School milk
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 13-Feb-2014
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Does any one remember going into school during the holidays in the
1950's to drink school milk. I recall going to North Road and for some
reason, one year, we all had to go to a Dormers Well secondary school to
get our free milk. It had to be drunk there and then. Weren't allowed
to take it home. Chris x
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2014
1960 dormers kept the milk in the
cupboard small room.corridor left side on way to hall if you queued
there...don't remember ever really having it much ,,,,had to go at
break...not bother really..warm etc..not gt
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2014
in the holidays..1950s...no dormers infants juniors .1954 onwards not go in holidays......
there was big push to nutrition after war 50s etc....
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 13-Feb-2014
Loved the free milk, but it
seemed inconsistent. Not too sure it tasted the same every day. I become
a milk monitor, or in other words Roger Hurt and myself were the
biggest in our class so had the job of collecting a crate and carrying
it back to the class.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Feb-2014
The bottle size was one third of a
pint. It was a size only available for school use, as half a pint was
the smallest size available from the ordinary milkman
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Feb-2014
I was out at work in the 50's,
but in the 30's and 40's the free milk was horrible in the summer as it
was left outside in crates in the playground and was almost sour. I
hated it and used to sneak it back into the empty crate of bottles if
the teacher wasn't looking. In the winter it was frozen and often used
to be coming out at the top of the bottle, but I liked that much better
as it began to thaw.
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 13-Feb-2014
I remember the milk being put
around the donkey boilers in the huts at North Road School during the
winters in the late 1940's to thaw it out, and it was revolting!It took
me many years to drink milk again after that.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Feb-2014
I remember school milk thawing out by the coke fires in the annex in North Road school.
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by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 14-Feb-2014
During the holidays I was sent to
Western Road school for the milk that was served in the entrance foyer.
Often warm and unpleasant. I also remember at that period being given a
tin of sultanas to take home. They had been donated by one of the
commonwealth countries (or was it still the empire then?) . Very
welcome at a time of short supply and rationing.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2014
gt tin lovely...perhaps to yr
1954..still rationing..they would be keen nutrition to do holidays
milk..1954 think all rationing ended...gt tv daily channel
19..rationing.wartime uk 2 war .Hampshire farm growing food...xmas
parsnip mock turkey and gifts etc evacuees etc.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Feb-2014
As did the Empire.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Feb-2014
As did the Empire.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Feb-2014
I think Empire Day changed to
"Commonwealth Day" in about 1954. Until then we had to march around
the playground (locked in) with the person in front of the procession
holding a large Union Jack. We were told EVERY school in the Empire
was doing exactly the same thing at the same time (11 a.m.), but somehow
I now doubt that arab kids in Aden etc actually were.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2014
yes queen coronation
1953..gradual independence countries and she Philip been so proud of
lifetime work they have done on commonwealth...gt museum nottinghill
gate went few times,, free.to it all modern good building countries
displays... closed some yrs ago but was greatly used by people schools
etc..loads huge flags tall outside.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Feb-2014
I remember getting half of a day off which was most welcome
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Feb-2014
I think you could be right about the arab kids in Aden ect, dad was in Aden at that time.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2014
my southall cousin joined bp.oil
tankers ships chief engineer .1950s .onwards career...his tankers then
supertankers ...suez or around Durban south Africa....aden...biggest
port...letters home he posted.aden.etc gifts for us..etc..aden was on tv
last night 50s 60s..channel 9 empire etc..Britain on
film..archive.bbc4..8.30 pm
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Feb-2014
I still have my Hornby train set made in Liverpool in 1953 dad bought me at Steamer Point store Aden.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2014
yes my cousin always spoke well of aden
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 14-Feb-2014
I remember playing Britannia in an Empire Day celebration at North Road School - would probably have been the late 1040's.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Feb-2014
marvellous phyl........sent email..then site came back at last..tonight...
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by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 16-Feb-2014
I have a lovely photograph of my
father as a young boy. He is dressed in a Union Jack suit and carrying a
Union jack. Presumably an empire day in the 1920s. I recall that
Empire Day and then Commonwealth days required me to go to school in my
cub scout uniform. I think that I thought that quite special. World maps
were of course covered in red coloured countries "which were all ours".
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2014
gt photo...yes third world pink empire.quarter world ish.
http://www.academickids.com/encyclopedia/index.php/British_Empire
our schools 1934 ..1900s built ....1960 still had lots old empire text
bks..not the money for new sets 30 more..books..but for yrs they tried
hard to get rid of old books.maps.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2014
they wanted it red for the maps
but found pink colour worked better to allow the lettering titles names
to show up on pink better..1977 onwards gt schools lots modern up to
date text books and school library gradually full of modern up to date
bks replacing inadequate bks
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Feb-2014
Every time I hear the hymn "I vow
to thee my country" I am immediately trasported back to the hall at
Tudor road school on Empire Day with our headmistress Miss Trent
standing in front of us. It is such a stirring hymn - Diana had it
plsyed at her wedding and her funeral. We also sang a lot of other songs
on Empire Day and I loved it all.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2014
yes it was at Diana s..daughter
in law kate went to.northolt high sch.open special art dept for all kids
borough ealing to go to...on valentine morning.her photo on front page
standard newspaper.wills 6 am with harry sandbags with army berks
areas..so kate told head boy his happy valentine and bouquet was 1st she
had and had said of the day..oz they go april..hambro pub hayes bridge
on there wall.photo on
board one..of kate wed and her gran lived 18 bankside.wedding reception
in hambro pub.1953....57 lived Clarence st gdad....diana visited
southall photos done....last night proms..gt tunes song country
patriot..etc... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Feb-2014
I knew Empire Day was held on
24th May, but didn't know it was Queen Victoria's birthday, although the
first Empire Day wasn't celebrated until 1902, a year after Queen
Victoria died in 1901.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2014
yes she died in Kaisers
arms.osborne.jan 1901.kaiser came to funeral.all did..new king
coronation was delayed his health..interesting.start empire day...lots
photos in google kids dressed up costumes at schools etc..Jerusalem gt
hymn.
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by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 16-Feb-2014
I live just in the next road to
the hornby factory though the readers might be interestedto know they
have museum and a children centre open daily, and of course a shop
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2014
nice photos exterior interia
Sheila in google....Ramsgate rd margate..warehouse quite bit stuff
coming in from china now..nice to have shop....they do online sales
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Feb-2014
photos 1st southall
board..tonight tv..wartime evacuation sept1939.channel 9 bbc 4
tv..7.30pm...ealing broadway train photos our board 50 new photos
general.local
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 17-Feb-2014
If I remember correctly free school milk was brought to an end by Mrs Thatcher-"Maggie Thatcher,milk snatcher!"
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Feb-2014
yes mike...just seen photos
plaque resting place denis sir bt...but .hers just says Margaret
thatcher ..but she was baroness hse lords.. lady..23/4 may order garter
queen st George Windsor...unless she chose plain name.insisted it be
like that...thought she had middle name like her sister...Chelsea
pensioners .place denis her arranged after death..by thames at Chelsea
of flower show.royal hospital..she arranged it all... ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 17-Feb-2014
Blimey, Chris only mentioned school milk.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Feb-2014
schools...lots different photos
kids ..with free milk drinking..with straws etc.40s.50s 60 s,,,on our
photo boards..frozen milk popping out of the top crates etc..
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 18-Feb-2014
Yvonne-mentioning straws reminds
me the cap on the bottle has a perforated circle, the idea being one
pushed this in, and then put the straw in. However, if you pushed too
hard, a fountain of milk shot up,with messy results!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Feb-2014
never saw straws my yrs.but had
to collect at break did not really go myself.to milk..when there were
card tops to milk..making pom poms with 2 card circles...silver tops
washed went to blue peter tv charity
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Feb-2014
When our milk was delivered with
foil tops the blue tits became past masters in pecking at the tops to
get the cream, and they passed this habit on to their chicks. The odd
robin used to have a peck sometimes, but it wssn't passed on to their
young as they didn't move about in flocks like the blue tits.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Feb-2014
on the patio at living room by
our chair robin comes speck cheese so like dairy fat element...but .ants
nest few yrs ..young come they love bit of ant..on the lawn mower
robin..they and blackbird love recent .turned earth or mow insects
worms..lots this last week now spring coming snowdrops crocus and daffs
buds now..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Feb-2014
back site 2 days off sent 3
emails...if recession and they cant keep advertisers to pay for
site...then to say to you all best wishes indeed.lots good wishes to you
all...if site goes for good...so often it is off..many many best wishes
to everybody.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Feb-2014
back site 2 days off sent 3
emails...if recession and they cant keep advertisers to pay for
site...then to say to you all best wishes indeed.lots good wishes to you
all...if site goes for good...so often it is off..many many best wishes
to everybody.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Feb-2014
It is looking that way Yvonne
& everyone if it goes thank you all for some brill
memories its a pity we cant go to another site but just in
case thanks & all the best to all.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Feb-2014
Hopefully, it won't go, but if it
does one of the worst things would be to lose all the information on
the past few years of the site. Valuable information as well as all the
lovely people who contribute.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Feb-2014
if anybody can print some of it
off..if it has a print at the top and would come out on sheets of paper
at your printer..you all take care denis Pauline everybody..over 11 yrs
site gt people..perhaps the knowhere will limp along...facebook took
over another site today...huge amount lots all ages 80 70 60yr old etc..
use it daily...their local area..memories of lifetime.of their
areas.friends they all
have there..all the things they did used.nostalgia loads chat
daily..facebook.admin closed sites beautifully monitored to nice .friend
people so much in common.of their areas yrs of their own....fantastic
of southall here since before yr 2000.wonderful people always in our
thoughts..so much part of the old town we all knew..probably knowhere
will keep on ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Feb-2014
I do hope your right it will keep going fingers crossed.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 20-Feb-2014
Yes it's sad but there is no paid
advertising any more on any of the knowhere boards, and what is worse
still, none of the other locations are getting any new postings since
about 2011. I fear it maybe goodbye soon, though I hope not
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Feb-2014
site does do down off often
now.think it is because advertising ...sites on line... are huge at
facebook etc....sincere best wishes to you all..such lovely posts
comments over 11 yrs here site..hope not but if...then kindest thoughts
with you all always..so many local areas..things..we all know..nostalgia
etc..take real good care of yourselves if ..but ..perhaps not.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Feb-2014
I hope with this depressing news that we will be told beforehand, and not just shut down completely.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Feb-2014
perhaps it
wont..friends reunited got less but still there....doubt they would tell
us in advance might do....lots nice photos southallboard.happy spring
weather everybody it is so nice
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by Linda (Member 10291388) on 22-Feb-2014
Where do you guys live now, I am in ascot xx
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by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 22-Feb-2014
If Knowhere website goes belly-up then old messages can still be accessed via the Internet Archive Wayback Machine:
https://archive.org/web/
Enter the follwoing in the search box and click browse history:
http://www.knowhere.co.uk/Southall/Middlesex/London-and-inside-M25/messages
A selection of dates on which snapshots of the site were taken, they
appear by year the relevant dates are highlighted in blue click on the
date and the sanapshot for the day will appear.
Just out of interest I did a quick approximation of how many pages of A4
would be needed to print off all the messages and it would be somewhere
around 30,000.
... more >>
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Southall board 55
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Feb-2014
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Just looked at this and was amazed to see a map of the area before the
enclosures, although the canal is on it. It shows a small village
called "SCRATTAGE" between Lampton and Trumpers Way on the old drove
road, and another called "Sutton" between Lampton and Heston. I didn't
know about these before, there are some wonderful photos there too.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Feb-2014
Keith - Have you given the correct Southallboard number as it only goes up to 54.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Feb-2014
How odd! 55 came up when l put Southall board in google.
But there are photos of the SERVIS shop, and it says
220
Photos
November 2009
in the top right corner. I cannot see a number on this board
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2014
board21 has got the servis
shop..pub...and further back.scroll back photos there has got enclosure
map scrattage trumpers Sutton by Heston,
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2014
1814 map so canal on it....my
nans brother married girl of terraced workers cottages Sutton..1874
family there smoky lane down from Heston church called because big brick
kiln there handmade brick workers Sutton..by gt west rd now...scrattage
south of Osterley pk...map is from british history on line site..in
google...Heston northhyde..norwood green across to trumpers...all places
town s ..they have got 1800s enclosure maps 1813/4.. hayes Hillingdon etc..hanwell... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Feb-2014
I think Keith has got through to Southallboard (the first one) as that shows 220 photos. Southallboard 21 only shows 214.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2014
the 1st board ...southallboard
..is called...2009 220 photos ..got servis shop......and towards end got
enclosure map 1813/9..heston scrattage Sutton trumpers....Pauline keith
has enjoyed photos of our 1st board ..in 2009..done...4 yrs ago...in
google it comes up easy..flickr.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Feb-2014
Yes, that's it
Thank you
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Feb-2014
Yes Yvonne I know. That's what I
said. If you haven't already got the Southallboards when they were first
done, whatever number Southallboard you tap in on google will only give
you the first Southallboard.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
Ruislip lido ...in
google...yesterday unexplod bomb 12 inch .half buried
3pm...evacuate...dealt with..5 pm reopened...war craters had been
about.known.of...star gaze group 850 people do regular watch binocular
etc group there..300ft reservoir medieval oak woods..bus still waits
outside..bbc tv.bank holiday on national news hot crowds there..Egyptian
geese swans tufted ..crest..grebe etc etc cormorants.heron..fishing huge over ft long gt fish caught..gulls flocks birds.etc.beach..café restaurant pub car pks
light rail ..and steam train ... more >>
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 4-Feb-2014
It's a shame there is not a facility to add photos onto this page. Don't know why but I don't find Flickr very user friendly.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
1st board comes up easy in
google....click sign in.....click ID....type southallboard.....click
password .type .Middlesex ......then click upload it goes to your own
scan in ..folder...then insert..upload...we have had 6 nice member
people put photos on during our 4 yrs photos...unlimited number allowed
now.....let us know carol...or if you put on your own flickr .I can
transfer them across to southallboard...let us know..appreciated..xx ... more >>
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 4-Feb-2014
Keith mentioned the hamlet of
Scrattage and it rang a bell with me, so I dug into my family history
papers (no mean feat as we've just moved and nothing is where it should
be!). A great-aunt, one of my Johnson grandfather's sisters, married a
chap by the name of Attwood and the 1891 Census lists them living at
No.2 Scrattage Cottage, Heston Spring Grove, Middx. The 1901 Census
lists them at 4 Jersey
Cottages, Scrattage Farm, Heston St Mary's, Middx. (No luck with finding
them in 1911 so far). It would be interesting to find exactly where
these places once were, if possible.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
yes scratttage came down under springgrove ..area...just south of Osterley..maps in google..old days
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
in google can see st mary parish
springgrove heston...near gt west rd..Osterley area...Isleworth Heston
huge area ..joined...st leonards parish Heston village
church...springrove famous for .good grammar school going back early yrs
..then new school buildings built along at lampton rd by pk..hubby went
there....banks of captain cook..botany lived posh springgrove...buried
Heston st leonards church.....my family of that church 1850 onwards..and Sutton..of Heston..workers cottages..1800s yrs Victorian.labourers.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
earl jersey of Osterley mansion
hse..so often ..people who owned the rows of cottages tythe went with
labouring job for .cottages owner...or they payed rent,to the landord
.the employer of the local job there.the owner of local work Sutton
large brickfield..6/8 cottages brickmakers 1870 1880s...so the cottages
names after him..his surname.on censuses..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
1894 maps google £2.50....Heston Osterley scrattage Hounslow.springrove..os map.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
http://www.my-history.co.uk/acatalog/Ealing_Acton_Area.html#1!MDX20.07...maps all areas Victorian.1894 etc..yrs
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
Osterley st mary scrattage 1894
map in google £2.50..os fold up..good
detail.....http://www.my-history.co.uk/acatalog/Ealing_Acton_Area.html#1!MDX20.03
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
in google Isleworth Heston.....scrattage farm etc etc etc...http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/walk/goa57/old/hist/
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Feb-2014
Just been looking at
Southallboard 15 pic of old TA center Hayes bridge the
caption mentions the Wellington bomber there in the 1950 i
knew i was not going funny in the head.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
in google old map scrattage
hamlet..st mary..along south part down of Osterley pk grounds..gt west
rd new carved it up springrove .lays there..Isleworth Heston parish
combined.....os map blocks of dwellings
there..http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/maps/?layer=europe&xMin=3307548.55111&yMin=2791382.21144&xMax=3310348.55111&yMax=2794182.21144
.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
glad you like denis...parachute was ..the thing of ta .at one time...wellington bomber
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by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 4-Feb-2014
I to remember the Bomber at the
TA unit at Hayes Bridge, I was in the Army Cadets that where based there
around 1949/50, I do not know if I remember correctly, but I thought it
was just a Fuselage.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
gt denis.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
dennis...denis......wellington
bomber or wimpey as it was
known........http://www.cranstonfinearts.com/squadron_details.php?SquadronID=537
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Feb-2014
Thanks Yvonne will have a
look, Thank Dennis i was starting to think i was the only
person on the planet that remembered it LOL, i seem to
remember a full Wellington on the parade ground but you will
recall better than me as i was 6 or 7 yrs old at the time
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
in google...alf attwood...of st
john rd Isleworth 1904 /1912...national archive......scrattage
springrove is Isleworth extended Heston as the parish..yrs ago....
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2014
lot on..attwood.......and those
yrs...local....and on scrattage farm..and cottages...on lots links..in
google......http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=248526.0
1891 free census has springgrove .st john rd Isleworth..to .tickenham rd
there along to .railway tavern.along to .water worker attwood...several
brothers the father......earl jersey estate huge grounds landed gentry
100s yrs...Osterley pk
west side was my nans brothers working Heston farm,of jersey and
lobjoit.....SO NEAR MY FAMILY YOUR AMILY WORKING LIVING.mine ended there
at 1960 farm closed houses built there.I lived in one
1966........walking around..south side of land by Osterley tube
station..yours...at scrattage ..hamlet of earl jersey ..farm..edge with
springgrove Isleworth..several attwood...census yrs.....your work at
seeing census address.if you see image pages there of censusman
walking..you see where scrattage farm hamlet cottage address is...pages
on line show you each dwelling he walked...so you have map of
area.....great deal in google..on yours to see ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Feb-2014
Just been looking at
flicker Southallboard, 2 pics of Black Dog pub & parade of
shops King Street i am certain the shop next to the black
Dog is the antique shop i mentioned before the parade was
knocked down for King street Woolworths about 1949/50.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Feb-2014
yes shops by black dog became
woolworths king st.....now black dog.demolished..is a.new brick high
construction.dont know what for yet...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Feb-2014
united dairy opposite black dog
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Feb-2014
bbc4 channel 9 freeview last
night harrow..ten pin bowling..and ealing broadway cinema forum
abc.uxbridge rd....London on film archive.suburbs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01kf64g/London_on_Film_The_Suburbs/
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Feb-2014
in photos....in.comments
below.....click links..and up comes.more stuff...pneumatic money wiz
celing to cashier stores...and willians store tokens etc..there
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by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 7-Feb-2014
My family were friendly with the
couple that were running the black dog and I went to help out there when
I was saving up to get married , I was taught how to pull a good plnt ,
I have done bar work on the odd times when cash has been shortthe
sister of the couple ran the lord byronat the top oflady magaret rd
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Feb-2014
yes Byron...there Ruislip rd many
yrs....but fire ..demolished.the Byron big pub.......hare hounds by
Greenford grammar still open....allenby pub now heating shop
- Re: Southall board 55
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 7-Feb-2014
My father's golfing mate Bert
(Lofty) Chapman ran The Lord Wolsley for many years and we would often
have a family do there. Sadly he gave it up after there was a murder
there and he just didn't want to be involved any more.
- Re: Southall board 55
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2014
yes lord wolsey gone..were so many pubs southall and everywhere else..many gone.
- Re: Southall board 55
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2014
southall and local...and
solicitor has papers on 3 horseshoes at
moment.......http://pubshistory.com/Middlesex/Hayes/index.shtml
- Re: Southall board 55
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2014
Ruislip lido 1961 tv
now.location..film cliff young ones.made elstree .shots London..big puff
huge net petticoats full skirts dance music song
comedy.freeview10.itv3.
- Re: Southall board 55
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 9-Feb-2014
Yes Yvonne, my friend Colin
Turner's father was one of the cameramen on The Young Ones shot at
Ruislip Lido and Colin followed in the his footsteps & became a
professional photographer.
- Re: Southall board 55
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Feb-2014
marvellous the film was gt
yesterday..repeated today..gt camera work.1961...in london
Marylebone.sunny day lido..pedlows 6 old pence quarter hr..speed
boat..ski..ramp...white yachting.beach beech trees.singing young
ones.....we lived Heston ..bbc tv cameraman lived opposite us..I went to
bbc on tube daily..worked tv centre white city.gt built circle
architecture 1960..demolish .this yr..gone to Salford
new studios..but hubby myself went to see new bbc offices etc along
there at xmas lovely area on old white city dog stadium..had all cliff
records and LPs.etc..4 pm radio 60s top 20..weekly
... more >>
- Re: Southall board 55
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Feb-2014
so much rain weeks..Ruislip lido
300 ft reservoir flooded over lawns up to cafe now pub...lots swans
ducks.canada geese gulls..tables out in water etc....
- Re: Southall board 55
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Feb-2014
photos and special extra ones in
..1st board.....in google...southallboard..........today more...500 more
viewings..loads flickr people last 4 yrs enjoy photos ..1000s click
viewings...
- Re: Southall board 55
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Feb-2014
southall horse mkt tv
tonight..Steptoe rides again 1973 film...and white city dog stadium
there during day and at night lite..10pm.tv
- Re: Southall board 55
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Feb-2014
carol 59 of southall born
1955....mum dot married holy trinity southall 1953...so st lucia photos
George kate brother james etc...747 plane..lovely sun hat gt grown
George...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-takes-prince-george-3130030
- Re: Southall board 55
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Feb-2014
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/s/southall/index.shtml
gt photos text general southal.....station...trumpers...etc etc yr1900 yr 1990...
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North Road
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 1-Feb-2014
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I lived at No.74 from 1933-1954. I often wonder what became of the boys are knew in those years:
72- Leonard Fuller, 76 Richard Pannel-his parents sent him to a series
of private schools, then going further up the road Freddie Miller,
Reggie Wiggins, Raymond Kitt, Kenneth Loader,
Barry Seaward.
Do any of these ring a bell with any of you??
- Re: North Road
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 1-Feb-2014
Ken Loader was a good friend of
my brother George. Unfortunately George lost contact with Ken after
they did their National Service in the mid 50's. Ken and George were
also friendly with a David Pounding ( not sure of the spelling) who
sadly got killed, hit by a train, along with another whilst crossing
the railway line not far from Community a Centre Bridge Road. I was
only young when this happened but remember how shocked everyone was. Chris x ... more >>
- Re: North Road
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 1-Feb-2014
I remember Ken Loader. He was a
good friend of my brother George. Unfortunately George lost contact
with Ken after they finished National Service in the early 50's. They
also were friendly with DAVID POUNDING (not sure of spelling). Sadly
David was killed, hit by a train, whilst with another crossing the
railway line not far from community centre in Bridge Road. I clearly
remember how shocked everyone was. This was early 50's. George would have been with them had he not been doing his national service! Chris x ... more >>
- Re: North Road
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 1-Feb-2014
Sorry for two replies...first got lost THEN APPEARED,
- Re: North Road
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 1-Feb-2014
I did National Service
1945-1948, then was a full time student living at home,but in 1951 moved
to my first job in Welwyn Garden City,coming home week-ends. In 1954
dad retired and mum and dad moved away from Southall.
- Re: North Road
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 2-Feb-2014
People I remember from north road
, approaching from the police station end , these people lived there
from the 40s till the late 50s and may be longer they were freddie
lovelock joyce kimmins sheila rose teddy humphreys does any one rember
norma coxs they livred in park view but the back of there houses came
out at tne side of petries myself joyce and norma all used to walk to
school together via kingsley ave to dormers wells ... more >>
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
Sheila I walked all weathers
school dormers wells primary through 3 big alleys kingsley.50s..ran
through bit scary high fence....Sheila ...do you know pre 1956...servis
shop.....by George dragon pub..photo 3 shops there.what were they ..what
did servis sell was it ..machine parts etc..north uxbridge rd high
st..thanks..
- Re: North Road
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Feb-2014
Wasent Servis makers of washing machines.
- Re: North Road
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Feb-2014
Yes Denis it was. I bought my first Servis washing machine in 1956 and it was an excellent machine. Bought it in Slough.
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
yes we had servis machine 1956 photo southall...says servis.at the top..of shop by George dragon pub
- Re: North Road
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 2-Feb-2014
Husband says it was SERVIS HOME ELECTRICS. There were other shops along there. Chris x
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
wonderful thanks servis elect
.and for wash machine etc..gt electrics..window look like that ..thanks
hubby......gt cars parked outside 1956 rare allard....morris
van..Armstrong siddely ..Austin a40..and pub.george dragon to left
west..3 shops old..1956 photo
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
can see tiny words in photo..yes
home electrics...large letter servis.windows full..1956..perhaps they
did radio etc also....thanks......2 other old shops there with it..close
right side east of George dragon pub...
- Re: North Road
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 2-Feb-2014
My friend Sheila Iddenden has a
much better memory than me and will probably remember the shops by the
George and Dragon. I can only think of a sweetshop, a cobblers (Dovers)
and a dairy (Etheringtons) between School Passage and the G&D pub. I
used to go ballroom dancing in the pub hall in the 50's. There was also
a hardware shop somewhere along there.
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
gt phyl thanks..best wishes to you both
- Re: North Road
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Feb-2014
Phyl-I seem to remember a small cafe before the Etherington's dairy
- Re: North Road
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 3-Feb-2014
I do nt recall a cafe in that
group of shops ethe dairy was right on the corner, it sold more that
just milk.. yes phyl my memory is fairly goodcconsidering I left
southall over 50 yrs ago but I really liked southall and I was happy
living there it was only when I married that I left but I always thought
I would return but when my parents were re housed that changed things
- Re: North Road
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 3-Feb-2014
Sheila is right in saying
Etherington's dairy was on the corner, next to School Passage, where we
walked down every day to get to the High St from Shrubbery Road. I don't
recall a cafe there.
Sheila, was Spicers Funeral Directors at the other end of that block of shops?
- Re: North Road
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Feb-2014
I didn't know the sequence of the
shops along that stretch as it was not my neck of the woods. I do
remember that Spicers the Funeral Directors was after the White Hart
along there somewhere as I had to arrange my dad's funeral there.
- Re: North Road
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Feb-2014
Sheila/Phyl-i used that cafe
1948-1951. I was a full time student, and in the holidays mum and dad
were working, and I would sometimes have lubch there.
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
mike tried to get your café in
google 1951.....only florist came .up..1951 23 march..florist 32 high
st southall 1951.......mrs annie eliz allen...post office directory
library would have 1951....1914 free online in google only 1914.southall
ealing hanwell west ealing.
- Re: North Road
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Feb-2014
Yvonne-the only thing i can thnk
of is that the cafe was part of the Etherington's shop-unless my memory
has been playing tricks!
- Re: North Road
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 4-Feb-2014
Yes spicers was at the end when
we were young just before I got married 1957 they moved to the other
side of the white heartalmost next door to quinnons .thinking back I
think when the shoe mender closed I have a feeling that or the sweet
shop changed to a cafe phyl do you remember mr and mrs tucker that had
the pram shop had the cho cho dog that we were all scared of because he
had a black tougue really he was a lovely gentle dog. ... more >>
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
that's nice mike...they said dairy sold lots thing .etc...florist along 1951 2 spinster ladies.number 32
- Re: North Road
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 4-Feb-2014
That should have read chow chow
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2014
my family used spicer all
yrs...funerals of ours 1936..1948..1947.2 yrs old
meningtus.....1961,,,and was 1944...etc ones..Havelock.
- Re: North Road
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 4-Feb-2014
I think most people had spicers
do family fu eralsthey were avery nice family my dad used to help them
at times and I was very friendly with june .
- Re: North Road
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 4-Feb-2014
Yes Sheila, I do remember the
Tuckers and their big black dog. Do you remember that June Spicer used
to take us down to the shed at the bottom of their garden where all the
coffins were stored, and frighten the life out of us telling us there
were dead bodies in them. Their premises did move to the other side of
the White Hart, next to Quinions. We used them for all our family
funerals too. The name is still going strong, but the premises are now in South Road and seem to deal mainly with Asian funerals. ... more >>
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2014
yes many yrs south rd..there is photo of it...east side..white corner place there..letters spicer there above.
- Re: North Road
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 5-Feb-2014
Phyl I do remember that shed it
had a smell which ican still smell if I think about it , we thought it
was the bodies but really it was the greenery they used in the wreaths ,
l was asked to sleep there with june one night she told me that they
were busy and the bodies were under the counter in the shop iwas so
scared in the end I went home was nt asked again.
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2014
Pauline mike..all.......high
st..yrs ago in mr meads book here top of page along to white hart
pub...school passage...etherington milk dairy.....café coffee
etc..along.etc..lots shops here high st southall..north side etc...
http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/growingup/page5.html
- Re: North Road
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Feb-2014
Sheila and Phyl - I did have a
good laugh at the pranks that your friend June Spicer used to play on
you both. Just as well she had a sense of humour as it can't be the most
cheerful of professions.
- Re: North Road
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Feb-2014
Good to read R.J.Meads "Growing
Up With Southall From 1904" again on the high street shops. It also
mentions about child burials on the following page.
Makes you want to read his book all over again.
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Feb-2014
yes page 5 shops...page 6 child deaths infections etc..walking funeral...1912 and shelaby..lots to read.
http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/growingup/page6.html
- Re: North Road
by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 8-Feb-2014
Does anybody remember a George Pudney who I believe went to North Road School in the Early 1940`s
- Re: North Road
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 8-Feb-2014
I do......he's my Big brother.
He is happy and well, soon to celebrate his 80 th birthday. How do
you know him Dennis? Where did you live? Chris xx
- Re: North Road
by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 8-Feb-2014
HI Chris;
I went to North Road School that is where I met George, I believe he
lived in North Rd, I lived in Burns Avenue, I was talking to an Old
School Pal from Masefield Ave, called Rod Russell and we where
reminiscing about our Time at North Road in the 1940`s and he mentioned
George Pudney, and that stirred my memory. Rod told me that he thought
Georges G/Father was the Blacksmith. I am 80 in March, and Married 60 years in June. Where has it all gone.
DEN ... more >>
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2014
happy 80th dennis...and George..and best wishes Masefield ave friend...
- Re: North Road
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 8-Feb-2014
Hello Dennis. Grand Dad was shoe
repairer had shop at 45 North Road, near the green and the Plough Pub.
Our parents closed the shop in 1973. My mum passed away 2012 aged 98
years. They ran the shop from 1933 when it was newly built. There was a
blacksmith in North Road, just by Amsdem & Pope newspaper/sweet
shop. Those were the days. I will ask George if he remembers you both.
Chris x
- Re: North Road
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 9-Feb-2014
Dennis..I have been in touch with
George and he remembers you too. He says. "Do you recall 'sneaking off
school' and going home with him and making thick toast & butter".
Strange thing to remember! Also, he says you may have thought grandad
had been a blacksmith because of his disfigured face which had been
caused by being kicked by a horse. Chris x
- Re: North Road
by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 10-Feb-2014
HI Chris; Georges Tea&Toast
has stirred another very Happy Memory, It is strange that now at nearly
80 years old I can remember things from long ago, but can`t remember
What I had for Breakfast Yesterday, where is George living now, I am for
my Sins in Milton Keynes. Give George my Very best for his coming 80th.
DEN
- Re: North Road
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 10-Feb-2014
I will pass your message on.
George has had a wonderful life, lived and worked all over the world.
Now in Thorpe Bay. Chris x
- Re: North Road
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 10-Feb-2014
Hi Chris. I believe it was your
brother George and his wife (can't recall her name) that I knew when I
was about 17/18. If I'm thinking of the right brother a few of us used
to visit them, I think usually on a Saturday afternoon, at a flat they
had in one of the roads off Southall Broadway. Can't remember how we met
them but they were a lovely couple. I'm hitting 75 in the near future,
but think your brother
was a few years older. My name then was Phyl Scarbrow, and some of the
others were my cousin Pat Scarbrow, and friends Marina Shoulder and
Marianne Goldsmith. Sadly neither Pat nor Marina are still with us but I
was in touch with Marianne a few years back. ... more >>
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Feb-2014
happy 75th near future .phyl..many happy returns of the day.xx
- Re: North Road
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 11-Feb-2014
Yes Phyl ..George &June lived
in Oswald Road. They went to America in 1957 and never looked back.
George was very successful in his career moves. They travelled the
world. They have been blessed with a wonderful life. June is as
beautiful as ever, still looks like a fashion model. They still play
golf every week too! Both happy and well. Chris x
- Re: North Road
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 11-Feb-2014
Phyl I wassorry to hear that pat scarbrow is no longer with us I think she was about my age .
- Re: North Road
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Feb-2014
Doris Scarbrow was at North Road School with me -1934-1940
- Re: North Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Feb-2014
sally scarbrow in the southall pk
photo 1959/60 yrs.ages 11/12 ish..roughly..group girls.photo..dormers
girls...had mrs foot English teacher..pk group.sheila aspel.janet
Roberts off north rd lived..sally north ave..
- Re: North Road
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 11-Feb-2014
Chris, so glad to hear that
George and June (yes, I remember her name now and she was always very
glamorous)are well and prosperous.
Sheila, my cousin Pat died many years ago.
Doris was one of her sisters. They were all the children of my Uncle
Charlie (my Dad's brother)and Aunt Sarah and they did live in North
Avenue.
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Bluebell wood
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 29-Jan-2014
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Nearly time for bluebells. I vaguely remember cycling to a bluebell
wood along Windmill Lane or thereabouts not too sure of the location.
Anyone else remember going there? Can you recall exactly where it might
have been? Must have been almost 60 years ago. Chris x
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2014
windmill lane..south of the 3
bridges...on the right west side..field north areas of old Osterley
estate..goes towards roman bridge over stream tributary of brent
river..architect arch Robert adam.open nature areas.wood be
bluebells......jazz etc sport venue hut...tentlow lane running down to
norwood green.....east side windmill lane..warren farm lands to
trumpers.canal river brent...now all sports grounds..
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2014
yes left east side after 3
bridges..south...off to left east side footpath warren field to trumpers
goes off area of river brent canal...off left..east..YES blue bell wood
..cycle people several remember 50s etc yrs...nice hedgerows nature
along there left..east today now..keep going down windmill lane south
and brunei villa...hare hounds pub..back entry Osterley hse horss lakes
fishing.then on to gillettes and syon hse pk. ... more >>
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2014
scroll link.half way down...left
east side windmill lane..well known..long wood blue bells...and trumpers
footpath crossing area blue bells.going towards hanwell locks.......off
wyke green area of Osterley grounds now owned by national trust....but
the huge massive m4 motorway..huge motorway bridge goes across windmill
lane now...still some natural dense hedgerows to the left east...but new
m4 .carved into
area....and the east area along..been huge warren sports grounds long
time..ealing council.extending it now huge sports.. ... more >>
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2014
http://edithsstreets.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/river-brent-wyke-green.html
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Jan-2014
I can remember going with my
family to a Bluebell wood and picking masses of bluebells, most of which
were all drooping by the time we got home. I'm sure my mum wasn't with
us as we picked the bluebells to give to her. I know it was a very long
walk from the entrance until we reached the woods, but I can't remember
going down Windmill Lane, but it must be well over seventy years ago.
Would there have been another way there? ... more >>
- Re: Bluebell wood
by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 29-Jan-2014
I seem to remember there was a Prisoner of War Camp somewhere around Bluebell woods during the 2ndWW.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2014
famous bluebell woods ..many most
went to was cranford house park grounds woods...fair way in from
entrance huge ..long ..grounds...all long west south going..from
junction pub bridge western rd ..down south .southall lane...on west
right side cranford bluebells..the famous splash area there ford in
yeading brook join rename river crane........also Ruislip lido woods oak
and bluebells..
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Jan-2014
No, it definitely wasn't Cranford Woods. I'm sure we got on a bus after leaving the long walk after the Bluebell Woods.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2014
ah good....bus brings you home from ..Ruislip woods...medieval oak..blue bells..names like mad bess wood etc...
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2014
burnham beeches bluebells..
http://www.plantlife.org.uk/wild_plants/important_plant_areas/burnham_beeches
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Jan-2014
No it wasn't Ruislip Woods Yvonne. As it seems as if Osterley was the nearest to us in Southall it must have been that.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2014
yes Osterley..late spring.south west woods blue bells..
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2014
lovely to see called huge stands
bluebells.at.Middlesex finest remaining wood..old pk wood
harefield..behind hospital as it runs down south to the canal summerhse
lane..nature reserve many yrs..
http://edithsstreets.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/londonhertfordshire-border-harefield_31.html
- Re: Bluebell wood
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Jan-2014
The only bluebells you will find in Burnham Beeches these days are concrete ones.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 29-Jan-2014
Pauline the way I remember going
to the woods was thru southall park under the railway, AEC on the
left.Across a foot bridge where the line into the AEC went, then a
bridge across the Brentford line.At the end of this road was a small
humpback bridge where the road led to the woods.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Jan-2014
Thanks Ron. Perhaps my dad being
an AEC man would have known that way. What a lot of years ago that all
was. Lovely days in Southall! I bet you're not getting all this rain
we're having?
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 29-Jan-2014
Hi everyone. I'm pretty sure
Bluebell Woods were reached from Tentelow Lane, just before you get to
Windmill Lane, and was what is now Osterley Sports Club. We were there
last year for our grandson's footie club final (they won!).
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 29-Jan-2014
Radio 4 today (29 Jan) at 6.30pm
Mark Steel's in Town programme was from Southall. It will be available
on BBC inlayer for a week. I found it interesting as well as funny.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 29-Jan-2014
I meant BBC iPlayer of course.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 29-Jan-2014
I think it WAS VIA TENTLOW LANE
that I cycled to bluebell wood all those years ago. Thanks! I can
still see the bluebells in my minds eye. Chris x
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jan-2014
well done footie phyl...gt off windmill lane chris
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jan-2014
6.30//30mins..the comedian visits
southall celebrating what makes the place its people so
distingtive......mark steel In town.wednesday
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jan-2014
leisure area today...from glade
lane..across canal to tentlow lane..sports centre area.on south
side..then behind by .is tentlow wood today.and meadow.....roman
bridge.by architect Robert adam.so.north back side of Osterley
estate.bluebells...to the west norwood green to the east 3 bridges and
windmill lane..
http://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/200102/walking/964/historical_walking_guides/5
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Jan-2014
Phyl - Can you remember if there
were large gates at the entrance to the Bluebell Woods before the long
wide walk till you actually got to the bluebells? I can remember it was
so hot walking.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jan-2014
if it helps...large tall black
iron gates into Osterley..extensive grounds ..so to get to the woods far
over is a fair walk...jersey rd gates entry high brick
wall..Osterley...120 bus..walk.east to the gates....national trust since
1950s..free entry grounds..preserved ..heritage nature trees etc...by
gt NT
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Jan-2014
Yes Yvonne, they were tall black
gates at the entrance. Maybe we did get on a 120 bus in Southall but
where would we have got off? I wish I could remember all of it, but I
can't.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jan-2014
Heston rd..going towards
Hounslow...before you get to gt west rd....bus stop 120 by jersey
rd..left east walk.along jersey rd.to gates ..left north side high wall
estate...tall black iron gates.left...in street view......if you get off
120 Heston church...I lived behind...stroll field footpath..through
Osterley field and in side way of estate.....left .west side...woods
preserved by NT...fair stroll up into woods...
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Jan-2014
Thanks Yvonne. I still can't remember the route. Put it down to old age!
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jan-2014
ok..nice anyway bluebells are..show my street the 2012 street view is nice
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 30-Jan-2014
Sorry Pauline, I can't remember
tall black gates, but perhaps you did get into bluebell woods via
Osterley Park. No gates that I can remember, and certainly none now via
Tentelow Lane Sports Club. But the old memory plays tricks, as I suspect
it does for most of us nowadays!
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jan-2014
yes phyl.vaguely know tentlow
lane..lovely heritage there .preservation that they keep..that
long..south side right..greenery ..open...as you approach the many yrs
old area of sports centre Osterley..just usual open entrance of such
..only open..for all the fields open areas ..south...so the north
of.Osterley estate..spreading across..now owned by borough ealing.open
spaces...
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Jan-2014
I think perhaps you're right
Phyl. I am certain about the gates and the long walk down to the
bluebell woods, but just can't remember how we got there or back. I
asked my sister if she remembers and she can only remember the
bluebells, and she's younger than me.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2014
amazing photos...in
google..bluebell woods Osterley park grounds...is long walk down from
high black gates then off through woods.preserved by national trust who
have owned it all since the war.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=image+bluebell+woods+osterley+park&form=CMNTDF&pc=CMNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Jan-2014
Thank you Yvonne. Beautiful photos of Osterley Bluebell Woods.
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 31-Jan-2014
As a 15/16 year old Me and My pal
would cycle to our Saturday Job at Hilliers Bakery In Osterley from
Southall. We would go down the lane from Norwood Green which is now
bisected by the M4, to the rear gates of Osterley House and cycle
through the grounds to the main gates. It was a pleasant trip at 6am
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2014
yes we have often gone back entry
...the lane from norwood green....walk long path down to mansion
hse..lakes..back entry little farm lodge hse..fence entry
there.footpath...and ALSO the side entry from windmill lane hare hounds
pub..horses brown rabbits and home guard high concrete fire range
wall..there.to back lakes fishing.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2014
yes noisy m4 goes across bridle
path..old fields there..back of Osterley...the watercourse stream earl
jersey had taken off river brent.goes across..Robert adam built grade 2
listed roman bridge there arch..comes under borough ealing...border of
Hounslow...so south of tentlow lane..street view shows the public
footpath style.in the long row hedges....preserved ....into the
area..glade lane southall..off to the north.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2014
Cyril hilliers bakery Osterley in frith memories in google...
http://www.francisfrith.com/osterley/#utmcsr=bing.com&utmcmd=referral&utmccn=bing.com
gapps store ..butchers..double front chemist..hilliers...by memory of clive warneford...swt sho newsagent,near
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2014
2 photos of the Osterley parade
shops..thornbury rd..1955..on the frances frith site Osterley .in
google.....gapps store on the end...think it says along united dairy..
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 31-Jan-2014
With all the Osterly talk is the
lake still there, this was free fishing providing you sent off to the
then ministry of Parks for a permit. During the school holidays you had
trouble finding a swim.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2014
yes huge long areas lake permit
fishing national trust own whole area...lots good photos all in
google..free films..in google to..of whole areas there
- Re: Bluebell wood
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Jan-2014
There also used to be 2
fishponds in front of the house the lawns show where by the
shades of grass even today.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 31-Jan-2014
From my recollections the 2 ponds
close to the house were no fishing areas. The free fishing area was a
large lake far to the right of the house.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2014
yes the large long .over the side
back..lake still there.........roundish pond by south side house ducks
swans...lots photos in google.....in front of house was once round pond
but filled in lots extensive grass picnics.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2014
as you say in front of the house
but far over the back..across grass from the front of the house runs
long length lake..long and curves round.....but yrs ago..by the entrance
front of house was ornamental round pond.in front of the entrance hse
steps but filled in grassed over..
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 31-Jan-2014
The contributions on Osterley
park reminds me that I went fishing with my dad in one of the ponds-we
didn't catch anything. I can't remember how we got there.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 1-Feb-2014
We used to enter at the bottom of
the lane and walk through the woods which had a footpath. Fishing was
never easy, mainly due to the amount of people fishing. But if you knew
what you were doing you should catch something there. It had a good head
of bream when I fished it. But again you needed to cast a long way out.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 1-Feb-2014
By the house I remember playing
with friends in the Adams orangery. We would push the priceless windows
up and down. Also in an outbuilding there was a very old fire engine. It
was all owned by the National Trust but everything was far less formal
and less regulated then. In the Summer, the seats along the walks from
the house were a favourite haunt of mine after school to sit and do
homework. I also
remember catching a greater crested newt by the lake and taking it home.
Sadly it escaped and probably perished in someones else's back garden.
Before the M4, the route from Norwood Green across the fields was
idyllic. My father was a member of the home guard and trained in the
park. Fond memories. ... more >>
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 1-Feb-2014
Thanks for the link to Hilliers of Osterley. This links is where a kid from Southall now lives
http://www.francisfrith.com/bonchurch/photos/the-grange-private-hotel-c1950_b139068/
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2014
ok Thompson..good site
frith....yes NT..lots staff now...orangery and private gardens ..off
there..paying kiosk..path to walk through there now entry payment
private lovely gdns orangery went yr ago...generalgrounds ...big side
pond big long back lake grounds free entry..back entry yes...denis and
bill..theirs of home guard there..high curve concrete fire range listed
heritage still there..home guard
costume events most yrs..borough Hounslow .Osterley..wedding Osterley
hse car arrives venue photos..entry hse gt loads there .adam...roman
bridge by adam.listed ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2014
your link......bonchurch isle wight 1955 ..frith...eastdene hse ..nice...the lounge.photo.1955....the grange ..1955..nice..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2014
mayor southall 57/8 yrs
and.yrs.Johnson haigh..his wife daughter retired to isle wight daughter
still very contributing there..dee.she is in google active support there
items.at isle wight
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Feb-2014
Yvonne there are some pictures of the Home Guard shooting butts at Osterley on my Flicker site.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Feb-2014
Denis - I've just had a look at
the target butts on your d.sexton428 photostream at Osterley Park and it
rang a bell when I saw that Osterley House. I think there was a
building like that on the right hand side as we walked towards the
bluebell woods.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Feb-2014
Glad to be of help Pauline.
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by sandy (Member 10081984) on 1-Feb-2014
Is this D Sexton of the 51st Cosford??
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Feb-2014
Could i ask what the 51st Cosford is plese.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Feb-2014
Hi Sandy thanks for asking but have never been in the RAF.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
thanks denis yes gt photos..we
took some as well about 5yrs ago...far east corner Osterley pk
grounds..over towards windmill lane side little fence entry horses..hare
hounds pub..east back of fishing lakes..the butts high concrete..
- Re: Bluebell wood
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Feb-2014
Yes dad must have done target practise at them.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
yes council has listed butts heritage not to be demolished
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
1956....photo...George dragon
pub..33 high st north side uxbridge rd...along from town
hall..1956...right of it east....servis shop..3 1956 shops there...in
photo.pub closed long time ago....seats inside fireplace unique
gone..old feature it had.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
phyl.......got 1956 photo high st
southall..by George dragon pub..old 1956 shop....called.servis....do
you know it..3 shops in row ..east side right side of pub...thanks my
dear...north side uxbridge rd..before white hart pub.....
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 2-Feb-2014
High street.....on the corner by
school passage was Ethrington Dairy....run by Archie, who also delivered
our milk in Grove Terrace. There was also a sweet shop and a shoe
repair shop too. Chris x
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by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 2-Feb-2014
The sweet shop was run by two
sisters I believe there name s were miss watkin phyll is bount to
remeber spicers the undertaters was next to the boot mender next to r
Them was the side way to the george pub , after t he pub were more
shops there was a hardware shop tucker the pram shop I believe they
sold sewing machines also then there was a ladiieds hair dressers ithink
after that a part of abbotts followed by the entrance to the consereive club and fire station and town hall.sorry about spelling pressed the wrong key ... more >>
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 2-Feb-2014
The hairdressers was McDonalds.
Separate little cubicles inside so you could have your hair done in
private. The hardware/corn shop was I think called CHANDLERS. Wooden
floor boards and a strong smell of sawdust/ seed. Also a toy shop
called THE INTEREST shop. I loved to gaze in the window. They sold
pocket money toys too. Chris xx
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Feb-2014
I think we have talked of
the interest shop before i think it sold magic tricks jokes
ect it was across Bradburys the jewelers.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
chris Sheila denis so lovely
reading..gt.thanks .so nice.....until recent..sew singer shop.was corner
there .by 3 horseshoes pub.south side at traffic lights .but has closed
now.......
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Feb-2014
Are we going to be able to see this 1956 photo of the George & Dragon?
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
yes and shops and cars 1956..board .will se what comes now
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
board21 ...lots just gone on
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Feb-2014
Thanks Yvonne. That's the best
photo I've seen of the George & Dragon. Haven't looked at
Southalboard21 for a while and there are some really lovely photos on
there.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
yes gt 21..lots..so glad you like
1956 George dragon.wonder who lady gent are walking west along....and
1985 of George dragon.there
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Feb-2014
Could that be the sweet shop next
door to the Servis shop. As Sheila said the owners were Watson it looks
like a W at the beginning of the sign over the shop. Only a thought.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
busy windows etc thought it
looked like that sort of shop to the right..yes..1956 and yrs around
then looks old shop....to the left is it optician.next to George dragon
side gate fence pub
dark brown shop place if optician ..small plce......then servis..then sweets could be..
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
yes defo...wa...Sheila we have photo your Watson shop....3rd one along east from..George dragon shop...1956.and yrs around.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
miss watkin..2 sisters....wa in
photo..whole left side of shop full high windows sweets
..gt....PHYL...Sheila..remember...gt.1956 and before..high st north side
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Feb-2014
Sorry, my mistake. I said Watson
and Sheila said Watkin. That's the trouble sometimes you start writing
the message and forget what you've just
read. In the smaller picture of the George & Dragon there is WAT over the shop front!
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2014
gt help so grateful Pauline..you
are gt..yes wat ...well done memory Sheila watkin sister miss watkin
1956...gt photo..rare info..looks like 3 jars sweets on bottom shelf in
left window..always little weigh machines to everything ..but not
today.....ready packed things today.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2014
195 bus in 1985 ish photo at pub....southall town hall bus...hayes end yeading lane..
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Feb-2014
As you mentioned that some of our
members can't get all the Southallboards Yvonne, is it possible that
you could also put this latest rare photo of the George & Dragon on
Southallboard (the very first one we did) so that Sheila and others can
see it. I haven't put any photos on, so don't know if it is possible. I
just know that everyone can get Southallboard.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2014
good idea Pauline thanks...will do..1st board just called southallboard ..often comes up in google...George dragon there..now
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2014
they look nice
Pauline....denis.all...queen Philip go to anniversary 70 yrs dday
beaches this june...we went few yrs ago..and to museums and to
glider.pegasus bridge etc..was interesting..she went to 60th there
also..........100yrs 1st war.this yr 4yrs bbc.tv items on....we went to
ypes and menin gate few yrs ago was interesting..
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Feb-2014
Thank you Yvonne that's so good
of you to put the George & Dragon on Southallboard. Now Sheila will
be able to see what she has been telling us about.
Just tap in Southallboard in Google
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2014
lovely Pauline...let us know
Sheila....in your google space ..on your screen..search....just type in
southallboard....and click the link..
- Re: Bluebell wood
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Feb-2014
Thanks Yvonne yes whent to
the 60th did all 5 beaches & cemeterys the German gun
battery at point du Hock, Pegasus bridge. Queen & Prince
Philip & Ronald Ragen there eveybody confined to there
camp sites until they left then whent to see the Mulberry
harbour.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Feb-2014
We sailed on the ferry
Normandy which was full of veterans as we entered the Solent
4 worships followed us into the Channel then formed up each
quarter of the ferry & escorted us 1 each from America
France Canada & Briton stayed with us across the Channel
it is a day i will never forget.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2014
we drove along each
beach.memorials..car parks...the museums..Pegasus..caen.new big museum
in city was demolished bombed...hock..mulberry..and top cliff usa big
cemetety music lake and viewing centre..huge graves etc.,,.mary eglise
church with parachute hanging.museum there...queen Philip for
70th...tonight new series 9pm bbc1..j paxman..1st war 4 parts,,
- Re: Bluebell wood
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Feb-2014
We took the car it seem we
visited the same things, we also got to Villa Bocarge where
Michael Witman in his Tiger Tank took out a lot of British
armour in the town.
- Re: Bluebell wood
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2014
mary eglise was lovely.rebuilt
bombed to nothing at war....tony drove other side road not too bad..some
car parks ok..bad mad motorway to caen...but ok......back from
Cherbourg good water trip lucky calm.sea
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 29-Jan-2014
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Nearly time for bluebells. I vaguely remember cycling to a bluebell
wood along Windmill Lane or thereabouts not too sure of the location.
Anyone else remember going there? Can you recall exactly where it might
have been? Must have been almost 60 years ago. Chris x
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2014
visit raf uxbridge....several lovely links here.
youtube film etc
http://www.bing.com/search?q=trmt+visit+raf+uxbridge&form=CMNTDF&pc=CMNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Jan-2014
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Good morning all
I now live in Arundel, West Sussex, and if any more "messages" are
posted from spurious "estate agents", their contact details (e. g.
mobile phone number) will be sent to the Inland Revenue investigations
unit with covering information, in order to prevent further pollution or
contamination of our wonderful boards
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 25-Jan-2014
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Good morning all. I now live in Essex. Moved here in 1965 when my daughter was 6 weeks old.
When did you last visit Southall?
I went appx 4 years ago with my daughter, now 49.
Travelled by train to Liverpool Street and then tube to Ealing Broadway, bus to the Odeon (now Lidls).
Walked down the market ...which was not open .. It was a week day.
Then walked along North Road to see my parents old shop at 45. They ran
it as a shoe repair shop for 40 years. They closed it in 1973.
Then looked down Grove Terrace where I was born.
Also went in North Road school.
We had a great day out.
Might go back again one day. Chris x ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
lovely day chris..gt for 45 yr
old daughter .gt nostalgia.north rd green..that whole section not
changed too much plough pub still open..rare
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Jan-2014
Ref Weston super Mare - I have three cousins living in Weston super Mare - all born in Southall.
I moved from Southall in 1967 but been back a few times to visit dad's
grave in Hortus Cemetery and also my grandmother and great grandparents
in Havelock Cemetery.
Also to visit my Aunt in Marlborough Road, although she has also moved out of the area now.
Have one cousin left living in Southall.
Big families and all moved away.
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
yes ours was big family..times
modern 1960s 70s moving..cars..we like Weston..nan gdad Havelock..back
to nans gt gran died 1893 age 92 Havelock.cemetery......bapt 1801
norwood green..Havelock opened 1860s ish ..norwood green tiny church
yard got full
..before 1870.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Jan-2014
I last visited Southall in 2000.
My brother David asked me what I would like to do on my birthday when I
was 69. I said I would love to visit Southall one last time, as my dad
was the last one to die in 1971 so we had no other connections after
that. I was quite excited and we first made our way by car to Northcote
Avenue where we had spent our childhood. Grubhams the little grocers had
changed hands, but the
little steps were still there. What a lifesaver they were during those
hard times. We then took a look at Dane Road and parked the car while we
walked through the school alley to the back of Tudor Road school. We
both felt quite emotional as we looked at the boys' playground which
looked just the same apart from the shelter over the top of the benches
which used to be there. Unfortunately, while I was walking along the
pavement taking everything in, I caught my foot in a large pothole and
went down with a bang. After resting on the curb we carried on to see
Spikes Bridge road and the entrance to our dear old canal and Spikes
Bridge where we had both spent such happy hours. Walked through the park
and saw the Pavilion and the playground and the running track. It was
lovely to see although a lot of trees had gone. Up to Lady Margaret road
to have a look at the surgery where Dr Ginsborg used to be then on to
have a look at our old Southall Grammar school and Southall Park. The
last visit was to see Heston Church where we were married and then we
were off home. I wouldn't have missed it for anything. My brother died
in 2008 just before I joined this site in 2009 but the memories still
remain. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
lovely day.shame about the fall..but amazing to see so much after so many yrs..gt day.
- Re: New thread 3
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 25-Jan-2014
Worth looking at the Greenford County Grammar school photos (different years there) see how many locals you recognise
- Re: New thread 3
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
yes so many photos there each yr..good..lots southall off lady marg rd areas went there.
- Re: New thread 3
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jan-2014
Last visited Southall 3 weeks
ago go as often as can, no ties with Southall only mum in
Havelock cemetery now.
- Re: New thread 3
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jan-2014
Was it Mr Osgood who had the red Bond mini car.
- Re: New thread 3
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jan-2014
Correction there was a sports teacher in the 1950 called Mr Wilde i think he had the Bond mini car.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
we used to see about 6 cars boys
side 6 girls.teachers only allowed in centre door up theirs only stair
to 2 staffrooms..visitors came in to 2 head teachers offices
there.....but demolished 2012 only new entry Allenby rd now.about 1400
pupils include 6th form
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by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 25-Jan-2014
I last visited Southall
yesterday, mind you I only live Yeading so it's only a short walk to the
canal and then over the footbridge and I'm in Southall. Usually walk
down to Spikes Bridge Park everyday and along the Broadway a couple of
times a week.
The last vestige of the old Spikes Bridge Park is now gone, the running
track has been dug up and they are in the process of laying an
all-weather surface for
football etc. Judging by the layout it looks like the running track will
not be re-instated The park holds a rather painful memory for me as
when I was about 4 years old some of my older cousins took me over there
and I ended up having my front teeth knocked out by the seat on one the
swings when I ran into it.
The Broadway is a building site at the moment where they are re-laying
the pavements and altering the road layout to make it more pedestrian
friendly, at least that's the claim. At least the shops are going
up-market as there is now a Poundland as well as a 99p Store. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
got couple photos of the dig up
along southall broadway up 2014 new refacelift.and along places along
was woolworths..north side south side.pavement rd digging..photo shows
the old .tram rail tracks buried under quick tar..they have dug up
removed now....oh old track gone...lots money football being spent
there..and bit of historic old spikes bridge..ah..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
used to watch swings ..left side
..right side very high slide...but fear to see ..kids so near danger
crazy .high swings..eratic.use and kids near...roundabout..wigwam
witches hat.can be accidents.1950s 60s
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
clever name for west side
willowtree marina..complex..pond.off west side durdans...café restaurant
bistr there but new now...clever.name lock and quay.yeading
marina.lived in barges area.£35.5 course.per person..bar
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Jan-2014
After reading your account of
Southall and Spikes Bridge Park Colin, I'm so pleased I saw Southall in
2000. There were changes then in the park, as when we were kids the
bowling green was always in use opposite the Sports Pavilion. That was
gone then, but I still remembered the lovely smelling roses which were
growing in a bed at the bottom of the bowling green which was much
higher up. The petals we
used to pick to make scent with was never very successful as my
brothers used to say it stunk! The hours and hours we spent in that park
though were invaluable. Sometimes in the playground, but mostly on the
fields playing rounders, and any ball games when we could get hold of a
ball. We were always racing though and I loved it because I nearly
always won.The park keeper always kept an eye on us all as the boys did
get up to some pretty awful things like flooding the park overnight
when they dug a small trench from the canal and across the towpath into
the park. Even they hadn't envisaged the amount of water that built up.
Shame about the running track though. Still, our memories will still
remain. It gave us somewhere to go and something to do, and it was all
free! ... more >>
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
Yes Spikes bridge was a
playground for us all. I spent hour after hour in the tennis courts.
Some times we paid, sometimes we didn't. All that vast area of grass was
alive during the school holidays. We always entered by the Cranliegh
gardens gate, rather than go all the way round.
We used to walk through to go fishing in the cut, which in them days was free fishing, happy days.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
cormorant flies the canal along
there heron so looking for fish..tennis 60s we walked from dormers
school side gate cranleigh..into spikes and tennis lessons.white skirts
we had to make in needlework.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Jan-2014
We didn't ever play tennis in the
courts. The only time we went in the courts was when we climbed over
the top of the wire in the early morning to collect the shrapnel that
had landed from the air raid the night before.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jan-2014
shrapnel..gt..my favourite memory
from you..is your telling us of your 2 brothers trying to carry home
the large heavy part bomb from southall pk area..leaving it along by
town hall..trying to go back to find it..so good you telling us..radio 4
extra now on.archive.violet carson..and huge programme..on corrie
etc.ena.elsie tony warren..we did go to corrie tour Granada.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Jan-2014
Yes, I've just had a quick look
at David's autobiography, and he said it was the "jet section" that was
still intact, wahatever that was. He and brother Bob pulled it out of
the crater and it was very, very heavy. They half carried and dragged it
as far as the Town Hall, but ran home to get some help, but when they
came back it was gone. I won't use the words he said but suffice to say
someone had taken it!!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jan-2014
such shame think arp or other
kids got it..shame..they were young to carry..6ish david perhaps..jet
section.your dad tipped them off I think..from aec .he knew of
bombing.during night .hit along by southall pk..getting home early
morning .so think you said boys ran off to find...must have been gt
crater in southall pk...such huge adventure.even though terrible
times.would have loved to have seen them carrying.etc.gt lads ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Jan-2014
No, I've just worked it out
Yvonne. The buzz bomb that fell was in July 1944, so David would have
been nearly 8 and Bob was 11. Yes, it was my dad who came home early
from his night shift at the AEC and told them, and David said they were
over there in a flash!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jan-2014
in a flash gt.8 /11 gt lads to carry try
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Jan-2014
That V1 which fell in Southall
Park brought the ceiling down on my bed-I lived at 74 North Road.I
wasn't in it,but was in the Morrison Shelter downstairs
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 26-Jan-2014
With the thought of Cranliegh
Gardens going through my mind, and as this route, along with the flats
just up the road, was my paper round back in the day. But I remember a
paddling pool being built when I was about 8, just over the road from
the flats so is it still there? or has that also been redeveloped.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jan-2014
paddling pool went long time ago
photo of it is about...they filled it in.50s.60s people enjoyed it..by
80s must have been filled in grass there..canal new very good well
layed.tow path joggers cycles dog walkers pushchairs use well..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jan-2014
in google...says....derelict long
time long yrs...by 2003 new facelift of the gardens...£40000.to
demolish pool and buildings,,put new security fence...renew playground
equipment...spending aside £91000...cranleigh gdns
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Jan-2014
Some where in the back of my
mind, the civil defence club used to be around that area. When I moved
to Somerset in 1972 my local was the Lady Margaret, but as time moved
on and if we came home for a week end we found the locals had moved to
the civil defence club, as the Margarets clientele was changing.
So I should now ask when did that building get knocked down as it was made of corrugated sheeting as not pleasing on the eye. And what is there now.
I know the Lady Margaret is still there but I have not been in side since 1974. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
lady marg pub..been health centre
many yrs...in same preserved building...can see on street view with
same parade shops chemist etc to left south was chip shop at corner..
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Jan-2014
There's a lovely picture of the Lady Margaret pub on Southallboard52. Also a picture of the new Health Centre in Google.
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Jan-2014
Well that has surprised me, the
wife and I have standing joke that the next time we visit Southall we
will call into the Margaret for a pint and see how it changed. What
next, no Margaret, no Three horse shoes, no Whit Hart, no Byron, no
Greenford Hotel.. has the Bee Hive and Plough Survived.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
north rd beehive plough
open...norwood green plough...old oak tree .junction pubs
open...Havelock pub now betting office..victory pub now hotel..3 tins
pub now hotel.northcote pub derelict fire..3 horseshoe open at moment
but ..George dragon gone...redlion open.by southall pk...Greenford
redlion went nov 2012..white hart Greenford rd gone..hambro pub hayes
bridge open
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
seagull pub turned into night
club...wedding receptions tends to be used for now...civil engineer was
by gone now taylor woodrow...pub open....white hart yeading lane
open..2012 industry yeading lane gone...but grapes along at uxbridge rd
junction open..waggonhorses uxbridge rd by hayes bridge went few yrs
ago.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
litten pub Greenford went few yrs
ago but along brit legion and railway tavern open..with junction
western ave bridge hotel expanded and open.....hare hounds pub by
Greenford grammar open ..Allenby pub closed about 10 yrs ago..beehive
open..
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Jan-2014
Yvonne thank you for cheering me
up. Every pub I used in Southall has gone. My Dad Used to get me to meet
him me in the Red Lion by the park, on a Saturday on his way home from
the AEC. That place was iffy then, so must have something going for it
now.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Jan-2014
Tom the paddling pool is still there but filled in.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
2004 link sent you derelict
pool..they filled in.grassed over....took down buildings..red lion still
there hotel as well by southall park...redlion Greenford high st went
nov 2012.now flats.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
long time ago huge indoor swim
pool built in grounds dormers seniors..and gym and sports
facility....gurnell new swim pool built 1981..ruislip rd by cuckoo.off
Greenford....Northolt huge mosern swim pool diving etc.complex sport..by
Northolt tube station.....uxbridge Olympic size pool built .opened by
Sharon davis of Olympic gold...ealing broadway pubs many open...
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Jan-2014
Don't think you'd like the Red
Lion pub and hotel by Southall Park now. Suggest you read the guests
opinion of it. I did just now!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
the ones who have written about
nostalgia trips back...long term people of southall and southall
green.of many yrs ago.were kids etc southall.long yrs....come back few
times..in recent yrs and use 3 tuns pub hotel.which is.now hotel called
mehfil..east side southall green by Osterley pk rd..corner
there...genuine very good reports.they were welcomed and very good stays
they said there..in last few yrs..by our own people who came back for nostalgia trips praised mehfil greatly ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 27-Jan-2014
I was amazed that the Litton
Hotel in Greenford went, but as always, there was more profit in selling
the building land than in selling beer
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
litten old peoples home built on site
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Jan-2014
Talking of pubs that have gone i have heard that the Old Oak Tree on the Common is in trouble.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
will check denis...has been slow
many yrs..but does ..bb..hotel room..got big sign for it..by canal..pub
front..1800s..lots history..brickmaking labourers etc...old days yrs..so
will see ..thanks
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
reliable source denis...IS open but quiet...hope summer ..gets people....bb hotel as well keeps it going..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
had fairly recent
refurbish..think that was t get hotel bb rooms into it...perhaps smarten
bar also.....my gdads pub..ha...1870 to 1928...they were all around
there..dad born next door to pub..west side...left
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jan-2014
Yvonne tried to book in got
a reply stating this hotel is not taking booking tried to
email there web site came back mail failure.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
oh.......mehfil.was3 tuns pub..southall green..lots of 1950s southall chaps stay at when nostalgia return in recent times
...say mehfil treats them gt say good there..opposite dilloways.....slow
time oak pub..winter..but will keep eye...if internet web down....phone
is..0208 574 5851.postcode ub2 5pj...may be their website not
working...
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jan-2014
Thanks Yvonne but Oak Tree blocked by Booking.com to.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
thanks..if their web or such not
working...phone might work...they seem to think pub hotel is
open........if booking web site internet not working
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jan-2014
Ok thanks.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Jan-2014
I hope you weren't thinking of
booking in that hotel Denis, as I spent a great deal of time today
looking it up. As Yvonne mentioned, and as I read, the Mehfil hotel had
excellent ratings, and lots of recommendations from everyone that had
stayed there. It was a proper hotel. However the one you tried to book
was disastrous, and every review was quite appalling. If you look at
some of them you will get the picture. Unless it has completely changed from last year I certainly wouldn't be going there. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Jan-2014
Hi Pauline thank you for the warning & advice.
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 23-Jan-2014
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Just want to say belated happy new year to one and all. Long live our
treasured memories of our childhood home..SOUTHALL. Chris x
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Jan-2014
Happy New Year to you Chris and
everyone else. Thank goodness we still have so many treasured memories
of our beloved Southall! Long may this lovely site last.
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 23-Jan-2014
I am sure this site will continue, so many lovely people contribute, sharing memories of happy times. Chris x
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
happy new year chris and family from us..yes lovely members here gt site
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
happy new yr Pauline and everyone.from us..gt site
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
Happy New Year Yvonne. Yes it is a great site with lovely people!
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
Thanks for your suggestion Fred,
and thank you Chris for starting this new thread. I could not think of
something to start off.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
birdwatch this weekend
600000.people did last yr..freepost.rspb.or on line.often get
rook..magpie robin.blackbird..sometimes goldfinch.wren.woodpecker.long
tail tit gt tit..woodpigeon.starling..garden..squirrel ..if
fox.wagtail.rare sparrow
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
I was born in Derwent Road, and worked for Westlands
Until it closed in 1972 and then went to work for Kearley and Tonge in
the warehouse that was left of the factory following its closure.
Westlands eventually persuaded me to move to Weston Super Mare where I
have lived since November 1972. My thoughts always return to Southall as
I was a very happy bunny in them days. On my few returns to Southall
originally for weddings, but sadly now farewells, I cannot believe how
much has changed. So this site is a blessing to me as it takes me back
to such good times.Those running this site deserve every praise
possible. Thank you. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
gt to hear you tom.my aunt loved
working kearley think it closed 1970 ish..last jam ole run..their own
coal dock off canal..arrived from Birmingham.barges..we went couple yrs
ago Weston.holiday..great helicopter museum spent couple ours there
.good museum in town..new pier now.street view free in google goes
around southall.2012...fairey was gt hayes southall border many yrs..
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 24-Jan-2014
Tom
About a year or so ago I put a list up of all the private docks on each
side of the canal from Brentford to W Drayton. > > If you can find
it, there are loads of interesting old company names, mostly now long
forgotten. In the 1950s, I remember going on one of these old covered
docks on a punt. It was if it had been abandoned years before. It was
wonderful
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
docks firms..good .in google..this..http://gerald-massey.org.uk/Canal/c_chapter_10.htm
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
southall .bulls bridge etc.http://www.londoncanals.co.uk/paddarm/padarm02.html
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Jan-2014
Hi Tom i used to go down
Derwent Road on my way to Dormers Wells in the late 50s when
did you live there please.
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
Hi Dennis I lived in Derwent Road from 1948 until 1972. I attended Dormers and didn't want to leave.
You could have known my 2 brothers who were a lot older than me, they also went to Dormers Names of Fred and Sid.
One was made on football the other was made on rugby.
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 24-Jan-2014
I went to Dormers 1956 to 1961. Happy days, didn't want to leave. Cried all the way home! Chris x
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 24-Jan-2014
We need a few more entries on here to achieve our aim folks...keep it going.
Chris x
Ttfn ...all for one and one for all! Stick together folks !
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
Hi Chris can you name any of the
teachers at Dormers Wells. I can only remember the Head Mr Ebbott, who
retired while I was there and a Mr Grace took over.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
yes photos of ebbut retired.grace
had west side office think boys had cane in there...lucky chris and
myself girls school had morris headmistress and no cane ...boys
teachers..we had east side girls female teachers.until merger 1967.some
teachers retired did not want merger
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
in genes reunited photo
ebbutt..with football against hayes...sports teacher
bellion...1957/8......gosney cup..boys amos Johnson Conway etc...more
teachers names under comments memories
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
dormers band 1957..try on trumpet lipscomb guitar.coleman drums..music teacher photo..there
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 24-Jan-2014
There's an easier way of getting rid of "unwelcome postings"
Just supply a copy of the ad with the mobile phone number (these people
only ever use mobiles, with no address) to the Inland Revenue (now
called "HMRC" and advise them of the business this guy is running and
ensuring that his taxes are up to date on his declared income. I
assure you he will never post anything here again
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
photo there of Stephen
deacon..carnell creech 1960.F R>dormers.school .john corney...h t
ebbutt suppose harry...new building 2012 .old 1934 demolished..new
security entrance now Allenby rd..students usually use security swipe
cards or finger print entry..glass modern building drama art
IT.etc..swim pool.gym..gardening..built out on field..dinner hut at far
back went long time ago..woman head now..many
yrs.due retire in a few yrs or so..1300 and more students with 6th
form a levels..new spikes bridge park track cricket pavillion ongoing
huge sport there.huge money spent. ... more >>
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
Yvonne just registered on Genes, can you advise best way to find these items on this site, thanks Tom
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
we have all complained yrs now
they changed it all several yrs ago..hard to use now..pity..I put
dormers .ebutt etc in google and photos came up....with site type in
dormers wells senior school southall.then hope photos come up.john
corney put on lots cricket rugby gosney cup..football..by huts on boys
low wall photos prefects 1957./8...what yrs are you.............1955
rugby..1957 re gwyther and ebutt
photos both done 25 yrs staff....mr boxer engineer wood metal room.with
boy woods.1955...football against hayes...h t ebbutt.photo gosney
1957/8.amos bellion.conway Johnson.boys...used to be sections comment
teachers page students page..years each pupil there.but we all find it
so bad to use now..pity 10 yrs was excellent site..used to have streets
people yrs .houses..clubs workplaces yrs at...southall places...but cant
see at site so hard to use.now..wrote to complain but waste time ... more >>
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Jan-2014
I agreed. It was easy to use at first but now so difficult to navigate around the site so tend to give up after a while.
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Jan-2014
Can anybody remember where the
school dentist used to be? I can remember going to have 4 teeth out but
can't remember where. Had gas in those days.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
wrote to them several
times.nothing done..they said thought people preferred..but it is
useless ...was so good.quick easy use..photos still there bit is there
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
we had gas 50s northcote clinic
corner off pub nhs..and over king st church ave corner ..dental.and some
more about..on site here few yrs ago..index type dentist and knowhere
southall page comes up ..ctl f and highlight dentist word on month
mentioned..our site here.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
Yvonne - I left Northcote Avenue
in 1952, so didn't ever know the Clinic opposite the Northcote Arms. I
can only remember a leather shop there and that's a bit hazy. Can anyone
else remember it?
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
I used to attend the school
dentist, first at North road and then at Featherstone road school.
Didn't ever have gas, but was terrified of the fillings. It was like
going to the block as far as I was concerned.
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Jan-2014
Ahhhh - it must have been the
Northcote Clinic as I remember getting the bus with my mum from the
Broadway to get home with a great big scarf wrapped round my face.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
Looking at the latest achievement
of this thread by all of us reminds me what Punch (of Punch and Judy)
would have said "That's the way to do it!!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
50s was gas for extraction nhs
school clinic ..but nothing for filling....leather gt Pauline...in the
corner by the alley..opposite grubhams .was 1950s etc clinic ears eyes
throat .teeth...sat on old benches..buy place..scared of old place.and
staff..most people did not like it......opposite off to the corner of
the pub...opposite along...private dentists may be south rd etc...50s
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
it must have been 2nd half of 50s..clinic northcote ave was..nhs.kids clinic ...1960s people remember it.hated it
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 24-Jan-2014
Speaking of Punch & Judy,
Pauline, do you remember that they sometimes had Punch & Judy and
other summertime shows, during the school holidays, on the grass area to
the left of the swimming pool in the 'rec'.
By the way is the pool stil there? I doubt it, by the heck it was cold even in summer.
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
Just remembered a few more
teachers from Dormers Boys school. Mr Martin (bean head to the kids, he
was bald) Mr Selby, Mr Newton, Mr Morgan, Mr Lance, Mr Truckle, Mr
Cunnigham, and Mr Marshall, who was supposed to be the brother of the
Marshall that made the amplifiers in Hanwell.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
I can't remember seeing any Punch
and Judy shows during the summer holidays Fred. Perhaps they were after
the war, and I was only 14 when I left SG in 1945.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
fred long time gone the pool
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
what yrs tom at
dormers........yes heard of lance..he was probably still there
60s...marshall james amps...dad was southall green road off ran fish
chip shop..lots items on james in google party hanwell guitar shop 2012
for him..plaque..ealing music jazz club big crowd there...brother
teacher dormers that's interesting....
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
Yvonne I was at Dormers from 1960 to 1965.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
snap.same here...so most photos on genes reunited 50s ..not really 60s
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
1964 school trip to Salzburg
train..girls going through piazza we were asked to moved they were
filming..our 2 teachers when back found out sound music.filming.so 6th
form girls we went to Leicester sq to see it..gt dolby huge sound camera
wide screen gt gt gt
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
in google 1960s boys...only terry
sayers .Michael
smith....http://namesdatabase.com/schools/UK/MI/Southall/Dormers%20Wells%20High%20School
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by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 24-Jan-2014
I think we all like tnis site
.southall was such a nice place to grow up in .I always thought that I d
never move away but when I marriedi moved wiyh my husband to portsmouth
thinking that when he came out of the navy we would move back .but by
the time thathappened my parent had moved to ashford in kent with the
london overspill but I have lovely memories of my childhood and im
still in touch with school friend , lets keep jogging memories , ... more >>
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 24-Jan-2014
Good to see everyone determined
to keep this site going through thick and thin. My first memory of a
dentist was visiting Parker East, being lifted into a big black chair
and a black mask almost covering my face - I was three years old! His
surgery was up steep stairs above a shop near Barters shoe shop (think
it was Barters).
Interesting to find another Southallian settled in Weston super Mare.
Happy New Year to you all and hope you are keeping dry! ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
best wishes
Sheila....Janice...barretts shoe shop right of woolworths....but there
were several dentists about.yes black gas mask..extractions
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
Yvonne I used to knock about with
Terry Sayers, I think he married one of the Jackson Girls, that lived
opposite him in East Ave. I have not heard of him since 1968.
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by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 24-Jan-2014
I left Dormers Wells 1948,Some Teachers I remember
Sammy Reeves, Mr Watson, Mr Bladen Mr Lewis, Mr Risborough.Mr Walker.
Very Happy Days indeed.
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by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 24-Jan-2014
Teachers from my years at DW
1943/7 were headmaster Mr Ebbut who wote a book on Dalias, Miss Quy,Mrs
Gibbs,Walker,Hooper,Hunt,Blaydon,Willis,Gwithers,Lewis,Reeves,Osgood,Risb----
wood work teacher.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
sayers has put himself on that site ...might be yrs ago though.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
ron..photo on friends reunited 1957 of 2 who were of 25 yrs dormers then....h t ebbutt ...and r e gwythers
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 24-Jan-2014
I was at Dormers Wells
1940-1942/Headmaster Mt Ebbutt, teadchers Mr Gwyther, Mt Hooper(later
called up for the RAF),Sammy Reeves, Mt Worley, Messrs Riseborough,
Watson-woodwork,Mr Lewis.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jan-2014
I remember Mr Ebbut he caned
me often, Mr Watson (woodwork) Mr Walker, Mr Lions, Mr Osgood
(sports)? Mr Lance (metalwork) Mr Scragg (gardening) if i recall
correctly after 56 yrs.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jan-2014
I think Mr Watson was called up for R.A.F service to.
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
Hi Janice, I take you are also in weston super mud.
More teachers being Mr Bright, a Mr Truckle, was woodwork teacher,
another who retired while I was there. Also Mrs Johnson who was always
cold, even in summer would not open the Windows.
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 25-Jan-2014
Hi Tom Flynn - Have lived in WsM
since 1982, moved from Reading. Had no connection with Southall since
mother moved away in 1971.
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
Hi Janice, we also have no one left in Southall now.
All gone, or what remained moved away.
We live by Priory School off Wandsborough Road.
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 25-Jan-2014
In the mid 1950's am I correct
that MrEbutt was the headmaster of the boys school. We would stand at
the edge of the playground and wait for him to come down the drive at
speed in his Austin Somerset. Just waiting for the day his car would hit
his office wall.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
yes ebbutt head in photo of him 1957 out back of boys hall..
..25 yrs school he had done it says
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Jan-2014
Denis-youe were right about Mt Watson being called up-he was I think in the RAF
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
in google...put teachers memories
dormers ..up came list from friends reunited..lance deputy.head humber
snipe car.gave cane.....Watson hit pupils on foot with his walking
stick...by bob cornwall ......walker did maths.................alan
walker says .Watson did woodwork instead of slipper hit boys with 2x1
bit..........chin did drama..a teachers panto..by Maxine nelhams nee
timberlake................dormers school
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
memories there...are of chris and
mine yrs......sue short games netball hockey.by sue griggs long legs
from northcote ave.....eva jones pe...maynard domest sci..evans mad
horrid re....gabby geog was mrs Gabriel....sue says she loved fresh
strawberries from boys gardening with icecream.dinner hut .back end of
sports back field long path..down in line with Allenby rd...lisa ford
says pirates penzance
Mikado gilbert Sullivan stage done girls dormers...with mrs
Williams...saw that dormers stage. july 1960..gt show girls black
moustaches and trousers etc....memory by Elaine goddard wilson.of mrs
fischel science..her dad was doctor from Vienna.20yrs there got new labs
built 1964ish...old airaid shelter concrete deep not go till 1970 ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jan-2014
Mr Walker badly gassed WW1 often of school with chest problems
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by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 25-Jan-2014
Good memories of Dormers though
was eager to leave and get full time job. My first boyfriend was at
Dormers too, Brian Stevens. He was in the football team. Have not been
to Southall for many years. My sister lives in Lincolnshire and her
family have all spread out. I now live in Vancouver, Canada.
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 25-Jan-2014
I've done this list before. On here a while ago.....but here goes again:
Dormers wells teachers I recall.
MISS MORRIS (HEAD). Miss Davis (Welsh lady) history. Mrs Ellis
(history). MissOliver (had a limp) English and ran the library in first
classroom at top of stairs near to girls cloakroom. Mrs Fischel
(science). Mrs Gabriel (geography ). Mrs Bowles games (heard that she
passed away 2013). Miss
Herbert (games) she married but can't remember he new name. Miss
Pinkney (French). Mrs Gibbs (maths). Mrs Jones (maths). Another Mrs
Jones (sports). Mrs Parker (shorthand). Mrs Roberts (typing). Miss
Maynard ( domestic science). Mrs hinds and Mrs Parkin needlework. Mrs
Chambers (maths). Miss Litler (English ). Mrs gray (secretary) .
Mrs Lowe and Miss Turnball art and craft. Miss Dobing (music).
Probably some I've missed! Last of all THE WICKED HORRID MISS EVANS
......she would be struck off if she was teaching now. She taught RE
but was the most evil person I have ever met! I'd love to meet her now
and give her a piece of my mind.
Not a bad memory folks...I left school 53 years ago!
Chris x ... more >>
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
Lynette ref your first boyfriend Brian Stevens did he get called "Charlie" by his friends.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
gt memory chris.ellis hist yes
upstairs above evil evans...gray morris both retired at boys merge went
to far west wales haverfordwest.both passed elderly..mrs foot of eng and
library told me we were with her to her passing...libray 1960ish moved
into new building..end by hut of maynard..newlibrary below art
above..chambers retired 1961 maths good had her
yr....tattersal...lynette and myself had for
French.....parkin yes gt 4 yrs needlework treddle machines
etc....dobing married to coutts gt extremely gd music teacher and
assemblies....littler lewis both friends there till 1970 ish...queue of
us 400 kids to give evans piece of our mind ofsted would have sacked her
1st day.nearly 20 yrs or 15 yrs..think she was there 50s 60s..she
retired july 1966 avoid boys merge due easter 1967 ... more >>
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by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 25-Jan-2014
Yes Tom, he was called Charlie or Chaz. Did you know him?
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
Yes Charlie was in my class, and
he was the school football captain and I was rugby captain. When he left
school I thought he was signed by Crystal Palace. Another one I have
not seen since leaving school.
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by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 25-Jan-2014
Yes, he was signed by them,
played in the juniors. We went out together after leaving school and he
was still with CP went we split up. Shame how we loose touch with
people.
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
Yes Charlie was in my class, and
he was the school football captain and I was rugby captain. When he left
school I thought he was signed by Crystal Palace. Another one I have
not seen since leaving school.
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 25-Jan-2014
I'm not far off 70 and pleased to
say I am still in touch with a few special friends from my childhood
Southall days. Chris x
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
Lynette while I was doing my
apprenticeship at Westland Helicopter I would look at the team's fielded
by CP to see if Charlie made the first team, but I never saw his name,
so imagine he either did not make it or had an injury that caused him
problems. One Bertie Head was manager at the time.
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 25-Jan-2014
Hello Tom, lived for couple of
years Longdown Drive before moving to Nelson Court (near Manor Inn)
where lived 27 years, have just moved to Lyefield Road. Southall was
quite a good place to be brought up in when we were young and my two
brothers and myself have happy memories.
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Jan-2014
I have just remembered the name
of another teacher at Dormers Wells School-Mr Hunt,He had a clubbed foot
and walked with a stick-he had a very short fuse. There was also
another teacher,Mr Worley.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jan-2014
mr Worley on the list teachers at
friends reunited..we knew southall Worley family 1890s to saw them
again 1970s..my aunt .gdad .both gt friends with them .large family.
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by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 26-Jan-2014
Tom, I worked for Hestair Sherpa
before I left England and I think it closed around 1971. Quite a few of
the men that worked there went to Westlands.
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 26-Jan-2014
There was a Linda Worley in my class at Dormers wells. Chris x
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
unusual surname Worley bet lyn
was from family southall green northhyde 1925 all yrs back and
around..my family knew many yrs..mr Worley teacher 1940s etc.could be of
them.
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Jan-2014
Lynette, when I started as
Westlands there was always a board outside listing the jobs going, but
by mid 1970 the place was packed. I had never seen so many new faces, so
that gave an indication of the work situation in the area. Westland was
a bad place to work in 60s and 70s, we had no organised union, and in
today's terms we were close to the minimum wage level for skilled men.
The Westlands I left 5 years was a good employer, still on final salary pensions and high wages for the area. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
we enjoyed helicopter museum..there good few yrs now gt collection... .Weston super mare holiday 4 yrs ago.westlands etc.
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
http://www.bing.com/search?q=weston+super+mare+helicopter+museum+westlands&form=CMNTDF&pc=CMNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Jan-2014
Hi Lynette just been looking at
southallboard 12 and halfway down page 1 is a picture of Charlie at
Tudor Road school with the football team. Don Selby is the teacher. He
was also our teacher at Dormers, years later I ended up playing cricket
with him for Southall tech. Happy days.
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by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 27-Jan-2014
Hi Tom, would love to see the photo but don't know how to get to Southallboard12. Can you help?
I'm not familiar with Flickr. Lynette
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 28-Jan-2014
Hi Lynette all I do is put
southallboard12 into Google and it takes you to Flickr click on that and
you are in. No doubt Yvonne will correct me if I'm wrong. The picture
in question is not Tudor Rd school it's Dormers, as some of the faces on
there were at Lady Margaret junior's with me.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
yes tom..some do have trouble getting flickr.last 4 yrs now..pity some don't get it..54 boards.....
.let us know lyn if you find it or not......photo from friends reunited ..photos schools section......also....
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
people could add their own photos there....let us know if you have photos to add...much appreciated................
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
tom....there is...southall
football photo...half down 1......would you click comment ..there....and
add type your info ..please...names etc
etc...thanks...board12...anyphotos....has comment area...gt to have
knowledge there...54 boards of 4 yrs work
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 28-Jan-2014
Will do Yvonne, there are a
couple of Rugby photo,s on there of Southall Tech rugby club, who I
played for until I moved to Weston, I'll sit and add some comments to
those as well.
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 28-Jan-2014
What I meant to add, was the
rugby club went when they built the feeder road to the motorway. Looking
at Google earth there is still some of Warren park left. From talking
to ex players the Tech could not wait to get rid of us.
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
warren farm pk..sports area of near 3 bridges windmill rd....thanks .put comments.photos please thanks
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Jan-2014
Can somebody please explain how
to upload photos onto Flickr. Can you add to already existing Southall
boards or do you have to create your own?
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by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 28-Jan-2014
The Warren park I played rugby at
was behind the Grapes. Down Carliyn way and keep walking. Looking on
Google E the main road is about 20 yrs from the old main gate, which
appears to still be there.
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
can add to any of the 54 boards
carol...will try type it...or Pauline fred might help...password and you
can add to .put photo.....comments just click comments .and add
comment.to photos
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
behind grapes pub uxbridge rd
junction yeading lane....yes mike braden talks of sport...brookside
fields yeading brook....huge sport fields each decade...down west to
spikes bridge
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
many yrs still open fields
there..north of grapes pub..behind...down yeading lane..brookside sports
huge grass fields...parallel with uxbridge rd going west....big changes
sport over decades..hayes lost its sports ground etc...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
carol you can open your own we
can look....or add to southall board...denis..opened his own
flickr.southall.................ron cox Australia added to our flickr
southall few times..and few did...great.....each board...so board50
password middlesex50...board12 password middlesex12...board 15 password
middlesex15...you can add photos if you completely sign in with
password.....let me know if we can help more..just say.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
hayes yeading....warren football club in google...
http://www.bing.com/search?q=warren+park+rugby+sports+yeading+hayes+middlesex&form=CMNTDF&pc=CMNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Jan-2014
Thanks Yvonne, will try.
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
to put photos on sign in...ID
southallboard12...then password ....type ..Middlesex12.......etc like
this for each 54 board..4yrs work..southall and local...
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Jan-2014
Put one photo on as experiment but have no idea how you get to see it. Don't think it's on Southall board.
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
was it board12...will try see it....what was it of.....thanks ....
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Jan-2014
Picture was of paddling pool building/shop
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
flickr on the screen....right side search...put in southall and some come up there of memory..
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=southall
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
lovely nostalgia...also steam trains southall station..http://www.flickr.com/groups/48765925@N00/
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 28-Jan-2014
Tom and Eve, thanks for you help. Did manage to get on by typing into Google. So nice to see the photos. Lynette
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 28-Jan-2014
Lynette I have put a couple of names on the football photo, do you recognize any faces.
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 28-Jan-2014
Tom, I new Jeff Wood and I think John Masters might be there. Everyone looks so young.
- Re: As suggested..new thread...
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
Pauline just found.it......on 1st
board...the first one...down only little bit..john masters.and
friends....thanks...for comment..tom....Charlie stevens
captain..etc..thanks for the info comment...4yrs ago that board was done
in the January started flickr..southall...let us know..if you are able
to put other info.on photos so we can find read thanks..lovely.
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 23-Jan-2014
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To all our members, my suggestion for negating people who try to usurp
this site by putting their ads in the middle of our dialogue, is to just
keep starting new Subjects so that their ads slip further & further
down the page & out of view.
We are many, they are few.
- Re: Our site
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Jan-2014
Good idea Fred
- Re: Our site
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 23-Jan-2014
Thank you Keith.
With every new paragraph the message sinks lower & lower.
Until it disappears altogether.
And we rejoice.
Ha ha. ... more >>
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- Re: TO RENT
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 22-Jan-2014
Go away!
- Re: TO RENT
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Jan-2014
Yes, go away
- Re: TO RENT
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Jan-2014
You have no place on here.
- Re: TO RENT
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Jan-2014
You have no place on here.
- Re: TO RENT
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 23-Jan-2014
Sir this forum does not with to encourage the likes of you to use it as an advertising medium.
It is for like minded folk of Southall to reminisce about the town and the fond memories that it holds.
So with the greatest respect, please remove yourself!!
- Re: TO RENT
by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 23-Jan-2014
I agree 100% with Thompson`s comments, and I am sure many more will agree with you.
- Re: TO RENT
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Jan-2014
I also agree with the comments of Thompson and others!
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Southall Laundry
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 21-Jan-2014
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Does anyone have any particular memories of Southall Laundry which was up near the The White Swan in Norwood Rd.
I know my cousin Theresa worked there but that is all I know. I do
remember my grandmother admonishing her once for wearing a new dress to
work saying "the bosses will be thinking they're paying you too much"
- Re: Southall Laundry
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Jan-2014
Hi Fred mum used Southall
Laundry in the 1950s i remember a van called & dropped
clean & took dirty laundry, i can remember her marking
the items with indelible ink that would not wash out, funny
i still have the little bottle of ink.
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 21-Jan-2014
I do not remember S/l but do
remember taking sheets ect to get a bag wash done and walking down
Abbots Rd towards the bottom.
- Re: Southall Laundry
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 21-Jan-2014
My mum worked at southall laudrey
she folded the clrean sheets as they came off the press , mumwork there
from 1958 till 68 , I think my aunt also did a few month there as tea
lady , we used to get a discount on the family wash , it was nt a
pleasant job very hot and damp I think but I think the girls all had a
laugh and made the best of it
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2014
laundry there..lived local so mike barker was van driver assistant 1960s.
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 21-Jan-2014
I remember laundry on Southall
Broadway,on the north side of the road 1930'3,1940's. My mum used it
quite a bit. She also had a mangle-occasionally I used to run wet
newspapers through it-I was very unpopular!
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 21-Jan-2014
Best use of the mangle was to get the last bit of the Gibbs SR out of the tube!
- Re: Southall Laundry
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 22-Jan-2014
Up until I retired,11 years ago then running a Bakery in Stanmore I had a contract with Southall Laundry for workwear.
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2014
that's marvellous career of yours .and king st southall laundry 11 yrs ago.also
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jan-2014
I don't remember Southall Laundry
but did very occasionally take a bagwash up to the place just along
from the group of shops where the Billiard Hall was in Southall High
Street. I remember it as I had to give up my job at Car & General
Insurance Co. in Ealing at 16 when my mum went away again into
convalescence and I looked after the house and did all the washing!
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2014
was difficult times for you.and
your family.you did so very well.for them all.yes the billiard hall.our
male members family spoke of yrs used.broadway up by there.as young
men..at Heston .nans family taken off with tb.so 3 orphans left ..was
nan she age 3 with 5/7 yr old brothers.mum age 29 and kids died tb.so
had to go and live with aunt and all her kids one bed 1890s 1900s..she
loved them all till all
their deaths by 1960s 70s..her brother blown to bits france.other
brother heston kept home at war.hestonfarm shire horse awardmedals
lifetime worked there age 12 to age 60s.skilled horse plough..died yr
after it closed. ... more >>
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jan-2014
Yes, TB was certainly a big
killer all those years ago. It was virtually eradicated in this country
at one time, but I heard on LBC radio station the other day that it was
on the increase in London!
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2014
yes have heard news few yrs now
.increases...schools 1960s .all had tb jab.worked well..80s 90s and
now..heathrow etc..loads coming into country from all parts..bringing tb
etc in ...hugely contagious buses etc.crowded contact places .schools
over last over 10yrs more.announce when bad contagious disease found at
school..huge population increase.travelling in from all parts.world .
- Re: Southall Laundry
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 22-Jan-2014
I was one of the first childrnat north road school to have the tb vaccination as my cousin was taken ill with tb and my r
Father worked on the ambulances so I guess it was thought I was aa high
risk .my cousin was in harefield hospital a very long time and also
spent months at home but recover and had good health until she passed
away last year age 84 .
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2014
84 is lovely .so pleased..tb and all the terrible bad illnesses are awful..ambulance yes good idea.
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jan-2014
My mum was also convalescing in
Harefield Hospital for some time Sheila, and I remember in the summer my
dad took several of us to see her. Yhe patients were outside in the
grounds in wooden huts. It was quite beautiful there and I remember
there was a haystack not far from the huts. I think it was in the
1940's.
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2014
gt hospital and convales.1st war
oz and newz war amputees etc there ,graves of some at harefield
church..now many yrs gt heart hospital.car park..village green village
shops .grand pub.red kite flies over high hill there .below.lakes
harefield valley of chilterns and canal.rural.middx
- Re: Southall Laundry
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Jan-2014
Dad had his Hernia operation in Harefield hospital in 1959.
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Jan-2014
To all our members, my suggestion
for negating people who try to usurp this site by putting their ads in
the middle of our dialogue, is to just keep starting new Subjects so
that their ads slip further & further out of view. Remember there
are far more of us than him.
- Re: Southall Laundry
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 23-Jan-2014
Yvonne your comment regarding my
career. When I stop to think about that shy nervous young boy from a
Southall Council Estate,who eventually was to own two Grade II Listed
properties, be on first name terms with Lords, Right Honourable Ladies
and Gentlemen, MPs both national and international and leaders of
industry.
Still my wife thinks I should have taken another path in my career,as she believes there was further potential. I would agree but this has still been a good life. ... more >>
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2014
baker is wonderful skill..only by
norwood green Osterley estate Heston mill..did eliz 1st visit..best
wheat best bread she said and was for her .earl jersey had...my dad when
not well was at star garter gt queen mary home for services.richmond
hill famous gt view bend in thames.wonderful staff .gorgeous
building.heritage.
- Re: Southall Laundry
by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 23-Jan-2014
My mum worked at the laundry in
the early 1940's, believe it was actually in Beverly Road(just off
Norwood Road) There used to be an alleyway into Clifton Road where my
grandmother lived. I lived with my gran and grandad during those years
as my mother worked very long hours, she used to start at 7.30am and
work 6 days a week.
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2014
hard work jean...near off ..white
swan pub area...norwood rd goes down to norwood green...some from your
road worked haigh picture frame factory the old mill by canal..
- Re: Southall Laundry
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Jan-2014
Thompson - It was really lovely
to read the account of your career and what achievements you made in
your life. As you say, a shy, nervous young boy from a Southall Council
Estate, and Northcote Avenue at that. I am certain that many other
people who lived in our beloved Southall were also great achievers, and I
wish you a long happy retirement.
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CHILDREN'S HOMES
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 12-Jan-2014
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Does anybody know children's homes near Southall in 1930s. Two little
girl's were sent to a home when their mother died, one aged 2 and one
aged 4. Trying to find out where they might have been sent to.
- Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
law some time now says kids
themselves can find out their info...through local authorities
info..usually through agency..kidshome.info .if adopted or
fostered..social services.councils..records they themselves allowed to
ask.
- Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 12-Jan-2014
Thanks Yvonne - just found out it was in Chiswick.
- Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
gt
- Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
lma north of st pauls
London..archive for London greater London 1930 onwards mcc childrens
homes info records..free entry open daily..waiting list delay they reply
to you .invite you to search their indexes records.open evening times
in google.
http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cats/118/13240.htm
- Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cgi-bin/vcdf/detail?coll_id=13240&inst_id=118&nv1=search&nv2=
- Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 12-Jan-2014
That's great Yvonne, thanks for your help.
- Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
ok
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PREFABS
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 6-Jan-2014
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Does anybody know whether there is a street plan of the prefabs on the
Golflinks Estate? Road names I think that were kept were Redcroft Road,
Fleming Road and others, but Martin Way which ran through the middle I
think disappeared.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
there is facebook.golf links
estate.easy to join.. all those lived there all yrs prefabs etc..barry
Raymond gave council plan of prefabs sheet.image shows units..parades
etc...fleming rd..some photos of estate also prefabs and ..flats
maisonettes became..3 blocks demolished nov 2013 .refurbish plan
now..gradually
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
8th parade ran .east near
Greenford rd..2rows back from fleming rd all across....dormers way.off
to west .walk into the green.. houses Darwin close etc..little row shops
at green..old peoples home eventide built on mound kids played telford
rd .faraday rd...out onto dormers wells lane..ealing broadway library
local hist of southall would have maps info.email write or bus car to
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
aug 2013 photo of redcroft rd in google..golflinks est.with Gleneagles tower in distance behind.seems martin way gone.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/map/property/southall/redcroft-road/?pn=1&view_type=map
shows the streetview map clear all the roads left now.most gone.your
redcroft clear if you were at back or up near top fleming..glen eagles
tower block east side of it at Greenford rd..not much going down middle
grass lawns and sections of maisonettes..1947 1st person to go in new
prefab was in gazette.1970 flats built.demolition ... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
3 courts demolish now .st davids
gone.cromer going..dormers rise off to west..to the north side fleming
rd Osborne rd of prefabs.rd still there..baird along back..out onto the
green longridge lane goes all along to far corner..that hollow and brick
wall with co op and greengrocer and sweet shop right east corner..cohn
was our gp greenford rd.by traffic lights white hart pub gone now flats
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
seen the council plan map of
prefabs 1961..martin way .running east from Greenford rd.to west as you
say through middle across ways..down from fleming rd on west side here
is whitecote rd..running down from fleming rd..so parallel with
Greenford rd..Haldane rd.so running from north to south.like whitecote
on the other side..
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
the prefabs green around middle
area there on plan map 1961kids play tree ..with springvale rd at east
side..midcroft rd .coming down from fleming rd..to it.. past 8th7th 6th
5th parades prefabs..chicken wire fences around square back gardens shed
for coal.2 bedrooms separate toilet bathroom.fitted little metal
cupboards kitchen.flip up table.tiny covered fire living room 2
bedrooms,gas fridge
- Re: PREFABS
by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 7-Jan-2014
The prefabs were a good place for
a child to grow up. I lived in Osborne Road where there were 8 prefabs
in the caul de sac. I knew everyone who lived there, the Websters next
door, Jimmy Williams and Alan Davis a couple of doors down. Also,
friends were the Kimmins who lived on Flemming road. My dad and I moved
into St Andrews Tower when it was first built and I stayed till 1970. My
sister lived on Darwin
Drive then moved to Farady road. My dad later lived in the seniors
building before he passed away. My sister now lives in Lincolnshire so I
have no family in Southall and have not been back there for a number of
years. Sometimes it is better to remember how things were and the good
times.
... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
best wishes to your sister say hi.perhaps she went to dormers..eventide elderly home..at telford faraday rd.just left by mound
as you go out to dormers wells lane many yrs there is now ..my aunt
worked quite few yrs they loved her she loved them.there...mt pleasant
hospital for elderly by north rd off Allendale 60s 70s..now .flats new
built there
- Re: PREFABS
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jan-2014
I think there was a lot to
be said for prefabs a friend of dads lived in one at the
top of Lady Marg. Rd it always seemed warm & comfortable
& had the basic modcons we have today, they would
certainly help with to days housing problems in a more modern
form. I cant say anyone i knew who lived in them complained.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
yes people liked many came from
bad conditions and they were new neat....no brick.cavity wall.roofing
loft.british standard house build though..just asbestos sheets
screwed...one tiny little miniature fire cover glass door coal..in
living room...snow ice rain wind.not the warm of proper brick.good
hse..wish population not grown so massive then not so much need
housing.hospitals gps school roads traffic
jobs.police crime etc.prisons delay court cases etc massive
problems...then not need more houses so much.built on every blade of
grass.tiny england ... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 7-Jan-2014
My aunt and uncle lived in
Fleming road, Fred and Win Robinson. I really enjoyed visiting as a
child as the pre-fabs had a homely feeling. Also the wood burners sent
out lots of heat in winter.
Having visited the flat they were given for relocation, I understand why they went to Australia.
- Re: PREFABS
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
Happy childhood in the prefabs, a
bit cold in the winter but had everything you could need, a fridge in
those days was a luxury. Lots of cupboards and storage space - an odd
cupboard I remember in one of the bedrooms that somehow pulled down at
the front, cant remember exactly how. Pull down wooden table in the
kitchen. Domed shed in the back garden. Have pictures taken outside.
The Kimmins in Fleming
Road - Lynne Kimmins who lived in Faraday Road was my friend in the same
class as me in Dormers Wells. I lived in second parade, near to
Redcroft Road. Seems Facebook page is mostly people who lived in the
flats. Plan on Southall Board shows white rows of prefabs but no road
names. Haldane Road must have been the road parallel to Redcroft Road
and our prefab was in between the two. Electoral Rolls show who was
living in each one. ... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
Where was Panhard Place?
- Re: PREFABS
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
1951 Osborne Road - Knight, Williams, Coxon, Scanes, Webster, White, Torrance, Wheelwright.
- Re: PREFABS
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jan-2014
Hi Carol why dont you post your prefab pics on Fickr.
- Re: PREFABS
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jan-2014
Yvonne i think something is
going to have to be done in the future about population
growth even if people don agree with it.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
after the horse has bolted though denis..so many yrs..stop control before it happened.small land compared to others land.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
enlarge plan of southall
board.your corner there......I have copied road names for you.above here
comment for you... it is plan east north corner..lucky to get that from
barry...council plan..yes pull down table useful used daily gas
fridge..cold asbestos screwed sheets exterior walls only..facebook..at
least 6 there who lived in prefabs.pre 1970.ealing library would have
more prefab rds info for you...photo
kids playing on lawn centre prefabs tree there 1961 ish 1950s.photo of
flattened prefabs with 1st tower built Gleneagles ...1947 aerial photo
new estate all prefabs show all over ..out to left west side Darwin
longridge.on extra green out that way. ..on aerial photo1947 ish..in
southall board...yes love to see your photos carol.if you put on facebk
site or do a flickr page like denis did...free...we can all see in
google ... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
1951 Osborne prefabs...the 1957
around. around those yrs dormers was our chris pudney was there.several
of us classes there through yrs..1954 infants opened dormers.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
penhard place still there..out on
the green .outer bit west from prefabs..at longridge lane .side..now 3
bedroom semi detached house for sale penhard £270000..my friend dormers
lived just by there 1950s.60s with gran..diane squires.ballet danced
many yrs.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
carol..... Lynnette while is lynn ware..she lived Osborne 1951 went to new infant school ..and seniors dormers.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
carol..on friends reunited site
going for over 10 yrs now..is photo of Gerald kimmins 197/8 southall
tech .school..she may be on there..lots dormers girls on there all yrs
all classes photos memories,,.redcroft 2..was just by 8th parade .row of
6/8 prefabs .on the plan..says it..bunny park was good.quick easy path
.tube bridge .lawns hill to animals café st mary church high
spire.cricket pavilion.golf....tube..bridge over brent.windmill lane to Greenford shops red lion demolished nov 2012. ... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
1957/8
- Re: PREFABS
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
Yvonne, thanks. I am still in contact with Lynne Kimmins, remember her brother Gerald. He took photos of us in their garden.
- Re: PREFABS
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
As I remember it, I think
Redcroft Road ran from one end to the other of the estate. Each end
were two brick walls with entrance in middle (pedestrians) and then an
oval shaped flower tub (no flowers). Denis, I dont know how to post
pictures and they dont show that much of the prefabs (just scruffy
gardens haaa) one shows shed in back.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
in google map redcroft...shows it
north to south.the length prefabs estate west side..to prefab
parades.which.came east from it..walk the path.along 8th parade 7th
parade..of front doors or prefabs...redcroft along side so along
Greenford rd..length..go across to path to bunny pk golf links cricket
pavilion.brent hanwell lodge.good photo of Gerald.with his class mates
1957/8
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
Haldane rd in google map.still
there runs down the middle from .fleming rd...by Greenford rd edge of
redcroft is where they built 1st tower bloke Gleneagles..then by there
along by redcroft built high tower st Andrews.flats views from top
- Re: PREFABS
by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 7-Jan-2014
The Kimmins on Flemming road did
have cousins around the corner. No one of them was Lyn. Visited the
Kimmins in Australia when I was there on holiday, Pat went out there
first, then Mr and Mrs Kimmins followed. Christine married my first
husbands cousin but after they divorced she went to Australia too. My
sister lived on Faraday road in a house that the Bartons lived. There
were lots of boys in that
family. When my dad and I moved to St Andrews Tower the Websters lived
on the same floor, 2nd. I only have only kept in touch with Cathy Mogg
who lived in Telford road, lost touch with everyone else. Would love to
hear from anyone who remembers me and anyone who knows Dave Coles from
Allenby Road. ... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
Yes, Pat Kimmins was cousin - Lynne was Gwendalynne
- Re: PREFABS
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 8-Jan-2014
Yes I lived at 7 Dormers Rise and
as child had a great time there until I'd say about 1961 when we moved.
Such great playing areas & of course all the mischief you could get
up to on the golf links. The ranger Mon-Fri was Popey from memory but
on the weekends it was my Dad and you had to be very careful not to be
spotted by him. "Did I see you near the lake on the 9th hole?" "No Dad
that wasn't me" I'm seeing him this Saturday so I'll ask him if he remembers. ... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
best wishes to your dad..the tube
bridge.over the river brent,boles bridge was a good sight as we went up
the hill to bunny pk seeing the church spire high on the hill ahead
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
Pauline....bankside
etc.....http://www.geolocation.ws/v/W/File:Southall%20Gasometer%20from%20the%20Merrick%20Road%20-%20geograph.org.uk%20-%201165247.jpg/-/en
- Re: PREFABS
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Jan-2014
When were the prefabs first
built? When I used to wheel our old pram with some of my brothers and
sisters in it across the Greenford road, having walked through Dormers
Wells from Northcote Avenue, it was just the Golf Links and lots of
grass and trees. Not a prefab in sight. In fact, I can't remember ever
having seen any at all. We used to call it Hanwell Park in those days,
and spent many happy hours
there while my brothers swam or paddled in a river, often swinging on a
large rope. I had to keep a very wary eye on them, especially my eldest
brother as he was very daring! We were always tired out on the way
home, stopping at the small streams cleaning ourselves up a bit. ... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 8-Jan-2014
Weren't they built just after the war? We moved there in 1949 and moved out when they were demolished which I think was 1964.
- Re: PREFABS
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Jan-2014
That would have probably been
right Carol, as I had to leave school in 1945, aged 14, to earn my keep
and wouldn't have been taking the children to Hanwell Park then.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
1947 gazette had 1st couple move in...my aunt uncle moved in just around after then.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
yes carol around 1964..yes sure 64/5 .think photos of flattened in google 1969/70.new tower gone up flats Gleneagles
lots prefabs ..and local areas .of them were built by german
/Italian.prisoners war..some stayed on England after war.prefabs says
for men with families.. coming home from war..part of the idea.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
Pauline please....1950s.Edmunds
store southall broadway ..do you know where abouts have tried in index
or google.....Edwards old shop yr 1900 in old photo up by butlers but
old photo...thanks..
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
got note in google Edmonds ltd southall and Edmonds ltd Feltham.1977.think they are closing then
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
Edmonds along north side broadway
along towards butlers was it....got google.hounslow high st .had
Edmonds 3 floors with lift then later became escalator.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
meant south side......Edmonds
along towards butlers..1950..was it Edmonds store.shops .herbert rd is
along there on south side.junction.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
think that's where it
was..Edmonds chain of stores they had the cash tube fly across top of
shop to cashier cash .and change came back on wire tube.where money was
put in..for customer
- Re: PREFABS
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Jan-2014
I don't ever remember seeing a
store called Edmonds up near Butlers Yvonne. The only large store was
Clifford Evans, but that was next to a Ladies Hairdressers and Lloyd's
Bank on the corner of Herbert Road.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
thanks Pauline 1977 closing in
google says .Edmonds chain store southall..Feltham..and Hounslow had big
one....thanks.1950 I think....got messon 1950 sweet shop etc..along
there by bank..thanks..Edmonds had overhead tube cash change money by
tube .wizz across.chain stores.of edmonds.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
got it...southall broadway south
side.1950 ish.yrs...Clifford evans taken over by Edmonds.store
drapers..wool upstairs...zoom change cash tubes fell into disuse...acton
high st in google Clifford evans was taken over by Edmonds
store..Hounslow high st 50s 60s 70s had 3 story Edmonds store
- Re: PREFABS
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Jan-2014
Good piece of detective work!
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
thanks yes gt...to get lists of
all decades..where changes of broadway..would be so nice...a few decades
along...south side north side..acton was taken over by them so sure
southall was..people remember it being along same place in 1950s..messon
sweet shop next to it..one person lived above macfisheries along there
1950
- Re: PREFABS
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Jan-2014
You've only got to look at close
up, aerial views of Southall today, such as google earth etc, to see if
proof were ever needed, that we now have a major problem, and local
councils are frightened to deal with it because it will be deemed to be
discrimination
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
photo of the golf links estate
flats etc.all women kids babies out with banners insisting on safety a
crossing they needed..got it so
success..petition.parade.protest.campaign
- Re: PREFABS
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 9-Jan-2014
We lived at 23 Dormers Rise,
happy memories as we had an allotment to the rear of the three prefabs
backing onto the golf course. Left when I was 9 to move into 127
Northcote Ave.
God it was cold in the winter there, just a small Rayburn type Fire in
the lounge, yes it was great to have a Gas fired fridge in the kitchen.
and the fold down table.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
yes gt use of fold table gas
fridge ..yes chair each side tiny little coal fire..rayburn
thanks...nice separate toilet bathroom.2 bedroom.no brick eng standard
contruct insulation walls just asbestos screw ..ice snow rain cold of
winter no loft etc...dormers rise rd still there..the rd..refurbish work
going on estate now...loads money being spent..yes allotments..
- Re: PREFABS
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 9-Jan-2014
Everyone who lived in the prefabs
seems to have happy childhood memories. I know I had lots of freedom
to roam over the golf links, the bunny park etc. Just looking through
photos I have and can see the spire of the church in background. Brick
wall entrance used to be meeting place for us kids, playing ball games,
hopscotch, skipping - the road was playground, not many cars to bother
about then. Great for roller skating - there used to be a slope by the side of the green, great fun. ... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jan-2014
Hi Thompson - You must have lived
on the same side as we did, Number 153 Northcote Avenue, about 13
houses away! We moved out in 1952. What years did you live there and who
were your neighbours?
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
yes slope and wall at little row
shops in dip hollow at faraday rd towards telford rd..no cars 1950s
60s..wages just payed rent food etc..bike.walk...spire still looks gt
ahead as go from tube boles bridge over river brent up to bunny pk..more
animals..zoo.and indoor bit creatures... monkeys etc..new maze in
google 2000 yr.there with same old.icecream café..yes kids walked to
school and played safe
50s 60s.prefabs.1966 ours had moved from demolition.1947 built 1st moved
in.gazette photo of 1st couple family to move in.greenford shops were
nice walk.walk to ironbridge lots extra buses today
... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
1964 ours had moved out yes defo
demolish yrs..photo is of 6 kids playing on that centre greens area
middle of prefabs estate middle area of all the blocks.prefabs large
greens grass area.photo 1949 ish 1950s if.of kids by .large trunk large
tree.if kids names are guessed at known..think it is on fb also the
photo.kids 3to 6 yr old s .boys girls.nice neat kids as was usual so
often those yrs..huge
open areas.nice corner of southall.open airy.huge fields of hanwell
etc..primary sch dormers in gt green fields hill there..cherry trees
blossom..show my street in google shows little bit change there but not
much..allotment in springs dip at entrance to junior school.caretaker
hse there..wall in bridge playground ball game hand
stands against playground wall.2 floors classrooms. ... more >>
- Re: PREFABS
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 9-Jan-2014
Pauline we move into Northcote in
about !953 I moved out in the early 1960's when I got married but mum
dad and Flo Rowbottom my nan stayed untill the late 1960's. "Ruffy" died
in 1958/59.
The Hilliers were our neighbours, I worked on a Saturday with two of the daughters at thier uncles bakery in Osterley.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
pre 1958 if ruffy used northcote
pub most..did....my uncles.aunts gdad knew rowbottom.he came in our hse
couple times .after they had chatted as usual at table hour at the
northcote pub......nan died 1961..saloon bar ..men used front public
bar..lounge gt ballroom grand piano along the back.
- Re: PREFABS
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
bakery....there was one..top west
side northcote ave broadway 1930s...high walls in photos.the walls were
hot to touch from bakery hot cooking ovens baking..1900s it was there
old photos shows the wall huge letters advert huge at the huge brick
wall there..says 1907 mr crouch..won prizes baking..wedding cakes
etc..did turog health brown bread prize 1907 yrs..think they were german
and got interned 1st
war..but 1930s hot walls there baking ..heat to the touch as go by. top
west corner of northcote ave at the broadway.junction ... more >>
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 9-Jan-2014
Was Flo Rowbottom any relation to Arthur Rowbottom. He married my aunt? They had two children, Arthur and Valerie.
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 9-Jan-2014
They lived in West Avenue
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
when he comes back he put.on site
mths ago that .they were of west ave and Greenford ave as well
yes..mine used to be friends of theirs at local pub.northcote
arms
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 9-Jan-2014
I just found out that Arthur
Ernest Rowbottom who married my aunt was the brother of George Henry
Rowbottom who married Florence (Flo)
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jan-2014
Yes Thompson - I remember the
Hilliers. They were a nice family and my brother David was very friendly
with Cecil Hillier. In fact they used to go out fishing, and on my
brother's 15th birthday in 1951, they caught a massive Pike at Poyle
Pitts, on the other side of Colnbrook, weighing 25 lbs 5 ounces and 35
inches long. They had to get the Bailiff to weigh it and record it
officially. They entered
it in the "News of the World" competition hoping to win the prize rod
and reel of the week, but sadly for them someone had topped them by a
Pike weighing 2 ounces heavier! After cuttting up the Pike, which had
been in the bath for all their mates to admire it, they shared it
amongst their friends for a tasty dinner. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jan-2014
Yes, I remember the long wall
which ran alongside the bakery at the top of Northcote Avenue in the
1930's. I was only a little girl, and when I used to go past the baker's
wall with my mum, I would feel it, and it was always hot in the evening
and you could hear the crickets chirping, and the lovely smell of bread
baking. On the opposite side of the road was Mrs Pocock's fruit and
vegetable stall and the famous billiard hall. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
yes billiards..in streetview .can
see they kept architecture point at roof etc..of the original structure
1900s 1912 electric theatre cinema..can smell the bread bakers you are
always such lovely read......good find carol..bert or whatever nicknames
shortening of Christian names..jack roach and rowbottom were the
friends at northcote pub 1950s and yrs before..was of his that was
chimney sweep at 77
Greenford ave.ve day party huge crowd on tressels along houses there in
street .party food kids neighbours.adults good photo.1945 may..and also
spikes bridge rd party ve day tables kids etc photo.. ... more >>
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 9-Jan-2014
Yvonne you might know this - do
you know what number was Dr Cohn's house. I see on google street view
that the houses are still there but the rest of that area has changed so
much. Just past the pub was a parade of shops - I used to take bottles
back to the off licence and at the post office got savings stamps - you
know the ones with Prince Charles and Princess Ann on.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
yes parade shops still
there..post office..stone mason on green there for Greenford cemetery up
windmill lane...bp garage there...white hart demolished several yrs
ago..long yrs derelict land..then yr ago block flats built
there...cohn..along that same row houses ..half way along....so walk
from prefabs to traffic lights..and row of 1920s 30s built houses he was
half way along.but he and family lived
lady marg rd.he died yr 2000..his son became doctor...cohn specialised
in psychiatry he wrote and helped asylum.st bernards got big photo cohn
age 50ish off google..he was away at
war then started southall after demob war..good man doc...across traffic
lights was 1970 butcher across there for yrs..row shops also across rd
there..Greenford rd. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
fb golf links estate site would know what number he was there 70s 80s also...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
our doctors have our original doc
papers in our brown envelopes..you are allowed to see read your
own..childhood says cohn..and would be address of him there...docs pass
medical notes on lifetime as you move..ealing local hist library would
know his house number post office directory they have and also elect
role there..going way back.street view don't suppose still doc there
estate now has its own long time youth club,,sports.,church..surgery etc..all on site estate land there... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
little post office book..add
1950s 60s.little bits in the little books..premium bond..pence life
insurance on kids and adults til they mature..penny back on bottle buy
arrowroot biscuit...2 p back on corona bottle lorry crates came
around..pop drinks fizz.
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 10-Jan-2014
I always knew Ruffy's brother as
Daniel, he was a slaughter, and an RSPCA inspector. Yes lived in west
ave. The Rowbottoms had two sisters Alice & Rose.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
ruffy Daniel .must be ones friends of my family west ave.
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 10-Jan-2014
My Aunt Ame lived at No. 17 West
Avenue and before that in Hammmond Road. When first married they lived
in Tudor Road. She was the one who had the problem of getting me home
when I didn't get the school bus home from Tudor Road school when I was
about 5 - decided to go home with a friend instead.
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 10-Jan-2014
Yvonne - thanks for the info. Those brown envelopes with doctors notes - do they include details about your birth as well?
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 10-Jan-2014
Across the road from the White
Hart and to the left of the parade of shops, I'm sure there used to be a
rubbish tip or landfill. When we had been playing over the golf links
and bunny park, we sometimes came back that way and ended up walking
alongside this smelly tip to get back onto the Greenford Road. We then
used to go to the sweet shop opposite and get sweets or jubbly. Anybody
else remember or am I imagining things. ... more >>
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by penny (Member 10265839) on 10-Jan-2014
Are the Rowbottoms mentioned any
relation to Roy Rowbottom, born 1946/7 who moved to almost the end house
of Brent Road/Western Road opposite the lovely little cafe where the
105 bus drivers used to go for refreshments? He attended Southall
Grammar School in the early 60s.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
jubbly yes 50s 60s...up Greenford
rd east right side..huge many yrs and now ...council refuse..tip..so
north of golflinks fields east side...on streetview..brown envelope are
the ones we saw filed .nurse got our of file gave him...they are passed
on to each doc as you move.....cards say doc name address.yrs.you
attended .measles mumps..hospital tonsils..he sends you
for..dates.....BIRTH some were at
home some were Hillingdon hospital..nhs would may have records...but
archive oh well time staff or how they can supply to people.must be hard
for them unless gp requests for serious problem.......money millions of
us..doubt they can have staff payed to.chat history to
you...............don't know.midwife district nurse attends..don't know
if on your general GP card that he has at his surgery....only this card
is passed on to your current GP. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
west ave built 1928...7/9 top
west right side.weedon..........23.on west side..your 17
ame.......16...east side towards top..14boyland widow with 2/3 spinster
daughters 40s 50s 60s...18 was elsie bob cornell 30s 40s 50s 60s son
daughter married live away...dan rowbottom west ave think around middle
area near east ave junction..end west ave spikes pk..friends reunited
has under places section.southall
roads with members neighbours names yrs memories ages..contact
facility..over 10 yrs now site there...places groups has jobs firm
southall list people worked there yrs memories contact.schools there yrs
ages names memories etc teachers pupils.etc ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
carol heard that they bused
kids...prefab etc estate.1947 onwards yrs new.but.dormers primary opened
sept 1954 ..so before bus to tudor rd..then change schools.later..north
rd primary busy school oldest southall school 1850 opened
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 10-Jan-2014
Penny, yes Roy Rowbottom was connected to same family.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
roy on facebook index members..southall grammar class 1963
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by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 10-Jan-2014
Yes Carol, I remember that. Quite a long walk back to the prefabs.
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Jan-2014
My memories of the walk to the
golf links and beyond to Hanwell Church go back to the 30's and 40's.
From Dormers wells lane there was an access to the fields/links actoss
to the MillPond.Then across the Greenford Road thence via the links to
Hanwell Church
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 10-Jan-2014
Michael - do you remember there
used to be a playground of sorts (swings I think) down by the Hanwell
Viaduct close to the river. My memories of this are vague, I think my
sister took me when I was very young. They then moved the playground to
a fenced off area where we used to go when I was older. Did anybody
else try to cross the bridge underneath swinging hand over hand?
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
millpond often fishing aec sports
club used it for fishing...viaduct gt high walk with rolling down
green hill there .scouts war memorial .was old bandstand there Connolly
dell...footpath going down under through viaduct out to uxbridge
rd..footpath by brent river going through there and river going under
brent river ballastrade.bridge at uxbridge rd.hanwell border
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
they have got the modern playarea
fenced off also..rubber ground for safety .youtube film in google
of.those baby toddler square seat swings. roundabout slide climb
frame.at.bunny pk viaduct areas..so much chat of wigwam.or witches hat
seen modern one built it is nice
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Jan-2014
There are pictures of bunny park area on my Flicker site d.sexton428.
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Jan-2014
Great pictures Denis. I went back
to the Bunny Park in the 90s but stupidly didn't take any photos. I
remember the new bridge being built over the river after the old brick
built one collapsed I think. Part of the old bridge still stayed in the
river for years after. Is it still there?
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
only remember the tube structure
bridge over the brent river on the path walk from prefabs .the after the
bridge stroll up the green hill to café and bunny park rabbits in
cages.small monkeys in cage..going out of the lych gate bunny park path
out onto the view to viaduct down below with brent river running out to
uxbridge rd.and hanwell stone bridge .buses going over with its
ballastrade
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
boles bridge metal tube design bridge still there.
http://www.mazefind.co.uk/cgi-bin/cms/ohra.pl?content_id=1226580660
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Jan-2014
Yvonne, really interesting
reading about the boundary stones. Never knew it was called Boles
Bridge. Would be interesting to know what the bridge looked like before
the new one. Obviously the crossing goes back a long way. Wish now
that I had been more interested in local history as a child. I do
remember looking around the headstones by the church and reading them so
there must have been some interest I suppose. ... more >>
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Jan-2014
Pictures of the Bunny Park on here http://www.flickr.com/photos/damiancorbet/9571774030/
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Jan-2014
Picture of Boles Bridge and Viaduct flooding pre 1919 on e-bay for sale
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Jan-2014
Couple of other photos show that Boles Bridge was a wooden structure in early 1900s.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
thanks for flickr and
photos..yes.ancient carved boundary stone near boles bridge ..hanwell
meets norwood southall of ancient dormans wells manor house
estate...1950s walked tube bridge boles bridge...is it different one
1990s when you went...we went back once but car around by church .so did
not see memory of boles bridge..fine construction cast iron tubes.have
they changed it carol.thanks best wishes x
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
yes got photos our southall
board7 and 4 ..wood bridge of yr 1900 with spire church in
background..1920s30s new bridge replacement by tube engineering company
.cast iron metal bridge we all crossed 1950s etc,,with spire
ahead....thnk it is still same tube bridge now strong..snow photos at
boles.bowles bulls bridge names..yes romans had crossing of river brent
around...old brick sides of tube caste iron.metal tubes.main footbridge to bunny pk. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
http://edithsstreets.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/riverbrent-thebrent-flows-south-and.html
2008 snow toboggan snowballs photo still same boles tube bridge as we had 1950s
http://hanwell-labour.blogspot.co.uk/2007/02/winter-wonderland-in-brent-river-valley_17.html
2013 still same tube boles bridge as we used 1950s to bunny pk..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brighton/9473056312/sizes/k/in/photostream/
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
info.bridge brent river hanwell
etc...Greenford Perivale sticketon bridge...boles bridge,.,,hanwell
ballastrade bridge...gallows bridge...and boundary
stones...http://www.mazefind.co.uk/cgi-bin/cms/ohra.pl?content_id=1226580660
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
wood bridge photo..1900s ..1930
ish around yrs....tubewrights ltd company tube bridge metal.Newport
Monmouth .large letters in it .photos .in flickr by misty..boles bridge
bunny pk...still there strong..churchfields hanwell photos etc in
google..6th arch medieval of old uxbridge rd bridge hanwel..yrs ish
1900s new tram..need strengthen.so ballastrade new arch es..stone bridge
widen built.for new idea
trams....medieval arch they say still there..but there is a footbridge
arch .under uxbridge rd there when brent not flooding
...http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=bowles+bridge+hanwell
... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Jan-2014
Carol-yes I too have vague memories of the playground.Happy Days
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
denis....your home guard...did
you hear of southall bill odriscoll born bred top lady marg rd..lived
opposite taylor Woodrow..walked to school 1947 Greenford primary..his
dad home guard killed 1943 nov..walter...6th middx bttn.home guard he
would love to know more of them..where could he find out.about
anything.....walter was doing duty at factory wen he was killed .buried
south ealing cemetery .
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Jan-2014
Thanks Yvonne trying to find
Home Guard records are very difficult but he mite be in a
better position to find out more as his father was a
casualty. He could try the M.O.D personnel records, public
records office Kew, Also local records. Death certificate or
the parish register where he is buried, Home Guard records are
very sketchy or non
extent but there is a short web site that gives some
details of areas battalions ect. mite be of help with
addresses to contact just enter Home Guard & it should cum
up. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
yes just his battalion he was
interested in.and gereal info home guard...homeguard his dad was lived
top lady marg rd opposite taylor Woodrow at Ruislip rd..north side..1943
died at factory he was on duty at..buried south ealing
cemetery..thought he might have been same battalion as yours....he was
39 yrs old...Osterley pk annual reinactment might know or who to get
to..as local .men they all were..yes mod..and kew..November 1943.thanks..denis best wishes ... more >>
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 12-Jan-2014
Penny yes Roy Rowbottom is my
cousin I was with him Friday 10th January, as it was Les Rowbottom's
funeral; who was his dad and my uncle. Les's wife Phyllis is still alive
but frail.
Les & Phil lived in Clarence St and moved to Brent Rd.
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 12-Jan-2014
Us Thompsons and Rowbottoms were
members of Southall Swimming Club. Doll Thompson was President of both
the swimming club and the boxing section of the Actonian Club. Members
of the swimming club attended Les's Funeral. Plus Three of Roy's Four
wives.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Jan-2014
Thanks Yvonne Osterley Pk. good idea, as far as i know dad
was in the 10 Middx battalion & also did fire watching
duties when he worked for Landis & Gyr on the Western Ave
at Acton
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 13-Jan-2014
Hi Thompon
I used to bowl (tenpin) with Roy Rowbottm but more so his sister Maureen
who was either in my year or one year below at Southall Grammar. Very
happy days.
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by penny (Member 10265839) on 13-Jan-2014
Hi Fred,
When were you at Southall Grammar? I was there from 1958 - 1963 but
although I knew Roy, your name doesn't ring a bell. Do you remember the
brothers Keith and Barrie Mead who were into football in a big way?
Can't find any trace of either of them.
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 13-Jan-2014
Hi Fred, Roy was an only child.
Did Play at the bowl with young Tony Mercer, his dad Tony senior from
the Black & White Minstrels. the bowling team was also called that.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jan-2014
My goodness, that takes me back,
Tony Mercer in the "Black & White Minstrel" show. He was the
baritone, and the show ran for 20 years. It was wonderful to watch and
listen to that music. Happy days.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jan-2014
we watched all on tv ..good
singalong..music song..gt..dance..emi records cousin worked we had the
LPs...took my aunt to Victoria theatre London..full hse gt show of
them..gt.amazing live show....fred told us of sad ..mercer death..it was
interesting to read fred a yr or so ago...king st area southall..son
and mercer senior..fred chatted .they lived and fred knew
them..marvellous..swan pub many people remember king st east been religious centre long time now in same structure though..
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 13-Jan-2014
Penny, I was at Southall Grammar
from 1961-1966 so a bit younger than you but I also bowled with Tony
Mercer and went to his house next to the White Swan a few times
expecially for parties whilst Tony senior and Tony's Mum were away.
As to Maureen (Rowbottom?) I must have got her (& Roy) mixed up as
siblings because although I remember Roy and he was a couple of years
older than me, I thought it
was he (& his sister) who lived in Park Ave but as someone has
already said Roy did not live in Park Ave so I wonder which family
Maureen belongs to who bowled at Southall & went to Southall
Grammar. She was certainly in our bowling group which also included
Graham West brother to Maureen & Mick West. It looks like this other
Maureen's surname will remain a mystery.
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Jan-2014
Ah ha I've remembered it was Dave
Drury who lived in Park Ave and had the sister Maureen. Dave was a mate
of Roy whereas though we were friendly with them Maureen was more our
age.
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by penny (Member 10265839) on 14-Jan-2014
Mick West was in my class for a couple if years. I believe he was friends with Mick Hinge.
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 14-Jan-2014
I remember David Dury and
Maureen. They lived in Oswald Road in the 1950s. They had older
brother Brian. They are related to my husband..their mother Violet was
my husbands cousin. Chris x
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jan-2014
photo graham Maureen west on friends reunited site group friends 1963 at southall grammar.
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by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 14-Jan-2014
Hi there Fred, Graham here, who used to work behind the machines at the bowling alley.
Now I may stand corrected, but I think we used to have a Dave Drury work with us down the back.
Remember Graham West in the leagues, I used to bowl in a couple there, and also at Hounslow.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jan-2014
its back on..pm off..sent email to them
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Jan-2014
Yes Graham, I remember Dave
worked down the back with you, in what I think we called "The Engineers
Room" but I could be wrong about that term. I think it was 12 lanes
downstairs & 12 lanes upstairs.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jan-2014
wondered where today..remembered Feltham near heathrow bowling quite few yrs now.there
https://www.tenpin.co.uk/our-company/site-map/
£1.50
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by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 15-Jan-2014
Yes Fred, you are right, it was split level, 12 on each.
"Engineers Room" it was everything really, needed somewhere to get away
from the noise, and to brew up of course. When there were leagues on, on
both floors, one of us used to stay upstairs to fix any problems
quicker, otherwise we used to stay in the room, as most of the leagues
were downstairs.
Normally in the evening there would only be
one guy on duty, but if something came up, which he needed help with,
one of us would be floating around somewhere, mainly me in the bar. I
did a spell at Golders Green as Assistant Chief, then came back to
Southall as Chief Engineer. I replaced Ernie Randall who moved to Head
Office.
Oh happy days. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Jan-2014
Just received an e-mail from
Florida this morning and their temperature was 42 degrees Farenheit (5.5
Centigrade). That's a bit cold for Florida! What's it like where you
are?
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2014
Australia having 42 etc temp..andy murray did well with Australia tennis even though temperature terrible.
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Jan-2014
In Melbourne we had 44 deg
Centigrade for most of this week or 111.2 deg Farenheit, thankfully
today (Saturday) is only going to be 23c.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2014
44 even more..here tv last few days here said 42 melbourne
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jan-2014
its back.over night etc
off...nestle hayes 1913.staff move out summer 2014..gazette..transfer to
tutbury staffs.they have derbys.they have york..and Croydon..and
Carlyle over many yrs.propose 700 homes on 38 acre site...white art deco
front grand tower entrance.lots windows photo nestle hayes
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Jan-2014
When I worked at EMI in Hayes and
then lived there for two years after we were married in the 50's, it
was lovely to catch the smell of coffee from the Nestles factory which
could be seen clearly from the road. I think we could smell chocolate
sometimes, but it was mostly the coffee.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jan-2014
think smelt sweets too sugar treacle smell...tall narrow chimneys they had at hayes.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jan-2014
lots as usual saw midwife new
series last night..tv saw flannelette sheets.several trying to find them
to buy today..my aunt west ave put them through mangle twice then on
high tall line thick to dry .nice though.50s 60s etc.
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Arrow Hart
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by ben miller (Member 10290646) on 29-Dec-2013
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Does anybody know where the old Arrow Hart factory was located? My
parents worked there and relocated to Plymouth when the firm moved in
1972. Both are dead now and I have no family left in Southall/London to
ask.
Which road? What became of the site etc.
Thanks for any pointers or help.
Ben
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
arrow electric switches southall
green.often on this site .13 yrs of these daily comments..and short page
has arrow memories.and friends reunited has group..place as workplace
section there..if that helps.think they talked of going plymouth
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
graham of southall grammar talks of it in google hart and move to Plymouth..http://uk.linkedin.com/in/grahamcowperthwaite
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
arrow hart patent.plastics.1976 Plymouth seems 1971 southall then move...http://www.patents.com/us-4067529.html
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
with cooper..http://www.admiredelectroniccomponents.com/line-card/additional-manufacturers/arrow-hart.html
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
in google quite bit.http://www.bing.com/search?q=arrow+hart&form=CMNTDF&pc=CMNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
carol woods denise blake worked
there 1964 to 8..said arrow electric switches moved to Plymouth.on our
site here back they spoke..frith photos memories site in google .people
who worked there also..and friends reunited site has members who worked
there site in google.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
in google says mum worked
there...it was near aeradio offices.which was northhyde by western rd
canal bridge junction northhyde rd going west to hayes..junction
southall lane going south to cranford..opposite wood yard.1960s..1960
new aeradio built by there for
BA..http://mikecurley.simoncjwalker.net/mjc/Papsy-Worked/worked.htm
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
several worked there 60s.it is
bit further along from aeradio.but near.it is west.at the junction
scotts rd and brent rd.opposite crown cork huge high long office
block..all gone now..but on street view in google you can see rds..mr
suffield was manager..usa company..several bits in google..junction pub
and Scotsman pub the 2 local ones.north area off canal.southall
green.lots terraced row houses roads there.for several factories.brent rd famous kearley tongs biscuitjam factory. ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
old buses in google...weekdays
split division.105 brent rd peak time down to arrow electric switches
workplace.105 bus..http://www.londonbuses.co.uk/routes/105.html
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
in google rush hr bus 105 1968 to
1973 went arrow switches factory.rush hr.brent rd junction scotts
rd..http://www.eplates.info/100s.html
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
1949 usa..expired 1992..has southall had paris etc.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
http://www.trademarkia.com/ah-arrow-hart-71583462.html
http://industrialelectricsstore.com/arrow-hart/
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
lots photos of what is there now
in google..also street view..brent park industrial estate brent rd
junction scott rd here.post code ub2 5lj...warehouses factory
area.freight
etc..http://www.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/international-freight-16336927.html
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
says 5 acre site factory
office.opened in 1961.it came from hanger
lane...http://edithsstreets.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/river-crane-southall-gas-works.html
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 30-Dec-2013
Arrow Switches was off Rubastic
Road at the junction of Brent Road and Scotts Road. I lived nearly
opposite at 138 Brent Road. My Aunt worked there for a few years after
moving from the Crown Cork factory which was the other side of the
junction. I worked there as a student one Summer, putting pieces of
metal through a micrometer to find a flawed batch and then pushing a
trolley around the factory
to pick up other components for quality testing. It was normally a job
given to someone with learning difficulties. Depending on the
department, I was constantly being instructed to either pull or push the
trolley. ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
yes rubastic in the map link
above//junction there..now the international freight estate .huge area
all there..west end of brent rd.nice photos in google..of the trading
estate.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by ben miller (Member 10290646) on 30-Dec-2013
I really must apologise for not
responding sooner, especially as you've put so much effort into helping
me with my request. Yesterday's windy weather took its toll on several
fence panels around my garden so I didn't have time to check for
replies.
Looking at the map of Rubastic/Brent/Scott roads would it be the big
empty space? I was 7 or so when I last went to see my father at work and
obviously I saw things
from a different level. Even the streetview looks unfamiliar to me but
for some reason the open space is in the correct location (in my mind as
I walk towards the factory).
I also remember waiting in the car with my Father and watching goods trains going across the bridge over the side road.
So, I think we have lift off, that is definitely the old site as I recall it.
Incidentally, the site occupied by Arrow Hart in Plymouth still shows
the factory in Google Maps even though it has since been demolished.
If you look at the satellite image from this link
http://goo.gl/maps/Y6L6j you will see the factory inside the Thorbury
Road boundary; if you then look at the streetview you will see the space
as-is today, occupied by cement works, storage and NHS.
Going back to the 1964-1972 period at Arrows, do anybody remember the
following families? The Campbells, the Littles, the Pearces, the Webbs
and what about the Desboroughs? Any takers? I know them all. ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
yes it was by rubastic
junction...bulls bridge canal junction to the left south...rail bridge
to the right.across to hayes station from southall station..gas holder
300 ft still there gas closed 1973..show my street in google is
good..Britain from the air 1940.in google.is good rubastic blue tags
there showing.factories .........and in google 1940 map of
southall.shows.all streets etc.canal etc
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
in google frith photos memories site..southall..has dave chapman worked there to 1972...
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
woods blake here worked there 60s 70..http://www.knowhere.co.uk/town/user_board/messages/2388
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
frith in google...mum of Russell
wileman worked there went to Plymouth with it...several went to
Plymouth.,,http://www.francisfrith.com/southall/memories/growing-up-in-southall_115121/#utmcsr=bing.com&utmcmd=referral&utmccn=bing.com
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
2nd click at this site showed
more..junction rubastic scotts rd brent rd..is sections of freight
warehouses etc.trading estate...griffin centre says..says.pallet ..says
Neptune wholesale..big main entrance from main rd bulls bridge off south
that way leads to m4 motorway..the entrance is trident way..going
through to brent rd..2012 street view july
cameras...http://www.cylex-uk.co.uk/map/international-freight-16336927-route.html
... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 31-Dec-2013
I have a couple of photographs
taken from our bedroom window looking across to what was Ticklers Yard
and with the Kearley and Tonge "tower" in the background (the
confectionary section). The yard used to be filled with barrels of fruit
pulp for the jam manufacture. Across the road from our house was a
ditch and a metal spiked fence. We used to pick blackberries there and
explore the large air raid shelters behind the fence. I have been interested to see the 1920/30s aerial photographs taken before our house was built. ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Dec-2013
yes bill Britain from air 1929
1930s 1940 photos in google..southall..gd..in google..would like see
your 2 photos ticklers kearly my nan aunt worked there through
yrs..........denis has flickr photoshis site.. we have southallboard
flickr photos in google....if you ever put your 2 photos be gt to see
..somehow
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Dec-2013
1928 tickler kearly from above etc etc...http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw021900
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Dec-2013
HAPPY NEW YR 2014 ALL....best
wishes to all...kearly olde jam ole deliver coal so many yrs from
birmingham warwicks.40 yr commem run..they do vintage runs..in
memory.dock into factory southall from canal.jam biscuits.1970 last
delivery close..one of last grand
union....http://issuu.com/waterwaysassoc/docs/waterways_summer_2010
article southall there
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 31-Dec-2013
I would like to echo Yvonnes greeting-Happy New Tear to you all.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Dec-2013
happy new yr 2014 mike..very best wishes to you..and everybody
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 31-Dec-2013
May I wish everyone a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
phyl you and your family friends happy new yr 2014..very best wishes xx
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 1-Jan-2014
Best wishes to all for 2014. The
north end of Brent Road ran between Ticklers (later Arrow Switches) on
the left and Crown Cork on the right. At the end it turned into a track
that crossed a branch railway line that went into Ticklers sheds. On the
right was a shed full of resin and we could collect lumps from beneath
the door. I think that the resin was used for manufacturing resin paper
(for insulation
purposes?). Between the railway line and the main Great Western Railway
were allotments. There is a tunnel under the main line with used to have
a small locked gate into the gasworks. It now gives access to the
parking facility for Heathrow. Scotts Emulsion factory was further along
the line towards London with a large advertising picture of a man with a
large fish. It was a well known landmark for those travelling by train
into London. ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
lovely bill have written that out
happy new yr you and all....my nan worked ticklers aunt oldejam ole
kearly brent rd..dock from canal coal came in for boiling jam...biscuits
etc..last run 190 they do memorial runs .info in google..warwicks
Birmingham..last runs southall 1970 grand union...famous..
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 1-Jan-2014
I hope that this works. see: www.cotswold.org/southall.html
How I wish that I had taken more photographs of the things that have now changed so much.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 1-Jan-2014
What brilliant pictures they are Bill. When would they have been taken? Happy new year to all.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Jan-2014
What am I doing wrong Bill as I can't get your pictures after copying your www.cotswold.org/southall.html
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
THANKYOU BILL LOVELY ONES..Pauline...with the dot...www.cotswold.org/southall.html
I just put all that in google it came up..happy new yr Pauline carol mike.denis bill.phyl.mike all.all.keith .chris.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
precious photos bill well
done...canal bridge.which one is that yrs perhaps 1950.photos...inside
gas gt..2 of mine worked to close 1970...ticklers nan kearly my
aunt..friends worked crown cork.car gt bill indicator running board
black type..l plate car gt..138 bent rd Dudley gt gardens windows ...in
google flickr southallboard....54 of 200 each ..over 3yrs
collection.some of your areas interest...dad
born cottages by old oak 1920s..worked Heston airport like your
southall lane...uncle worked southall factory women worked munitions
war..gdad gt gdad brickmaking laying1850 to 1930s and more.yrs northyde
southall green norwood green...graves like ours at Havelock..Osterley
hubby me been many times..gt stroll..always took photos..yes new m4
1960s yrs 1966 cousin bought sports car took it down new.m4 its 1st run
out..from Heston..then southall lane got its join there just after
cranford lane..high st....new hayes bypass built .oh.1990s ..to yeading
lane white hart junction Ruislip rd...emi some of ours worked they are
redevelop now..huge area.. ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
so arrow switch took over tickers
place your photo..good back gardens greenhouses..pub junction still
open fence there big tree still there..phyl lives along said..timber
yard there in your photo.there many yrs gone now..cranford we have
strolled often good..schools gd western rd .feathers..my gdad .uncle etc
went feathers.boys sch....over 3yrs collection in
google..flickr.southall board
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
click..me..and albums.bill...gt
your photography..and west England.ealing broadway local history library
for southall etc...gt photos mounted.collected .and all local history
books in his cabinet electoral rolls..maps all yrs..etc..dr oates
librarian 15 yrs there..gt knowledge he has written lots books.talks
given there of local.hist...projector.film photo.talks..speakers.invited
local hist as well.£5
evenings....so ticklers became arrow elect switches hart.1961 opened
came from hanger lane..left 1972...usa firm..catalogue of library may
have more info..the canal photo..it it uxbridge rd bridge hayes
bridge.thanks lovely bill .wonderful ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Jan-2014
I've highlighted exactly what
Bill and you have put in, and there is nothing coming up for the
Southall one. Perhaps it's my machine!
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
would they be mainly
1950..50s..couple 1960..bill.top lock gd..last yr hanwell flight etc
loads money new oak gates etc work done...new street view being done
grand union.tow path camera..will be in google...old boys entrance photo
Featherstone in flickr oin google..demolish..primary was turned
into..old people centre..so new feathers primary now western rd by brent
rd,with 1920 war names carved memorial
soldier on top by fence by pavement 105 bus stop there...lots swans
canal Egyptian geese.etc..new 3 bridges triangle park with seating wood
carved 3 bridges letters clever to brunel.norwood green fete
annualy..junction pub open road path to bulls bridge hayes
rd.tow..Dudley rd of kates mums family.with Clarence and spencer lived
1900 to 1967 and some more..they went to norwood green..kingsfield
rd.then by yrs 2000bucks.royal wedding party gazette Clarence st at
their old hse.posters.flags ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
I typed it in google..it comes up ok.with all the dots stops correct..
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
I typed it in address bar top left...or typed it all in google it came up.ok
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Jan-2014
Brilliant! It came up after
typing it in top address bar, but wouldn't do it when I typed it in
Google. Thanks for that Yvonne. The pictures are so clear.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Jan-2014
Happy new year to all on Southall message board.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
good Pauline.and.denis happy new yr
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 2-Jan-2014
I am glad the web page works. I
should have said that clicking on the small images will reveal larger
images. The Western Road picture with Hills paper shop also has next
door Mullenger's fish shop. Then there was a chemists shop. On the
opposite side of Western Road was Fowler's bakery with stables behind
for the horse drawn delivery carts. Opposite to Hills across
Featherstone Road was a barbers shop and it interesting that the premises are still in use for hair dressing. ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jan-2014
lovely thanks well known
mullinger fish.yes hair still hair..saw hills..the canal bridge which
one is it..good interiors gas..some more in google under gas coal
coke.southall being the largest.featherstone new modern high school
now..infants juniors old peoples centre in same preserved shape
architecture....so arrow went in the site of old ticklers.show my street
is good july2012 camera street view..phylis
lives many yrs along from junction.said old wood yard there many
yrs..old oak tree pub still open.rec still there.carnivals went off from
regina rd..western rd flexman coaches..the grave new modern by yours
looks like Robert Wallace martin..the famous martinware pottery Havelock
rd by canal to 1923.local hist society ceremony put 4 new curved modern
stones at their graves 2006..they are around the area of each other as
you go in Havelock rd entrance just near there..4 brothers. ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 3-Jan-2014
Re: my photos. I am still trying
to remember which canal bridge I photographed. One of the gasworks
photos was taken when I visited the gasworks as a schoolboy. The other
was amongst my Dad's stuff. Not sure how I chose what to photograph and
of course it was long before the convenience of digital cameras.
Somewhere among my other photos may be some other Southall images. I
have also bought a couple of interesting postcards which I will scan in due course. ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jan-2014
thanks will watch for your
scan..1950 some photos if some 1960...could be grass going up from top
lock to 3 bridges..fence either side.....of bridge........if windmill
lane..gt photos extremely grateful..........gt schoolboy go in gas..when
they built it 1930 german design biggest in Europe.300 ft high 6 old
pence go top..went to new southallnorwood hospital.closing now in
gazette
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jan-2014
1940s 50s derelict orphan
barracks south east corner western rd canal bridge..southall lane left
east side..1850 poor kids hundreds catholic st marys.ordinance house
lodge priests lived by canal.farm orchard they had ..but lots complaints
to today.everywhere..huge 14 ft war memorial 80 boys died 3 with
special brave medals..smashed gone by Ba 1952..demolished site old
parade ground barracks was seascouts....laburers
not supervised wrongly demolished huge statue war memorial..Heston
parish there .names should be added to Heston street memorial nothing
done.yrs complaints..did you see hear of demolish.all.aeradio office
built there1960 they used chapel as office 3 chapels had there 12 yrs
old kids sent to Canada slave labour farms ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Jan-2014
Yvonne when is Southall cottage hospital closing.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
in recent gazettes..everybody
waiting to see..planning in google of ealing council.also southall
libraru to go in dominion arts centre.for computers design
library...will let you know
- Re: Arrow Hart
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Jan-2014
Thanks Yvonne a bit more of Southall gone.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
warrens farm..in google..more
news this week..qpr taking for training ground..goes east there to
trumpers crossing..south bit near 3 bridges.lots in google
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Jan-2014
Yes, you're right about Southall
Cottage Hospital Dennis. I remember it with great affection when my dad
spent his last few weeks of his life in there. The Irish nurses who were
on the night shift were very caring, and let me sleep in a bed next to
my father the night before he died. I also remember Len Goddard talking
about the time when he was in there as a patient and his wife was
nursing there at the time!
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
memories.yours..len his wife.good...see in google lots of planning .hayes too .slow gradual.lots of plans.now getting more so
- Re: Arrow Hart
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Jan-2014
Pauline i remember going there when i cut my leg open 1955 but had to go to King Edwards in Ealing instead.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
now its ealing big
general hosp opposite viaduct ot Hillingdon hosp
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Jan-2014
I thought the big new Ealing
Hospital which replaced Edward V11 Hospital was built in the former
grounds of St Bernard's Hospital.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
yes opposite viaduct..duel
carriageway uxbridge rd there ..big entrance to hospital..old water
trough in the middle of road grass middle..some parts st bernards
preserved heritage couple building bits and chapel..the rest is housing
estate to the west right..called Osterley view and chivy
close..streetview is good..left east part is high tower wards of new
ealing hospital..over back old site land st
bernards towards 3 bridges..is maximum secure mental place of
criminals...its in google...left side east side arch old st bernards
modern buildings modern ealing general hospital. ... more >>
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
buses turn into modern hospital
at entrance of uxbridge rd from viaduct rail area..buses go into
hospital grounds for turn around.
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
they have to go to hillingdon hosp .or..new ealing hospital
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Jan-2014
Thanks for that Yvonne. Just had a quick look at Show my street Never seen so many cars!!
- Re: Arrow Hart
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jan-2014
yes lots cars rush hour even more so.best wishes.big redbuses go in the general hospital.
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Southall & Norwood Book
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by Carol (Member 10254505) on 14-Dec-2013
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Does anybody know where to obtain a copy of the book "Southall and
Norwood - A Portrait in Old Picture Postcards" by William J. Drinkwater,
published 1992.
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 15-Dec-2013
Copies don't seem to appear very
often, I picked mine up on ebay a couple of years ago, there was a copy
sold back in October 2013 which went for £37, seems the price has gone
up some since I got mine as I paid under £10. Amazon list it but it's
out of stock.
All I can suggest is to monitor the two to see if a copy turns up, but be prepared for a shock when it comes to price.
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 15-Dec-2013
Thanks Colin. My aunt has a copy
so I will have to tell her how valuable it could be and make sure she
doesn't just throw it away. There is another book I would like to
obtain about the Royal Engineers and hydrogeology during WW2 but it's
over £100 and not prepared to pay that much.
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2013
in google..british library
.Euston...have their copy..to see...if dr oates ealing local history
libray have their copy.in reference only books...120 pages .isbn 10
.1857700155..s b publications..
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2013
golf links est refurbish
2013/4..st david block been demolished..photos..Lytham .and comer block
to be demolished..picture how to be in
google..http://www.mulalley.co.uk/profiles/Golf%20Links%20Estate.pdf
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2013
old advert le grand in
google...hydraulic engineering ,hd office 100 bunhill row London
ec1.westminster branch 7 queen st London sw,,registered turnstiles
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2013
mr meads book.....territorial.old
drill hall built 1901..middx yeomanry .,then middx anti
aircraft,searchlight co....re..to 1937..then ..due to move to hayes
bridge more
room....http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/southall830/page13.html
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 16-Dec-2013
Thanks for your help Yvonne
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Dec-2013
ok happy xmas new yr carol
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Dec-2013
in google 2
articles..council...planning demolish...plans for penny sangam.day
clinic...southall norwood hospital....2013 nov dec in
google...http://www.pam.ealing.gov.uk/portal/servlets/MajorContentiousDevelopmentservlet
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Dec-2013
million pennies
1935,,£4000,,southall green ,ward windows over manor hse grounds,.clinic
penny sangam.up by ..old workingmens club chesnut..corner..lord mayor
London opened 1935.
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Dec-2013
3 days out its back....sent couple emails to them....happy xmas to all.
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Dec-2013
I wonder if they are trying to tell us something.
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Dec-2013
it goes off 3 days several times
now...not used much...facebook quite few yrs has grown amazingly ..all
ages enjoy it..with posts comments ..pictures photos at
most..friendsreunited went to facebk.etc..happy xmas denis..I did send
them several emails again.to say.
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Dec-2013
Thanks Yvonne all the best to you Toni, Just wondering.
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Dec-2013
thanks.will tell him.....yes 11
yrs here southall knowhere..it is old structure website if they cannot
manage .facebook.modern new...all towns nostalgia all ages..lots
pictures daily .comments etc.friends .admin.keep it nice..seem to have
advert.etc money to go.on and on..it seems..huge concern that they
are..free.most people 6yrs .1yr .there.and more
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Dec-2013
I suppose if they pull the plug we will all have to arrange to go to facebook en mass.
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 27-Dec-2013
I won't go to any Southall
Facebook, but where I live now, Arundel Facebook is very active but
Arundel Knowhere guide gets no new postings these days. Similarly,
other local knowhere guides such as Hanworth, Harefield, Hayes,
Perivale, Ealing etc and very many more have all had their regulars stop
posting new material in the last three years. I think it is mostly
because of Yvonne's wonderful enthusiasm that this one is still going ... more >>
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Dec-2013
best wishes keith happy new yr to
you all...facebook of 5 admin..site..closed site
join..monitored..people of 40s 50s 60s..memories nostalgia.with loads
photos..friends .school neighbours work..local people..who chat..are the
sites..uxbridge etc...Heston etc...southall...Greenford....hanwell has
cuckoo....they have all been going 6 yrs or so..members in the last
6mths ..of a year enjoy....iver slough....bedfont
Feltham.their..site has been going quite few yrs....all
facebook.because replies to comments friends.are so easy.and photos
mainly often.of local memories. ... more >>
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Dec-2013
I think you are right there Kieth its Yvonne who keeps use going.
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 28-Dec-2013
I would like to add my
wholehearted support to what Keith and Denis heve said about Yvonnes
sterling work on this site.Happy New Year to you all.
- Re: Southall & Norwood Book
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Dec-2013
happy new yr mike.very best
wishes to everybody.lovely to chat of southall and surrounds..recent
huge contribution.by local middx London folk.1950s and yrs around.of
sunday tea.gkids came around.white table cloth.celery in glass..winkle
stall barrow man..so black head flipped off with pin.cockles whelks
eels.shrimp.watercress mustard cress bread butter..madera cake.libbies
tin fruit jelly.10/20yrs
my nan family west ave .did many sundays..paste sandwich..tin
salmon.crab...so many people nostalgia fond memories..tomatoe out of
garden .radish.beet .lettuce.rows grown out back.best wishes to all for
2014..xx
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Durdans Field
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by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 14-Dec-2013
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Dennis, you mentioned a ditch that used to run across Durdans Field
where the school now stands, I've had a look along the towpath at that
point and there is a section where it appears a spur may have run off at
sometime, now filled in with concrete. The only dock on that side of
the canal that I am aware of was further south where the Scout centre in
Cranleigh Gardens is now located next to Spike s
Bridge Park. I suspect that the ditch was a dock that was never
completed when brick-making went into decline in the area in the 1920's,
particularly as the clay on that side of the canal was not really
economic to extract. ... more >>
- Re: Durdans Field
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Dec-2013
Thanks for the reply Colin,
the ditch i mention was just over the fences of the semis
along Lady Marg. Road & ran parallel to the houses &
Lady Margaret Road. The only dock i know of is Durdans dock
across Durdans field on the other side of the canal this is
the dock i have mention before with the steam crane &
corrugated iron cab
- Re: Durdans Field
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Dec-2013
There was a branch of the canal that went to the Quaker Oats factory and beyond
- Re: Durdans Field
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Dec-2013
Thats right Michael it is
still there, i remember pulling barges up & down it
thinking how strong we where that was in the mid 1950s.
- Re: Durdans Field
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2013
zeta and Pauline...along by there
.pre 1950..spoke of..zeta took photo from spikes bridge looking north
in 1950..zeta and others spoke.of the old spur old dock.area..by
municipal ground spikes bridge.they went up played around area of
old.sunken old barge.muddy................yrs 1900..several using the
areas along tow path to spurs old docks.for the work.along there areas
way back in time...thanks for your concrete find colin.of denis spoke of.. ... more >>
- Re: Durdans Field
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Dec-2013
Thanks Denis.During WW2 dad and I
used to go fishing there on his days off. In those days one could
access the side opposite the towpath as there was just scrubland between
the canal and the path that ran past AEC.
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A Very Happy Christmas
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Dec-2013
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As it's gradually getting nearer, I would just like to wish everyone on
this wonderful Southall Knowhere site of ours a Very Happy Christmas,
and a Healthy, Happy and Peaceful New Year. Love from Pauline.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2013
happy Christmas to you and everybody too..thankyou.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Dec-2013
A very merry Xmas & a happy new year to all the the old Southallians, Denis
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Dec-2013
I would like to echo these wonderful greetings-long live KnowhereSouthall
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 10-Dec-2013
A Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to all our readers (and writers).
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2013
seasons greetings to those near and to all members far away..several in Australia and new Zealand.and everywhere.xx
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 10-Dec-2013
A very happy Christmas to
everyone who contributes to our BRILLIANT site.. I am so glad I found
Knowhere Southall. Been on so many trips down Memory Lane. Take care
everyone, keep safe and keep warm. Chris xxx
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 10-Dec-2013
Thanks for that Chris but down
here in Australia keeping warm is exactly what we are trying not to do
ha ha. Best regards, Freddie Gough
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2013
11..12..13..today year 2013.great setting sun for a week but couple days fog now
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Dec-2013
So you won't be celebrating Christmas day on the beach then Fred?
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Dec-2013
Happy Christmas to everyone. Can anybody tell me where the Drill Hall was in Southall please - and is it still there?
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2013
drill hall in more modern times
hayes bridge uxbridge rd north side..east corner of bridge..large new
architecture built cost fortune..still in use..in google are
photos..TA......old drill hall Featherstone rd southall green..we put on
page here few month ago the date it moved it is in google....
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2013
it was not big enough ground
space old place at Featherstone rd..so..1950s etc..later yrs new build
hayes bridge by canal..google says parachute etc...dennis saw plane
there of parachute.training..1950s 60...happy xmas carol..huge photos of
new build in google .interiors exterior..cost hugemoney...in modern
times
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 11-Dec-2013
A Very MERRY CHRISTMAS to all you SOUTHALLIANS,
it is Great to see so many are taking part in this Fantastic Site.Long may it Survive.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Dec-2013
Thanks for replies. I was just
interested in the one in Featherstone Road at the start of WW2. I sent
for my dad's army records. He was in the Royal Engineers in the Well
Boring Section. Found a record where it says in Feb 1939 it was decided
that two well boring sections would be formed, the 2nd by Le Grand
Sutcliffe & Gel (a firm of Artesian Well Engineers based in
Southall) and based at the Drill Hall in Southall. ... more >>
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2013
yes Sutcliffe there southall green..did well boring..drill hall used to be Featherstone rd southall green west side...
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Dec-2013
Whereabouts was it in Featherstone Road - what building is there now? Thanks.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Dec-2013
Yes I know it was The Green. I used to work there and my dad worked there most of his life, before the war up until he died.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 11-Dec-2013
Thanks for the question Pauline
but no I will not be celebrating Christmas Day on the beach, never have
& never will, it wouldn't seem right.
Besides which you would be surprised at how many cold Christmas Days we've had here in Melbourne since I arrived in 1966
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2013
1970 1st jan I was Sydney they
said I had brought english weather.in oz accent my cousin had acquired
in 12/13 yrs .working and living there...visit was nice just bit of
unseasonal weather for my month
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 11-Dec-2013
Carol, the Drill Hall is still
there, it is at the junction of Featherstone Road and Dudley Road, it is
now a Community Centre for one the Asian groups in Southall. The
building has been altered somewhat, but it is still basically the same
as when it was built. If you look on Google maps and use Street View you
will be able to see it, it still has the date 1901 on the front of it.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Dec-2013
Thanks a lot Colin. I'll have a look.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Dec-2013
1966 Fred - That rings a bell as I
remember we won the World Football Cup against West Germany! I know
that we all went wild indoors!
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 11-Dec-2013
Fortunately Pauline I did not leave UK till 31st Aug 1966 & so was happily able to see our World Cup win in extra time.
I'd had a bet on England at Full Time so when they actually won in Extra Time I did not get paid.
I remember everyone was drinking "World Cup Willie" pale ale (Watneys if
I'm not mistaken)that night despite studiously avoiding it in the
months before.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2013
wasmy husbands favourite1970ish
watneys bitter..but no a little bit off youngs London brew bitter..nice
youngs opposite st pauls on the river for a stroll...he did not like
heavy rich strong smell fullers..brewery Hogarth roundabout
Chiswick..most are open to the public..we went to one once interesting
to see all about it...he always talks of 1966 world cup.bobby moore
etc..glad you saw it .august
the ship sailed..my cousin left southall ship through suez.1958ish
yr.party crossing the equator.she showed me her sewing machine said
items in hold of ship she felt got ruined .she blamed salt.she has been
home 3 times..we drove from Sydney to Melbourne..liked it .visited the
tall war museum large of the left at a hill.etc.1970 jan ... more >>
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Dec-2013
The bit that I will always
remember in that 1966 World Cup match at Wembley with all the drama that
went on, was Nobby Stiles running around the pitch after England had
won, minus his false teeth!
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Carol (Member 10254505) on 12-Dec-2013
I was living in Wembley at the time and we could hear the noise from the stadium.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2013
denis Pauline have spoke of emi
hayes.blyth rd contracts signed start build early 2014..old vinyl
building .areas complex..132 flats642 homes.offices cinema.restaurants
bars .4000jobs..£250million.gatefold.wilmott Dixon.purplexed.cathedral
group..ahead of new cross rail hayes southall stations to London.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2013
images in google
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Dec-2013
looks like big changes in Hayes, thanks Yvonne.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2013
yes takes while..in gazette
again..southall also..recession.holds back money..but plans paper long
time there ..up to crossrail 2015/6 ,through the
stations..advances.growth
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Dec-2013
http://beta.tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/new-bus-for-london
lovely photos local London areas.... new .bus now..increasing..
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Dec-2013
A far cry from the A.E.C ,
Leylands & Routemasters of the 1950/60s but more in
keeping with the traditional London bus than the bendy bus.
- Re: A Very Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Dec-2013
yes more like it than the long bendy bus..
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White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club
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by Tony Freer (Member 10259893) on 6-Dec-2013
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Would anyone have information on the whereabouts of Don Short today.
I am looking for photographs and information regarding the ART WOOD
COMBO who played at the White Hart. Don was also their manager at one
time.
Thanks, Tony
Tony Freer
Woodstock, Ontario
CANADA
antfreer@yahoo.ca ... more >>
- Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Dec-2013
art wood at the famous ealing
club..jazz etc..famous many yrs going back long time..still there
..active...ealing broadway ealing w5..they organised celebration for
famous james marshall.yr ago.....art here...in
google...http://www.ealing-club.com/an-a-z-of-ealing-rock/
- Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Dec-2013
art wood died 2006...etc...here...http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/art-wood-423177.html
in google
- Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Artwoods
- Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2013
art of west drayton age 69
prostate cancer..other members local hayes etc...emi hayes huge changes
going on there..their archive...uxbridge local history library for whole
area .now borough Hillingdon..high st
uxbridge...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Wood
- Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club
by Tony Freer (Member 10259893) on 7-Dec-2013
Thank you for the replies. I know
about Art and the Artwoods, but trying to locate details of Don Short
and possible photographs of the Artwoods at the White Hart or other CLUB
locations. Thanks, Tony
- Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2013
art but not don in google...try
the ..link gave you...local..famous music ealing.club 1950s onwards to
day.....they may have..also try.local items also at ealing library
.London w5..for borough ealing southall....
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