Trains
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 26-Mar-2011
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My grandmother lived in Arkley Barnet and we go on the Picadilly Line
to Charing Cross and then the Northern Line to Barnet, this was in
1940-41 and when we came home I can remember stepping over people down
in the underground with their blankets, flasks of tea bedding down for
the night. I used to say to Mum why can't we do that!!!! being only
8-9 at the time, and when the train came out of the underground many a time we would have to stop and the lights would go out until it was all clear. ... more >>
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 25-Mar-2011
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Hi John I too remember the money being sent to the cashier, I know
there was one in a shop called Souters in Slouth, and I think there was
one in Saunders in Ealing Broadway.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Mar-2011
denis....she has emailed
today...yes we 3 booked....more the merrier says...no ticket
free..........lawrence holt lifetime interesting collection on heston
and airport especially..rare chance.....presentation...so be photos
projection and he is good speaker........light refreshments.....have let
know before 30 mar......main hall..heston communitiy centre....car
park.free....corner of vicarage farm
rd at junction cranford lane where lawrence lived.....opposite parade
shops where bakseer the comedian lived..fish chip shop there..big
doctors centre by the community centre..thurs19th 7.30may....in the main
hall.....tw5oee....time for questions..90 mins.presentation..comes from
leatherhead but he is such a reliable chap..he bound to be there early
setting up.....grateful to you lawrence from us all.....got southall
book at last..in tesco..usually they reduce £15 pbk books to £4.99 but
not yet......one ith viaduct cover good by oates
southallhanwell......but like the southall by oates town hall cover best
so much text photos.with tudor rd school etc..but rare .libraries have
it and amazon ...cowley bk in tesco pbk by tempus history press £15 at
moment.......new daily next wk tv..bbc1..2.15pm census idea family
generations over 80 yrs...1801 only rough 1st census southal green 33
houses south field east field.farm.where nans gt.gdad born 1806..photos
ole transport cafe and also of now shell garage on our photos etc etc
there..gazette has retro every week...100 yr old and less people
interviews southall people etc weekly..they said the same things about
school etc...are you old facesouthall..site today has 2 who worked at
aec.their father...closed 1979 now ready made meals production site
industrial estate.. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Mar-2011
Thank you Yvonne i will be
there try to get B&B come back day after have a look at
Yeading marina ect.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Mar-2011
yes definately worth look at
yeading..car park easy there and stroll over the arch bridge durdans
looks ok the other side...right hand bend inlane after tesco.see at left
of tesco..high boards willow pub gone jolly lane after mr jolly who was
famous landlord many yrs....marina go through the nature trail....at
side all in 10 mins area.....nice weather day probably..evening probably
thurs heston library next to swim pool open..was refurbished last yr.more computers added.... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Apr-2011
Its a few years since i
whent to Heston swimming baths mid 50s has it still got the
large glass windows down one wall.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Apr-2011
dont know was 1966 last time swam there......looks like windows down side entance walk down wall
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 6-Apr-2011
Dennis I used to go to Heston
swimming pool in the middle of winter would you believe and when we came
out we would have an Oxo drink I think it cost 1 penny or 1.1/2pennies,
I think we got the 120 bus not sure about that.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Apr-2011
yes 120 bus still runs..we always
had oxo..needed it..chilly..and chloride.got to you..was good swim
though....1960s 170 was last time went lived behind the church there
then..bus stop by church.....still open ..library next door..heston pk
had may day fair for centuries..norwood green fete july annually ..on
bus route
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Apr-2011
Zeta i remember the cafe and OXO drinks happy days.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Apr-2011
for those of us who missed
cinema..mamma mia film tv saturday...gt streep and colin firth and julie
walters is the best...sunny greece..gt abba songs..
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 8-Apr-2011
I went to school in Heston, and
we went swimming to Heston Baths as part of PE. You had to go through a
shower the get to the pool and the water wasn't very warm.
Our class went to watch one of the 1948 Olympic swim teams practiced there.
I remember the hot drinks, but always remembered it as being Bovril, I think it was 4d a cup but we didn't always have the 4d.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2011
yes was pence think oxo became
cheaper than bovril...chilly yes drink helped...yes feet to shallow pool
on way out..in...showers ..shallow end...floats to use learn
swim.....it is still there...good new library next door to it..1948
olympics...wembley..photos on our boards...2012..using venues all over
the place....and 60 of queen june........gt yr..and abbey 29th this
yr......my cousin is over from
alberta comes every yr..air miles supermarket etc........1970 he went
out..his 97 yr old mum with him now ...all southall people since
1850...she was married st johns southall green.. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Apr-2011
Me my dad and the chap next
door followed the Olimpic torch runner up Western Ave. on
his way to White City 1948, we were in a 1938 Ford 8.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2011
thats a good memory...there is a sexton from bethnal green..boxer...and football....will add details...same name you
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 9-Apr-2011
Wentworth Rd is in Heston
although most of the amenities for us were in Southall. I had to go to
school in Heston although Western Rd school and Featherstone Rd were
closer. Later they allowed children from Wentworth Rd go to Featherstone
and Western Rd.
When I took the bus to school I had to take the 105 to King St and the
120 to Heston, passing both Western Rd school and Featherstone.
When we moved from
Queens Rd to Wentworth Rd I had to change schools from Featherstone to
Norwood Green Junior school, although Norwood Green was considered a
better school I was never happy there. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Apr-2011
Thank you Yvonne look forward toit.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Apr-2011
yes john that is funny thing
northhyde...much of it...ub2 postcode ..whereas...heston is tw3/5
postcode.........ha.....1800s 1900s...all to canal was parish of
heston....use heston church marriage baptism...regiuster district
certificates brentford.......nowrood green always norwood southall so
came under hayes /uxbridge district and parish...then 1965...I had to
change councils.......yeadinghayes
came under borough hillingdon..instead of moved in as southall
borough..in 1961............carve up........feathers was good school
lots good people went 20th century...opened 1890...my gdad went there
from old north star by wentworth rd northhyde..and nan lived common next
to old oak..1914 hers went to new 1911 opened western rd..had good
reputation yrs....the older school kids happy lke north rd........went
to newly opened dormers..1st built primary....was not the cosy
established warm atmosphere..nice but..not secure feeling of older more
traditions etc school.....homes were disjointed war etc...had pretty
awful time..just about did times table and read...cant say happy but got
by........never off sick....7 and 6 yrs school....family had never
heard of it...factory etc.family..they did not get payed if
off.....never heard expression off sick or go to docs.all my
life....back then...it was not heard of....hospitals you died if went
hospital...1920/30s family.......had old ways... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Apr-2011
denis....on google....archie
sexton 3.4 1908 bethnal green...boxing 1925 to 1936...lost sight left
eye damaged so became bbc referee..1945 got george medal from buck
palace...rescued 3 from bomb..1956 emigrated newzealand died next
yr...son was david sexton football mnager...archies brother was boxer
used name jim blake...many eastend were boxing all yrs lots
clubs.........KEITH........canal up rickmansworth
edge middx......house boats..got solar panels on narrow boats......and
windmill going round on top of boat...getting power.....JOSIE...jimmy
may well know...peter clayton pro boxer 1936 southall green.joyce the
sister dad well know used 3 tuns pub..photo boards 31/30.......john
.w....55 yrs ..a dad is selling queens rd number 48 been there 55
yrs..son born there..photos our board ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Apr-2011
Thanks Yvonne will take a look.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Apr-2011
Not sure Archie Sexton
related, our side of Sextons from Woking but Bethnal green not
far that from Woking could be distant.
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 25-Mar-2011
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Hi John I too remember the money being sent to the cashier, I know
there was one in a shop called Souters in Slouth, and I think there was
one in Saunders in Early Broadway.
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 25-Mar-2011
John that should have been Ealing Broadway!!!!
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Mar-2011
Yes Zeta,I remember Suters of
Slough in the fifties, and the money whizzing through the air to the
cashier. It was a very posh Departmental Store, and some of the older
ladies, who had obviously been there for ages, used to look down their
noses at you at times. It changed to Owen Owen later, and then to
Alders. They had some beautiful carpets and curtains in Suters. We
bought our first curtains for our lounge from Suters when we lived in Langley, and I can still remember them in my mind's eye. ... more >>
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 25-Mar-2011
Zeta they also had a overhead system at Clifton Brown's in the Broadway Southall
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Mar-2011
I seem to remember that someone mentioned that Jones & Knights, West Ealing also had an overhead money system.
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 25-Mar-2011
Hi Pauline, yes Suters was a posh
shop, Owen Owen did they have a store in Uxbridge? Ged my hubby his
mother lived in Iver after they retired from Burnham Beeches, lovely
spot, they lived in a street called Swallowdale, they were Council
units.
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 25-Mar-2011
Zeta yes there was a Owen and Owen I bought a Waterford crystal vase from there many years ago
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Mar-2011
Iver was a lovely picturesque
little village when we first moved into Langley, but when the Duke and
Duchess of Kent moved out of Coppins in Iver, it started to change.
Faster roads replaced the winding lanes, and the pretty little humpback
bridge over the water where you had to give way to oncoming traffic as
it was so narrow, was then cut out. There was a Trust House at the side.
We were up and down that road many times as my husband had a small engineering business in Cowley for over 25 years. Happy days. ... more >>
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 26-Mar-2011
I remember a humped bridge when I
used to get the bus from Uxbridge to Slough, if you sat at the back of
the bus sometimes the driver would go faster and you would jump out of
your seat. Ged's Dad used to use The Black something can't remember
now but a lady who worked in the post office here in Auckland saw the
post mark on a letter to Mum and she told me that she used to run that
pub many years back
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Mar-2011
Zeta would that be the humpback bridge on the road to Stains nr. Colnebrook.
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 26-Mar-2011
Len, I think it was Clifford Evans in Southall Broadway and Clifton Brown's in South Road.
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 26-Mar-2011
Yes Pauline, Jones & Knights in West Ealing had the overhead cash system too.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Mar-2011
Zeta - There was a pub in Iver Heath, Bucks called "The Black Horse". Don't know if that's the one you were thinking of?
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Mar-2011
I think the big humpback bridge
before you got to the "Malt Shovel" pub in Iver Lane could be the one
you went over Zeta. When I used to drive my Dad and my kids over that
bridge, they always shot up in their seats, and he always used to shout
out Ooooh!
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by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 26-Mar-2011
I also shopped at Suters in
Slough when we lived in Langley, as a matter of fact I remember buying
my eldest daughters first party dress in there.
Very posh!! we usually shopped in Marks and Spencers or BHS and my
neighbours husband worked at Ladybird (Passolds) and we used to get kids
clothes from their seconds shop.
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 26-Mar-2011
Yes Pauline that's right it was the Black Horse.
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 26-Mar-2011
Bransons gents outfitters next door to Lodges the old post office in King St,had overhead money system
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Mar-2011
I went in rouses west ealing
often on saturdays.think I remember heavy thick wires shooting across
high..and metal ball unscrewed and she put the money in going off to
probably the cashier box.......there is one museum locally at
rickmansworth near harefield of ruislip.....they have a shop section in
there...it has a cashier wooden section of a store.....and museum of
london by st pauls...has whole
sections of 1930/50 shop store sections....and cinema foyer
parts...little metal flick apparatus at cashier for cinema ticket to
shoot through....photos of the old bus staff bits on our photo
boards..metal ticket machine and leather shoulder
bag.pouch....etc...best wishes ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Mar-2011
And a wooden mouse trap ticket rack.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Mar-2011
Jean - Do you remember when BHS
used to sell food. I always bought my Canadian cheese and bacon in
there, plus the mouth watering Angel Cake. Also, they had a small
restaurant downstairs where I used to take my two daughters for
something to eat - they used to do children's portions. They were so
good and let you have boiling hot water to put the babies' milk bottle
in, and my big pram which I parked close to us, but just outside the eating area. What energy we all had in those days! ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Mar-2011
oh yes mouse trap...and metal
spike push down slips.think the butcher counter had that..way of
serving......and wooden screw balls that shot across these ceiling cash
and shot back with change...ha seems so funny......
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Mar-2011
Meant the wooden rack bus
conductors had with tickets for veriuos stages on the route
held down with springs like mouse trap springs.
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 27-Mar-2011
Pauline, I remember when BHS sold
food and I used to buy their cheese too. They cut what you wanted off a
big block, not like the pre-packed stuff you get nowadays.
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by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 28-Mar-2011
Yes Pauline we used to go to BHS
for our lunch on shopping day(Friday), the kids used to love it and
prepared them for the long walk home. As you say it was quite a way and
we lived just off Middle Greeen Rd not as far as you had to walk to the
village.
I had forgotten about the angle-cake but you set my mouth watering at the thought of it.
We were probably in there at th same time all those years ago!!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Mar-2011
lyons and others do the packed
angel cake now but cheese cake of the bakers with coconut white strips
sweet across the op of flacky pastry sponge inside......dont see
regularily.....coconut piramid or squares..bakewell tart or pudding they
have up north...eccles cakes.not see those much.......yummy
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Mar-2011
Jean - After going down "Memory
Lane", and BHS in Slough High Street, did your kids pester you before
you walked home to have a look at the Pet Shop in Chandos Street. I
could never get mine to leave. It was right opposite Park Street, and on
the opposite side of Chandos Street was Slough General Post Office.
I've just got a glimpse in my mind of a large clock further along the
road? I've just tapped
into Google "Photo of Slough High street 1950 Francis Frith", and there
are 35 photos in the 1950's and 60's. There is one of Suters and Isaacs -
I'd forgotten about them, and if I remember rightly there was a carpark
behind Isaacs with an alleyway leading into the high street. Of course,
when Queensmere shopping Centre was built in the 70's Chandos street
disappeared, with all our memories! ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Mar-2011
my cousin went to live
slough..about 1946 after war from cranford lane huge heston family..her 3
children born went to school there...we visited castleview rd..and
really was huge empty field out behind their garden so view of windsor
castle...they kept preservation of view up ....when the family came up
M4.to middx..on going home it was the windsor castle fire...saw like
chimney the round turret edge..going
up..tony and I went later saw blackened windows of north side waterloo
room with that huge malakite green vase massive.....chapel
destroyed...millions pounds but they restored for state banquets the
very special huge room...just one halogen lamp..refurbish men left on by
curtain......all those many hundreds yrs..and then fire..but does look
perfect again...now royal woooton basset and royals always drove through
those windsor local villages to london...northcote ave related by
marriage moved to windsor been there..since 1959...rest went to
swindon... ... more >>
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 23-Mar-2011
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I went to see National Velvet at the Dominion Cinema, it would have
been around 1944 or 1945, I was living in Queens Rd at the time, and we
moved to Wentworth Rd at the end of the war, when my dad got out of the
RAF.
So I must have been seven years old and went with my best friend, Brian
Taylor. We watched the movie through a couple of times maybe more, and
got into a lot of trouble when we got home as it got quite late.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Mar-2011
I saw that film John - it was
lovely. Can't remember which cinema I went to though. Elizabeth Taylor
starred in that - she was only twelve years old, and Mickey Rooney. It
was a 1944 film. She was a beautiful young woman and I was sorry when I
heard she had died yesterday.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2011
good to see all her films on
tv..velvet think she was only less than 9..with dear mickey
rooney..comes over here to do pantos with his wife........because born
in hampstead to american parents he an art dealer...they went to america
when she was around the age of 7......thanks to all actors for the
entertainment they give us...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2011
helping zeta phylis sheila and
all.........one quick way to get photos..use index.....type in google
.....flickr.southallphotostream4.singersew shop............and up comes
all those photos...........prashars colour sari
window....................to enlarge full screen.........click photo
then actions..then all sizes...then allow....zoom bar at bottom of
screen...best wishes.....award from the palace for elizabeth..because born england..acting ..great fame and charity work...good woman ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Mar-2011
John - Did your best friend have a
brother called Ernie Taylor. Some way back on this Site I put in a
message that I had met Ernie Taylor's sister in my bank one day (who was
getting on), and she mentioned that she had four brothers and she was
the last one born. She said they had lived in Queens road, and that
Ernie had been working on the Dragons on top of the Palace cinema years
ago. Does this ring any bells?
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 24-Mar-2011
Not sure if Brian was related to Ernie. He only had one brother Alan who was born after the war.
Most of us young children hardly saw our fathers during the war. His father was in the Army and mine in the RAF.
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 21-Mar-2011
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Does anyone remember a Mr Harris he used to bring new clothes to the
house, and you could put them on tick, he used to come to our house and
Mum would usher him into the front room out of sight to Dad, he sold
lovely stuff.
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 21-Mar-2011
Zeta I remember the'Tally' man
came on a Friday Pauline mentioned the Prov. cheque there was a shoe
shop the corner of Abbotts Rd called B.E. Still he wouldn't take them on
a Saturday they were the fore runner of to-days credit card in earlier
post we were saying how much rent one paid I was married in 1958 and
lived in Paddington we were paying £4 a week for one room my wife worked
At the Maida Vale
nervous diseases hospital our first house was in Carfax Rd.Hayes then
Hortus Rd. Southall then Westbury and finally Laburnum we have lived
here 35 years bought for £15000. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Mar-2011
I have a very bad memory of
Provident cheques. My mother was away convalescing somewhere so my Dad
took me and my two brothers to King Street. He bought a lot of clothes
for us and the gentleman who served us was extremely attentive, as it
was a lot of money. He eventually wrapped them all up in a large brown
paper parcel tied up with string, and my dad got the Provident cheques
out to give to him. The
man's face fell as he said "I'm sorry, Sir, we don't take them in here,
you need next door." My dad's face went crimson, and I felt really sorry
for him. We all skulked out of that shop as if we were criminals. Over
the years we all had a good laugh about it, as you did in Southall! ... more >>
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by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 22-Mar-2011
Ah the tally man, every Friday
(pay day) Jack Knibbs would call have a cup of tea and do his books, how
simple and freindly it was. I think he was working for Lawson's of
Hammersmith a department store long since gone.
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 22-Mar-2011
We had an insurance man call weeekly-he had a rich voice-always addressed me as "young man"
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 22-Mar-2011
We used to have Albert
(Tallyman)drove Gold Jaguar,was very popular around Southall
1950's..small little Jewish man..he was very happy with one pound a week
no matter what we chose out of the boot of his car.regards Josie.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Mar-2011
Zeta - When you were in Southall
in 1970, you said you remember seeing an Indian Sari shop near to the
"Three Horse Shoes" as you drove by. There is a wonderful coloured photo
on Southallboard4 page 2 of that Indian shop next door to the old
"Singer" sewing centre.
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 23-Mar-2011
thanks for that Pauline I will have a look, funny how things stand out
in your mind and you mentioned the singer sewing shop, it all comes back
to me. I think what drew my attention was the bright coloured materials
in the window
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 23-Mar-2011
Hi Yvonne, yes all those
factories on the Gt West Road, I remember them all, you worked just
opposite me then at Sperry's, I used to think if I get fed up with my
job I could always find something along the Gt West Rd, loads to choose
from. We used to go to a cafe just around the corner from Janzens
Swimwear, and we would have mince pie and chips, lovely, always on
friday pay day.
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 23-Mar-2011
Do you remember those shops that
had those little canisters that sent the money along wires to the
cashier, and the change would come back.
I know there were a couple in Southall and Hounslow,
but can't recall the names.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Mar-2011
john ................hounslow had
a and a fashion store 60s 70s.kate middletons mum worked in there when
family moved to norwood green kingbridge behind wolf pub.......long very
popular high st........... bell pub down to big bus garage........used
to be cinema and cottage hospital up by the bell with gibbet tree back
in time outside...........120 bus from southall...........
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Insurance agents
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 20-Mar-2011
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remember those men who used to come our door for the insurance money, I
can't remember the names of the insurances does anyone remember some of
them I remember Mum having a penny one and a couple of others.
- Re: Insurance agents
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 20-Mar-2011
Hi Zeta - We used to have quite a
few callers when I was a young girl. The insurance man from the Royal
Friendly Society came each month (Mr Pullen). Burr & Gibbons Coal
Merchants, my mother paid in a small amount each fortnight to spend on
fuel during the winter (Mr Bolson). The baker from Price's Bakery and
the milk lady (Mrs Lee) from the dairy by Southall Market (can't
remember the name) came daily.
Then there was the travelling greengrocer (Nobby Clark) who piled all
his goods onto a Morris Countryman with the back down to hold the
scales. Often, too, there would be gypsy ladies trying to sell 'lucky'
heather. Occasionally an onion seller with strings of onions on the
handlebars of his bike and on Sundays, the man selling winkles in the
winter, Tony the ice cream man in the summer (before the days of vans
with those awful chimes). The rag and bone man, the knife and scissor
sharpener, the Corona man and if we were very lucky, we'd have a lump of
ice cream put into a glass and lemonade poured over the top, a treat
and best eaten with a spoon sitting on the back door step! Housewives
didn't feel isolated in those days, always someone knocking at the door
or a neighbour to chat to over the back fence as washing was hung out or
collected in. Remember any of these kind of things? ... more >>
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by maggie shaw (Member 10255238) on 20-Mar-2011
Thankyou Janice, oh yes I can
remember some of those things. There was also someone who came to the
door with a tray of jewelery. Little red ladybird broaches and flowers
on a brass pin. I always longed for one.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Mar-2011
thats good janice think you were
northcote ave a while ..we were west ave..so whether corona and tony ice
on his bike came down.alexandra to us then round to you.....those
coalmen with leather headgear and over shoulder leather...huge sack
round the back and shute in to coal bunker..oh the cost......coal then
went to smokeless zovne..yes call of rag and bone could hear all down
the street...about yr
ago on site pauline and several recalled all the penny insurance.....we
had fire and life....fire imoortant they worried...small coal fire in
living room....still gas mantle...and gdad only payed for newfangled
electric downstairs..up at night in cold..was wollies metal candle loop
hold handle..to light the way ..ha.....saw nan ironing on flanellette
sheet table with electric flex from ceiling......or earlier hot flat
irons off the stove
heated.......royals....prudential....wesleyan.....penny ones nan had in
1936...payed for funeral bit of black......insurance man said to her
your hubby birth cert acres..all 7 babies her motherinlaw told her to
register ackers.....so he said to nan get 2 changed..not married
yet...so dad went army war as self imposed acres married birth me....I
went to london asked depoll....but they said no need...lifetime use
makes legal.....ha..hackers..akers..all used at 1800s northhyde..by them
all..ha... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Mar-2011
The only regular callers I can
remember from years ago was The Liverpool Victoria Society collecting
the insurance money and the Rent Lady, and the Provident (which was for
clothes we had bought on the never never)! We did get the Gypsy Ladies
with their lucky heather and pegs sometimes, until my brother David
learnt how to make the pegs himself. Also remember The Hayes News being
delivered every week.
Tony the icecream man used to come round ringing his bell, the coalmen
with sacks on their heads and the poor old dustmen who had all those
heavy dustbins to carry with the ashes from the fires.
The vinegar man came occasionally, and of course the baker and the
milkman. I remember the boys in the street hanging on the back of the
baker's cart to get a free ride, and the rest shouting "Whip behind
guvnor". Also remember the rag & bone men. With our back gardens all
having wire fences in Northcote Avenue, could always see our neighbours
hanging out their washing etc. and having a chat with them, unlike
today with our fences and gates shutting out everyone. ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Mar-2011
Janice-I think we were in contact
some years ago about Mr Pullen. His son Howard is still alive I am glad
to say.although not on the Internet-he lives at Basingstoke.
- Re: Insurance agents
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Mar-2011
refuge another little brown
book..fortnightly..long row down of signature and premium..if missed one
or draw out then penalty..tin biscuit box under bed or sideboard,,think
they felt tin sealed would help protect against..fire...what fuss and
extra cost if you lost the policy sheet or book....that change over to
coke and smokeless fuel....uxbridge rd was thick to school of
fog..probably pollution......cant see hand in front of you.......see headlight in distance if could make out the number of the bus..... ... more >>
- Re: Insurance agents
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Mar-2011
When I was still thinking about
callers at the door, I remember in the 50's the photographers used to
come round and then come back later to photograph the children. Also, we
had Milesmann salesmen who sold those wonderful copper kettles and
teapots. When the first salesman knocked on my door in Langley I didn't
have any spare money on me to give him a deposit for the kettle and
teapot I wanted. So,
guess what, he said I'll lend it to you, and he did! My sister-in-law
couldn't stop laughing at the time. That copper kettle, which was for
the gas stove, lasted me years and years and I can still picture it in
my mind. ... more >>
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by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 20-Mar-2011
I lived in Shrubbery Rd we used
to have Mr Bartrop the coal call I think my mother order a ton of coal
to be delivered in Sept and then he would bring a cwt very week during
the winter so as we never run out ,The coal was carried on a horse and
cart . bet Phyllis remembers this ,our milkman was Mr Everington whose
shop was on the corner of School Passage . Liverpool Victoria called on
us as well.in fact my dad paid them until he die in 1998 it was a 1p policey and paid out about £20 ... more >>
- Re: Insurance agents
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Mar-2011
I still have 2 Wesleyan
paying in books from the 50s keept in the family papers we
also had the provident.
- Re: Insurance agents
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 20-Mar-2011
janice the dairy was the Jersey
Farm near the market I had forgotten about Burr and Gibbons there was a
coal office called Tyne and Main near Lionel's the gent's outfitters
there was sweet shop near the town hall called the Ideal our insurance
man was a Mr Hopkins lived in Alfred Gdns.then a Mr Dale lived in
Livingstone Rd.he rode a Velocette motor bike someone mentioned Baltrop
coalman he lived in
Derley Rd. we use to get our coal from Southall station The coal firm
were Whitehouse you paid your money at the office then went to fetch
your coal. ... more >>
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 20-Mar-2011
My cousin used to go on her bike collecting TV rents for Radio Rentals.
- Re: Insurance agents
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 20-Mar-2011
I remember Refuge and Liverpool
Victoria.Can't remember what the insurances were for though. My Mum used
to put the money with the book ready for the collection each week, and
if she was busy I had to go to the door and pay the man.
- Re: Insurance agents
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Mar-2011
Phyl - Liverpool Victoria was a Death Policy. Perhaps Refuge was an insurance for fire & life.
- Re: Insurance agents
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 20-Mar-2011
Can anyone remember Captain Bryent// school of motoring?
- Re: Insurance agents
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 20-Mar-2011
MR EVERINGTON the milkman from
the corner of the school passage........I seem to recall his name was
ARCHIE; he used to deliver to us in Grove Terrace. I can see his face
now! Cardboard tops on the milk bottles. I'm sure they had a little
punched hole in the top - we used to use them to make wollen bobbles.
Chris x
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 20-Mar-2011
thanks everyone for all all the feedback on the insurance agents, bought
back a lot of memories,the gypsies coming to the door, my Mum was very
superstitious and took them quite serious at times, she would buy their
pegs and the heather, and sewing needles eleastic for the our
knickers!!! I remember the coalman too, we used to get a ton of Welsh
Boiler nuts for the ideal boiler, we had the Royal Liver insurance and the Prudential, it all comes back to me now, thanks again. ... more >>
- Re: Insurance agents
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Mar-2011
I don't remember Captain Bryant
Len, but do remember his sign high up on the corner, just past The Ideal
Tobacconist before Lady Margaret road. It always seemed to have a
bright light on.
- Re: Insurance agents
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Mar-2011
Hi Len was his driveing
school on the corner of Lady Marg. rd across from the town
hall above the bank or am i on the wrong school.
- Re: Insurance agents
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Mar-2011
john at the beginning of tv for
us was when itv came in.1958approx,,.rental yes..then one time think she
had one that had a box on the side to pay as you go put tanners in...my
goodness had to have the repair man in ..those days..everybody trying
to see what to do around the back,,,whats wrong..ha...tubes used to get
hot etc.....more modern times they are marvellous really...but tony had
hell of job to get me to
change my old b/w set..to colour...his mums early colour was so red
gordy..etc...but tony tunes our in beautifully //has always been
wonderful....digital2012..we all have to have new tvs..or
something...ha...progress ... more >>
- Re: Insurance agents
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 20-Mar-2011
Yes Dennis and Pauline you were
right his office was on the corner of Lady Margaret Rd.I Twas thinking
the other day I can't recall a Building Society in Southall I maybe
wrong I am going back to the thirties and forties we rented our house in
Alexandra Ave.from a Mr Hutchins the rent was eleven and fourpence a
week to-days money just over 55p my Dad was a bus driver his wage was
£3.15 a week there were
five children to feed we use to go to Bishops for our shopping and
Sainsbury for cracked eggs 12 oranges from Charlie Chambers for a
shilling Oh happy days. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Mar-2011
You've got such a good memory Len
for prices years ago. The only price I remember is in 1945 when I had
just left school and got my first job at the Cow & Gate Milk Depot
in Greenford. It was for a Junior Clerk and I got the pricely sum of
£1-09p. I remember I had to give my mum some out of that, and keep
enough for bus fares, but I thought I was rich!
- Re: Insurance agents
by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 21-Mar-2011
The insurance my mother had was
with Pearl Insurance and a Mr Ash made collections each week. If no one
was home mother would send me to Mr Ash`s house off Allenby Rd. I
remember his wife would come to the door followed by lots of cats.Coal
deliveries were made by Horace Dennis who lived in the Mount Pleasant
houses by the Beehive Pub.He had two coal carts drawn by horses Nobby
& Black Beauty. When we used coke it was from Gas Co and was delivered by a steam driven truck. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Mar-2011
Hello Ron would this be
1948/50 with the steam lorries i think it would be the gas
light & coke co. later North Thames gas board the lorries
would be Sentinals dropped hot cinders on the road.
- Re: Insurance agents
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2011
nan moved in the new council
house west ave built..3 bedroom 6 kids.1st baby died.....19/- a
week.....then they asked gdad to pay extra to put the electric in
instead of gas mantles..matcho victorian labourer..strong mouthed....he
refused...so upstairs we took candles to 1950s....nan worked ticklers
eldest daughter did their lunches and got veg ready for nan to cook
dinner 6pm......gdad was in charge
of the rt warren house builder group..ganger forman....but wage..his
life 1910to 1940s...20/- week...£3.. week or such....seasonal.as jimmy
would say..never know if out of work...1914 war effort nan worked the
fields neighbour looked after kids..1940 3 daughters worked
munitions....the condemned old dwelling old age number 13....was 2/6 a
week..rented....1790 beginning of the old canal side cluster by the
pub.mount pleasant......penny beer friday night long hrs labourer 6 days
week..farthing bread...low wage for many decades they were kept at...so
penny insurance fire or funeral and bit of black...the women tried to
pay 1930s..because their grans most had known pauper grave for kids
babies elderly and no antibiotics inoculations.epidemics heston
graveyard full... ... more >>
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 21-Mar-2011
I think the dairy name was
Etherington, and it was at the top of School Passage, on the High
Street. Archie was the man who worked for them and, I think, eventually
took it over. In the same little parade of shops there was also Dover's,
the shoe menders, a sweet shop (can't remember the name) and then
Spicer the undertaker. Opposite was Wadham's the grocers, with Mr Wadham
senior, his son Gerald and daughter-in-law who worked with him in the shop. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2011
photo of the old corner sweet
shop on our board still boarded derelict think since 1957
approx..goldswains run by mrs baxter....pity the kids school passage
there could use as sweets etc shop today.....etherington..if a brother
lived gordon rd..1900s to 1980 3rd generation..they were born and lived
in the house....related they married into my family...
- Re: Insurance agents
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 21-Mar-2011
thyat sweet shop phyl can,t
remember the namethink it was run by two sisters i used to have to go
there for my gran on a saturday morning to get 10 weights with her o a p
cigarette cupons and i think they were 4 1/2 per packet myparents
rented our house in shrubbery rd the rent was 9 shillings and 6p aweek
we had no electricity until 1956 only gas and no bathroom and an outside
toilet .when the landlord did put theelectric in it cost my dad £20 and we only had two power points ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2011
yes sheila..gdad eventually had
electric put in downstairs only..iron from flex in ceiling above big
heavy suare table.think flanelette sheet....best cloth was a velvet
thing with tassels hanging low.......1928 gdad moved in...from 2/6
extrememly old couple rm place....he was born 1890 so no such thing as
rates..council comes in 20s 30s pay rates..extra on his 19/6 council
rent///he hit the roof....refused
nan and daughters had to get round him..nan worked ticklers jam..they
payed rates...go to prison if not...ha....was mrs baxter of 1950 one of
the 2 sisters......pity it is still boarded today....2011 google st view
light boards all around northcote pub and alley..2 fires
roof.2008..squatters in..grade 2 listed building of 1910..dominoes men
had in front public..saloon bar ladies dressed new dress coat brooch
necklace earrings..sat night...or lounge bar grand shiny black piano and
nice music..dance..snug bar near grughams side arrowrot bisc penny back
bottle...off licence light ale or stout for nan..home looking after the
kids.....1950 sheila morrison dance school wolf pub... ... more >>
- Re: Insurance agents
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Mar-2011
Hi Len mum used to shop in Bishops Lady Marg. Rd. nr the L.M. PUB.
- Re: Insurance agents
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 22-Mar-2011
`Dennis our Bishop's was on the
Broadway near to Beachcroft Ave. Norwood Farm dairy was on the corner
and Gurney's the radio shop on the other side can anyone remember the
big boot hanging from Standen the shoe repair shop.
- Re: Insurance agents
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Mar-2011
Thank you Len geting mixed up with Philips store Lady Marg. Rd.
- Re: Insurance agents
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2011
Yes Len, I can remember the big
Boot hanging from Standen's the boot repair shop in the high street. Can
anyone remember the little boy in the front of the window - he had rosy
red cheeks and was smiling, and he kept wagging his finger as his lips
moved. My mum used to tell us he was saying "I told you so, I told you
so". When I was very young I used to press my face against the wondow as
I really loved watching him.
- Re: Insurance agents
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2011
Len, what was the name of the
ladies Dress shop on the corner of Beechcroft Avenue, before Gurneys
were there? That's where I bought our teacher, Miss Smith, the
artificial flower from the class as her retirement present.
- Re: Insurance agents
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 22-Mar-2011
Pauline the shop was Rialto next door Mr. Brown the newsagent then Stowells the off licence
- Re: Insurance agents
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2011
Thanks Len. Then there was Price's bakery and Meyers the vegetable shop somewhere in between.
- Re: Insurance agents
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 23-Mar-2011
My memories of the tallyman were
of a young chap who also sold records obtained from HMV questionably?
Thats how i got Elvis's 1st LP and demo 45's.
My dad taught me how to drive but insisted I have four final leasons from Bryants Driving School before the test.
- Re: Insurance agents
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2011
of value that elvis now..my
cousin lifetime mad on elvis went to gracelands..got ours of all types
emi...few of ours worked there.......tonys mum took him drive age 17 but
few lessons and use school car he passed 15 mins out those days and
pass .......little white mini he took to 6th form.hounslow grammar......
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 19-Mar-2011
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Did any of the Marks Family live in Bankside by the canal a chap
called Happy Markslived there before moving to Delamere Road with his
wife and mother, and then immigrated to NZ, his mother went to live with
another member this would have been in 1959-61.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2011
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today announced..the end of earls court centre....they will use olympia
for ideal home exhibition.....we went there as a child.little own train
to go in the side of the huge centre...but earls ct has been
comfortable.rich blue carpeted.....free samples etc..lovely houses to go
round ..travel the countries of the world..listen to talks by alan
whicker etc..cook demos...technology...autumn 2012 earl s
demolish.after olympics volley ball..77 acres to be 7500 homes park
businesses....we won gazette free tickets front row at earls for phil
collins and his groups..drums famous songs.was wonderful....street
parties the wedding if insurance needed £50 for 30-40 people.......our
lovely photo of greenford ave street party on our board from mr
thompson..happy crowd on tressels..ve day..not need insurance
then..coronation parties....1977 was nice yr of parties for silver of
the queen and 50th in london with gold coach and st james pk huge
screens and party activities...pop concert picnic..by the palace ... more >>
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 19-Mar-2011
I used to go the Motor Shows and Motorcycles shows at Earle Court in the 50s.
The only other time I went there was in 1955, when I took my first ever girlfriend to see the Red Army Choir.
My Dad would take my to the Schoolboys Own Exhibition. I believe it was at the Royal Horticultural hall, but I'm not certain
- Re: general
by John W (Member 10082501) on 19-Mar-2011
My Dad took me to the Earls Court
Motor show and we had lunch there. To this day I remember him buying me
'Peach Melba', tinned peaches with one of those small cylindrical Lyons
Ice creams on top for dessert, what we would call afters in those days,
dessert was a bit posh. Quite a luxury, we were easily impressed back
then.
- Re: general
by John W (Member 10082501) on 19-Mar-2011
Found this link to the School Boys Own Exhibition.
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=68186
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Mar-2011
thanks for link john..yes
motorshows all yrs till now.......so good earls centre..out the big main
doors and tube opposite...but the olympia halls are huge...funny little
own train...goes off at its own station.........every year a travel
show..huge every country..stands...always get free ticket in
post........good day out......free orchids one year from
singapore.....talks films...celebrities......
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Mar-2011
Does anyone remember the
motorcycle gang that hungout at the cafe in Handwell broadway
nr trolly bus garage before the war approx 1935ish.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Mar-2011
John i whent to the school boys own exib. bought a book on railways still have it
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2011
they did tomorrows world
exhibition few yrs at exhibition halls...bbc tv and science
establishments,,,,tony worked for national physical laboratory.....was
gt fun to chat to the chaps on that stall...old times and the famous
scientists..they worked with there..moved things forward so well.great
advancements.....broadband helps to get flickr photos of our site....ace
cafe northcircular famous motorbikes
photo there....broadway cafe hanwell high street photo there..near
kings clock...1930s with old bus there near stores.think home and
colonial....... ... more >>
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Mar-2011
We all whent Ace cafe 1959 now now open as it was frully restored, similar cafe Hanwell broadway 1930s
- Re: general
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Mar-2011
Denis - my youngest daughter and
her husband have both got Harleys and meet up with the bikers at ACE
cafe. I couldn't believe that my daughter loves motor bikes, and was
told she was a natural, as you wouldn't catch me on one. Having said
that, it must be in the blood as my mother was riding her own motorbike
in the 1920's.
- Re: general
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 21-Mar-2011
Where was the Ace Cafe was it the
one on the corner of Syon Lane and Great West Road, I used to go there
for a cold drink when we went out cycling.
- Re: general
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 21-Mar-2011
Zeta the Ace cafe was on the North Circular Rd.did you know the Gibbs in Berwick Ave.?
- Re: general
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Mar-2011
Re: The ACE Cafe - the one my two go to is on the North Circular, near Wembley.
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2011
yes they call it north of acton
willesdon way.wembly..1938 northcircular rd,,bombed at the war..photos
on their site on google....the well known cafe on corner syon
lane....was in the press a lot to save it as it was well known so many
yrs and a landmark...when e used to work gt west rd ..I worked beechams
library..it was always turn at gillettes...pubs etc were
landmarks......think it is still and
old cafe corner zeta...but not much..nothing much to speak of there
anymore....last yr west mid hospital at last new buildings..and the old
workhouse original...near the corner of syon...was pulled down with TB
balconies etc...big graveyard still out the back...new modern huge
offices down gt west rd...flash lucozade is back at the huge flyover
now.....xmas trees used to be gt .better than oxford st london...the
golden mile...my aunt said you could go in one gate come out ...no
vacancy ...and go in the next one get job..factories along..firestones
cousin worked... ... more >>
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Mar-2011
Dad used to take me to the model engineering exib. that was the Royal horticultural hall in the 1950s.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Mar-2011
Pauline good for your daughter
tell her to enjoy im nearly 70 and drive a 2 seat sports
car. Zeta i think the cafe you mean Zion/Great west was the
Better hole named a WW1 trench, The Ace is at Stonebridge park
there were piles of rubble across the road from the Blitz
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Mar-2011
Back to the Then & now books Winston G Ramsey The Ace Cafe Then and Now from your Library.
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2011
thanks denis zeta....yes thats
the cafe opposite gillettes,,been just big petrol garage now some
yrs.........the dome another famous corner garage further along
east....see gt photos...on .....flickr photostream hensinki 275
brentford...............sperry ...better ole transport
cafe...1933....yes war trenches..ha......pyrene ...trico...packford
factory v2 bombed 1945.....1964 flyover built....I worked
lucozade research library there....macleans photos.I worked
there......page 12..there........still say xmas trees were good golden
mile.....so my little cafe a landmark for many yrs...is further down on
east corner by syon house lane as twickenham rd goes west there at west
mid hosp...... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2011
marvellous map there pauline of
ealing broadway..after rail came in 1830s.......southall of broadway
mall were all fields orchards down to brentford..my gtgtgdad
walker..moved into there.........but at 1860 on lilley skinners big
corner opposite bentalls....was railway hotel.......1880 they built big
sandringham parade and bond st.....where our bus stop is at modern
cinema..forum on uxbridge rd...so
3 cinemas....with walpole 1912 cinema bond st and your lyric restaurant
palladium hippodroe cinema up by abc cafe corner..opposite bank and old
north star pub traffic lights.....high st 65 bus stop
there..christchurch..there..with library next door to it...now a parade
of shops............w t booker ran the railway hotel pub 46 high st
ealing w5............railway hotel glassy now....mrs f wilson ran 97
south rd....southall.....photo s trico on that photostream...firestones
my cousin worked...library table display of firestones tyre
...trico..pyrene etc...there...........better ole...shell garage many
yrs..gt big corner..1935 before gillettes built lots long trucks
there......packard famous steps facade wallis gilbert art deco...and v2
bomb smashed photo....macleans on later rank..film studios..my neighbour
worked..then beechams there had lucozade and mccleans and
antibiotics..worked there 5yrs library..their own private...tunnel under
rd to go restaurant lunch.beechams...then after long struggle glaxo
smith klein...mergers... ... more >>
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Mar-2011
Gt. West Rd 1930s Hudson cars, 1950s Firestone tyres dad worked at both.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Mar-2011
The G.W.R reached Southall 1838.
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2011
yes ealing broadway ad
it..southall...and ..the brentford branch line...says southall level
crossing at first then later bridge ..ticket office platform.......like
that...hayes seems to show level crossing.....gods wonderful railway lot
to answer for.......rail did more change than canal...massive
changes..loads bricks to build it all up ..from tiny little hamlet
southall green..nans granddad...born 1806 southall green couple farms there wingrove......... ... more >>
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 23-Mar-2011
thanks Dennis the Better Hole, one forgets, I worked at Sperry's from
1948 to 1955, and used to ride my bike to work through Syon Lane to the
Gt West Rd, when I went home in 1994 they had demolished Sperry's I
couldn't believe it, and my Mum used to knit for Paton and Baldwins
which was just further along from Sperry's she did sample knitting for
Stitchcraft and got 8 shillings to knit the sleeves and back and fronts, the company put them together. ... more >>
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 23-Mar-2011
Dennis the GWR was a great line.
Going to Devon or Cornwall we would take the 10:30 'Cornish Riviera'
from Paddington. Enjoying a nice meal in the restaurant car. Quite
different from today with stale sandwiches and paper cups.
I hear today's 'First Great Western' is a poor successor to the old GWR.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Mar-2011
John used to go engine
spotting Paddington mid 50s saw Cornish Riviara many times
always pulled by King George V which is still running to day,
Zeta my mum was always knitting she would put wool aside at
Mr Gurneys wool shop Lady Marg. parade
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Mar-2011
John still get a buzz when i
see a preserved Gods Wonderfull loco Kings Castles Halls
Manors Beutiful engines.
- Re: general
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 24-Mar-2011
Denis I spent ten years on the
Travelling Post Office Kings Cross to Newcastle we were pulled by the
Mallard on one occasion in the good old days of steam.
- Re: general
by John W (Member 10082501) on 24-Mar-2011
During the school holidays we
would spend all day trainspotting. Usually at the end Brent Rd, there
was an open field there then.
The footbridge near Southall Station and stand above the trains waiting
to be covered by the steam and smoke coming from the engine's funnel. At
that time I never imaged I would be traveling to Cornwall myself on the
'Cornish Riviera' myself. I did have a book called the '10:30 Limited' when I was a boy, I wish I still had it.
My grandfather was an engine driver for LNER, he drove many of the main
line trains, including Mallard. As a boy I would wait on Kings Cross
Station for his train coming in. He would take me up on the footplate, a
thrill for a young boy.
This summer I'll be in France and the UK and looking forward to taking the Eurostar from Paris to St Pancras.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Mar-2011
Len i live about 10mins walk
from the strech of track where Mallard did its record run on
the approch to Peterbouogh, when you see the whats running on
the same track today makes you think.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Mar-2011
John we stood on Southall
footbridge to get coverd in steam and sooty water, been to
France twice once train second time boat tunnel fast like boat
better Did Normandy. Remember return to Paddington 11d
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Mar-2011
It was nice to have old memories of the GWR(In the early years, the wags termed it "Great Way Round".
My dad was a keen angler, and many fishing trips used the GWR to
various places on the Thames. There were a number of branch lines: West
Drayton to Staines, also Uxbridge, Slough to Windsor. I never travelled
on the Brentford branch as a lad. However I went on an excursion
1993/1994 on the branch as far as the Great West Road.
From 1948-1951 I was a full time student at the Northern Poly.
Travelled from Southall to Paddington, thence by underground. No
cancellations in 3 years. My train usually terminated on Platform 15,
adjacent to the the east bound Met line on platform 16. On cold days, I
used to stay in the warm compartment until the met train came in. ... more >>
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Mar-2011
Can remember the Morris G.P.O vans busy around Paddinton station with mails,
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Mar-2011
Remember the engine turntable at the back of Southall engine sheds is it still there.
- Re: general
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Mar-2011
The first time I have ever seen
an Engine Turntable was when we spent a week at York and visited The
National Railway Museum. I found it really interesting. In fact, the
whole Museum was marvellous. I went because my husband wanted to see it,
but I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it, especially the older
trains.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Mar-2011
Pauline ive also been to York very intersting good day out.
- Re: general
by John W (Member 10082501) on 26-Mar-2011
I've been to York several times, but never to the Railway Museum, this year I'll have to make a special effort.
I have seen the turntable at the Southall engine sheds. There was a
tunnel under the railway leading to the back entrance to the AEC.
The field between the sheds and the AEC was another place we used to
hang out as boys, trainspotting and generally playing around. I found a
detonator there, the
type strapped to the rails and used to warn the driver during foggy
days. We dropped a big rock on it to set it off, and the explosion was
more than we expected, very frightening and foolish.
There are some very good photos of the Southall engine sheds on flickr. Just type in Southall and scroll through to them. ... more >>
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 26-Mar-2011
The trip from Southall Station to
Paddington was a regular thing for me during the war. My Mother would
take me to see my Grandparents in Highgate.
Take train to Paddington and then a No 27 Bus to Highgate, past Regents
Park, the Craven A cigarette factory with the big black cat statues
outside. There was an antique shop we passed with a suit of Armour in
the window, why I still remember that I don't know.
Coming home it was always dark, during the blackout the blinds in the
carriage were pulled down the lights dimmed and the station names
removed so you had to know where you were to get off. The compartments
were full of servicemen who always chatted to my Mum, many from
overseas.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Mar-2011
John we hung out there, do yu remember the A.E.C own diesel shunter thro the gates under the footbridge.
- Re: general
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Mar-2011
John/Denis. I remember that AEC
shunter well-often stood on that footbridge. Other memories of fishing
trips-using the GWR to Iver and Langley to fish in the canal.Also
Marlow via Maidenhead on the GWR.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Mar-2011
Then youl remember the G.W.R
railcar that ran to Brentford was brown & cream could be
driven from both ends
- Re: general
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 28-Mar-2011
denis- I remember those GWR rail cars.-never travelled on the Brentford branch. Which year did passenger services stop?
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Mar-2011
Mike i dont think it was
used for passengers i was told it was used for mail, i
belive there wernt many of them about.
- Re: general
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 29-Mar-2011
Denis-thanks. There were some
passenger versions of these about-largely on branch lines in lieu of
"push and pulls". Passenger trains on the Brentford line may well have
stopped at the end of the war, if not sooner.
- Re: general
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 29-Mar-2011
Denis-have looked up the Brentford branch-it closed to passengers in 1942.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Mar-2011
Thanks mike i wonder if the railcar was on passengers up to that date
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Mar-2011
Mike 3 G.W.R railcars preserved 1 Swindon. 1 Kent East Sussex Ry. 1 Didcot. all A.E.C built ran 1933/62
- Re: general
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 30-Mar-2011
Denis-thanks. As I understand it,
the number of passengers decreased markedly after the opening of the
Trlley bus route from Hanwell Broadway to Brentford.
- Re: general
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 30-Mar-2011
John if you go to York the train
museum is fantastic and also the Viking Museum that is very well done, I
believe they have uncovered more of the history of the Vikings there.
Have you done the wall walk around the city, that is lovely.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Mar-2011
Zeta i did the wall walk
around York when i live up north, have you been in the castle
museum that is very good to.
- Re: general
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 31-Mar-2011
Hi Dennis, no I didn't do that,
my family come from around Helmsley, and I have just lost an Uncle at 94
who was a farmer near Low Wood Sour Leys and when he retired he went to
live in one of Lord Feversham's cottages in Rievaulx his was right next
to the Abbey, have you been there.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Mar-2011
Zeta sorry to hear that, i lived in Lancashire so dont know the area you mention.
- Re: general
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Mar-2011
My husband and I spent a week at
York many years ago, and once we had parked the car, we walked
everywhere. As I've already said, we visited the National Railway
Museum, but we also went to the Viking Centre a couple of times (and got
the full whiff). I loved just standing on the Bridge overlooking the
River Ouse at the magnificent sight of all the wildlife. There was a
huge hotel called Queens further
across the river, and it is a picture that I can still visualise after
all those years. The place I loved visiting the most however, was York
Minster. It is so beautiful, with its medieval stained glass windows. We
went back there several times as there is so much to see inside.
Walking down all the ancient alleyways, you almot felt you were back in
the past. ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 31-Mar-2011
Pauline has reawakened a memory
of many years ago. I had gone to a conference in York-I was due to speak
on the Saturday morning, so travelled up to York, had dinner at the
hotel, and went to bed. The view from my room was beautiful-it
overlooked the River Ouse, lovely in the moonlight. There was however a
catch!
It would have been in May of that year, so got light at about 5am-you couldn't hear yourself think-let alone sleep, for the quacking of the hoards of ducks! ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Mar-2011
york minster amazing..bosses up
high and blue peter tv designed one..so huge the minster and huge circle
rose stained glass...my 2 cousins lived there several yrs..we went in
castle museum etc.and vikings..shambles the famous alley ancient
medieval lean over street butchers...2 gt rivers there her husband
fished but they do suffer floods......scarborough brid hornsea
beverley.hull new aquarium..also
gt humber bridge...went to howarth did o level bronte wuthering
heights..moors were good and parsonage...my cousins kids of being
londoners now yorkshire accent and swindon wilts...ha... ... more >>
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Apr-2011
Yvonne been to Howarth many
times lived about 15mls from there, hold a 40s weekend every
May all dress 40s trucks jeeps ect.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Apr-2011
wish not so far away.would go to
the 40s.....kept so well there...lovely little bks on tiny table they
wrote and out on moor..have photos I took of the steep hill street
etc...so lucky to go enjoyed it so...my favourite book..we have contact
yorkshire since 1950s..when my cousin went to training in
hull......glad you lived up that way....cousin wife was york girl 1920s
married .....1930 lived carlyle
ave but he died age 31 buried next to nan .havelock..she went back to
york 3 little kids.we visted her when elderly...... leeds was amazing
market....beverley abbey...whitby..etc etc..etc...lots know of
yorkshire...sheffield we were supposed to move to 1980s..so VERY.glad
not....another turn of career and stayed....tony has been much
happier...I would have died stuck barnsley sheffield..january interview
we went all up gt big hills.deep snow in city never seen
before...ha.....blue john caves mauve beauty rare stone was gt and peak
district but...... ... more >>
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Apr-2011
Also spent time Peaks
history crashed aircraft, good you didnt move stay put lived
Lancs. many years should have stayed south.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Apr-2011
Have photos of hill 40s weekend will bring to Norwood Green.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Apr-2011
thanks yes photos........yes we
were told advantages move but..heart and gut said no..lucky turn career
to best and we did not..tony could never have stood it either....peaks
are lovely..cousin went asbourne a whilt...bakewell tart
area..chatesworth gt...my cousin went milford haven..says what mistake
she did....the swindon ones never return would never ...1958 to green
quiet..most of their lives ..they enjoy it..australia one in bad way...but has had gt benefits had advantages as well...but... ... more >>
- Re: general
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Apr-2011
The mention of Bakewell took me
back. One of my family lives in Derbyshire, and the last time I was
there we visited Bakewell, and after a short walk we came upon a large
bridge which overlooked the Derwent River and the greatest abundance of
wildlife I have ever seen. Much, much more than those on the River Ouse
in Yorkshire. There must have been hundreds of paople picknicking or
just sitting on seats
enjoying the scene along the banks of the river. There was so much life
there. It was quite comical to watch the various antics of the birds.
We also went to a Country Fair at Chatsworth House on a beautiful sunny
day with large balloons overhead. The one drawback there was the
horrendous queue for the toilets - those awful ones put up specially.
The mention of Derbyshire always reminds me now of "Pride &
Prejudice" with the famed Darcy emerging out of the lake, all dripping
wet after his swim - OOoooh! Lyme Hall, which is technically in
Cheshire, provided the exterior shots of "Pemberley" where Elizabeth
& Darcy strolled through the 1,400 acre park, and Sudbury Hall,
Derbyshire was used for the interior. Jane Austen wrote her novel in
Bakewell, while staying in Derbyshire. Ask any lady who saw the film
which bit they liked the best, and they all say "Darcy" coming out of
the Lake! This was our wonderful actor Colin Firth again. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Apr-2011
yes wonderful darcy thanks that
austen wrote it up there..we tried the bakewell real pudding.....the
tallest shoot of fountain chatsworth made for zsar visit and he never
turned up and cascade is gt....lucky to have so much water
derbyshire...denise lived ashbourne yrs....football match down
st..ancient...a level.school in recent yrs..young good english
teachers...lady who was moving on leaving promotion...darcy
colin in wet shirt photos in all ladies staff toilets..on her
presentation gifts she confessed ...it was me that put them..ha...all
male teachers and head did not know what talking of...ha...........colin
well deserved oscar clever man his nice brunette wife..dress made from
seperate bits at oscar ceremony..best ever pride prejudice..lizzie was
as well.and ma....Bath we went to last yr was so good our 2nd
visit...museum of her small hse is gt..all the dresses..everything on
display..and annual they send me email of festival walks around streets
in costume ..so elegant...she and her brother at portsmouth..he was
navy....tour of country queen victoria visits is gd bbc2 and cook
meals...like all tv programmes that take us round our beautiful
country... ... more >>
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 1-Apr-2011
I know that part of Yorkshire
quite well, I was stationed at RAF Leconfield near Beverley. That's
where I met my wife, 50 years married this year.
My wife still has two sisters and three brothers living in the Hull - Beverley area.
Zeta there is the well known Star Inn near Helmsley,featured in the 'Dales Dairy'.
The Dales was a TV series, I have several of the DVDs.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Apr-2011
congratulations 50 yrs..beverley
minster beautiful..cousin married into hull family..always says never
come back traffic of london..stubbs of 1900s off holderness rd..marjory
worked at the military servics during the war as cook for all the men
stationed,,near bases..johnson...,gt cook yorkshire pudding...john was
on bp supertankers..trained hull ...fantastic humber bridge now...new
aquarium...huge.......my
aunt up there went to tv emmerdale..and countdown game show audience
up there coach trip...further over james herriott country..my library
had all his bks......cold that east coast..kate loved london being
warmer...they had the black range stove hull,,,warm clothes before
school........get the erosion along east coast hornsea way...scarborough
brid still lovely... ... more >>
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 1-Apr-2011
Hi John, the only pub I remember
is the Feathers in Helmsley, that's because my Uncle had his 50th
wedding Ann there, and I got to meet all the family for the 1st time, I
was adopted and only found out where I came from in 1992, it's beautiful
there, always thought my parents would have been Londoners being born
in Hampstead, it was a surprise to one and all.
- Re: general
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 1-Apr-2011
The Dales Diaries, we didn't have
that here - we do have Emmerdale Farm but it's not up to date, like
Coro Street we are something like 15 maybe more months away, but we
love it. We you the National Service or WW2.
- Re: general
by John W (Member 10082501) on 1-Apr-2011
Zeta I was National Service.
National Service ended whilst I was still in, if only I had got a
further years deferment I would have avoided it, but on balance it was
part of life experience, and I have no regrets.
I'm able to download lots of current British TV from the internet.
Emmerdale, Eastenders, Corrie and many other great British series. From
'uknova.com' check it out.
If you are interested and need help, contact me at "jowoo22@hotmail.com"
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Apr-2011
helmsley north yorkshire..best
wishes zeta john..eden camp famous museum of war base there..cant
remember which base my cousin s motherinlaw was cook for during the
war...he worked railway career hull.so kate came to london often visit
us free travel.famous kings cross those stations have all been
refurbished now...dont know the dales tv programme wonder if it was only
shown by leeds network tv up
there...mrs dales diary jessie matthews radio..she is buried ruislip
church memorial stone.soho girl...archers our leeds friends listened to
all their lives ,queen and q mum always did..I worked broadcasting hse
oxford circus and good audience tickets in their sound studios..and they
put sound track of last summer wine there too.met the actors ..so
good......they tour herriot..and emmerdale coach trips up
there....coundown is good from leeds....2 my cousins only just caught
the national service...my cousin from southall.1970 alberta canada has
his 97 yr old southall mum with him..I have been sworn to secrecy
corrie..they watch sundays...far behind..and not allowed to say
anything..wills kate go there 9days 1st tour...digital..our radio tv so
much possible on computer etc now...barry our hayes member was
adopted..he been trying to trace his biological dad played in a
band..all these yrs looking.......raymond family were of of southall
green.early 1900s.. ... more >>
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Tudor Road School
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 15-Mar-2011
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Do you remember someone coming around to the school and measuring our
feet, my Mum said "stretch those toes" of course I didn't have to I took
a 3 and I can't remember if we got 7 extra coupons or more
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 15-Mar-2011
I went to North Road school and I
do remember the class having their feet measured. I can't remember if
children with feet under or over a certain size benefitted - I didn't
come into the required category so no help towards my next pair of
shoes!
- Re: Tudor Road School
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Mar-2011
Hello Zeta i remember our feet and hight being measured at Lady Margaret Rd.
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
denis just got reply back
straight away from lawrence....yes more the merrier.he has said
today....I will let them know...if 3 tickets......free no cost ...heston
community residents....thurs 7.30 pm...19 may......will find out
exactly where,,must be the hall there...90 mins talk.....time for
questions.....refreshments there.....powerpoint photos
pictures...projector....importance of heston in british
aviation history 1929.to 1978.....good weather may and light
evening.......let them know for number seats required by 30 march...so I
can let them know....ok......so will put here any more info
soon.....mike would love it..lawrence he came to the norwood green
fete..you would like him very much lifetime of heston airport he is
dedicated to..clever chap.......but long way heston and late
evening.........phylis may like.......or anybody...... ... more >>
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 15-Mar-2011
So sorry Yvonne, I've been so
busy lately I have got behind with what's been going on with the
Southall bunch. Just picked up about a meeting on 19 May, but
regrettably I already have church meeting in my diary for that date.
I'll try and keep up in future!
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
thanks phylis...was sure you
would be busy..you are amazing with all the work you do and full
diary...not to worry..will take notes..let you know all lovely
bits........pity...lawrence remembers you well at the fete...he is
clever chap..such nice person.....he is coming from leatherhead ..so he
has a long drive home...like poor denis..talk 90 mins ..so..not too
late...and off to motorway..take care...refreshments there.....be great if josie june jimmy can make it.comfy seats..if jimmy well enough.... ... more >>
- Re: Tudor Road School
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Mar-2011
God bless Yvonne you really
are a star look forward to it lets hope petrols not a £1000 a
litre by then.
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
yes wicked price petrol..dont
know what made me think late summer...ha....memory not good...read too
much...take too much in then get less memory ..ha.....probably be at
heston village hall..was fentons hall..in front of heston park new
heston rd.along from british legion...it is the usual size village
hall.reasonable size comfort......by the library swim pool. got car park
there......there is a hall
by opposite church and school ...also that hall...so will find out..for
sure............barry might turn up..so we will see.....all the
best....think there is fish chip shop opposite as well..that heston
library was closed last yr 9mths for revamp...often computers they have
to put in..get free ancestry geneology site etc...3 ealing libraries
gazette says closing..£55 million..ealing cuts council...to save....so
hanwell closing south ealing and west ealing closing.........rare to get
whole thing on heston airport ..so wont get chance again........but do
take care the long driving.....
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- Re: Tudor Road School
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
funny thing about tony he is not
so connected to heston airport as others of us.but he likes it all....a
feltham lad..so his back garden to the right... concorde used to go over
down whole side of his garden 4pm quite regularily..double glazing
early on put in....heathrow roads traffic they had to put up
with......hounslow heath he walked played near him..river crane....and
age 7 or so ....played sticklebacks
waterboatmen newts....unbalanced fell over into it hit head..was old
tin red paint.in river there......home to parents..they could not tell
blood from paint...ha...all ok though....golf balls there his dad walked
heath every day with 2 big dogs..... ... more >>
- Re: Tudor Road School
by John W (Member 10082501) on 15-Mar-2011
Yvonne, I remember crowds of
people standing on top of the mounds behind Wentworth Rd to watch a De
Havilland Vampire Jet, piloted by Geoffrey De Haviland, land at Heston
Airport.
I have never heard any mention of this on the Board does anyone else recollect this?
Here is a link to a web page that has a lot of interesting info about Heston Airport.
http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/342968-heston-wartime-crahes-incidents.html
Knowhere Guide isn't very link friendly, but if you copy and paste this link into your web browser address it should work. ... more >>
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
thanks john will send it to our
heston airport expert lawrence hole age 70 ish..lived just off the
airport as child...archive of it all ever since..really serious study
archive...nice person we members met at norwood green fete...he has us
going to his presentation..talk projector etc 19 may..he lives
leatherhead now....rare chance to hear all heston airport lucky to have
the chance..heston hall..he
used to cycle into the back of the airport by his
hse,,1950s........wish you did not live america..you said coming for
wedding anniversary ..not july/ may... by any chance..but heston norwood
green is a distance......will look at your link here,,thanks..my dad
and 6 siblings born and still playing over those mounds 1914 to 1928..
ha ..lived mt pleasant cluster of dwellings by old oak pub between the
rec...that square there now flats oak flats,,,,,,,,photos of wentworth
on our boards..and all areas there the old hse on slope of oak hump
bridge has been demolished.......31 boards photos now..........thankyou
very best wishes to the family....... ... more >>
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
yes denis mike..all.....for quick
just put in pprune org aviation heston war aircrashes..in google and
there..........a forum....thanks very much.........friend 80 yrs old
sonia was bombeed out cranford lane .airport and fairy they wanted..she
still lives there attends heston church every sunday.......said heston
bit of..cranford lane war blocked off could not go down there.....thanks
so much john.....my
family loved living near you..played canal and rec....footpath to rising
sun pub cranford lane through fields........1926 gdad with whole crowd
of locals on my photo outside the oak pub easter charabanc trip southend
threw farthings to the kids........ ... more >>
- Re: Tudor Road School
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Mar-2011
Thank John didnt know of
G.DH landing a Vampire at Heston, also your crashes know of 1
Cranford Park and 2 Osterly park on approach or landing
Heston will follow up.
- Re: Tudor Road School
by John W (Member 10082501) on 15-Mar-2011
I'll be in the UK the month of
July, but will be in Yorkshire the whole time. My wife's family live
there, I have no close family in the south anymore.
I met my wife when I was in the RAF stationed in Yorkshire.
My cousins son recently retired from the RAF after 30 years, he was a Flight Engineer, flying in C130 Hercules aircraft.
He had an interesting career flying all over the world, both
in war zones and humanitarian relief. I guess his RAF career begin at
Heston Airport with the ATC. During the war I lived in Queens Rd with
his mother, my cousin, she had the same birthday as the Queen and served
in the ATS during the war.
... more >>
- Re: Tudor Road School
by John W (Member 10082501) on 15-Mar-2011
Looking closer at the PPRuNe web
site I notice AWF118 is the same age as me and went to the same school,
Norwood Green Juniors. I was there 1945 to 1948. I wonder if I know him?
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
john will send email off to
lawrence hole now...he has been doing the forums etc all his life..lived
meadow way..went through back fence into airport..has very professional
archive all his life...age 70 ish...went to berkely school
primary........age 7/10 into back of airport 1950 he talks of...be great
for you 2 to talk so much in common....john w what surname....around
july 10 saturday a date is
norwood green fete,,but as you say yorkshire...my cousin wife from
hull...her mum was cook in war to servicemen..bases ..marvellous
yorkshire puddings etc cook.....johnson their name......uncles birhday
same as queen 21 april..he worked southall gas works near queens
rd....our kates family from dudley st party wedding clarence st ...will
tell lawrence hole of you.....my dad worked heston airport british
eagle.when he got back from war then boac then retired from
BA.......lawrence spends all his time for many yrs ..writes papers..and
has all his contacts aircraft...so you could have a great chat..... ... more >>
- Re: Tudor Road School
by John W (Member 10082501) on 15-Mar-2011
You can find me Friends reunited. Norwood Green School 1948. Heston Community School 1952.
I haven't been able to find Southallboards on flickr
I did contact you once through Friends Reunited.
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
oh thanks john..myself
acres..will look find you...lawrence hole is on reunited berkely primary
cranford lane heston.....so he would be so pleased to hear from
you.......your email messages would come up to
him..quickly....there...may 19th he travels from leatherhead to give
his talk at heston....he works on his subject all the year.......about
your age...but of course you came under southall for
sch.norw green he came under heston........funny history had all
northhyde and wentworth area as parish heston..for ever,.,,,then the
blur came...ha...dreaded UB2......postcode.....ha......lawrence hole the
name..good luck...he is very nice person indeed ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
john you asked flickr.....top
left www.flickr.com......click enter...............click sign
in............ID so
type....southallboard31@yahoo.co.uk.............password so
type.............middlesex31.................click sign
in..............click photostream..............................there are
31 boards ...use each number going back to first board.......let us
know if ok or problem......best wishes
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by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 17-Mar-2011
Bob you want to check your spelling there is no e in canal you told Dear Yvonne to read before she writes just a thought
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Mar-2011
Wow, Where and how did Len find
the Martinware? I now look in fleamarkets and junk shops etc, but
never found anything like it. Good luck to him.
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 17-Mar-2011
Keith it goes under the hammer in April at Chiswick House Auction rooms
- Re: Tudor Road School
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Mar-2011
Thanks Len, but did you find it
at a car boot or a flea market? Or at a proper shop? Did the vendor
know what it was? Most people don;t know the significance of
Martinware. Last year I came up to London and saw a good display in
Kingston museum which might be a permanent display.
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Mar-2011
the borough ealing display at
pitsanger has gone off site several yrs ago now..280 pieces..were
donated by gundry who was born southall.and friends with them....but bad
break in ..was lucky went there 10 yrs ago saw all the fountain from
manor park and huge heavy greens of martinware fireplace..and cabinets
all smaller items went back 2 yrs ago and empty rooms still
locked.up..waiting for money for
secure place site to display...albert memoorial museum has a small
collection aquired by another friend of the brothers....1870 1890 pieces
the famous grotesque sculptures..etc..as denis said on the old soap
works by canal.havelock..1881 my gt uncle came out of hounslow barracks
10yrs india.army.married local cranford lane girl..was born to
staffordshire potter..where he had worked and went to work for the
brothers through norwood green across the bridge..died xmas 1912 buried
heston church.wallbanks..some pieces are seen on antique roadshow
tv,,brothers buried havelock ... more >>
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 18-Mar-2011
OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR IN
ALEXANDRA AVE DAUGHTER WAS BORN I936 IN FROGMORE NURSING HOME IN NORWOOD
GREEN NEXT TO THE POLICE STATION
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THANKS TO YVONNE
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 13-Mar-2011
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I would like to take this ooportunity to say a BIG THANK YOU to
Yvonne's ongoing contributions to this friendly site. Yvonne has worked
tirelessly to keep the site going with interesting & thought
provoking memories. Well done Yvonne.........you are our STAR !!!
Chris x
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Mar-2011
I also second that. Thanks Yvonne for all the help you have given us all.
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 13-Mar-2011
I think those two genlemen should apologise to our Yvonne for their remarks well done Chris and Pauline you are stars as well
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Mar-2011
oh dont...lots love..you are
great friends....tony just found freeview channel 301 on tv,,it was the
radio 2 olivier awards over 2 hrs drury lane london...wonderful night of
the best music and song.london stage and broadway...have found for
phylis sally scarbrow if related to you 1950s with janet roberts
.aspell..sheila.in southall park..photo on board27....,,and noticed some
other things today will put on site next few weeks but workmen on the go at the moment..terrible...ha..thanks pauline chris len.all ... more >>
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Mar-2011
Yvonne please dont take these
statments to heart we know the great worth you are to this
site of ours and the amount of work you put in to it, as
you said a short while ago what a helpful and polite site
we have.
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Mar-2011
Just to add my thanks to Yvonne from you all-she is a tower of strength
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 14-Mar-2011
Yes Yvonne thanks for all the info, Len is right those two chaps should apologise, very poor taste
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 14-Mar-2011
sorry I mean Mike well alot of others too feel the same way, you do a good job.
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2011
oh too shy to open site
today..thanks and thanks also..to bob and fred...was so good to hear of
dwellings next to oak pub...I have put your special info with my
geneology and hope to hear more from you both....1950 perhaps new oak
flats went up..did you see the old dwellings 13 of them in the 40s...nan
and dad were number 13 mt pleasant..between the rec and the oak
pub....youngest doll was 3 and they
moved like many did to the north southall new houses..1928....but hubby
and I took them back 1979 and the photo of all the regina and common
local men was by the bar as it always had been...gdads outing easter to
southend charabanc photo on our boards...bet the pub has lost theirs
now..the landlord jo dines is standing next to gdad rotund belly bright
white shirt....thanks bob fred keep the nostalgia fine memories
coming...thankyou always..kindest regards to you both and dear mike and
denis also....denis... lawrence who chatted to you at the fete..has
invited tony and I to his talk he is doing of heston airport..he has
lifetime archive .he showed josie in the plough pub......hope the date
late summer will be ok..if we are able to go.....will take all notes and
let you heston airbuffs know all..mike included.......have a glorious
spring day...flowers blossom pussy willow catkins everywhere....the only
other sites in the country except ours is cuckoonites hanwell very kind
gorgeous site and frith photos and memories .and hayeshillingdon.com
run by dear friend barry.excellent have a look at it...hayes and
villages and uxbridge and surrounds there......... ... more >>
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Mar-2011
Hi Yvonne that date late
summer is that for Lawrences talk or N/Wood Green, is the
talk by invitation only, thanks.
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by josie (Member 10235627) on 14-Mar-2011
Hello Yvonne,just to say thank
you for your input,keep up the good work..you are the backbone of this
site..regards Josie June & Jimmy.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2011
dear denis when he lets us know
will ask if 3 poss sure be ok let you know straight away see if you can
fit it in...think he said late summer..good thanks...dear josie jimmy
june..all very best to you thanks..photos new halth and library jubilee
on our photos...big hug to jimmy june..travelling eye video film on
google clever goes along western rd brent rd to king st....new dormers
started build feb
costing millions..my cousin says has got swim pool already...I went to
heston pool....photos of old derelict feathers primary on our
boards,,,clarence on tv daily reporter sarah harris...in hses talk og 2
blue plaques..goldsmiths chandler.dot being harrison.....photo of
wedding 1953 trinity on our boards but says reception hambrough pub..so
dots family must have lived along off broadway somewhere .she was about
19yrs old
tom eliz and a younger sister harrison..then 1966 kates gran 1964 got a
council flat then deposit morgage for norwood green for 25yrs...bbc
camera went in 3 horseshoes and spoke to ian mckie ..brian west
clarence,,said that was the wedding pub..but biography from the uxbridge
tomlinson relatives says hambrough.pub..aug 1953....aunt doll got
married there 1953........photo of your old cottage house on our board
my cousin went passed there once thought she saw scaffolding...photo
1900 on ours of high street when still 21 old cottages starting to be
changed into shops.with old red lion inn.....you are a star thanks
josie.. ... more >>
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Mar-2011
Thank you Yvonne thats very good of you.
- Re: THANKS TO YVONNE
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Mar-2011
Yes thanks for all your very interesting hard work Yvonne
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2011
best wishes keith lovely to hear
you......len bought a martinware...plymouth...now has it at chiswick
auction....thats nice it has come home fulham and southall martin
brothers they were...america may well buy it though/...lots canal water
ways on tv lately...barge repairs etc..sunday was6.30 pm
narrowboats..bob remember s 1940s 50s the swans nesting at that turning
hole by old oak pub 202 hump bridge.regina
by northhyde..dec 2009 they demolished bridge hse there..brickmakers
owner old hse....derelict for many yrs.....photos on our boards..but
photo taken 2005 of rare 1790ish iron plaque which bob remembers..was
torn off gone jan 2010....should have gone to canalmuseum
......grandjunction it said.limited weight bridge not for heavy weight
engines ...best wishes to you both.....thankyou..great to hear you.and
partner. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Mar-2011
The talk of canals brings to
mind top locks we spoke of George Wimpey Lancaster Rd well
thay had another dept at top locks and i belive there yard
was on ground where the soap factory that later became the
Martin bros. pottery
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by gina coles (Member 10198272) on 31-May-2011
Hello
I am new to this site but have realised straight away the dedication of
Yvonne to it so thank you in advance for anyone I may manage to contact
from my past. Gina
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jul-2011
best wishes gina...........king
st ..less known by north southall dwellers..on bus or bike..few
times...many remember fire wolf..several lived near....yes unique
site..such nice people...no others like it...and such lot chat memories
southall and local...unique..special...keep memories coming...1st page
people read daily...not get chance to read back much ..love yxx
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MR FALLON
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 13-Mar-2011
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YOUTH CLUB - TUDOR ROAD SCHOOL. Barbara....I remember MR FALLON with
affection. He was a great leader of our Youth club at Tudor Road
School. I attended the club during the late 1950's and last went there
(just for a visit) in appx 1962/3. MR FALLON spoke very clearly & I
seem to recall he had a child who was 'hard of hearing' and that is why
he pronounced his words in order that other's could lip read. I didn't go to the youth club above the shop as you mention. I'd love a copy of your DVD. Chris xxxx ... more >>
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by Barbara (Member 10258881) on 27-Mar-2011
Hi Chris - Yes that's right my
dad spoke very clearly to those who are deaf. The child you referred is
me - I'm his daughter who is deaf. I have got the DVD of the youth club
in Southall High Street - it looks fab! I will try and make a copy of
it and let you know when I've done it, I can't promise when it will be
done as things are busy for me at the moment. I am considering getting
in touch with BBC's Home Movies programme as it's a good historical piece of the social life of young people in the 1960's. Barbara ... more >>
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 12-Mar-2011
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Someone was talking about bread and mentioned Parkers, was that the
bread shop just past The Three Horse Shoes, they had a big mauve bow as
their logo, and I think it was one of the first shops to sell cut bread,
you picked out your loaf and they cut it, am I right.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Mar-2011
oh yes so good to have crusty
twist or bloomer or tin loaf and they cut it...wire cutting machine it
shot through..my nan 1950s...would hold her large tin loaf at her cross
over pinny..upright...and slice off from the top...with good serrated
bread knife her slices...top of northcott ave west corner....1907 huge
tall bakery probably flour mill high...very hot walls 1930s as was
said..of ovens ..bakery..do
you remember it...painting advert all over huge outside wall says
london prize award given bakery wedding cakes there turog brown
bread...c.t.crouch the baker.......bread and dripping .or jam....ron in
australia..know you like my bread pudding recipe......came out oven gt
currants sultanas crusty top...dark as can be.nan soaked the
bread.crusty sugar on top.....mouth water ron and all..ha.......then the
soft light colour bread butter pudding......said to be prince charles
favourite since nanny and nursery,,,,, ... more >>
- Re: General
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 12-Mar-2011
Parkers . Best bread in southall.
- Re: General
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 12-Mar-2011
John W . did you notice what i asked you? in Nostalga.
- Re: General
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 12-Mar-2011
Zeta the bakers near the Three
Horse Shoes was Hemmings Parkers were near Oswald Rd. Mrs Parker died
last year aged 91 they still have a shop in Northfields in Ealing her
sister lived in a bungalow in Allenby Rd.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Mar-2011
thanks len..parkers so local near
to us..used for decades by us..from top of alexandra ave along.....zeta
newzealand to help difficult..wonderful your memory back long
yrs.....oswald is near labour hall..along there....living bungalows
allemby my 2 class mates parents there many yrs 1940s 60s..crank..yellow
paint trim middle one and ...lynn on end one nearest dormers
school.......your son perivale..my
cousin..1979,dolls first grandchild born..,..we went to see......clear
see through cot at bed...demolished now..photo all floors levels
building on our boards.......1955 jan carole goldsmith born..1965 gary
born then 1966 moved to norw green..off thornicliffe past northyde
lane..gary was IT,but problems yrs now villa ibiza..on google all his
life..............board28 nelhams family have put their photo kath ... more >>
- Re: General
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Mar-2011
CHRIS: This message was on the site. Thought you would be interested.
Re: YOUTH CLUBS by Barbara (Member 10258881) on 7-Mar-2011
Hi I'm new to this - I googled "Southall Youth Club" and got this
website and the words "MR FALLON" (by member 10220786 - Chris on 3 Jan
2011) caught my eye. He's my father (sadly passed away in 1997) - he was
indeed a club leader and the club he operated was above
a shop in Southall High Street next door to the Odeon cinema. I found
an old cine film made by Derek Fallon, I believe it contains
theactivities of the youth club members (playing chess, playing darts,
dancing to music / group playing music - guitars & singing etc,
drinking soft drinks!) I believe this could be around 1963-1964 I am not
sure but I would be grateful if Chris could tell me what year, if she
can remember! This film is in the process of being transferred to DVD -
might take a while. Watch this post! << less
... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Mar-2011
What about List's Bakery on
Broadway great bread although the actual headquarters & ovens were
in Greenford. I worked there in 1965-66. Ted was the manager & Mrs
Evans was the shop manager.
- Re: General
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 12-Mar-2011
Polite request Yvonne, can you read what you write, because I cant.
- Re: General
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Mar-2011
gazette today..from j oates
borough librarians book..foul deeds borough ealing......nov
1941....similar to mott shootings at cumbria......this 31 yr old soldier
shot several people chiswick.acton.perivale. then west ealing bruton
way ...lady shot.......old bailey trial and life sentence.....plenty of
photos put on boards this week..........
- Re: General
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Mar-2011
I'm afraid I have to politely
agree with Bob Burnard. Notwithstanding you enormous contribution to the
site Yvonne, it is so tantalising when one reads 3 or 4 words &
then is left to guess the total meaning of the sentence. I hope you
understand.
- Re: General
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Mar-2011
There was also Price's Bakery on
the Uxbridge Road at the top of Tudor road, and the yard's access was
in Lancaster road. My brother was 13 and worked for the baker in 1949 on
a Saturday morning. He met him at 8am, and the baker had usually loaded
his cart by then. The cart was like the old style Hansom Cab, with two
large cart wheels and shafts for pulling it along manually. There were
also two small wheels at
the back to prevent it tipping over backwards, and when fully laden it
was really heavy. The baker was happy for my brother to pull it on his
own, but would take over when they came to steeper inclines. He finished
at 4.30 pm and was paid 3/6d. They always had a cup of tea and
something to eat at one of the workmen's cafes, and he said he felt
really grown up to sit with all the workmen. He eventually earned enough
to buy a fixed reel fishing spool! There was also a Price's bakers shop
opposite Northcote Avenue in the Broadway. ... more >>
- Re: General
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 12-Mar-2011
Thanks for that Len, I wasn't
sure - it did have a big mauve bow didn't or was that Parkers? also
there was a greengrocers close by, those shops were quite old weren't
they, I remember being sent to the greengrocers one cold January Sat
morning, for something or other and I had to stay there for a while and
when I eventually got home I had a new sister lying in Mum's big
armchair, Jenny was adopted I was 11 years old at the time and thought it wonderful, a baby sister. I was also adopted. ... more >>
- Re: General
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 12-Mar-2011
I do remember Prices bread
Pauline, we used to have that bread delivered, and I think it was horse
driven, people used to go out with their buckets and collect the dung.
- Re: General
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 12-Mar-2011
Hi Pauline, yes I remember now
the style of Prices bread it was like a hansom and it did have handles
you explained it very well, but I thought some did have horses maybe I
got that wrong, a long time ago.
- Re: General
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Mar-2011
Yes, I remember the dung well
Zeta. When you looked out of the window and saw a horse and a load of
steam coming up, you grabbed your bucket and shovel and out you shot!
Sometimes you were beaten to it, as everyone else wanted it for their
garden as well.
- Re: General
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Mar-2011
You're right Zeta about the horse-drawn bakers carts. We had one in our road.
- Re: General
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 13-Mar-2011
Zeta you were right about the
greengrocers they were Jewish Pauline will tell you a story about them
next door was Duvalcooked meat shop then Lewis's the sweet shop the son
served you with white gloves at the greenngrocers
- Re: General
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 13-Mar-2011
Len you have a wonderful memory, I
can only remember the greengrocers, nice to know what the other shops
were. I was home in 1970 and drove past those shops and all I can
remember was an Indian dress shop with all the saris etc., By the way
Len was it you that worked for Sperrys on the Great West Road or have I
got that wrong?
- Re: General
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 13-Mar-2011
Pauline tell me about the Jewish greengrocer shop just past the Three Horse Shoes, Len says you have a story
- Re: General
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 13-Mar-2011
Zeta the greengrocers was near
the Labour Hall I have been around a long, long, time I went to Tudor
Rd. in 1931 then in the Navy 1942 demobbed in 1946 worked at Prices
bakers left there and did 30 years on the Post Office retired in'86
spent 10 years at Ealing Magistrates Court I never worked at Sperry's I
remember the Transport cafe near rhere do you remember Janszen they had a
neon sign of a girl in a swimwear Macleans was on the corner ... more >>
- Re: General
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 13-Mar-2011
Zeta where are you living now? I live in Hayes
- Re: General
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 13-Mar-2011
With regards to local bakers.
There were originally two Parker brothers who in the late 1960s early
1970s fell out and I am not sure if it was Tom Parker who purchased
Giltrows bakery in Hounslow.
Peter List either became a local councillor for Greenford or an MP.
Woodfords bakery was near the police station. Fowlers in Weston Road and
a German/Austrian baker in KIng Street.Prices were a group with
plants in Stanmore and Eastleigh which was taken over by Rank Hovis. In
Lady Margaret Road and near the Beehive Pub were two branch's of an
Hillingdon bakery. ... more >>
- Re: General
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Mar-2011
Zeta-a number of my friends from Southall Tech worked ar Sperrys-from~1945: David Wyatt, Eric Water, Howard Pullen
- Re: General
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Mar-2011
I'm so glad Len is back on the
site. He remembers all the names of the shops we had forgotten. We were
all queueing at this greengrocers during the war that Len mentioned -
think it was called Franks, and a lady bought a load of vegetables and
then asked if she could have some bananas. Frank said they were only for
regular customers. With that, she tipped the whole lot all over the
floor and promptly walked out! Frank was not very pleased. It's something I've never forgotten. ... more >>
- Re: General
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 13-Mar-2011
There were a couple of comments
on the site about Yvonne threads we are not all Liz Jones or Peter
Hitchens this is a friendly site I can remember someone looking for a
relative back in the forties and Yvonne did a lot of spade work and got
the result the lady was looking for we are grateful for your comments
Yvonne
- Re: General
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 13-Mar-2011
Zeta Yvonne told me you live in
New Zealand I have friends on the North Island a place called Tauranga
no doubt you have heard of Jason Donovan his father came from Southall
Northcote Ave.they are in Australia
- Re: General
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 13-Mar-2011
Thompson Parkers had four shops
two in Southall the Broadway and Western Rd two in West Ealing one near
BHS the other one as I said earlier in Northfields Ave. I past it last
Wednesday on the way to Chiswick nobody has mentioned Coombes the bakers
corner of Townsend Rd.
- Re: General
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Mar-2011
Zeta, as Yvonne mentioned above,
there was a large Bakery right at the top of Northcote Avenue (shop
front on the Broadway). The walls extended right down the road, and when
I was a very little girl in the 1930's and we were walking home, my
mother would say in the evening "Listen to the crickets". There were
lots of them chirping, and when I put my hand on the wall it was hot -
obviously from the huge
ovens. Yvonne has already told us all that there was originally a huge
advert on the top of the outside wall (as above) and it was a C.T.Crouch
the baker. I remember smelling the bread, but I think Len actually
remembers buying bread there. ... more >>
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 13-Mar-2011
Hello Len, yes I live in Massey
Auckland came out in 1955, and I have also lived in Australia for 8
years 1998 to 2006, yes I know Tauranga, go to a place not far called Mt
Maunganui, lovely beaches, a great holiday spot.
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 13-Mar-2011
Yes Len I remember coombes the
bakers, I don't think Mum went there though, but I seem to remember
cakes and donuts, also I don't know if you would remember a cafe down
from the Hamborough Tavern, the shops stood back a bit large pavement,
there was a chemist and then along a bit this cafe, and then the Italian
greengrocers, well the chap that had that made the most fantastic
flakey pastry, Mum used to buy it by the pound, actually when I think about it now he wasn't very clean, always had a fag in his mouth ugh.......... ... more >>
- Re: General
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 14-Mar-2011
Len you mentioned you lived in Hayes - whereabouts? I lived in Berwick Avenue moved there in 1935 Mum sold up in 1972.
- Re: General
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 14-Mar-2011
Zeta I remember that cafe his
name was Jack he was very sruffy unshaven as you said had a fag inn his
mouth his wife was Mary the greengrocers were the Guissepe there were
Ann Netta and Hector the butchers was CF Freeman I live in South Hayes
off North Hyde Rd I knew Berwick and Ashford also Delamere Rd the
Trolley bus turned round there a woodyard called Davis opposite was Woof
rubber works my email leonard.goddard@yahoo.co.uk ... more >>
- Re: General
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Mar-2011
The subject of cafe's reminds me
of Bobs cafe-on the other side of road to the Red Lion. Bob was,
I,think, an ex marine commando. Very good grub1
- Re: General
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 14-Mar-2011
Thanks for that Len, yes the
trolley buses turned around at Delamere Rd, I was often thankful for
that when the bus came along and said Delamere Rd only... do you
remember what the other timber mill was across the road from Davis, do
you remember Chicks the corner shop at the to of Delamere, he was a
Jewish man they had the shop for many years
- Re: General
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Mar-2011
I am sure List's were really based in Greenford. Parker's did have a shop in Uxbridge Rd, West Ealing
- Re: General
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2011
timber mill across from
davis..uxbridge rd.....hayes bridge south side seems to be victoria
mills............john jack pearce garage western rd junction king
st....photo 1960 with old petrol pumps and 3 racing cars outside..alloy
wheels ferrari advert he had..another photo there now of ace cafe
motorbikes north circular rd..........syd dean is excellent site in
google..greenford northolt pony racing
track.and south harrow..1940s etc........on ours a largephoto of map
1939..of greenford says S.DAVIS corner shop..greenford high st ..keith
josie or dilys might know of it...what it sold which corner...large high
full windows.old front designed shop,1939....phylis sally scarbrow
1950s southall park photo board27 if related..board28 les kath nelhams
have put their photo of 1988.......lots of hanwell photos going on next
week.including hanwell town football club............ ... more >>
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The Drill Hall Hayes Bridge
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 11-Mar-2011
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Did anyone go to the Drill Hall Dancing, late 40's there was a cafe nearby if I remember probably a transport caf.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Mar-2011
Hi Zeta. Yes, my friend Mauvine
and I used to go to the Drill Hall. It was very lively in the 40's. I
was probably going there in 1946, and like you had to be in by a certain
time. I can still remember how we used to stand on the edge of the
dancing until you were asked for the last waltz - if you were lucky!
Living in the same road we used to stick together. One tune I always
remember was "Get your coat and get your hat - leave your worries on the doormat etc." I think it was a foxtrot. Happy days. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Mar-2011
Was the cafe Frank's cafe on the
other side of the road? My husband and I used to have steak and chips
in there sometimes when we were courting. Dilys remembers it as well!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Mar-2011
again today southall on bbc tv
news 1.20..and 6.35 tonight...read dot ron reception hambro arms hayes
bridge ron dot moved in dudley flat with dot mum edith who brought 6
kids up on her own......so if dot family harrison were living hambro
direction.wedding holy trinity.........so sarah harris reporter
again..inside clarence st dheer who worked BA same time as
carole..airport.....says drummers dancers
fri wedding street party.wedding experience.....camera inside a pub
said reception of dot 1953 said centre southall.....looked like juke box
etc of 3 horseshoes on our photos........so it is written that it was
not reception 3 horseshoes........book by joseph from family who live
uxbridge alice 100 in may joyce ann......rest in australia....tv spoke
of royal borough southall as 3 generastions kates family 1909 spencer st
8 ..57 clarence..flat dudley..said 2 blue plaques going up....ideal
home exhibition gt science items..and coronation st barlows in terior
and pub...etc..brian west clarence bbq and butlins camp with dot
family.....said gran knew of romance 2006 but died..said she would be
pleased as known as duchess.had high ways...photos our board ... more >>
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 11-Mar-2011
Zeta the band was Billy Stewart my brother played the drums Billy played trumpet Charlie Holmes played at the Legion.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Mar-2011
pauline zeta....google says the
theatre...ealing broadway....became cinema 1930s closed 1958...became
shops..wh smith bookshop as I used....1880 started as lyric theatre then
hippodrome palladium......photos on our borad29.....opposite north star
pub..abc around the corner from it....bank is opposite it...traffic
lights of buses coming out of station to mall ealing w5.........walpole
old flea pit cinema bond
st.closed 1972 I saw it boarded up...now the art deco facade off on
display........1928 was called forum opposite town hall..modern
cinema..uxbridge rd.......now due to reopen refurbished.........all the
james bond films were on there 207 607 busstop outside..they are keeping
the facade....... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Mar-2011
I'm getting confused over all
this now Yvonne. Does it mean that there was a cinema on the same side
as Lyons, but further along? I still can't remember going down a side
street.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Mar-2011
the hippodrome palladium would
have looked like old music hall..very tall high front .pointed roof
elaborates.......in amongst row of shops north side ......as you go west
to bentalls and sanders corners...changed to a cinema
1930s.......usually hr these weddings.in abbey....lovely
music........but the procession balcony viewing etc,,,,nice long time on
tv.....we saw on tv annes wedding at work.acton
huxley college high st library I worked...lived ealing broadway
6yrs......and couple of the other weddings..... then they let us day off
for it..... ... more >>
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 11-Mar-2011
Never went to the Drill Hall, but
did go to the Ballroom upstairs at the Dominion cinema. There was also
the Seagull on Lady Margaret Rd., and the Community Centre on Sunday
nights. They all closed after a while.
Ealing Town Hall had dancing Saturdays, I smile thinking of a sign they had there, "No Jiving or Eccentric Dancing" so Ealing.
If we Missed the last bus we could catch the train from Ealing
to Southall Station. We often met some Irish Girls on the train, there
used to be an Irish club close to Ealing Station. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Mar-2011
When I worked at EMI Hayes they
held regular dances at Ealing Town Hall, and we all got tickets for the
dance and were taken by coach. I had some fantastic times there and
actually first clapped eyes on my husband to be. I later discovered many
months later that he hated dancing!
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 12-Mar-2011
Before the Drill Hall was built
it was waste ground they had a fair on the site one of the main
attraction was Dare Devil Peggy he would climb up a ladder and douse
himself in petrol and dive into a tank of water Pauline and myself have
mentioned this before re the Royal wedding Kate's Mother worked at
Walkers the jewellers along the Broadway my Sister knew her I suppose my
Sister is one of the oldest residents of Southall she is 77yers old born in Mary Abbotts my son like Kate's mum was born in Perivale Hospital. ... more >>
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 12-Mar-2011
My cousin Pat worked at Walkers Jewelers around 1953/54. The manager, I can't remember his name lived on Wentworth Rd.
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 12-Mar-2011
Pauline, several of my friends
worked at EMI, they held dances at their social club on a Wednesday
evening I guess around 1958/59, I was also dating one of the EMI girls
at the time.
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 12-Mar-2011
Thats right Pauline it was Franks cafe and I used to think it looked good, I never went in there.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Mar-2011
photos derelict feathers
primary.and was sand pit.....also queens rd on board29...youtube
films..london firebrigade southall all outside our old odeon
cinema..dane rd spikes bridge...shock the playground very open bright
plastic colours.1960 was still hedges plain enclosed area..tennis
behind.canal tall thin trees backs of gdns...film of dane along
road...journey without maps..travelling eye is film
all along western rd...mary abbot hosp kensington then len..best wishes
dear sister...indeed yes longest southall and yourself only hop skip
away....1935 south ave gdns near you cousin pam ackers born..others 1930
to 37 born........walkers also ealing broadway next to town hall .tony
bought watch there.....carole 11/12 left dudley rd small flat..they did
get council place while but 1966 morgage ron a builder labourer..into
kingsbridge rd norw green behind wolf near canal.for 2yrs.......dot
worked jewellers hounslow high st....family biog says only
because..sisterin law joyce goldsmith the daughter ann...who was
jewellry trained....taught dot all she knew........carole worked
saturdays c and a fashion clothes store.we bought stuff in
there.......dot knew before she died 2007 of romance known by everybody
pretentions as the duchess..she was pleased.......dot sister tom eliz
harrison..from durham coalfields after war to west london..reception
hambrough pub from holy trinity...so lived along there........where
PLEASE SISTER len..........ron goldsmith clarence dudley rd.so st johns
not used..........bbc tv new s daily were in 3 horseshoes pub juke
box..centre southall ian mckie...but biog says hambrough was reception
aug 1953 dot after holy trint wed...aunt doll got married there 1953
nice white dress bouquet........brian west house clarence st had bbq
butlins holiday with dot........2 blue plaques they went in 57 clarence
rajkumar 3 kids.....8 spencer st .pregnant edith uxb reg office wedding
chandler /white family denham..and stephen.born hayes.........drums
dance as street party food..........carole at feathers primary photos on
board29........edith worked ticklers stephen maypole died young was 1st
wwar..6 kids alice tomlinson 100 uxb may telegram from wills
nan..........joyce ann..uxbridge..fell out dont expect invite..rest in
australia.. ... more >>
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by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 12-Mar-2011
the dances at ealing town hall
were great we used to go there one week and the nextweek we would goto
montque burton oppsite ealing braodway station I met my first husband at
a dance at ealing town hall. i think we used to miss the bus most sats
and end up walking from ths bus garage at hanwell quite awalk not one
you would do now .but we didnt have any proplems.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Mar-2011
I'm so pleased you found that old
Cinema in Ealing Broadway Yvonne. When I tapped in London: Ealing
Theatre I found two photos of the Ealing Theatre and Lyric Restaurant.
The second photo down gave a view from our offices up high to the
theatre across the road. Although it was an older photo, it all fell
into place. Thanks for that.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Mar-2011
thats it lyric
restaurant...because it opened as the lyric thaetre so very long
ago...so ornate victorian tall front.....1880s ...would have been
musichall and plenty of classical theatre there,,,,,,ealing broadway
queen of the suburbs,,,,,,,,queen victorias relatives living up
castlebar etc......1850 early the railway brought the gentry in
there,,,,,,,,,the groups in ealing so proud of the royal connections...must
be loads of photos in library local hist dept there with mr
oates,theatres cinemas etc....,,,,he showed me 2hrs the southall
broadway high st..stuff and maps........then jumped up to get southall
green photos etc....I said oh another time thankyou,,,,,my eyes and
brain could not take any more..it was all so lovely......mattock theatre
of 1950s is gorgeous around the back near walpole pk,,,,,6th form we
went to winters tale shakespeare there,,,,,,in the round was
fantastic..board31 has manor and st anselms..and much more.....what a
miracle of computers maggie knows well my best friend marilyn crank..1st
person since 1964...have asked lots of people....she must have toured
the world hope nothing happened to her...send 6 times to her sister in
america on reunited now mentioned maggie but no reply...lawrence also
said they go on their at a whim perhaps the millenium and then move
change email or loose computer from lack of money and never tell
reunited..so cannot successfully contact them....would have been be
wonderful if reunited had mauveen your great friend....yes so your
office was along there somewher..there is the ancient pub north star at
the traffic lights.....queen came 1986 to open the new modern shop
mall...we cheered her on...wh smiths I used often in the place of the
old lyric hippodrome palladium theatre..which was pulled down 1985..now
post office I think..IRA bomb blew up smiths bookshop there 1990
ish...caos on uxbridge rd there.......so thats where you popped out to
see the grans wedding...wills is a proud grandson..think she is thrilled
with him.. ... more >>
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Memories of Grand Union Canal.
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 9-Mar-2011
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My memory is making a raft, and getting to the other bank ,rear of
Barnes Farm, (Noryh Hyde Lane) and scrumping apples, huge pears,
victoria plums, and cherries.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Mar-2011
Hi Bob we used to make
rafts from oil drums we got from Edger Vaughans yard in
Cranleigh grdns. Kingsbridge Cresnt. then cross the canal
around Spikes bridge park.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2011
glad you remember barnes farm 3
acres now allotments..path from holly across clifford rhubarb field to
rising sun pub 1928,,cranford lane rest family lived...1850 to
1980......tyler lindsey timberlake.langley
meads.little.hamilton.....sonia age 80 said cranf lane cordoned off war
.not to fairey and airport....loads bombs she bombed out rebuilt after
war,,,my cousin there direct hit v bomb.on bike
way work 1944..buried heston church..survived somme 1916
ok......passingham pullinger had land.....mkt gardening queens head and
jolly gardeners pubs area......salvation army and barge repair dock
adelaide...2 aunts went and 1936 cousin who married was band..played
kings hall...dad was maypole 40yrs..pathe pool rec film...clifton rd sch
aunt ada wingrove age 50 1925 taught caretaker lodged with her at 25
adelaide....she was born nor green biscoe school...film western rd on
google..brent rd to king st .past old entrance old western rd
sch........buses...shops.... ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 9-Mar-2011
Yes, Denis thats how we made
them,drums and couple planks of wood,and tie them to secure them
together, but we did once have a mishap when came undone. lucky it was
not that deep.
did you dredge also, our favourite place was side of Old Oak Bridge.
Butchers hook on piece of rope, struggled one day to lift what i had
hooked, had to get help, got it up, a bucket of hardened cement
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 9-Mar-2011
Cant remember the name of the farm and orchards opposite Barnes Farm in North Hyde Lane.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2011
ok thanks bob..do you remember
demolition st mary catholic orphanage and front parade ground 1952
southall lane at junction pub bridge of western rd.......all those that
walked the common to western rd girls school.or brent rd factories like
kealey biscuits.....or across the rec to featherstone rd boys school
passed the swim pool...,,bulls bridge bit of old dry dock there on our
photos...... further
on....most people including our wentworth rd member played over mounds
south side of canal opposite old oak..orchard at back of old
orphanage..ringway has its own site forum on google..... ... more >>
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by maggie shaw (Member 10255238) on 9-Mar-2011
Just faint memories now, but when
I was about six we lived in the flats in Cranleigh Gardens and used to
play in the field that led to the Canal. I was always a bit afraid
because the banks and the footpath had caved in in some of places but my
brothers, I think, used to fish pike that mum would never cook because
they tasted so muddy. Do remember huge horses pulling barges along to
Top Locks, or is my memory mistaking me?
Cheers to all
Maggie ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2011
yes horses pulling by rope
barges...bridges have rope burn marks....canal field you went across
probably durdans pk.or called george 5th field..to tow path curved
bridge over canal to willowtree..old dock wharf marina...out to
yeading........clean canals now ducks coots swans terns cormorants dive
for fish,,,,,,but recent cocateels bright green take over..breeding like
mad squork loudly....best wishes......cranleigh
lost its pool....jubilee got new library..lady marg pub and seagullpubs
gone...lady marg sch........and dormers just started cost million extra
buildings...has swim pool and sports centre and youth club..... ... more >>
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 10-Mar-2011
During the war the bridge over
the canal at the end of western Rd had huge concrete blocks in the road,
and Southall lane was a blocked, you had to have a pass.
My Mother worked at Heston Airport during the war and biked there every day.
There was pill box where the 105 buses turned round, which was converted
into a cafe after the war where the bus drivers and conductors would
take there break between trips.
My bedroom on Wentworth Rd overlooked the canal and the Common. The canal in those days was pretty dirty and oily.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Mar-2011
thanks so very much john....your
memories of parade ground barracks old orphanage would be gt...the old
boys and dads used to go war memorial huge cenotaph of names there every
11 nov..demolished 1952 aeradio BA tok the chapel.....orchard
behind...were cows of boys farm.......turn of 105 now goes on to
heathrow...jacks cafe was next to junction pub.......canal clean
now....other parts even cleaner...all
ducks fish etc...photos wentworth houses orphanage canal pubs there on
our boards...what yr wentworth built...also convent way estate and
blocks flats there now............yes cranford lane rising sun before
queens head jolly gardeners was blocked off at war ..heston people could
not go down there..........dad worked in big hanger british eagle after
war...I went to kids xmas party in hanger with my cousins.....gregorys
farm...ron brewer had donkeys down southall lane....best wishes john
family so far away..from yvonne tony... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Mar-2011
Yes Bob we dredged but like you never found anything but rusty bikes ect.
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 10-Mar-2011
If my memory serves me correctly. Boys dredging the the canal in Hayes found Mrs Maitlands bike.
Mrs Maitlands was murdered in Cranford woods.
As teenagers we would hang out in the park and play football after work. After that murder people stopped going there.
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 10-Mar-2011
Yvonne, the houses on Wentworth Rd were built around 1936. My parents paid £500 for their house.
BEA had a training school for the cabin crew on the site of the old convent. My Mother worked there.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Mar-2011
Hi Maggie do you remember the small bridge over the inlet from the canal at the back of Cranleigh Gdns.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Mar-2011
thankyou john.......mrs maitland
we had on site here few mths ago and her brothers daughter came on site
to speak about it...so very sad....she would be interested to know bike
was found.....grave is at heston church.....yes bea training
there....aeradio 1960s on the corner,,,said office of the old
chapel..felt was haunted.......1936 so good thanks info....just along
there now convent way estate high
flats..........so they could be 60s /70s.built......bus goes in there
and round the estate...on some of the old heston airport land rest
golf........thanks so much john.....so nan had only been gone from my
pleasant dwellings oak pub 8 yrs when wentworth 1936...gdad builder
houses.so he may have worked on the houses....but at one stage it was
r.t. warren...builder he was forman of the men for warren ..they were
good friends...1925 warren built st mary hall..nice building..norwood
green...no go fragile hump bridge old oak.limited..no right turn
there.....so everybody goes along wentworth rd..main route
road..........1800s 1900s the old lane track was only the common.....old
track of western rd...and little old lane of northyde lane..so horse
carts went over hump bridge 1790 number 202 bridge ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Mar-2011
I remember mear the B.E.A crew training building was another building with a B.O.A.C C
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Mar-2011
Sould have said a Comet nose section for crew training.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Mar-2011
I've been reading up on Muriel
Maitland, and evidently she had been missed from work on 30th April
1957, and her body was found three days later. Her coat was found in
October of that year, and the bicycle was found in the Grand Union canal
300 yards from the murder scene in July the folllowing year. All very
sad. It's true what John said. My husband's parents lived near to
Cranford Woods and we often walked there, but after the murder we all kept away. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Mar-2011
Did thay ever catch anyone for the murder of Mrs Maitland.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Mar-2011
dont think they did......the
neice came on this site..few months back.........long page we did about
another murder or was it 2...and man got caught for one....back 50' or
so........so sorry neice and brother...sincere regards to you both....
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Mar-2011
I also used dredge the Cut for
anything useful & one day my mate Kenny & I hooked out a tandem
frame, we added the wheels & everything from stuff picked up from
Greenford Dump including a 3 Speed Sturmey Archer gear set, the only
things we had to buy were inner tubes which we got from a bike shop near
Mount Pleasant Ave (next door to Thumpin Tum) we rode that thing
everywhere. I still love tandems & have one today & we ride it regularly around Melbourne. ... more >>
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by maggie shaw (Member 10255238) on 14-Mar-2011
Hi Denis,
No, don't remember the little bridge over the canal, memories are very
vague. Do remember making little hidaways in the long grass in the field
leading to the canal and also picking those tall pink wild flowers that
grew everywhere. Our neighbours at the flats in Cranleigh Gardens were a
nice family called Nichols, sons Peter and Bobby. The father was a
photographer and took a ghastly picture of me dressed up for the May Festival wearing a white fluffy nylon dress with daisies in my hair. All the best. Maggie
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2011
hi maggie..you are a similar age
to myself..photos of waste land off lady marg are on our boards..1953
coronation party about 15 children and parents.with stage and
costumes...photos of cranleigh paddling pool etc there and jubilee
gardens library.....we did have the coronation party at our gate west
ave tressels..uncle fred dressed as a clown...at your canal there is the
high curved bridge...near
a mobile phone high mast...ha...herons cormorants.huge.nest ...then
parakeets took over........horses towed the narrow
boats.barges.....100yrs annual.easter horse parade carriages and brasses
and brewery shires........every yr regents pk battersea pk,,but moved
to east of brighton now...judges and for a 100yrs they have been given
awards........sorry dont know robinsons ..but 1960to 1966 carole kate
middletons....mum went to feathers primary.photos on our
board..demolishing it..bleak back yard had a sandpit..all the schools we
have photos of some pupils through yrs on our boards..........feathers
primary has gone to new modern buildings down near brent rd western rd
by canal junction pub...........but goodall..many in southall northhyde
and cranford lane...if they came from local areas.....film studios good
youtubes on google.........lady marg sch did you know my friend marilyn
and sister linda crank...ballet from age 3 she won a scholarship and
went professional..lived bungalows allemby rd many yrs........1966
southall still had lady marg pub seagull and taylor woodrow top of the
road......greenford grammar opened 1939 demolished 2008 new buildings
and entrance on lady marg rd now..they will have to call it southall
grammar...ha....cuckoonites reminisce site has hanwell greenford ealing
broadway on it and bunny pk churchfields hanwell lodge.....and like
sheila said they missed the last bus and walked home from dance etc
ealing broadway.......shops greenford on there etcetc..there ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Mar-2011
Denis-I remember the footpath bridge over the inlet on the canal to which you refer.
Pre WW2 the occasional barge docked there.
On the banks were the ruins of a prison, used for German POW's during WW1 I was told.
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by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 14-Mar-2011
Denis& Maggie I knew the
bridge as THE WHITE BRIDGE.At the end of the inlet there was a council
dump and in the centre of it was a lot of water. It stank as I remember.
The date would have been 1941/44. We caught newts & stickle backs
in the Inlet.
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by maggie shaw (Member 10255238) on 15-Mar-2011
Yvonne, thanks so much for all
those memories that I thought had been gone forever - sometimes one just
needs a little jog and it all comes rushing back. Also remember street
party for Coronation but in Gladstone Road where we lived with my
grandparents, the Goodalls, at that time. Mum made me a fairy costume
with yards of crepe paper and the wings kept getting in the way. I
recall being very disappointed that the Queen didn't come!
Yes I do remember your friend Linda Crank and especially her sister as
she walked like a ballet dancer and, I think, had her hair tied back in a
tight poney tail. I admired her as I always wanted to be a dancer ever
since Mum took me to classes at the Wolf public house in Norward Green
when I was 4. Am I correct in thinking she joined the Ballet Rombert?
Thanks again to you and the others who keep these memories alive. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
maggie you are the first one in
all these yrs since 1964.......to know remember my best friend marilyn
pity you are far france.....sept 1960 we startes dormers...same class
best friends 4 yrs ..A stream...marilyn came top class science...miss
morris very academic did not approve ballet scholarship....thought saw
her once near cats theatre.lloyd webber.called the new london theatre
was cinema design....north
corner of covent garden....classical ballet they were from the age of
3...like twins they danced mirror sequence of copelia.we went at
southall community centre.....will write to her sister linda on friends
reunited and let her know of both of us maggie...yes always pony
tail......she wore leathers in the 1964,,rockers came in..ha...linda is
america when she went on reunited,...may not be available..if changed
her email and not receive reunited......no luck with her several
times.....marilyn not there..she might have done the cruise ships or
anything..the royal ballet is wonderful at their new revamp at covent
gdn......computers are a miracle........fancy you knowing them..older
brother away in services...mum a sad widow..they had no father ..went to
their bungalow listened to beatles and liverpool bands..........I am on
reunite maggie acres..photos of all the girls there..marilyn in
front..lots love gt thanks ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
maggie you have spured me on
now,,,,yes 1964 after top of class A stream dormers marilyn won ballet
rambert tremendous achievement scholarship..hong kong..think I heard as
she travelled...ballet and dance...think saw her once......walking along
from covent garden where new royal ballet rooms are...and cats had
started at theatre nearby...we saw that ..it was so wonderful...marilyn
was thin whispy...real
cat for lloyd webber she could easily have been...soon try her sister
again in america....but travel the world marilyn...feel so worried that
she is still ok...hope we still have her incase any accident ever
happened..met her first day we were best friends 4 yrs sat together
every lesson.....meant to go to the bungalow to see her mum they lived
there all the yrs.....mum would have passed now....the bungalow has
changed hands.........have asked dozen lady margaret pupils of marilyn
you are the only one..what a miracle of computers.....yes pony
tail..brunette...5ft 4 inch..slim as could be.. walked.. pointed toes
feet like ballet dancer.always..she had gt fashion shoes and clothes
was a real 60s fashion girl....dont know where she got them but wore
stocking..with black beatles up the side of the pop group...lots of
black lace style stocking those days...and felt tip pen beatles painted
on school bags...£1000s beatles stuff sell for on antique
roadshow..bbc.....2/3 yrs old their mum had them at doreen venerbles
holy trinity hall..top left east corner of lady margaret rd....gt fun to
see marilyn photos on my reunited dormers .name acres..have a look
under 1966 leavers.......4yrs daily together such shame lost touch.we
played hockey team together......mrs foot librarian english teacher
thought a lot of us both..she had marilyn and I in the library
daily..better than cold playground ..ha.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
she was very intelligent marilyn
would easily have got A levels..and chance of university....but such god
given talent ballet and from the age of 2/3 trained all her life long
hrs.......we sat front row tried to keep up with her she had 1 point
ahead of me in science and came top of class fischel..I leaned more
towards ellis history..pity she was so excentric,,elderly but university
she knew her subject
amazingly....marilyn academic...from her 10yrs older brother...he had
taught her...and he taught her stylized art...cartoon...she was the only
one in the class that could draw..just as her brother had taught
her..but teacher never accepted it because it was not realistic.3D or
shaded or basic classical.form of conventional art...now all art is
praised modern stylised cartoon etc...I can still see maz her art now in
my mind ..it was so clever...but pointed black..freehand..especially
faces..............ginger thick hair.val harman who went to lady
margaret school..got A level art went to bbc tv white city with me
1966...but you knew linda so you were 1 yr younger than all of
us........lots love to you,,,thanks ... more >>
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 15-Mar-2011
Fred Gough writing about tandems
has reminded me of a lad I once knew when both in our mid-teens who got
fed up with me lagging behind when we went for bike rides so he decided a
tandem would be a good idea. Neither of us earned much money but agreed
we would go halves on buying an old tandem and then he would do it up
and we could go out together. Come the day when all was finished and we
started off from this
lad's driveway wobbling out of the gates, shot across the road and hit
the only car in sight, both ended up on the pavement in a heap. I
couldn't move for laughing, looked up to see his mother and sister at
the window wiping tears of laughter from their faces but he was furious
and embarrassed. We did have a few jaunts out later on but it wasn't the
success it should have been because I found everything so funny and he
was so serious. He sold the tandem later and very generously gave me
half of the proceeds. Happy days! ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2011
ron mike denis....1940s map of
canal along there..on our boards...shows the inlets so clearly..and zeta
remembers coal there.....yes coucil dump..........have not seen white
bridge along there ..the huge high curved bridge from durdans george 5th
grounds there across to willowtree marina now....pond in the hole of
the old brickfields...bits of concrete pillars from old ici ammo..or
german area as mike
says...google says bit further up by northolt the old pony racing track
was german camp..and after ther war kids played on dumped war vehicles
there rusty tanks armoured vehicles..prefabs were built near there all
at the top of lady marg rd further..around up there..........spikes
bridge west to the north side.going towards your inlets.....bumpy field
walked daily...hot summer sandles ...glass from coucil dump...cut me
.blood..got home neighbour drove me to hillingd hosp..tetanus and
stitches... ... more >>
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by maggie shaw (Member 10255238) on 16-Mar-2011
Dear Yvonne,
So glad I remembered your dear friend Marilyn. Funnily enough I don't
really remember any other classmates from my two years at Dormers. Hope
you manage to find what happened to her. Sounds quite a girl. Do recall
Mrs. Ellis who would call us Barbarians when we misbehaved and Mrs.
Fischl who I think was Austrian. A large lady called Miss Maynard taught
domestic science I believe.
On another subject, does anyone remember the salt seller. Grandmother
used to have a chunk cut off a large block on his cart, or am I
dreaming? ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Mar-2011
well wonder if paulines remembers
if grubhams,,,sold salt chunk bit off to sell.....tv shows cone
shapes...whether be salt or sugar......chunked off...wrapped at counter
like sainsbury southall broadway would do cut cheese ham..and wrap brown
paper in front of you,,,,,,,,wait again for reply from linda on
reunited site,,,,,but feel sure 50% of those members..only went on as a
novelty at millenium ....and
dont really bother with it..if they change email or loose computer and
dont tell reunite to update site correctly....yes ellis called our class
also barbarians ...you wouls have done greeks vikings normans...then on
to medieval........we did 3rd 4th yr and got as far as clive
india..quebec canada.boston tea party then that was it...ha.......time
ran out kids left...no victorians 2wwars done at all.....modern schools
it is today......elizabeth.1st. was her favourite..the way she said
elizabeth quite shakespearian.....miss morris did chaucer with
us...great medieval language she was clever at it.......fischel her
austrian dad docter,,had hard time war etc....great to hear
you.......keep it coming...love yvonne.....tattersal french...black
clothes tall skinny sock shoe lined feet in her french type
sandles.....long black hair.....yes domestic sci...wasg teatowels iron
hankies corners correct hut annexe by library art room block.......as
josie remembers...she was our time.......lewis did cookery with me class
by hall...opposite milk cupboard wher we queued for
inoculations.etc...mrs coutts limp...lp records assembly..planets suite
holst,,,every hymn we sang...know them all....her big shiny black grand
piano.....gilbert sullivan stage shows...parker at dormers upstairs did
shorthand typing....ellis upstairs by staffroom.....boys staffroom next
door.......elderly.miss evans. mad bad teacher never taught
anything...what am I thinking ..her constant phrase...stood whole hr
staring at class....silence hr ..4 yrs put up with her...my 32 yrs work
secondary school librarian work..my now knowledge would have sacked her
by ofsted.....we were 1st class fischel did human biology o
level...was interesting..cherry kemp wanted to be nurse ...so
useful....hope nothing happened to marilyn crank..she must have
travelled the world..linda married in america....dad had died
young....happy time france you..we go cherbourg..normandy and paris
.calais...mont san michael....san malo.......the dday beaches and
bayeaux..pegusus bridge.caen museum...enjoyed and french wine......love
yv ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Mar-2011
Hi Mike the footbridge was
there in 1960 when we left Southall dont remember ruins P.O.W.
camp but could have been overgrown but whent back 1970ish
bridge gone.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Mar-2011
Yvonne you mention prefabs
top Lady Marg. Rd a previous Thread mentiond Woodfords bakery
his brother fred lived in these prefabs.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Mar-2011
it says they filled in
inlets.....have not seen much of it all there..in later
yrs........prefabs yes much written of it supposed to be temporary...but
saw them not far from greenford grammar up there for many yrs.....cold
though not brick house protection...up that part area of northolt
there..google says german prison war camp also.....the work they did
helped after war some married english girls
stayed...especially many lost east germany to communism........the
northolt pony racing track 1928 to 1930s said used land for sheds
prisoner war barracks....near that whole area......I lived prefab some
yrs neat tidy,compact,but one litte tiny closed in fire only.coal
bucket......chilly place ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Mar-2011
Also does anyone remember a
canal inlet opp side from from the footbridge nearer spikes
bridge a line of sunken barges roting and full of reads.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Mar-2011
I didn't venture over that side
of the canal Denis, but remember seeing the old barges sticking up. In
my brother's autobiography he says "I was only allowed to go to the
backwater of the cut where the hulks and ribs of old barges stuck up
through the mud. It was quite shallow, generally abounding with reeds,
and naturally alive with newts, minnows and sticklebacks. I wish it was
still there as it was an
artist's paradise." He was about seven then! I also remember the ruins
of the old German POW camp opposite the barges. We used to play over
there, and there was an old iron door like a jail. I didn't realise at
the time that it had been a German POW camp in WW1 until Michael Braden
told us.
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2011
if you do make a bit of a time of
it southall hesyon way on the talk day 19 may.......the hayes by pass
goes off at glencoe into canal THERE....see boards of demolished
wiillowtree pub.........tesco but go ahead into little new house
estate....curve off right driving down lane into free car park
marina...they filmed channel 5 soap opera there......full of colourful
narrowboats....marina entrance curve
bridge..off to left nature footpath pond of old brickfields..couple
wood jagged wharf stick up...concrete pill box of perhaps old ici ammo
works..and huge high curve of footbridge.....marina often all day used
cage restaurant snacks drinks.........BUT to right south....back of free
car park....the fields paths go over all bankside..along the west side
of spikes bridge.......we had the bumpy field there 1950s 60s..which
went off to yeading.........over the huge curve bridge is still the east
side tow path down to spikes bridge...along back of spikes recreation
sports grounds...........so it all near number 19 spikes bridge.on north
side direction.......safely used by joggers cyclists..fishermen..some
narrowboats pulled up along............greenery wild flowers bull
rushes....huge crowds terns seagulls..above....ducks swans cormorants
herons,,,,,and high in the mobile phone mast on that tow path there to
the south bit of durdans pk,,,,,noisy squarkie bright green
parakeets.nest.......zeta pauline and her brother walked that area of
inlets......people stroll the tow path now..........quiet clean water... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Mar-2011
Pauline i think the inlet
with the barges is still there but its been filled in, used
to be alsorts wildlife there, Dragonflys alsorts of birds, in
summer we caught slowworns legles lizards now protected kept
them for a few days and let them go would live quit happy
for a day or two in your shirt pocket due to the warmth.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Mar-2011
Pauline could i ask where you lived then, also the name of your brothers book would like to read.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2011
just seen it on google...photos
film..panorama..map location.dane rd..spikes to durdans curve bridge and
1940 map of several inlets........type willowtree
marina..........history..filming..etc...several sites on
page.......rosie and jim tv was filmed there...google says several
places that inlets were filled in.....marina has tow path ..open wood
lattice.curve bridge along tow path narrow boats swans
ducks sail in there......festival there every yr...just north of spikes
bridge visiting boats bunting festival.food etc.....but walking off the
lane there can still go over open hills grass toward spikes bridge but
fences not sure can get through...east side tow path still fine
everybody walks that side..........hayes by pass parkway goes all down
side as yeading lane.....so from target northolt to cranford.and M4 dual
carriageway goes.........rooks magpies on football green hills..going
up to old taylor woodrow at canal along there..mowed
often..picnics...quiet...west side of canal....green belt open except
for new little hses built neat estate..... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2011
nice site in
google..........borough hillingdon walk...bulls bridge to
yeading........ealing and hillingdon always do walks..free booklets and
trail footpath markers...............3 mls 2half hrs...drink at
hambrough pub and willowtree marina...ha........1794 canal no locks for
speedy....dog rose elderberry..black sloe gin fruits..cow parsley
michaelmass daisy...brookside and across to industry pub...marina
site photos history...shows winching machanisms rail etc...steam
machines found rusting....says inlets were filled in zeta remembers coal
being dumped off...she took photo looking north from spikes bridge
1950..on our photos.....looking all along spikes rec ground tow
path......and west side also....coucil dump 1960 we called bumpy field
had trod mud path through it..cut my sandled foot..hillingd hosp
stitches and tetanus...trying to go ahead westwood brookside to
yeading..... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2011
the OS map of 1940 canal is on
board26..hippodrome palladium cinema board25 will put all on
31..........shows spikes bridge spikes park...east side goes cranleigh
gns kingsbridge ave close..entry into durdans pk........the inlet shows
there at back of cranleigh gdns JOSIE DILYS know that area....shows
canalinlet at durdans works............tow path along there still has
industrial estate buildings
all along there..herons on the roofs...had big nest top of mobile phone
mast for 3/4 yrs till last yr nest taken away...ha........so durdans
works area of jobs area still there..tow path continues to spikes bridge
..15 mins walk...bob sign writer willow marina colour
narrowboats.traditional.......was told aunt emma akers white st
....married into bargee family jack garland....narrowboat trips spikes
willowtree area £7/8......hayes towpath is on google emi distance to
bulls bridge..free leaflets maps from borough hillingdon walks....have
put photos locationmaps etc on board 31 together....
oldfacesouthall site on google are just saying getting their 1000 member
now..and nice photos.... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Mar-2011
Hi Denis, My brother didn't write
a book, but a huge autobiography which I still haven't fully read. It's
such a comfort for me, as he died just before I came on to this site.
He wrote about things in our own family which I didn't know, although he
was five years younger than me. He was an Art and craft teacher for
many years, starting at Mellow Lane School in Hillingdon. His name was
David Hackman. He later
went self-employed undertaking building work, decorating, landscaping,
antique restoration, and then serious wood-engraving. Ironically, he was
a member of the Society of Wood Engravers and they put a picture of his
engraving, "Fading Heritage" on their 71st Annual Exhibition
Invitation, but he was too ill to attend. This is still on Google, and
if you tap in "David Hackman Fading Heritage" and then "The Society of
Wood Engravers Gallery" his engraving is still there, and you can see a
really big picture of it if you click on it. He was a very gifted
brother. We all spent our childhood at Northcote Avenue, Southall, then
moved to North Hyde Lane. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2011
will look at the exhibition
thankyou pauline..good wishes...mellow lane I went to.on a library
visit..1980s it grew specialised in IT...night school and IT technicians
worked shifts everynight adult classes.....mrs lelitia foot my english
teacher librarian..was at mellow lane 1950s before she came to us..she
lived long lane with her 3 children although a cheshire woman,,,she
spoke well of mellow...as
hillingdon borough has always had high regard for mellow.....best
wishes about david..would be lovely for you all...a special copy of his
humour and pages and also libraries like us as borrowers would love
it...talented chap...new waggonhorses colour on board31..garden to
left..and covered cone roof shape over zetas water pump and trough at
pub front pavement duel carriage way ...and 2 inlet maps diagrams
there...hippodrome palladium lyric restaurant board25...nippy lyons on
news tv today..photos all lyons greenford and corner hse nippy on our
boards.....museum of london by st pauls has good exhibition of lyons ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2011
it is slendid pauline..full
screen.I have always loved the heritage of chimney stacks...value going
back to henry 8th of ornate prestige chimneys tudor ones etc..manor
house southall.has..and one photo 1900 down king streets shows old
ancient crooked chimney stacks..fascinating...so good with wood
engraving..texture.....my libraries always specialized in art craft...I
loved books of structures architecture...wonderful
draftsman lines he had.....my cousin ted ackland born 1913 of allendale
rd worked aec draftman..all career till died 1986 retired...had
limp.dad died 1st wwar arras 4 yrs fought wounded.was 30 yr old publican
1913of old north star northhyde before enlisted..his mum was gdads
sister barmaid lived cottage next door.......I went to florence last yr
stayed with my lifetime friend .....again structures she showed me all
the italian..tuscany and medici palaces.structures..beauty shear
beauty....she loves art as much as I have done all my life ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2011
dear pauline...may be under
ashmoleon museum archive..looks like his DCH in right corner...marine
graveyard....it is very fine indeed..marvellous....wood engraved such
texture,,detail..like fading history of cluster..coal fires
chimneys...clever interesting subjects..the brickwork interests me ..my 4
generations brickies builders.....my uncle came back to west ave from
egypt palestine war got malaria..mths
convelesce...wood project..sliced thin veneers marquetry...beautiful
boxes he learnt to do...1950s.......tony went to new ashmoleon oxford
last yr with college staff...they had gt day but new open glass building
is wonderful and such rare special displays.....been shown on tv the
money spent to redo the ancient museum.... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Mar-2011
Glad you liked it Yvonne. Yes,
you're right about his Collections. Ashmoleum Museum, Oxford, and also
Hunt Institute for botanical Documentation, Pittsburgh, USA, plus annual
touring exhibitions of Society of Wood Engravers. He also did some
beautiful lino-cuts and did two pictures each for me and my two sisters
not all that long before he died. One of Chinese Lanterns and the other
of the Mauve Iris which covered our front garden in Northcote Avenue during the war.He called it "Childhood Garden Remembered". ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Mar-2011
Thank you Pauline sorry for your loss, a very talented person.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2011
lovely the idea of iris your
northcote..ave...lino cuts for you both..wonderful to have of
him,,,,,,,,saw his name for botanical....but could not see his
work....was long list of botanical...maybe that google site does not
show it...but his name clearly there for watercolour wonder if I
saw....love his sign...neat..DCH,,,,marine graveyard my
favourite...reminds me of dungeness...we enjoyed..rye holiday....and
couple huts there where people live quietly...artistically....they have
gardens of washed up wood fossilized bits etc..design
poetically...lovely..and hastings ashore the old boats.....his barge
their buried wood skeleton protruding thought provoking..his
titles..message there of old times gone.... as all the best
artists..texture is so good..chimney roof cluster.....flowers are my
favourite..love exhibitions.of beautiful art work....thanks for letting
us know.....the talent that comes out of northcote ave ..so proud ..good ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2011
yes the hunt institute botanical
document journal..usa..international...he is listed under
england.....love going to kew for their displays of botanical art..iris
are a favourite..lovely for you 2 to have his work and pass
down.......and of course you and dilys tell us of the old barges
descriptively sticking out of mud decay old canal...so history of old
industry changes...going into portsmouth is
a shock old navy rusting...left old bits...and famous nash of 1st2nd
wars artist oils..he went and saw and painted oxford cowley dump of
piles of wrecked planes.some with nazi tails sticking out..thought
provoking waste of planes etc.and loss of lives....just thought we went
to river stour denham john constable country his old lock there.and old
dry dock..bit of rotting barge sticking out...time changing..customs of
the countryside going....did david never want turners windmill 1805 oils
southallmill.near 3 bridges southall..kept in country for us all to go
and see..nat gall wrote to me to say that christie sold it to private
buyer 2005..bet gone abroad..christies wont say...should be at borough
ealing for us or at london gallery for us to see... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2011
just got the sunlite lanterns 12
international exhibition usa.2002.says......lovely the light...shade
effect..linocut..such goog effect of light....my cousin was born in west
ave march 1936...he was the one ...all of us proud of him .did so
well.75 now yorkshire.not in best health....but was ok healthy life..it
was just the birth that could have gone wrongly,,nan had had 7 herself
but this grandson..was
extremely difficult..they could not pay 2/6 doc..so cheap district nurse
rolphe from clarence st and all welleventually..ok..but mum refused to
have any more.....so he did us proud....from west ave.......... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Mar-2011
Yvonne - your cousin and my
brother David born the same year 1936! A very memorable year - George V
died, Edward V111 abdicated and George V1 proclaimed King!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Mar-2011
thanks pauline had feeling was
same yr as your brother and remember you said health...helping your mum
you helped and your dear brother that time..not always easy
times...doctors brought in..rememeber you were all very good....we were
so lucky 50 s nhs etc....my aunt born 1914..married holy trinity age 20
never told anything...we laughed...first yr preg..from where we
laughed...she refused to have
more..ha...stress she had such bad time in west ave march...but he is
gt today..went southall tech engineering..age 19..BP exams several
yrs..became BP youngest chief .on supertankers the world...and your
brother fine skills.our john ran streets west ave with his cousin who
lived across the rd marg....but as you say what yr 3 kings...west ave
was in turmoil john the uncle age 19 died hillingd hosp
pneumonia..nights after factory they walked dark royal lane to see pints
fluid draining off..tube payed compensation to give funeral..toxic
fumes..ali solder etc no extractor fans etc...nan brought grandson baby
john up as her own till he was 19 and went to sea 6mths
stretches.....but he has not been back southall london for over 30 yrs
traffic,,,etc..grown out of knowledge expression he uses,,,,, ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 18-Mar-2011
Pauline-the year before(1935) was
the Silver Jubilee of George 5th. I was in the huts at North Road
Infant school, and we had a class party!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2011
wonder if it is the gazette
coming to north rd for the 1937 photo huge class looks 50 in full
classroom with teacher........with our jean of australia sitting under
the photos of coronation eliz bertie.....the southall local paper and
printers was so near the school just at high st .......photo of the old
school tuck shop sweets on corner of the passage..and the years of black
railings........the photo
of 1900s old red lion with 21 cottages turning to shops......on our
boards ...at 31..martinware.etc.....................1930 .1935.1936
(2).1937(2).1940s50s..my west ave and near ..cousins born.......nan did
ok with nothing..her rural simple upbringing...no cholesterol those
days.rationing.main stew or such meal..they are all
ok..lucky.............none of us smoked we saw all the adults
smoke...just 2 younger ones do........photo of huge dormers art
suite..josie and northolt yeading brickies with wire of mr baker on our
photos looks same as jimmys..there would have been a couple with the
men......kath nelhams of 1988 has put their photo there...etc etc ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Mar-2011
What a lovely surprise Yvonne to
see my brother David's work on Southallboard21. They are lovely. Thank
you so much - you are a star!
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Mar-2011
Sorry, I should have said Southallboard31. The old girl's losing it!
- Re: Memories of Grand Union Canal.
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2011
so glad you liked it..was worried
if ok.....I love the texture and light....and skill.....the southall
lads.leaned towards art...our john..engineer exams diagrams etc....in
leisure...reading or sketching long hrs oil tankers ships abroad...he
enjoyed so much art..portraits a favourite....bought items duty free
like binoculars cameras,,gt photos albatros following the ship...age 11
my history exercise book
for miss ellis.....normans saxon arches curve or pointed churches
etc..medieval.architecture..stone art work..he and I edged all my essay
with sketches of such..just a bit of enjoyment but she was
thrilled......meant to say ann widdowcombe politician and star roll
floor ballroom..ha....inside he devon home..3 swords on wall..of her
military father...one is the one japs gave on the table at sign
surrender/////surrender lens photos on the ship on our board5 as he was
in the pacific navy VE day......rare photos there ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Mar-2011
Hi mike i spent 2yrs. in the huts at north road.
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by dennis legge (Member 10258800) on 20-Mar-2011
I remember Catching Gudgeon in
the Canal near Spikes Bridge on a Saturday night, then using them for
Live Bait on Sunday when Fishing for Pike at Pits near Staines, with 2
mates Stan Bowie & Johnny Wright, who lived in Spikes Bridge Road.
This was in 1949/50 HAPPY DAYS
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Mar-2011
best wishes our other
dennis..penton lock weir husband and his dad went fishing your
years...nice island in the thames there....big lock is electrically
operated there...hanwell fight of locks they are paying for new oak
gates....spikes we all used...your 2 friends might be on free site
friends reunited.....just type names in....
- Re: Memories of Grand Union Canal.
by dennis legge (Member 10258800) on 20-Mar-2011
Thanks for that Yvonne, I have
had no luck with Stan Bowie, but Johnny Wrights Sister contacted me and
said he was in Australia somewhere with his own Boat Fishing all day
long. Some have all the Luck.
- Re: Memories of Grand Union Canal.
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2011
try stan bowie in name place on
friends reunited....if he has a computer.....uncle of northcote ave west
ave went cycle to runnymead..for his fishing....1947 he went from
prefabs golflinks est to fishing with charlie bridges of fleming
rd.......husband tony had some fish bate in tin at his bedroom .lived by
hounslow heath ..loads open fields river....noise up came scampering
mice..up in his bedroom somehow...oh dear.... ... more >>
- Re: Memories of Grand Union Canal.
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 22-Mar-2011
Denis: I also spent two years in
the huts-teachers Miss Curtain., and a much older lady, Miss Adams. She
taught the boys ro raise their cap when they met a lady!
- Re: Memories of Grand Union Canal.
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Mar-2011
Micheal nothing like that happend when i was there 1954/56
- Re: Memories of Grand Union Canal.
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Mar-2011
PS Then went to Dormers 1956/58
- Re: Memories of Grand Union Canal.
by Tony Curnock (Member 10266647) on 23-Oct-2011
My Name is Tony Curnock. Thomas
(tom) Curnock,Wharfinger) was my Great Great Grandfather. I am looking
for any information on the Curnocks during there time in Southall
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Nostalga
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 9-Mar-2011
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Talking about food, we had a greengrocer lived opposite us in
Berwick Ave Mr Willis, he had a horse and cart and came round every week
with fresh veges, and then there was the winkle man on Sundays Mum
would go out with a pot and get winkles, jellied eel and mussels, lovely
- Re: Nostalga
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2011
nan enjoyed jellied eels till she
was very elderly.invalid..mind bones...sunday tea table..men brought
all home from lunchtime pub..cockles with bread butter..we dug them up
on holiday 1960 falmouth landlady cooked
them.........shrimps.whelks.needle get blackhead off
winkles........still down coast seaside little dish........and at fresh
fish section supermarket...wills goes newz australia next week disasters..both go canada before july after wedding........happy pancakes......they toshed them yesterday n.ireland ... more >>
- Re: Nostalga
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Mar-2011
I remember Arthur Nurse used to
sell cockles, winkles and jellied eels outside the Northcote pub at the
weekends. My dad used to bring home some cockles and winkles - not that
we got many of the winkles! Although I liked the cockles, you had to
wash them such a lot to remove all the grit. I think Len mentioned once
that he lived in Alexandra Avenue. My dad also brought a crab home once,
but I didn't fancy any of that. ... more >>
- Re: Nostalga
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 9-Mar-2011
Yvonne do you remember me telling
you I bought a Martinware charger for £300 I took it to Chiswick
auction to-day for a valuation it is going under the hammer for between
£800 to £1500 with a reserve of £800 the auction is April 5th
- Re: Nostalga
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2011
yes remember len good luck...very best wishes to you
- Re: Nostalga
by John W (Member 10082501) on 10-Mar-2011
Tompsons greengrocer on Western
Rd, I worked there as boy delivering veggies on one of those old bikes
with a small front wheel and a big basket.
I can remember going out in all weathers even snow for 17s a week. good money in those days, more than a paper route.
- Re: Nostalga
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Mar-2011
there is film of going western rd
on google from brent rd to king st...old western rd girls school..new
feathers primary..........film called travelling eye video,,,buses
couple rows shops...also street view google and aerial google...several
of us have enjoyed
- Re: Nostalga
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Mar-2011
PAULINE DILYS all.....southall
lived off lady marg rd went to that school and greenf grammar
.1960s70s.tim lott on this morning show tv 11.30 today..spoke of his
southall bk and mum illness....he looks same as our photos of
him...books covers etc on our boards....scent dried roses.etc
- Re: Nostalga
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Mar-2011
Tim Lott lived Ascot Gdns.
- Re: Nostalga
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Mar-2011
Denis- mention of Ascot Gardens
reminds me I had a boy-surname Milward-in my class at Southall
Tech(1942-1945). He house had been damaged by the landmine which fell
nearby in 1940.
- Re: Nostalga
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Mar-2011
bbc tv news 1.30 today KATE
southall.....filming the streets...brian west neighbour went holiday
camp with kates gran dot and ron....he had bbq southall with
them..photos.....lady who lives in clarence st now with 3 children
rajakumars......film of dudley rd flat carloe lived to 12 yrs old
feathers school...then to norwood rd.......filmshot of queens rd
SIGN.nearby......but they forgot kingsbridge rd norwood green where 25 yrs gran dot lived carole till married.....kings and queens..clarence st to clarence hse.... ... more >>
- Re: Nostalga
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Mar-2011
Michael this is the landmine
we spoke of before Lady Margaret/ Labunum Grove. remember
playing in the houses that were built to replace the ones
demolished by the landmine must have been 1949/50 i was 6/7
yrs.
- Re: Nostalga
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 10-Mar-2011
John, Did you know colin Jones
who worked for a butchers in western Rd, who also rode a bike with small
front wheel and basket on front, and he lived in brent Rd.
- Re: Nostalga
by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 18-Mar-2011
KEITH I BOUGHT IT AT A AUCTION IN
PLYMOUTH I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT PUT A BID NO ONE KNEW WHAT IT WAS
THE VALUATION CHAP SAID IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS NEVER SEEN A CHARGER
LIKE IT THERE IS A RESERVE OF EIGHT HUNDRED POUNDS
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pubs
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2011
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just noticed bob gave us sutty landlord old oak pub canal
northhyde..1937 industry pub yeading mr barty.waggon horses 1937 hayes
alf buck.white lion white st gaswks 1937 parsons.wolf canal 1937 w
lewis..old oak canal 1914 tom potter 1926 jethro dines..1937 victory
king st george savill..hambrough henry drake.1937...redlion..old photo
today on board..1926 reid.1937 carr.......3 tuns 1937 george sta ndley..george
dragon 1937 arthur newman.......49 high st tom will judge landlord
1926...white lion white st mr scott 1926...waggon horses uxbridge rd alf
buck 1926..greenford redlion g welch and white hart greenford welch
1937...old north star northhyde.my cousins father 1913 ed ackland the 4
yrs war died.. ... more >>
- Re: pubs
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 8-Mar-2011
Dont know where the old North
Star was situated. Only place I can think of was down North Hyde Lane on
rt/Hand side just before Holly Farm Rd, which was demolished to make
way for the Ringway estate. The North Star opposite Thorncliffe school
was my fathers watering hole. I spent many an hour looking thru the
window at him drinking, me with glass of lemonade and packet of Smiths
crisps. (who i later worked for here in Swansea)I believe that has now gone hasnt it. ... more >>
- Re: pubs
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2011
new north star still there large
lays back front car park on corner..opposite thorncliffe school
.thorncliffe rd to norwood greem...opposite pub little row couple
shops....good on street view.....yes old north star photo of it and row
of od bricklayers cottages attached to it...right as you say on right
corner there as sharp turn northhyde lane...golfcourse..off there which
was gravel pits.heston airport...ringway
still there fo BA workers,built.....gdad acres was born in no 5 row and
sister worked barmaid pub and husband landlord of old north star.1913
ackland..number 10 cottage was sweet shop owned by gdads brother cousin
worked in it 1927...before moved to allendale north of the broadway.now
97 canada......barry our member his family lived in row next to pub
also....yes demolished 1958 ish gdads brother george kicked out of
rented cottage since 1870 ,where they were all born..,died yr later all
buried heston church.... ... more >>
- Re: pubs
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 8-Mar-2011
Yes , I remember now.What
confused me, is you mentioned that it was near to the Old Oak Bridge.I
know ringway well.My best man lived there.
- Re: pubs
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 9-Mar-2011
Thanks Yvonne for the photo of the Wagon and Horses, lovely old pub
- Re: pubs
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2011
the ealing hanwell old photos pubs are on board28/30..and red lion old cottages high st southall there etc etc.
- Re: pubs
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2011
john pearce racing car garage on
board29 photo with decriptions..junction western rd and king st
1960s...yes bob......ahead of oak bridge old north star..gdad acres
akers born there family 1870 to 1960 there number 5 and 10 sweet shop
1914 cottage attached to pub...photo on boards here....do you remember
anything please..cottages at pavement rd edge.doors along....bit of back
garden yard he planted
apple tree..yes holly farm...sache windows...row one up one
down......long old pub windows..they payed the foreman brickmakers mens
money at the pub.......yes pub tucked into corner big bend sweeps round
of northyde lane....now wentworth and convent way go off...photos both
on our boards........golf course where gravel pits airport
were........names they use..says bridge hse at oak bridge number
202...census etc...curnock generations wharfingers owned managed dock
there goods delivered..1790 onwards....demolished dec 2009..huge massive
high trees.to canal edge.....says was stop lock there..spur goes off
around mounds...dock...sections gunpowder 1805..barracks military 1857
turned into catholic orphanage demolished 1952 with there huge high war
memorial 1952..chapel room used by aeradio..parade ground cows orchards
gone.......western rd bridge 201..they call northhyde house......toll
etc......today new office block there called northhyde hse...our member
phylis lives near there many many yrs now..church warden had us at her
fete excellent norwood green last yr...........barnes far 3 acres now
allotments...fenton .foreman.dealt with land market gardening
locally..lobjots hston church farm..1914 war effort my nan wingrove and
cousins timberlake wallbanks tyler west.. on photo working fields for
food...war... ... more >>
- Re: pubs
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Mar-2011
We used to buy wide wheels,
raceing tyres off J.A.Pearcs in the 1960 for Ford Anglias we
tuned up. There garage was the old Flexmans garage.
- Re: pubs
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2011
1960 old b/w photo on
board29..couple old petrol pumps outside with 3 little racing
cars...says his advert said ferrari superfast engines..wheels magna made
by pearce alloy.....photos there
- Re: pubs
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Mar-2011
It's a shame that picturesque
Waggon & Horses has gone, but however many times we hear that this
pub and that pub has been demolished or boarded up, we still have the
memory of it in our minds. Fortunately for us, we have all our
Southallboard Photoboards to refresh that memory.
- Re: pubs
by John W (Member 10082501) on 10-Mar-2011
The New North Star opposite Norwood Green Juniors.
I had an accident there on my first motorcycle. I was 16 years old with L
plates and knocked a man off of his bike. Fortunately no one was hurt.
- Re: pubs
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Mar-2011
that sharp bend new north star
lays back with car park in front....thorncliffe school opposite...my
family lived towards heston just there...goes over m4 motorway now then
to right meadow way..1960to1980 lived....behind the TA centre hall
there..opposite elm tree pub still open....library swim pool......row
shops along up to vicarage farm rd,,,was fenton hse heston hall now
doctors surgery
- Re: pubs
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 10-Mar-2011
Strange that John W , i had a
motor cycle accident about there to,came round bend from Heston opp
North Star, Parked car decided to pull out.
- Re: pubs
by John W (Member 10082501) on 10-Mar-2011
That was a confusing
intersection, because coming down North Hyde Lane the road bends to the
right, just where it merges with Thornecliffe Rd. It was unclear who had
the right of way. Perhaps it is signed now.
- Re: pubs
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Mar-2011
we turn right there ok now...goes
smoothly to heston..elm tree pub junction new heston rd..over motorway
now m4..........if not turn right...then thornicliffe goes straight on
to norwood green.......norwood green fete every july is marvellous that
goes back so many years.....
- Re: pubs
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 10-Mar-2011
John forgot to say my accident happened 3am in the morning.
- Re: pubs
by John W (Member 10082501) on 11-Mar-2011
You were certainly unlucky to have someone run into you at 3:00am Bob. probably the only two people on the road at that time
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North Road residents
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by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 8-Mar-2011
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You`re right Mike ! The Aubery`s lived at No 107 at the junction of
North Avenue and North Road. Mother and Father were Albert and
Rose,.five houses down from the Rabsons at No 117. Between them was
Woodlands Court, which replaced a rather large house which was
demolished. Do you remember it ?
- Re: North Road residents
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-Mar-2011
Roy-thanks for that. Seem to remember Rose being pregnant in her 40's. There was also Joyce.
When we lived in Townsend Road(up to 1933) we lived nect door to another
group of Aubreys-they were Salvation Army. The Rabson's I remember well
from the son-"Monkey Rabson." He used to run up behind some
unsuspecting girl, lift her skirt, with a cry of "oooh pink/blue etc
knickers." Hope he grew out of the habit!
Also remember the old building on what was to become Woodland Court. ... more >>
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Marks family
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by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 7-Mar-2011
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With reference to the e-mails regarding the Marks family, are they any
relation to the Marks that lived at No 101 North Road, next to
Etherington`s the hardware shop ?
- Re: Marks family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Mar-2011
for those who like race
cars..........john a pearce 10 western rd 1960 and other.....old petrol
pumps out front southall garage ltd with 3 race cars there..made alloy
magna wheels..advert ferrari superfast engine,,junction king st with st
john on corner.....photos also on boards mk engineer queens rd southall
by railway.millimg turning...madera......all boards ok now was only
sunday evening..not....2
of north rd green shops...one of dormers pool...jubilee pk and new
health library jubilee..lord allemby pub changed...old sweet shop school
passage north rd.....swim rec.pathe film good..concrete tunnel.rock
horse for 8..tractor old steamroller..green yellow bands turns in water
turnstyles.. ... more >>
- Re: Marks family
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Mar-2011
Roy- if I remember that family
correctly there was lad a few years younger than us? Also seem to
remember part of the Aubrey family living along there somewhere.
- Re: Marks family
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 16-Mar-2011
I remember a Rob Marks who lived
in North Road. He was going out with Betty Rosoff from Shelley Crescent.
That would have been in the 1950's.
- Re: Marks family
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 16-Mar-2011
Phyl-By some extraordinary
coincidence, my life long friend Howard Pullen married Sheila(Gay)
Rossoff.Sheila I am sorry to say is no longer with us. Small world1
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Tudor Road School
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 6-Mar-2011
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Me again Pauline, do you remember a Miss Ball at Tudor Rd, she lived in
Delamere Road? Yvonne has put the photo of the PNEU but it is not
very clear sorry about that.
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Mar-2011
it is on zeta friendsreunite site..will try put it on board23 this morning
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Mar-2011
No, I remember the name Miss
Ball, but I just can't place her Zeta. Miss Jones was the one I always
remember - she was a very good teacher, but I was scared stiff of her.
She was always making herself up in the classroom. I can see her now
getting her compact out and powdering her face! She used to take us for
physical training and made us hop around like frogs in the freezing cold
playground in our vests and knickers while she had a big fur coat on! ... more >>
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Mar-2011
Should have said Mrs Jones. My
brother David liked her as he used to do lots of little jobs for her as
she lived in Beechcroft Avenue. She was a good source of his pocket
money.
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Mar-2011
Although we lived in North Road
when I was five, for some reason in the autumn of 1933 my mother tried
to get me into Tudir Road school. One day she took me to see Miss
Hannet, with a view to getting me into the school until Christmas. We
were ushered into Miss Hannet's office. Mum asked whether it would be
possible-to my surprise and horror, Miss H "Well of course Mrs
Braden-come along with me Michael"
I broke down into tears as we left mum. I was taken to a classroom
where the teacher was a nice welsh lady.I was sat down next to a little
girl with fair hair, who, bless her, comforted me.
... more >>
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 9-Mar-2011
Hi Pauline I remember Miss Jones,
we had netball, I played centre being tall, I was scared stiff of her
too because I am left handed and if we played rounders I would do
everything wrong.
- Re: Tudor Road School
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Mar-2011
Although we were both scared of
Miss Jones Zeta, she did have her good points. I can remember she made a
lovely Macaroni Cheese for a girl in our class who came from a very
poor family in Norman Avenue, and two of us had to take it home for her.
I've always thought how kind it was!
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Bankside Road
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 6-Mar-2011
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Hi Pauline I see you mentioned that you lived in Bankside for a while,
do you remember the name MARKS, there was a chap called HAPPY MARKS, his
mother lived there and Happy moved to Delamere Rd and I think when his
father died the mother moved in with Happy, he later moved to New
Zealand.
- Re: Bankside Road
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Mar-2011
No, I don't remember a Happy
Marks Zeta. I was only five when we left Bankside. I can vaguely
remember when my brother David was born and other bits and pieces.
Remember listening to the barges chugging along at night carrying their
cargo and seeing the magnificent shire horses pulling the barges along
in the daytime. Seeing lots of poor tramps and my mother giving them an
old pair of socks and some
bread and cheese! Making a garland of May from the trees on the side of
the canal and walking up to see the old ladies at their gates of their
cottages.Snatches of lovely memories, and the neighbours telling my
mother that I was walking outside the upstairs window on the ledge, and
my brother Bob falling in the canal. George V had his 25th Jubilee while
we were there and everyone celebrated in the Hambrough. I remember the
huge cake - but I didn't get any of it as I had sneaked up there to have
a look! ... more >>
- Re: Bankside Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Mar-2011
zeta..everybody...on friends
reunite there is places..streets..long lists members at streets..numbers
they lived at..if marks is there......zeta hay.stanley photo on
23........walking along that ledge ..photos on our boards those windows
are small.....the revamp whole area google says preservation on
bankside..one of the oldest row of cottages.they speech of the parlour
there....brickfields were opposite
and south the historic gasworks..,,casual labour at the canal...men
trying to get a job..barges dwellings.1920 and still hard after first
wwar...the general strike..more out work hard times...so men struggling
along canal.no fixed abode...1930s ... more >>
- Re: Bankside Road
by Suzanne (Member 10018362) on 6-Apr-2011
It's interesting to see that you
lived in Bankside - I live there now. My family has lived here for 30
years - would we have known you, Pauline?
- Re: Bankside Road
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jul-2011
suz.........pauline may not have
seen this far back....she was bankside as young child to about later
30s...then northcote ave to about late 40s...opposite 144.....down
end....thought by you suz...also stevens bunce families...by you....
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