gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Oct-2010
todays says tom phelps.lifetime milkman with lenny edwards...unigate..express..photos him with horse..drink more milk dark van..proud of his book and hopes it delivers..the british milkman.shire publish £7...war trouble deliveries..langley.west drayton...free tv 9 sunday7pmcasualties war.sacrifices made by ordinary people..meads phot 3 horseshoes high st dark .we have lightened it much better now... more >>   
  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2010
    photos of white hart at the end boarded...and now gone flat ground 2 photos ..google says long time they ask for car pk there...photos on are you old face southall site....dozen comments on king st and shops memories and rec...there also..free to see......board19 all enlarged mr meads southall photos.and others..70 of his mr ham paintings of streets southall in ealing library..josie tells us 3 hor... more >>

  • Re: gazette milkmen by josie (Member 10235627) on 10-Oct-2010
    Hello Yvonne passed The Lord Allemby this afternoon it is now a Plumbers Merchants and luxury Bathroom Showroom..also there was a family by the name of Phelps in Allendale Ave and they had family in Adelaide rd Southall.regards Josie.

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2010
    thanks josie..plumbers for lord allemby..well....phelps could be related..he has just brought out lifetime milkman book..the british milkman..unusual would be interesting.....hello to june jimmy love from yvonne tony

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Oct-2010
    Josie, was the Phelps connected to the bookies Harris and Phelp, office next to Petries the Chemist

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Oct-2010
    in google..evelyn m barnett,chronicles manor hse southall.with eng heritage..gd description..also aerial photo arrows go further...clear sun day..grounds pond.hosp..big hses down ost pk rd..and arrows all over..church ave nans grave..king st south rd..grade2 listed 8 nov 1949.4yrs to repair 2010.george twyman southall local hist soc many yrs..often norwood green preserve.lily pond yew trees mulber... more >>

  • Re: gazette milkmen by josie (Member 10235627) on 11-Oct-2010
    Hello Michael,The phelps we new were not related to Phelp the bookies..i worked in Harris & Phelp many years ago when they were in Featherstone rd.one of the owners lived just along from Norwood Green Police Station large detached house on the corner.regards josie.

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Oct-2010
    Thanks Josie. Teddy Harris and John phelp were in my class at North Road after the outbreak of WW2-they had been at Southall Preparatory School. In later years I have a meantal picture of Mr H proppimg up the bar in the White Hart with his whisky and soda.

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Oct-2010
    alexandra harris southall observer newspaper 16 mar 2009 is interesting.in google

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2010
    the book on our photos board and gillettes gt west rd..and cranford..and southall swim pool.and heathrow.aec..maypole.norwood green..glade toplock. photos.thanks janice news of weston pier reopens now 51 million 2 yrs repair.half of 100yrs piers gone.seems arson took hastings..went on many times..dambusters docu tonight bbc2 8pm martin shaw of professionals..photos them gaswks straight white lion ... more >>

  • Re: gazette milkmen by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 17-Oct-2010
    Hi Yvonne and all, We are getting reruns of the Professionals late at night here in Oz on programme 7Two(for fellow aussies) Last week Doyle and Bodie ran down White street and around the corner of the White Lion it was all so very clear and thought provoking of days gone by. It is still a good program after all these years. Jean

  • Re: gazette milkmen by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Oct-2010
    In Hastings a few weeks ago its not just pier thats gone there knocking the Stade about to all changeing.

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2010
    oh yes know that area hastings denis.long time since been..friend lived there went every yr..jean hi..lovely hear you.your north rd photo over 32 viewings thats just when enlarging..several photos over 110 viewings clicked zoom now...white lion straight on our board with actors there...so glad you enjoyed ozzie..my husbands favourite..gordon jackson also upstairs downstairs hudson..remake being do... more >>

  • Re: gazette milkmen by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Oct-2010
    Just read theres talk of trams running thro Southall again.

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2010
    last couple yrs councils ealing hillingdon rumours ..one time they said no but.always on the cards....gazettes are on line in google articles...october etc....

  • Re: gazette milkmen by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Oct-2010
    I can just remember the old tram lines on Hayes bridge.

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2010
    there was lot of opposition to it when ken livingstone suggested it while ago.....best to get n green booklet small pages is to have empty task bar at bottom...no need email etc......just www. etc...5 mins to get the cover photos of bk...then just 7/8 mins and up come the pages just arrow scroll.....lovely read and rare photos..........save on your harddrive...we have at documents......then click ... more >>

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Oct-2010
    co op 1940/50s board20..and local paper 1943....etc etc..uxbridge rd trolley trams all dates..photos boards 20 back to 16

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Oct-2010
    Lovely to see the old Harlington Church on Southallboard20. Haven't seen it for years. We used to walk by there through Harlington village when we lived close by for two years. Harlington used to be a picturesque old village, and we had to put our bans up in that church. I bet it's changed a lot now.

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Oct-2010
    think so that harlington high st.yes but we went to harmondsworth church 2 yrs ago...village every yr doing no 3rd runway and preserve our village..on photos that still looks same down in hollow church pub and village buildings......just doing my side timberlake family tree like most conservation huge order//southall green norwood green cranford lane heston...familys ..we all came from harmondswor... more >>

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Oct-2010
    local gazette looking for anybody who knew adam faith/of churchfield rd vale acton 40s50s..bbc 1 show doing film about his early life buddy holly lonnie donagon skiffle his favourites..terry nelhams real name..historian of gazette james gates retro..on google...james this week ..vc.medal article..submarines war came from ealing..imp war museum london doing new exhibition heros.ealing ian fraser//

  • Re: gazette milkmen by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 25-Oct-2010
    Funny that they replaced the trams with trolleybuses. Then they got rid of trolleybuses as being "inflexible", yet now want trams back!! Doesn't seem logical to me.

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2010
    to do with fuel and things,,,,but many people dont want trams back along there...may never happen

  • Re: gazette milkmen by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 16-Mar-2011
    Iremember the trams, some of them you had the staircase outside the bus, not too good in the winter.

 
Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 5-Oct-2010
I am still working on finishing the web pages for Richard Meads third book, but I have found time to upload a number of pictures of Southall and Norwood Green, they can be found at the following URL:

http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/southall830/photogallery/index.html

Some of the pictures will be repeated in the website for RM's book, but will be of a smaller size.
  
  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2010
    dear colin you are so good..very kind of you...splendid photos full screen..the first part 20thcentury......australians hospital..as we know war boys..new norwood southall cottage hosp..manor house grounds side......abbot rd.....cenotaph....southall........sincere thanks colin..all your work...greatly appreciated...you kept your promise......mr meads was good............very good photos and books.... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2010
    PAULINE..some tudor rd.....1937 1918 1900s.....south rd we can try work out which bit...western rd schools..1918....northcote ave and pub..high st..shopswells,,barton..chocolate....durbin...looks like bank on corner.....norwood green cricket...he says bat won several yrs wolf then was lamb that won......glutterbuck brewery..daniels landlord wolf......the rec green gardens.....canal photo 1905 and ... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Oct-2010
    What fantastic photographs. Just as I remember a lot of them - Northcote Avenue, Tudor Road, Featherstone Road, Southall High Street, The Red Lion, Open Swimming Baths at Southall, Abbotts Road. The Green Southall. Lovely to see.

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2010
    yes lovely huge size full screen so that top tudor 1910 school...right is that st george........maypole packing...have asked my cousin his family worked....1940 could be mr meads in photo...stretcher party 1940....perhaps that how he knew bombs etc...60/s1...3 it says.........australia was start of hospital...thanks colin.....mr meads lived north rd his family.......

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Oct-2010
    Yvonne, I think that the photograph of King Street is the end part, after you have passed the Manor House grounds and the Dominion, then the long line of shops, the corner is the turn before you get to Regina road. I think where the trees are is where the church was with the Havelock opposite it. I could be wrong, but others will know as well!

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Oct-2010
    Yes, looking down Tudor road with school at the bottom and St George's Church on the right hand side at the top. That's where we sang our Easter hymns, and further round was Price's long, high brick wall along the high street.

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    you are marvellous thanks pauline..georges only just in shot.....as go across photo gently mouse it shows date 1910...prices bakery mr meads speaks of...think so big..they thought of several storey to replace it...old northcote arms pub...photo......thanks red lion......and yes south rd as go manor hse king st....will have good look at them today.....maypole packing dept.many worked...sent to my c... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    yes pauline everybody....high st....is redlion at distance........avenue rd coming in...with barclay bank on east corner...probably jersey farm dairy on west corner there....mrs emily wells stationer.......frys choc shop......1914 says up by redlion....keevil arnold prospect cottage........1910 photo....in google type historicaldirectory..streets alphabetical...high st shows list shops.........nor... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    high st 1910..tram lines..lots horses do dos....little boys.fascinated by new fangle cameras..in middle rd..lovely clothes....school just off at boyds villiers...high st there along row shops southall gazette.and printers......abbott...

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 6-Oct-2010
    Great photos: I was married at St George's Church in 1960 followed by reception at the Red Lion, a very good 3-course meal, waitress service, my dad put £30 in the till for free drinks which lasted until 10pm then there was a whip-round among the guests to put more money in for the last hour, dancing to a 5-piece band and all over by 11pm, none of this 'into the early hours' allowed then!

    What... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Oct-2010
    That photograph of South Road 1913. Isn't that the cottage hospital on the right-hand side with Osterley Park road down by the side.

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    dear janice pauline....yes 1st w war australian nurse and casualties war came...and start hospital for them north side manor hse grounds...then opened by council dignitiaries 20s..southall norwood cottage hospital..len would know better than me....1970s my aunt had big operation there surgeon had to come and gp popped into see her..we visited evening..later yrs mental health took over..something c... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    pauline see your point hospital...len would know.....we dont see photos on google of that side of hospital...only think of side way hospital along osterley pk rd.with windows over manor pk grounds.......looks like posh big hse 1913..but perhaps hospital front onto south rd..gates there front windows.......so big shops on corner with road there going off down osterley pk rd...wall growth trees...we... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    typing in google.....sometimes gets one of our comments in months gone by....southallnorwood cottage hospital says tatty white picket fence out front but dont know which side front.......book like mr meads but 1930s to 1960s...good........type southall september 2007...........................pages by harry vince coulter very good loads there.......billiard halls greyhound track..bicyle race carli... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Oct-2010
    I remember seeing a tatty fence right outside the Southall Norwood hospital when I did a Google street tour a while ago. It looked awful. I've since looked up the British History on line Yvonne, and the hospital was opened in 1935 on its present site at the corner of the Green and Osterley Park Road, so I could be wrong about a hospital being there in 1913!

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by josie (Member 10235627) on 6-Oct-2010
    Very nice to see these photos,Mount pleasant Hospital was at the bottom of our garden in Allendale..the main house was pulled down in the 90's,The Salvation Army used to play every Christmas morning in the grounds of the Hospital,was very nice to wake up to.regards josie.

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    kindest regards to you june jimmy..yes salvation army came down rd west ave......northcote pub weekends they came in bar..loose change...and sell war cry magazine....the hats bonnets they wore were very hard reinforced top...east end etc..drunks pubs etc they brave went help ..throw themselves in thick of it..dodge any broken glass etc....have nice autumn..colours changing....other bk pages southa... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    difficult one pauline...just that 1914/18 war they started australians hospital there..australian nurse got medal ..work she did...then southall getting borough so proud they were what 1930 is....then dignitries opened new southallnorwood cottage hospital there same site..........the green border they said railway...south rd was north part to kings hall glassy junction postoffice...seems..but post... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    sergeant jackson austraia carried robinson who died.. western front...jackson 1st australian get vc....england he harefield hosp 1917 then oct 26 southall no 2 australia auxillary hospital southall green...then to queen marys hosp...1918 went back to aussie..australian nurse there read famous she got award worked there several yrs...later became southallnorwood cott hosp,,after southall got its bo... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    google has it as 2aah..australian military hospital southall green...specialised artificial limbs 1st wwar..australia hospital says st marylebone over door,,on meads shows side door open wide canopy top..windows small squares...long..usual roof to point....1934 armistice photo just cross before stone made 1934 southall........found few extra photos from colin did not realise....in australiatheir l... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    interesting thing about photo...............writing says australia military hospital..yes 2nd auxillary and the youngest australian jackson to get vc went from there to queen mary roehampton hospital both speciaise limbs.......above door photo 1913...says st marylebone schools...building1914 would be taken for war wounds...jonathan oates on google map 1894 godfrey shows down south rd to st marylbe... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    photo written australia military hosp 1914 limbs........door says st marylebone school........catholic brit hist on line has that1894 o/s map school..south rd...on west side after palace cinema.....after 1st w war to be sold..1931 demolished...st joseph drive there now to commemorate it........was daughters of cross........says 1899 was plough pub then kings head then king prussia.....then 1918 re... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    just found more under photos of colin and meads.......2 aerial...auxillary military vad hosp play tennis...the green.looking north....manor grounds big tall house big tree next to it.as it goes round osterley pk rd...............3rd maypole one

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    colin seems put 5 on one square photo...so by south rd 1907big hse those exact windows pauline...is before photo 1906 of work mens club..same windows gate...1950 southall green nice..1920 town hall looking high st.....1900s 3 horseshoes.josie let us know open now.......

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Oct-2010
    Yes, i've seen them all now I think Yvonne. It's the same building though with those little square windows and that dome shape up on the roof. They've all got that tall tree outside as well. Just found some more. Wonderful one of Butlers corner with Sainsbury's next door. You think you've seen them all and then up pops something else you haven't seen. Wonderful photos.

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    yes just this minute saw last one...arrow left gives 4/5 photos...then click arrow again and 4.....click arrow then 4..etc....ticklers first time seen where nan worked lots yrs....featherstone unveil bronze staue soldier which was stolen..stone one now all names boys of school..southall only wood cross then stone plain cenotaph.north rd school....norwood green 1910 police and 2 of woodine archway ... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    photos on our board and saturday morning pictures....they only took another...dotcom............so.........southallboard19@rocketmail.com.......................password middlesex19.................can see bit easier there unlarge zoom full screen..

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Oct-2010
    That photo on Southallboard19 of Northcote Avenue in 1910 certainly brought back some memories for me. The houses are exactly the same as I remember them when we lived there. On the right-hand side of the road, nearly at the top lived a good friend of my dad, and our family, a Dick Leach, who worked at the AEC until the sixties at least. He was a Shop Steward at AEC, and had three children, Ron, t... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2010
    that was nice....right side east...we used alley so often..yes narrow that bit....then at bottom...to right grass always bits of paths along back.so along back northcote ave....but to left the alley continued right angle shot off bit wider........then at bottom sharp right turn narrow alley to alexandra ave west ave south ave.........every sun lunch our males went through alley 1928...30s 40 s 50s... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2010
    there is nice little way index our site back the 10yrs...in google put pike southall ..and up comes our site 2002 march...cyril pike janice johnson reg hall mich young and me school...cached click...if not more under it highlights sentence......flo alice leach southall 1923 to 95....19sept2010 leach geneology in google...a site......so glad you got 19..so flustered.this awkward computer lark....th... more >>

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Oct-2010
    I typed in exactly what you said Yvonne, and got southallboard19 straight away. However, to get back to Southallboard18 it won't let me in unless I type Middlesex18 in Google. Then to get to Southallboard19 I have to type www.flickr.com in Google. It works for me, but I suppose everbody's computer is different. I always breathe a sigh of relief when starting another board up!

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2010
    yes 18 is worth seeing 1930 ..120 bus south rd norwood heston rd.....8 of catholic st anselm..original barn..now lovely stained glass.....www.flickr.com....in top left...enter..........ID..southallboard18@yahoo.co.uk...middlesex18 password.........200 photos each board...are gorgeous

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by josie (Member 10235627) on 15-Oct-2010
    Hello yvonne,there was a Susan Pike in my class at Dormers Wells..she had older brother they live in Spikes Bridge Area regards Josie.

  • Re: Pictures of Southall and Norwood Green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2010
    hello josie june jimmy at weekend...pike several about......good photos josie...dozen brickfields makers etc...on boards..get your mate to help..all best yvonnetonyxx

 
barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green hei by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
just had email from loc hist dept borough library j oates he says gazette...2 nov 1940 west middlesex gazette says........raf pilot saw heinkel plane he shot it down..BUT says it crashed over lonely field kent...........west mid gazette what funny thing to say..2 kids photo botwell hayes emailing daily.they retired now....their photo we have and barry has at hayes site...newspaper article terror s... more >>   
  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
    todays news.mr lightbody in charge lifeboats titanic lead one of the small ships dunkirk.we had them go thames teddington twickenham nearby....he told his family titanic sunk because misunderstanding..different steer systems steam ships.turned ship into iceberg instead of away.....my uncle born 1912 southall.nan ready to have her 2nd baby just after sinking,,1st baby died as many did old days..lew... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Sep-2010
    Thanx Yvonne saw funeral on news, brave lady Gestapo glad people whent. to trace crashed aircraft without pilot or crew names or aircraft S/No can be hard memorys that far back get mixed up. been through Spit prod No twice from 2 diffrent sources no luck but still dosent mean its not there.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
    yes denis..thanks mr meads 70s 1982 when published book.and 40s during war so he might have been abroad part of war.and got rumours info when he came back..his father or people they met knew......but excellent 3 bks of meads...free pages on web...just put www. in top left as colin says...thankyou best wishes..colin should have come to fete..mr collier now in contact..... might have come to fete he... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
    THATS solved heinkel crash terror sky everybody google think botwell hayes crash....bbc memory photo as well .........just got email from collier in photo....asked him ..library says west mid gazette says kent marsh crash heinkel....collier kindly says heinkel crashed tail came to botwell green 2 days spitfire fund raise money bought spit badges..his mum payed fund have kids photo on tail........4... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
    trent pk now university..german pilots held bugged...what they said about batt brit...on bbc 2 now.....

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Sep-2010
    You mentioned "West Middlesex Gazette" My Mum bought this every week in the 50s - it was then called "Middlesex County Times & West Middlesex Gazette". I understnd it no longer exists, but down here in Sussex now, I am wondering when it ceased publication

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
    hounslow chronicle now hounslow times....ealing gazette ..southall gazette weekly wednesdays...hayes gazette ..uxb and hillingdon..............bbc2 was good german pilots bugged at trent pk barnet middx north london .info from them transcripts kept at kew...their take on batt britain etc....109s fire 55 secs....... spits.15secs fire power......what they said...but all their mistakes wrong de... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Sep-2010
    of course full stops should be there houns chron weekly menday is historian column there..also hounslow times also richmond times etc times weekly.now printed.as on google..keith can read local paper there weekly free..........botwell green 1940 hayes had 4nov spitfire fund making money..seems only heinkel.111..tail there driven about towns have photo with it make money tail transported from wher... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Sep-2010
    Thank you. Do you know when "Middlesex County Times & West Middlesex Gazette" ceased to be a newspaper that you could buy over the counter? When I did a paper round several houses took it in the 50s, but by the mid 60s, readership had noticably dwindled..

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Sep-2010
    the tail heinkel botwell green display spit fund...prob came from cowley near oxford crashed aircraft dump..reuse ali alloys..was morris car factory...transport heinkel tail around towns drum up money for spits pay to have photo on tail.this one on our board is terror sky collier photo botwell hayes 4 nov1940 his mum payed.....totes meer means dead sea..war artist paul nash 2 paintings of dump cow... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Sep-2010
    keith google says..your paper 1923 to 1954...says southall part was 1954 to 1974,,,,,says originated as middlesex county times 1892..but joined with chiswick to rename as your paper.....pity we did not see you norwood green marquee sat comfortable chat all things and books papers maps photos we shared.arena events were good.perhaps next june..near kingston on thames

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Sep-2010
    more on our photo heinkel tail photo 2 kids nov 1940 botwell hayes,,,,spitfire fund all over country...towns raised £5000.bought spit frame had their name put on it..£8000 to £12000 spit cost...memorial of sons name put on one see board18.dinky model spit in box with ring through tail presume for necklace or key ring sold fund...botwell mum bought this photo of kids for fund and badge and brooc... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2010
    len.....working postoffice.......read meads to 1982southall.book we have here from colin...first chapter albert pooley....think family are on oldface southall..have seen name on chat.....he married 1940 and southall postman..france war..that terrible murder machinegunned by ss....he fained deadwounded..roehampton hospital had his leg off back to postoffice but pain all life....he went back to scen... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2010
    bert pooley phg southall sorting office..bbc tv film of massacre 1960stv..film made knocklein ss hung called fross in film pte pooleys revenge protect ss his widow.photos on board18.bbc war memories item angus cain was one of 97 murdered ay barn..his wife never knew how he died till saw bbctv in 1960...50 out of 97 brits27 may 1940 were recognised pit at barn haste nazis left them 1942 french buri... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 24-Sep-2010
    I WORKED WITH BERT EVERY YEAR HE ATTENDED THE WAR MEMORIAL OVER THE GREEN HE LIVED IN CHERRY AVE.MY SON WORKED AFTER SCHOOL AT A OFF LICENCE IN BEACONSFIELD RD.AND DELIVERED HIS GUINNESS HE HAS A WEBB PAGE.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2010
    thanks len have been reading 2/3 places on google about him.......phg..post office...photos travelling po on board18 and of bert.....his france irish nun his nurse came see him 1943 he got back home...47 operations 2 legs amputated by 1980 died 1982 age 70.....portland rd southall...went to rowhampton hosp.......97 norfolk reg murdered..hung the chief ss 1947 at war trail hamburg picture bert and ... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2010
    yes got his website len thanks..scatter ashes forbidden france .after struggle got french to allow berts ashes to go at cemetery..1978 fine fit tribute to the 97 men plus the others by the church erected after yrs visit naging by oconnell berts mate....farmhse bert oconnell found photo on board18..book by cyril jolley pte pooley revenge.1956....justice 1949 hung they were at war trial hamburg..pho... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2010
    janet pooley....on our short site page here........jackie pooley northolt 2001..francis and wife elizabeth pooley ran grand junction pub at canal western rd..1900 he died wife kids went to australia...tom pooley born 1845 hayes middx,1824 ben pooley northolt middx...see genforum on google

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Sep-2010
    the film 1963 pte vengiance of pte pooley revenge.....called the survivor in us..mrs pooley actress in film..from jolley book...70 mins b/w...jolly hdb bk 1981 £20 vengeance pte pooley..dunkirk assoc erected stone by church paradis 1995 annual dunkirk ceremonies in france...madame of farmhouse erected 1975 tablet plaque on barn..farm owner takes bullets out barn wall photos on 18/17/16...baynette... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Sep-2010
    gordon ramsey in southall last thurs..brilliant restaurant top forence rd by western ave...14 freeview tv 9pm now..biggest names in indian restaurant world..best restaurant...bit luck.photo on google stone le paradis cannot read...email they tell me man died..prob vet who took it not well so out focus..british war graves tonight sent me perfect one on board18..by church wall of pooley and his 97 ... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2010
    light hearted entertaining comic film tv free channel 12.. three times today repeated..bananas came back new yr day 1946.5yrs none..was 20 yr craze of bananas..rations programmes on 12 also..monday4th on 12 royals war...wed 29 sept .free14 more4 war unseen films 9pm in 2 parts....

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2010
    artists..artwork..southall///ernest ham 1889 southall all life 8 florence st.asthma but walked streets all weathers sketch pad.and easel..70 paintings southall library..many more in private collections....series slides used for lectures..wish we could see them.......worked abbotts high st..craftesman woodwork......some at royal palaces..died 1958 southall age 83

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2010
    pauline........looks like museum walhamstow........google ....road lea valley experience...................1905 hookers lane aec buses walthamstow 6 workers 1906 1907 507 employed..museum 10 south access rd e 17 8ax..house trust...have asked southall library if they have the 70 paintings were given to them by artist ernest......a.l.ham...1889 to 1958.southall 83yrs... painted sketched so many more... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Sep-2010
    In the Lea Valley Experience, I felt a little bit sad reading about the AEC at 2010 marking the centenary celebration of the B type bus, which was also known as "Old Bill" as many of them served on the front lines in France in WW1 as a troop carrier. Many did not return, hence the saying BORN IN WALTHAMSTOW DIED IN FRANCE. My dad was also in that war, but fortunately he was one of the lucky ones who came back.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Sep-2010
    had not heard that born w died france thats sad..so glad dad ok....yes those coaches may be first yr he went all that way by coach,,wait till hse,,,,2000 eventually need find hses.aec..1949 strikes aec....prefab 1st one 1946
    mr fuller had 1st one,,,so your walk to brent pk before built on snells farm and allotments..top northcote ave our bakers and bake hse rear...high storey..other corner 1911 c... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Sep-2010
    meads says 1957southall angling society put 6000 coarse fish in canal and bit later3000 fish..the manor house clock section building and barn were removed to widen the road...mr f w dean took the scrap clock refurbished it the original historic one.offered it to council they refused,,,,1958/9 june 27 labour troubles at gazette..12 local papers merged and published middx county press..meads says by... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Oct-2010
    Going back to the Lea Valley Experience and the Centenary celebrations of Britain's First British Aviation flight by Alliott Verdon Roe on Walthamstow Marshes in 1909. Although all you Plane Buffs will know all about this, I'd never heard of him before. I wanted to know more about him and found in Google an article in the Daily Mail "The Model Plane That Launched Britain's Aircraft Industry." Mr R... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2010
    that was interesting..recommend warm day out brooklands just by m25 junction.. their gate preserved huge letters says 1907 onwards aviation.....so much their nice restaurant teas etc...early fight..right through to concorde..avro etc all there..lovely day.and motor racing they have couple buses ....leaflet says they hope to open bus extension museum etc soon.....inexpensive entry....

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Oct-2010
    Just as a PS, Alliott Verdon Roe became Sir Edwin Alliott Vernon Roe OBE, FRAeS. Although he lived till he was 81, he lost two of his sons killed in action while serving with the Royal Air Force, Squadron Leader Eric Alliott Verdon- Roe aged 26 in 1941, and Squadron Leader Lighton Verdon-Roe DFC aged 22 in 1943.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Oct-2010
    A.V.ROE ofcource made the imortal Lancaster & Vulcan Bombers.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Oct-2010
    As I recall AVRoewas often tolled up into one word AVRO eg AVRO Anson etc

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2010
    thanks denis mike..pauline..sir roe...good heritage centre they have for sir roe and all at lea valley off walthamstow on google..interesting..dilys had that avro lancaster merlin engine reminder sound she had at day visit..kirkby........pauline last couple days..spikesbridge rd corner dane...house opposite the alley that went into park.....on old face southall....mr simon clements visited his aun... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Oct-2010
    You are right Michael AVROE trade name.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Oct-2010
    Winston Churchill an R.A.F band at No 4 in the pop charts.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Oct-2010
    thanks denis./they were saying about it few weeks ago...good mixed choice..raf band on itv today 5pm.......mr meads talks of southall artist a.l. ham.known as ernest born 1890 to 1953..walked streets southall easel..paint sketch..1900s one called king st hung in southall library...today mr oates says they are in ealing local hist library.can see if phonefirst so get them out of archive...should be... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Oct-2010
    good war royals was tv freeview12 was 10pm...3 lots bombing buck palace...etc...street party.....queen marg out in crowd right up ablemarle st...conga around ritz..queen asked police if could go back in 2am......at gate....flickr photos extrememly good by maxwellhamilton..in google seems..mualphachi..........st dunstans interiors cranford...gt west rd gillettes etc...aec had xmas trees lights as w... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2010
    saturday morning pictures odeon uxb rd southall..laughed tears rolled down at norman wisdom......london boy hard life..he went to midnight tea van starving ..gave kid tea and bun..said join army son..cadet band.get square meal..entertained the troups.then kept on slap stick all...albania football team cheered him only western films allowed..... they raved about..nice quiet isle man home..norman wr... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Oct-2010
    That brings back memores Sat morn pics Oden Uxbridge Rd Norman Wisdom, there used to be a shop that sold magic tricks now knocked down across the Rd nr town hall does any one remember.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2010
    sorry not know magic...but right..corner by steps up into odeon...sweet shop..my cousin...he dashed straight in sweets...if film broke..crowd noise..interval sang clementine...etc..words up huge on stage...get boys sing one side girls other see who best...etc...westerns..emotion pathos with norman..tears....pain laugh at slap stick etc...on tv with forsyth wallpaper gag.....he sang sweetly..clever... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Oct-2010
    The singing the dot going on top of the words as we all sang.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2010
    oh yes right ...forgot the dancing dot over top....6 old pence think go in.....some lads tried get in big side wall side doors free.....channel 12 royals war.today..ray holmes hurrican hendon..dived bombed the nazi..by victoria station..save kingqueen buck palace..ray got out kids found parachute string round his neck cut him free.....nazi..mobbed...he called for mercy comrades....they stripped hi... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 5-Oct-2010
    "Every Saturday Morning, where do go,
    Getting into mischief Oh deae NO!"
    I went every Saturday to the Odeon-the above was the first two lines of our song. If you thumb back through this site a few years, you will find the whole song courtesy of Roy Couch.
    The programme usually contained a cowboy film, a chapter of a serial,a disney cartoon, and the news.
    If the hero gave the heroine a chast... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Oct-2010
    The version we used to sing at the Odeon was:
    We come along on Saturday morning
    Greeting everybody with a smile
    We come along on Saturday morning
    Knowing it's well worth while
    Every Saturd... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2010
    she'll be coming round the mountains when she comes..coming round the mountain when she comes......singing iy yi yipee yippee i...singing.iy yi yippee yippee i......at one stage cinema..and theatre remember was stand up..end.... god save the queen/king played

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Oct-2010
    Just been looking at my brother's autobiography and being 5 years younger than me his version of the Odeon song had changed once again. The first two and the last two lines were the same, but the middle bit was:
    "Good members of the GB club we all intend to be
    Good citizens when we grow up and champions of the free etc. etc." His favourite cowboys were Hopalong Cassidy, Gene Autry, and Roy Rog... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2010
    good detail of your dear brother diary..my cousin had z of zorro...jacket round shoulder cloak...mask of lone ranger and cap gun ..holster around waist,,,hi oh silver..the horse...abc seem own minors song.......bob hope road films funny...mr grimsdale wisdom doing his own stunts...cartoons..tweetie pie tom gerry....popeye olive oil...lassie..sad.....mickie mouse...ha

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Chris (Member 10220786) on 5-Oct-2010
    DENNIS........was the shop you are referring to called THE INTEREST SHOP? They had a window full of small toys, tricks & games. Also in the same parade was ARCHIE'S (Etheringtons Dairy on the corner of the school passage). The George & Dragon Pub.......Chapmans Corn Merchants & McClouds Ladies Hairdressers; a Sweet Shop too. Those were the days! I bought my five stones & a set of Jacks from ... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2010
    my goodness chris used to play jacks..5 stones....got the hang of it quite good...ha......etherington...........george married francis little..........francis my gt aunts daughter.....they lived gordon rd..3 generations all 1900s.....one daughter iris...she married my aunts cousin......3 daughters went to local school....live berks now 1990s...........

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Oct-2010
    Chirs the shop was across from Bradburys jewelers, also sold stink bombs small glass tubes which we let of in the in pics

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Chris (Member 10220786) on 6-Oct-2010
    Yes Dennis, that's the shop I am thinking of......I may have the wrong name but THE INTEREST SHOP seems to be embeded in my mind. It was definitely a 'pocket money shop' as far as I recall. Chris x

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Oct-2010
    Chris,Yvonne, Denis-parade of shops White Hart-George and Dragon. One of them was a cafe' as I recall-used to pop in there for a cuppa. or occasionally something to eat

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    yes mike think mr meads says all about row along there white hart....tea coffee rooms seems several about..he says some were demolished to make room for firestation etc..abbess was office block built along there...photo on our boardabbot family..of abbott brothers who 1914 had famous beehive manufactureplace along there...3 horseshoes called beer hse on 1914 kellys..percival mallinson manager.2 hi... more >>

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by josie (Member 10235627) on 6-Oct-2010
    Three Horse Shoes open.regards Josie.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2010
    well done josie you are our pigeon post ..telegraph wire...grapevine...ta....len let you know its open.........camra and eng heritage were told...he went round see it that night.............trouble long time perhaps way of cleaning it up..get rid of trouble there by boarding it for while.....josie photos inside on board18/17....get your mate to help.you get photos...several brickworks ones on board16/115..lots love

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Oct-2010
    Good Three horse shoes open again.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Oct-2010
    Chirs name of shop you could be right i cant remember

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Oct-2010
    Lets not forget all the episodes of Flash Gordon we saw.

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Oct-2010
    There was a good Sat morning pictures at the Granada Greenford too. We were the "Greenford grenadiers"

  • Re: barry ..len...mike jean collier..of terror skies article northhyde rd lived 2 kids botwell green by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Oct-2010
    Hi Keith whent to the Granada a few times enjoyed.

 
Richard Meads third book by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 21-Sep-2010
I have just uploaded a first draft of the book, at the moment I have not included any pictures, also some of the pages are not displaying quite as they should, this will be corrected in the finished website.

The URL is:

http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/southall830/index.html

  
  • Re: Richard Meads third book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2010
    how can we thank you and was mr meads enough...everything there all yrs.so good...take couple days read...lovely..pubs shops costs..events..schoold. bombs..trumpers farm keith denis.tilly bottom bricks jimmy josie..sport songs praise tv..churches..phylis bowling green back of plough.dylis over 70 yrs deans your husbands family.....colin .ricky told us of the mammouth he is with the renovate manor ... more >>

  • Re: Richard Meads third book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2010
    only if you get chance colin.....one sentence end page...brickfields...because my family 1870 to 1920s there..........page title areas....bottom of page stock bricks.....last sentence or 2 gone cut off bricksheds hambrough estate......................thankyou only if poss..grateful...it is about middle page of book of pages...only other is uxbridge vestry bottom of page cut mr garrard.top page hea... more >>

  • Re: Richard Meads third book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
    so busy reading your book colin.did not notice you said 2 little cut sentences so thankyou..photos how exciting..sincere thanks......have replied to john wooton(think.....bottom page at hist southall.........have asked loc hist lib books gazette......war southall planes.........but probable that gazette nov 1940..autumn 1944 accounts not allowed to be mentioned paper..churchill said keep morale up... more >>

  • Re: Richard Meads third book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
    in newspaper google...another one of southall....squad leader james harrison obe from queen commendation valuable services to air.went southall county school 1934 watched planes northolt..born dec 1918 died 88 survived by wife and daughters..pilot did so many war flight....our friend lived southall many years son paul born approx 1945.. after war commercial pilot also yrs as raf nimrod and planes ... more >>

  • Re: Richard Meads third book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
    in google....type ..rare footage found loft after 70 yrs wwar2 homefront....colour unseen before...john lewis bombed .dh evans oxford st buses going along...I worked up there after the war.thurs night late night open shop night.....film shows injured being tended to..from high point high look down view.telegraph newspaper and many readers war accounts there etc.......chris... meads book here on li... more >>

  • Re: Richard Meads third book by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Sep-2010
    Yvonne - I've typed in Google...rare footage found loft after 70 yrs wwar2 homefront...and there's nothing!

  • Re: Richard Meads third book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2010
    best wishes pauline..yes is telegraph newspaper..so much on google ...films been found..after 70 yrs.......type telegraph rare film loft blitz etc....I just had it come up ok

  • Re: Richard Meads third book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2010
    my god...just went through the related articles..then press video or film........up comes germany these last weeks...help mike in german...........spiegel tv.......lady speaking has our rare colour film and music footage found in loft..by alf coucher was mayor marylebone and chief air raid warden...long tall bus up ended in crater..king queen bombed side buck palace..bombedlewis oxford st etc....... more >>

  • Re: Richard Meads third book by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Sep-2010
    Thanks Yvonne. I also found, by accident, a news item in the Mail of a plumber who has unearthed a WW11 German POW camp in his back garden in Much Hadham in Hertfordshire. "A treasure trove" of wartime memorabilia. Most interesting. He has retrieved 2,000 items so far, and a historian is helping to research the camp.

  • Re: Richard Meads third book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2010
    yes thankyou 2000 items found dog tag etc..live grenade..wants open nissen hut display.held 10000 prisoners...got dads army on...give a big gun trying to work out how to use it...wed more4 free tv channel wwar2 the unseen films......gazette and national papers articles on line..opposite your cowgate bridge hotel huge board outside xmas 94 days,we did a xmas dinner at one of the hotels once was goo... more >>

  • Re: Richard Meads third book by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 28-Dec-2010
    I am puzzled. I have tried to look at the various items mentioned, but no luck. Have they been deleted?

  • Re: Richard Meads third book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2010
    THE MEADS 3 booklets we read at colins www. reference he gives us.ok..then .photos southall it gives us are on board 19

 
airships hanworth middx hendon airshow..bedford. by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2010
tonight free channel 9..r101 british on our board18.crash on youtube1930 october.france.of barnes wallis vickers and NPL.....zeppelin..hindenberg..and on tv tonight spirit st louis .lindberg 1st solo transatlantic.as 1st young flight planes brooklands near feltham........amy johnson of hull lost at war thames estuary .ATA on last night.1st lady fly australia......ATA at last in spitfires..ferry pl... more >>   
  • Re: airships hanworth middx hendon airshow..bedford. by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2010
    those that missed it..south coast on computer i player also...billy age 90 pilot went to crash site he survived...metal detector found handle he pulled canopy to open parachute.he was able put it in his pkt so special for him unique war man find such a piece so close to life or death........some canopy not open if bullet goes through runner or parachute not open...end programme they said bbc wishe... more >>

 
uxbridge by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2010
hazel..ops plotter at bunker uxbridge airbase..at westminster abbey midday.70th of batt brit 300 march past hurr spit fly past..she was there 15th busy morning.glance up saw churchill..it has glass observation room for top brass to look down row telephones..we went in 7yrs ago museum now,,,,,her shift ended midday but had to stay to 1pm when he left.he said to them well done ladies momentous day s... more >>   
  • Re: uxbridge by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Sep-2010
    No Yvonne, it wasn't me that went with my brothers to Southall Park to the crater. That was from my brother David's autobiography - it was him and my other brother Bob who ran up there after my dad came in from nightwork at AEC. I didn't doubt David's account, as he had been a teacher most of his life.

  • Re: uxbridge by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2010
    oh thats lovely..gt having brothers you spent gd times with them...heydon in his memory said he and his 2 mates got chased by arp.....history has said they did take some of the bombs away advancing v2 rockets etc..min defence analyse technology......more brave people were the bomb desposable like those men today and mine sweep.landmines..defuse..suicide risk some jobs more than others like raf..hi... more >>

  • Re: uxbridge by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Sep-2010
    I've just re-read Mr G.P. Heydon's account of the Southall Park buzz-bomb, and he said "Again, we beat the authorities to the site and made off with the tail fin. There was no uproar this time." I think this must have been very early in the morning Yvonne.

  • Re: uxbridge by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2010
    early morning ....and your dad came home from night work perhaps..so that seems same..pope just spoke of blitz birmingham 1940 nov..our photos on board..he says batt brit..westminster abbey today..german bavaria has good diction as his home tongue gives more than italian birth popes..he and brother devote family both ordained after war.....tony set up at his college all twickenham screens coverage... more >>

  • Re: uxbridge by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2010
    no heydon on tudor rd site..shame some people dont know about it..he put his account on bbc war memories2008.strange that he put miller rd by tudor rd.70yrs later his memory thinking of something else not miller.........stevens there if same nice family who lived by our 2 houses northcote ave..jack 1950..colin1955..graham 1953..linda.1963....ken scarbrow1953 angela pascal2008 asks if he lived lady... more >>

  • Re: uxbridge by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Sep-2010
    Thanks for the information on G.Heydon Yvonne. I didn't know him very well, plus the fact that I had to leave Southall Grammar in 1945. By reading his account on BBC memories, it sounds very much like him. A free spirit! As for the Stevens, it could well be that one of my friend's brothers or sisters stayed on in the house at Northcote Avenue. I'll have to see, but thank you.

  • Re: uxbridge by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2010
    gt that you think is your heydon 2008 he wrote bbc..pity he did not join reunite site....mike collier and sister jean have just emailed me loads emails excited memories...they are pleased to have found us.......their dear photo on our board terror sky 2 little kids crashed planetail heinkel botwell field hayes..lived northhyde rd len...went school cranford...found them on school reunite....board17... more >>

  • Re: uxbridge by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Sep-2010
    Hi Ron Cox. It was nice to find a friendly name on the AEC list of AEC staff with your comments. You certainly brought back a memory for me about the jokes the older men used to play on the younger ones. I can remember my dad telling us about "the painting of the heels of shoes" when people were standing in a line. There must have been other ones which I have forgotten. My dad worked there until h... more >>

  • Re: uxbridge by John W (Member 10082501) on 24-Sep-2010
    Pauline, I left the AEC in 1967, although I didn't know your dad,I was a Toolroom apprentice.
    Several men used to travel every day from Walthamstow to Southall on a hired bus right up until the late sixties. The AEC was a good place to work with a great group of characters, although I didn't always apreciate it at the time.
    That type of atmosphere at work doesn't exist today, there wasn't the p... more >>

  • Re: uxbridge by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2010
    john definately more pressures stress..many places..each yr more wanting people to do 2/3 peoples jobs as they weed the workers down less less.but more more work...ha.....hubby has had plenty og it..but last 12 yrs change of job busy but fantastic social peole,,,,just had gt birthday..workmates all had gt time..and different events during yr gt workmates...but it is rare .social used to be part of... more >>

  • Re: uxbridge by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Sep-2010
    Hi John - that was very interesting about the travel facilities from Walthamstow to Southall AEC. My parents didn't actually move to Southall until 1933 after my brother Bob was born. I often wondered if he was still working at Walthamstow or if he travelled down to Southall daily until they moved there permanently. He worked there all his life and made some lifelong friends. When I think of all t... more >>

  • Re: uxbridge by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2010
    swarfega springs to mind..old tin greasy lid on garage shelf.thick pink gel..gets hands clean amazing.old first car..black..those days all weekend tinger under bonnet ..oil..radiator,,battery.champion sparks plus feltham..old rag..now all sealed can not do anything..expensive service mot...ha...ours worked..sheet metal work..engines..tools.women factories light engineering tools..gracie fields...d... more >>

 
dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2010
southall john gilbert green jimmy..born 1922 so of george gilbert and mrs green southall....died 23.9.1943 age 21..dambusters lancaster on google.buried germany.1941 raf oxford..photo in raf flight jacket on our boards..and dambuster booncing bomb of barnes wallace photo on board..etc etc..today channel 12 raf pilots bailed outover england one was shot in foot by home guard..so another shouted bri... more >>   
  • Re: dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2010
    well southall war account seems strange......bbc ww2 memories.put southall or persons name mr g p heydon..aug 2005....he says was child..says blockbuster bomb miller st next to his school tudor rd primary.........there is no miller st/rd.......says the only other bomb was southallpk.he made off with tail fin..his mum worked aec southall made tanks....all seems strange....he says german bomber shot... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 17-Sep-2010
    The only bomb to fall in Southall Park, to the best of my knowledge was a V1, which fell one night in the summer of 1944. I have good cause to remember this, because it brought the ceiling in on my bed.(I was downstairs in the Morrison Shelter). During 1940, a large HE dropped in the Argyle Avenue area-not far from the patk

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Sep-2010
    I was most intrigued by Mr G.P. Heyden's account of his WW2 experiences. I don't know anything about a German bomber crashing near the gasworks, but do know about the "buzz-bomb" crashing in Southall Park on 3rd July 1944.(Verified in Dennis Upton's book). Thought you would be interested in my brother David's autobiography (who died 2 years ago). He said when my dad came home from nightwork at the... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2010
    at least his bomb pk you can verify..he said he dashed as kid took the fin...says mum at aec war...difficult to see what he is saying..hurrican spit memorial flightjust done display northolt and dambusters music etc event..spit on own at begin fight..polish veteran age 80/90 there to cockpit...hanger tonight .lido 2.30 tomorrow fly..photos on 8

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 17-Sep-2010
    Still working on Richard Meads third book, but did come across this when looking for information about the spitfire at the gasworks:

    http://middx.net/hayes/articles/lowfly.htm

    Wonder if this is the German bomber that supposedly crashed near the gasworks?

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2010
    thanks colin..it is the terror skies site...we have whole page of comments on this site a few pages back here.......henkel bomber crashed botwell hayes by swim pool.displayed exhibited on botwell green all shot up,,,,,photo on our boards kids jean mike collier sitting on it..persued shooting by couple hurricanes these caused more damage than the nazi bomber..bomber said to have done reconaissance ... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Sep-2010
    Yvonne, I've just been messing around on Google and tapped in "Tanks made by AEC Southall during WW11" Up comes "AEC Armoured Cars" and then wwiivehicles.com. It shows several models made by AEC (which look like tanks) and they were sent to the 8th Army in N.Africa, Sicily and Italy. All news to me - my dad never mentioned anything during the war at AEC. Perhaps this is what this man was talking a... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2010
    well done pauline your research...so much not allowed to talk of at war..perhaps dad did not say...my cousin was aecdraughtsman there at war exempt from going abroad lived allendale expect he went on bike.born 1913...so bbc war memories he seems correct...whole long page he has typed.....and the 2 lovely children collier terrorskies photo board17 on heinkel crash botwell...they have put bbc accoun... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2010
    yes good photo..tank aec southall..gun carriers ww2 matador ,,deacon..p baker le21 designs....airfix models also there of these aec selling...saturday digital tv war work factories etc..one lady said Im wicked did not want war to end..husbands back they had to give up stay home..ladies said men upset when war 1st started not want women but soon ok..they did wonderful job..pilots ferry planes as w... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2010
    aec on google at bottom page can go page 2/3/4 etc.....clicked page 2 and photo of booklet.called ....contribution to victory by aec workers...assoc equipm co ltd...published 1947..looks nice

  • Re: dambusters/southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Sep-2010
    Thanks Colin read terror from the skys most interesting.

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2010
    pauline everybody aec southallso much 120 pages contribution war proud booklet they printed 1948..armour cars vehicles.n africa..raf airfields refuel vehicles.bombed out lewis oxfordst aec recover vehicle getting lancaster bomber out..matador pull gunsvehicles d day with chains for beaches mulberry harbour aec mentioned.bottom page says go on...click and read pges 120 page click and ends queen kin... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Sep-2010
    I read that article by G.P. Heydon and wasn't he lucky. He said he went to Liverpool to be evacuated, with other children, to his cousins in Canada. They all spent an uncomfortable night in a church hall, but learned that the ship that had gone before them had been torpedoed and sunk, so they all had to come back to London. The more I think about his name is that we had a boy called Geoffrey Heydo... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2010
    meant to say..but tony was yelling for tea and food..ha....they have whole rare booklet on line because aec southall apprentice was given it age 15 1949 april.kept it all his life..19yr old apprentice on line also think was frith photos memory site..if not was bbc ww2 memories site.bombed photos twisted metal aec southall in booklet..tool room all dept staff photos people and men driving out of ma... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2010
    heydon may be on reunite school site or if they have other sections like aec etc......benares the famous child ship to n america sunk....bbcww2 memories site man from regina rd way think...was due to go did not..and friends win boys died...his narrow escape.too dangerous ships atlantic uboats.german subs...north sea eng channel also convoys.man..north sea...lived up that way invented 1st w war..pe... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Sep-2010
    Thanks for that Yvonne. If you type in google
    "Contribution to victory AEC" you get straight into it.

  • Re: dambusters/southall by John W (Member 10082501) on 22-Sep-2010
    My Father started work at the AEC on getting out of the RAF, He had worked behind the Gem Cinema prior to going into the RAF. I don't know who he worked for but was a pipe fitter.
    He and been an engine mechanic in the RAF, and I guess he learned that trade during the war.
    I started as an AEC Apprentice on leaving school at 15 years old and later moved to the JIG & Tool Drawing office after two y... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
    thanks your memories john bottom page..1944 is same as richard meads memories and autumn 1944...planes coming down near gasworks...but not known recorded anywhere....wing you had....did the rest plane go on further where did rest plane come down,,raf one,,,,,,,,,,,,..aec photos on board18.........booklet contribution aec war given to apprentice boys.ted ackland draughtman till retired cousin.walke... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Sep-2010
    The AEC's "Contribution To Victory" booklet, although containing photos of the many tanks, etc., I found it very interesting to read about the crankshafts and the 35 operations that were needed to produce a finished AEC crankshaft. My dad didn't talk much about his work at the AEC other than he was a chargehand in the Engine Block and was a Crankshaft engineer. I remember having to fill in his occ... more >>

  • Re: dambusters/southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Sep-2010
    so pleased pauline...50s etc not much chat at home they were always work..females all hours doing at home shops jobs....when I filled in forms dad occupation did not know title...must be lots us like that....spit production site in google crashes...highlighted cached....click....................and up came southall half way down 30 june 1941...low aerobatics southall middx not say where....crash..... more >>

 
The Crackerjacks by virtual_jan (Member 10251996) on 16-Sep-2010
Hi, I know this is a long shot but I am seeking help. I have uploaded onto the Southall Flikr board a photo of a group of young men taken some time in the 1930s. I believe they were in a jazz/swing band called The Crackerjacks - my father Harold Flick is on the far right with the uke. Dad was born and raised in Southall , returning for a short while after WW2 before relocating to the Midlands. I w... more >>   
  • Re: The Crackerjacks by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2010
    dear jan have looked on our boards 17/16/15 and 1st board cant see your band...4 recent ones of air crew.......where exactly for us to type in google did you put the is it one photo..thanks..jazz was big thing in southall..whitehart pub ..osterley park grounds place etc..date any details you can give jog our members memory names etc.where exactly events..thanks.nice to hear you

  • Re: The Crackerjacks by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Sep-2010
    P.S made nice brake from going through Spit production Nos. to trace Southall Spit.

  • Re: The Crackerjacks by virtual_jan (Member 10251996) on 16-Sep-2010
    Hi Yvonne it should be on the Southall 8 board's photostream - sorry it does not show a page.
    I don't know how that board appears to you but if I sort recent it appears as the latest one on the page. It is autotagged CrackerjacksThere is a message on my screen saying that "Your free account will only display the most recent 200 things you've uploaded.
    Anything beyond 200 will remain hidden from... more >>

  • Re: The Crackerjacks by virtual_jan (Member 10251996) on 16-Sep-2010
    http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=southall&w=51404913%40N05&s=rec
    will this help?

  • Re: The Crackerjacks by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2010
    ok jan everything ok...presume you are lady..my cousin jan of polish exrtraction is a male....it has only taken off old map northolt ..I have it will put the map on another board later.....board8 pauline len mike dylis everybody 1st photo by dr ginsberg...5 young men crackerjacks jazz band .. uke and guitar....harry flick southall born bred 30s.....saw harold flick music guitar on google last nigh... more >>

  • Re: The Crackerjacks by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2010
    jan keep digging away at google incase you find anything............type best of bill medley and righteous bros in 60s,,,,cached and highlight shows harold a flick 2007 met bill on the right side of page small section small type..................victor harold flick from surrey guitarist....edward harold flick/electric blues mind body cached ..edward flick and it highlights 1955 electric blue jel... more >>

  • Re: The Crackerjacks by virtual_jan (Member 10251996) on 17-Sep-2010
    Thanks Yvonne sorry if I put photo in wrong place - I tried to follow the instructions but the different books did not come up.
    Never mind, I will keep searching. I have come across the guitarist Vic Flick before - sadly not my guy. My interest is less in Harold Flick and more in trying to name the people with him . These are of course questions I should have asked my father when he was still al... more >>

  • Re: The Crackerjacks by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2010
    JAN....your photo has had 3 viewing in couple days..enlarging...so gradually people looking..........the other site couple of our people belong to...is free but you have to log in register.....most people bit younger not know 30s but several older ones.....free to put your photo and comment details on there.....catch other people who only look at that sight........google.....are you old face southall...gd luck

  • Re: The Crackerjacks by virtual_jan (Member 10251996) on 19-Sep-2010
    Thanks for that info Yvonne - I will keep checking Google as I know new stuff is appearing all the time - it is amazing what is on the web now compared to even a couple of years ago.

    What are the names of the other sites you mention that I can register on?

  • Re: The Crackerjacks by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2010
    type in google............are you old face southall.................type ..friends reunited.......then click section called groups ...there you could set yp swing jazz bands clubs....members get together memories musuc groups they used to know..................bbc reference library music dept broadcasting hse pride themselves on all knowledge music.groups.....letter of phone 1930s west london so... more >>

  • Re: The Crackerjacks by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2010
    jan there have been 3 enlarge close up zoom ..people gradually looking couple wks..so eventually you might have luck..jean 25 zoom into school faces north rd so people interested...thanks

  • Re: The Crackerjacks by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2010
    JAN.....saw cuckoonites has interest jazz and bands,,,they know old times.......see if you can put photo with them they have photos....hanwell local history site cuckoonites....just the side of southall...local...cuckoo is their famous residential estate

 
catholic southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2010
st anselms.and st mary orphanage school northhyde by aeradio hse.british airways...best wishes pope visit 10am.and then to queen holyrood palace..went edinburgh once was good.tonys mum glasgow catholic.then feltham church and school.westminster cathedral london is good had turin shroud exhibition..tonight excellent play begin coronation st dec 1960 we watched at west ave...florizel st changed name... more >>   
  • Re: catholic southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2010
    denis probably mike etc...have look at in google......stephen greensted photostream......his dad pilot.30s etc langley bucks airstrip..excellent photos..

  • Re: catholic southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Sep-2010
    Just been on Greensted photostream most enjoyed, have read Sir Stanley Hookers book this is the man who made it possible brit spits back into Europe 1942 after advent f.w 190. He was also resposible for the salvation of Rolls Royce 1971.

  • Re: catholic southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2010
    sent message to stephen grateful for his archive there...his fatherinlaw think said was hooker...father bryan advancedspit he was chieftest pilot1944 .leader of spits squadron....bryan continued fly world after war...royals his photos archive..langley bucks..hamble..etc...his gdad also pilot.....told lawrence that we met at fete..many yrs plane historian.but he had already seen this archive

  • Re: catholic southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 16-Sep-2010
    I am in the process of scanning Rcihard Mead's third book using OCR in preparation to creating a website for it, the following is what I have scanned so far:

    "The beginning of the Catholic Church in Southall Green came when Mr Thomas of the Manor House, allowed a Catholic Priest from Hayes to hold mass in the Barn' on Sunday mornings. He later donated a plot of land next to the Manor on which w... more >>

  • Re: catholic southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2010
    good of you all your work wil read later when you have chance thankyou.so much....yes several of our people used st anselms..my crowd used old st johns 1837..then new st john 1907....they say cruelty at boys catholic school convent orphanage 1858 after was gunpowder barracks napolionic wars..jesuit fathers...then1900s nuns took over.1937 they took statue christ away to chigwell with them but memor... more >>

  • Re: catholic southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2010
    colin.....meant to say mr meads born about 1904..so he would have been about 40....probably abroad at war 1944 autumn.....unless he was still at southall reserved occupation essential civvys work..........otherwise he would hear spit canada pilot info when home from war end war,,and then as you say read exume in local paper.....mr meads father would be about late 60s 1944 if he told richard meads ... more >>

 
statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2010
today bronze statue sir keith park.air chief marshall.2.45 pm flypast hurricane spitfire.new 9ft tall waterloo place by mall..where many others are.new zealand man family nz ambassador.veterans be at ceremony,   
  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2010
    david cavell who lived near heston airport and len said on site 13nov09.heston airport spitfires hurricanes..as well as fly fortress...so if mr meads spit from northolt across southall gaswks......david said top recet reconnaisance base heston with recce trips ..davids brother got through barbed wire and pilot took him inside spit..stout wood posts regular intervals heston to stop enemy planes gli... more >>

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Sep-2010
    Does anyone have titles of Richard Meads books ect, please.

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2010
    denis it is at bottom page where you asked

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Sep-2010
    Thank you hoped to get booklets local library sorry Yvonne got threads mixed

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2010
    ok denis..thanks.......incase anybody knows names meads says...his chapter 2nd w war gasworks...says conspicuous bravery awards to bunny webb ,,jack benn,ted lawrence...says retort hse gas works bombs bombed..says wellington bomber 1944 crashed rear beaconsfield in field well that is by gas ..says crew ok bailed out.........sayslen bowdler cc smith got canadian out of crash spit rear white st autu... more >>

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Sep-2010
    Thank you Yvonne thats what i wanted autum 44 pos not Canadian pilot if Northolt or Heston both operated PRU spitfire mk 9 no Canadians Northolt or Heston.

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Sep-2010
    Polish at Northolt basicly 1939 to 1-4-1944, then RAF. moved in 16squ. Spit 9, 140 squ. Mosquitos, 69 squ. Wellingtons all photo recci RAF, poles moved to forward airfields south coast to support d.day, hence polish momorial Western Ave due to long stay, but no canadians,

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2010
    thanks denis for your research....mr meads quite unusual all his details wish we knew how he got them war gasworks.even said tree destroyed at crash gas gates....google ...duck house history ruislip.....says.....northolt airfield units manning raf station were...polish belgian canadian contingents..........if pilot born canada but over here ...killed and after war send home to his birth family of ... more >>

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2010
    yes just seen on the northolt official sites may 1944 ceased fighter base,,became recce..transport ..communications...so if he had left northolt..autumn 1944..may have been canadian just by birth originally.....but spitfire query..many people would have talked about it but not heard....... so query this bit of mr meads

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Sep-2010
    Thought from Canadian squ my mistake.

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2010
    no thats ok thanks your lovely info..mr meads bit vague..we dont know really...the hurrican as colin said crew bailed out field back gas works unhurt and may be hurrican came down out hampton ct way......librarian of gazette and his bks may know............last night council gave permission bentley priory out st albans way herts.to be homes to live in and also a museum..model spitfire in grounds..... more >>

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Sep-2010
    Bentley Priory closed some wasnt it dry rot.

  • Re: statue for defence london greater london se england 1940 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2010
    yes up at harrow but council last night gave go ahead for homes there and museum to be opened...google said it had been open by appointment for tours....at one time......like poor old southall manor dry rot etc etc...start to renew oct2010 with lottery money and eng heritage take 2yrs to repair renovate .at southallgreen

 
nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2010
9 septlast week mary nelhams now riches.is on site...are you old face southall..like dylis and len are also....she lived brent rd 1942 to 1963.asks for those who knew family.you spoke of leslie charlie george pauline jimmy mrs nelhams..   
  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Sep-2010
    Would the Nelams mentiond be relate to the Nelams in Lady Margaret Rd in the 1950s,

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Chris (Member 10220786) on 14-Sep-2010
    I knew the NELHAMS family who lived in Grove terrace late 1930's until late 1950's. I don't recall a Mary, she may well be related though. Chris xx

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2010
    thanks chris....wellington women build factory digital bbc9..was gd..24hrs complete plane built record breaking.pilot spoke of flying..was 8pm tonight..9pm pilotspits was 18 has helped make film 9pm tonight bbc2.best wishes

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Sep-2010
    Les was a good pal of mine back on the late 30's and early forties-a quiet gentle boy.

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Sep-2010
    I have the video of the assembly of this Wellington the money the workers earned went to charity.

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2010
    such gd prog today wellington.assembly etc....we saw the one at brooklands..women sewing the canvas on.pauline everybody if the tension of sew machine made slighly longer stitch.no good because danger wing get in it and danger..factory went to make prefabs after war..PAULINE everybody len has found interior photos 2007 3 horseshoes ok after 2000refurbish and interiors viaduct pubetc..in google..fl... more >>

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Sep-2010
    Yes Yvonne, I did see both documentaries last night. The "Wellington Bomber" was excellent, but "First Light" the documentary on the Spitfires in the Battle of Britain and the memoirs of an actual pilot participating was very real, and also very sad with the many pilots who didn't come back. Thank you for the details on the photos of the interior of The Three Horseshoes, but I have tried a few ti... more >>

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2010
    pauline they are on board17 also...yes awkward that flickrstream .I did get into it will try again let you know...factory women sew canvas..all hour programme exceptional...wish my dad and some of the family could have see it..2010 too late put so much interesting stuff on...1st light pilot wrote that script..young 18 yr old from grammer school tears to my eyes so well acted..and skill bbc the dog... more >>

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2010
    yes......in google.....type..............matthew blacks photostream southall...............click..............top one says 3 horsesh................so click top one he has lots there but couple dozen local pubs and interiors..click.viaduct kings arms hanwell.white hart.etc

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2010
    wellington factory ladies said 12 hr day get planes out..slave labour for nazis and no stop for food they just died worked to death.....my aunts west ave..sure they must done 12 hr day..local munitions..and she did blackout round the streets as well....she did piece work kealys..as josies june said she did also hard wk..my aunt was supervisor there the girls liked her she helped to make their mone... more >>

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Sep-2010
    Thanks Yvonne. I got them on Southallboard17 and the one you gave on Google.

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2010
    j oates loc hist librarian on tv last night filmed in ealinglibrary spoke of acton laundry town..london washing etc done there famously..he spoke of terry NELHAMs.....aka adam faith pop singer with cliff richard.tommy steele..oh boy and tv pop shows 50s 60s...nelhams was his real name..died young heart attack..stress business world clever at doing deals in fortum masons queens grocers piccadily.he... more >>

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Richard V Galley (Member 10257151) on 31-Jan-2011
    With the greatest of respect, all the texts are a mishmash of incorrectly spelt, unfinished paragraphs in some kind of short hand. Please speak in a way that everyone can understand. Now, I lived at the prefabs in Rectory Park Avenue, Northolt and went to St Anselms Catholic Primary School (1951 - 1957) run by the great Mr Moore with teachers Miss Power, Mr Murphy(Spud), Mr Trainer, Miss Wood, S... more >>

  • Re: nelhams nice family..mike chris ron janice.spoke 23 july by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 1-Mar-2011
    dear Richard . have tried to Email you, but keep getting mail returned, is address correct.
    Regards Bob Burnard.

 
History of Southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 13-Sep-2010
I have created two websites which are basically transcriptions of books written by Richard J Meads, which contain recent historys of Southall, the URL's are:

http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/growingup/index.html

http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/maypole/in... more >>
  
  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2010
    harris 1900..have you done family tree...hannah harris matthew,,brothers ..1850 cranford lane heston labourers..pre 1850 s mary hayes cencus brickfields mkt gdn botwell .dawley..hannah die 1913 age 80 buried hestn church..my nans nan...all her lots children grew uo cranford lane later new heston rd.hannah married timberlake..there was tom harris vicar west drayton mid 1800s..hannah had 2 bibles..y... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2010
    dear colin thanks so much have read your 2 page sections on google yr ago...but 1st time read whole meads booklet lovely photos.so detailed everything there.pauline len mike chris josie jimmy everybody...click on his face photo whole 6/7 pge booklet there .dylis phylis...thin booklet many yrs on library shelf gt read it tonight from colin..northcote arms fish club .football club..maypole.north rd ... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2010
    the maypole one is gd also..click on each chapter..several pages booklet..lovely...queue at the green...3 horseshoes...poem out town.....lots photos.....appreciate so grateful colin..wonderful..very detailed nice long read

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2010
    i have emailed both to myself ..copy paste and dont have to type all in top left address bar daily can just click email up it comes

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2010
    copy paste...is just blue highlight.copy..then cursa paste ..ctrl..v...........vicar st mary norwgreen says 1790 southall green which was the old original southall.onlyhamlet 33 houses.....there was farm land....my nans gdad john wingrove born s green 1806...wingroves also norw green and fern lane..1838 rail came and massive expansion.canals all....meads says 2nd w war bombs...says1944 wellington ... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Sep-2010
    This is unknow history Spit crash White St, Wellington gas works like to know more.

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2010
    was so badly tired late after reading colin pages..maypole one chapter 2ndwwar...later thought 2 planes so famous why not heard of....but just read again today..he says plane field rear beaconsfield rd retort hse...ted lawrence jack benn bunny webb got crew ok they baled out......meads says plane from northolt airport crash near bensole plant gates of gaswks..lenbowdler mr smith got dead canadian ... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 14-Sep-2010
    Dennis,

    I have tried to find more about the Wellington crash, there doesn't seem to be any mention of it in any of the publications I have on Southall.

    However on checking lostbombers.co.uk there is one possible aircraft, the date is earlier (Richard Mead's does seem at times to mix up events and dates) and the location is not correct, but this may be connected with where the crew landed rat... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Sep-2010
    News to night lady S.O.E tortured Gestapo died allone peupers grave sad end for brave lady.

  • Re: History of Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Sep-2010
    Thank you Colin will print that brill.

  • Re: History of Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Sep-2010
    This site an the people on it never fail to amaze super.

  • Re: History of Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Sep-2010
    So the white street Spitfire could be incorrect to,

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2010
    thankyou colin ..yes if landed off hampton ct and crew bailed out near gas works southall..read all mr meads richards pages so good thanks..richard1904 my cousins cracknell family lived down havelock..worked 40 yrs maypole factory...9 beverley mr meads just off norwood rd by adelaide..publishing 1980,,,,when did he pass away..barry historian our member went to see him..he has some items...library ... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2010
    denis..yes torquay..has distant relative come forward..had medal from king..so info in her flat...british legion doing funeral union jack on coffin everthing..their will bound to be portland stone engraved military gravestone....we have 30 in heston church yard.2nd w war..........did not talk of it because they feel only person who gone through it would understand and she is only one left.....cold... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 14-Sep-2010
    Yes Yvonne there is a third book, I have a copy of that as well, just need to find the time to scan it using OCR software then I can post that on the web as well.

    In answer to your question about the Harris's the names you mention are not related to me, my lot were late-comers to Southall only arriving in 1929 when my grandfather and his children moved into the home of his second wife in Wester... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 14-Sep-2010
    Denis,

    I think the Spitfire story is probably correct in terms of date as there was a Canadian squadron at Northolt at that time, the fact Richard Meads gives specific names for those involved suggests it did actually happen. As the squadron was based locally I would assume the intial burial took place in the area, either Northolt or Southall, RM says the body was exhumed and returned to Canada... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2010
    colin they all know northcote ave...yes shop..we lived west ave through alley at pub...harris ours were married baptised hayes st marys.1800s..1850s they moved into cranford lane....thanks 3rd book be grateful....at last to meet you found your sites yr ago when first used a computer....best wishes..I am 40 yrs librarian..

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2010
    yes southall ealing gazette may be the pilot....eddie munday mbe is the historian hounslow chronicle....jonathan oates ealing libraryloc hist may know of spitfire.he has written 13 bks.....so famous spitfireamazing more 1940s people did not know and tell descendants of..but meads is so good tells 3 people of wellington 3 of spit witnesses

  • Re: History of Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Sep-2010
    Thank you Yvonne for that when you were tierd.

  • Re: History of Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Sep-2010
    Yes Colin, we all knew Mrs Ive and their family, as we lived opposite them in Northcote Avenue. Remember them most for their greengrocery business. Mrs Ive used to make toffee apples during the war and we kids loved them. She was very generous to us all, as we were all hard up in those days. I loved watching them get their horse and cart all spruced up with ribbons on and the brasses polished, pr... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Sep-2010
    Yes Colin thought aircrat Northolt or Heston thank you.

  • Re: History of Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Sep-2010
    I knew a Teddy Harris-his dad was a bookie, alomg with a Mr Phelp

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2010
    gas wks canadian pilot..probably near havelock big main and only cemetery..northolt does not have cemetery....excellent wellums of bbc2 drama tonight so thoughtful..18 yrs old then after 18mths was invalided out to be instructor..bbc filming of dogfights.tonight and dan snow freeview 9.similar is good...ruislip lido spits saturday northolt airport hanger over night fri as polish veteran pilot is g... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Sep-2010
    Was the White ST, Spit crash 1944.

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2010
    it is strange something so famous huge nobody else remembers..unless it is in gazette or ealing librarians book .he may know....meads says 1944 autumn 12.30 pm midday...spit just taken off from northolt crashed by gaswks southall inside the main gates,just missing by feet the bensole plant.rear of 1/2 white st...2 named people pulled dead canadian pilot out..could not move spit for some days becau... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by John W (Member 10082501) on 22-Sep-2010
    I lived in Queens Rd during WW2. Although I was only about 7 years old, I remember us kids playing on the wing of a downed Airplane with RAF markings.
    I can't be sure but I seem to remember it was it was beside the railway lines between the houses on Queens road.

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
    thanks john plane south side of gas works......1980ish mr meads wrote could be he is remembering or his other people remembering your plane ,,,he says gates of gas works and back of no 1/2 white st well that is just near queens...says nearly bentole plant...........have a look at his 3 books.....the maypole one has chapter on war.................................type www. and the rest in top lef... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2010
    have sent 2nd letter to oates local hist library southall/ealing...he has written 13 bks denis upton books also and war....................mr meads and john w......tell us of war planes crash southall near gas wks......oates has gazette hope to get reply........age 7 what yr month are we looking up john w.........please..............nov 1940.2 raf planes chased heinkel plane yeading lane crashed b... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by John W (Member 10082501) on 22-Sep-2010
    Yvonne, I rely don't remember the exact date, but it would be more likely 1944.
    I had my eighth Birthday in May 1945 right at the end near VE Day. I remember the celebrations in Queens Road and a big bonfire in the street.
    The only other vivid memories of the war were, the time when we children were sent to the shelter at Featherstone Road school, and a huge explosion occurred so close by that s... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Oct-2010
    dear john w......on the wing of a downed raf plane.......hayes botwell green had tail wing body couple window of a heinkel......photos taken of kids sitting on it ..mums payed for spit fund..southall raised £1340 for spit fund dages brooches sold british chamber commerce marked......heinkel wreck toured country...spit fund..north east raised money.....couple days at hayes then moved on...perhaps ... more >>

  • Re: History of Southall by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 12-Oct-2010
    Just been past the Three Hoseshoes pub and it is open for business again! also the Havelock Arms in the Green. Surprised to have seen nearly 20 police officers and Community Officers from South Road to the Green.

  • Re: History of Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Oct-2010
    thanks len.....in google..southall film studios history project....good...then section says click...making history radio 4 sue cook...and listen..4.7.06...says 30 yrs..ended 50s because noise heathrow planes and small space studios..50s good tv there gladstone rd..boris karloff of the yard..etc.1924 to 1938 but burnt down..ice and dance during war...1948 open pearl dean.10 yrs.3 wks to make film..... more >>

 
war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2010
we have members who has kindly put 4 good photos board15.today...just asking which airbase plane aircrew.date..such gd photos is it a relative..thankyou..photos tell 1000 words..rare just somebody happened to have camera in old days and clicked captured important things events..gratitude..and kept safe for over 70 yrs an more...lucky thing......battle britain 5 times 3 second burst ammunition ..th... more >>   
  • Re: war photos our boards by John Taylor (Member 10248548) on 10-Sep-2010
    The first couple of years of the war,I spent as an evacuee in a little village in Sussex. The only Blitz I experienced in Southall was from the buzz-bombs,which were pilot-less mini planes packed with explosives,and the much bigger V2 rockets.
    I seem to recall a cinema getting hit,sort of out of the blue,no aircraft or air-raid warning.And people said it was a land mine that was dropped with a t... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2010
    thanks for your interesting account...the cinema may have been next to palace chinese design cinema opposite 3 horseshoes pub at the main traffic lights crossrrds of broadway...it was bomb next to cinema in doorway 2 ladies killed

  • Re: war photos our boards by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 10-Sep-2010
    TO ALL MY KNOWHERE FRIENDS I CAME OUT OF HOSPITAL TO-DAY A BIG THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR KIND MESSAGES BREAKIING NEWS THE THREE HORSE SHOES BOARDED UP.

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2010
    gt len best wishes to you...shock 3 horseshoes boarded...thanks

  • Re: war photos our boards by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Sep-2010

    Welcome back Len-good to have you with us again!

  • Re: war photos our boards by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Sep-2010
    Good to have you back on the Site again Len. We've missed you. Sorry to hear about The Three Horseshoes. Never mind we all still remember it as it was!

  • Re: war photos our boards by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Sep-2010
    Hi len glad to hear your good news, shock over Three Horse shoes will it go same way as White heart.

  • Re: war photos our boards by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Sep-2010
    Lovely picture of Three Horseshoes on SOUTHALLBOARD page 7.

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Sep-2010
    thanks pauline..it is strongly listed historic building..have read that on google.have told camra the pub society they have visited horseshoes in their historic agenda.have told kevin at lost pubs..when you think horses just there bit along from singer sewing horse market.smithy was opposite.it was part of that busy centre thriving working high st southall 1800s 1900s.mike said wedding reception t... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Sep-2010
    pauline freeview,,,301..for hyde pk....carraras...kiri..opera....terry wogan etc..then at same time bbc2 albert hall last night proms...gt night can have both

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2010
    yesterday radio4 2.30pm hour spitfireplay..only managed to catch 10 mins but hope to listen computer site.excellent inspired by real pilots war..the voces at cockpit dog fight everything so interesting.clever radio sound effects..gazette sows photos recent opening sikh school norwood green..quite crowd there...phylis.....zeppelin 1931 our boards photos hanworth airdromw just near at gt west rd.has... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2010
    denis .and lawrence..they say the harrier pub peterborough...orchard polish raf pub war ruislip..magpies heathrow famous aircrews pub....flypast mag had free booklet oct 1994 edition introduction to aeronautical pubs britain,by smith ellis..,but mainly those with plane type title..bader pub etc...barneswallis pub howden..2007nov on forum said orchard has loads photos on walls large collection...we... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Sep-2010
    John Taylor and Yvonne-bombing of cinema. The only case I know of in Southall was in 1940, when during an air raid one evening, a bomb fell on Barratt's Shoe shop next to the Palace Cinema, which killed two girls(the Purcell sisters).They had been to the cinema, and it was deduced they were sheltering from the rain in the doorway whil waiting for a bus. Dolly Purcell had been in my class at North ... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by ann Ridgway Scheu (Member 10247105) on 12-Sep-2010
    Just like to say i'm pleased Len is out of hospital and back home.Keep well,god bless.Ann.

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2010
    several members lived near john if he knows..and if he went lad marg primary and dormers the reunite site schools has lots....thanks about barrats...yes clearly remember they were worried to death about my aunt doll at cinema..they never missed the pictures.she was teenager...but doll would leave quick and walk off home 10 mins walk...raining yes if they were waiting for bus the stop was always ri... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 12-Sep-2010
    Thank you Ann for your kind thoughts the two weeks seemed like eternity I was in Ealing hospital

  • Re: war photos our boards by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Sep-2010
    Thank you once again Yvonne i have the booklet from flypast aviation related pubs,

  • Re: war photos our boards by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Sep-2010
    Michael i think you find the landmine came down in Lady Margaret Rd Laburnam grove.

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2010
    denis your nearby conigsby battle brit memorial flight hangers and maintainence on david jason tonight...so well done hour..and kent batt brit museum of all the shot up parts museum and folkestone memorial in hill..on our photo boards and next yr bomber crews etc memorial whole war green pk piccadily photo on our photos ready 2011..radio play this weekend had dog fight merlin engines pilots speaki... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Sep-2010
    Yes Yvonne been to Coningsby like
    walking into a shirne aircraft washed and polished after every flyt. also been to Folkstone B.O.B monument i belive a wall of names have been added since.

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2010
    yes denis it is much improved idea of wall names...black shiny with every single name those served..including the 3 80/90 yr old men d jason spoke to at itv film..the old carved portland stone fades etc..this black shiny looks extrememly gd their names so clear in it.wall sweeps all around ..manyphotos on board17...heston 1stwwar hounslow council to pay for clean and recarve..we wait..nag them...m... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2010
    mitchell would brobably have tears in his eyes 2010 to see shrine...hangers museum s ..and sidney parr also.......if mitchell could have seen the dog fights bombing over europe..mixed feelings sad with pride his fast etc new idea plane..schreider race venice etc....we went isle wight 1962 saw preserved fly seaplane east cowes..southampton.sea planes..hovercraft etc works....howard in film they sa... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Sep-2010
    Denis- landmine in Laburnum grove-you are probably right, but houses in Ascot Gardens were affected. A friend from school -Ian Millward -lived in Ascot Gardens.

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2010
    do you know this is very important as well as interesting and nice and funny affectionate site..but ealing local history library should take note..country huge push to get real people accounts of 20th century..and real local people of yrs of local experience mike len denis pauline everybody.there is not ..book in local local history dept publiclibrary... probably with landmine ascot.barrats..regin... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Sep-2010
    Although I was sorry to hear that The Three Horseshoes has been boarded up, I was even more sad to read the awful accounts on Google of just how badly it had deteriorated. Then, I remembered the very first and last time that I went in there. My dad was very ill in Southall Norwood hospital in September 1971, and I took my aunt and uncle to The Three Horseshoes for a drink - we all needed one. I st... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2010
    think read same 2 accounts as you.makes you feel quite bilious..long hrs complelty through night there drug selling etc prostitution..camra the pub society are going there tonight.they have informed eng herit.it is listed parr architect.only one left in country.they saved it 1989 refurbished 2000.this percentage people britain and europe etc..need to get busy with their brain and physically.to get... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Sep-2010
    B.O.B monument Capel le fern on BBCI tonight with wall and names.

  • Re: war photos our boards by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Sep-2010
    Michael Dad told me that the aftermath of the blast sucked the curtains through the closed windows joints so damage Ascot Gns probable.

  • Re: war photos our boards by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Sep-2010
    There is another name that most have never heard of is Joe Smith who saw Spitfire development thro to end of production.

  • Re: war photos our boards by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Sep-2010
    PS took over after Michells death.

  • Re: war photos our boards by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Sep-2010
    Does anyone have the title of Richard Meads books please.

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2010
    the libraries ealing broadway and southall have them..small thin booklets pbk..published 1980ish....richard j meads..was of 9 beverley ave southall green.born about 1904 all life southall..........growing up in southall from 1904..................................southall maypole and manor house booklet...............................and southall to 1982..........................are the 3 booklets..... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 17-Sep-2010
    Hello to all my friends on the site going back a few threads regarding Tony's ice cream there were two brothers Bill was the younger one there round was where we all lived Tony was a bit of a Gigolo with the ladies Bill was a a nervous character and would get confused with too many children round his barrow there name was Coai and had a cafe the top of Townsend Rd.when the father died they had a ... more >>

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2010
    thanks for tony info len..have gt time next week 2 front seats...it is good at 02...was dome.....lovely.inside...lovely tube station there..way out in river..big curve of river...we went millenium there..roof aerial ribbons acrobatics ballet....later saw king tut exhibition there...glad you are feeling bit better take care........

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2010
    on google tony ice cream factory acton memoryof there 1967....walls ice cream factory acton.the friary.1922........demarco ice cream ealing

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2010
    memories tony bros on frith photo sites chiswick.acton...tony tedeschi acton ice cream factory.and parlour1967.......walls icecream factory acton....rossi icecream......1922 italian icecream...ealing demarcos

  • Re: war photos our boards by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 20-Feb-2011
    Thanks Yvonne for all the photos you sent have put them on a CD, love all the nostalgia

  • Re: war photos our boards by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Feb-2011
    thats ok zeta..hope you ok newz..see all christchurch on tv..very sad...but wellington auckland more north..take care all the best from yvonne and tony...couple tudor rd people now say bomb at school 15 oct 1940,,,wimpeys was near and sawmills canal..they were after places to bomb...regina rd..palace cinema busstop in at shoe shop there..southall pk..hanwell asylum st bernards going for aec there.... more >>

 
bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Sep-2010
st pauls service today..ful size model spitfire outside..teatime tonight first bombs up silver stream of light of the thames highway vision from sky...mths death destruction blitz came.exhibition photos in city hall..modern glass city hall mayor london like ships sail pointing out to thames by toer bridge..board16 etc blitz photos etc.and small model spit polish raf memorial photos grounds of paul... more >>   
  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Sep-2010
    meant 10.45 daily radio...today fly pastdakota spit lancaster.also photos our boards...... st pauls and their parade city nurses firemen veterans ,pilots.those that were children.turning hitler attention from industrial military to babies kids civilians.try crush morale.greenwich foottunnel we have walked many times.44 ft down but bomb hit roof.our brunel and victorian pioneer engineers,,,,,.temp ... more >>

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2010
    my favourite david jason comedy and excellent character study acting,sunday itv 12th.9pm drama veterans war.and 7pm he speaks of it...14th sept tv radio seems to end their sincere thanks memorial tributes..freeview9 8pm wellington bomber factory n wales.10.20pm dan peter snow battle britain....14th bbc2 vera lynn story..bbc2 memoirs of pilot.bbc2 leslie howard film designer spitfire mitchell...mon... more >>

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Sep-2010
    Thank you for that Yvonne, we really were a nation together, this must rate with Nelson and the armada.

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Sep-2010
    You mention Trevor Howard film First of the Few, R.J. Mitchell bowl cancer shortend life working on Spitfire died before aircraft was airborne, also Sideny Camm for the Hurricane great people. the fire service and the ARP.

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2010
    when you are down this way see if you can pop in free nat maritme museum is fascinating...everything there...thanks..yes must be something in genes of the nation..people produced 100s yrs..proud of..our tv radio etc always seems to be best quality of the world also..the media put out 400 killed 1sy day blitz london but todays programme said more like 650 and then so many to come....gazette has it ... more >>

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2010
    yes I remember that of mitchell.he died...but gt what he achieved..remember the film several yrs ago..well done film as so many respectful the british war fims were..unlike some of the others....

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2010
    thanks about that..mr camm ..yes lots og google..hawker hurrican designer...brought up windsor.they are putting model hurrican in pk to remember him..died 1966..itv now accounts on tv

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Sep-2010
    This morning Hurricane whent over my flat from Conningsbly home of B.B.M.F I

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Sep-2010
    This morning Hurricane whent over my flat from Conningsbly home of B.B.M.F I

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Sep-2010
    Thanx Yvonne will get to maritime museum, sorry double entery com. playing up

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Sep-2010
    you are guaranteed to enjoy..staff are gt ..lots ex navy people or greenwich locals...free imperial war museum also..spivs crime that dilys told us on yesterday free channel 12 twice more today.and biggin hill channel 12 tv today.......1940s50s eastend crime..freddie spent half life in prison.other gave money to help his mum..spoke to tv cameras today...sold cigs in pubs..safe cracking..docks raid... more >>

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Sep-2010
    When I watched the film on "The Blitz" on Yesterday freeview, I noticed that on 7th September 1940 - the day the Luftwaffe elected to make the first savage bombardment on the city of London - there was a scene of a beautiful sunny Autumn day and an Icecream man with "ELDORADO" on his icecream cart. This reminded me that on a similar sunny Autumn day Len Goddard witnessed an Eldorado Icecream man g... more >>

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Sep-2010
    yes I remember len saying that last yr at the sept anniversary..glad you find yesterday freeview series interesting..it is well done....peddle ice cream van in brooklands museum several photos on boards and the one on other board with the seller and lady in street,,,,our did pull up top of west ave....did he have bell shaking a ring and was it bell clipping ring on the bike........buy one slogan o... more >>

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Sep-2010
    I'd forgotten all about the ice cream men shaking their bells. Must admit that the only ice cream bike I can remember in Northcote Avenue was Tony's. I think he was an Italian, and a big chap, and his ice cream was lovely - home made. We very rarely had them, but I can remember one hot summer's night when we children were all in bed, turning our pillows over and over to find a cool bit, my mum bro... more >>

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Sep-2010
    yes had feeling ringing hand bell..definately tonys..he must have gone down to northcote ave of come from there..many many yrs think tonys came round..got this picture in my head of the big brass handbell..calling out........wafers used to be fascinated me the scoop scrape on wafer and other one to sandwich it put on top....long before any idea of 99 choc flake.....and the metal round scoop..think... more >>

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Sep-2010
    I remember dad telling about fist siren think he said 11o/clock sunday morning on 3rd Sept put fear in everone.

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2010
    yes all around 11 am...because speech given on radio....they said it was getting on for 11.0 .....11.15.......then shock because so quickly afterwards the siren.................but then a while...just a while and they called it phoney war...but awful......they speech was told in churches.....sunday morning..2 days after hitler nazis invaded poland,..1939....1936 had been bad yr west ave,,difficu... more >>

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2010
    the yesterday free 12 channel tv.today is british expeditionary force army 1939.1938 formed in readiness nazi threat.radio 4 10.45 is blitz..always thought radio 7 if digital radio but no..tony just said on tv also channel.digital free.708 and daily all archive of bbc radio will sound on your tv..navy lark comedy 1959 today midday......happy len first day out today.....

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Sep-2010

    Denis:I can remember that 11am siren very well-the one on North Road police station- a lady fainted on the green opposite the Plough PH.It was 3 days off my 11th birthday.

  • Re: bbc breakfast tv news coming round peoples houses your blitz tale by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2010
    sir david jason,sure everybody would find interesting.sunday 7 pm and 9pm..batt brit.behind every one pilot..3000 people in total to help him.whole team of workers for each one pilot to achieve victory..pilots did the barrel roll in spitfire coming back to base over white cliffs dover...plane had only 14 secs ammunition..5 lots of 3 second bursts,,then down to refuel..pilots 17yrs old lied on enli... more >>

 
schools with all threads that come from it by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2010
today 6 part radio4...7.45 pm angela rippon.stories blitz plymouth school archive extraodinary daily life war.feltham middx kids lead up to 1st w war 1908 industrial school 534 kids.they left age 12 to manual wk and even worked age 8 etc help overcrowded dwellings parents..201 left .25 shoemaking.36 sailors..18 army..hounslow barracks always huge furelliers...22 emigrated...canada australia coloni... more >>   
  • Re: schools with all threads that come from it by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2010
    radio serial..again tonight..liverpool..wednesday london..thursday birmingham..plymouth blitz head put in school log 25%turned up.8deceased enemy action.put childrens names..mum dad kids 8 of one family died..to this day she cannot go underground..hear the screams.her diamond wedding anniversary this yr 60 yrs,air raid shelter but not sleep...head said kids half asleep...school brick shelter sang ... more >>

  • Re: schools with all threads that come from it by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2010
    itv news now rare colour film found in attic,,war yrs...bbc2 tues 14 sept batt britain.....board16 last of blitz photos....liverpool radio series newspapers censored not to let germans know what bombed..not to scare keep moral up britain..so said nw england not say liverpool.just said casualties not heavy for the scale of the german attack...yet it was very bad indeed...gunnesbury pk acton..antiaircraft gun was there

  • Re: schools with all threads that come from it by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Sep-2010
    Yvonne's mention of AA guns in Gunnesbury Park,remind me that when I was at Southall Tech, our Sports Fields were in Hayes, on the North side of the Uxbridge Road-forget where.
    There ws a Searchlight Battety next to us. Once when we arrived for an afternoon's sport, a number of AA ATS girls came out in gym kit. This was greeted with wolf whictles etc-our master Mr Hughes reprimanded us for unge... more >>

  • Re: schools with all threads that come from it by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2010
    north side that would be brookside yeading brook..over spikes bridge.football club moved over there..2 long fields path down far right north side to yeading lane off willowtree...that utube film is good quality 657/667 buses.busy shopping hounslow high st 1960.......www.youtube.com/watch?V=GeItlv6Ry-s..........busch corner by syon lane..isleworth depot..drivers getting in cabs.hounslow heath..chis... more >>

  • Re: schools with all threads that come from it by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Sep-2010
    Yvonne-you are dead right. If I had cycled to school and later to the sports ground, I would come home on the route you described, going over Spikesbridge.

  • Re: schools with all threads that come from it by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2010
    1960 there was the bumpy field first then sraight along far back north back sports long fields path to yeading lane...cows all through fence milked them early 7am ..now housing estate...but often ok through bumpy..but once sandals...suddenly saw blood...family at work when got in but blind lady mrs woods next door..never ask for anything but had to ..her dear husband drove me hillingd hosp stitch ... more >>

 
3rd September by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Sep-2010
It doesn't seem a year since we were marking this historic day. As then, I am sure many of us will be remembering those who were lost in the following six years. Never may they be forgotten.   
  • Re: 3rd September by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2010
    yes.......the heat of today ..always indian summer this time yr.......airfields they sat out waiting telephone to ring again..up so many times day...week.....phone rang in the film....tired shock but ready to go...relief..tea up boys was phone call....young pilots only done little hrs were the first to die..lack experience....youngster heard the phone thought go up again...no...so shock turned to ... more >>

  • Re: 3rd September by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2010
    some good accounts on google 11 am 3 sept 1939..2 days after poland invaded..radio announce war ..sir edward heath in kitchen at radio in broadstairs over looking english channel heard news gives account.....we met him new forest evening rose crown pub with his partner......quiet summer evening had by all.pub quiz etc.......

  • Re: 3rd September by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Sep-2010
    THE thing to remember is that these young pilots most couldent drive a car yet thay whent up 4/5 times a day in these lovely fast aeroplanes.

  • Re: 3rd September by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Sep-2010
    THE thing to remember is that these young pilots most couldent drive a car yet thay whent up 4/5 times a day in these lovely fast aeroplanes.

  • Re: 3rd September by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2010
    bbc 2 now...evacuees.1940s.....spitfire fund...fete on empire day.raise money....throw wet sponge stalls or wellie throw....flags...brass band....aspects of the empire..rule britannia..dressed up....dress up hussars..india..jamaica..hongkong...etc...victorias jewel in crown..the buck palace exhibition is wonderful victorias ivory throne...everything there special items..3hrs had good look......thr... more >>

  • Re: 3rd September by Don HemmingsDon (Member 10246079) on 4-Sep-2010
    Allenby Rd Abeautiful sunny Sunday morning all the kidson the street playing King-tag with a tennis ballAsiren sounded and every mother on the street rushed out to grab their child,in such a panic as if the whole German Army was about to come round the corner. The war had started. This is my memory of that time

  • Re: 3rd September by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2010
    don...allemby pub has been boarded over yr now....thanks for your memories..photos on our 15 ..boards.....beehive pub still open

 
The Blitz by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 30-Aug-2010
Daily Mail this week excerpts from book "The Blitz" The british under attack.Published by Harper Press on Sept 2nd 2010 cost £25.00.AuthorJuliet Gardiner.Anyone who remembers living through WW2 will find this very interesting.Tomorrow's extract is Sex,drink and looting in Blitz Britain.Todays was The Hell beneath the infero which deals with life of Londoners in Shelters and hthe underground. Fascinating reading.   
  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Aug-2010
    thanks dilys will try get to read it...ron davo jand sister..and jean edwards..we have just had jason donovan on..loads history and stories of australia.family tree geneology..when you get it..repeatedfri bbc 2 7pm..his newsreader singer mum.her australian both sides to 1800s.pioneers.len knows his actor singer dad terry.whos dad lived next to northcote arms pub just off southall broadway.his gt g... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Aug-2010
    Thanks for the tip Dilys. I've just read the two pages in the "Daily Mail" on the "Blitz" and my god it's absolutely heart breaking. It makes you realise what hell it was for London and the major cities. I still reiterate what I've already said - how proud I am of the people of this country during that terrible time.

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2010
    thanks dilys pauline and historian dr juliet lives east london.amazon bk £6.75 pbk wartime.click enlarge scroll arrows read pages.782pgs index.looters .tarts .woolton pie..MIKE .... might help..wikipedia batt brit written by germans..history written by the victors....but propoganda of them saying won because 14 nations helped pilots raf...allies..http.//de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftschlacht_um_England.....in german

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2010
    roy hudd wed bbc1 7.30..londoners talk of their blitz.news jason hawkes just taken off in helicopter his books photos..latest is london night..red glow hse parliament tower bridge remember when they put the floodlights on it.white dome..sky skraper towers,,mauve wheel.st pauls white clean now floodlite,,we have 2 of his books large pbk foot size..sale tesco were small price.lovely quality photos..... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2010
    google juliet daily mail on line and nice lot of her blitz book there.and photos..children hammock across tube track train platforms etc.she is leading historian of ordinary people..tv series of 5..1940s house 2001 was extremely good I enjoyed..she was advisor..she writes animals at war..chislehurst caves kent...aldwich tube station bm had their elgin marbles etc along side blitz people..church cr... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 31-Aug-2010
    have just ordered my copy on Amazon-thanks all!

  • Re: The Blitz by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Aug-2010
    You just beat me to it, Michael. Thanks Dilys and Yvonne. I've also got it through Amazon!

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2010
    just reading local hist...firestones tyres gt west rd..golden mile//my aunt talked go one gate to next guaranted job so many along...cousin wked firest married then australia..1928 open.1979 closed to usa...art deco gates in museum london behind st pauls,,,been often good....and pawn broker 3 brass balls brentford displayed same museum..ve day flood lite firestones redwhite blue..xmas santa rudolf... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 31-Aug-2010
    There were still a lot of wicked people about even then.Looters,robbers and worse.
    I remember an incident when I was about 3 yrs old. We were living in Beresford Rd. House converted to two flats and we were in the top one. Every night I used to go down to say goodnight to the couple downstairs who I called Auntie Daisy and Uncle Harry.No lights on.One night a man was standing on the stairs and gr... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 31-Aug-2010
    Good price on Amazon. £22.50 if ordered through Daily Mail.

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2010
    thats alarming dilys glad you ok....always heard of boggie man when kids..but rows rows council hses etc,,,we never ever thought of pvc double glazing bolting locks up the inner windows doors..security..alarms cameras.....wood window ..door mortice lock key locked..thats it nothing to steal,,no technology items luxury gds...fire insurance for contents if fire from coal fire or candle to bed....but... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Sep-2010
    The mention of Gillettes brings to mind a cafe on same side opp corner called the Better Hole in the 1950 named after WW1 trench i belive it a garage now. Also Mafarlan & Lang behind Gillettes.

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2010
    yes did not know another biscuit co..advert in new scientist for laboratory quality control macfarlane lang co.isleworth..so as you say by gillettes..yes garage on corner big one been many yrs....that big turn at gilletts used to be black spot all traffic all directions the workers...I worked beechams library and heard of commuters troubles there...golden mile of xmas trees lights at xmas..gillett... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2010
    pinchpunch 1st mth ..no returns..ha..photos on board12 today..blitz bk of dilys..war photos rations etc..airbus and spithurr recent vets flight..horse rickmansw by harefield middx grand union canal museum festivals.bridge barge.etc....sky tv several yrs by gillettes now eamon holmes breakfast show then off down river to do thismorning itv with wife ruth..pyrene 1957 1000 employees each factory..fi... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2010
    today.this morning itv .80 yrs old brenda absailing down side tv studio window..opposite st pauls..photos board12 milestones hampshire museum open air chiltern exhibits..cowley iver lots photos painted elabourate barge flowers jugs painted custom photos etc

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2010
    coast fantastic series bbctv2..tonight 8pm hull down to london essex thames estuary etc..blitz bbc1 7.30..my uncles went to snookersouthall broadway near top alexandra ave.hurrican higgins on tonight 9pm tribute

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2010
    couple long pages daily mail on google..blitz book...very detailed..interesting to read extracts...aug sept mail on line.........in google ..loose women looting murder draker side blitz....but emotional chapters as well coventry hospital..warden calling in shelter cathral been bombed..lady kept her baby away from shelter because they complained of her whooping cough she let other kids go shelter..... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Sep-2010

    Thats right Yvonne Sperrys bottom Boston manor turn left for Brentford,

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2010
    was reading factory golden mile used war..was it sperry sci intruments ..raf flight..piece work,,all working so hard war effort..good people..remember my aunt saying that when factories full pelt was first time they had ever heard decent wage..born 1914 and her mum 1890 northhyde had back through time keep the workers done kept at low wage...west ave they started to help nan at last..give her bit ... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Sep-2010

    Sperry-a number of my friends did apprenticeships at Sperry-am still in touch with two.

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2010
    thought was flight instruments..just read 1931 to gt west rd 250 employees.from 1915 shep bush..busy during war and your friends know of expect..board11 jason donovan family tree middx certificates..board12 norwood green smithy..board131/14 blitz book etc of dilys comment...etc etc.yesterdays navy cartoon for len.holmes just arrived tv studiosLATE from by gillettes says chiswick hammersmith etc av... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Sep-2010
    Sperrys an American company made aircrft auto pilots ect.

  • Re: The Blitz by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Sep-2010
    Glad no new runway hope Sipson not demolished, to much old Middx vanishing in name of progress

  • Re: The Blitz by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2010
    having read quite bit of blitz book etc..photos tell thousand words so good collection on board15 and colour etc...just said diana dors which len and those mentioned..when she became hard up ..troubles..had rolls royce so slept in it...she was fighter all her life ..helped on ailing itv breakfast show..now they have been defunct again ..new show new set people starting up new thing,,so good luck t... more >>

  • Re: The Blitz by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 20-Feb-2011
    I worked at Sperry's frp, 1948 to 1955, and can remember getting food parcels coming from the USA real good too, all sorts of goodies, I worked in the Purchasing Dept, when they were doing stuff for the Woomera Rocket Range in Australia

 
GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Chris (Member 10220786) on 29-Aug-2010
Sorry to hear Len is in Hosp. Give him our love & a big hug. Get well soon Len! Chris x   
  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 29-Aug-2010
    Yes. get well soon Len. I shall miss the funnies.

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Aug-2010
    See you soon Len.

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Ron Cox (Member 10234401) on 29-Aug-2010
    Get well soon Len, we will be waiting for you to be on deck.All Aussie readers.

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 30-Aug-2010
    Hope they get you sorted soon Len. Ealing Hospital much improved - had extremely good care in there recently, and food too vastly improved.

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 31-Aug-2010
    Len is making good progress and is now looking forward to possibly getting a place in the Pakistan Cricket team; as a fast bowler as he has heard they have had a few recent problems!

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2010
    good to hear good progress..very best wishes..yes cricket..but otherwise husband lifetime follower but so disappointed not get it on tv like always used to..

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2010
    extrememly kind of caroline to put herself out sent us the link,,,she is doing story of terry .jasons father...tv did not have time to do middx of terry.the gdad len knows.....find my past has done terrys middx side..all certificates on link ..1911 living born feltham and sunbury,register district census officer is district stainesfor feltham...several sons walter.james john.dan.fred.charles dono... more >>

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 4-Sep-2010
    Poor Old Len another weekend in Hospital awaiting test and then an angioplasty and then should be home mid week. Not in a very friendly ward.

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2010
    hope all goes well soon..everybody thinking of him and family wishing you all the best sincerely

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 5-Sep-2010

    Just to add my good wishes to the others-look forward to when you are back on the site.

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by josie (Member 10235627) on 5-Sep-2010
    Get well soon Len..best wishes Josie Jimmy & June.

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Sep-2010
    Thinking of you Len and hope all goes well with the op. Looking forward to seeing you back on the Site again. It's not the same without you. Regards Pauline

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 9-Sep-2010
    Len is due out of Stalag Luft Ealing on Friday all being well, is certainly looking/feeling a lot better. I have passed on all your kind wishes, Thanks.

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Sep-2010
    friday congratulations len.so glad you are looking feeling lot better

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Sep-2010
    So pleased that you are looking and feeling better Len and should be home on Friday. Glad you didn't escape earlier. Very best wishes to you.

  • Re: GET WELL SOON LEN......... by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 9-Sep-2010
    Len-so pleased you are coming home. The site is not the same without you!

 
poetry verse rhyme by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Aug-2010
our english lends itself well to gentle rhythm ryme..ongoogle.our raf pilot vet on heathrow airbus flight yesterday..gentle voice tells his own poem..william walker.of 14 pilots and 15 widows aboard..seems.beechy head white cliffs dover biggin hill..home counties isle wight north france netherlands part of n sea..where they flew battle britain.over there bases.back to heathrow seems to say 2 hrs..... more >>   
  • Re: poetry verse rhyme by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Aug-2010
    What a nice outing for the vets of the B.O.B god bless them.

  • Re: poetry verse rhyme by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Aug-2010
    yes they did look enjoying it on news..gunners and pilots meant to say...just found out mem flight spit hurric..was over festival rickmansworth may 2010..they are busy all time..woods bury st ruislip up to rickmansworth had batt brit hse..had raf badges around the dining rm walls....council would not let raf have it turned into college..last summer wine actors on radio 4 chatting.ron hazelhurst mu... more >>

  • Re: poetry verse rhyme by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Aug-2010
    william walker interview long page interesting on google...veteranpilotbattle britain...pilot gunners 14 of them on memorial airbus flight yesterday.......putting larger photo western rd southall football club on board...says 20000 crowd in 4 stands..huge......my cousin enquires our aunt's husband,,,jackie harper played football india 2nd w war then hounslow football club 40s/50s think houns town ... more >>

  • Re: poetry verse rhyme by Elaine Doe (Member 10177088) on 6-Nov-2010
    Hi Yvonne
    I don't know if I can be of any help in your quest re Jackie Harper but I am his niece...
    I have posted some photos of him playing for Hounslow on the Griffin Park Grapevine website. I'll be happy to help if I can.

  • Re: poetry verse rhyme by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Dec-2010
    6 nov sorry elaine not see on next pge here....got your photos thanks lovely...happy xmas to you..sincere thanks daphne thrilled

 
brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2010
dear josie...just seen very similar to jimmys own photograph 1900s he has kept in family so well....google site labourers northolt 1891 old northolt.............it covers white hart pub area over to canal brickfields marina willowtree..yeading brook.....photo lots men ages similar to jimmys photo..same big wheel above them wire...as he described to me at fete...have put it on board14......names be... more >>   
  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2010
    denis you were gd enough to say ICI bullets kynack yeading.my uncle builder complained of toxic contamination....google site..hillingdon chat..hillingdon...........................cadium contaminate.soil put over to hayes bypass built skull cross bones signs both sides..one hse bathroom fell through subsidence..kids picked up thousands bullets..other area hses rock solid ground....tesco on milit d... more >>

  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2010
    len...just had email from caroline doing jasons father terrybiography......jason..who think you are monday.....she says dad terry left eng with his mum ethel armsby and brothers for australia...so no father..you know the father northcote ave donovan......terry has autobio called between the lines......terry went back to southall oce young man sang..act..then back australia actor..terry in neighbou... more >>

  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2010
    southall family so tree on bank holid mon...james m donovan...len knows northcote ave...married ethel arnsby...son terry born kensington 1942 ..arnsby family on google from kensington...jason sean born 1 june 1968 melbourne..............says gdad james may be was 2nd wife marlene..........ethel takes all sons australia..terry comes back 1960s.1967 tvworks sing theatre acting.then goes back austra... more >>

  • Re: brickfields by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Aug-2010
    Yvonne the area you mention marina Durdans ect is where the steam crane was it must have dated from the turn of the 20th century like to know what happend to it, also does anyone remember the bike dirt track in the 50s used to race Sunday afternoons on Durdans field.

  • Re: brickfields by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Aug-2010
    Yes Yvonne G.P.O Yeading 1950 big fire there then

  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2010
    yes steam crane could easily be strong stone foundations.only thing left there..surrounded by old frame wood ruins all around..the pond of what were brickworks dug out is along from it then the marina then south to spikes...my aunt worked gpo there 1962 to 1969..thanks

  • Re: brickfields by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Aug-2010
    Crane on length of r/way track

  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2010
    thats like the track they had at northhyde my gt gdad lived along by brickfields..track to docks canal..bricks to london..built up .and norwood green bricks built nash architect buck palace...just see few bits evidence over other side west of durdans where brickfields etc towards willowtree,,,,,arch footpath bridge still there across canal back of durdans..thanks just telling tony your info...ta...

  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2010
    lots on google...steam cranes side canal rail track...huge photo one at panama canal...we go docklands east london on tube.....lovely docks soe historic boats...and they kept the architecture of the hugehigh cranes at edge as art form.......like churchills funeral all cranes along by tower london..bent over lowered in salute to him as barge coffin went along..and then poor nelson..up thames to fun... more >>

  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2010
    photos of foundations remains ruins on board7 opposite durdans across canal willowtree.....steam cranes rail etc....northolt willowtree etc on board14..and northolt airport nice ones

  • Re: brickfields by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Aug-2010
    Lots of historic london came from Southall clay

  • Re: brickfields by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Aug-2010
    wrong west London clay

  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2010
    that canal going into paddington..great quality bricks for growth london..southall etc......1850 gt gdad was brickmaking northhyde...clamps or kiln......photos on recent boards14/131......moulds...josie uncle southallgreen brickworks age 83 at fete showed his photo men with big wheel over top...wire.....apparatus mix the clay....huge gravel pits left....gdad and son bricklayer gaffer ganger man to... more >>

  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2010
    northolt pony race track photos info stories on board14.last summer wine sunday..33 series...nora batty bill owen comp...my aunt lived yorkshire went to village green gingham curtain cafe and she went to free tickets leeds countdown show..studio shots summer wine shepperton..bbc broadcasting hse also did audio for some of it..we went free tickets and cast made jokes to entertain us from stage whil... more >>

  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2010
    northolt pony race course top lady margaret..roads there now called ascot haydock..brit pathe news films google empire cup 1938sept..and northolt derby...photos 1st sept on boards no room at moment and lovely ones northolt airport..pioneer new photofinish and had large electric clock ponies release from starting gate.1936 pioneer of starting gate...stands..huge crowds in films..earl harewood and w... more >>

  • Re: brickfields by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 28-Aug-2010
    Just to let People know; Len is again going to be 'Out of Action' for a while.....Is in Ealing Hospital with a touch of Engine Trouble..Is okay but does not like being in there much.
    Is busy planning an escape in order that he may again enjoy his friend 'John Player'..Filter Tipped!

  • Re: brickfields by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Aug-2010
    Get well soon Len, but no escaping. We'd rather have you back fighting fit!

  • Re: brickfields by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 28-Aug-2010

    Amen to that!

  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Aug-2010
    very best wishes to len and family..take care.lots of love from the gang

  • Re: brickfields by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Aug-2010
    just noticed.local lad.now age 84..on short page of this site,,he has put that he knows len well.gd memory of len ..school with len same class dormers..lived dane rd to 1952 now trinidad..hugh putt with tears in eyes put his memory at end march 2010..tudor rd ,,miss jones used to clout around the ear..sammy reeves music teacher...hugh went to tudor rd school,........todays southall gazette memorie... more >>