Smiths from Southall
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by Richard Owen (Member 10243967) on 20-Jan-2010
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Hi. Does anyone remember my relatives from SOuthall in the
1940s/50s/60s? My grandparents were Eddie Smith and Mary Smith (nee
Crabtree). Born born around 1920/21, they lived in Southall for years,
Montague Road, Stratford Road, Spencer Street. My nan was Henrietta
(Hettie) Smith and she lived there, in Saxon Gardens. She died in 1975
aged 85. My mum is Patricia (Pat) Smith and was was born i n 1942. She went to Clifton Road School and Western Road School then Twickenham Tec. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2010
edward smith 7 tudor rd near
saxon 1914....ed smith 3 buckingham terrace havelock rd near
..1914...arthur james smith saxon rd southall 1914.see historial
directories post office list free on google..best wishes
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2010
nice photos inside gas wks..hayes
bypass at opening.aec.canal etc etc..google...pictures southall in
ealing your local web 4 pges
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Jan-2010
Richard, have you tried FriendsReunited ??
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Local transport books
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 19-Jan-2010
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Further to my posting about the Shepherds Bush - Uxbridge tram book
pulished by Middleton Press, a look on their website reveals other tram
and also railway books "Paddington to Ealing" and "Ealing to Slough"
Also West London Branch Lines which includes the Greenford, both
Uxbridge and the West Drayton to Staines West Branches. Loads of old
photos and info.
Middleton Press are now at Midhurst, W Sussex
- Re: Local transport books
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jan-2010
lots photos of all things on the hayes site...barry has some there...probably trams as well
- Re: Local transport books
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 19-Jan-2010
Keith: mention of the West
Drayron-Staimes West branch brings back memories of my dad. He was a
keen angler, and many is the time I went with him. We had to get up at
the crack of dawn, so that da could get a workmans ticket! If I remember
correctly, the River Colne ran by the station.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2010
KEITH pauline len
everybody...site...20th century lovely old tree....several videos utube
and lots photos.......and trams,,,, ...etc
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Jan-2010
Thank you Yvonne for those lovely
photos. It was so good to see the old "Feathers" pub and Ealing
Broadway station as I remembered it. I worked just around the corner
from there in 1946-48. I see that Ealing Town Hall hasn't changed -
except for the advertisement outside giving directions to "Macdonalds".
We held all our EMI dances there in the late 40's. It was also great to
see Ealing Broadway as it used to be. Thank you once again.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2010
I lived there 5half yrs.got bus
along acton high st job..and worked london from the station central
line,,walk up eaton rise...no huge shop mall then..just bentals john
sanders my cousin worked in material section..library at green
...park.mattock lane theatre..fresh coffee grind shop there many
yrs....tony and I went in feathers..abc tea shop sold bread cakes in
window was opposite..taxi rank on green..buses in all directions.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Feb-2010
pauline old town hall percival
hse not changed.good architecture//weddings inside.steps for photos..but
new civic centre to west corner now many yrs...recently 2nd one opened
up next to it..glass etc.....1900s small tree later photo larger. 1980s
new undercover mall with library,,,,behind sanders......all through yrs
busy there.......people still have it as main shop centre as always
have....internet
shopping popular but people still like day out browse.....coffee
relax.....lunch out......lots photos 4 boards now..several ealing roof
tops french spire pointed type architecture,,west ealing.also etc.good
olympic gold ice skate and now the mens.perfect amazing such pleasure
the skill.. ... more >>
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soccer
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jan-2010
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1946 to 1950 southall soccer.thanks ron.aec clubteam 1949 1950
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NORTH ROAD
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 17-Jan-2010
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My parents owned RMT at 45 North Road - a shoe repair shop; as well as repairing shoes
my family made CHAIN MAIL for many films in the 1950's........IVANHOE -
THE BLACK KNIGHT are the films I remember. Mum hired a lot of the local
housewives to knit the armour with string to patterns she made up -
father & grandfather then dyed the suits brown, sprayed them with
silver paint & ironed them to make
the stitches flat. They then put soles & heels on the foot part of
the leggings. I think the money they earned went into THE PLOUGH in
North Road!
I have the local newspaper when they were front page news. Mum actually
had to measure ALAN LADD for his suit in the BLACK KNIGHT....she said
he was very short - about 5ft 4in tall. Her claim to fame!!!! She's 95
now remembers it all like yesterday. I have sent some old photos for
Yvonne to add to the site.
Chris x ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
that is so interesting and so
lucky they were to have your mum and everybody.1953 sept to dec.pinewood
says ladd bit of drunkard..janet leigh.tony curtis.peter
cushing,patrick troughton later dr who.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Jan-2010
How fantastic making the Chain
Mail for Alan Ladd! Oooh, he certainly set our pulses racing at the
pictures. Thought your mother looks marvellous - can't believe she's 95.
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by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 17-Jan-2010
Brought back memories re:Alan
Ladd in the Black Knighjt.Think I mentioned before my dad's
brother-in-law Jim Hole who lived in one of the big houses facing
Norwood Green owned the film & stage prop hire in Witley Gdns. I
think it's still there and called the Trading Post. Anyway when I was a
young lad he gave me his swowd from the film, it was actually made of
wood painted silver in an asbestos scabbad, which was covered in velvet. Obviously the sound of metal against metal was added. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
fantastic starting to get chain mail now..tony try put it on flickr
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
chris pauline barry len..and
all...ok on board2....2 lovely photos chain and shop...so good thanks
chris...anymore please.....click comment under chain photo and get chris
lovely words...description is often on photos..love from yvonne
tonyxx.great if can see chris if mum well and pauline len fete..happy
birthday lady you look great
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 17-Jan-2010
Thanks for uploading those photos
on flikr - site 2 - Yvonne. I am so proud of my Mum. In the photo
outside their shop she was 41 & my Dad was 43. My grand-dad who is
also in the other photo retired at the age of 80 - he died aged 81.
What a character he was & what a life he had!!!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
thats the way to go enjoy your
career and what he enjoyed .he passed away yr after.thats sad not bit
more resting but he must have enjoyed to 80 his people and job..looks
jolly man in photos.wished had popped in shop on way to school ..did not
know..lovely load of the greats grandchildren..and this last little one
making another great...gazette would love to celebrate them..photo new
baby 2010....not many true southall left.with string generations..and worked southall shop all those yrs.... ... more >>
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 17-Jan-2010
The Lord Allemby Pub Allemby Rd which is not far from North Rd is boarded up,regards Josie.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
allemby josie.wonder how
long...pubs all over places.boarded..supermkt beer cheaper..restaurant
pubs thriving...allemby they all used..put jubillee pk and dormers 1950s
on flickr..if you have any I can put on for you..best wishes...tony
just said bbc computer says heavy snow wed london.but rain thurs....I
have put grandad builder on phots
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
josie have put RT Warren photo on
flickr for your uncle...and joan thick blonde hair and daughter suzanne
blonde long thick hair ..for pauline..1958approx bognor beach.with
angela age 3
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
josie 7 photo northola you spoke
of on our flickr and some snow shots...chris tine came to dormers
from north rd family same time as us
she remembers all names as I do etc etc
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by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 17-Jan-2010
Boy even more memories, I
remember delivering milk to the shoe shop (circa 1967) and they fitted
quarter irons to my first pair of Gibsons (circa 1972) happy days. Long
gone are small family buisnesses with family hsitory and heritage, it
was people like your family which made Britain GREAT.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jan-2010
Sad about the pubs. Another
chapter of our social history is closing. In EVERY recession, there
is always one industry that never comes out of it, This has always been
the same from the demise of turnpikes, canals etc theough every other
recession that has seen the end of steam boilers, sealing wax, carbon
paper, typewriters etc. This time it will be pubs. Enjoy them
while you can. All
over the U K pubs are closing because of Tescos Sainsbury's etc selling a
case of beer for the price of two pints in the local pub and also you
can now get 140 channels on your t.v. in your own home and don't have to
listen to mouthey yobs in a pub. Tese pubs were once a backbone of
British (mainly English) communities. Their closing can only make us
even more insular and destroyong community spirit still further: > -
not good. I think there will be very few pubs like the Lord Allenby
etc left in just 5 years from now. ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jan-2010
............and yes of course
Vince, milkmen were another casualty of a previous recession when the
big Co's got their way and were allowed to sell fresh milk in
supermarkets. All these labour intensive type delivery systems (such
as the CORONA MAN) could not be sustained with the higher minimum wage
and the price of deisel, road tax etc. Nearly everyone in West Ealing
had milk delivered by Job's
Dairy, whereas in north Hanwell it was Express Dairy who came down from
Greenford with their depot behind Williams Brothers store. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
express dairy hillingdon and
ruislip south big express depot but gone several yrs ago....so many
hanwell west ealing ealing broadway canal etc photos on our two
different flicka boards now keith everybody
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jan-2010
Yes Express Dairy VERY big in
Ruislip, (farm??), but had Greenford Delivery depot. Also they had a
"model farm" by the river twixt Richmond & Petersham. Co-Op milk
had their own siding and milk dock by West Ealing Station. Train load
of milk tankers delivered there every weekday pulled by special train
from Pembrokeshire (Neyland I think) Unigate had their milk trais
deliver to Wood Lane depot twixt Shepherds Bush & Wormwood Scrubbs ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
yes 2 big farms prior and the
other 1887 farm ..old house with date on still there but foxes bats in
it falling down,,,by polish war memorial..plenty cow fressions out in
green belt fields still there a40 western ave
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
josie chris tine....photos now
dormers on our flickr...trevor bayliss at reunion...boys school2000...as
chris says baylis also at north rd school 150 yrs celebration she
attended..teachers at dormers return wish had known loved to have
gone,,,,did not have computer then did not think of course millenium
reunions..
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jan-2010
Unigate were of course United
Dairies in those days. They had last dairy delivery (to the schools)
in Hanwell by old milkman (his name was Mr Grinter) with horse &
cart ended about 1954. Co-Op milk always very watery as
Pembokeshire very wet and few real dairy cow breeds there. The huge
long milk trains left from Neyland for West Ealing every day but were
made up of tankers coming from other
parts of the county such as Aberayon and Newcastle Emlyn etc. All the
tankers marshalled together and a long trainload then sent to W Ealing
sidings where all the milk bottles were washed out daily and lorries
left the yard in Manor Road for all over London
Express milk always thickest. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
RON COX thanks your soccer
dormers 1946 photo flickr...is that you about 4/5th along back
standing,,,come on dont be shy ha....good photo..great thanks,,,do
schools reunite free site they add photos free
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
walking to work last yr as
several times truck drivers etc ask way...french milk.driver..hello is
this way ...outside total french petrol station...I said oh ask in there
please...m25 brings all forein lorries etc from southampton or
dover.......apparently the supermarket plastic pints now everybody gets
lasts week in fridge is all from france etc
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
ron you all lok 13 dormers
1946..is it back field ar dormers..suppose all the hses had been built
along there then.those bungalows my best friend lived...trevor baylis
the well known inventor was at dormers late 40s early 50s.he was at
reunion 2000.and teachers..miss morris mrs grey mrs foot of 1966 I know
have passed away we were friends with foot to the end,..baylis the clock
..tv presenter..lives eel pie island near isleworth thames many yrs now ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
acton ealing 1901 tram on wire great picture thanks is that you ron
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
thanks aec soccer 1949 about 40 men on it know any len and everybody...type comment
- Re: NORTH ROAD
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
thanks aec soccer 1949 about 40 men on it know any len and everybody...type comment
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by Ron Cox (Member 10234401) on 18-Jan-2010
Yes Yvonne thats me at 14yrs. In the AEC photo I am right in the middle,8th from LHS back row, aged 17yrs.
The Dormers photo was taken in the playing field behind the school.
I came across the tram picture and connected with the one in
southallboard2 and thought it might be of intrest. How far the trams ran
along the Uxbridge Rd I do not know but during the war a bomb dropped
at the top of Saxon Rd exposing tram lines.Thanks for recent info.RON ... more >>
- Re: NORTH ROAD
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jan-2010
Ron, the trams ran from Shepherds Bush to Uxbridge from their depot in Hanwell Broadway
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2010
thanks ron 8th will
look..uxbridge to shepherds bush trams..pauline says crossing lines not
easy shoe get caught..but bomb broke the line..field back dormers nice
big..we sat out hot sun revise exams..run track did relay long jump
hurdles...and bash in mud at hockey leathal sticks..thanks photos any
more...2000dormers reunion did not know or would have gone.trvor baylis
invented a clock.late 40s there
went reunion and teachers...too far you come to norwood green fete
southall board reunion but some want to come but are couple hrs away on
saturday...nice meal at plough pub restaurant on the green huge garden
chairs tables..but that trek home..hope can come... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jan-2010
Shoes sometimes got caught in the
lines, yes, but more often it was cycle wheels as the slots in the
tramlines were just the right size to get caught. There was even a
road traffic sign in some places (but not on Uxbridge Road as far as l
know) saying "Tram pinch" where lnes merged, Uxbridge Road route was
number 7 which became 607 when the Trolleybuses took over. About 5 or
so years ago a book was published by "Middleton Press" about the Uxbridge Road tram route ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2010
will try look for book..ealing
council for while now keep thinking return trams...residents mainly say
no..thank info keith best wishes you and partner...good tram photos on
our flickr and one unique one I found cricket match field church spire
in background brent river flood plain hanwell greenford.......hope snow
not so bad now
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jan-2010
Have just seen on Middleton
Press's own website. They have a couple of dozen or so local area
tramway books, The following one is still in stock > >
Tramway Classics
Shepherds Bush and Uxbridge Tramways
including Ealing
ISBN 978 1 901706 28 4
£15.95 ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2010
thanks keith also going to
library today see what got...that nice big metropolitan suburbs was good
few yrs ago....got some uxbridge ones bringing all and phot prints to
fete july...more people are trying to come barrys extensive local hist
soc collections sounds great...dilys mike bring your bks and elect
roll..great
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2010
ron you have prince william over
there.but new zealand...his long time partner kate middleton of her
mother her grandmother aunts..southall clarence st 1900s.hard life
poor..near gas works...kates mum went off be air stewardess met airline
chap..now own business millionares..seem good girl kate keeps
quiet..thats great
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Jan-2010
Thank you Yvonne for the photos
of Joan and the children. It was sad to learn how ill she became. As you
say it's a pity there were not a lot of photos taken in those early
days. Just the odd one or two.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2010
yes my funny little camera
1958ish...was completey plastic brown case .my aunt payed spastics
charity for yrs ,,and it came in post some thankyou gift..put film in
took it to dormers took some photos of the girls...all snall bw..they so
happy larking about gt photos have put some on dormers site///but tiny
square photos...tony has scanned put on computer and I see their faces
for first time in 50yrs,,,large
now so nice...16 west ave 1953 taken by my uncle cheap camera..tiny 1
inch sq b/w ..honest....never seen faces all my life now tony computer
they are large...great..nobody else in family had camera so they so
choked on family tree work no photos 1950s60s...couple studio or farm
gazette photo workers one...but nothing else....they crave to see their
ancestors..sorry I cannot no money for cameras...16 west ave moved 1961
to small flat hayes my aunt went berserk threw everything out gave
away..she brought down.big box cardboard of stuff,,,without her knowing I
went through as fast as could behind her back and salvaged some of my
baby photos etc tiny but lucky got something..she was not
sentimental.joan suddenly found lump age 50s had chemo etc...got ill
with cancer tablets etc 114 that terrible treatment.never complained.we
cheered her up our visit.she died few mths later,several did smoke cant
remember if joan did.her husband groovy man swell guy died young heart
attack,she brought up 3 children 114..my uncle her brother idolised
joan.she was all their favourite frank lives hayes end,,victor they were
both in st mary convent orphanage for a while.emma did not cope/ ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Jan-2010
All this talk about milk, etc.
reminded me of my first job at 14 when I worked at Cow & Gate Milk
Depot in Greenford, right by the Western Avenue Roundabout. I was only a
Junior Clerk, but enjoyed the environment of the large stables at the
end of the cobbled yard where several horses were kept under the care of
one lady and two stable boys. A very large Scammell would arrive every
morning and all the milk
transferred to a huge refrigeration plant. Then all the roundsmen would
take their horses and carts out delivering to customers. I was only
there from 1945-46, but some electric floats had already been introduced
while I was working there. The men would go out in all weathers - fog
and snow, and they used to lay stuff on the cobbles sometimes so that
the horses wouldn't slip. I've often wondered whether the horses did
slip when the roads were icy. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2010
just saw photo in daily express
of postman recently wearing chains criss crossed under his shoes..said
to tony wish had studded shoe sole of some sort grip the ice..never been
car driver so lifetime walking and bus.milk we get once week now
supermarket and if car it goes in boot..most lasts week in fridge
etc...my local cousin husband milkman all his life and now well into his
60s...horses cows in
fields polish war memorial up from greenford flyer now.bridge hotel
roundabout below and trading estate .oldfield rd goes up there ... more >>
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by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 18-Jan-2010
When I were a lad we never had a
fridge, used to keep the bottles of milk in a bucket of water. Two of my
neighbours both worked for Daltons Farm Dairies, down Hayes End Road,
near the Heinz building. They worked there for years and were still
using horse-drawn even when I was young. I once asked one of them what
time he started work, he said I actually start at 4am but I have to get
in at 3 to catch the horse!
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Jan-2010
Yes Barry, we were exactly the
same. Didn't have a fridge and kept the milk in a lovely big stone
larder in a bucket of cold water covered with a wet cloth. Sometimes if
the milk became sour my mother would put it in a muslin bag which
dripped over the sink for what seemed an eternity, and eventually became
a cheese. It wasn't to everyone's taste, but it wasn't ever wasted.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Apr-2010
My fist job before I left
school was in Stowells off licence on north parade in the
late 50s the manager was George Barker who came from Brentford
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-May-2010
denis our member christine had
mum dad gdad north rd shop the shoe repairs...old photos of them and
inside shop on our board...mike braden member lived north rd many yrs
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-May-2010
Thanx Yvonne I remember the
boot repierer in North Rd, we also keept our milk in a bucket
under the kitchen sink.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2010
chris mum now 95 and very well
lots gt grandchildren....it was her dad and grandad that ran shop for so
many yrs,,,,did chain mail for alan ladd ivanhoe film made with ealing
films shepperton or local..they came to shop ask..them to make the
chainmail armour metal links...looks gt in film...upo castle used
cardiff butts castle elaborate lord butt payed for castle massive cost
out of poor coalminers yrs pits profits selling coal to ships cardiff 1800s etc ... more >>
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2nd flickr photos site......southallboard2
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jan-2010
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dear josie all...put 2 photos dormers on 1950..groups kids.country dance ,nativity..school
- Re: 2nd flickr photos site......southallboard2
by Ron Cox (Member 10234401) on 17-Jan-2010
Yvonne I have tried many times to
get the 2nd flickr site without success.Maybe a more detailed layout
required for those living in Ozz.
- Re: 2nd flickr photos site......southallboard2
by davo (Member 10030212) on 17-Jan-2010
I am having the same problem. Maybe there is a conspiracy going on against us downunder ha ha ha
- Re: 2nd flickr photos site......southallboard2
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 17-Jan-2010
Me too - I can't find the second site. HELP PLEASE, thanks.x
- Re: 2nd flickr photos site......southallboard2
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
2nd site....type in the left
top......www.flickr.com.............top right says sign in....click
it.............in ID
type..........southallboard2@yahoo.co.uk..........password.......so type
middlesex..........click sign in............then up comes photos says
photostream........let us know if successful.....look forward to all
your photos..kindest regards always..esecially OZ
- Re: 2nd flickr photos site......southallboard2
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 17-Jan-2010
Thanks again Yvonne - you are a star; especially on this site, what would we do without you.
Chris x
- Re: 2nd flickr photos site......southallboard2
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
thanks did you see both boards
photo now,,tony and I went round xmas took some photos...wait to receive
your ones now...will put on....says download click that and then so
your photo folder where saved ...highlight your photo...and click
insert.....keep having a go...everybody takes a while
- Re: 2nd flickr photos site......southallboard2
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
pauline cinema poster says 1954 a
ladd knight on our flickr now...your heart throb..read about his life
on google mth ago....several of the stars moved into hollywood from
other states all different backgrounds...if they had the looks and
those marvellous voices...buried the hollywood site photos stones
- Re: 2nd flickr photos site......southallboard2
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Jan-2010
Thanks Yvonne - just had a look
on Southallboard2 and then I had a quick look on Google but don't
remember the film "The Black Knight". Mind you, I got married in 1954
and I know my husband wasn't too keen on Alan Ladd. (Say no more)! My
friend Mauvine and I would probably have been drooling over him earlier
in our teens. I would think, however, that the famous sword which Barry
has inherited would be worth a lot.
- Re: 2nd flickr photos site......southallboard2
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
yes valuable..they have museums
in holywood stage set items costumes etc..debbie reynolds has j garlands
red sparkly shoes wizard oz..displays........titanic cameron....had all
set film pieces etc huge display wembly and actors performing etc whole
day there...amazing..costumes..kate winslett had several copies wet
dress for struggling down corridors and out on ice.....the magic of a
film but like see behind
scenes at bbc tv..saw all sets costumes..and props was below my library
they let us go look and huge painted backdrops.....joan full screen
then zoomed into her face..kind happy person..fair blonde flecks her
face..then her brother born 1914 my uncle fred was very blonde..placid
gorgeous bloke....shatters image of these much liked stars when read
hollywood blurb never mind fame has effect on people..liked the speaking
voice of ladd ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2010
tony just found on daily
mail......sequel fools horses next sun .bbc1..9pm..rock and chips..sorry
if that makes you hungry barry.......john sullivan written it...all
boys age 16.trigger boyce denzil .2hrs...del boys father .mum usherette
at cinema they called her marilyn munroe looks..freddie frog played by
tall nick lyndurst himself biological son of him
1988 to 1996 series..lovely jubbly plonker.....pauline
google says not one of ladds poor films said it was good..sure saw it
once tv leigh girl.and curtis in it...didnt he marry her had jamie leigh
curtis...curtis and his paintings on on tv chat last yr..some like it
hot munroe lemmon and him so good as girls..laugh all through clever ... more >>
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by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 17-Jan-2010
Pauline,wish I did still have
that sword,disappeared many moons ago, probably got broke. While on the
subject of uncle Jim's film prop hire business, they also supplied the
huge clock for 'Beat the Clock' on Sunday Night at the London Palladium
with Bruce Forsythe.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2010
thanks len excellent youtube film
knight ladd 15mins...was going be called lochinvar...ivanhoe and
camelot...castle vikings invade...ladd at blcksmith forge..making great
sword..sword fight group///plantagenat costumes ladds nice
horse...blonde ladd hair curles under a hair roll at neck..medieval
..music good..dr bubble youtube..no chain mail this bit..ladds brown
leather jerkin......
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by Hestonian (Member 10243893) on 18-Jan-2010
I've only just registered on the
message board. I really want to see some old Southall photos on flickr,
but for the life of me I don't know how to! (Yes, there's loads of new
Southall photos, but I don't want to look at them.)
Right, I read your instructions, but when I click "sign in" on flickr,
as I use BT Yahoo it seems to think I'm trying to log in as myself, and
asks me for my own password!
If I then try to log in on Yahoo as "another user" using
southallboard@yahoo.co.uk (or southall board2), then enter the password
of middlesex, it gets rejected as invalid. Got any suggestions, as I
don't know what to do? ... more >>
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by Hestonian (Member 10243893) on 18-Jan-2010
Managed to sort it, eventually, by using Internet Explorer and signing in there. Flippin' computers!
Had a browse of the photos, good old ones, and some of the newer ones make interesting comparison.
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by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 19-Jan-2010
My son has put a few pics of Southall on Facebook (are you an old face of Southall). Some of you might be interested.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jan-2010
thankyou dylis and son..they are
all so very good so many..some 1945 1950 and far back how marvellous of
you to kept so well,,you must get some people recognise all those
faces...len pauline everybody you must see,,,spikes park,new and Ve day
party,,my aunt sisrosewillans and uncle nobbygeorge ackers moved in your
new buildingphoto south ave gds shared masionette 1935 when new
built...nanada acres
charlesacres nobby .dolly moved in 16 west ave 1927 1st built..allendale
snow 1978 my gt aunt and ted there ackland rose..western rd 1890..my
gdad born.along from there then 1890 they all went new western school
and featherst..allemby wtower now flats..track we schools used spikes
and tennis..beehive good photo what date???1990 scotsman pub trip people
know faces??my gdad 1925 old oak trip 30 men on photo our flickr..1950
butlers shop..north parade shops..mike ..and post office..christine
have a look......thankyou....to you both.. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Jan-2010
Seeing that photo of Hanwell
Brent fields and the spire of the church really took me back. We had an
old pram which was used for transporting all sorts of things when it was
no longer used for wheeling babies about. I often took several of my
brothers and sisters to what we called "Hanwell Park" - now caled the
"Bunny Park". The older ones walked, while the youngest was in the pram.
We all walked from
Northcote Avenue through Dormers Wells, across the Greenford Road and
down several steps to the golf links and then on to the park. I had to
empty the pram of the youngest as it was a very bumpy ride. I remember
we used to get quite a few stares from people. We were equipped with
bottles of lemonade made with lemonade powder and a few sandwiches of
whatever was going. They were glorious days, the only hazard being
keeping an eye on the boys near the river. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jan-2010
have photos me age 3/4 bunny
pk...1950s you may have walked through prefabs estate..nice gardens we
had....ours prefab near entrance path greenford rd..hedges high as
through path..golf off one side...ahead leeeches at big tubes curved
bridge..some paddled in river stream there....tea icecream little
parlour still there...maze there now..wallabies etc...peacock...but
rabbits giant ones and ordinary
all colours....little monkeys...indoor little zoo charges,,,st mary
church spire..green grass hills...viaduct huge imposing...6 photos of
us.I have 1950 ish...thousands families 1930s to today spent time bunny
park... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jan-2010
1948 was it prefabs built of
1950..probably just field there before as walk through from
dormers.......dormers junior school had path up side went mill pond way
to greenford rd.and bunny pk......being eldest my younger cousins,,,had
to take them out while all washing copper etc work mother nan
doing....so twin pram and in the middle the 3rd sister .mad charlie
walked or ran off side,,,,I tote the kids as well pauline....so scared my responsibilty...my cousin accident swings etc...ha ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 20-Jan-2010
You have reminded me - when we
were kids in the '50s, that part of the Brent was notorious for leeches
(we called them bloodsuckers), but l can not remember ever seeing one!!
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by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 20-Jan-2010
We used to paddle in the Brent and often had leeches stuck on our legs,didn't bother us much though.
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by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 20-Jan-2010
Have put a few more photos on flickr.Some North Rd school class photos. Maybe some of you may recognise some people on them.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jan-2010
that is good of you
dilys....marvellous north rd school 1937 1944 1949..allendale 1955
beehive interior,,,,,,so lucky on our flickr really lovely thanks
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Jan-2010
I can't remember if there were
prefabs there or not, Yvonne. This would have been in 1941 in the summer
holidays. What I forgot to say was that on the way back we collected
frogs' spawn in the streams on the other side of the Greenford road
through to Dormers Wells. Then there were masses of tadpoles in an old
tin bath in our back garden. I think our cat was responsible for
catching some of the little frogs.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2010
thanks pauline 1941...must have
been still fields both sides greenford rd..with.golf east and mill pond
woods west side extending north up to white hart pub and cemetery
windmill lane..... open grass lane ..1948ish prefabs.they were nice then
gardens...built for men coming back from war marriage nowhere to
live..eastend bombed out,,,,,like you tadpoles.cat.tonys dad built pond
hounslow heath tadpoles.next
door last yr huge pond.11pm extrememly large one hopped in living rm
tony took ages catch it strong.back legs.long walk for you.carlisle
burns ave.way we all used to walk to dormers school,,see 2 amazing
photos dylis spikes on faces site.and spikes ve party also people ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 21-Jan-2010
Pauline and others. Pre and
during WW2 I did that walk from Dormers Wells Lane to Hanwellpark many
times. Just as one approached the Greenford Road,there was the Mill
Pond, with lots of water fowl, Sticklebacks and other fish.Mention of
the golf links reminds me of Mr FK Green, the History master at Southall
tech. He was a keen golfer, and golf balls were in short supply. He
offfered (I think) a shilling a time for any lost golf balls we found,. Once he added "you must be ethical-wait until the ball stops rolling!"
Wonder if we ever met each other there Pauline??? ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Jan-2010
Michael, I've often wondered the
same thing since I've been on this site whether any of us rubbed
shoulders in all the favourite places we used to congregate. That
Dormers Wells' woods were a particular favourite of ours. I remember
when we got our shoes and socks wet, we used to whack them on a tree and
hang them up to dry before we got home. This suggests that we had some
really hot summer days! Loved your master's remarks to let the ball stop rolling first!! ... more >>
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by davo (Member 10030212) on 22-Jan-2010
I found some video of Southall
that my father had transfered from the old 8mm cine film( spelling) . I
will have to get it converted to DVD so i can post it on Flickr . It was
taken about 1967 not long before we moved to Australia.
It has some of the pool at the Rec and of me marching down the streets
of Southall when i was in the J.T.C .( junior trainig corps )also some
of King street , Elmfield road and Featherstone road. Some of it is hard to see because of its age ,but for the most it is pretty good . ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2010
thanks davo..look forward to
it..southall rec built 1913 £1600..extended £4300 1931...120x 30
feet..3'..6'3" deep...my cousin charlie ackers there late 1950s.best
wishes you and dad s film
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2010
british film institute film of
southall pool..on google .we have site member whos relative was
superintendent there...history photos ruislip lido on google
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Jan-2010
I was having another look at Southallboard2 Page2
at the Advertisement of Twinings tea on the side wall of a house in
Northcote Avenue. Firstly, I wonder what year that would have been - or
thereabouts. I know my memories were only of the 1930's and can't quite
picture whether it was at the top of the road. There would have been
shops on the left-hand side of Northcote Avenue eventually, and there
was a wall going from the little shop (with the man in a green apron)
on the corner to the first house in the road. I remember walking on a
summer's evening with my mother and her telling me to listen to the
crickets in the wall chirping away. When I felt the wall it was quite
warm. Happy days! While I am talking about Northcote Avenue - does
anyone remember Charlie Howes' vegetable stall set up against the wall
further down from Mrs Pocock's stall on the corner? My brother used to
help him out occasionally. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Jan-2010
Quite by chance, I think I have
answered my own question about the Twinings poster. After I posted my
message, I was looking on google for Posters and came upon GHOST SIGNS
DRAFT CHAPTER FOOD AND DRINK. This shows the Twinings poster (on our
Southallboard2 site) as being in Bowater Street West Bromwich with
little Miss Barber on the front who was the front lady for a brand
called "Barber's for Teas"
which appears to have been taken over by Twinings at some point. Also,
the Fry's advertisement for concentrated Cocoa (also on our site) was in
Windmill Hill Bristol. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2010
glad you liked the old early part
20th century huge wall paintings adverts..tend to be on corner...tall
bare wall....many up north....len remembers bakery on west corner
northcote there so about 30s......the wall is now replastered over ..so
bet the painting still underneath....can see in photo taken 2005 roughly
that..the old ancient plaster falling away in advert cant see end of
crouch....so 2005 seems
replastered over it again....fashion still there 2005...on west
corner........1907 it advertises prize given to turug health bread have
written to livery london await reply.......award special...from
london.....google says white bread of victorians.turog gained
approval..workers to eat they felt energy food of wholemeal.whole wheat
nourishment.....crouch on west ealing..lists names kellys several around
but could not find ct crouch yet...baker and wedding cakes.....so about
1907 and onwards...fashion for huge wall paintings adverts..yes ghost
signs good and opie has museum london used to be gloucester
dock..warehouse full historic adverts packaging etc..glad to see that of
northcote maps show fields at most northcote area 1900 and uxbridge rd
along there...except few old houses 1870ish or so in northcote area... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2010
I took my photo of turog shop
museum off because nobody seemed interested last 2 wks,,st fagan museum
cardiff all peoples lives 100yrs and turnog was spillers cardiff.......
my nan used bread board and serated edge bread knife parkers bread for
decades..but saw her hold large tin loaf upwards length and slice top
and downwards in her hands.carving across top bread as she stood
there...bread jam as she worked ticklers jam..also dripping ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Jan-2010
Yvonne, I think we are talking at
cross purposes here. The Twinings advert on the wall is NOT in
Northcote Avenue, but in Bowater street West Bromwich. You can see
"Bowater street" on the sign underneath. The Fry's advert is NOT in the
Uxbridge road but in Windmill Hill Bristol. It clearly shows the photos
of both in the Site I mentioned.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2010
think try be quick because time
consume......the turog couch 2 photos northcote ave,,,others to show
like walls in other places,,,I was interested in all wall
paintings...comments section under photo s describe....lucky to have
the turog at southall..historic piece..hope to get reply from worshipful
bakers ,bakers hall london..london prize award it says sept 1907
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Jan-2010
Yvonne, I don't remember the
Baker's wall with Crouch on it, but that's why I remember smelling bread
when I was very young and why the wall was so warm when we walked past
it with the crickets chirping. Thanks for that - another nice memory.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jan-2010
yes of course the warm
wall....len too remembered bakers there 1930s etc..,,,,the plaster would
have been over painting for yrs probably..looks like they discovered it
2005 ish..when rerendering.and looked underneath..surely must still be
there under new plaster..again hope....may only be few of those wall
paintings left...having no comments on lloyds clifford evans etc put on
few days ago...thought
better take them off.thought people not interested....did not realise
says viewings had never had time to notice.that word.......all photos
100s viewings now in few days...36 for nroad primary ..21 viewings of
lloyds broadway etc etc.so no wonder less messages everybody busy
looking at photos instead.....photos always the visual more impact than
written word...so glad new yr gift great success......enlarge and also
zoom to full screen......best wishes.....that must been big bakery
behind that hot wall.can see air fan vents..unique memory you have to
confirm history of crouch..apparently wedding cakes as well....early
decades that begining east part of broadway must have been middle class
some fine people.with a fine bakery of awards etc........thanks best
wishes ... more >>
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