rough houses..thrown up quick bricklaying was not bricks thrown together at foundations..leased to a tallow candle maker to build row houses not an experienced builder at all.....2 families 11/6 week lodgers to help pay..only couple room places no kitchen..well outside tap outside loo.bathtub brought in hung up outside.....shrapnel childrens toys found ..doors locked so firefighters could not get in..but not enough to stop fires anyway...churchill said save st pauls before all else...took metal bits to farnborough to see how v2 rockets made..v1 doodle bug back flame drone then noise cut out..eastenders at end tv programme had sing song in pub ..blue moon....

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f it used by industrial firms....amen

mary catholic school northhyde.....manitoba canada morrning press says jan 10th 1908....1896 their sister lillie anxiously enquires ....says young immigrants canada baptised catholic st mary northhyde...

.......then who started the idea before 1857........trinitariuns bible society give away bibles..year1200 fontainbleu near paris king and pope favoured trinitarians and gave it to them..we visited it because it because versailles closed

450,000 kegs of powder. The site was purchased by the Roman Catholic Church in 1854 and converted it into an Orphanage for boys which was put under the charge of the Belgium Order of Brothers of Our Lady of Mercy. It was enlarged in the 1870's and in 1903 the institution passed into the hands of another order, The Sisters of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary. This order is still active and based in Chigwell, Essex. The home was a self-sufficient community with it's own farm and prize-winning band. Many boys served and were lost in both the Boer and First World Wars.

n syon hse mansion hse..trinitarian priory closed hounslow high st 1500s so dont know what happened to trinitarians after left syon....
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o was...so southall areas here..but the key page does not say what red line is the mauve line is borough hounslow boundary....will keep looking..interesting

odern southall postcode...wonder who takes their rubbish Ha

that came under believe it or not Staines Rural District !

..my aunt lived common to 1927 spoke of the nuns...so nuns gives the name to council to calling it convent way.......about 1930s..when nuns had been there before.......my gt aunt last of many children 12 and more.could not cope so put baby in nursery there 1900 boys orphanage to age 14..lived northfields park to 90 yrs hayes ...worked emi all her life annie west spinster

e 1790 threat invasion napolionic wars..northyde heston barracks ammunition storage..canal cuts there..widening canal for boat turning area..so convent way coming out of orphanage owned land follows their barrack row..the mounds of cuts in canal there..the old barracks docks cuts area were filled in...my aunt at the common kids played over there..over the mounds she said....keith the land was owned by army ammunition ordinance storage 1790 then sold to 1854s jesuits belgium order of mercy so called st marys catholic...barren land dangerous land gunpowder..so nobody else would have wanted..some brickmaking.but good market garden land further down rd cranford....so your trinitarians priory hounslow high st year1200 to 1540 then went to syon abbey monastery...holy trinity anglican church built on site still there......so dont think they medieval ever owned the old brickfield land army gunpowder land of northhyde by canal of old oak pub area.......holy trinity order of trinitarians...convent way st marys orphanage not holy trinity...it was st mary 1854 to 1950...jesuit belgium order of mercy fathers then later nuns sisters sacred heart jesus mary..now chigwell convent where they moved to....many different religious orders did orphanages etc england ...for the poor...owned land medieval to 18oos....industrial schools for poor children huge overcrowded poor families in the grim of the industrial areas..factories .brickfield ...army barracks building snatched bought up cheap by catholic 1854 belgiumjesuits to house pauper boys babies nurseries inside..hard labour worked the pigs and their farm there

for the labourers....by church people before education act.......nan went to church school 1895 next to heston church just opened by parish church that year...payed penny fine if she or brother did not attend...parish relief moneys etc was payed by middle class residents ....church goers to parish church..... to the working class labourers low wage in need..marriage certs etc x for signature could not read write 1800s..only work hard labour very young children..industrial schools being set up slowly.....louis henry was jesuit at st mary orphanage northhyde,,,,trinitarians were not jesuits..Belgiun jesuits bought old barracks and land from the army west northhyde canal ..convent way ..

empty land...top of southall lane...it was army gunpowder of napolionic war 1800 barracks building before convent orphans school took over the old brick buildings..///photo of front courtyard area in local history bk ealing library....so there is no building there to be haunted they bulldozed it after war

d on the back old piece brown paper with pencil handwriting to confirm by this girl was hers..so handed down family...carol sold it 150 pounds to woman with short dark hair holding up lot number 290....My southall cousin cracknell comes from canada every yr geneology gave video to him.......alice maud cracknell in same parish heston as southall lane northhyde orphanage heston parish..heston church she married in the church bk which I handled in london before they made us all use film...she married 1906.....so our cracknell was havelock rd 1900 to his death 1950s...if rickys rays father knew them.......some of the 1700s girls embrioderys sell for hundreds pounds elaborate......school sew exercise alphabet spellings and pictures in embroidery///especilly orphans work...italy school girls did much lace sew embroidery as lessons

lf norwood geen......so the a to z shows mauve boundary bor hounslow ..ub2 postcodes seem to take some of parishhestons land........
......but postcodes have ub2 in borough hounslow of northhyde was a huge area under heston church...so suppose they pay tax for rubbish collection to the borough and not ealing borough

parish heston....orphans had their own chapel there for catholic baptism....but graveyard would only been heston church

on hanger antique gathering 1990s carol sold our orphanage embroidery 150 pounds for her husband very ill holiday to south coast.the lot number was done at chiswick auction hse

rt, mostly unused except for some allotments.
Behind the Convent was a small orchand where we would go scrumping and generaly hang out during the summer holidays. A prety good place for kids to play, with two large mounds of earth to add to the fun. All along the length of Wentworth Rd there would be bonfires on Guy Fawkes night.
Shortly after the war the whole neighbourhood stood to watch one of the first jet fighters, the DH Vampire land at Heston Airport. the first time any of us had seen a jet aircraft.
Later the area became a gravel pit.

large memorial full of names in 1952...it was found to be gone...site reduced to rubble....wentworth fairly new rd....the orphange diagram by inmate has barrack way along south wall of orphanage going east across old army gunpowder ordinance storage of area of 1800s....this old track looks like new convent way presume named by council when houses built there..what 1940s...it is same ragged type shaped way following around the old docks as army old barrack way.....your newer wentworth built straight along straight later.....do you know anything of it all john...1958 ba pulled down old north star pub and 9 cottages 1800 to 1958 northstar row brickies labourers dwelling..number 10 was a general shop and sweets...gdad brother hackers ran it 1920s....gdad family in no 5 george akers.to 1958 and barrys family many yrs there...do you know of it john.....thanks

....farm they dealt with cows moving there.....tall large statue jesus in north front area....because original jesuits society of jesus..order of brothers......

w BA bought and built workers houses there to join ringway houses for BA workers......row of houses that lay far back off rd there green grass along front...old brick kilns pile bricks onto canal..canal spur....sem to have built houses far back off rd 1940 ish...so flat grass area ....?.....up to old oak pub bridge

heathrow...as we know check in area etc started off in tents....your wentworth was it built 1944 ish...convent way was it built just before perhaps...presume convent way named by council or by BA naming it...southall postcodes but borough hounslow..how did you manage that...hounslow council collecting rubbish perhaps

hould have been kept bor hounslow added to heston cenotaph opposite church northhyde was parish heston..as whole area orphanage to southall lane previosly tently tentlow lane now southall lane was all northhyde parish heston....but disgusting these 26 and titles boys names not added to heston cenotaph..think read heston was payed for by residents but upkeep now is cost to borough hounslow...sea scouts 1950 ish council perhaps owned it allowed their use....old photo front southall lane courtyard shape delelict buildings in local history bk ealing library.have told memorials dept of england about this

e enquires after them anxiously

ranford park? Anyone know anything about that?
I lived in North Road on the corner opposite North Parade, remember Brockhouse newsagents? Went to North Road school 1956 -1962, then Southall Grammar until 1967. I remember visiting a friends house in Mount Avenue on the left as you go up the street, trying to remember his name. My father was born in Southall in 1921 , lived near Tudor Road with four brothers, they then moved to North Road where he stayed until he died in 1995, I myself live there until 1979. Anyone else remember the plane crash in 1958-ish? I remember the explosion waking me up.

y mother before that since 1955- ish. Demolished 1969, and sightings continued.I don't remember anything making the local paper. I can't rember any war memorial there.Steve who stated this thread, i'm trying to remember you. What department were you in? International Aeradio started there early 50's.

irms..as you say chapel till 1969.demolished priest there...was it all gone then........inmate has given us diagram....3 old chapels there 1935 inside building with rooms..and along south bottom edge building ...barrack row going east...so convent way would be going along there...site member had orchard over back...expect wentworth rd was built after convent way expect......at one time 600 boys there from islington etc ..1800s middx went right across some london areas..pauper boys....baptised catholic in chapel....babies there was nursery there.in diagram..to 12...14 yrs...later were females as well....part of education drive so school...I have bible given to one...cows pigs self sufficient there farm..stretched down southall lane...was called tentlow lane once......catholic society yesterday email said they have never found out what happened to memorial...I have said to them 26 names they should pay to have them put on nearby heston memorial.......thanks smile at your hauntings..yes several activities aeradio..over the yrs and priinting....on flight journal on google 1950s 1960 s aeradio..thanks happy xmas new yr .hope you enjoy site..

....all went western rd school and featherstone by rec .southall pool.......meant to say 3 orphan boys details of medals,,to go on cenotaph when catholics pay for replace of their neglected lost one..was old army barracks then catholic orphans then derelict bought by BA or aeradio..but who allowed memorial to be rubble...large tall stone elaborate memorial..hounsl ealing council know nothing and not doing anything

rk of the machine guns, which were dismantled after the war,but gave us kids plenty of fun.
Regards John

ed ba heathrow...1940s you probably heard of fly fortress crash...turning well near you at 202 northhyde bridge oppposite old oak pub...will put photo of 1920 charabanc outing 1926 all grandfathers regulars on it..enlarge full screen see if you know anybody...look common..photos on our flickr..best wish..featherstone boys scholars...war names in front western rd near you were

irey.....crane lodge dwelling had retired farmer..albion lodge had retired publican..brickfield dwelling had my gtgdad acers...hope cottage had policeman...then 1881 it says canteen........josie site member says her uncle remembers old hut wood perhaps place pub.........the militia canteen shows on google as uxbridge hillingdon off cowley rd.....on google map street camera going along 2005 it is pink emulsioned....northhyde bridge 202 at turning well old oak pub.had bridge hse on it victorian brichfield manager john reed 1881...demolished xmas 2009...took photos of it 2005..derelict for about 20 more yrs...the bridge had antique notice on it iron 200yrs old in my photo..31 dec 09 .it disapeared new red brick showing under rust must be easy leaver off,,should be at waterw museum...said grand junction no ponderous too heavy locomotive vehicles .tractor engines 1800s...was used then as dirt track only rd there was went along common to western rd track...horse carts only carry farm or bricks......any info more please.in general

hool. My mother used to work at the dreaded tube Factory. A friend of mine Mick Harker used to live at Canteen Cottages next to the old barracks, then being used as a chewing gum factory. The gum was pretty awful even to us kids. Used to play on the mounds and make camps with my brother and sister and the vast hordes of children that were then around (no TV no contraception no abortion). Interesting that some correspondents were talking about Donovans; Charlie Donovan used to live just down the road from us. We used to set light to the fields quite regularly; children really are appalling but we enjoyed it. Used to fish for newts and sticklebacks and make rafts on the gravel pits; catapults, air rifles and gunpowder bombs. I remember the building of International Aeradio; they bulldozed the lot including the 10 conker trees that the convent planted to feed their draught animals; no more conkers. I could go on and on but if anybody wants any more info (and I’ve got a lot) please feel free to post.

tph197@zepler.net

ry e bedfont.he walked across open land 1930s to coach horses pub till 1961 in front of aerial hotel busy bath rd coaches 1700s etc

s old little entrance cabin office there has gone this year..still men at gates with guns on guard..used to be so alert for IRA.now terrorism spies in general..lots plane spotters every yr many yrs

how nice it WAS keep coming back. As l said on another thread a few weeks ago, nobody had much - but everyone was happier

ens flight now so she goes down west end rd ruislip rd......airport on west left side...huge gates rds into it now..used to only be little tiny narrow entrance hut.....but they hold the big guns up all day on security duty..loads plane spotters....but the crash onto western ave A40...went through the fence straight onto the main duel carriageway which goes into motorway now M40.......everybody remembers hoover art deco front and building..further along..but tesco now..listed building so they have kept deco front.....radio solent we have on when down that way....2 dormers wells class mates live down there at new forest....friends reunite schools good free membership on google..best wishes..good weather summers down there.we liked new forest big show...etc etc and titanic maritime museum southampton very interesting...

..enter 50 yrs between 2 crashes.....dec 1946 dakota and the one told you all of 1996 learjet 25 B...the man in white van had to be cut out by fireman on A40 when plane landed on road..but ok only bruises......starting to put good photos on flickr.com....southallboard@yahoo.com......password middlesex.....just press the enter key or click sign in...photos enlarge full screen....easy anybody to enter photos local history etc ...best wishes this weather down south..all best for xmas new yr.from yvonne tony

down station approach to northolt airp..northolt s ruislip tube...now has british rail to marylebone aylesbury denham.....princes risborough.where some of my family came from early 1800s......a40 goes into M40 to birmingham..small world now to get to NEC and join M6 for lake district etc..overlapping your old A40 entrance area now is a towering glass architecture modern tube of new hillingdon station piccadily line...the 1920 catholic nuns had nunnery harrow hill exquisite chapel.just had great college concert there ..orchestra.song..full house was just so very good carols.mull wine mince pies...but the chapel flowers lit...crib..new medieval bright reds greens gold art in the roof was splendid.and alter stained glass....

es for tour...was good down bunker operations room..churchill went down there see ladies move sticks plot movements centre huge table... and huge wall boards you see in films..flashing on different air fields coordination....schools go in on tours...churchills bunker off st james park london..fascinating war rooms his bed and red US hot line phone..etc etc all there lots.....raf local pilot writes childrens books local man he visits schools gives hr talk..and if child is not paying attention he ..calls to him to focus..as military traing he has ..nice family man author

ramic hot water bottle..I used to fill chemist rubber bottle boiling squash over top get air out screw down and wrap cloth for few minutes while too hot..but very nice...clothes wood horse mangle..galvinise bucket and bath old LP player black easily drop break LP record..black line round bath.arp warden metal helmets..both raid shelters

e road from the wall!

rea marked..black horses glass coach hearse down middle high st..saw wedding on farm waggon white rural dress all covered flowers drawn by farm horses came down high st 2008

ig old Rover cars, white. A friend of our family worked for North Thames Gas, and I remember him telling us he went to Sid's house once to check his system, only intended to be half hour job, he ended up being offered a drink by the pool, and spent about two hours chatting, he said he was one of the nicest chaps he had ever met.

n Cowley, so we were up and down that road for many years until we moved from Langley.

r but think they used tank elsewhere..whistle down wind 1964 ..tiger bay..town like alice..black narcisus..imortance being ernest .genevive.more recently queen victoria

director chair..her great big edwardian car...staircase...so clever it was all there to brouse..1912 my dads brother was born..southampton we have popped in several times see displays museum

e 1..... 2 kids and father age 43 buried in church yard...shame family.1895 deaths.....northhyde opposite old oak pub across canal 3 sheds ..winding well...bridge 1900

e 1..... 2 kids and father age 43 buried in church yard...shame family.1895 deaths.....northhyde opposite old oak pub across canal 3 sheds ..winding well...bridge 1900

hows thick trees there by oak bridge..if bridge hse next to it..which is derelict now...but big sheds along canal grass look like pile of light colour tubs..wonder if they were fish tubs ..my aunt lived opposite age 9 they helped scrub things help men working along there at turning well....wolf pub and bridge would be in the distance..one white cottage in far distance on left..where norwood rd would be coming across

in golfcourse..caught fire 1976....widening canal there..well it was the turning point for bargees.....docks there going back to army ammunition storage napolionic wars...postcard shows 1900 children going to school in smocks to western rd and featherstone rd school.couple photos exsist at common there.....says old nissen type wartime sheds of many yrs old heston airport area ..wonder if they the canteen 1900s...canteen beerhse was at south west corner of airport area ....1881 on census for brickies and market gardeners...near junction with cranford lane..my gt gdad lived next door to it

were family related. Will send you some copies Yvonne if you are interested.

eight months on 31 July 1968. They gave most of the remaining stock away.

now...paul singing hey jude recently several times he comes on now with the finale anthemn all join in.....great lads.....

i answered his fan mail at her desk there...moved out when he was 23....lately have heard ringos home in very poorest area has plaque or is open

ches also done by late lesley crowther and roy castle.bernie winters.peter glaze of crackerjack.......any old iron played with the 2 spoons clap at knee tune..one in my family could do it and comb tissue.or jews harp at teeth tune..several worked at emi so we had LPs musicals and sing alongs max bygraves des oconner.frank ifield .bert weedon guitar

ple dont read or have time to that no script witers today...david lean..great...and coward in which we serve..HMS torrin..mountbatten the hood...young john mills of denham with his lovely family.....we read cruel sea for GCE O level dormers.d squires my class said nicholas monsarret the author was her uncle......great actors reallife experiences story.baxter.and his cruelty sausages..compass rose sank..north sea convoys war...think the thick oil ..tanks of sinkings again at our local water tank studios

Gerrards Cross - I remember the crate of beer which went on, and someone felll off the back, fortunately on the grass!!

t copy photo.which I have.....gdad lived next door and born next door to old north star just down rd a bit at canal bridgethere.....flap of canvas over charabang...to go southend..men fancy hats easter bonnets joke..flower in lapel..uncle george every sunday lunch pub wore his garden flower in lapel

ge 2 party frock was sat on it .excited relatives friends admire new baby she fell off.fair bit blood..ok went greenford manager..been top manager nestles many yrs travels abroad for them.even though cut head

te for a song " She sits among the cabbages and peas---!". To please them, she modified it to " She sits among the cabbages and leeks!!"
If anyone wants any of these in more detail, please let me know.(Michaelprf@aol.com)

me to london....theatre workshop for young people...so much diplayed..it is all owned by v and a...but not seen them display it again yet...looks like no chance reopen covent garden..builders are in now..that was perfect place for tourists and visitors...drury lane does back stage tours etc..we have done couple sing songs at couple dos we went to recently...one was an irish do so they like a get together like that....gdad family from southall went to music hall shepherds bush old theatre...tony and I went in it to see comedy show of bbc who took it on...bawdy ..creude ....but then also shakespeares splendid globe was bawdy of late 1500s etc ..great blue guide walk along there of the noisy audience crowds and throwing nuts oranges tomatoes etc.saw romeo j there last yr was unique for us to have the authentic..gorgeous

so interesting place...plane spotters many yrs perimeter....little private jets use it...when they dont run off runway into western ave A40.......rush hr van was going along but nobody hurt when 3 people in jet through fence and onto A40

seen the pearlies..my aunt used to have button box mother pearl buttons etc.....need many blue plaques along soho.and music hall places.covent gdn etc..2 Is coffee bar needs plaque like liverpool has cavern...beginning english rock roll..cliff did last live perform shadows yesterday tv..shake it...and rock roll..and singing the blues/they are on 50yrs celebration tour....well upright piano in middle norwood green july 2010 or in plough pub for sing song..hardly likely ...Ha......cookooites do reunion every sept.they are selling their dvd film of their drinks gathering and sing song.in community centre hanwell hall something....of hanwell local history friends reunite people 1930s to 1970

y lane and also southbank nat theatre couple yrs ago ..but nice dennis waterman but not quite as good cockny dustman....saw covent gdn just before it changed into tourist cafe bars ..was good as veg fruit flowers..and flower hall is from old green to wonderful white ancient glass hall..now by opera hse ..free entry...great carol concerts xmas by covent gdn singers etc...huge grand piano shines black....wonderful area sit etc.and opera archives and costumes surrounds

ties we did the "Can-can" in a "Twenties" show. I remember my husband helping me to machine the sequined knickers for the "Can can" and he accidentally sewed the legs up! We also took our shows out to the local hospitals and old folks homes. They were wonderful days.

theatre hayes..medal winners..all of middlesex performers ..choir..dance..classical music award winners.....young peoples arts and dance song..it was great...drinks out in grounds lake plants at interval...gt pantos there..what else did you do at group...greenford ruislip etc etc all have the musicals etc by amateur productions every yr..in the halls theatres

ad diggers hole...we played LPs sunday mornings..and next door worked at rank locally .so he got me sound track of sound of music early.had spool play and tape recorder grundig for birth xmas present..free top 20 on sunday pm radio gram recorded every week

s.it is known as their church...names on ground as los angeles chinese theatre..handprints etc london.and around church inner walls tributes..st martin in fields trafalgar sq they tend to go memorial services..just this year it has reopened beautifully refurbished ...new part etc

ng etc....make up and costume helpers are always useful...lovely theatre at high wycombe went once......my friend has been doing very small theatre well over 20yrs..goes on stage herself if a drop out..she has been producing directing several yrs now...doreen venables had the dance school by town hall southall.age 3 upwards...productions at southall community centre

hen added the fringes. They looked fantastic. They were some of the happiest days of our lives, and we all remained good friends although living miles apart. I will ask my sister about the sewing machines she used whilst at Dormers.

itted everything all their lives...sister knitted fairil that very complicated..her sons lovely jumpers for school and southall tech...nobody ever seemed to put knitting needles down..all designs...I did a little bit couple cardigans......wool she used to get down southall..I had to hold long scains of wool..while they wound off into balls

er joins puts comment but rare to see it unfortunately...I remember loads teachers names infants to 6th form....

,also Quakers Oats was a margarine factory my brother worked there such a awkward place to get to.

ugh the barbed wire around the airport, one day, and was "rewarded" by a friendly pilot helping him to clamber up to look inside a Spitfire!

david mike ricky.....my gtaunts family he worked there 40 yrs to retirement..1900s...he lived havelock rd all married life..came in from chiswick policeman from his essex birth..buried 3 his family havelock...looking forward to seeing local hist dept southall libray...go on bus dry day..seen it on google maps and the rd..southall norwood library lovely victorian lettering above door..thanks ricky and lads info

and..quaint proper..and all the good acting of our 1940s actors..america see this as social history how the english are

to come from miles around. We used to get into the cockpits, and take out morse code tappers, bomb sites, headphones and all sorts of stuff. Unfortunately I believe oiur parents handed all the stuff back in at the end of the war. That Queen Mary used to take up about a quarter of Marlborough Road. He came round with Junkers 88s, Mescher Schmitz, Spitfires, Mosquitos, Hurricanes and all sorts.

mystery....he went all the boac sports days there 50s

lyle Avenue, Lady Margaret Road and King Street, with a Sunday extension to Hayes Station via North Hyde Road. In 1958 it was extended daily to Hayes, replacing part of withdrawn route 83. In 1959 it was extended during Monday to Friday peak hours to Hayes North via Church Road and Lansbury Drive. In 1965 it was withdrawn completely between Hayes and Hayes North, being replaced by new route 195, and withdrawn between Southall and Hayes except for Sunday and Monday to Friday peak hours; however, just a year later it was extended on Saturdays from Southall to Hayes North Station, replacing route 195. In 1967 the Saturday service was extended from Hayes North to Charville Lane Estate, and a year later the Monday to Friday service was similarly extended, replacing the 195 on those days. Later that year Monday to Friday rush hour journeys were diverted from Brent Road to Arrow Switches Factory. In 1971 Monday to Saturday service was withdrawn between Southall (Brent Road) and Charville Lane Estate, and Sunday service was withdrawn beyond Southall (Town Hall), all replaced by a reintroduced route 195. In 1973 it was diverted at Southall (Western Road) to run to Heathrow Central via Cranford Lane, Cranford and Harlington Corner. At the same time the Arrow Switches journeys were withdrawn. In 1975 the route was split, with some Monday to Saturday journeys terminating at Southall (Havelock Estate). In 1982 the Shepherd’s Bush terminal was changed from Wells Road to Caxton Road, and the Monday to Saturday service was split into two sections: Shepherd’s Bush–Southall and Greenford Station–Heathrow. In 1983 it was converted to one-person-operation, and in 1984 diverted in the Dormers Wells Lane area, now running between Allenby Road and Southall via Dormers Wells Lane, Burns Avenue and Lady Margaret Road. In 1986 the route was extended from Heathrow Central via the Cargo Tunnel to Heathrow (Terminal 4). In 1988 the Havelock Estate service was withdrawn, replaced by new route E5. At the same time the Greenford terminal was moved from Greenford Station to Greenford (Red

said too far..but we waited all hours for work at stop ..no other way get to work...wrote 10pages of letters..all weathers daily winter summer for work

en they complained for over 14yrs but e2 changed to e7 from ealing broadway and the frozen pensioners and workers at bus stops for hrs get essential service now to ruislip...yrs of expensive bus fares payed for misery hrs at bus stops out of tiny parttime wages

ge pop groups they covered bedroom wall with..black felt pen they painted back beetle on school bags etc..cover your exercise book wallpaper and graffiti they draw beetles over covers

emember seeing the Walls factory on fire due to a gas explosion in the 1980's.

es delayed etc) when a goods train needed to cross the road to get into factory sidings there even on Saturdays. Does anyone know what factory this would have been?

rked at the B.E.T. I have some info on the shunting engine somewhere will dig it out and post it shortly.

.C. Wakefield (Castrol) The Gramaphone Co. originally had a four-coupled steam Loco which was built before 1909 and supplied in 1917 This was named 'The Nipper' after their logo It was replaced in 1920 by a similiar loco known as 'The Master' i.e His Masters Voice. Wakefields had a 1939 built four-wheel diesel, The B.E.T did not have their own engine and a GWR Pannier Tank (0-6-0 PT) often shunted their siding. On the other side of Bournes Bridge were further sidings leading to McAlpines Depot and the Royal Ordnance Factory.

ere furious at getting caught. Those are what really interested me. Thank you for the info

is eldest son nickname knocker all his life died about 1940..knocker was the boy .knock bottoms out of tubs that held pottery for kiln..over by canal..rare pricelesss stuff now americans etc .fountain in manor hse grounds was theres in pitzanger museum ealing broadway...

white meat dish.they had welsh dresser in old cottage.pottery ceramic plates displayed all married life 1881 to 1937

there 1881 then 1881 married my gt aunt.mary wallbanks meads there first baby 1882 died age 95 born burslem potteries 1850 ...1869 enlist 10yrs india

on the canal. He said loads of very interesting broken item were always turning up by canalbank at Havelock Road

bottom comes out to make empty kiln for next lot of firing.keep telling dad an d family memories.we are getting together orwood green fete july.pitzhanger museum martinware also open you could visit it.have been twice ..good

originally a soap factory and the Martin Brothers then took over the building. Fine examples of the pottery can be viewed at Southall Library in the Martinware room. Southall Library is Osterley Road Southall. Martinware pottery does go for a lot of money and is very very valuable. One of the Martin brothers - im not sure which one, is buried in the cemetery on Havelock Road opposite the Sikh Temple.

s vandelised there ...but pitzanger have it in glass looks ok.thanks info ricky

5 to 1910 few yrs about then

rt ..wallace walter edwin..

ying lime juice for Rose's. I think they were the last two "traffics" north of Hayes, the final co;;apse of "lighterage" came very quickly after the M1 opened and lorries were allowed to be bigger.

ir there used for canoe sport today....river crane freys 3 rivers stockley lakes denham lock...I grew up canal spikes bridge

uth at thames central london

ven the railways lost out to it. That is why the once busy Southall - Brentford Docks freight line closed soon afterwards and now only has rubbish trains to the depot on the Great West Road

ays lived in the area even before Havelock estate was built and he remembers the dog track where the Havelock School now stands.

acquire the figures but they were told where to go by the people who look after Manor House (Ray and his team). An amazing (but haunted) building.

to see the back manor house items you speak of... wish there were photos some where..history southall on google..elizabeth 1st etc...1950s we had holiday day out walk around equisite rose gardens.lots flowers .avery..and side little gate on right inside grounds to put flowers on nans grave,,cut grass with scissors water can there for stone vases on grave...keep your info coming ricky ..good...I got off bus 1990 to scared to go in my manor hse park because of lay abouts etc...got back o bus quick for home and cup tea.....always has been a health centre over back connected to st bernards..

tates on farm lands of north southall our nans saw it happen...

aying 1970..nobby he spoke fondly of building up ruislip gdns..and ickenham and everywhere..have photo gdad leaning on shovel with rt warren wincot new house half built 1920s..have photo think lady jersey 1914 war effort with nan and her family etc leaning on forks food farm work keep fed 1st w war .cranford lane.....can send you 2 photos.or on friends reunite dormers school site we do not have to broadcast email it is private

much to put on here).regards Josie..(Plane cash approx 1936).

o southall green again..tried 1990 ran away at manor hse HA..will have to meet up with somebody there to find courage of southall library manor grounds..nans grave corner so near there at beginning area..have photo of it..went 1970s....lots love josie and uncle...yvonne tony

tly....with row of alfa cottages.....all northhyde under parish heston...all brickfields behind them on what became heston airport...yes so this became southall lane and convent school.2 of mine in there orphanage 1900s...tell uncle all so pleased see only rare unique photo canteen..I have scanner can put my photos to you on line to your computer...email is private on dormers school reunite..lots love my dears to you both

gardeners used to be there opposite...gtnan betsy walker lived as she got married 1873..lived high st cranford along there..market gardeners.but she 14 to 21 marriage she working with brickmakers..as they all continued to till her death 1923 north star cottage..brickies money payed at their pub old n star..by canal old oak..gdad photo hung beside bar 1920s to I saw it 1970s.charabang trip 30 locals..north star cottages brickmakers pulled down when uncle george akers moved out and died late 1950s..ba wanted build their employees houses there.but did not get there heathrow next door at now golflinks

church opposite..says has pubgarden so that nice july..have some old photos before 1900

House and those remarkable figures i mentioned before in the original stonework. There is a team of people in there who will be happy to show you around, also, on the grounds there is Bay Leaf tree - the only one in Southall so you can grab a load of fresh Bay Leaves whilst you are there.

ey played at the Palace cinema.

uthampton to arrange a visit by a select few to the site which was absolutely immese, their findings were from various periods including Iron Age/Bronze Age and Roman, many artefacts and cremations, described as one of the largest sites in Middlesex. We had two visits one in Jan. 2006 and the other in June. Have everal photos if you are interested. What was also interesting was that during the War both Cranford Park and the neighbouring field i.e. the above site had massive concrete stauntions zig-zagged across chained together to prevent glider landings which we had seen from aeriel photos taken by the Luftwaffe and captured after the War. The lower remains of some of these were also discovered.

agree with Yvonne, after much research we think it was vandalised and simply bulldozed away. We know that it was there up until just before the War.

r if that is the girls convent...boys at st mary but google said 1900s they did take few girls..by marriage....my gt aunt annie west born 1900..worked emI all life ..was there 14 yrs .baby she last born huge west family northhyde could not cope.couple of them went in st mary orphanage..knew annie well spinster

..gases...oozed out and dogs eating it all........syon had always been catholic monastery northumberland family the duke catholics...said it was because henry burnt down catholic priests and the monasteries..their revenge..excommunicated did he get his eternal life brought up catholic by his very loving mother and sister..he worried about his soul.reformation

s both sides,,my family there both sides...all married baptised buried heston church....osterley is great of jersey....been often all my life...we lived wheatlands..walk the back fields footpath into side of mansion....famous favourite good quality wheat that queen eliz said ..so old heston farm turned into town houses of new wheatlands crescent.behind the church..my nans brother on 1st w war memorial in road triangle

ard 6th....also head of charles 1st

distraction as they put sandbags around the hospital.

g to make an emergency landing in Jubilee park but crashed in to houses on Kelvin Gardens near to jubilee park killing a few people. Does anyone remember this incident?

rail sidings and branch of canal..later unilever .used by walls 1961.......maypole also name....

ngs loading bays ..special train daily milk from west country....1925....private road from the green..church avenue......says 1893 acres land bought from earl jersey etc...wooden bridge there..300000pounds contract with hanson for contruct..earl jersey and otto foundation stone and grand opening

o norwood green tentlow was originallyduncot rd.......and there was wincot farm along there..have photo gdad and rtwarren at gate half built new hse wincot they building it there...norwood rd heston rd...all slightly adapting names 1800s 1900s as yrs go by...northcote avenue area has original names on british history on line site..spellings change over the long yrs

uthall manor hse then...left side manor hse grounds many yrs clinic medical patients linked st bernards..over by southall library side..aviary birds used to be...2000 google map van camera shows some flower beds in front by war memorial but layabout asleep on grass entrance area there...says southall could not afford to put names on memorial yet southall had more factory industry wealth than near hard up villages but they have names carved 1st 2nd w war..oates has booklet list names instead at library..featherstone sch had their boys names carved.still there at move site....wonder how long side little gate into cemetery has been closed better if vandal park grounds sleeping rough kept out cemetery..but it was a
our short cut to tap watercan put flowers..so near after stroll through pretty flower beds manor gardens

ths knowledge of historic medieval type wall paintings...the art creativity of bargees famous..not chance regular school...moving but art music probably became more distinct for their type of life

kindgton on thames can get there...the 2 local areas of bequeths were given by loving devotees..they knew martin 1900s and on death gave their collections 200 or so to museums...too much publicity on tv etc and they broke into vunerable old windows ancient pitzanger hse.council cost a lot for top security..be better at v and a kensington london..higher security most people view easily..my 2 relatives worked for martin 1900s

l to view and enjoy there

in library as well...

unitions then emi till retire lived northfieldpark cul de sac at junction hayes main rd.lodged with work collegue all life rose cathy slater..annie west

couple pennies to help nans food rent money...brickmakers down from bridge there to nearby what was the old north star... side of heston airport land...

700s. He reported these so the museum could photo etc but his bosses at the Waterways told him not to waste time, and he was told to paint over and destroy them!! (This was in the 1960s or early 1970s)

operational yard and commercial units. New Car Park for moorers to be completed first commencing with the clearance of the site on Monday 25th Nov. 2]Planning Application;-Rebuilding and extension of cottage No. 3 with change of use for British Waterways operational facility (involving demolition of cottages Nos 2 & 3) erection of 6 small industrial units, erection of two-storey side and rear extension, front porch extension and change of use from residential to commercial of existing Toll House, erection of new garage and formation of new mooring car park. I don't know happened, but nothing has transpired, I even wrote to their office at the Top Lock but no one replied. If you are interested I went over at the time and took several close up shots, if you let me know I can send them to you.

ney would have traded there 1800s and more....my aunt had it busy there 1914 and her grandparents there 1800s all busy

born there to 1925 2/6 week rent..kellys 1914 has list neighbours knew well ....ayres next door.jewell.chidley.luck.jellyman...wingrove and bertha lloyd...lived in cottages next to pub..mygdad on photo..landlord and crowd 30 locals charabang to southend 1925 outside pub.do you know when mt pleas built.now a block of flats..suspect they were navvies dwellings who cut the canal about 1780s...the winding hole just there turn boats...mounds of the old munitions storage

ay". lf only he could have seen into the future.

over and destroy them!! (This was in the 1960s or v early 1970s)"<< l have been tearing my hair out trying to remeber where this cottage was. His patch of canal ran from Brentford all the way to Harefield, so it could have been anywhere on that section. All l can remember was that it was a lockkeepers cottage painted white right onthe towpath. He rarely had to go north of W Drayton, so l do think this was in the Southall/Norwood area.

cture northhyde bridge old oak with white canal side cottage right by east side of bridge..he was good to mention museum..

ce survey measurement invented..monument there....napolionic wars magazine amunition storage heath...country tracks heath ..like looking old maps empty spaces tracks ancient footpaths..aunt grew up 1914..out all day overcrowded old cottages kids played over mounds short cuts to relatives just across open fields barns..18..20 yr old used to get married met other labourers..plenty outdoor life..7 kids darby joan together.....plenty stress poverty .rows...but devoted to each other ..no money for anything else..looked after each other to end..self sufficiency....family had to be.... 1st w war the men were devoted to mums and wives etc...non marriage,divorce and money world etc etc causes severe troubles

rers cottages on the land..apples cox bramley or something created....lavender laburnam cottages .worked quarrys age 14 6am to dark ,on land which much later heathrow airport..heathrow hall was there..peggy bedford..aerial hotel was called somethiing else his dad went across open land to rd along there.cranford linked up with them.my cranford relative met local girl of east bedfont across open fields market garden work 1889/lived to old age all buried heston church... lots grandchildren

abourers 1900 family mine ended up staines continue work as river goes

alisbury Plain - Sharvil - Charville around the heights of north London then off to East Anglia perhaps its even Iron or Bronze Age Road

ange..in green belt along wesern ave A40.....3 connicle high hills along side western ave now northolt side between target area..puffed out when climb to top..man made park new

route left -but study of some maps shows it clearly though much is missing

holes of decay falling down.... everybody wishes dealt with..only place left bad massive number yrs..rest is so very good..nice

and bus..social club as kids saw ice show.clowns etc at arena....even heston airport hanger dad tickets magic show jellies kids social club event..all best

ned up the shop in Regina Road Southall. He also told me that the jazz singer Cleo Laine was born in the property above the shop but I have also read that she was from Clarence Street in Southall. This shop is great and is certainly part of Southalls history, well worth a visit. Also the instuments were hired from this shop for the film The Lady killers - Was this filmed at Southall Studios??

still had the pig farm, and when an old Victorian rubbish tip was discovered many people came to dig for bottles and china there. Various film and TV companies used the area a lot for filming, but more rarely now. It is normally a very quiet spot these days, especially since British Waterways erected posts to stop cars driving past the houses and along the canal, which is a blessing. There were one or two fatalities when youngsters thought they could speed along and ended up in the canal. We still get a few "problems" from time to time - a submerged car which means that all the rescue services are called out, or drug dealers thinking it might be a quiet spot for them (they found out to their cost that was a mistake!) Generally it is a quiet haven and we have always been very happy here.

und there. I was surprised to see the old house feature in the Uxbridge Gazette a couple of weeks ago, I didn;t think it would still be standing.