Montague Road by pat walden (Member 10236204) on 24-Oct-2009
Does anyone remember Margaret Goddard who lived at the Norwood Road End of Montague Road. She was a good friend and we lost touch after she married someone called Chambers and moved to Hillingdon. Thanks. Pat Walden   
  • Re: Montague Road by lisa ashcroft (Member 10242089) on 3-Nov-2009
    I think I can help you. Also known as peggy. She grew up in Southall living on Montague rd with her Mum, dad and brother. Her maiden name was Goddard and married Chambers. She worked at the AEC.
    In short I think you are looking for my Mum.

  • Re: Montague Road by lisa ashcroft (Member 10242089) on 13-Nov-2009
    Pat, I have been told that Mum had a school friend called Pat. Could this be you? She too tried to trace you. Hoping that you see this and reply. Best wishes

  • Re: Montague Road by pat walden (Member 10236204) on 23-Nov-2009
    Just read these answers and am delighted to hear about Margaret. I remember her so well - even her birthday on 14th Nov I think. Mine is on the llth and I think of her every year. She moved to Corwell Lane I think. I live near Reading, actually just south of the M4 at junction 11. Would love to be in touch again. How can we do that???????? Give her my very best. Pat Walden (nee Boddy)

  • Re: Montague Road by lisa ashcroft (Member 10242089) on 23-Nov-2009
    Pat you have made my day. I have been checking this every day since I saw your message .... Yippee!! I have also sent you a message using Friends Reunited. So I hope you get it. In case they don't have your uptodate details, I'll send another.
    There is so much to tell you.
    I was born in Corwell lane, we then moved to flats called Avon-dale drive in Hase, which I believe are no longer there, befo... more >>

  • Re: Montague Road by pat walden (Member 10236204) on 25-Nov-2009
    Lisa - I was thrilled to get your message. My phone No is07835251273. Hope to hear from you. Pat

 
AEC Routemaster production by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Oct-2009
Further to a comment put by Pauline Sykes. l have tried to establish for how long Routemasters were built at the AEC Southall factory.

There is an amazing link full off information about each London bus class including ALL the AEC types such as RT, T and of course the RM

Google "Ian's Bus Stop" for further ... more >>
  
  • Re: AEC Routemaster production by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-May-2010
    I belive Routemaster buses owed some design to the Halifax Bomber of WW11 sub assembles of this aircraft were built at Chiswick works, the bus haveing a body/chassis structure all of aluminum.

 
BobWoodhouse by Ronald Gollop (Member 10241737) on 23-Oct-2009
Has anyone heard of Bob woodhuse of Heathway Southall, last heard of in Swindon?   
  • Re: BobWoodhouse by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 13-Nov-2009
    Hi Ron,
    I haven't heard of Bob for over 50 years, but I remember your family. We used to live round the corner in Manor Way.

  • Re: BobWoodhouse by Ronald Gollop (Member 10241737) on 2-Nov-2013
    Hi I was just talking about you last month when I met some southalliens in a sand dune in Northumberland.

 
britishpathe by Ronald Gollop (Member 10241737) on 23-Oct-2009
if you want a really good half hours fun go onto www.britishpathe.co, as suggested earlier but then search Middlesex, you have bi planes and canal boats etc in the 1930's at heston aerodrome and in grand union canal. It is unbelievable!   
  • Re: britishpathe by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Oct-2009
    good 54 pages lot wembley..canal good1953....1940 hanwell garage duke kent visit...southall swim pool 1961

 
We were so lucky by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Oct-2009
We saw the "best of the last" West London was still rural until the late '50s. l remember that when you went beyond Greenford, it was countryside with horses in fields. Yeading was surrounded by fields on all sides. You could still see signs of how rural it all must have been before the 39-45 war. Children always played in safety and it was a wonderful place to be brought up. Now it... more >>   
  • Re: We were so lucky by Ronald Gollop (Member 10241737) on 23-Oct-2009
    I agree, it's a whole different ball game now.

  • Re: We were so lucky by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 26-Oct-2009
    I could not agree more, if you scrol down a few pages you'll see I made the point that Southall is a festering dump, despite the liberal elite's dressing it up as a 'Multicultural heaven' it is not. It has no soul, no character and no heart.

    Yes I too remember how nice it was to live and work in the area in the 50's and 60's, we left doors and windows open on hot nights and days, your neighbour... more >>

  • Re: We were so lucky by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-Nov-2009
    l cannot ever see me going along the Uxbridge Road ever again. This Southall Knowhere board has been so interesting wheras neighbouring boards are dead, Let us remember W. London as we knew it. NOTHING has changed for the better.

    l now live in Sussex Why would l want my fond memories destroyed?? My Dad worked on the canal twixt Brentford Docks, Hanwell Flight and West Drayton, so, No... more >>

  • Re: We were so lucky by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-Nov-2009
    l cannot ever see me going along the Uxbridge Road ever again. This Southall Knowhere board has been so interesting wheras neighbouring boards are dead, Let us remember W. London as we knew it. NOTHING has changed for the better.

    l now live in Sussex Why would l want my fond memories destroyed?? My Dad worked on the canal twixt Brentford Docks, Hanwell Flight and West Drayton, so, No... more >>

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2009
    site called... category ealing wikimedia has good photos..hanwell 1910 home and colonial tram says lipton tea and holmes shop..tram looking west 1910 from hanwell bridge to southall..asylum has wall right up to viaduct pub bridge...6 old cars ..snow.......naval gun 3bridges AF83.jpeg......gatehouse asylum....fox pub which is still ok listed...fox photo by flight locks...

  • Re: We were so lucky by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-Nov-2009
    Sorry Yvonne, cannot find the site you mantion.
    What is it called??

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2009
    dear keith....type....CATEGORY EALING WIKIMEDIA COMMON..........they are lang postcards.let us know if find ok

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2009
    also just type ......... tram in hanwell.......... and lipton tram large appears

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2009
    hanwell wikipedia.....also has all photos..the clock 7 may 1937 unveiled..broadway cafe......click on photo it enlarges....end of article click on references and it gives the story of the clock etc etc

  • Re: We were so lucky by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Nov-2009
    Thank you Yvonne. l'm so glad that a record exists of the wonderful place in which we once lived. Our politicians can then see for themselves how they have destroyed it. lt hasn't all been "progress", has it! Moral values and our once great community spirit doesn't easily show up on photos.

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2009
    the colonial is behind the tram.click to enlarge photo...marvellous to still have photos of 80 yrs ago 1910.. we like history and local development 1800s 1900s family tree mine local...photography early for those who could afford it ..is priceless record ..interesting....along with verbal memories..bbc site of ordinary peoples memories and public libraries keep taperecordings

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2009
    keith if you knew of hanwell ...jack hills born about 1920..family cuckoo estate eldest daughter jennifer..river brent flooded costons lane the bridge 1980s ish.police in little dingy boats..greenford rd to work could not get through that day..they opened swelling harp reservoir to flood greenford and spare welsh harp area from flooding..1950s bunny park..have expanded it there..rose gardens under... more >>

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2009
    keith..on bus my family used to say coat arms on viaduct because queen mary used to stop to view viaduct on way to windsor books say victoria..do you know...1900s photos over 100yrs ago meant to say..time flies..bat caves viaduct.secombe brother vicar st mary.original 900 built...james 1st statue fireplace boston manor hse he insisted on.union scots..yrs of huge flower beds pond.and gunnesbury hse... more >>

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2009
    pauline..just looking home colonial saw j lyons 32 high st west ealing 1914 onwards...historical directories leicester univ post office lists...southall etc......sayers draper.8 home colonial.23 lipton..32 lyons ...boston rd hanwell john williams draper..on 1910 photo home colonial hanwell...google says they took over lipton and maypole up north.1924 expanding stores...andre frank owned g... more >>

  • Re: We were so lucky by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Nov-2009
    Two things:

    l was told arms on Hanwell viaduct are those NOT of Queen but of Lord Wharnecliffe who it is supposed to be named after. It was queen Victoria who got trains stopped to look at the view. FIRST Royal across was Queen ADELAIDE who was widow of a previous king who was still alive when railway was built - she was considered "expendible" if train went too fast.

    2 Ruislip Road East... more >>

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2009
    keith thanks very interesting..keep your knowledge coming.nice to build a picture....my aunt originally army barracks chelsea father before 1920 .4 daughters they used to walk up into kensington museums for day somewhere to keep warm..they came southall..but had sunday day out greenford early 1920 before 1927 portland cres was built by wimpey and before 1930 ferrymead ravenor pk estate was built..... more >>

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2009
    yes lords coat arms on google 1st time have seen close up on brick of viaduct photo huge..chairman of GWR..so royal did not stop her car on way to windsor to look at viaduct she stopped the train to look from high view grass and excitement of brunels amazing achievement..laugh about adelaide yes .the tiny first trains so scared of.... even victoria picture precarious on open cart carriage first ... more >>

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2009
    about 1836 and 1838...arms and adelaide.1834 adelaide and king will4 entertained at boston manor hse by clitheroe banker and farms there...nearby gospel oak removed 1929..gallows of highwaymen half way between bost man station and M4.......the viaduct pub before waggon horses..but 1900s my gdad carts to covent garden..market gdn produce from farms windmill to northhyde area...he drove very very e... more >>

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2009
    pauline post just arrived 2.30pm.colindale searched all october 1951 not found prize pike as we have told them first prize and 2nd prize 2oz less...probably small little bit in fishing back pages and they did not see it clearly on microfiche...people can go anytime to read papers on tiny microfiche on monitor screens

  • Re: We were so lucky by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Nov-2009
    Yes

    Victoria always went G W R route from Paddington through Southall to Windsor, (don't know when the Waterloo route was opened, but Windsor GWR was the Royal station) Victoria did use Waterloo for Chatham, Gosport etc, but GWR was her railway of choice

  • Re: We were so lucky by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Nov-2009
    Yvonne - thanks for trying Colindale regarding the Pike. At least the information is on the Site now for all anglers to read. Also, loved the photos on both sites. The ones of Ealing Common Station were excellent plus Hanwell Wikepedia.

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2009
    ok pauline..yes I like all the photos..I keep digging away at google to fine more.best wishes

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2009
    yes there is lovely royal railway station exhibition at windsor with all props etc was good...saw royal train once .came across our rd down new forest it was going to cowes week..curtains drawn about 1989

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2009
    the frith site has memories all towns..southall etc..greenford says 1950s rolling stones everly brothers searchers at odeon huge screaming..cinema the organist popping up from the floor...and all shops remembered .photos on frith..jane macdonald fiance drummer of searchers ed..known since young people.my husband went to school searcher at springgrove grammer lampton hounslow

  • Re: We were so lucky by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    GWR.postman just been.leaflet through the window paddington to penzance.....charming descriptions and through royal berkshire...published by old house bks moretonhampsted devon..lovely steam train old railways poster on cover 1927 journey

 
Barge horses by Ronald Gollop (Member 10241737) on 22-Oct-2009
I spent a great deal of my summer holidays travelling up and down the canal on the barges. Mooring at Hanwell locks and then stabling the horses. I used to ride them bare back to the stable. They were wonderful creatures. If ever the tow rope broke no matter where the horse was on his journey he would head for the stable at full gallop. We'd have to go and fetch them back.

  
  • Re: Barge horses by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Oct-2009
    The only stables were at Brenford Dock. Only narrow boats went north beyond Hayes and the "Slough cut" was impenetrable with weeds by the '50s. If you had used the word "marina" in those days, you would have been sent to St. Bernards for a check up

  • Re: Barge horses by Ronald Gollop (Member 10241737) on 22-Oct-2009
    talking 1943 here

  • Re: Barge horses by Ronald Gollop (Member 10241737) on 22-Oct-2009
    Bulls Bridge stables 1 mile from home (Southall)

  • Re: Barge horses by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Oct-2009
    Bulls Bridge stables had gone by the late '50s and was only the maintenance depot Around 1960, the Brentford stables become a tractor shed overnight. The gorgeous horses all disappeared and were replaced by nasty, smelly, noisy little light blue 2-stroke motorised carts- predecessors of the beach buggy.

  • Re: Barge horses by Ronald Gollop (Member 10241737) on 22-Oct-2009
    I never saw them but I heard about them

  • Re: Barge horses by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Oct-2009
    Hanwell locks was actually called "Hanwell Flight" because there are so many locks confined together. They are all numbered, and No 1 is l think up in Birmingham, then they work south. The Hanwell Flight are all in the 90s and Brentford is 100. I think, but not sure, 101 is where the canal enters the Thames at Brentford dock

  • Re: Barge horses by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Oct-2009
    Hi Ronald, welcome to the site. When I was very young (about five in 1936) I lived in Bankside at the far end, not near the Uxbridge road. I used to hear the barges chugging away at night carrying their cargo, and in the daytime saw the magnificent Shire horses pulling the barges along. There was a bridge not far from our house, and I can remember seeing a man pushing his legs against the brick wa... more >>

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2009
    keith ron see the brentford dock association on google many yrs info of whole history and hanwell flight etc

  • Re: Barge horses by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Oct-2009
    I found it interesting on Google that the Shire horses came over with the Normans, and on average, weigh up to a ton. They are capable of moving a weight that is five times their own weight, plus I think they were the most magnificent, gentle and docile of creatures.

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2009
    my aunt sarah linsey springwell rd heston..her youngest son fred lindsey..did the shire horses heston farm by the church.he was excempt 2nd w war essential work there.he won medals for his shire horses

  • Re: Barge horses by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Oct-2009
    I worked at Heston Farm in the school holidays in 1945 stringing up tomatoes and picking up the windfall apples. There was a Shire horse there who was used when ploughing the fields. The land-army girls were also working there in their uniforms. We all loved the horse. I wonder if your relative was around then, Yvonne? Such happy days.

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2009
    fred lindsey was exsempt from war so he was 1939 to 1945 and didnt retire till severasl yrs later..he was born about 1918.so always worked with shire horses there won medals..family many many yrs of ag labourers heston rich soil..elizabeth 1st said finest wheat of heston..market gardening for brentford kew market and they drove wagons to covent gdn..viaduct pub uxbridge rd they stopped well befor... more >>

  • Re: Barge horses by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Oct-2009
    I also worked on Heston Farm as a student in the summer of 1950. One of my jobs was to lead the horse on a horse rake, under the orders of a man called Fiddler. He cursed the horse and I in about similar measure.The horse once stepped on my foot-mercifully in soft soil.

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2009
    shire horse centre opened 1988 chalfont st peter fairly local

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2009
    shire horse society was local 1940 to 1945 5 broadway east denham..sold 2yr old stallions £15...gold medal awards £5.silver bronze medals......we liked few yrs ago nearly every yr shire horse and carriage etc ....central london easter.was regents park then battersea pk..now in countryside south england...polished perfect all and owners in costume etc all types of everything and... more >>

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2009
    keep thinking be good go stoke bruen canal museum near birmingham as so many of us and ancestors lived near canal.brickmakers loaded barges to build buckingham palace .little venice festival barges near regent park good and annual festival rickmansworth and little museum there excellent

  • Re: Barge horses by josie (Member 10235627) on 3-Nov-2009
    Have been to see the Shire Horses at The Chalfonts mostley ex regiment horses, magnificent animals,very happy that Southall Horse Market is closed down not a nice place for any animal let alone Horses.regards Josie.

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2009
    yes think it is near chalfont st giles and the open air rural centre there..have been twice to that .has a 1947 prefab furnished and garden etc..has 1900s school hse and strict school marm .she is frightening with lessons..ancient church and funeral rest and carriage coffin thing...restaurant...brickmaking demonstrated .chairs candles made etc..and toll house that has been kept and placed there..... more >>

  • Re: Barge horses by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Nov-2009
    So Southall horse market is shut?? Thank God for that.

  • Re: Barge horses by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 3-Nov-2009
    When I worked in Woolies Southall Wednesday afternoons used to be watch the thieves afternoon.The gypsies from the horse market used to come in in droves and just fill bags with all sorts of stuff. Very few ever got caught.

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2009
    they reduced the price of lots for last week when woolworths ended a while ago..easter eggs from woollies.ordinary price ones for kids had little sugar flowers stuck on the chocolate egg in box.not seen that type for a while

  • Re: Barge horses by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Nov-2009
    Hi Dilys - when you were working in Woolies in Southall, did you each have your own counter. I can remember they were like squares, and you only served customers on your section? No queuing up to pay for goods then!

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2009
    as late as 1965 woolworth we did whole day at only one counter.£1 saturday for 17 wks to pay for £17 pound school trip salzburg when sound music being filmed,,,,dull dark green overall grocery counter black felt tip pen write on tins price..stack and serve.bit of lunch break walk out.supervisor crafty twigged I was ok.would you do the stock take of the icy cold fridge freezer..to save her doing... more >>

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2009
    at each square section of woolies had the very big square price sign.. 6d...have seen photos of it in books or archive or films..1970 sydney suburb woolamagoo or something..they had old fashioned wood planks floor woolies store on the corner.. square sweet counter was opposite me no staff on it but not allowed to go across.think there was suposed to be a supervisor somewhere who was supposed to..... more >>

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2009
    paul seaton manager and career woolies.his good virtual museum in front room on google...6d drinking glasses they made them cheaper than anybody else....5 and 10 cent store , 5 and dime.

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2009
    google says they lifted 6d limit 1942.50s mahogany counters and glass divides..2 for 3d in 1928...photo front window 1931..piled high with goods ..can zoom in....tin bowls buckets enamel baby baths.saucepans..teapot 6d lid 3d.....cups towels....says 3d and 6d store high across shop

  • Re: Barge horses by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 6-Nov-2009
    Remember biscuits were sold loose, which were kept in large tins behind the counter, you could also buy a bag of broken biscuits

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2009
    glass front of plain siver biscuit tin layed along the front of grubhams..and broken biscuits cheap

  • Re: Barge horses by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 6-Nov-2009
    I worked at Woolies in the mid 80s. No counters then, but I remember when there were. M&S was the same. I much prefered it that way. Also in the 60s Woolies had a snack bar right at the back of the store.My friend June and I used to go in with our prams after we had done our shopping to have a nice cup of tea.Happy days.
    I went to work at Woolies because I wanted a part-time stress free job. Some hopes!

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2009
    several ms stores now..food..long wall cashiers along one side near exit..those terrible green overalls 1965 woolies..stock room upstairs ...lift .trolley try get some replenish stock down

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2009
    keith and all...nice book google...local hist soc brentford and historian..eye witness accounts gt flood of canal brentford.jan 1841..bif freeze..thaw..ripped boats from moorings...smashed property causing death destruction in its wake..val bott

  • Re: Barge horses by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2009
    vince ron keith and all...canal boat builders...walkers of ricky book by anthony j walker ltd 1991.. whwalker and brothers..rickmansworth...photo boatswoman pulling horse with straw hat over ears bridge boxmoor canal 1900s

  • Re: Barge horses by terence patrick hewett (Member 10243212) on 16-Mar-2010
    I also used to travel up and down the Grand Union Canal with the barges when I was a kid. I remember the transition from the shire horses (lovely smell, horse brasses, feed bags, steam, puffing, blowing, straining dripping cable) to the nasty blue tractors. One day they took all the horses up to Balls Bridge Depot, and shot the lot.

 
pauline fish prize by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2009
dear pauline just had letter back from brit lib newspaper arch colindale...news world 1951 7th and 14 checked pike fish late london edition.no hillier fish of week...I told them 21st...so that shame did write 21st to them   
  • Re: pauline fish prize by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Oct-2009
    Thanks for trying Yvonne. Cecil Hillier was only the second biggest pike winner of the week - he was beaten by 2 ozs! When my brother-in-law heard about this, he thought it was dreadful to catch that poor Pike and not put it back into the water again. But life was different in those days.

  • Re: pauline fish prize by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2009
    yes sent letter back to them tooday to repeat what had written to them before that 25pound 7 oz and 2nd prize hillier 5 oz..said again 21 issue oct 51.....so see if lucky await reply again..their mistake hope they retry

  • Re: pauline fish prize by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 4-Nov-2009
    Keith reference the canal did you ever see the film "The Bargee" most of it filmed up the Top Locks and the Three Bridges Harry Corbett Ronnie Barker star in it you can buy it on Amazon.

  • Re: pauline fish prize by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    think it has been on tv once.wish they would put it on again..eric sykes ron barker miriam karlin derek nimmo rita webb.galton simpson wrote it of hancock and steptoe.1960s barge life of hemel pike .1935 boats

  • Re: pauline fish prize by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    len likes a joke.corbett was asked why are you called hemel pike in the film.he said because was born hemel hempstead...where some film filmed...ronnie barker said to corbett ......good thing you werent born berkhampsted...elstree film

 
WONDERFUL by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Oct-2009
lt is great that people are using this board. The Knowhere Ealing board has only had 3 messages posted on it during the whole of this year!!

How lucky those born before the early '50's were living in what was one of the lungs of west London. WE may not have had much then, but l bet we were happier then than the kids being brought up today are.
  
  • Re: WONDERFUL by Ronald Gollop (Member 10241737) on 22-Oct-2009
    Hi I am a new member to this board and I have enjoyed every entry I've read over the last couple of days. I was born and raised at 2 Heathway, the Common Southall. So many of your memories are mine too. The Doodlbug stopped over our garden, the icecream man was probably my brother Jack , who was later killed in Libya.
    must go now but I shall be back! Ron Gollop

  • Re: WONDERFUL by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 22-Oct-2009
    Keith-a few years back I looked at the sites of other towns neighbouring Southall, and they are likewise not very active. I have just looked up the site for where I live now (Harpenden, Herts) and there are just 69 entries-the last in December 2008!

  • Re: WONDERFUL by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Oct-2009
    Michael, l was a Hanwell boy, but most people have never heard of the place. But unusually, i did go to Southall a lot, as my Dad worked on the canal twixt Brentford docks, Norwood "Top Lock" and Bull's Bridge canal basin. I remeber the last barge horses. GORGEOUS animals.

    "Southall" seems to be one of the few active 'Knowhere' sites. Am amazed to find there have been no Ealing entries f... more >>

  • Re: WONDERFUL by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 22-Oct-2009

    Keith, a few years ago I had an Iranian girl as a post-graduate student. I was amazed when she told me that she had been to a girls school in Hanwell!!

  • Re: WONDERFUL by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Oct-2009
    l was at Drayton Manor a mixed grammar. There were several Southall pupils in the intake - it was a good grammar school with a wide catchment area. Even a couple from Hayes every year - pupils were expected to walk to/from Hanwell station.
    But there were several other schools too in Hanwell -mostly unisex. Do you know which school the Iranian girl went to??

  • Re: WONDERFUL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2009
    I looked up local sites saw little...even went up the country to cousins locations nothing...unique southall with such drastic change that creates memories more complely gone than other towns of country

  • Re: WONDERFUL by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 22-Oct-2009

    Keth-I will contact the Iranian young lady, and hopefully find out.

  • Re: WONDERFUL by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 24-Oct-2009

    Keiths references to the grand union canal brings back some memories. My dad was a keen angler.Just before the war broke out, we found the branch which I think went to Quaker Oats. There was land on the opposite bank to the tow path, which was a great place to fish. Surprisingly, we caught a lot of Bleak, a fish usually found only in rivers.

  • Re: WONDERFUL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2009
    tony and dad fished..and bleak ..little silver fish..reservoirs.quarries/.and pentonhook staines

  • Re: WONDERFUL by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Nov-2009
    Keith: my Iranian lady colleague went to Elthorne High School on Boston Manor Road.(she is, I imagine in her early 40's now.

  • Re: WONDERFUL by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Nov-2009
    Thanks,

    That was too far south for my "turf" I was a Drayton Manor boy and lived then at the northern tip of Hanwell, near Brentside. In fact Greenford was nearer to walk to for us.

  • Re: WONDERFUL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2009
    cuchoo estate still exsists.they built swimming pool opposide.school still there along main rd.bus e1 e2 go down there now.back entrance into brent park and st mary church.duke kent pub at scotch common and pitzhanger row shops and park behind

  • Re: WONDERFUL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2009
    keith was at drayton last week..still quiet and nice drayton green park..courtfield gardens..argyll.the bigger edwardian etc houses they have adapted into flats inside.st stephens church spire

  • Re: WONDERFUL by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Nov-2009
    Hanwell very remarkable shape as originally, it extended all the way down past Boston Manor to Brentford. So three miles long and in some places only 500 yards across. Hanwell once very important (more so than Ealing) and West Ealing more importatnt than Ealing Bdy, but when the 2 x electric railways both terminated at Eal Bdy, the writing was on the wall. Until EARLY 50s, W. Ealing still be... more >>

  • Re: WONDERFUL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2009
    1950s 1960s we used w ealing.more variey shops and good prices..only the sort of bentalls or saunders at ealing broadway lilly skinner big shoe shop corner..but with victorian reputation queen suburbs.we would see it as mor expensive.more elite..m and s.. brit home stores were all at w ealing....1980s they built the shop mall indoor there by post office 65 bus stop.queen opened it 1985 unveiled ho... more >>

  • Re: WONDERFUL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2009
    so shakespeare church rd.near the hermitage cottage thatch pointed window door 1809 listed...rector glasse spring in grounds origin well of hanwell//.photos on flickr site..and drayton green primary school 1908 photo..photos dozen..argyle was 1800 greenford rd before new greenf rd built 1924....pitzhanger lane but is really scotch common on ancient maps...photos 1902 looking west w ealing junction... more >>

 
norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2009
to all and phyl hutnell scarbrow norwood green.rare new photo 1900s plough norwood green from barry kindly.dean landlord.will bring copy to fete church warden st mary.detailed can zoom in people horse activities.opposite shop biscoe etc.union jack flag at pub pole   
  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2009
    len tony will get copy of photo to you weekend.hancock shop opposite plough 1900s.your friend lives over there.barry found glass plates in old garage verona terrace.google says verona borough ealing plans car park.

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2009
    phyl those who knew dean landlords.1900s plough photo says s dean in sign post..seems photo of him going in side wood gate old fences.he seems to be saying hello to passer by.some middle class and gentry in photo.old glass plates found in old garage verona terrace.which seems to be car pk now at top avenue rd high st southall along by old market.sincere thanks to barry

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2009
    barry just found kelly directory 1914 verona terrace norwood green...starts at woodbine corner with post office along back to your horticulture school area then v terr...4 bonnet 3 kirby 2 morphew 1 davies..then goes to norwood terrace richard dean in cottages there then goes to plough pub stephen dean landlord

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2009
    1914 kellys says south side for verona terrace and letter box there says worsley rd joins there but no worsley in a to z now.... then followed by norwwod terrace.so all that side down from wolf pub and police station.then it says the green and starts at plough pub and footpath to osterley park. rev warple lives along there..and norwood hist site says vicarage always covered in ivy.destroyed 2nd w war then rebuilt.

  • Re: norwood green by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 19-Oct-2009
    All these messages about Norwood Green, have suddenly brought back a memory to me. I was at Southall Junior Technical College 1942-1945. One of our senior masters was a Mr Manders. He lived in Tentelow Lane, not far from where it joins Norwood Green, on the left hand side going in the Norwood Green direction. He had a large house, and a very large garden, with three large greenhouses. He also had ... more >>

  • Re: norwood green by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 19-Oct-2009
    Hi Michael;- very interesting about Mr. Manders, After leaving the Scouts in Hayes I joined the St. John Ambulance Brigade 55 Div. Southall, think in Featherstone Road or nearby. Thia would have been late 50's early 60's anyway our Instructor was a Mr. Manders, don't know where he lived. Our classes were always on a Friday evening and I know I was there when the news came in that John F. Kennedy h... more >>

  • Re: norwood green by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 19-Oct-2009
    Barry- Mr Manders I know served in the Royal Engineers in WW1-My guess he would have been~65 in 1960. He was married with two daughters, one older than me(I am 81 now), and one much younger.My memories of him are now a bit hazy, but as I recall he had wispy hair and a moustache.

  • Re: norwood green by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 19-Oct-2009
    Hi again Michael;-
    Could have been him, age would be about right, not a very common name but as you say was quite a while ago, I was just a lad then, just turned 60 now. Would you have known my dad/family he was born in King Street 1919 Walter Raymond, had brothers George, Jim and sisters Ruth, Peggy (Mary) their parents had Raymonds Coffee Rooms corner of King St/Norwood Rd. think dad went to Fe... more >>

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2009
    memories for some of you..photos this week.northcote arms 1970..1968 w lenger fish poultry king st at bend.zebra beacon crossing..fruiteres .logs chopped wood and expressp coffee rooms

  • Re: norwood green by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Oct-2009
    Hello again Barry. Sorry to say I didn't know any of your dads family. I lived in North road,on the other side of Southall. We did use to visit my aunt and her family in Queens road, and mum would periodically go to the coop in Kings Street(?)

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2009
    photos n green .confectioner r hancock opposite plough 1900s.plough huge board sign ales stouts..wellused yrs of huge union jack flag on high pole..s dean landlord..old fences gates as was before our little brick walls.horses carts deliver bike clothh caps white stiff collars..ladies 1900s clothes length skirts hats as to 1st w war

  • Re: norwood green by Ronald Gollop (Member 10241737) on 20-Oct-2009
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  • Re: norwood green by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Oct-2009
    Does anyone know if Osterley Jazz Club still exists? It was on the south side of Tentelow Lane twixt Norwood Green and the 3 bridges,

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2009
    seems large area osterley sports club there alond south side

  • Re: norwood green by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Oct-2009
    Yes, that rings a bell now. The jazz club was in a large shed on the west side of the sports ground

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    osterley rufc......site.......long item but last chapter all about jazz club and celebrities there

  • Re: norwood green by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Nov-2009
    Thank You

    Living in Sussex now, many years since l was in the area but many fond memories of this

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    cleo lane was on tv this am.she and johnnie been touring..they have show coming up now

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Nov-2009
    hi ricky...musical instruments shop warrick....warwick is name in lists....if you want kelly post office directory on line......site....historical directories........done by leicester univ......alphabetical residents and shops etc...southall ealing etc 1914 about......ealing library local hist dept have all the years......looked up ealing warwick warrick..and music insruments or such...pia... more >>

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Nov-2009
    clarence st...we used district nurse there 1920s 30s 40s.......nurse rolph.......prince williams long time partner kate..3 generations clarence...her mum grandmother aunts......born there worked from there...quite few yrs....hard times difficulties poverty....but her mum became airhostess and married aircraft husband...with her sister they became affluent...and now millionare childrens party on l... more >>

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Nov-2009
    josie and uncle......just seen rt warren and his father 1914 post office directory...no wonder gdad knew him so well...bet he had his suits made measure butlers corner shop....gdad was warrens forman of teams men house builders..he gave gdad his suits waistcoats......my photo of them together......just next rd to us 1927 we were west ave ...R T warren was 1914 1 shackleton rd....his father ro... more >>

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Nov-2009
    ricky....150 yrs ago warwick warrick from france.... normandy famous ones were huguenots.flee reigious persecusion....to east end london etc..trade and silk workers etc 1600s and continued....my dormers teacher.mrs foot...her husband family foote..from descent....during 2nd w war she kept his carpet making business going....son played piano amazingly well

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Nov-2009
    musical instruments boxes clever in film in the tiny house and off the rail bridge..trains steam..southall and ealing broadway tracks so near for them..and if at st pancras filming..the old LP on old gramaphone in film stylus...take arm across to tune you wanted....fancy being excentric walking into police station today ...dizzy left umbrella...or give the lolly back..edwardian lady slang..... more >>

  • Re: norwood green by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Nov-2009
    just happened to notice remake...ladykillers...another one of our expresions......I wouldnt give it house room Ha.....they had to mock up the musical instruments....baroque instruments and nobody would lend them.....tom hanks...cassino ..riverboat mississipi....our ealing one one of the top british comedies and bet did not cost too much compared to hollywood...alex guiness herbert lom and all ... more >>

 
southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2009
The LGOC and the tramway systems had quite a few examples of a bus garage and a tram depot in the same area, sharing the same name. This was not a problem when they were in different administrative set-ups.

When London Transport combined the formerly separate departments (Central Buses and Trams & Trolleybuses) into one organisation (Central Road Services) in 1950, just before the beginning ... more >>
  
  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Oct-2009
    caroline has just replied to my month ago reguest from bus archive.info especially for mike len.it was their fathers

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Oct-2009
    You are right

    Southall's garage code stayed as HW to the end, whilst Hanwell was coded 'HL'

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Oct-2009
    thanks my memory is standing at first bus stop .it was quite a way down from iron bridge.looking far ahead and glad when you saw 607 coming out of garage my way..often cold wet or fog.seem to remember using 3 pence bit as kid fare..get on back bus up stairs or room for one standing inside.and as we joked.she could stamp her foot upstairs as clippy for driver in cab to drive off

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Oct-2009
    Last month l went through Hanwell Braodway for the first time in 30 years. I see that Hanwell is now mutating into Southall and the old Hanwell trolleybus depot is now a Lidl Supermarket. l now live in Sussex and seeing Hanwell again. l understand why l moved

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Oct-2009
    I was trying to get a picture in my mind of Hanwell Broadway, Keith. I can remember very clearly the wonderful Wharncliffe Viaduct over the River Brent, and the Hanwell Kensington & Chelsea cemetery, where my grandparents are buried. Also the landmark of the clock in the middle and Boston Manor road opposite, where we got the bus to Kew Gardens. I remember the bus garage, but I can't say I ever sh... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Oct-2009
    No, there was never a Lyons in West Ealing. But in the 50's West Ealing was the major shopping centre. It gradually declined as Ealing Broadway got more prominent. Hanwell Broadway was nothing other than local shops (one man bands) but there were lots of them. The 607 trolleybus from Southall was the artery all along the Uxbridge road to Shepherds Bush, but there was another minor trolley... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2009
    yes from ealing broadway 65 bus kew gdns.have always gone ..through all the years..hanwell shops were always old small shops..old pub along the front there..no lyons west ealing..abc tea shop opposite feathers pub ealing broadway...rouses fabric materials etc store...marks sparks ..brit home stores west ealing..shoes..cemetery hanwell our male relative knocked over by tram buried there..oates at... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2009
    bentalls..john saunders big stores ealing broadway but changed now..ealing common fun fair still there holidays

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Oct-2009
    It was F H ROWSE in West Ealing. West Ealing declined to Ealing Broadway's benefit after about 1956, year by year, bit by bit. Rowse's was a great big store almost the size of Bentalls, but being in West Ealing became the "kiss of death" to that sort of retail outlet.

    l now see "Ye Olde Hanwell Stores" right by Hanwell (art deco) clock tower, have been pulled down to become an ugly glass... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2009
    west ealing had the main daniels store lot of people bought their prams cots baby things there...there is mothercare now...pawn shop 3 balls outside was always as you first see the high street..goes back doneys years ,think saw it still there even now.....used to be rspca animals centre on way there...see over top of asylum from top of bus...big entrance gates and front wall area there long gone

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2009
    rowse did they have the top money metal containers shooting across on high wires..seem to remember that..they may have moved on from that in few yrs..we bought all our school material .patterns for sew lessons..

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2009
    west ealing the lido grass area at end there..cinema opposite now flats....because taylor woodrow office covered huge long area..there are loads flats going up there now

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Oct-2009
    l THINK it was Rowse's that was the last one to have the money in little metal containers flying along the ceiling on wires, but that actually may just have been Daniels. Between Ealing Bdy and West Ealing shops there was a bit of a void with Fire Station, a couple of pubs ("Thw Old Hat") and some late vicorian houses. All gone now l expect. By the green area opposite Lido was Shellshear's ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Oct-2009
    I'm sure in Rowse's West Ealing there was a stuffed animal, either a bear or a monkey, which all the children loved, and they used to hug it. It was in there for years and got quite manky looking at the end. Does anyone else remember it?

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2009
    LEN wonder if remember electric wires money zoom across at cousins store southall.sorry dont remember animal 1960 pauline rowse.sold everything rowse was useful...think there was store something before bentalls ealing broadway cant remember/////now indoor shop malls ealing broadway uxbridge hounslow and huge new one shep bush...glass polish cooffee bars public library local history ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2009
    there used to be large dog or something money box slot in top for charity at different stores

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2009
    wonder how they afforded daniels pram cot etc afer war..lack of houses..and many first married no hand me down..but of course HP..furniture etc was hp pay weekly..and wembly had club at curtain sheets shop..pay gradually.baby boom at schools all the return servicemen and classes of after war babies..hillingdon maternity hospital.new nhs..antibiotics at last..polio was spoken of in assembly many ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Oct-2009
    I have a feeling that we bought our first bedroom suite in 1954 on the 'never never' at Sanders in Ealing. We paid it up quickly and I remember they sent us a letter thanking us. Can't see that happening today!

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 27-Oct-2009
    Hi there;-Lots of memories coming back here, think we bought one of our first prams from Daniels. Saw a lady we know the other day amd she has the most beutiful pink coachbuilt Sivercross pram for her 1st grandaughter, paid £1300 for it!. As for Measles etc,. yes had the lot including mumps and chickenpox. Remember Measles well, was virtually isolated in the front room for two weeks with nan pull... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2009
    west ealing on google.daniels replaced by flats.greenman 1700s closed 1981.2007 iceland...old hat of 400yrs 1st stage post oxford rd 1700s on old tollgate..now grill bar 2008...broadwalk hotel layed back off road cars in front photo...old steel warehouse fruit packing famous 1800s northfield rd photo..my ancestor worked fruit market gardening along there

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Oct-2009
    Re: Cousins in-and-out shop - second shop to the right after coming out of Northcote Avenue. Steel shuttered shop, and I'm pretty certain that it did have an electric wire system whizzing over head to the cashier. We had to wait sometime before customers in front got their change back! This was in late 40's early 50's.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2009
    photo of rowse on whippit inn carry on film actors all around w ealing.1970 says demolished..hanwell library also there photo...parkers bread dolcis shoes..barretts

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2009
    pauline yes thought so at cousins..we went to get nans pinnies etc and sheets bolster pillow cases etc.perhaps net curtain..thought wire 1950s..might even be funny wood cashier box had to go to on way out seemed very old shop.burtons was before 1900s..rest broadway built later..butchers had marble and wood cashier box go to after butcher served one..found all token funny money discs as child used in some shops

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 27-Oct-2009
    A shop using metal tokens and discs in the early '50s was 'Williams Brothers' in Greenford Broadway. Was there a branch in Southall too??

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 27-Oct-2009
    Hi Keith;-don't knowabout Southall but there was aWilliams Brothers in Hayes on thecorner junction Station Rd/Coldharbour Lane, they had a green shopfront.

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 27-Oct-2009
    Yes, Green shop front with Williams Brothers in big white letters. They were the last shop I know of locally who used their own metal tokes - they were thin pressed sheet aluminium or tin, different shapes for different values

  • Re: southall bus garage by Chris (Member 10220786) on 27-Oct-2009
    Williams Bros in Southall ?? - Yes in South Road. My husband actually worked there for a while. Hardware one side groceries & provisions the other. We had to pay at a little hatch type window at the end of the grocery store; and received 'tin' money back to be spent at a later date.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Oct-2009
    There was indeed a Williams Bros in Southall-two adjacent shops, one a grocers and the other a hardware shop. It was on the right hand side of South Road if you were looking towards the station.In my boyhood, the manager of the grocers was a Mr Hopkins.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Oct-2009
    I also had the usual run of measles, mumps and chicken pox and scarlet fever twice (they thought the 2nd time it was diphtheria). The worst for me, however, was impetigo, which my brother brought in. I had it all in my hair and had to have all my hair cut off. Weeks off school, and that ghastly gentian violet plastered
    everywhere. Wearing a pixie hat didn't help either, it made it itch more. Tha... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2009
    you had bad time of it pauline.my aunt had whooping cough about that time thought they were going to loose her.dad as young person had perritonitus nearly lost him..was difficult times..aunt had pleurosy and nearly died of alergic reaction to antibiotic of the time anaphylactic shock...dark room several days boredom and measles ok lucky I was age 5.age 6 tonsils king edward 7th hospital mattock la... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Oct-2009
    Thinking about Lyons, I think there was one right opposite where I worked in an Insurance company, in the middle of Ealing Broadway. I seem to remember large gold letters on the front. My friend and I (both 15) used to look across from our upstairs window to some Danish students doing business studies in Ealing, who used to wave at us! Another eating place, almost opposite Ealing Broadway station,... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 28-Oct-2009
    ABC stood for Aereated Bread Company. They had a shop/bakery almost opposite Ealing Broadway station in the days when traffic on that bit of road ran in both directions. There were offices above the bakery/resaurant. lt was certainly still there in 1958 but l don't know for how long afterwards.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 28-Oct-2009
    There was also an ABC restaurant in Southall Broadway.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Oct-2009
    Interesting to note that Alexis Korner's Blues Incorporated (The Ealing Club) performed in a basement below the ABC teashop opposite Ealing Broadway station on a Saturday night. It was a Trad Jazz Venue and Korner and Cyril Davies put on their first jig on 17 March 1962 and it was a sell out. Young hopefuls would frequent the club and went on to become some of the biggest pop culture icons of the ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2009
    abc gone.I lived ealing broadway and went in couple times//feathers pub opposite called something else now..all continental shops etc wine bars ealing b now cosmopolitan..north star pub still there opposite .. old..

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2009
    tony chimes in .the who from acton..adam faith council flat acton..budgie tv acting series....searchers hounslow went to tonys school hounslow lampton grammer....loose women jane mcdonald engaged to her long term.met when young drummer of the searchers . ed his name...we saw them perform hounslow lampton park was great and music bowl bootleg beatles there were excellent and abba revival group t... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2009
    the town house new name for feathers..good site ealing broadway history on google and another there also..double click enlarge photos and next for next pages to hanwell southall etc..hanwell photo 1950.. trams photo...1940 flood ealing common and 1930 common

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 28-Oct-2009
    Appropriate for this thread to be on "Southall Bus Garage" because...........

    l have a photo in a book. The photo is dated about 1954 and it shows a GREEN RT type bus on route 97. When they were first out, there was a shortage of red RT's so a few green ones were lent to Southall garage for a few weeks and were only allowed to work on route 97 which ran exclusively from HW Southall Garage. ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Chris (Member 10220786) on 28-Oct-2009
    ABC Southall - yes Mike - the ABC was next door - I think - to Woolworths. I remember going there with Lily HARPER - Bert's sister in the mid 50's as a special afternoon treat.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 28-Oct-2009
    Hello everyone the ABC was next to the Forum Cinema rhe Southall ABC next to Woolworths as for the money going round in canisters it was Clifon Browns just past Herbert Rd.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2009
    that little old cinema down bond st on right hand side ealing broadway closed for yrs known as flea pit..says 1934 forum.abc cannon empire cinema..we used the big modern cinema uxbridge rd ealing broadway odeon,,best wishes len Hi

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2009
    got the advert page clifton brown//bear and morsley hose..1/11 and half penny pair rayon.....silk 2/11

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2009
    clifton brown high st... and high st f h avery post office baker speciality cakes

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2009
    1936 adverts .easton palace parade school outfitter..willett optician..jersey farm dairy high st....also on history eal broadw site photo palace cinema southall

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2009
    ah fea pit waswalpole picture hse 1912 to 1981 bond st eal broad..facade arch still kept nearby..1sr floor above cinema entrance was abc cafe .....1985 I was there queen visit with lady waiting.black car drew up open new shop mall and unveil bronze sculpture horse called small workhorse

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Oct-2009
    Len, your mention of the "Forum" cinema in Ealing Broadway really took me back. We always used to go there when a big film was being shown. Evidently, it was built in 1934 and was Ealing's last cinema to be built in that period, and is the only one to survive. It is currently under refurbishment, with a re-opening scheduled in 2010. I remember we were in the cinema one evening when the usherette a... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2009
    good historic walks site nice photos..egyptian style forum..palladium opposite north star..been wh smith many yrs now...but was bombed couple yrs ago..but ok now..percival still there weddings on tall steps outside.new civic centre next door..now side large glass entrance staff..new front glass entrance residents.drury lane was good last night .oliver..extrememly good they did not drop icecreams tray luckily

  • Re: southall bus garage by Chris (Member 10220786) on 29-Oct-2009
    Oh..........the FORUM -- first date there with my husnand - I remember it well. I remember seeing Ben Hur...The Great Escape - the Days of Wine & Roses to name but a few. Happy days!!!

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2009
    chris .ben hur recently in the o2 the dome .looks clever how recreat chariot race..sad about charlton heston at the end was good actor

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2009
    says april 1934 uxbridge rd closed off for the opening by jack buchanan.gracie fields first film

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2009
    just remembered the other shoe shop.big corner ealing broadway lilly skinner...skinner was born eaing 1882 family....long boots zip up came in good for snow rain

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Oct-2009
    Thinking about cinemas made me remember the first time I saw a big film on our own. "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" at the Palace in Southall. I was about 10 and my brother was 5, and we had just missed the start of the film.
    No-one was allowed in once it has started, and we waited an eternity until it had finished. It was a very hot day and we queued underneath the shelter on the left-hand si... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    funny how you could miss the start of a film ...and then carry on at the end see the beginning again.torch for the usherette.so long since cinema today forget how it is..try and go see the biggest best films.we went my fair lady .sound of music .leicester sq they boasted of the beginning of quad sound dolby for wonderful music and song..good to see the recent yrs of big films but they have to be... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Oct-2009
    Going back to the Palace Southall - (built in 1929) which is now called The Himalaya, - can anyone remember if it had an organ? I'm pretty sure the Odeon had one, but not sure about the Palace.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    interesting to see..southall paragon palace cinema jan 1912..then 30 nov 1929 the palace...then 13.3,1950 gaumont chinese temple .lanterns.red pagoda roof..all at that busy crowded bus stop at crossroads 3 horseshoes

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    yes it says on google organ at the palace

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    it is the cinema treasures site..says compton 2 manual 6 ranks organ..all pipes in 1 chamber..opened by henry wigfield..remember the red gold dragons facing each other

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    brief encounter film funny organist lady suddenly pops up playing the rising organ at cinema screen

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    irene handl played lady cellest and cinema organ good character actress

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 30-Oct-2009
    What about the Dominion, my mum met my dad there, she used to go there dancing with her sisters, they were good friends with Cleo Laine & Jonny Dankworth, before they became famous.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    neil emery went to tudor rd school .. frith site...he remembers tiny butcher sawdust floor .post office..paul tregessers baker...atlas book newsagent..coombes..moss chemist..roe wet fish shop..fred and rose organ of norwood green..6 pence put in tv set to watch readifusion rumbalow rental terms tv..money in gas electric meter beano comic

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 30-Oct-2009
    Yes Pauline the Palace did have an organ,the Manager was a Mr Nathan I can see him now a dress suit with a black bow tie.after he left believe it or not the next Manager was George Formbys brother his name was Ted Booth up to a few years ago he was in touch with my sister ne lived in High Wycombe I loved your ice cream story.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    len..good item google..ted booth george formby brother .photos...george being james booth..ted 14yrs younger born 1919...ted wife Win blackpool...speaks well of his brother

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    also says passed away oxford 25.2.07 cancer..youngest of 12 babies .only 7 grew up ted youngest.george asthma..formby a town george liked royal name..like biographies interesting.the father died 44yrs 1921

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Oct-2009
    Hi Barrie - we always considered the Dominion to be the classiest of the cinemas. The seats and carpets were posher for a start. I did go dancing with my girlfriend a couple of times there, but once I met my husband the dancing stopped as he hated it!

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 30-Oct-2009
    Hi
    Think your husband a bit like me, my mum & dad, mum's sisters were all good dancers. My late sister was championship level, bronze/silver/gold ballroom dancing/latin the lot. She trained at Ernie Fripp's Dance School Wistowe House, Hayes I have all her medals/trophies etc. sadly she was taken from us in 1992 age 35 with Leukaemia. When I met my wife, 38 years ago she was also a keen dancer and... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 30-Oct-2009
    Yvonne Ted Booth lived opposite us in Abbotts Rd you were right it was Oxford he lived on the Blackleas Estate The first film at the Odeon was 'Pennies from Heaven' with Bing Crosby the Dominion was opened by Gracie Fields 1935 we enjoyed dancing there then going across to the Victory for a drink a Gin and Tonic sixpence a pint of beer fourpence and then you had a arrowroot biscuit.

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 30-Oct-2009
    Meant to say Pauline, have a look at some of my photos on hayesmiddlesex.com click on photos, my username is The Sceenyclan, my birth name, or instead of clicking on photos click on Features, you will see the first half of an article I put together a few years back entitled Hayes in the 50's & 60's, might bring back a few memories.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 30-Oct-2009
    Barry you mentioned the EMI sports club in Printing House Lane I am afraid it is now owned by Asians I actually passed it to-night(Friday) the Blue Anchor all boarded up sad times of the day.

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Oct-2009
    The old BEA sporta & social club, on Ruislip Road near Northolt Airport is now also owned by asians. This was the sports and social club when, after the war BEA flew from Northolt before Heathrow was ready for scheduled flights. Does anyone know if there are any photographs of the old Heath Row village still in existance?? The Three Magpies pub and the Peggy Bedford 2 ancient coaching pubs on... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 30-Oct-2009
    Yes I know Len;-I was born and bred around there, Hayes is not like it used to be, a little further along, what were the EMI Offices are I think sheltered housing of a type. While right opposite the Blue Anchor used to stand a row of old cottages, which when I were a lad in the early 50's were derelict, we used to muck about in them. Across the bridge on the right was Clayton Road School. Used to ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    len I liked all bing films...4 p pint.last night £3 pint just off covent garden pub after oliver show..never went dominion..could walk easy to other 2..we used take bus to havelock cemet..they used to cycle over bridge for work over there....bus stop outside chinese temple cinema was always crowded busy several buses and traffic lights conjestion

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 30-Oct-2009
    Hi Keith;-Am sure the Three Magpies is still there, don't think the Peggy Bedford is now. You could get a copy of Philip Sherwoods' book 'Around Heathrow Past & Present' Philip is the Editor of Hayes & Harlington History Society, it has some brilliant photos in it, he lives at Harlington, you could e.mail him at psherwood@waitrose.com or if you don't have any luck e.mail me at barry.raymond@blueyo... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    keith my husbands dad and family always lived by the old land of heathrow.the magpies etc etc 1800s 1900s...photos would be hounslow central library local hist dept high st..dad went boac club bottom of cranford lane...estate offices opp northolt airport was bea....northolt all new now refurbished gates receptions offices buildings 2 yrs now been building..queens flight..helicopters etc

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    keith its where bealine house used to be ..called odysee business park now plenty modern offices down there..new total garage opposite entrance rd now..as edge of northolt airport nato..little white private jets go in.some yrs ago one crashed off runway into van rush hour on western ave...military aircraft...and queen birthday balcony fly past 4 or 5 formations concorde once... red arrows..then... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 30-Oct-2009
    Back to Southall, could Len or anyone else help me out with something, I had an uncle who for many years worked at Victoria Sawmills up near Woolfs Rubber Factory. The story we heard of how he met his wife was that he was living in digs in Southall and was injured (slighty concused) during a bombing in the vicinity of either the Dominion or the Manor House his future wife was the ambulance driver ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    yes sure 3 magpies there listed building....aircrews used to use it always many yrs.....aerial hotel cicular on corner///yes think peggy bedford gone

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 30-Oct-2009
    Peggy Bedford now a McDonald's like the Target pub also the Greenford hotel near the Iron Bridge.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 30-Oct-2009
    Barry the nearest place that was bombed near the Manor House was Regina Rd,the story could be true the sawmill became Davis woodyard the drill hall is where we use to go to the fair and watch Dare Devil Peggy dive in to a tank of water he had one leg.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    len .nice to see queens head ok cranford lane...400yrs old rebuilt 1930 and jolly gardeners there if still surviving..ancestors came from area

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    len never guess.peggy one leg skegness high dive to sea at pier on google..father and son team leslie father had one hand..dive off pier .father in burning sack

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 30-Oct-2009
    Thanks for the info Len re:the bombing, thought if anyone would know you would, great, would you be able to put a year to it ? I put a message on the other day re:James Davis timber yard when it suffered the huge fire, can't remember the exact year, probably late 50's early 60's I was in the St. Ambulance Brigade at the time 55 Div. Southall me an some pals went to watch, never seen anything like ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    len pauline all....bbc memories site..gina james and friend yvonne age 11 to 17 southall war...ran school early morning uxbridge rd lived off broadway..they started to organise dances seagull sprung floor ..sax good..tyres at rubber works always seemed to set alight at raids..

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 30-Oct-2009
    Barry on Tuesday afternoon on 30th August 1944 a V1 fell on Regina Rd./Adelaide Rd.one person killed and 34 seriously injured and forty slightly injured Ealing suffered the worst bombing

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Oct-2009
    THANK YOU for the info

    What a wonderful thread this is. Some towns like Ealing only get about 6 postings ever YEAR

    This Southall thread is now getting double that in just on... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Oct-2009
    Keith - just for the record - we had 32 postings today!!!

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2009
    keith.lot on history heathrow on goole and photos

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 30-Oct-2009
    In 1944 I was enroute to the USA on board the Queen Mary To form a squadron for the Fleet Air Arm on board was Fred Astaire, Bing Crosby, and a actor called Frank Sully I spent a month in NY we went to the Stage Door Canteen where stars came to entertain us saw Frank Sinatra I was just gone eighteen what memories.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Oct-2009
    that is the best len astaire big and to hear sinatra sing 1944 that was the best...how wonderful...you did not disturb to get signature suppose .would be amazing autograph but best probably not disturb..queen mary..there such memory well done

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Oct-2009
    woops old key board jumps.meant bing of course..after 6th form worked .bbc tv white city..very grateful lovely years saw studios and in lifts and at club bar and restaurant.mohicans in costume with lulu top voice chatting..ron corbitt in lift shock so short but polite reserve so not dare ask anybody autograph nobody did .it was quiet just to watch it all.marvellous interesting.neighbours of frien... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 31-Oct-2009
    Thanks Len for the date of the bombing in Southall, only expected the year, but you excelled and gave me the date/day and time! brilliant.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2009
    regina rd bombing..my relative gordon rd off there..she was born in the house 1920 to recent yrs still there.hetherington...and adelaide rd just off was salvation army citadel..my gt aunts officers 1900s as they lived nearby just off old oak bridge beginning northhyde rd.northhyde district whole area called northhhyde under parish heston was from southall lane/was tently tentlow lane// as its bor... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Nov-2009
    Thanks Barry for your hayesmiddlesex.com site. I did look at 'Features' and it did bring back some memories. The 'Hole in the wall' hit me, as I certainly remember that, but I also remember a little theatre. I think it was around where Station road and Coldharbour lane met. This was around 1950/56. They put shows on - I can see two male artistes who were very well known doing their turn shuffling ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 3-Nov-2009
    Pauline the theatre was called The Regent in Pump Lane Wilkinson's are there now

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 3-Nov-2009
    Pauline the three artiste were Wilson,Keppel,and Betty

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Nov-2009
    Thanks for that Len. Yes, that's it, but I don't remember Betty. Mind you, it's a long time ago!
    I've just watched their act on U-tube, but it's probably an old act.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 3-Nov-2009
    Pauline all she did was to sprinkle the sand. Len

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Nov-2009
    Evidently, on Google, it says that Wilson & Keppel performed their routine "Cleopatra's Nightmare' in Berlin in 1936, and it was condemned by Josef Goebbels as indecent!! They also appeared at the London Palladium in 1950 on the same bill as Frank Sinatra.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2009
    some of our top stars have copied their famous dance on tv and the palladium shows

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2009
    hole wall hayes has florist...landmark people always said and the term used was hole in wall osterley..behind the tube station..high wall of osterley park..just old wood door in it....and through like secret garden...ancient public footpath both directions .one way side into the mansion hse..other way to back heston church so short cut to my house..path along huge fields and vegetable field ploughed

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2009
    site ..osterley rufc ...long item...but towards end he speaks of hole in wall jersey rd...and in great detail osterley sport club tentlow lane..especially 8 yrs packed jazz club.turnover £250 a time..humphrey lyttleton.acker..k.ball..c barber..etc...we had a free jazz session at the new barbican opened back of st pauls...ronnie scott played and jokes and his drummer amazing and all the songs was good..

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Nov-2009
    In the 1950's the 'Hole-in-the-Wall' was a flourishing greengrocers in Station road, Hayes. There was always a long queue as they were so popular. The florist, with the same name is now in Uxbridge road.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 3-Nov-2009
    Pauline still can't place the greengrocers Hayes as changed I have been in the same house thirty three years we have a 99p shop where Woolworhs was, not a safe place to venture out at night we had a drive by shooting last Saturday six doors away thought it was fireworks they have built a Hotel complex next to the Station.

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Nov-2009
    There was definitely a "Hole in the Wall" greengrocers either in Greenford (in Greenford Road {west side} near Granada cinema) or in Uxbridge Road, West Ealing

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 3-Nov-2009
    Pauline it's come to me now The Hole in The Wall must be getting senile.

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 3-Nov-2009
    Hi Len & co.;-The Hole in the Wall green grocers was on the west side of Station Rd just along from the main P.O. Incidently my dad was a greengrocer for many years mainly with Gerrards but in the late 50's early 60's was manager of Alex greengrocers in Coldharbour Lane near the pet shop. I used to help out there after school on Friday night and all day Saturday, mainly tearing up newspaper and ha... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2009
    greenford rd west side as what was granada cinema now tesco...greengrocer just know as THE stall long stall..must be one of the longest most enduring continuous places still there for so many years now goes back as far as...who remembers...probably 1940 1930..wonder who owned it or manages..used to rely good quality fresh good price

  • Re: southall bus garage by josie (Member 10235627) on 3-Nov-2009
    Hole in the wall by the traffic lights in greenford still there but now owned by Asians,previous owner had another Hole in the Wall shop where the buses turned opposite where the old Greenford Market was also another in West Ealing opposite BHS which was set back from the road,Granada Cinema in Greenford has been a Tesco for a long time.regards josie.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    yes josie think went in grananda when it was ending was that about end 60s...yes just remembered that greengrocer opposite indoor market greenford.covered greengrocer tucked into that wall area there on the right..west ealing also had those little fruit stalls top of few rds on the left up by the green lido...best wishes josie...covered market had couple little toy bits..I had the perforated dol... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 4-Nov-2009
    Hello Josie The Hole in The Wall was owned by my cousins son Derek Costin you were right about the one in Ealing again Derek owned that sadly he died a few years ago his Son took it over my sister still goes to the one in Greenford where Tescos is was the Granada another cinema was the Playhouse in Ruislip Rd.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    nice on google.playhouse greenford opened 1932 .910 seats.closed 12 sept 1959 with victor mature in big circus.before it was electric theatre 1914..so ruislip rd east

  • Re: southall bus garage by josie (Member 10235627) on 4-Nov-2009
    Hello Len Yvonne, another previous owner of The Hole In The Wall was a family from Norwood Green their name was Puddle,my aunt was married to a Roper Puddle they had a stall by the White Hart or in and around that area where ever they could get away with it,Len where was The Playhouse.regards Josie.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    hello josie.just read jubilee lirary they hope to reopen as part health centre jan 2010..just had email from shire horse centre chalfont st peter .says no longer open..shire horse and animals always good at open air museum chalfont

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 4-Nov-2009
    Hello Josie yes the Puddles are still around they have a stall on the corner of Leeland Rd West Ealing Martin Puddle is a porter at Ealing Hosp. lives in Dormers Wells Lane there were the Wilkinsons lived in Shirley Gdns.Hanwell the Playhouse was in Ruislip Rd.opposite Lidli Len

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    len thought that might be the side of the playhouse as the tall roofs chimney buildings there old..the old shoe repair shop in that bit of shops been there for so many yrs..they all get off bus by bridge now that the new lidl there now opposite.... lidl , the funeral parlour side.always was bank on corner.round to fish shop and post office.catholic school .... council dump..that tiny old sweet s... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by josie (Member 10235627) on 4-Nov-2009
    Hello Len,Betty Wilkinson was afriend of my Mother also my aunt Annie who married to Roper Puddle,Wilkinson's also lived in Allemby rd Southall.Passed thru West Ealing Hanwell and Greenford last weekend very sad all looking run down.regards Josie.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    yes josie went through those areas and it all week ago and was run down.still quite nice courtfield gardens and up castlebar

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    scotch common w5 and duke kent pub still seems june 2009 still ok there.high so views wembly stadium.and common parks nice..the river that runs behind tennis courts scotch common park actually saw tiny sapphire blue kingfisher bobbing on branch looking fish fast flow there.I used to use baker and little row shops and was library there..but lunch break acton high st used to get main groceries cheaper

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Nov-2009
    Acton W5 took me back. My aunt and uncle, who lived in 1st Avenue, Acton had to be dug out of their air-raid shelter after a blitz one night during the war. Their neighbours, unfortunately, were killed outright in their shelter. I wouldn't have remembered the date, but the road is listed in October 1940 in "Ealing, Acton & Southall At War" by Dennis Upton.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    husbands aunt uncle lived horn lane many yrs bricknell..mary arthur.michael pat children went catholic school up eaton rise.1974 I worked teach train college right of high st just before regist off town hall library..nice little market in hollow like us a hollow nearby on right..

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2009
    bbc peoples war site is well done....mr mrs lewis of dairy acton w3 avenue killed

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 4-Nov-2009
    Len;-
    Yesterday while talking about the hole in the Wall at Hayes I mentioned the two sisters who ran the pet shop in Cloldharbour lane and who lived in the White House which used to stand on the Lamb Bridge in front of the RSPCA, Ruby, a rather portly lady and Sis. I have been trying to think of their surname and Cooper seems to ring a bell. Would that be right Len, I'm talking the 50's/60's here.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 5-Nov-2009
    Barry I am afraid you have got me on this one you mentioned the Lamb bridge are we talking about the pub in Norwood Green which is opposite the RSPCA I was a Postman in Hayes in 1956 retired 1986 and knew most of the shops in Hayes town one in particular was Payne's also did you know the Post Office is now in W H Smiths the Town as gone down hill.

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 5-Nov-2009
    Hi Len;-As you approach the Lamb Bridge (Norwood) coming from the Wolf, as you hit the top of the bridge you turn left to access the RSPCA right on the corner as you turned used to be a big old house known as 'The White House' not sure if it was both or just one of the sisters Ruby and Sis who lived there. As I said they owned the pet shop in Coldharbour Lane . Just looked in an old Kemps I have a... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 5-Nov-2009
    Thanks Barry I do remember the photographer vaguely the pet shop I still live in Hayes off the North Hyde Rd,half of my life in Southall and here in Hayes,regarding the RSPCA I was there to get a cat it is a private road did you know the Wolf was boarded up I am afraid my age group have passed on I will all ways have fond memories of Southall.

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 5-Nov-2009
    Yes I agree Len Hayes like Southall is no longer as it used to be. Came down Dawley Road two days ago and noticed the old Hamborough Tavern at the foot of Bournes Bridge is now boarded up. Dont know what they are going to do there but there is a very large container skip in the car park. I was born and bred in Hayes, Rowan Place. near the football ground. All my mothers side of the family came fro... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Nov-2009
    We had our wedding photographs done by Frank Barry in Hayes, and our wedding cars by someone else in the town (can't remember the name). I can see whereabouts the Photographer's shop was, but numbers don't mean anything. It was on the same side as the Post Office, but further up the road. Maybe opposite the Regent Theatre? There was another little road in between where the Library was and a littl... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 5-Nov-2009
    Hi Pauline;-
    The Post Office was in Station Road, opposite Wollies, if you went back towards and past the Regent, thats where Station Rd ends. You then have Botwell Lane to the left, and Pump Lane on the right, the continuing road then becomes Coldharbour Lane, Frank Barry was lets say about 500 yards or so down on the left. If you come back to the beginning of Botwell Lane along here was the Bow... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Nov-2009
    Thanks Barry. It took me a while to sort it out in my head, but it was Botwell Lane where we used to make for in our lunch hours at times, and it must have been the Bowling Green where we used to sit. There was a small group of shops on the right hand side, one of which was a cake shop! I only lived in Hayes for two years, and Southall is the place where I have the clearest memories. A lovely litt... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2009
    opp bowling botwell lane husbands baptism catholic big church there..elaborate certificate ..only 2 yrs lodging mrs bradley and 2 daughters warley rd up by cinema eszeldo or something .I saw west side story there.....father not long home from war.moved to feltham....

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 6-Nov-2009
    Hi Yvonne;-There were two cinemas on the Uxbridge Rd. one the Essoldo just along from Shakespeare Ave, saw all the first JamesBond films there, later became Bingo Hall, Waitrose was later next door. The other cinema was the Corinth between Gledwood Drive and Lansbury Drive, the big shop and office block (Colman House) now occupies the site. That was known as the fleapit or bug house, it was always so cold in there.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2009
    thanks for info..looked up the spelling yes essoldo..apparently they bought savoy 1957...1962 bingo..closed 1967..1972 called classic opened twiggy boyfriend above waitrose then taken over by lidl..says classic closed with full hse back to future film..tony and I saw that torrential rain afternoon bristol on holiday glocestershire.to be honest he saw it one screen I saw another film I liked other ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Nov-2009
    I was thinking back to when we were younger and wanted to see a film at the local 'pictures' as we called them. If there was an 'A' film on accompanying the 'U' we wouldn't be allowed in without an adult as we were under age. What we all used to do was to ask someone to take us in. It was always a couple, and never anyone on their own. We gave them our money for the tickets and once inside we woul... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2009
    this week noticed the forum compton organ ealing w5.1962 taken to wormwood scrubs prison chapel

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Nov-2009
    I didn't envisage that Wormwood Scrubs would ever crop up in my life again. When I was very young, sometimes I used to stay with my Grandmother and her family who lived in Oxford Gardens, N. Kensington. My aunts would take me on walks, and often we would go past Wormwood Scrubs prison. I know that I didn't like going past it because my aunts used to tell me that the nasty people were all in there!... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2009
    going on central line tube most part of my life ..always view of big giant front doors scrubs and the high walls...ducane rd hammersmith cancer and heart hospital just before it.... get the 105 bus home to greenford along western ave from ducane///..views from train..horsenden hill greenford and old wembly stadium twin towers and now big new arch..views..up on horsendon..kites and view down on wem... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2009
    those who went pictures in heyday..queue round the block...70 yrs wizard oz today..cost couple million..copies made distribute all countries...did they ever repeat..bring it back cinema in 5yrs time for next lot of children to see...1939 8 oscares....cut over rainbow at first then put it back in..long film..feb 4th 1940 oscars ceremory..gone wind several big films that yr

  • Re: southall bus garage by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 8-Nov-2009
    Reading Pauline's memories of U and A certificates at the cinema I believe there was also an X cert. My friend and I were desperate to see The House of Wax showing at the old Gem (the fleapit) She borrowed? some of her mums lippy and rouge and we made up in the telephone kiosk at the top of our road.I think we were probably about 15 at the time.I was shaking in my shoes when she asked for the tick... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Nov-2009
    Dilys, you are right. The grades were "C" "U" "A" & "X"

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Nov-2009
    I'm pretty sure there were no X rated films at the time I was talking about, i.e. early 1940's. I don't even remember C's either then. I think Dilys is a lot younger than me!

  • Re: southall bus garage by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 8-Nov-2009
    Thanks Keith, I thought it was an X cert. Can't remember how old you were supposed to be to get in for X though. Obviously older than 15.lol.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 8-Nov-2009
    Pauline, This would have been around 1955-56 I think

  • Re: southall bus garage by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 8-Nov-2009
    Just had another memory flash. Same friend and I wanted to see "The Robe" which was showing at the Granada Greenford but we didn't have quite enough money even for the cheap seats. Scurried round trying to find any of our mums empty Domestos bottle coz you got money back on them in those days. Made enough in the end although we had to walk there and back.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Nov-2009
    Just looked up Google:
    1913 - 1932 U and A
    1932 - 1951 U A and H
    1951 - 1970 U A and X

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Nov-2009
    Dilys - we were the same as you - always looking for ways to get the extra money together for the flicks. A great aunt of ours had left a load of old books to us, and we used to beg my mum to let us take a few up to John's the bookshop to sell! Also, looking down the back of the settee to see if any coins might have dropped down there. Happy days!

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Nov-2009
    H stood for "Hoffific" lt became "X" to cater for all films thought unfit for children and adolescents

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Nov-2009
    Typo error on previous - - l meant "Horrific" of course

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2009
    what age was x..15 ..16....only once some horror thing in 60s granada greenford went underage

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2009
    think my male cousin said some of the boys got in odeon uxbridge rd southall opposite the pub.....in via the side doors if they could use money for sweets instead 50s 60s

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Nov-2009
    Going back to the 'pictures'. According to my brother it was quite exciting when they 'bunked in'. If you are not familiar with this term, it means getting in without paying. Sometimes it was possible to squeeze in unnoticed at the end of a programme, but on other occasions four or five of them would pool their coppers together to raise the price of one ticket and open the exit doors quietly to le... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2009
    yes my male cousin said side fire exit doors they got in so they could spend money on sweets..southall sweet shop next door to cinema uxbridge rd...they have just said conkers banned health safety...vinigar put them in low oven harden them ..the boys had lot fun...kids cannot go out much. . safety...this time yr ealing common huge trees had loads conkers

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2009
    so bunk in..into cinema..bunking off not to go into school Ha...bet man came round the streets yrs ago after truants...uncle fred 1920s never out of canal swimming bunking off skive.spikes bridge and play harmonica with gypsies over fields there..comb tissue play tune and play spoons

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Nov-2009
    There was a guy who used to cycle around the streets of Hanwell. He was known as "the School Board Man" and his job was purely to see if there were any kids out in the street during term time. He may have been employed by the Borough of Ealing and might have had more of the borough to cover than just Hanwell. Quite a heavy man so the cycling probably did him good.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2009
    pauline your 1937 snow white..today redone digitaly enhanced DVD looks good...today lady has created large pictures of s white...and another of dwarfs...apples....look marvellous honestly...food edible pictures art....red ..green .apples inside for flesh face etc...black currants for hair...stuck on with puree and pips ...sprayed with loads lemmon juice to keep it from going brown...seen sho... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2009
    what yrs was that keith..always good see picture of what yrs...recent times they put mum in prison for continual teenager would not be present at school.dont think she had any money for a fine.one parent family council flat

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Nov-2009
    Pauline 1954-63

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Nov-2009
    Sorry, Yvonne, l meant "Yvonne" and not Pauline. (Busy day here today and more work has come into this office than went out!!)

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 9-Nov-2009
    On the subject of the 'pictures', being born in Hayes we used to go Saturday morning pictures at the Ambassador which stoodat the end of East Avenue, junction Coldharbour Lane. Mum gave us half a crown, we used to stop on theway in the 'Handy Shop' also in East Ave, get a few 1/2d shrimps and blackjacks or flying saucers, 9d to go in the pictures and still have change from half a crown. They used ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 9-Nov-2009
    I remember the sing-a-longs at Saturday morning pictures which took place before the film started.Most remembered one is " Oh no John" and all the kids used to shout this out. This was at The Palace Southall.

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 9-Nov-2009
    Those were the days Dilys, kids today don't know they're born do they

  • Re: southall bus garage by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 9-Nov-2009
    You are right there Barry. They were such innocent times although hard for some of us but I really think we were happier than a lot of today's youngsters or am I looking back through rose coloured specs?

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2009
    thanks keith interesting yr...sat cinema odeon opposite pub uxb rd..we sang clementine..they put words huge on screen ..if film broke,,they set left side against right side who could sing loudest

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2009
    husband just found BFI site films 1927///youtube.boingboing....color...spelt that way...beefeaters tower london mutton for dinner..hyde pk corner..piccadily..cagney in blood in sun....test at oval 1926..close ups..loads faces on ve ..vj day london american crowds...dutch garden lake canal kensington gdns..open top buses..london bridge..open bus now 20 pound they complain today...cart with men in ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 9-Nov-2009

    No you are right Dilys, we did seem happier then not so stresfull like nowadays. Although as you rightly say things were harder, not the luxuries like the kids today take for granted. Would not say we were poor, but even in the early 50's some things were still rationed. I rememember mum getting Fussels condensed milk, watering it down to make a jug full. Don't think we ever had butter always ma... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Nov-2009
    Fussell's condensed milk!!! Can you still buy it?? That is what they had in the cabins on the narrow boats

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Nov-2009
    My brother and I used to go regularly to the Odeon in Southall on a Saturday morning. One morning they showed a film - I believe it was called "The Ugly Duckling". There was a competition after the film for two different age groups to write a story about the film. We both wrote one, and sent them in. My brother, who was seven, won the first prize in his age group, and had to walk on to the stage t... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2009
    well done prize..funny to think of 1000s kids saturdays.my male cousin yr younger and I went every saturday.lived opposite each other..sometimes cut around the back by north rd school..he always used to see meet boy friends..always running tearing off..saw him in cinema later..he was mad arry as aunts would say..back alleys ran along back gardens west ave etc...matches mad keen on trying to light ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 10-Nov-2009
    Yes, l was born 1947 and everybody of that generation wanted to have a cowboy outfit, "cap" firing pistol etc. They were normal to see then, but when did you last see one on a child?

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2009
    he had gun stap around waist...jacks,,,five stones..marbles..conkers..hop scotch on pavement..also with film star name in each pavement..munroe etc..white chalk think colour box chalks also.hoola hoop came in skates he tore around the block on rollerskates..

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2009
    keith..google..frith memories site is good..hanwell west ealing etc under greater london ealing..takes little bit to just enter member..free and then quick easy just read all memories..9...then another 6 and then more

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Nov-2009
    In our days, it was after Errol Flynn in "Robin Hood" that all the boys had bows and arrows! They all made them themselves, and some of them were pretty good.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2009
    robin hood was about only tv programme when we first had 1958..lorn greene...still like the song...news .palladium..william tell...77 sunset strip and wagon train..not lot else..tv 3pm liked bill ben andy pandy

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 10-Nov-2009
    Hi Keith;-
    It seems you are two years older than me, your talk of cowboy outfits is sure bringing back the memories. Back in the 50's in Hayes there was always the Irish Fair at Botwell Church, usually about June, you had to pay to enter. Anyway one particular year was a western theme and if children went dressed as either a cowboy or indian they got in free. I had my cherished Davy Crockett outf... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 10-Nov-2009
    Barry yes, l rememember there was a bit of a Davy Crockett fad in the mid 50's due to a song or film. All of us about 7 yrs old. One kid cut his mum's fur coat up to have beaver tail look.

  • Re: southall bus garage by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 10-Nov-2009
    What memories eh Keith, didn't need computers or game stations then did we. On the mention of cap pistols, do you remember the small 'rocket bombs' you could get, they were weighted at the tip, put couple of caps in the end and drop them. What about all the other 'toy' which are deemed dangerous nowadays like pea shooters catapaults and the dreaded stink bombs, the favourite was on the top deck of... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 10-Nov-2009
    Yes l remember the rocket bombs. Plastic. Mostly, but not always, green

  • Re: southall bus garage by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 10-Nov-2009
    How did we all manage to survive with all those dangerous toys and pastimes?

  • Re: southall bus garage by Chris (Member 10220786) on 10-Nov-2009
    Caps - yes even I had them. I used to get mine from the INTEREST SHOP near to Chaplins the Corn Merchant between The School Passage & the Town Hall. What about SPUD GUNS - do you remember them?? My husband wishes he had his now so he could frighten the Squirells that eat the nuts he puts out for the birds in our garden.

    Do you remember McClouds the Ladies Hair-dressers along the same block o... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Nov-2009
    Chris - tip I copied from the Daily Mail as I am a bird lover with the occasional squirrel. RSPB said add chilli powder to the seed mix or nuts. Don't hide the chilli but put it in a bag with the mix or nuts and shake it up. Apparently, it doesn't affect the birds at all. You can also use curry powder, tabasco, red pepper and cayenne pepper if you haven't any chilli powder.
    Make sure the seed mix... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2009
    chris..how about the catapults they had to scare off your squirrel///we have walnut tree in street at gate..so constant bury nuts in lawn and flower pots will try your powder chris and pauline..they climb all over apple tree..drink water out of low bird bath as does fox and cat and birds/

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2009
    chris..how about the catapults they had to scare off your squirrel///we have walnut tree in street at gate..so constant bury nuts in lawn and flower pots will try your powder chris and pauline..they climb all over apple tree..drink water out of low bird bath as does fox and cat and birds/

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Nov-2009
    cinema 3D..just picked up free 3d glasses sainsbury tub full...tues mon fri next week tv queen coronation 3D....frith s harrow site memories..says lord sutch and granada there 60s ..johnny kidd pirates ...high numbers group/people used to say who? so they called themselves the who...mods...hollies all at granada northolt rd beatles..roy orbison.gene pitney manfred man.kinks...gaumont had tom j... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by josie (Member 10235627) on 11-Nov-2009
    Hello Yvonne,saw PJ Proby at Southall Community Centre..regards Josie.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Nov-2009
    josie.make you laugh..it is on frith south harrow site..tom jones 1st tour..he had to replace proby born houston texas....because proby offended by his tight trousers would rip on stage..went commun centre once my best friend crank..dormers and her sister venerbles ballet dance school top lady marg rd by town hall age 3yrs old...did copellia ballet age 12 in mirror twin sisters looked like reflect... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Nov-2009
    josie just seen about 1965 him touring..went torquay after southall..just before s harrow he split his pants so they would not have him...google has loads tours..all their names..so busy top 20 was..dormers was obsessed with all their names songs..we knew them all..sunday afternoon I taped 4pm radio 2 top 10 grundig tape recorder xmasand birthpresent..microphone the girls mucked about singing pop ... more >>

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Nov-2009
    saturday morning picture..michael caine of elephant and castle..says he bunked in age 3...called 3 penny rush....lone ranger....my cousin dressed up that as well with mask 1950s

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Nov-2009
    inflation or cheaper parts of country..google has 1930s 1950s sat morn pictures... . penny rush...3 penny rush....4penny rush....tanner rush.....think we were the 6 pence rush 1950s...hoppalong by them all different prices..red lolly with icecream bit half way down..manager brylcream in dinner suit....kiaora juice..as the loud music adverts blared uot from screen tunes

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Nov-2009
    Greg Dyke - late of the BBC - said he lived in Hayes, but used to go to Saturday morning pictures in Southall until the cinema got turned into s Bingo Hall!

  • Re: southall bus garage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Nov-2009
    lsn't he still a director of Brentford F C ??

  • Re: southall bus garage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Nov-2009
    According to Google he is. Not being a Brentford supporter, I didn't know he was.

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Nov-2009
    3D..hope you enjoyed coronation etc....tues fri sat also..we went up there for gold coach 50th golden to st pauls..she was nice..we were at pavement..we went during night fireworks..newspaper 2am and big white dress wedding diana charles by st pauls......

  • Re: southall bus garage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Nov-2009
    SEEMS THAT 1950s 3D only worked very well when boys came right up to camera with the QUEEN...then they jump out at you..depth of vision...tues fri saturday.....but they did try them a bit at cinema

  • Re: southall bus garage by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 17-Mar-2011
    Someone said there wasn't a Lyons shop in West Ealing, my mother worked there in 54-55 in the kitchen, washing dishes, and also I had a friend who used to deliver those lovely cream sponges there on a Saturday

 
Gerry Cakebread by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 28-Sep-2009
For those of you who knew Gerry Cakebread, I am very saddened to tell you that I have just heard that he passed away on 16th September, at his home in Taunton.
Gerry was a lovely guy, and a very talented goalkeeper, though very modest about his abilities. He went to Southall Grammar circa 1947-1953, and played for Brentford for a number of years.
Sorry, but I don't have any more details.
  
  • Re: Gerry Cakebread by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 1-Oct-2009
    I can't recall him David I knew'Chic' Brodie Brentford goalkeeper I had my e-mail scammed by some Nigerian lost all my contacts.
    leonard.goddard@yahoo.co.uk

  • Re: Gerry Cakebread by pat walden (Member 10236204) on 19-Oct-2009
    Sorry to hear about Gerry. He was quite a heartthob in our year at SGS. Would like to hear from David (Cavell) whether the Old Southallians group is now defunct or not. If it is I would like to thank him for all his efforts to arrange past reunions and wish him well. Best wishes. Pat Walden (1948)

  • Re: Gerry Cakebread by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 14-Nov-2009
    Hi Pat,
    The SGS was "migrated" to Multiply, from MSN (not by our choice), but, unfortunately the members were not migrated with the site, so, unfortunately, to all intents and purposes, the site is "dead".
    However, I think that there have been a number of "spin-offs" with mini reunions of different age groups.
    Rosalie (Perry, as was), and subsequently John Harman organises an annual lunch for o... more >>

  • Re: Gerry Cakebread by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Nov-2009
    if john harman was of southall grammer.....may well be his sister was val harman..she passed a level art english literature...ent to bbc tv centre with me..she was secretary.....they lived houses off uxbridge rd opposite dormers wells lane...val left 6th form with me 1966...she was in my A stream 6yrs...best wishes to her if of john......have photos of her with all students last day photos

  • Re: Gerry Cakebread by Del (Member 10230525) on 14-Dec-2009

    Gerry lived in Marlbourgh rd half way down in the odd numbers.I used to talk to him a lot.

  • Re: Gerry Cakebread by Del (Member 10230525) on 12-Mar-2010

    Very sad to hear that, he was a true gentlemen and a damn fine goalkeeper.

 
looking at the past by davo (Member 10030212) on 13-Sep-2009
Heres another one to get teary over http://heritage.ukvillages.co.uk/old_pictures/Southall-Greater%20London
Cheers Dave C
  
  • Re: looking at the past by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2009
    thanks davo..also uk old photos site middx.wyndham series postcards.aec society site..frith..

 
1950s by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2009
your memories white cty estate etc.is long good site.with 105 bus to southall.and 607 to shep bush we seemed close to them.I heard plenty of cockney expressions growing up.they have VE day party.my family went dog racing there.on leaving 6th form,I went bbc tv built there.photos and tony brothers the Italian of acton van with crowd children around.etc   
 
Trevor Bayliss by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Sep-2009
I have just been watching the one o'clock news on BBC1, when to my surprise, there was an item featuring Trevor Bayliss, the Southall born inventor. He looked in good shape I am pleased to say.   
  • Re: Trevor Bayliss by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Oct-2009
    l saw him the other day. He now lives on Eel Pie Island, Twickenham

  • Re: Trevor Bayliss by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Oct-2009
    he has lived there some years now..another family couple live as his neighbours there.they were all on tv few mths ago..was eel pie where music nights were rolling stones etc.he has so often been on tv

  • Re: Trevor Bayliss by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2009
    rolling stones ealing broadway and richmond..and famous goings on across bridge to eel pie island in thames rock music gigs etc

 
evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2009
sept today st pauls the were children at st pauls..didanybody have friends,,23 west ave 2 cousins went marg pam ackers.nan would not let john go..they were 4, 3 yrs old..southall did not seem bad enough.phony war expression..quickly got them back..they were not gone long   
  • Re: evacuees by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 1-Sep-2009
    On Sept. 3rd I stood at the top of Alexandria Ave.when the siren went it was a warm sunny day I was fourteen at the time there was an ice cream Man call Eldorado he gave all the ice cream away and pedalled like hell up the Uxbridge Rd.

  • Re: evacuees by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 1-Sep-2009
    Sept.3rd 1939. When the siren started, a lady fainted on the green between our house and The Plough in North Road

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Sep-2009
    As I've mentioned before on this site I was 8yrs old in the Municipal Sports ground in the playground with my brother, 6 and a half. When the siren sounded all the children ran home and some parents came to fetch them as well. My brother would not come off the slide and my father eventually came running over to get us. When we got indoors all the curtains were closed, and we sensed the danger as children.

  • Re: evacuees by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Sep-2009

    So today we get to the 70th anniversary of the outbreak of WW2. Those of us that lived in Southall will be thinking of people they knew who were killed in air raids, as well as relatives killed in action. I know of two people who lost older brothers.Some, such as Len Goddard saw active service themselves.
    Let us not forget

  • Re: evacuees by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 3-Sep-2009
    Yes Mike it was a day to remember one friend I lost lived in West Ave. killed by The Japs in Singapore I often think was it worth it looking round the country to-day.

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2009
    southall wikipedia site .at the end there is a list of references..born 1926 mr stonestreet doodlebug went over his head and went further at norwood green.wonder if that was the one that landed springwell rd heston.my family elderly man on way work on bike there suffered direct hit.no body to bury.he and his brother were somme and came back.ref list has greyarnold account arnold dewey on google do... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Sep-2009
    Thanks for that Yvonne, a thoroughly good read. Loved the bus route all around familiar places! But where was Southall garage? I know where Hanwell garage was, but not Southall.

  • Re: evacuees by Chris (Member 10220786) on 4-Sep-2009
    Southall Bus Garage was almost opposite /st Bernards Hosp - on the left after going under THE IRON BRIDGE towards Hanwell.

  • Re: evacuees by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Sep-2009

    Southall Garage was formerly(i.e in my day!) Hanwell Garage-my late father was a bus conductor there

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2009
    pauline it was just left under iron bridge opposite hanwell asylum.the film shows large letters concrete top of garage says southall.I waited at bus stop saw buses pull out of there..hanwell garage was in middle hanwell high st on right....hanwell took over as main garage ..southall closed .has been carpet warehouse etc since..best wishes pauline

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2009
    iron bridge brunel southall.just went to staines family tree work and their iron bridge actually has words largely printed across bridge..always conjestion under ours those funny awkward lanes to get in and then try get off down aec windmill lane..worse when traffic turned straight down greenford rd.many yrs now they try to take off some conjestion by taking traffic down to dormers wells lane and ... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 5-Sep-2009
    Buses my Dad like Micheal's was a bus driver at Hanwell garage I can never understand why it was called Hanwell I always thought the boundary was Brent bridge we have Ealing hospital the post code is UB which means it comes under Southall I can remember all the buses being parked in the road along the side of St Bernard's.
    All the buses are now stationed in a depot in the Greenford Road.

  • Re: evacuees by Ron Cox (Member 10234401) on 6-Sep-2009
    My mother worked in the canteen of Hanwell Bus Depot, although it was in Southall, between 1941&1945 and most likely served both Michaels and Lens fathers.
    The Hanwell Bus Depot was in the Hanwell high street and was as I remembered the Trolley Bus Depot. I would catch the 655? too watch Brentford play.

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2009
    google says the old southall garage was turned into retail park 1993.often saw carpet warehouse there.front of southall wide 2 huge entrance exit...poor hanwell high st garage so squashed up in the front between shops.they seem to have slow job getting in and out..but hanwell much more centrally based of more bus routes off to ealing broadway and perhaps down to brentford...only saw couple bus rou... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2009
    1993 hanwell garage closed.to go to greenford area.....says southall garage closed just after 1986 after the 282 bus had been transfered there...important canteen facilities hanwell enjoyed.. we used to hear rumours about it at the bus stop.buses for going to work daily

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2009
    1925 to 1986 the bus garage in southall opposite st bernards..was knowm as HW code..but renamed in 1950 as southall garage.HW was its former name .

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2009
    apparently hanwell high st garage was called HL code.mentions the 232 and 120..memories...when 12 yrs old my cousin and I bought cheap new idea I think red rover child ticket any bus all day london.we ended up passed st pauls to the fish market at the river it did smell and wet water everywhere.1960 ish

  • Re: evacuees by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Sep-2009

    Ron: Not only did your mother serve my dad, but dad used to take me up to the canteen on occasions,so she will have served me as well!
    Almost spooky in a very nice way!

  • Re: evacuees by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 6-Sep-2009
    Hi there;-Love all the memories about Southall & Hanwell garages, and remember the Red Rover well, we used to go all over London, sometimes not sure where we would end up. As I lived in Hayes remember in the 60's getting a 207/607 not sure which, you bus buffs will know, think it came from Shepherd's Bush, Anyway got on at the Adam & Eve to go to pictures at Uxbridge, the Regal, used to cost 3d pr... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Sep-2009
    In my day (up to 1954) in Southall, the 607 Trollybus went from Shepherd Bush to Uxbridge-some turned round at the Adam and Eve at Hayes End, and some at Delamere Road Southall.

  • Re: evacuees by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 6-Sep-2009
    Michael it was the White Hart Hayes End the trolley's terminated can you remember if you travelled before a certain time in the morning you got a Workman's and after six o clock a evening ticket I use to go to the 'Bush' Empire and bought the ticket it was valid up to midnight

  • Re: evacuees by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Sep-2009
    Thanks Len,
    Silly me- I had friends quite near to the White Hart.

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2009
    there is large photo of white hart hayes end boarded up about to be demmolished.... on google

  • Re: evacuees by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 7-Sep-2009
    Yvonne the White Hart now a block of flats passed it on Friday The Adam and Eve still there opposite Church Road.

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Sep-2009
    southall bus garage.by accident just saw.wallaby was found in southall garage about 1947.memories ruislip lido site.lady says her dad awarded mbe developing lido with john miller.freeze of 1947 they walked across whole lake to beach on back area.small zoo the wallaby escaped across west middlesex and found.donkey rides/cafetteria.old lido ticket.her father insisted pronounced LEE DO as italian for... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 7-Sep-2009
    Hi Len - Saw your mention of Dr Nussbaum who had a surgery in Somerset Road and wondered if you, or anyone else, might know when he died. He was our family doctor from around 1939/40 and I last saw him in 1960 shortly before I left Southall. I was born in Trinity Road, lived Palgrave Avenue, Faraday Road and Northcote Avenue. Does anyone remember Vine House in Park View Road when it was a Rest Cen... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Sep-2009
    273 doubledecker bus going to southall garage 1960s parked outside lido.1935 art deco caffeteria.grand opening programme fireworks.2 turnstiles .. tickets to get in..1936 ice hockey there.also when no water cracked clay.good photos ruislip on line site....mr s.w hester geology..holes 1930s quarries etc everywhere and dig deep for flint like flint in ruislip church....for building so many houses.c... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 7-Sep-2009
    Hello Janice you are going back in time believe it or not we are still at that surgery it is now called Somerset Medical Centre my wife and I have been patients for over forty years.
    Dr.Nussbaum my wife cared for his wife also him I would say he died in the early '9os he lived in Ealing my wife went up every day to care for him his daughter died in America.

  • Re: evacuees by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 7-Sep-2009
    Yes of course it was the 607 trolley bus which turned around at the White Hart Hayes End, but when the RM took over was that not a 207 ? might be wrong

  • Re: evacuees by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 7-Sep-2009
    Barry the bendy buses now turn round at Tyrell roundabout that is just pass Springfield Road Hayes.

  • Re: evacuees by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Sep-2009

    Was Dr Nussbaum* the successor to Dr Ginsberg?
    Our family doctor was Dr McKenna, with a practice in South Road. Our nearest doctor was Dr Olive, a lady doctor in North Road,with a practice in a large Georgian house.
    The large practice where I now attend is very girlie i.e a majority of women, and very good they are.
    * German for walnut tree.

  • Re: evacuees by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 8-Sep-2009
    Michael Dr. Nussbaum had his surgery in Somerset Rd. Dr. Ginsberg in Lady Margaret Rd. I would say there surgeries were operating at the same time late thirties.

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Sep-2009
    Len, Dr Ginsberg was treating my newly born brother in 1936 at Bankside.

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Sep-2009
    As my entry on Dr Ginsberg is still showing, I would like to say one last thing about him. When my brother was born, he had a blockage of the main intestine, which meant that he couldn't hold milk down in any quantity, so my mother had to feed him with a fountain pen bladder, drop by drop. Dr Ginsberg said that this condition had to be corrected urgently, so he authorised an operation at six weeks... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2009
    hope they realised how grateful we all were to them when they eventually retired..and one man when often today group of 4 of them.we came from generations only went doc when something very serious.never away from school nor them the factories...probably no pay if sickday...mainly never went to doc in our lives.dr clyne came all way from greenford rd by golflinks to west ave when had mumps...he did... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Sep-2009
    Many years ago on a beautiful summer's day when I was about ten, I took my youngest brother for a walk along the towpath of the canal. We walked for several miles, and eventually came off on to the road. We carried on walking and then decided we'd better get a bus home. We asked the conductor if it went to Southall and he said it did. However, I began to get very worried as I didn't recognise any ... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2009
    nice story.when I was about 5 golflinks.the family at the back of us called mattingly.daughter about 9 or so.late afternoon somehow she had said go for walk.I was only short and short legs .walked all up greenford rd to iron bridge.we must have continued along uxb rd to town hall.too tired to remember.turned up to southall station.dark rush hour traffic bikes etc that is where my memory comes clea... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 19-Sep-2009
    The thought of evacuees in WW2, reminds me that we also had refugees in Southall-largely I think from Belgium. We had a couple of young men with us, and when they moved on one middle-aged gentleman, who was the Belgian Liason officer in Southall. We went to some of their social gatherings at Shackleton Hall.

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2009
    dr clyne was from leipzig born so another good doc...died about 2000...your german studies mike.my mother from cortina ,brenner pass to gorgeous innsbruck.salzburg on our dormers school trip.my italian alps family bi lingual german.just in touch with dormers primary pupils reunion on the cards 1954 memories

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2009
    like the memories of shack hall.1950s family weddings evenings there..nice bit of land around hall so all the children could play outside while adults danced.then kids joined in musical chairs..knees up mother brown..oki coki...only 2 mins walk away useful hall..congar all out and around at end of the evening..mischief decorate the going away married car//bridesmaids page boys all homemade dresses... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2009
    as for the belgians sorry 1950s did not hear of it.tony and I went to canals of beautiful medieval bruges famous chocs and lace.and stopped off at menin gate.and the bugler played the last post .many names on the huge 1st w war arch straddles the road.children and people inhabitants of the continent.mark respect at memorials.children lay flowers at graves.my heston nans brother died arras 1917.ma... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Sep-2009
    Yvonne; I was very interested to read of your family connections with the South Tyrol. For many years, I used to holiday in Steinach in Tirol. While there, I would sometimes jump on the train and go to Stertzing/Vipiteno on the other side of the Brenner. If you do for a walk there, and you meet someone, you won't know whether they will say "Bon Giorno" or "Gruss Gott"! Happy Days!

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2009
    yes cortina wellover 100yrs and many more.they suffered austrian empire.italian soldiers towards brenner pass backwards forwards invasion..whos territory...my gt aunt 100yrs old.her mother was 95.the men faired worse battered by the conflicts.I did not see them much.cortina queen alps so beautiful...cousin and son and husband pillars of community.so traditional..costumes brass band and music.have ... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Sep-2009
    Yes Yvonne, the South Tyrol right down to Lake Garda was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
    In 1918 the South Tyrol was ceded to Italy, for joining England and France against Germany and Austria.It is a beautiful part of the world.

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2009
    as youngster only paid couple pounds dad worked brit eagle heston airport.into innsbruck..coach to cortina several hrs snow arrived new yr eve midnight.motorway to venice only 2hrs now.as youngster train from london 27hrs..if cortina alps uncle drove us up the tretcherous round round mtn rds..he was used to it...12000ft and more dolomites.cable car cousin climbed picked little bit eidleweiss for m... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2009
    was it hemingway 1st w war river piave wounded then hospital milan.my friends go to lake garda/and grappa famous

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Sep-2009
    I was watching BBC1 this morning when they had arrived early to capture the moment when the children and teachers at a school in Earlsfield, South London were about to re-evacuate to Shamley Green in Guildford, Surrey, exactly the same as in September 1939. They were going by steam train to Surrey, and one of the teachers had actuslly been evacuated there as a child himself. It brought back memor... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Sep-2009
    it was good week of 9.15 am bbc 1 of war memories..and 5 pm bbc series also recently.michael aspel and catherine jenkins.just got back from venice.and my lifetime friends chatted that bomb dropped next to their house.3 children and mother evacuated themselves to their grandmother in the countryside for the duration of the war while their father was in the navy

  • Re: evacuees by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 1-Oct-2009
    Yvonne I was speaking to a friend of mine who lived at N0 40 West Ave. his name is Ken Bolton he was in the same class as Dorothy Akers must be a relation I knew her as Dolly.
    Regards Len

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2009
    thanks len.yes my aunt doll.she used to chat to most neighbours when she went did all the shopping for the family..born 1925 july.she was 3 when they moved into 16 west ave she was the yougest ..baby of the family.lovely lady.she helped bring me up.she didnt marry till age 25 1950 to len dick holmes.had one room wembly till 1st baby denise.got put out no babies so came back west ave,payed 10 shill... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2009
    ken bolton len has my email let me know memories at school same class as my aunt doll born july 1925 my dad was april 1921 jim ackers.all best ken.yes she was often called dolly and doctor and school called her dorothy.she was in southall hosp when she ad her operation dr braun or something was her doctor all her life.good looking lady lovely thick dark hair pretty face like her mother my nan.fondest regards ken

  • Re: evacuees by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 2-Oct-2009
    Yvonne I can see your Aunt Dolly now beautiful dark hair and rosy cheeks we were all the same age I am afraid Ken hasn't a computer he lives in Guildford I have known him for 75 years when we lived in Alexandria Ave.he was 8 months older than me.
    My regards to you and Tony Len.

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2009
    yes thankyou len ken.aunt dolly brought me up with nan.my dads disaster war marriage was a non starter.good looking woman all her life .attractive face and thick wave dark hair eyes same as her parents.she married age 25 holy trinity she was my godmother there also.age 30 1st daughter who looks like her.yr later twin girls.so like triplets all in twin big black pram.dressed the same.worked lyons w... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2009
    josie aunt ada hahnenfeld used to walk down from allemby 113 all the time to sister aunt doll when was terminally ill at golflinks.been past old white hart pub there all boarded up still.... bp garage many yrs still there and windmill lane cemetery there.buses at top and old little covered market long gone.new flats now.ada was ealing hosp with stomach cancer but 80 ish passed away.ada about in t... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Oct-2009
    Still on the subject of evacuees, I thought some of my brother's accounts might be of interest "We all assembled and departed from Southall County School, and at the time it seemed like a big picnic. People scurrying around with bags and suitcases, coaches waiting for their young passengers aged between seven and nine, all giggling and laughing. We all had gas masks in their boxes around our necks... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Oct-2009
    Sorry folks - I ran out of steam. The rest is....
    that the hot shoe had made previously . The final touch was to file down any rough edges, and after repeating this procedure for each hoof, the horse went away with its new shoes. The Smithy said "When your mum buys you a pair of shoes, you get two shoes the same size. When I shoe a horse, each shoe is shaped individually to suit the hoof." This ... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2009
    the only thing I know about horse shoes is the one hanging in the kitchen..am told if hanging down the good fortune falls out.more awkward to turn it upright..then supposed to bring good fortune...have written off to colindale newspaper archive but they would take few weeks to reply .hope to be lucky for the bit on 21 oct 1951 sunday..

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2009
    last night tv coventry.they thought they were in a hollow and hidden bombs going to other midlands.respectful well done programme.dormers school was good 1964 by coach they took us to new opened modern cathedral.my photos show my friends at old cathedral attached with 2 charred beams put in a cross.st michael angel sculpture at modern engraved glass doors.says 1st hand accounts from those who have... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2009
    pauline you mentioned yorkshire.just doing my primary school today and some came from beaconsfield primary.they have good site list of memories and they went yorkshire.brian townend of sid rose and shirley barton in trinity rd.also daphne woodgate of townsend ave..

  • Re: evacuees by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 15-Oct-2009
    Hi Yvonne & Co;-back again, been working on the family history for a couple of weeks. Anyway, all this talk of horseshoes, can anyone tell me the name of the local blacksmith/farrier in Norwood Green around 1900 and where exactly he was situated ? Reason being a couple of years ago came across 14 large glass negatives all taken around Norwood Green, the Plough, Biscoe School, Dutch Pond, Elms et... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2009
    best wishes barrie.think it was up in corner by woodbine villas.2 of which are still therethe old post office and bakers.gdad brickmak and bricklayer lived 13 woodbine villas 1800s built they had to move out.decay cochroaches their 2 first babies to bring up..horses trough drink in green also,our chuch warden st mary norwood green would know.she has photos.we all meet up at her fete and photos jul... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2009
    yes please if you can send any will be very grateful indeed..get tony to send you one of gtnan outside no 5 north star row her window with half way across net.they lived there many yrs babies born there 1800s to when they pulled it down about mid 50s.uncle george had to get out to council flat down rd died 1961 age 76.was in army as young man quite few yrs..thankyou sincerely

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2009
    the fairly large pond layed along front.along part at norwood rd the bus rd to heston.have seen photos of it library and on google.len has friend lives near plough and josie knows the plough.opposite church and biscoe was near church1700 1800s school for poor children labourers.almshouses along at frogmore they pulled down about 1960.my wingrove gt gt nan was in their age over 80 on census.all la... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2009
    there was horse drink trough at side road at memorial triangle opposite heston church 1900s.think read once that there was smithy there also on the turning near ancient rose crown pub there going into new heston rd

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2009
    nice bit on google..the norwood green area wilson families.john wilson born there 1801 farm bailiff.descendant fred wilson blacksmith wife eliza born 1956 many children.good photo of plough with fullers shire horses and dray of beer barrels outside,updated by wilson mar 09

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Oct-2009
    Yvonne, in one of your entries in the '1960's' you mentioned how lovely it was now to walk along the Grand Union canal from Spikes Bridge to where Taylor Woodrow offices used to be. When my brother and I walked along the canal footpath that day many years ago and finally ended up at South Harrow on the bus, I've never really been able to find out where exactly we came off the canal. I'm sure we ev... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2009
    yes taylor woodrow office went inside once for job interiew......go other side of spik bridge ..we used to call it the bumpy field before flat fields grass where mushrooms cows were.......so that west side canal edge continues north direction....so right turn at spik bridge.....keep going in right hand direction..canal it goes parralel with lady margaret rd......so as canal reaches the main rd ru... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2009
    tony laughing says blimey that was long walk he works s harrow....a to z and can see you going under bridge canal at ruislip rd taylor woodrow..and ahead western ave...target...to left would be next junction ploish war memorial where we live....under target canal goes to black horse pub...where my family used to go..we kids used to play under bridge and sausage on stick with 7 up lemonade..canal... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2009
    if you came off canal at black horse bridge canal pub then you would be oldfield rd greenford rd north greenford..picking up the bus going in the wrong direction you would be 2 stops and in s harrow...but if you had crossedthe road busstop and gone in south 105 bus direction you would go greenford high st andnot have got lost....105 bus always goes into southall....and I took 105 from greenford t... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Oct-2009
    Thanks for that Yvonne and Tony. All I can remember is that we were getting really worried as we couldn't hear anything around us towards the end of our walk. In fact, some of the towpath was flooded, but I do remember walking along what must have been the Ruislip road and passing the Polish war memorial and seeing the word 'Target' somewhere. Then, unfortunately, we got on the wrong bus which en... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2009
    you must have come off canal at taylor woodrow office pub engineers on left and walked long way ruislip rd to polish...passed byron pub on your left and telephone exchange on left...white hart pub roundabout on right..yeading lane on left and sign to target on right just there.this all used to be green fields but tower block flats now...then lane north up to polish.....with green belt big fi... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2009
    140 bus also goes target prob up s harrow it goes mill hill....uncle fred willans worked night until he died of his weak heart age 52...140 from our flat yeading lane via target to north london.massive long journey everyday but only people that would give him a sit down nights quiet job.......at target if you had crossed the rd buses would have brought you south back into southall way..but you ... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 21-Oct-2009
    To Len and anybody else who remembers Dr.Nussbaum: My mother told me he was an Austrian Jew who had fled his country with wife and daughter due to the pogroms at the time of WW2 - a Heart Specialist whose qualifications meant nothing much in the UK at that time. The waiting room was in the downstairs front room, a table in the centre with dining chairs all around the walls, walk in and count the p... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Oct-2009
    Re: evacuees by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 1-Sep-2009 you said:"On Sept. 3rd I stood at the top of Alexandria Ave.when the siren went it was a warm sunny day I was fourteen at the time there was an ice cream Man call Eldorado he gave all the ice cream away and pedalled like hell up the Uxbridge Rd".

    No, He wasn't "called Eldorado". Eldorado was a brand name, just like Wall's or Lyons. ... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2009
    seems branston pickle now and supermarket brands made by the big companies .conveyor belt section put the supermarket label on.......xmas cold meats picallili yellow pickle..grew own shallots sept harvest and kilner jar put spices .leave dont tempt try ...special have for xmas..west ave had trycle come down ices and 1950s corona lorry soft fizz drinks selling..7 up lemonade..red fizzy stuff

  • Re: evacuees by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Oct-2009
    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone else remembers Corona Drinks lorries!! All those glass bottles in wooden crates!!

  • Re: evacuees by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Oct-2009
    FOR LEN GODDARD

    Southall Garage was INITIALLY called Hanwell garage so that people coming from the east along the Uxbridge Road wouldn't think the bus went as far as Southall town centre (because it obviously didn't). Hanwell was called Hanwell Depot, which later led to confusion within L.T. having two garages with the same name (but different codes - HW & HL) so the one nearest to Southall e... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 22-Oct-2009
    What memories, showing our age now, the Corona man, although I came from Hayes my dads family came from Southall, remember the Corona man coming around, deposit on the bottles. We also had a Sunblest Bakers man as well.

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Oct-2009
    The treat I remember mostly as kids was "Tizer".
    What about the Hayes News Barrie, delivered regularly for a small amount. There were entries in there from people abroad wanting a penfriend.

  • Re: evacuees by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 22-Oct-2009
    Hi Pauline;-Were you a Hayes person? at any time.Yes the Hayes News, I have an aunt in Australia, the only one left now in my older generation. She emigrated in 1949 just before I was born, she's been back a couple of times. Anyway an uncle of mine used to send her monthly bundles of the Hayes News right up until he died. Who knows perhaps she still has them ! will have to write to her, she is 90 ... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Oct-2009
    Hi Barrie again. Yes, I did live in Hayes for a couple of years in 1954/6 in Clement Gdns, near "The Western", after I married. I worked at EMI for several years at Head Office. The Hayes news was delivered to us in Northcote Avenue, and I actually wrote to a chap for a while until I met my husband! Happy days.

  • Re: evacuees by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 22-Oct-2009
    Hi again Pauline;-I think the old EMI office building has now been turned into some kind of sheltered housing. Remember the gate which used to be on the bridge near the 'Anchor' before they widened the bridge, only used to open it at the beginning and end of shift.hundreds of people on bikes. Loads of my family and branches worked there. i.e.Sceeny/Peggrem etc,. as well as Harrisons the other side... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Oct-2009
    Hi again Barry. You brought back a lot of memories about all the workers charging out at the end of their shifts walking (or running) and on bikes! My husband also worked at EMI as a toolmaker, plus his brother and sister. In fact his sister was in the air-raid shelter on that fateful day in July 1944 when a doodlebug hit the shelter killing and injuring many people. Her mate, who was due to be ma... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 23-Oct-2009
    Hi Pauline;-
    re:Your mention of the V1 hitting the EMI shelter
    My grandfather worked for the council and was in the CD Heavey rescue unit that attended that incident. He had served in Salonika during WW1 but what he witnessed that day stayed with him forever. The memorial to those who were killed is as you know in Cherry Lane cemetery.

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Oct-2009
    Yes Barry, Cherry Lane also brought back some more memories. We used to have some lovely walks all around that area before the motorway was built. Cranford Park or Woods was another beauty spot. We were told that there was an underground passage in the Park somewhere which had been there for many, many years, but never found out if it was true.

  • Re: evacuees by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Oct-2009

    I remember the day when the V1 fell on the air raid shelter at EMI. I was than at Southal Junior Technical College, and we were down the air raid shelters. We heard the big crump when the V1 fell.
    Looking out of the shelter a big cloud of dust and smoke was rising. We learnt the dreadful truth before the end of the day

  • Re: evacuees by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 23-Oct-2009
    Hi again Pauline;-I have masses of archives on Cranford, wrote my first book back in 1998 on the area, Berkeley family etc,. The Manor of Cranford A Brief History. I don't know if your local but most libraries in Hillingdon and Hounslow have copies. With regards to the tunnels, the house itself was pulled down in 1945, but the Cellars still remain, (not open to the public), if you are interested I... more >>

  • Re: evacuees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Oct-2009
    Hi Barry - thanks very much for the photos of Cranford Cellars. I tried to thank you twice by e-mail, but they were refused. They were indeed very spooky. Could you let me have the ISBN of your book please. Thanks once again.

  • Re: evacuees by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-May-2010
    That takes me back Dr Ginsberg Somerset Rd we had him untill we moved in 1960.

 
AEC Southall and Gurneys Tv & radio by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 28-Aug-2009
Just to let you know that there is a small film about the AEC on You Tube, just type in AEC SOUTHALL.
Met an old boy at a bike meet down my way, his name was Peter Brunning, and he lived in Hayes. He worked for EMI and then Gurneys. I seem to remember it was on the Broadway opposite Northcote Ave ??? Hav'nt did mentioned before, sorry if i missed it. Just goes to show what a small world it is. Steve.....
  
  • Re: AEC Southall and Gurneys Tv & radio by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 6-Dec-2009
    STEVE HILL YOUR COUSIN ANDREA IS TRY TO CONTACT YOU

 
Interesting site by davo (Member 10030212) on 22-Aug-2009
I was sent this link from a friend .http://www.britishpathe.com/ It has some interesting video of Southall of old   
  • Re: Interesting site by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 22-Aug-2009
    Thanks a million some really good footage of Southall which brings back memories

    Thanks a bundle

  • Re: Interesting site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2009
    thankyou so very much davo..excellent site pathe.much appreciated

  • Re: Interesting site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2009
    josie and all.1960s domestic science students on pathe site.we did swissroll..BEA girls training course.ivy snelling laleham swimming 1937 we had brenda snelling dormers 1954/.

  • Re: Interesting site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2009
    dylis and all recognise faces on pathe site.air crash.and 1961 southall swim pool.and 1958 ron brewers donkey jack going upstairs southall visiting dave leonard sick in bed

  • Re: Interesting site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2009
    apparently ron brewer and his donkey jack..ron member of the donkey society,,autobiographical book by b dwyer....1958 he visited shop southall donkey upstairs to visit sick boy leonard

  • Re: Interesting site by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 24-Aug-2009
    Hi there;-Just had a look at the Britishpathe site, brilliant, remember that narrator's voice, used to have these snips between fims at the pics. Love the one with the donkey, Ron Brewer used to visit local shool and other fetes with his 'Donkey Derby', not only in Southall but all round the area. If my memory serves me correct he used to keep his donkeys in the field off of Southall Lane/Church R... more >>

  • Re: Interesting site by josie (Member 10235627) on 24-Aug-2009
    Just had a look at the british pathe site,brings back lots of memories,my father heard the plane circling he looked out of the window and saw it coming down,we all got dressed and went down there,Mrs Reid who lost her children was at work cleaning the cinema on south rd it was awful to see her come around the corner to see her house gone also her children,Doll Hickey lived on the corner of Kelvin ... more >>

  • Re: Interesting site by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Aug-2009
    Thanks Davo for the British Pathe site. Loved seeing the main Post Office and the shops in King Street on the bus route. Also Southall swimming pool, where we spent many a happy hour; plus the Southall hospital being opened. Great!

  • Re: Interesting site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Aug-2009
    tony says the tank to test flood prevention.he first worked at npl.the long thin tank feltham scientists tested for bouncing bomb.then tony was taking notes on new ships development models down the tank..southall perhaps it was down by community 1969.of station somewhere.

  • Re: Interesting site by davo (Member 10030212) on 26-Aug-2009
    Glad to be of service people

  • Re: Interesting site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2009
    davo and sister did you go aussie when many did..my cousin of southall went 10 pound 1958 husband charlie reeves of near emi hayes 4 yrs old daughter tina..I went 1970 to see them.they live north of sidney now nearer the tree area.we drove through night burnt eucalyp forests past canberra to melbourne to see friends there that they were on ship with.went to war memorial..came home darwin hong kong... more >>

  • Re: Interesting site by davo (Member 10030212) on 27-Aug-2009
    Yes , we were 10 pound poms . We lived in Elmfield Road and both went to Featherstone road school .

  • Re: Interesting site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2009
    think our june was later in leaving .you probably went before 1958.they came on the motorbike side car to say goodbye to nan.june had worked firestones so she was about 26 leaving.melbourne friends who got off ship first.then went on to sydney lived wentworthville west suburbs for yrs.she always blamed salt air of suez etc for ruining her sewing machine

  • Re: Interesting site by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 27-Aug-2009
    Yvonne I had my e-mail scammed by some Nigerian fraudster my new e-mail.
    leonard.goddard@yahoo.co.uk

  • Re: Interesting site by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 27-Aug-2009
    Pauline, Dilys Michael, my e-mail was scammed by some Nigerian fraudster my new e-mail.
    leonard.goddard@yahoo.co.uk

  • Re: Interesting site by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 27-Aug-2009
    Hi Le;-
    Likewise I had an e.mail last night from someone calling themselves Len Goddard, asking for money, think that was from Nigeria.

  • Re: Interesting site by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 27-Aug-2009
    Barry my e-mail was scammed by a Nigerian I had to change my e-mail now leonard.goddard@yhahoo.co.uk I apologise thank God they never got my Bank details.
    Len

 
AEC Southall by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 22-Aug-2009
I see that some of you worked or knew someone that worked at the AEC. Does anyone remember my grandad Harry Hill, he worked there once, Just cannot find out when or what he did. Did try the AEC website, but got no response. Part of ongoing family tree stuff. Any help appreciated.
Regards Steve.
  
  • Re: AEC Southall by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 22-Aug-2009
    Me again. oh. I know that us Old Southallians are a resourceful bunch so i wonder if you can help on this as well. Family tree stuff. Harry worked at Heinz's. Firestone Tyre Co. Trying to work out where and what he did after leaving the Grenadier Guards in 1928. Also told me he had a job once cleaning the clock faces of Big Ben, true or false??? Any info would be helpful. Regards Steve

  • Re: AEC Southall by John W (Member 10082501) on 22-Aug-2009
    Hi Steve, I worked at the AEC from 1952 to 1967.
    I don't remember a Harry Hill, when did he work there?
    There was a Peter and a Gordon Hill. Peter was a forman in the tinsmiths dept.

  • Re: AEC Southall by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 22-Aug-2009
    Just out of curiosity did you know a Dennis Knowles at the AEC, he was my sister in laws father
    Cheers

  • Re: AEC Southall by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 1-Sep-2009
    Sorry folks i was'nt born then. Am trying to find info.Steve

  • Re: AEC Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Oct-2009
    Contact the Bus Museum at Chobham near Weybridge. LOADS of info on AEC factory and ask to be put in touch with various bus links such as "Ian's bus page" & "Dick Gilbert" . Bill Cottrell (now unfortunately deceased( was a founder member of the museum and is ex-AEC

  • Re: AEC Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Oct-2009
    my gt aunts son was draughtsman aec 40yrs if that helps.southall walked biked there.retired passed away 1987...walked limp knee damage playing rugby school bachelor.ted

  • Re: AEC Southall by Pat Hall (Member 10242725) on 28-Nov-2009
    Hi John W, I worked at AEC Southall from 1963 to 1973 in the Treasury Department so would have filled your wage packet with cash, small world

 
Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 22-Aug-2009
Hi all, have wracked the brains and have come up with the following names that i can remember, if i had a street layout, i could place the names with which house they lived at, but dont fancy visiting Southall again. Anyway here goes.
Hills lived at 163. Clarkes lived next door at 165 Bill,Rose,sons Alan, Mickey, daughter June and Barbara, and twin boys?. Next door 161 Mr. and Mrs Johnson, daught... more >>
  
  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Aug-2009
    steve my aunt married fred willans..joan norman we used to go seaside with them in normans black car,he was lorry driver died youngish..david... susanne came to my 21st party.david married before 1970..angela was last born in house 114.1958 very nice girl...she had 2 children.she bought house late1980s moved.her nice mum joan lovely blonde hair died breast cancer 1984 in house.we went see her fe... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 22-Aug-2009
    There's a few names thats brought back memories, The Ives (didn't they run the green grocers stall top of Alexander avenue) the Rockleys boys Barry and Colin, the Stranges, the Hutts and of course the Findlaters whose garden backed onto mine, I lived in East Avenue.

    The names you mention are familiar to me by way of either going to school with them (Tudor rd and Dormers Wells) or they were frei... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2009
    timberlakes were big family and always lots males.so if most the same stem.my gran s mother mary and gdads george family.southall green going back to northhyde cranford lane botwell dawley and old man furthest back was born baptised greenford church.they are on war memorials also

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Aug-2009
    Mrs Pocock had the greengrocers stall at the top of Northcote Avenue. She lived in Alexandra Avenue, and the Ive family, who lived opposite to us were also Costermongers.They lived next door to the Rose family and O'Neills. I recognised lots of names when I lived there. The Willans lived next door to the Stevens family. I was very friendly with Mauvine Stevens (who married Kenny Burt or Burke)she ... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by thompson (Member 10241148) on 1-Oct-2009
    Just found this site. There are a lot of local names that bring back memories.
    We lived at No.127,next door to the Hiliers.
    My grandfather "Ruffy" Rowbottom use to sit at the front gate and speak to all who passed.
    I remenber one night when there was a street fight between neighbours from the private houses, my mother "Doll" Doris Thompson was out there seperating the offenders.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by davo (Member 10030212) on 1-Oct-2009
    Welcome to the site Thompson , Hope you can share some of your memories with us

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2009
    carlisle ave next to spikes bridge pk entrance lived hackers family in 1930s at 1940.william george and wife kathy was from york 3 young children.hackers was my gdads brothers son.he was army career.met kathy in york army service.they lived council hse carlisle rd.he died young there.she took 3young children back to york..we visited her there when pensioner.she left deeds of havelock grave with us... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2009
    my gdad knew rowbottom well..rowbotton always used northcote as we all did..rowbotton and roache and jack hills came round our hse after pub xmas to play cards and beer.west ave nobby acres my gdad and uncle

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Oct-2009
    Hi Thompson. We lived in Northcote Avenue for 16 years at No. 153. I remember Mrs Hillier, who used to sit by her gate and chat as you went by. My brother David was very friendly with Cecil Hillier, an avid fisherman. On my brother's 15th birthday, he and Cecil went to Poyle Pits (on the other side of Colnbrook), where there were two large gravel-pits. While they fished there, Cecil, with David's... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2009
    many seemed to go fishing.uncle fred willans 114 northcote ave always went fishing.sometimes runnymead windsor.he and fiance my aunt sis rose ackers used to cycle sundays to windsor or ruislip and ruislip lido woods.as adolescents so about late1930s and 40s

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2009
    pauline the national newspapers archive are on google.times always has been.and colindale british library has archive of all local papers gazettes and nationals.be lovely to see if a page in n of world article you have a good date and details of the prize 2 big catches of fish.I wrote to colindale once and they looked it up and wrote back..all best from y and husband tony

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Oct-2009
    Thank you Yvonne for the info. but although I know the exact date Cecil Hillier caught the Pike - 12th October 1951 - I'm not into the Archives like you are. Have only been on the Internet since February! It was my brother's 15th birthday and he was born on 12th October 1936. The article in the News of the World evidently came out the following week. What I forgot to mention was that when Cecil g... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2009
    always have wonderful smile and laugh with your stories pauline and I know len enjoys all our good reads.thanks keep them coming..have written your dates ..later on get in archive for you.1966 to 2009 librarian work I should know how to do it Ha...keep sleeping a bit at minute..great holiday with lifelong friends venice and florence.so very wonderful over 80 degrees hot..tears in my eyes 1 and hal... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Oct-2009
    That is so kind of you Yvonne. I do appreciate it. I understand how upset you got at leaving friends. I do enjoy this Site. Kind regards to you and Tony.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue Part # 2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2009
    ok pauline.watch all the ballroom dance on tv it is great and 6.30 everyday on bbc2

 
Northcote Ave/Carol Reed by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 22-Aug-2009
Hi Carol, you mentioned in one thread that you knew me. Did you live just around the corner in Carlyle Ave, if you are who i am thinking of you had long blond hair.
Regards Steve
  
  • Re: Northcote Ave/Carol Reed by davo (Member 10030212) on 22-Aug-2009
    HI Steve . Carol lived in Elmfield road till 1969 then moved to Australia.
    Cheers , from her brother