f i find out more will let you know.
Regards Steve

pub, it is of course situated on the Ruislip Road. My memory must be getting worse.

ffice...my ackers was at number 13 should imagine one room ish...other labourers places only had one outdoor tap between them all

vailable there 1800s,thanks

orseshoes)
(3) The Hamborough)
(4) The Lamb)
(5) Prince of Wales
(6) Junction Arms
(7) The Plough

ys have to look up double records Uxbridge register district and Brentford reg dist and 2 or 3 lots parish churches there deal with northhyde.best wishes

nk it's a combination of two or three things A]Trouble, B]the price of a pint and C]which I think is the best,youre not allowed to smoke inside now because it's not healthy, so have to stand outside and inhale the traffic fumes !!!

agons main london rd 1900s uxbridge to holborn covent gdn.tel no also for it

As for the Greetings Card factory at the top,it was Wilsons, my uncle Les Sceeny Worked there. While for a while my dad and another uncle worked for the E.M.I. Ministry of Defence Works in Springfield Rd.Incidentely, the large building at the top known as Hayes Gate House is owned by the chap who owns Sunrise Radio, he was going to make it into a Hotel, it has a huge ballroom on the ground floor, I carried out a bit of remedial work there a couple of years back following a break-in, still empty as far as I know.

d geoge cole dennis waterman minder was on bus saw it..tv show..burnt down big estate there joining far back huge willowtree estate school docs etc..to bankside fields..........everybit green gone to houses

someone...we bought one of his Alsatian's pups.
Dad also grew up in/around the Featherstone Arms in the 40's/50's...

so did emma go there..I went in 1957to house.older than ours ..at 1927 built west ave.so probably 1920 built.wood gate on bend in end rd.front hall down to kitchen left side big butler enamel sink on left .right side front back rooms.upstairs thought prob 4 small bedrooms..went to see joan 1980s died there breast cancer.kids had knocked through to one room.angela bought it and moved away

rary in Hayes, and we all had a fantastic evening. All the windows were open as it was so hot, and I can remember all the neighbours saying how much they enjoyed listening to all the old songs even though it went on till quite late. We left Northcote Avenue soon after, and my sister was so upset because she had to leave Dormers Wells school and all the sports!

w Ha.never heard of such things in the 50s..best wishes pauline

nusual things they have now.and be careful not bash head tarmac or concrete surface

nning in and was not very pleased with my brother. As for the swings, the boys often used to get on them, two at a time, and I used to get so scared that something would snap as they got higher and higher. That was life then, and it was so good.

ght .happy summer hot birthday.special one coming along little later on.

on Tuesday and saw 2 x AEC routemeasters still working there as 'historic vehicles' on route 15. Nobody has built buses as well as that since, nor any that could possibly have lasted so long.

with the Willow Tree??

to be willow tree lane...yes dylis think macdonalds target now and that ironbridge pub used to be greenford hotel pub now macdonalds

finished in 1966 when he retired, l do not know.

rn, no one in their right mind would want to go back. Will be some time before i do that again, and that was after 12 years. What a SxxxHole it has become. Mind you it was heading that way anyway. Did see one of my old neighbours Pat Hadler, still alive and kicking. had a good chat and then headed back home to Hampshire and relatively safer riding conditions. Some of the old names are still living in Northcote Avenue, so if i can jog someones memory about anything i will try, bearing in mind that i was born in '53.
Regards to all
Steve Hill
Ps only live 5 minutes away from my mum, Gwen Hill, Now Gwen Chandler.

tc etc so much there.brick making handmade.chair making of high wycombe.all demonstrated

mewhere in the high street. I remembered it wasn't an ordinary bus!

with the track..bit like old cobble stones used to be strong hard wearing...Ha! looks ok.my cracknell cousin in canada now came back to find grandfather grave hanwell off uxbridge rd.he went to see oates at ealing library and they discussed the tale that he was run over accident by tram along ealing there.best wishes to you

o needles..acton depot once year have always done open day all transport history and items and covent garden transport museum

her gave me lift home to grapes pub hayes on her way continue to her hillingdon

d countryside run about kids leather strap belt only just had to be touched and face and tone voice.so two world wars the men were already subservient before join services.worked sec school 32 yrs lovely teachers curric amazing local kids and c of e but spoilt so a few with lack simple respect.

87 no cholesterol.1950s with my strict aunt family they were so much the adults it was their life their house they all worked strict factory all their lives .you were nobody so much really just the kids.go school every day nobody was ever off sick.go to work get married have kids.that was it. I did break the mould a bit..

still there 2000 but later said moved

ho is now 92 years old. I visited northern France and found the whereabouts of Alfred's grave. He is on the roll of honour in Hertfordshire as this was the regiment he was with when he was killed.

and australia........commonwealth war graves will send you sheets on your relative..and free photos of his name in france..etc......

.nan kept his photo hanging living room always silver frame on the old fashioned picture frame rail hook and chain.his cousin rose only went there one day her mother would not let her go back.yellow effect there.grave havelock three there his parents joined him.we have all their photos

e toxic conditions horrendous..to when 1980 closed

rentford richmond way.no children.left dormers no qualifications but now has 8 uni doctorates 5 masters degrees and couple visiting professorships all honorary.daily mail weekend article he was 68 then

0.1950s they did stage shows .gilbert sullivan gondeliers.

lady margaret rd.. smell of burning to dormers at time house on fire 1950s
off there....live ruislip now have ALL local hist books ruislip and middx but only little bit on southall .have not been to oates at central library for some time..go next year when bit more time.best wishes

ars at all only coalman icecreambike.corona fizz drinks lorry selling down street.so we had flowers all front lawn and yellow privet and green privet trimmed low .. lucky have some old photos of it ad back long garden veg salad

andfathers had been market gard ag labs before bricklaying and factories took over.eliz 1st called heston the wheatfields of england soil was so fertile.bread mills heston and farms up to norwood green and the original southallgreen,my gt aunt in my 1917 farm photo in area had eye taken out by pony trap whip accident when 17.married twice lived to95 took snuff born 1881 cranford lane old crowded tiny cottages condemned they moved to council houses in 30s 2 shill week rent 19 shillings6 pence week rent council 3 bed hse 1927 no gas no elect.candles fire...victorian manual workers he eventually conceded to pay rates and only elect downstairs after kids went to work factories.nan ironing light bulb ceiling blanket table.I used candle to go upstairs

not tuck all hair in as I remember my family

11/12.
Can anyone throw any further light on this?
Is there an archive somewhere giving the history of Ticklers?

ticklers jam factory and welcome any advice on how to do this.I'm sure i have relatives living today that i don't even know about. My great grandparents names were Earnest and Mary Ridgway.

s etc.
Hope this is of interest to old Southallians.

houses alphab list and rented labourers places alphabet list...and streets in rows houses factories all shops

legion new heston rd up from the church wonder if sola as they called him was cousin to your author family.my family tree work of 30 yrs has many meads... census church bks local

gged it was off next day.
Thanks for your e-mail,
Len

ed into our air raid shelter for safety!

tball - but not very well), and Sunday Youth Club.
For anyone who went to the Sunday Club, if they are not already aware, there is a re-union every year, organised by Archie Ross.

e for me!"

Alternatively:

"Climb climb up Sunshine Mountain", etc

gle maps street view of the area,quite interesting to see the area. Featherstone Rd school is being demolished.
Lots of memories, mostly good, but life was a lot different then.

mily cannot find any photos of old pub was pulled down

or.play 21.salavation army of old aunts adelaide citadel.so northcotepub we bought war cry from them.given to kids with pepsi cola.google maps earth shows close ups of west ave alexand and northcote ave etc and high st today

Saxon Road #2	by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 22-Aug-2009
Hi everyone,spoke to my mum Gwen, and she spoke to her sister Jean, ref, names from Saxon Road. These are the ones they remember: Eileen, Barbara, And Leslie Mcnab. Audrey Hollis. Freddie and Peter Knott. Bobby, Johnny and Maureen Macmillan. Esther Frazer. David Smith. Mrs. Woodage. Lily Burns. Brian and Max Tonge. Ernie Sharpe. Gwen remembers a German lady who lived at the bottom of Saxon Road. I f i find out more will let you know. Regards Steve ... more >> Re: Saxon Road #2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Aug-2009 steve your mum might remember the men who were about 40 in the 1950s.from northcote ave or saxon.they used northcote alms all time used to be friends of my male family acres..jack roache..mr rowbottom and jack hills wife and 2 daughter jennifer b 1948 and other born 1950.they moved to cuckoo estate he always drove one of those very early model black cars

There are two Southall noticeboards	by davo (Member 10030212) on 3-Aug-2009
Hi all ,Did you know there are 2 Southall noticeboards on this site? If you go to the main Knowhere site and navigate your way to "London and inside M25" then to Greater London and scroll down to Southall you will find another noticeboard .Its not as active as this one but you guys might find something worth looking at if you scroll through it . Cheers Dave C

Lady Margaret Pub	by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 30-Jul-2009
Just to let you know that the Lady Margaret pub is now to be converted into a doctors surgery and pharmacy, according to the West London Camra people. I remember when an episode of Z-cars was filmed there and i got all of their autographs. The camra website lists a lot more pubs in Southall that are either closed or being demolished, for flats and care homes. Yvonne i was wrong about Civil Egineer pub, it is of course situated on the Ruislip Road. My memory must be getting worse. ... more >> Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jul-2009 ok it does a trade every year has events in reasonable area for punters.even though no woodrow any more becoming flats...white hart does trade end yeading lane and other end yeading grapes now beefeater pub restaurant keeps a trade Re: Lady Margaret Pub by christina warwick (Member 10239472) on 14-Aug-2009 Does the plough in norwood still exist.It was our local. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by josie (Member 10235627) on 14-Aug-2009 If you mean The Plough opp the Church in Norwood Green yes it's still there. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2009 they have village green day there every 11 july ought to get together see the old place again.plough green Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 15-Aug-2009 The Plough is still definitely there, opposite St Mary's Church in Tentelow Lane. Norwood Green Annual Village Day is always the second Saturday in July, so next year will be 11 July. Would be good to put some faces to names, so anyone who can make it, come along early afternoon and rendevouz at the tea tent, which is run by St Mary's Church. (I help organise the tea tent, so I'm always around). Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Aug-2009 phyl.last week wessex arch sent me all the pages on gladwin cottage listed that got pulled down ....1961 think my wingrove of 1800s in almshouses there was pulled down 1961 frogmore...wessex os maps 1800s 1900s...are good of the triangle green and whole norwood land patch all along canal and was brickfields.......cluster of dwellings woodbine shown..13 dwellings crowded there behind beside post o ffice...my ackers was at number 13 should imagine one room ish...other labourers places only had one outdoor tap between them all ... more >> Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Aug-2009 Don't forget the other Plough in North Road-I lived almost opposite it. As I recall, in later years the licensees were the Verrinders. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 16-Aug-2009 I have a photograph taken about 1912 of my husbands mother and her siblings standing outside The Plough North Rd. Her father Robert Dean had just taken over as Licensee and the sign shows his name and Sich's Chiswick Ales over the door.His father Henry Dean was the "beerkeeper" before him. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 16-Aug-2009 I have a photograph taken about 1912 of my husbands mother and her siblings standing outside The Plough North Rd. Her father Robert Dean had just taken over as Licensee and the sign shows his name and Sich's Chiswick Ales over the door.His father Henry Dean was the "beerkeeper" before him. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 16-Aug-2009 I have a photograph taken about 1912 of my husbands mother and her siblings standing outside The Plough North Rd. Her father Robert Dean had just taken over as Licensee and the sign shows his name and Sich's Chiswick Ales over the door.His father Henry Dean was the "beerkeeper" before him. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 16-Aug-2009 Don't know what happened there. It's come up three times lol. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Aug-2009 dilys dean 1912..1920s he wasnot landlord old oak pub 1920s was he..my photo charabang to southend easter gdad and his friend landlord next to him... 30 local men..bring all our photos to 11 july fete.best wishes dean is name we know..my gdad using ploughpub 1912 when his first son born woodbine dwelling.where postbox is outside now..best wishes.keep up the memoir bk well done .interesting life you have had Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Aug-2009 fullers of chiswick roundabout brewery at river.was brew of northcote alms.huge rich fullers smell when they delivered barrels there into huge trap door out front down to cellar Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 17-Aug-2009 Talking of pubs the lovely old pub The Plough in Norholt was burnt to the ground over the week-end. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 18-Aug-2009 I remember The Plough very well. When I worked at Taylor Woodrow back in the late 50's and 60's I was friends with Barry and Sylvia (can't remember their surname now), but they married very young (I was a bridesmaid) and took over as licensees of The Plough after Barry's parents. At that time they were the youngest licensees in the country. They had their wedding reception in The Plough. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Aug-2009 their wedding in historic st mary no doubt.much changed in victorian times but our ancestors.norwood green labourers 10 approx children in those days..baptism books are good at northamton row..but burials does not seem enough room there..havelock not built beginning 1800s.so graveyd st mary then is there...wingroves....lucky with heston still large there and other side of family plot records all a vailable there 1800s,thanks ... more >> Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 22-Aug-2009 With reference to The Plough Norwood Green and the Deans. Yes the landlord at around 1911 and later was the brother of my hubby's grandfather.The Deans were quite well known in the brewery trade.I think there were Deans at The Plough Norwood green for quite some time. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 25-Aug-2009 I passed the Wolf pub last night and it would appear to be closed so another pub in Southall gone I would say there are seven left I maybe wrong (1) Red Lion) (2) Three H orseshoes) (3) The Hamborough) (4) The Lamb) (5) Prince of Wales (6) Junction Arms (7) The Plough ... more >> Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 25-Aug-2009 I thought of four more The Glassey Junction The Beehive Lord Allenby The Plough (North Rd.) Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Aug-2009 only the ...old oak tree pub the common....and the north star northhyde..which replaced old north star pub pulled down just after 1950 Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 25-Aug-2009 Yvonne I forgot the Royal Oak I thought the North Star came under Heston we passed last night on the way to Ealing Hospital and my son remarked how quite it was in there I enjoy your comments on Knowhere my speciality were shops but I seemed to have run out the Pathe newsreel shows South Rd all the old shops we knew. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Aug-2009 yes couple times we have been in oak it is quiet..northhyde is a nuisance thing when looking up people and family tree.heston church would baptise being parish.then hayes southall had all the big change to borough hillingdon hayes..now google says north star southall address and ub postcode..such incredible long lane round to M4 fern lane so that end southern bit of northhyde must be heston.I alwa ys have to look up double records Uxbridge register district and Brentford reg dist and 2 or 3 lots parish churches there deal with northhyde.best wishes ... more >> Re: Lady Margaret Pub by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 25-Aug-2009 Hi Len & Co.;-Love the Pub Crawl, which seems to be less and less every year. Did not know that the Wolf was closed. Was not that long ago the Beaconsfield Arms was pulled down. Mind you even in Hounslow where I am now we have lost three in the past couple of months, the Crown & Sceptre on the Staines Road,the Shire Horse, Hanworth Road, and the Black Horse, Lampton Road, all now boarded up. I thi nk it's a combination of two or three things A]Trouble, B]the price of a pint and C]which I think is the best,youre not allowed to smoke inside now because it's not healthy, so have to stand outside and inhale the traffic fumes !!! ... more >> Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Aug-2009 Len: I lived almost opposite The Plough in North Road.My first and only alcoholic drink from there was on VJ night, when I was 17(dad brought me one outside in the garden)-A lemon shandy! As an adult I never used it. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Aug-2009 Just out of interest, does anyone know if the "Waggon & Horses" past Bankside, (which probably comes under Hayes) is still there. My mum and dad used to walk there on a summer's evening and I can remember playing in the gardens with my brother which were all grass! Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2009 seems to be there,they are calling it 15 uxbridge rd on left from the bridge.just before springfield rd.there used to be greeting card factory there 1960 my aunt worked there.tony and I went down springfield couple months ago nature trail ponds large open spaces..at end rd large sikh hindu private school...pub is called also hayes gate..... perhaps that refers to toll gate that used to be there.w agons main london rd 1900s uxbridge to holborn covent gdn.tel no also for it ... more >> Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 26-Aug-2009 Pauline sorry to say the Waggon and Horses no longer, demolished passed it last night I remarked to my son as we came along the Uxbridge Rd. he did not know it had gone came through the broadway at 9pm couldn't move celebrating Ramadam the old White Hart gone all boarded up. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Aug-2009 What a shame Len, but thanks for that. The other thing which keeps bugging me is, what was outside the "White Hart" in the courtyard. Was it a statue of a white hart or a framed picture? I just can't get it in my mind. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 26-Aug-2009 Hi there;-Yes shame about the Wagon & Horses, there used to be a block of cottages next to it many moons ago, known obviously as Wagon Cottages, some of my ancestors lived in them, think it was the Clarks, or perhaps Stonestreets' will have to check. The Sikh School at the bottom of Springfield Rd. used to be a Catholic School, Our Lady & St. Anselm, an old neighbour of mine's daughter went there. As for the Greetings Card factory at the top,it was Wilsons, my uncle Les Sceeny Worked there. While for a while my dad and another uncle worked for the E.M.I. Ministry of Defence Works in Springfield Rd.Incidentely, the large building at the top known as Hayes Gate House is owned by the chap who owns Sunrise Radio, he was going to make it into a Hotel, it has a huge ballroom on the ground floor, I carried out a bit of remedial work there a couple of years back following a break-in, still empty as far as I know. ... more >> Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 26-Aug-2009 Pauline it was a statue in the centre of the pub of a White Hart the Red Lion looked busy as we passed last night my son gets very irate at the way the town gone he was born in Perivale Mat.hospital spent his childhood in Westbury Ave.joined the Police in 1979 after leaving Greenford Grammar now in Plymouth Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2009 greenford grammar my cousin denise left there about 1972.career nestles now top manager has been going europe for them for several yrs.she started hayes then york then derbyshire carlyle croydon..main 6th form college there now good prospectus nice photos Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 26-Aug-2009 Waggon and Horses was another pub run by the Deans in late 1800s early 1900s Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Aug-2009 Len Goddard: Len, this will sound a daft question, But are you in the UK at present? I have a very good reason for asking. If you contact me, do so on my home e-mail site, not the London one. Mike Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2009 if any of these pubs not boarded up.scotsman scotts rd ..george and dragon high st..black dog kings st...lord wolsely dudley rd...the thatch lady margaret rd...3 tuns the green...havelock arms king st...apparently new type one market tavern western internaional mkt hayes rd Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2009 dilys do you know the landlord of old oak tree pub the common at canal 1920.he is on my photo 30 regulars charabang with gdad they were friends .my aunt did tell me will know as soon as hear the name thought it was something like dean Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 27-Aug-2009 Michael, I had my e-mail scammed I now have a new e-mail which I sent to you my new E-mail. please ignore any e-mails from my previous address as of pm on the 26th of August. I am sorry about this and I have reported it to yahoo. i am unable to get into my old e-mail address so if you have sent me any mail i am unable to reply. I hope this answers your query about where I am . Regards Len Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 27-Aug-2009 Michael, I had my e-mail scammed I now have a new e-mail which I sent to you my new E-mail. please ignore any e-mails from my previous address as of pm on the 26th of August. I am sorry about this and I have reported it to yahoo. i am unable to get into my old e-mail address so if you have sent me any mail i am unable to reply. I hope this answers your query about where I am . Regards Len Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Sep-2009 As we've been talking about Pubs, I found it interesting to note the following typical Opening Hours in Pubs after WW11 broke out. 6pm - 10.30pm Monday - Saturday (no 'daytime hours') and 12pm - 2pm, and 7pm - 10pm Sundays Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Sep-2009 yes tony remembers 7pm sunday night shift..also the small clubs that were about in the halls with beer drinks and bingo or dance.time will tell at hospitals if alcohol related deaths illnesses in future by all day drinking.at least with restaurant pubs.. food with alcohol takes the stress off kidneys and liver Re: Lady Margaret Pub by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Apr-2010 Does anyone remember the old engineers arms at the canal bridge across canal from Taylor woodrows timber sheds. I recall gravel hoppers next to it the brickwork painted black. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-May-2010 denis.......is that civil engineer pub next to was head office taylor woodrow.....pub still there does carvery etc...lays far bac k off ruislip rd...the taylor office block gone ...flats now..........there and at spikes...loads woodsheds long planks wood barges took.........gravel hoppers not seen..........further west along was byron pub layed far back off rd.shop now grocers in front they filme d geoge cole dennis waterman minder was on bus saw it..tv show..burnt down big estate there joining far back huge willowtree estate school docs etc..to bankside fields..........everybit green gone to houses ... more >> Re: Lady Margaret Pub by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-May-2010 Yvonne I mean the old Engineers Arms knocked down 1950ish to make way for present new Engineers arms Re: Lady Margaret Pub by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-May-2010 Yvonne Byron Pub no knocked down Re: Lady Margaret Pub by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-May-2010 Sorry that should read Byron pub now knocked down. Re: Lady Margaret Pub by StuartW (Member 10245696) on 19-May-2010 My Nan and Grandad ran the Lady Margaret back in the early 60's (must've been around then as my Dad was around 18.. Their names were Jim and Marie Paton...would love to know what it was like back then - I used to hear about it but never saw old pictures... Dad (Brian Wells) also used to drink in the Scotsman and Plough - I think late 70's early 80s they were both managed by the same guy - Peter someone...we bought one of his Alsatian's pups. Dad also grew up in/around the Featherstone Arms in the 40's/50's... ... more >>

Northcote Avenue 1953-1965 1970-1993	by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 29-Jul-2009
Hi Pauline Sykes, i will add some names to who i can remember who lived in Northcote Ave. Just curious as to what number you lived at. regards steve Re: Northcote Avenue 1953-1965 1970-1993 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Jul-2009 Hi Steve, I lived at No.153 but we lived there from about 1937 to 1952! I know John Ive still lives there (he was across the road from us), but I would think most of my neighbours would have moved on. If you know any names that have been there for a long time, I will know their surnames. Thank you. Re: Northcote Avenue 1953-1965 1970-1993 by Ron Cox (Member 10234401) on 30-Jul-2009 Steve Having trouble with your Email address! RON Re: Northcote Avenue 1953-1965 1970-1993 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jul-2009 114 northcoe ave opposite you 1952 joan norman brooks living there with mum widow emma whelums as her accent would say.joan had 2 by then raymond susanne.last one born in front room angela.angel because rhesus.all blood drained in front room at birth and new blood.my aunt was called to go down there to help.sundays she always took her son there to see gran emma.joan and aunt sis used northcote pub so did emma go there..I went in 1957to house.older than ours ..at 1927 built west ave.so probably 1920 built.wood gate on bend in end rd.front hall down to kitchen left side big butler enamel sink on left .right side front back rooms.upstairs thought prob 4 small bedrooms..went to see joan 1980s died there breast cancer.kids had knocked through to one room.angela bought it and moved away ... more >> Re: Northcote Avenue 1953-1965 1970-1993 by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 30-Jul-2009 Ron what a complete plum i am. My e-mail of course is STEVEH1953@GMAIL.COM Re: Northcote Avenue 1953-1965 1970-1993 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Jul-2009 I'm afraid I don't remember Joan Brooks Yvonne in 1952. The only memory which stands out in my mind was my 21st birthday party. We invited most of our relatives and friends (all crowded into our small terraced house) and paid a man to play the piano and, I think, a banjo, for the whole evening. I bought a sponge cake made into a two and a one from a lovely little cake shop somewhere near the lib rary in Hayes, and we all had a fantastic evening. All the windows were open as it was so hot, and I can remember all the neighbours saying how much they enjoyed listening to all the old songs even though it went on till quite late. We left Northcote Avenue soon after, and my sister was so upset because she had to leave Dormers Wells school and all the sports! ... more >> Re: Northcote Avenue 1953-1965 1970-1993 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jul-2009 lovely 21st well done.joan had only just got married at time she may have been lodging with inlaws at first..funny her daughter suz came to my 21st 1970 conservative club next to town hall.she bought 21key shape charm for charm bracelet they all put charm on..Ha 30 yrs later was burgled they got it police said melt down get cheap money.twice broken into at 10 yr intervals 2 houses.lots security no w Ha.never heard of such things in the 50s..best wishes pauline ... more >> Re: Northcote Avenue 1953-1965 1970-1993 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jul-2009 yes there was the lucky huge field back of dormers and track.path down to dinner hall..my aunt and older cousins went to dormers. but bit different yrs to your sister.born 1925 to 1938 ackers..school also walked us to tennis spikes and sports day huge track spikes.icecream was sold at side pavillion.and huge tall silver slide stuck to on way down in boiling heat scorch ha..roundabout swings.not u nusual things they have now.and be careful not bash head tarmac or concrete surface ... more >> Re: Northcote Avenue 1953-1965 1970-1993 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Jul-2009 You're right about that slide Yvonne, it did burn your 'but' if you went too fast in the heat. My brother (who was six and a half) was in the playground with me when the siren went off at the start of the war in 1939. He wouldn't get off that slide however much I told him to. All the children had left the playground except us - the parents had come running in to get them. My father then came ru nning in and was not very pleased with my brother. As for the swings, the boys often used to get on them, two at a time, and I used to get so scared that something would snap as they got higher and higher. That was life then, and it was so good. ... more >> Re: Northcote Avenue 1953-1965 1970-1993 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jul-2009 slide they always said it was dangerous too high.my crazy hyper cousin charlie yr younger than me would be down there,,I would push the twin pram to the park swings to get the kids away while they did all the washing and everything.aunt doll had her 3 close together.first then twins only yr apart.so they called them triplet girls all in pram together.dressed the same...twins born each side midni ght .happy summer hot birthday.special one coming along little later on. ... more >> Re: Northcote Avenue 1953-1965 1970-1993 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-May-2010 Spickes bridge park pavillion now demolished

Criminal damage	by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 29-Jul-2009
Does anybody remember the Civil Engineneer pub in Yeading Lane getting severely trashed. Just wondering as i know the why and if anybody is interested. Re: Criminal damage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jul-2009 byron pub ruisip rd off lady margaret.got burnt down after derelict.and northcote derelict for yrs.lived larch cres yeading knew of your pub 1962.pub by taylor woodrow top lady margaret pub still there Re: Criminal damage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jul-2009 the industry inn half way down yeading lane.west side Re: Criminal damage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Oct-2009 Have heard it said that the Target, Northolt has also gone the same way, but unconfirmed. The Civil Engineer was where the 232 buses turned around and went back down Lady Margaret Rd through Southall to Hounslow l think The biggest culprit of criminal damage was the "Greater London Council" who took the London bus building contracts away from our wonderful AEC. l was in the City of London on Tuesday and saw 2 x AEC routemeasters still working there as 'historic vehicles' on route 15. Nobody has built buses as well as that since, nor any that could possibly have lasted so long. ... more >> Re: Criminal damage by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 22-Oct-2009 Apparently The Target is now a McDonalds Re: Criminal damage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Oct-2009 Just re-read the original message on this thread. The Civil Engineer wasn't in Yeading Lane - it was on the Ruislip Road, just west of the canal bridge which itself was just west of the top of Lady Margaret Road. The pub in Yeading Lane was a different one (not the White Hart at the crossroads/roundabout where the Hayes to Harrow Road crossed the Ruislip Road either. Are you getting confused with the Willow Tree?? ... more >> Re: Criminal damage by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2009 yeading lane industry half way down....top of yeading lane north at crossroads roundabout now is still trading white hart...when the landlord died they took his hearse 3 times around roundabout by the pub...waited to go to work on bus in traffic....//...civil engineer still trading ruislip rd at canal side of old taylor woodrow offices...willow tree pulled down this year down bottom of what used to be willow tree lane...yes dylis think macdonalds target now and that ironbridge pub used to be greenford hotel pub now macdonalds ... more >> Re: Criminal damage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Oct-2009 Hi Keith. Regarding the Routemasters built at AEC Southall. My dad worked at the AEC in Walthamstow before 1930 and moved to the Southall works in 1933. He was a chargehand fitting Crankshafts into buses, and it would be nice to think he might have had a hand in working on the Routemasters. He didn't talk much about his work during the war and was on nightshifts mostly. He retired in 1966. Re: Criminal damage by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Oct-2009 Pauline He would have almost certainly have worked on Routemasters. l don't know when Routemaster production finished, but many were built in the early 60's as they were originally intnded as Trolleybus replacements etc., The 607 trolleybus along the Uxbridge Road converted to Routemaster route 207 in 1961 l think, so he woud certainly have worked on that batch. Perhaps production even finished in 1966 when he retired, l do not know. ... more >> Re: Criminal damage by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Oct-2009 Thanks for that information Keith. I'll pass it on to my family for their records.

Recent visit to Southall	by STEVE HILL (Member 10239184) on 25-Jul-2009
Hi everyone from Souhall. Just to let you know that i replied to Ron Cox's message. If i can help in any way let me know. Have seen some messages about what Southall would be like now. Well at age 56 i bought a new motorbike three months ago and went for a ride, reached Heathrow and thought, what the hell. See if any of my old neighbours were still around. Crikey i must have been having a funny tu rn, no one in their right mind would want to go back. Will be some time before i do that again, and that was after 12 years. What a SxxxHole it has become. Mind you it was heading that way anyway. Did see one of my old neighbours Pat Hadler, still alive and kicking. had a good chat and then headed back home to Hampshire and relatively safer riding conditions. Some of the old names are still living in Northcote Avenue, so if i can jog someones memory about anything i will try, bearing in mind that i was born in '53. Regards to all Steve Hill Ps only live 5 minutes away from my mum, Gwen Hill, Now Gwen Chandler. ... more >> Re: Recent visit to Southall by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 25-Jul-2009 Hi Mate I wrote some years ago on here just what festering dump Southall now is, I left in 1976 it was pretty bad then. It really is a shame Southall of old was great place with great people and stacks of industry and jobs. No association with Southall anymore since my Dad died in 2005, I have many happy memories of Southall so I try and forget what it is like now

chiltern open air museum st giles chalfont	by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2009
excellent place 1940s prefab and inside all preserved and veg garden///school marm school house of 1914 1920..so strict she had grown men quaking quil pen slate boards.fantastic authentic she checked our clean hand no jewelry..experience of early school..old church coffin carrier of village toll house hayes bridge had toll and uxbridge and hounslow..they have kids games roll the hoop e tc etc so much there.brick making handmade.chair making of high wycombe.all demonstrated ... more >>

Check out London Sound Survey	by IMR (Member 10239108) on 22-Jul-2009
After love or money? Never mind, have a listen instead to the capital's everyday soundtrack on London Sound Survey: http://www.soundsurvey.org.uk Hustlers, beggars, football chants, pub singalongs, wildlife, street preachers, market traders, sound maps of London and lots more. Go there!

southall broadway	by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jul-2009
len pauline dilys.just found google family tree site of heard lucy groves of southall.photo broadway 1900 trolley bus lines.and left side teas then 2 canopies down of shops..no traffic lights but town hall on left Re: southall broadway by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jul-2009 Hi Yvonne, I found the photo of Southall broadway on Lucy Groves Heard family tree on google. Thank you. It was very interesting. I was wondering when the trams were eventually replaced, and lo and behold it mentions it in Jonathan Oates book on "Southall." They were replaced by trolley buses in November 1936. I can remember, as a child, nearly tripping over the tramlines when we got off a tram so mewhere in the high street. I remembered it wasn't an ordinary bus! ... more >> Re: southall broadway by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2009 pauline glad you found it teas a lace opposite butlers 1900..there is another trams photo 1905 looking in opposite direction towards hayes bridge..so electric trolley bus as well.our home the previous man worked for tube trains.he made our rugged cottage style fireplace all across one wall.he said he went to uxbridge and got free genuine old stone pieces that were part of the trams something to do with the track..bit like old cobble stones used to be strong hard wearing...Ha! looks ok.my cracknell cousin in canada now came back to find grandfather grave hanwell off uxbridge rd.he went to see oates at ealing library and they discussed the tale that he was run over accident by tram along ealing there.best wishes to you ... more >> Re: southall broadway by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2009 perhaps was trolley bus still at 1960 broadway to dormers.think I payed child fare thrupence..six side coin.little cranked ticket machine around her neck.room upstairs and she used to stamp her foot above drivers cabin and he went..then 607 bus then 207 bus.now at ruislip we have little bus and one lady driver doing it all.national free senior bus pass now... just used it on isle wight..open top t o needles..acton depot once year have always done open day all transport history and items and covent garden transport museum ... more >> Re: southall broadway by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2009 yes it says diesal bus 1960.so had both for school.and saturday west ealing rouses for needlework dress blouse material and patterns.white tough linen for the inevitable bib apron corners made to perfection for cooking washing and washing up.melting moments drop biscuits.bread.scones.rock cakes.apple dumplings short pastry bramley apple.make real puff pastry.made xmas cake for gcse o level .teac her gave me lift home to grapes pub hayes on her way continue to her hillingdon ... more >> Re: southall broadway by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Jul-2009 Hi Yvonne, you mentioned something I had completely forgotten about when the conductor used to stamp his foot twice when he was upstairs in the bus to let the driver know that he could go! Can you imagine that happening today - all the kids would be stamping their feet! Re: southall broadway by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2009 pauline yes great chuckle at your coment the kids would yes.children seen and not heard. a lot of us would not have dared to the adults it was drummed into us at birth and even swing 60s of the first teenager culture passed me by livig with gran you were just kid long time then they had adolescence adult and all generations back got married before 18..worked age 14 and our gdads were victorian wil d countryside run about kids leather strap belt only just had to be touched and face and tone voice.so two world wars the men were already subservient before join services.worked sec school 32 yrs lovely teachers curric amazing local kids and c of e but spoilt so a few with lack simple respect. ... more >> Re: southall broadway by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Jul-2009 Hi Yvonne. That's another thing I'd forgotten - the dreaded leather strap. It was used initially for sharpening my dad's cut-throat razor. He never ever used it on us, but as you say, it was the threat of getting it! Re: southall broadway by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2009 yes it was leather belt strap held up gdad trousers .he was manual worker born 1890 so his dad before they were all strict.my dad and uncle were pussy cats quiet men they had suffered as kids gruff victorian father..many had 7 and more kids in those days over crowded one up one down.kids out all day.sit at correct place table.1920s meat chop for him sausage for kids.nan got less.but they lived to 87 no cholesterol.1950s with my strict aunt family they were so much the adults it was their life their house they all worked strict factory all their lives .you were nobody so much really just the kids.go school every day nobody was ever off sick.go to work get married have kids.that was it. I did break the mould a bit.. ... more >>

O'Leary's	by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 5-Jul-2009
Anyone remember the O'Leary girls. Lived in White St. Maureen,Eileen,Doreen, and Rona. Re: O'Leary's by Alan Ansell (Member 10052800) on 7-Feb-2010 I remember the O'learys. My brother Ron went out with Maureen for a while. Ron has lived in Reading since about 1963, and I am living in Toronto, Canada since 1979. Re: O'Leary's by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 16-May-2010 They were my cousins,on the Welsh side although their dad was Irish. Lived in White Street down the bottom of The Straight. Lost touch about 50 years ago.I went to Maureens wedding. She married a chap that used to live in the Trinity Road area but can't remember his name.I don't know what happened to any of them after that. Re: O'Leary's by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 6-Jun-2010 Hi, I remember Doreen O'Leary, went to school with her at Western Road Secondary school. She always had nice dresses; think someone in her family was a dressmaker. Havent seen her since 1945!!

roll honour	by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jul-2009
just seen dr oates entry.featherstone rd sch used to be in entrance hall.southall norwood men volunteered fight force 1914 to 15 16 feb 1921 unveiled by sir william robinson 3500 srved 800 killed list composed 1915 in ealing library...memorials dept uk wrote to me hat southall could not afford to have names carved so just these lists available..my family member on feath sch plaque.they wrote said still there 2000 but later said moved ... more >> Re: roll honour by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jul-2009 feath plaque ld boys and masters who perished in conflict..says bronze statue of soldier stolen 1982 Re: roll honour by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jul-2009 st mary boys catholic orphanage convent way southall lane.all sources for years say large stone war memorial also missing stood outside..so 2 borough ealing places lost their important pieces.went to pitshanger mus the priceless martin brothers large fountain pottery was damaged in manor park.now behind glass in museum..important items ealing council please Re: roll honour by Mary (Member 10251022) on 7-Feb-2011 My dad's brother Alfred died in the first world war at Bucquoy, France. My dad was only six months old when his brother was killed aged 18 and he never knew him. Alfred Why went to Featherstone Road School but his name was never included on the roll of honour. I wrote to the school to ask how I could get his name put on the roll but never got a response. I live in Australia as does my father w ho is now 92 years old. I visited northern France and found the whereabouts of Alfred's grave. He is on the roll of honour in Hertfordshire as this was the regiment he was with when he was killed. ... more >> Re: roll honour by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Mar-2011 MARY.....mr why........the featherstone memorial stone is still..has long lists names carved....soldier on top....it is now along the rd...at new featherstone primary.....western rd down by brent rd...the memorial is at front fence high stone..white....by pavement bus stop 105bus........memorials dept in google and borough ealing pages for memorials........good luck let them know..best wishes you and australia........commonwealth war graves will send you sheets on your relative..and free photos of his name in france..etc...... ... more >> Re: roll honour by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Aug-2011 commonwealth war graves maidenhead and their france branch will give you sheet info,,,and they look up soldiers book......feathers memorial is near pavement fence of new feathers primary western rd by grand junction pub brent rd..near canal....ealing library has list all southall died and st johns church does..with memorial on wall church.......southall green.....best wish

the tube H G sanders factory gordons rd1820 to late 1970s	by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jul-2009
says 1970 they had 150 yrs anniversary.pulled down now housing estate.john david miller worked there 1984 quality control.he says he was sure it was poisonous given the levels of aluminuim vapour emitted from extrusion machines when running at full tilt.1936 my uncle worked there died age 19 pneumonia hillingdon hospital.tube payed compensation it payed for elaborate stone etc at grave and funeral .nan kept his photo hanging living room always silver frame on the old fashioned picture frame rail hook and chain.his cousin rose only went there one day her mother would not let her go back.yellow effect there.grave havelock three there his parents joined him.we have all their photos ... more >> Re: the tube H G sanders factory gordons rd1820 to late 1970s by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jul-2009 to late 1980s or more meant to say,,toothpaste tubes etc Re: the tube H G sanders factory gordons rd1820 to late 1970s by thompson (Member 10241148) on 9-Nov-2009 I alway remember that this factory was refered to as "The Tube" by my mother Doll Thompson and my aunt Phyllis Rowbottom. Doll stated that the workers were paid "peice work" ie. for the amount of items pressed out. Re: the tube H G sanders factory gordons rd1820 to late 1970s by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 14-Nov-2009 My memory is that locals called it "the Choob"; not "The Tube"! Re: the tube H G sanders factory gordons rd1820 to late 1970s by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-May-2010 choob thats right 1936 my cousin lady went her mother would not let her go 2nd day toxic yellow etc..1936 my uncle age 19 there died lungs filled many pints fluid drained off hilling hosp pneumonia,,,tube payed compensation which payed for nice grave carvings verse cups..nan kept his photo silver frame wall picture rail chains hook all life..1970s on google man visited said how get away with sever e toxic conditions horrendous..to when 1980 closed ... more >>

trevor baylis the tv inventor	by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jul-2009
brought up southall during war .says every night was fireworks.never knew when airraid sirons go off.went to dormers.father engineer rubber works.swimming champion went to heston baths.5 am then go school late. 3 lates and got beating.so many cannings his hands raw.at 15 represented county championships.in paper so headmaster let him have as much time off as needed.lives eel pie island in thames b rentford richmond way.no children.left dormers no qualifications but now has 8 uni doctorates 5 masters degrees and couple visiting professorships all honorary.daily mail weekend article he was 68 then ... more >> Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 2-Jul-2009 Have you read his book "Clock This"? Very interesting. Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jul-2009 Dylis thankyou will try get it.so many went dormers not able to get in grammer and did well.1927 my family moved from south to north southall so they all went dormers.doll ackers born1925. 1936 would have gone there not many years after it opened.have latest prospectus interesting and photos.doll did laundry in old hut across path near air raid shelter.we still did basic laundry hygiene there 196 0.1950s they did stage shows .gilbert sullivan gondeliers. ... more >> Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 3-Jul-2009 There are a few pics in the book, one of him standing outside his home in Lady Margaret Rd.I got my book from ebay. I also went to Dormers Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jul-2009 dear dilys thankyou.he does not seem to age.he was on tv recently.lady marg so his father worked at rubber factory nearby.we were west ave I used to run past rubber at canal bridge spikes park because smell of sort of gas like was so powerful.dormers yes dad went there born 1921 so 1932.engineering but went war italy 1943 to 1947 cortina alps.worked heston airport after war jim acres.I ran across lady margaret rd.. smell of burning to dormers at time house on fire 1950s off there....live ruislip now have ALL local hist books ruislip and middx but only little bit on southall .have not been to oates at central library for some time..go next year when bit more time.best wishes ... more >> Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jul-2009 dilys did they have street party allendale//west ave we had coronation party 1953 tressels jellies kids out front uncle fred dressed up as clown.len said spikes bridge rd had street party ve day...on google earth street maps have zoomed in on west ave.our house not recognizable.modernised,, bit porch built on front they have bought them cheap and modernised but concrete front.there used to be no c ars at all only coalman icecreambike.corona fizz drinks lorry selling down street.so we had flowers all front lawn and yellow privet and green privet trimmed low .. lucky have some old photos of it ad back long garden veg salad ... more >> Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 4-Jul-2009 Hi Yvonne, yes we did have a street party in Allendale in 1953.Don't remember much about it except for jellies etc. and donkey rides. I don't think the weather was all that great.We bought house at 27 allendale and moved in 1991. We all had really good sized gardens.Most fronts are now concreted over.Very few car owners when I was young. Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jul-2009 1991 yes our family finished there1988 at 60.glad you had party.donkeys that was clever.yes google photos shows all concrete fronts now 2nd car up the garden,,no cars 1950s 1960s west ave.horse came along with feed bag for him.so all privet hedges and lawn flowers..back rows of veg salad and big flowers dahlias crysanth sw pea,..the men had all done gardening at school.and many of their fathers gr andfathers had been market gard ag labs before bricklaying and factories took over.eliz 1st called heston the wheatfields of england soil was so fertile.bread mills heston and farms up to norwood green and the original southallgreen,my gt aunt in my 1917 farm photo in area had eye taken out by pony trap whip accident when 17.married twice lived to95 took snuff born 1881 cranford lane old crowded tiny cottages condemned they moved to council houses in 30s 2 shill week rent 19 shillings6 pence week rent council 3 bed hse 1927 no gas no elect.candles fire...victorian manual workers he eventually conceded to pay rates and only elect downstairs after kids went to work factories.nan ironing light bulb ceiling blanket table.I used candle to go upstairs ... more >> Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jul-2009 dilys just read meads chapter on kids cinema and sweets and pocket money it is on google Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 5-Jul-2009 Remember the delivery horses because I had to go out with bucket and shovel after him for my dads rhubarb. Those were the days. Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jul-2009 and for the roses Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jul-2009 our marrows were nice not used so much now Re: trevor baylis the tv inventor by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 20-Jul-2009 I haven't read his book 'The Clock' I suppose I did not have the time.

ticklers jam southall	by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2009
just recd archive ticklers.founded 1878 grimsby and ..opened 1916 southall..1954closed southall 1956 bought by b.t.h.factory electrical for £400000.war song Oh its not the pack that you carry on your back.....or the gun upon your shou lder. if theres never any ham theres plum and apple jam...to make you feel your limbs are growing older.all women factory workers wore the turbon sweep scarf k not tuck all hair in as I remember my family ... more >> Re: ticklers jam southall by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 26-Jun-2009 My mum worked for Ticklers Jam and then Kearley & Tonge biscuits Re: ticklers jam southall by josie (Member 10235627) on 27-Jun-2009 My grand mother worked in ticklers jam,also had great aunt who worked in the pickle at kealey & Tonge, plus many other family including myself who worked in the biscuit. Re: ticklers jam southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jun-2009 nan ada acres worked ticklers with her cousins sarah lindsey daisy holder wallbanks 1927...must have got cheap jam the kids all had jam sandwiches lunch jam suet pudding and jam tarts.....and daughter sis rose willans acres worked supervisor kealey 1940s 1950s..... girls liked her she got their money up with piece work.brought tin mixed biscuits home for family and all kids friday Re: ticklers jam southall by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 28-Jun-2009 I am a little puzzled by the suggestion that Ticklers opened in Southall in 1916, because my wife's grandmother, Mary Palmer (nee Robinson), always said that she moved from Grimsby to Southall with Ticklers. In 1911 she was still living in Grimsby, and listed (in the census) as working in a jam factory, but in 1912 she married in Southall; so we have assumed that Ticklers opened in Southall in 19 11/12. Can anyone throw any further light on this? Is there an archive somewhere giving the history of Ticklers? ... more >> Re: ticklers jam southall by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 28-Jun-2009 David being an ex Navy man Ticklers to us was our cigarette issue it would appear our tobacco came in tins from Ticklers ask any ex RN what a Tickler is and he should say a cigarette. Have just bought the Jonathan Oates book titled Southall very interesting. Regards Len Re: ticklers jam southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2009 may well be 1912 opening southall busy jam needed for army contract..it is archive press sheets from ticklers archive grimsby...the press sheet says 1916 southall and also expanded to scotland...just recd large envelope of archive papers this week ticklers Re: ticklers jam southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2009 the grimsby council site is very proud of their museum display ticklers Re: ticklers jam southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jul-2009 yes on 1914 post office directory kellys t g tickler jam manufacturer scotts rd it says.the war many tins were needed servicemen.grimsby press article typed it slightly wrong when the article wrote of the southall closure Re: ticklers jam southall by Alan Ansell (Member 10052800) on 11-Jan-2010 My Mum Emily Ansell (nee Mansell) worked at Ticklers, and I, along with my brother Ron and sister Iris, worked at Kearley and Tonge biscuit factory in the 1950's I worked at Kearley's with Georgie Acres. Re: ticklers jam southall by terence patrick hewett (Member 10243212) on 17-Mar-2010 My dad was a foreman at Kearly & Tonge name of Jack Hewett Re: ticklers jam southall by ann Ridgway Scheu (Member 10247105) on 25-Apr-2010 Im trying to find some infomation on my grandmother Margaret Elizabeth Ridgway .I know nothing of her except for whats on my fathers birth certificate.She was an unmarried mother in 1936,and was working as a jam jar washer in southall.She named her son Henry.She lived in oswoald street southall.I think she had a sister called Doris.... I'm hoping to find records for the name of Ridgway working at ticklers jam factory and welcome any advice on how to do this.I'm sure i have relatives living today that i don't even know about. My great grandparents names were Earnest and Mary Ridgway. ... more >> Re: ticklers jam southall by ann Ridgway Scheu (Member 10247105) on 25-Apr-2010 Oswald street. Re: ticklers jam southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-May-2010 ann ..my nan was there 1936 ada acres but passed away now...many worked there...nan walked west ave to brent rd ticklers as yours did so passed oswald rd on way.........or bus down south rd......1912 it opened southall.from grimsby they have museum now on google...lots people worked both places...doubt they have list names....ticklers long closed southall...good luck... Re: ticklers jam southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Aug-2010 alan george acres may well be related.....george was gdad brother down by canal....brother was james who had 2 sons...their sons would have been a george....lived northhyde..down by ticklers kearley tong etc factories....would like contact george

Books about Southall	by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 24-Jun-2009
I have two very interesting books about Southall written by R J Meads who lived there. One is called Growing-up with Southall from 1904 and the other is called Southall 830-1982.Both are now out of publication but I believe Southall Library may have copies. Also if you put R J Meads in your search bar there is a very interesting article on The Maypole and Southall Green naming many of the old shop s etc. Hope this is of interest to old Southallians. ... more >> Re: Books about Southall by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 24-Jun-2009 It has probably already come up, but there is a very interesting tape (possibly DVD, by now), about old Southall. It was originally a cine film made by a member of the Abbott family (see Abbess furniture), in the late 1950's. Lots of interesting items and views in it. Re: Books about Southall by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 4-Jul-2009 I have this and have now transfered to cd.Got it sent to me by Southall historical soc. Re: Books about Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jul-2009 the leicester university project history.typed in google gives post office directory kellys 1914.it has my family norwood green renting old 2 room cottage 2 s 6 p week cochroaches so bad nan just married age 21 had to move out ..first 2 babies trying to have.old condemned pulled down eventually they were brickfields canal old navvy places..kellys at library also.has councillors gentry and private houses alphab list and rented labourers places alphabet list...and streets in rows houses factories all shops ... more >> Re: Books about Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jul-2009 meads.the gt aunt married tom little their daughter lived gordon rd..those first 4 babies born 1900 etc.he hung himself poverty.she maried solomen meads had 4 more babies..several meads.families.but she is of the right time turn of century..mary meads died age 95 I used to see her sundays.borders of southall but more heston people.she lived in queens head tiny old labourers cottages back of brit legion new heston rd up from the church wonder if sola as they called him was cousin to your author family.my family tree work of 30 yrs has many meads... census church bks local ... more >> Re: Books about Southall by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 19-Jul-2009 David, I sent you an e-mail did you receive it? Daemon mailer could not forward it. Reference the books one is titled'Foul Deeds & Suspicious Deaths in Ealing' author Jonathan Oates obtainable on Amazon the other book Hanwell & Southall very interesting reading regarding that lewd message on the site Pauline told me on the same day as it was posted my Grandson was here at the time and had it fla gged it was off next day. Thanks for your e-mail, Len ... more >> Re: Books about Southall by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 19-Jul-2009 Thanks Len. I can't understand why your email to me was rejected. However that doesn't matter now, and Mike Braden told me the name of another book: "Ealing, Acton, and Southall at War" by Denis Upton Re: Books about Southall by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 19-Jul-2009 Another very good read is "A Little Boys War" an autobiography by Roy Bartlett relating to his wartime experiences as a young boy living in Ealing.

straight	by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jun-2009
just checked google says own pub called the white lion

Manor Way	by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 17-Jun-2009
I have been reading the fascinating discussions about old Southall, but haven't contributed for some time. Most of you contributors appear to come from the North side of Southall. I lived in Manor Way, went to Western Road School, then Southall Grammar. Anyone else from my area? PS I do remember most of the features discussed, and I remember seeing a doodlebug flying over before I was dragg ed into our air raid shelter for safety! ... more >> Re: Manor Way by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 18-Jun-2009 I wondered what happened to you David it would appear everything happened over the North side I think because of the shops along the Broadway I did know a family in Manor Way they were Wheelers. I use to go to the Barn Mission in Norwood Rd. In 1935 I saw Gracie Fields open the Dominion my children went to St. Anselms school. Kind regards Len Re: Manor Way by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 18-Jun-2009 Hi Len, thanks for the comments. The Wheelers used to live at 10 Manor Way, and we lived at 9. Two of my sisters, Janet and Faith, both went to the Barn Mission in Norwood Road. Our oldest sister, Pat, went to Ebenezer Hall in Kingston Road, and I originally went there also, but subsequently changed to St John's, off King Street. Socialwise, I went to Derley Youth Club (for whom I played foo tball - but not very well), and Sunday Youth Club. For anyone who went to the Sunday Club, if they are not already aware, there is a re-union every year, organised by Archie Ross. ... more >> Re: Manor Way by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 18-Jun-2009 I went to Ebenezer Hall Sunday school.(Sunshine Corner) Still remember singing that. Mr Slater was the main man.He had the furniture shop in the Broadway. Re: Manor Way by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 20-Jun-2009 "Sunshine corner, oh its jolly fine, Its fr children under 99; All are welcome, Seata are given free. Come to Sunshine corner, Its the plac e for me!" Alternatively: "Climb climb up Sunshine Mountain", etc ... more >> Re: Manor Way by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 21-Jun-2009 That's the one, except I thought for a long while that seats are given free was sins forgiven free so I used to feel quite holy when I left there ready to sin all over again lol! Re: Manor Way by John W (Member 10082501) on 24-Jun-2009 Hi David, I lived in Wentworth Rd from 1945 to 1062 After I got married I moved to Hayes and then Seattle in 1967. I know live near San Francisco. Do you remember the scout hut next to Ives newsagents? I was in the scouts for a while, with the rather grand name of 'Lady Jerseys Own, 1st Norwood'. I had lived in Queens Rd and went to Featherstone Rd school until I was eight, I was looking on Goo gle maps street view of the area,quite interesting to see the area. Featherstone Rd school is being demolished. Lots of memories, mostly good, but life was a lot different then. ... more >> Re: Manor Way by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jul-2009 featherstone being demolished you said..letter to them 2000 said wat mem plaque in school still there..next letter from them said they were moving and never got reply to say where plaque going Re: Manor Way by Ronald Gollop (Member 10241737) on 20-Oct-2009 Hello David, do u remember me Ron Gollop from Heathway? I bet you remember me with all my brothers and sisters. Luckiy for u I am the last man standing. We came down to southall in January this year for a look around. Popped into Manor way, didn't expect to recognize so much. Living in Yorkshire these days. Am a Post Master. Get back to me if you want to remember the old days. Ron Re: Manor Way by David A. Cavell (Member 10037516) on 14-Nov-2009 I have only just noticed this link, Ron, and, as you may have seen already, I posted a comment to you elsewhere, as I definitely remember your family. PS Do you remember Mrs Rae (I think that was her name), who lived a couple of doors along from you, and sold "pop" (mineral waters) from her house? Re: Manor Way by Rosalind Steel (Member 10274373) on 3-Jun-2012 My father was the minister at the Barn Mission from 1956 to 1965 and I remember Faith Cavell. Didn't she marry a Leslie McDonald and become a missionary?

shops northhyde 1925	by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jun-2009
along by old north star pub.uncle jim hackers had sweet shop.my cousin helped sell sweets..think it was out of the front sache window of his labourers cottage 10 northhyde.mother betsey hackers just along 5 north star cottage brickfields from 1973 to 1923.then son bachelor george akers took over.any louisa eggleton of bedfont and jim family about son james married northhyde girl blackwell large fa mily cannot find any photos of old pub was pulled down ... more >> Re: shops northhyde 1925 by terence patrick hewett (Member 10243212) on 17-Mar-2010 There was a shop opposite the North Star that used to trade from what looked like an old glass paned greenhouse. Re: shops northhyde 1925 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2010 new north star pub.....long way round and on bend....row of 1950s60s shops there.........what yr greenhse shop...........old north star was on bend by regis rd hump bridge canal..........did not know if shop opposite ..was there...long row terraced dwellings number 10 by pub was sweet shop 1920s..any info please thanks

spicers undertaker	by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jun-2009
dear sheila iddenden and ladies messages..yes spicers still at greenford high street many years now..we used and 1936 and times used the southall spicers.heath bradbury know the names ..heath originated northhyde and behind at cranford lane..golflinks we were there 1947 to 1961 acres willans as were mattingly. charlie bridges and christine harman

1952	by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jun-2009
dear pauline and all.feb 1952 kings train body passed under southall station my aunt and family went.so sandringham to windsor.pauline were you sykes family opposite willans or is that your married name..do remember sykes name.jack hills bill roache. rt warren builder were names around that area.northcote pub xmas club to save for holiday.barrel beer was on kitchen table.play rummy cards midnight or.play 21.salavation army of old aunts adelaide citadel.so northcotepub we bought war cry from them.given to kids with pepsi cola.google maps earth shows close ups of west ave alexand and northcote ave etc and high st today ... more >>