ary pity it did not survive..now jubilee has little library read electoral role there.thanks info..1959 bbc tv had kids brains trust there.scared shy vacant with fear I was on stage.bedlam to get a question right..group of 6/7 of us age 10 approx.it was at shakl hall

that animal in my mind's eye, snorting at us as we hid behind some bushes! We also used to pick loads of blackberries. I remember being left with a large OXO tin nearly full of them while my mum and aunt were picking them. When they got back, I had eaten most of them, and was not very popular!

thorgan..he whistled and combtissue play and spoons

ho was about to give birth.

piles wood stacked....many swam over at open air pool southall rec...rickmansworth aquadrome and stokers lock canal.over looking meadows chiltern hills..in may from africa,,long tail bright yellow wagtails getting insects from canal wood lock gates..lots pleasure narrow boats now

ly.gdadacres rt warren wincot detached hse half built 1920s.up by windmill lane end tentlow.4 men on photo if neal.love from yvonne and tony

e know if still there I dont drive

way along on right hand side ..took photos but nothing else seems all newer.hounslow library replied not know much of old north star

of the above via your e.mail

cottage 1940s family went to see him and large family he had along there.yes census and kelly po directory show your birch family.my gt gran would have known them well.ackland joined up 1914 left the pub baby rose born son ed born 1916.ackland died arras after being wounded and sent back in for last big push died last day war.canada his daughter and my cousin the gson have visited grave.all 4 pub owners ackland brothers died 1st w war.all joined up 1914.always quessed star pub on that open ground corner going near bridge at old oak.because my aunt as children by old oak had to walk visit gran and yes she was not far first bit of long north hyde lane.emediate email to my canada cousin now so v v very grateful.lots love to you

memorial places none of us have found large war mem outside farm of convent orphanage.boys names on..google refers to its very bad loss disappeared southall lane entrance

t pub nearly .1869 betsy age 17 was first at brickfields.1974 first baby.we have our photos of them all.nan had first baby 1911 there with motherinlaw.it died 3 mths.she moved out 6 babies more survived.1923 betsy died bachelor son george akers few yrs later moved out council flat along there.was army over 10yrs.birch have seen that name so many times in my work.what happened to birch family

est boy still alive devon 1990s.frank victor gladys and fred bunce .blonde joan husband lorrydriver norman brooks drove old black car with running board side..emma westwillans died age 89 windsor retired at bunce house 1975..fred willans born 1914 married my aunt sis of west ave thanks pam

with me xmas.harfield was conveles raw lemon eat every morning..corona lorry tony ice bike and coalman came down west ave 1950s..1953 fred dressed clowns kids tressels jellies coronation..northcote listed building but burnt twice 4 houses northcote ave listed....only little hamlet northcote exsisted 1800s.....only south green fields bricks and gas..have told ealing lib oates of this site precious local hist and society at dormers lane...hounslow and british library do written words of senior citizens memories and verbal tapes essential for future grandchildren....good people good way life front gardens emaculate proud worked all their lives and doubled at war and they probably in same queues at rations..husband and I ruislip 14 yrs before greenford before ealing broadway are you far away thanks love from yvonne tony

ble likely spent time their...not much school emma born 1890 ish..husband died as widow she wouldnt know willans hardly reading writing..also had many children..midwife at 114 put fred on the hot plate of stove when he was born scarred,,,emma had strong accent voice of country folk so wellums yes can hear it resounding now you say...thanks for all memories

s called Mrs Squires. She was always smartly dressed all in black with a black bonnet as well. You also mentioned a photo you have when you were five outside a yellow cellophane shop in the high street. I think this was the Wool shop on the corner of Hambrough road. They always had the window covered with yellow cellophane to prevent the sun from spoiling the wool.

..ag labs and brickmakers with kilns.my family west moved in 4 bed 114 nothcote ave 1920s 14 childrenv emma west george willans..angela joan norman there to 1980s..nan west ave 1927 me born 1949 left 1961 only across fields spikes to yeading.cousin charlie acres went tudor his sisters born 1935 1937 went there or north rd marg pam..all best thankyou

f formidable mother very loud strong emma willans so told len she had back st abortion alexand ave he knows was mrs pocock and she had geengrocers top rd..1960 diane squires at schhol me she lived with grandmother row just over by golflinks estate married to squires he could be relative..she said her uncle in navy was nich monsarret wrote cruel sea we did for o level..best wishes

how to iron hankie corners...pavement hop scotch and game of chalk pavement film stars.....jakes 5 stones////my cousin gun caps and matches cowboy outfit...pushed the twin pram 3 babies in it to park age 9 slide and swings.......school tennis spikes park rubber works smell

not found yet..wentw by heston airport dad worked 1950s we went kids big parties.catholic orpahage one of ours went there 1900 west......hugestone of boys names war but all know has gone missing featherston school our hahnenfeld on plaque entrance but school not reply when ask if still there this year..griggs yes 4 sue on dormers site have asked the others 1965 she was leaving I walked home with her to northcote ave...thanks

all her life died age 86.mrs short mrs fischel miss lewis miss little,miss morris and her secretary mrs grey retired to home land st davids wales.young music teacher who was local attended southall grammer was wonderful in hut good assemblies.mrs upton canada maths mrs low art.went austria train salzburg sound music being filmed in square.hockey team .relay at spikes park.milk room corridor.nurse checkups.dinner hut end field..have photos.infants yes prayer end day desk and shut eyes rest end day head on desk 1954 new school dormers babes

to know is where her mother might be buried so if you have any info on cemetaries and/or churches that would be helpful.
In any event, I have read loads of interesting things about Doodlebugs, plane crashes, sweetshops and grocers which I will be sure to pass on - I'm sure she will love it.

Again - many thanks.

off northhyde field local women forks ag lab mr forman in the middle elderly.so if his son and decendents moved west ave your mother born there.my acres from northhyde moved west ave 1927.many from old labourers dwellings moved into then new council houses from southern parts southall.rest of us were cranford lane fern lane just hop skip across field to rising sun pub dwellings heston from northhyde.those with forman were timberlake jane cotton wallbanks akers tylerlangley. lindsey little later .probably gazette photo but have not been able get hold of gazette yet.2 copies in my family

nds..northhyde of extremely old dwellings.people did move into new council houses.my nan west ave 1927.family always spoke of mr forman on photo floppy black hat.labourers hat shade the sun good luck y acres butler

r so much for the Percival House tip - I'm sure you've saved me lots of time. It's been a six year search to get to this point as all we had to start from was the West Ave address.

Re old Mr Forman - I don't think he can have been Leonard's father as he would only have been in his late fourties in 1918. It was a good thought though. I don't suppose you know his first name?

stay one day when came home yellow dust...1950s we used to go sundays stroll exquisite flower gardens and go in side gate in fence..flowers and tap there and cut the grass with scissors..3 of us have been in more recent years..west ave good street all privet hedges and flower beds out front....left to go over field to yeading 1961..now live ruislip all best to you love yvonne acres b

es called him.might be related to you...mr forman in great repect my aunts used mr..never knew christian name my aunt born 1914 passed away now to ask...st johns baptism marriage books may well have formans..cranford lane ag lab workers came under heston st leonards church..all at metropol london have used books and film often

get to colindale newspaper library photo probably taken for the local gazette.did write to them but not found article yet.compensation payed out by the tube factory may well have been in local paper also 1936 march.help dr oates.

get to colindale newspaper library photo probably taken for the local gazette.did write to them but not found article yet.compensation payed out by the tube factory may well have been in local paper also 1936 march.help dr oates.

toy shop Mr Williams was the owner I could go on forever about Southall.
Best wishes Len

er and the Blackshirts had their meeting in Greenford Ave.I am talking about the late thirties perhaps I am a little older than you as I have said in all my messages I went into the Navy in 1942.

the road and the boys used to creep along the brick wall to pinch an apple when they could, getting caught on several occasions. They are nice memories.

lsh couple who sold sweets and cigs. We got a lot for our farthings and halfpennies.

Miss Trent of the Juniors.I was at Southall Grammar after that.Mr Vernon was head.

hree hours the whole of South Rd was gridlocked.nice to hear from you Len

get a packet of 5 Woodbines from the pub for a neighbour.
Did you know the Hill family in Northcote Ave?
Ron

I believe he dropped at Arnhem during the war.

s. I also have a John Player's cigarette card album," The Coronation of H.M. King GeorgeVI and H.M.Queen Elizabeth. It contains 50 beautiful coloured cards, each carefully annotated. Both books are in pristine condition after nearly 72 years-more than can be said for their owner!
I cannot remember any street parties, but do rememember a few years before in 1935, we celebrated the Silver Jubilee of King George 5th in our classroom at North Road Infants School-in the huts.

know one lady was a dressmaker near us.

pulling their cargo in the daytime.

xpect lots of people remember the little bottles of milk we had which were often sour in the summer & ice coming out of the top in the winter

emember any names but remember getting my mother's meat at the butchers!I used to cut through to Dane Road to cross the Uxbridge road.

mhouse wall and the Germans shot some of his friends he gave evidence in Nureberg and the German officer was executed.
On a lighter note I remeber Louie Hill she chased me many a time.

mhouse wall and the Germans shot some of his friends he gave evidence in Nureberg and the German officer was executed.
On a lighter note I remember Louie Hill she chased me many a time.

now the problem my generation have passed on the indigenous population of Southall is 4% not many of us left I still have one friend I keep in touch with after seventy five years we went to Tudor infants he lived in West Ave.
Keep in touch Len

corner of Townsend and Job's on the corner of West End.
As a footnote in the Southall gazette this week crime is so rife in South Rd. and the Broadway the are going to deploy twenty PC's yes twenty as from next week in my day we had Spike Sullivan his nickname was six foot Sullivan.

ries when I worked on a farm in Heston on the bus route during my summer holidays.The landgirls were working there. I believe the manager's name was Mr Clayton.Stringing up the tomatoes and picking up the windfall apples. It was a lovely time!

.We weren't paid much and that was our 'perks'.When the Gaffer passed by us all on his small motorbike with our illgotten gains we all tried to stand in front of our bags. I'm sure he knew what we were all up to however and probably didn't mind as long as we were'nt too greedy.

sometimes had to change to yet another bus to the roundabout at Western Ave.It's a bit easier now I've got the Hayes Southall Street AZ Atlas.

turn on the piano!They were fantastic days, despite the war.

o mischief
Oh dear no!
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ns half way up the window can you remember the ABC restaurant next to Woolies?
Ps We should back Knowhere in the Grand National.
Len

ay morning
Knowing it's well worth while
Every Saturday morning
Where do we go?
Getting into mischief
Oh dear no!
We come along on Saturday morning
Greeting everybody with a smile smile smile
Greeting everybody with a smile

alked out. He was not very pleased! I've never forgotten it.

quite vividly I left Dormers in 1939 went in the Navy three years after sorry about the Grammer skool where do you live now Pauline?
Regards Len.

rapped up plus the sugar. It all took ages. What about dividend day then! There were huge queues in the alleyway at the back of the shop and you could earn quite a bit if you shopped there regularly. I don't remember the American link-up at the Odeon though.

poor old goat tethered up there. The things we gave that poor animal to eat! We also used to stand outside Brown's news agents laughing at all the humorous postcards in the window of huge ladies at the seaside! All innocent fun.

poor old goat tethered up there. The things we gave that poor animal to eat! We also used to stand outside Brown's news agents laughing at all the humorous postcards in the window of huge ladies at the seaside! All innocent fun.

ildren have come along all on their own to Sunday school" and everyone clapped. I felt like hiding under the floorboards! However,we all went to the party and I did join Sunday school for quite a while.

to the Navy do you remember the shop on the corner of Tudor the owner was a Mr Haines keep up the memories.
Len

at Kings Hall. I still have a Certificate of Merit presented at one of these.

in South Rd and Mr Blower the Dentist over the top of the Maypole.
Hope you enjoy the memories Len

s married at St Georges 1958 and still lives in Southall.
From memory lane Len

s.It was the fur coat that did it for me!I also remember a Miss Rumming and a Miss Kingsnorth.

n South Rd. and Herbert Rd.Hadrells the furniture shop was on the corner of Herbert Rd.
As Bob Hope said 'Thanks for the Memory'
Len

akery,chemist shop,Wheatley`s deli,Fabric shop and a Butcher.Can you remember the name of the shop on the corner of Tudor Rd? My mother sent me there to get Stork Margerine, it was packaged in a roll with six sides, I think it was made with Whale Oil?

territory! The white lines were patrolled by prefects from the junior school and you can imagine the goading that took place as we purposely placed our feet within a whisker of the white line, simply to antagonise the prefects. Then all hell would be let loose when some joker pushed you over the line !Those poor prefects."

r who came round at night to light the lamps. Also the old night watchman who had a little hut up the road from us to keep an eye on all the building materials in the road. He had a blazing fire in his brazier and used to tell us kids to keep away from it. He often toasted himself a piece of toast with a toasting fork! Happy memories.

my grandfather lived and called in there. He sent us on our way back home (dark by then)
Anyway mine and Patsy's parents were out looking for us and had informed the police that we were missing. Boy did I get into trouble when my dad got back. I expect I got the blame. I always did. lol!

egraph pole when Miss Trent appeared and shouted at us all to get down. We all scooted off but I was the only one to be sent to the Head the next morning as she remembered me! She asked for all the names of the others but I kept quiet. When I got back to Miss Jones in the classroom she said I was a disgrace to the top class. I bet there were a few of them quivering in their seats!

owner's daughter was an Ann Pollard. Does this ring any bells for anyone?

to call it the jam factory. This must have been during the war. Does anyone know if it had been a jam factory? We spent hours over there making camps etc.

l station.Don't ask me Len, as I don't remember any of it!

here there was always a spare dinner in oven and a tin full of cakes.My mum was reading the posts with me and remembered lots of things mentioned as she use to live in Cherry Ave, her maiden name was Thompson.

ith icing on (it was pretty old) and we would have a little piece of the icing. This happened several times, as my mother obviously visited there. Was this your mother?

ads wedding photos were also taken by Charles Glover and Joe Morgan his shop was in Western Rd, did their wedding flowers in 1958.My Grandad Thompson worked at the AEC and my uncle Fred worked at Wimpeys in Lancaster Rd.Kind regards Sarah

use to see Peter quite a bit when I was working in Ealing.
Kind regards Len

ards Len

those days. It was like gold dust! We often saw Cleo Laine and her brother in their school uniforms coming out of Beechcroft Avenue.They always looked very smart.

y dropped and what year it was? I do remember it was summer time.

nd a car was on the roof of the house.All the other bomb craters were smaller. We all thought they were after George Wimpy`s which I believe were making war equipment.
Ron

bably the Argyll Ave one that Michael mentioned. The blast seemed to come from straight across to where we were stsnding, because I immediately thought of my dad at the AEC. Although the dirt all rising up was a bit scary, I can't say we were all that frightened. I know the khaki campbell ducks in the garden were making one hell of a row!

nnis Upton.
Hope you find it interesting,
Kind regards Len

t doctor and when my brother David contracted pnuemonia not long after he was born in the winter of 1936, Dr Ginsberg provided the necessary oxygen to keep him alive. My parents couldn't afford it, but he told them to pay him when they could. Not long after, my grandmother died and with the money she left my mother, they were able to pay him. He evidently said that he hadn't expected to be
paid so quickly. My parents never forgot his kindness.

the Beehive Pub is now owned by an Asian I went out wih my sister for a carvery at a local pub coming home I went down Lady Margaret Rd the pub is now a Medical Centre hope I have'nt bored you all with my day out
Kind regards Len

Dormers Wells Lane very sad what has happened,as is all over,i also went to Dormers Wells School.

out to us all still fill me with dread. I wish I'd had the courage of one boy who regularly used to tip his in a large flower pot.

ly remember, which was the one will fell in Southall Park. It brought down all our ceilings and blew in the windows, but the thing was everyone just got on with it in those days - cleared up the mess, and got on with their lives. My husband, Brian, came from Allenby Road, and by chance we passed the old Beehive pub only today, which was a regular hang-out for him as a teenager, as they went there to play dominoes. Somebody had told us it had been pulled down, so we were quite pleased to see it still standing, although mightily changed no doubt! We remember old Dr Ginsberg, Dr Cline and Dr Freelig, and Dr Mikhail is still our GP. We still live in Southall but "over the other side" as we used to call it. We're luckily in a quiet little spot by the Grand Union Canal, right on the borders of Southall and Hayes. My brother, who is now 87 and lives in Sussex, went to Tudor Road School, and my husband went to Dormers Wells, although we were all pupils at North Road School moving moving up. Even my mother went to North Road and she was born in 1901. Keep all the memories coming, they make me very nostalgic!

n home as fast as we could.

ide of the Town Hall where there Fire Station is there was a Hardware store the owner was a Mr Jenkins his Son was the drummer for James Last I met him at the Albert Hall a few years ago as someone said it is nice to hear all the news about our Town Kind regards Len

the Isolation hospital, and didn't your clothes have to be fumigated?

id back there was also another shop next door to the butcher which in the 1950`s sold Danish furniture.

hose days. Regards to you both,
Len

rs. Hope this is of interest to you.

uashed her finger in a small fold-up wooden slatted seat. My mum was ill quite a lot in those days so I got the job. There was also an Almoner who, I believe, took details when an anaesthetic had to be delivered.

till obtain it on Amazon quite reasonable price and another book by Dennis Upton called Ealing ,Acton,southall the war years.Thats all fo now.
Regards Len

em Branden, who was Belgian Liason officer, and had an office in Osterley Park Road.

fore the war, but during the war he worked on airplane engines so he got a job at the AEC when he came out of the RAF.
When I left school I worked at the AEC also and was an apprentice in the toolroom.
Harking back to previous posts, Arthur Sullivan worked with me, his father was the Southall policeman. There was a bloke worked there who was a communist who they nickmaned Funff.
Snooker at the bottom of Station Bridge and above Burtons. Dancing and fights at the Dominion, Saturday morning pictures at the Palace, booing the bad guys.

said that Spike was waiting for anybody with apples at the other end of the tunnel. We couldn't see as we were too far away from it, but we all dropped our precious apples on the floor. As we went through the tunnel, all a bit nervous, Spike wasn't there, and we went back a bit to look for the boys but they were long gone and so were our apples!

skidding down the earthy slopes there.

he 83.
Thats all for now Len

s was 1937 onwards
Kind regards
Marjorie.

Rd again in the '30s Dr.Nussbaum had the first surgery my wife and I have been at the same surgery for 45 years we now live in Hayes.
Regards Len

r hat - Leave your worries on the doorstep. Just direct your feet to the sunny side of the street! I can't think for the life of me whereabouts it was. Does it ring any bells for anyone?

a hostel at the foot of railway bridge I think it was called Martin House.
Nice to see you back on radar.
Len

t to work at Poulton and Noel

e.
Great to have you back Len

when the boys suddenly disappeared. To my horror, they started playing a game they called *chicken' which involved running across the lines, which were many, before a train came. They did this several times, with me shouting and screaming at them from the bridge, when an express whizzed through, and my god was it fast! They had only just reached the other side. Then, and only then, they must have realised that they could have been under that train. The game stopped and they all came back, and I swear someone must have been watching over them that evening!

t new Raleigh bike on the HP. Every week I would take my money to the shop and it was recorded in a little book.
I can always remember how proud I was when I made that final payment. Does that ring any bells for anyone?

shed buying, he wrapped it all up in a very large brown paper package and tied it up with string. My dad gave him the provident cheques, and his face fell. He said "Im sorry sir, but we don't take these in here, you need next door". My poor dad's face went crimson, and we all slunk out of that shop like criminals. We've all laughed about it over the years, but sadly they have all gone now.

hey were hard times but we survived.
Regards Len

d Snooker.
What was the name of the place on the corner across from the Town Hall. There was a basement Barber shop there. I would get my hair cut on my lunch hour.
Anyone remember the Jazz club at the White Hart, every Wednesday Night. Chris Barber and Kenny Ball Jazz Bands.

ong there off the common..and old oak pub 100s yrs..1926 photo of all the old men at charabang trip outside the pub with landlord..my grandad on it and several grandfathers.hung by bar was there even in 1976

finally got to Butlers and made the necessary purchases, and off again I trudged back to the surgery. Lady Margaret was a very long road. However, something was not quite right with the detachable collars! Off to Butlers once again, and by this time the light was fading. The snow seemed even worse the second time plus my feet were wet. They changed the collars and once more that dreaded walk back to the surgery. So yes, I do remember detachable separate collars, but never found out whether they were for her husband or Dr Ginsberg. Didn't do any more errands though! Memories.

36 16 west ave severely difficult birth she made sure she never had any more. I used to go cheap chemist store on the corner for vosene and colgate.only just found vosene in tesco but completly different plastic not clear glass as it always was...think beechams made it.worked beecham 5ys.snow we never saw regular snow.. lots thickfog until all told to buy coke..1947 was the bad winter....the willans 114 joan had her last baby angela because angel that she ever survived rhesus factor all blood had to be drained and new blood put into baby front room 114 .my aunt flew down from west ave to help as sister in law 1959 best wishes

g hand wash bath to mangle sheets flanelette.cousins sold creamgrey heavy duty sheets lasted years but had to wash them in ....bolsters..could top tail sheets to repair and shirts turn or do the collars for manual workers

se it several times, usually in cold water, in the sink. Then came the mangle! Ours stood in the hall. If you were lucky you caught most of the water, but missed quite a lot on the lino! If it was winter it had to be dried on a wooden horse around the fire, or on good days on the line. I still remember the day I put my dad's long johns in just for a while but forgot them. They came out like jelly. He didn't grumble though as he knew I was doing my best! It was hard work in those days.

few photos and air raid shelter brought up for shed even had shoe horn metal thing he cobbled..put metal bits on soles and rubber shaped soles to make shoes last longer

d buntings, and every single garden had a different theme. There were photos of the Queen, murals, floral pictures, lights all ready to switch on, etc. etc. I used to look forward to seeing it all every night. I lived in a litttle square in North Hyde Lane, got married at Heston church, with the lovely lychgate, and then moved to Hayes for a couple of years. Hope it brings back some memories for you.

and 1906one of our says 19s 6ppaid loose receipts are stored in heston burial books.huge sheets of baptisms.we went carol concert there 1969 .banks botanist of cap cook and blyth bounty buried there.lived isleworth and last man to be flogged barracks buried there

some info must find it.akers hackers they are spelt diff ways

lled her "Mary". When she finally died, I went across the road to tell my friend, very upset, and when her mother opened the door she asked me what was the matter. I said "Mary's dead" and she said "Is it your aunt?" I said "No, it's our chicken." We also had two Khaki Campbell ducks who hadn't laid any eggs at all, and had to be put down, but when they were opened up, there were eggs inside them and would have laid within a week or so. Can anyone else relate to this?

ning mum went out to feed them, but was horrified to see that they had all flown out, and were happily eating some of our next door neighbour's(Mr Fuller) carefully nurtured vegetable garden. He lived on his own, and luckily was at work, but it took us a fair time to get the chickens back! Over the following months, the eggs were very welcome indeed.

part swirl writing says one of the best.and one outside must be bakers empty front window 2 slates shelves across suspended and bottom shelf..loved looking window fancy cakes.expensive but friday perhaps we got plain cake was nice...1952 bunny park photos st mary steeple behind..outside 16 west ave baby me one month old.chicken wire fence seperates two front doors 1949.dormers 1966 farewell groups photos..girls climb top coal heap at field,,,,and outside school hall door.group at salzburg when sound music being filmed .group coventry cathed visit

White Heart, when I tell family we saw Lonnie Donigan, and all the now famour players, they seem to think it is all in my mind. Regards to everyone and thank you all for bringing back so many memories.

member going to the Scout Jumble sales, got relly good items for 1d or 2.

Hope someone out there can remember these events.

med a short space of time, there was a huge fire started right in the middle of the road going from our road into Norman Avenue. Everything was being piled onto that fire - anything wooden. The air-raid shelter in Norman Avenue had bunks in there. They soon disappeared on the fire and it was really hot! It seemed that everyone was letting out all the pent up feelings of the past five years. It burned all through the night and there was a huge hole in the road when it finally burnt out. Does any one else have any memories of this day?

and think why did we go to war I feel very sad when I see those coffins coming home Having lost a son through the Falklands conflict
he became mentally disturbed after seeing 22 of his shipmates killed he turned to alcohol and that was the cause of hi death very sad. Len

as we remembered it in some of the photos.

t was but Ester Frazier and Eileen Macnab were i believe her best friends. If you need to know more i will ask my mum as she only lives about fives away as the crow flies.

Regards Steve Hill

the house.
Regards Steve

tanding at the bus stop outside Pritchards when a lady I knew told me I had a great big lump of hair missing at the back, and it was all burnt! She told me to go back to the shop and complain. I did and they said the manager wasn't there, but they would tell him! Needless to add, no-one ever came to collect any money, but my hair took a long time to grow back. I think my mum was away at that time. Memories!

th husbands.little sparkle necklaces etc.played womens darts team....and perms they did at home at regular intervals...colour they did later on.but me no.only earpiercing we all had.done at home

you the perms in the early 40's were barbaric! Anybody else have any experiences?

m with gold flowers all over it, made in a classic style, pleated from the waist, with long sleeves pointed at the wrist. It's hardly discoloured at all, and for 55 years thats not bad! Has anyone else kept theirs?

ollege library acton high st.lunch went market there bought pound roll of loads strip lace..trimmed everywhere with it Ha.

t ( 2007 )
I am still in contact with a few people from
School and co-incidentally I am having a beer with Philip ( Pip ) Heath this evening as
we live pretty close . I played football for
the Old Boys ( Old Southallians ) for a number
of years so kept in contact via that network
as well . The other names you mention I have
not heard from since school but as well as Pip
I have seen other guys from school over the years

Anyway hope you are enjoying life in OZ . My wife
has a lot of family in Melbourne and Sydney
so we have visited in the past

Cheers Keith ( Lake )

ontact me direct on ankles49@hotmail.com
I`d certainly like to know if there are any more of our class around. Maybe they`ll see this and reply.
All the best,
Rick.

ast day war arras.the france and maidenhead offices sent extrememly good free details photos of cemetery etc.names dates rank .he joined 1914 was wounded but went back to his death. young wife never remarried brought up 2 small children on her job all her life.my other one was 33 yr old bachelor call up 1917 as natural heard of suicide to go they went off to pub away from MPs coming round the cottages but they got him at pub waggon horses elm tree heston.and he killed action april 1917 battle arras no body found

atherstone road near the Odeon .Also some footage of King street and of the kids in there marching bands all which have long gone . Have looked at Southall on the web and it has changed so much for the worse i might add

family tree 1790 onwards to our grandmother..but could be another timb all these recent ones.our timberlake 1914 is on war memorial

935 5 children she had died 1980s..rest of family were to 1920s and more northhyde rd by old north star pub..they always new all the people.best wishes

mrs sparks.halfway house rebuilt 1931

arren,and his group bullt up long lane ickenham hayes ruislip gardens..warren thought lot of gdad gave him his suits..that was ok the blokes wore jacket flat cap sometimes even cravat labourers fashion always waistcoat...my uncle was the eldest son born 1912..so age 14 he helped his father so georgenobby acres worked warrens 1927 onwards best quality bricklayers in those days..uncle nob said workers 1960s were nowhere near as strict thorough perfect work as they apprentice was for the great builds of 1930s..great to know you josie...dots laughs she was a terror at school got up to all sorts..never missed a cinema film watched them all several times

ial...they said plaque still there but recently probably not ...will write again and find out what they have done with it...neal has wonderful family tree on google includes your tilly

re condemned pulled down..on the kelly post office directory 1914 on google.was pond in the green horses trough and brick works back to canal old navvies dwellings cutlabourers 1700s 1800s.rumour goes old plague graveyard in the green.gdad liked many smoked woodbines.died lung cancer age 58 son was ok only few fags lived to87.gdad built shelter would never go in it .victorian gruff strict severe man said little moustache man would not force him out of his bed,no room anyway 6 probably down there and spiders

school teacher. Both he and my grandmother Jane originally came from Somerset. I still have a lot to do with N/Green as I'm a churchwarden at St Mary's. There is a thriving Residents' Association and last weekend we had Village Day on the green, which is always well attended by all the local community. There is still a collection of old photos of N/G still available -the church, the Plough, Three Bridges, Tentelow Lane and the Green itself.

they were sqashed there seems three old bricked up doors sections of roofs so the 2 there have extended spread back..my wingroves on your school bap marr burials and almshouse there wingoves as all labourers long lists children on each generation have norwood green f tree going back 1700s....lovely to know you phyls

ghbour helped and they all lived to 87 and bit less..no cholesterol fresh veg stews...midwife nurse rolphe of clarence st helped with some of the later family babies 1930 onwards..best wish phylis

ian career 40yrs so mad keen social history

chool makes sense..will go and see it sometime..go around back from hayes by pass..left southall 1961.cannot get through all that since so go around back to norwood green or just gone up once to havelock nans nice grave there....we used to go regular sundays grave in the 50s.yes chat to uncle you are lucky great to have a family of memories.my older ones have all passed away now.old oak pub took my aunts uncles and they saw their fathers photo side of bar 1926 charabang trip easter lanlord said all grandfathers on photo perhaps neal too.dot always a laugh same today two blonde ones in family dot and diane we all said were acress bubbly strong characters

h has also been demolished.
Norwood Green Village Day is always the second Saturday in July, so perhaps might see you there next year?
Haven't checked back to see which schools you went to, but I went to North Rd from 1944 until 1950. I'm now 70, so don't know if we are of the same generation or not.

Brentford goalkeeper also the Headmaster of Dormers wells a Mr.Ebbutt he was Chairman of the Hoticulture Society,next to the Police station was a Nursing Home called Frogmore.
Last but not least there is a film called 'The Bargee'showing the Top Locks and Three Bridges I forgot there was a factory there called C.F. Freeman they made sausages and finally Mo Mowlam MP resided there.

every year. But when the Sultan or his wives are in London they are on call 24/7. Frogmore house is still there, but of course no longer a nusring home. I have heard that many years ago there was a laundry there, where they used to do Queen Victoria's laundry when she was at Windsor. Don't know about Mo Mowlem, but you are obviously much more up with local history than I am.The old police station until recently was used by the Southall Neighbourhood Police, but I think they also have now moved out. The almshouses are still opposite the police station, and my husband is on the Board of Trustees, along with some other local people, and the residents are very well looked after. Nice to keep bringing back old memories - keep up the good work.

om(Dads Army) an of course Hayley Mills Mo Mowlam lived there for some time I went to the Barn Mission in Norwood Rd most of the people on the Knowhere site lived over the Broadway side of town.
I have read in the local paper they are building a school and the residents are not very pleased.
Len

and it was like being back in the past. The only difference was that the wooden benches and the shelter overhead had gone. Even the windows hadn't changed. In the girls' junior playground Miss Trent's sacred 'fig tree' was still there. On to the Municipal Sports Ground. The Park keeper's lodge was now an ordinary house. The running track was still there, good as ever (what lovely sports days we had there) and the Pavilion looked even better as it had been coated with anti-graffiti paint. The bowling green had gone (which used to be raised higher) but the roses where we used the petals for our scent were still there! The tennis courts (where we climbed looking for shrapnel during the war) and the playground were still there. We were surprised how little it had all changed. Spikes Bridge had been renovated - (the wooden planks across the bridge used to move as you walked), but the canal had lost all its reeds and bullrushes. In Northcote Ave Grubham's shop was still there - ownership changed - but the Northcote Alms looked very dilapidated. I was so pleased to see that all the trees that were along the top half of the road, planted on the pavements, were still there. I thought they would have gone. Went to Southall Grammar school (Now Villiers road school. The amount of cars parked was noticeable. Saw Southall park - that had definitely changed, and we had to have a look at where Dr Ginsberg's surgery was in Lady Margaret road. Sorry to see that the Odeon had gone - had lots of memories of Saturday morning pictures, etc. Obviously the town has changed, but I was so pleased we went back and saw many of the places we remembered in our childhood. Even popped to Heston to see the church where I was married, but the lovely lychgate had gone. My brother died last year, so it is a day I will always remember.

ny manor grounds.go heston often war mem opposite has nan brother on.did not notice lynch gone they may be repairing it.it was there a while ago.saw sikh school green huge on corner by church.on the grounds of the ancient biscoe school.

ch in all my family 1950s wed photos.full white skirt dresses veil.cousins boast of their 18inch waist.heston hall and swim pool opposite .. now the library.heston fair years used to be in park.queen head pub along got pulled down but elm tree still there.best wishes

4 northcote ave 1914.he knew of mushrooms fields as child.so he went one morning and came back to have with bacon.6yrs we were there but he passed away age 52 so son bought us house wheatlands heston.google maps street views still good close ups photos of up to date now the houses shops pubs etc

ly to rest coffin inclement weather the mourners.peppard has large brass plaque on lynch says richardson.. prominant in village.my gt gt grandfather akers married dinah richardson in peppard church.gets around 1800 harder to research more yet

ted buildings of our heritage

f Burtons and was a conductor on the buses for over 40 years,and Jim who lived at Dormers Wells. He also had two sisters Peggy (Mary) who was manageress of Elands ? Ladies Wear on the Broadway married to Frank Higgins DFM and Ruth who was married to Jim Hole who owned the film prop works in Witley Gdns. They lived opposite Norwood Green. Re:the new 'School' on the green,when I started work in the early 60's I used to cycle there from Hayes every Monday to do my City & Guilds, it was then Norwood Hall Horticultural College, most of the local Parks Depts sent their people there to study.
Regards Barry

e still lives in the Southall area, saw him two or three years ago, he and his son were running the local heritage study centre at Ravenor Park. regards Barry

gh st church.she worked with me at bbc tv reference library

am eventually.I worked beech brentford.

onwealth day celebrated and nativity.silent kid black hair round face got to be mary

history photos etc.the historic house of this sikh school have promised to repair and preserve.condition of them being allowed

es/Harlington(Sipson) and Uxbridge Cottage Hospitals, all the cottage hospitals now gone.Like your mention of the brickfields, I was actually adopted within the family in the early 50's, my original family name was Sceeny. Have been doing my family history for years, my grandfather and his father worked in Dawley brickfields, while another branch came from Yeading. Also related were the Birch & Mead families all from Heston/North Hyde. Have a look at my album on hayesmiddlesex.com under The Sceenyclan.
Regards Barry

ended up cranford lane by rising sun pub marriage relatives langley tyler managed the pb..many crowded cottages along there vicars books saw in london felt sorry for the poor down there.old boile we have 1867 perhaps sold peddled to her at the door 1s 6d could ill aford.all 1st war telegrame entered in it and births and babies deaths.24 springwell they lived 1881 married wallbanks... to 1970s and big fishers house next door sold to council on death now old peoples home

ton house .tom doris fred alf.mary meads .little. wallbanks my gt aunt died age 95.took snuff.first husband tom little hung himself poverty 1909 springewell lane back garden privy.4 little babies were francis. familylives gordon rd southall.minnie tom john

the 1920s 7 kids eldest looked after them .mum cooked dinner when all home 6pm.have been in evelyns on visit.husb and me born in hill hosp.heathrow tonys family dad 1920s worked there 6am to dark on quarries that were there.my gdad b 1890 and his father married from northhyde 1873 worked piecework bricks northhyde.n green bricks built buck palace canal used.and bricks all west london.southall brick company works southall green

l books on hayes and all.russel grant and his mum uxbridge done middx years and borough crests and books on tv often

at North Hyde. I could also send you a basic breakdown of how I relate to the Meads including Richard Meads (who wrote the Southall books), I visited his son Arthur a couple of years ago he still lives in Southall.
My e.mail address is barry.raymond@blueyonder.co.uk.
Regards Barry

there his father on cert and if a brother a witness.it is far extended family of mine one bit have not had time to do.1920 her 4 meads babies born.burial ground is local nearby council cemetery there.going abroad holiday get tree with you and email.find all my buried stuff.winter job plenty time but is soloman on your tree.emi my family worked munitions war

ch books certs etc 40 northhampton row

hem kept in touch with our side her sisters and cousins local.so no knowledge of meads.said he was good quiet man.married her with 4 orphaned young children.have definately seen meads 1900s all in heston northhyde areas but too much work could not do them as well.took 30 yrs to do all my close branches records.not much help from family people too old or not chatty or I was too young and missed out on getting to some of them before it was too late...golden mile gt west rd my aunts cousins worked factories.me beechams libraries.photo of when rd first opened.relative going vicarage farm rd to sutton to visit mary was first rd accident there.mg sports car killed her

bit my aunt always spoke of the splash they played.watercress grown there.pity your newspapercuttings no date says seagull pub with bingo

relatives as witnesses.let me know if your tree.thanks

pation then is shown as Gardener. My great great gran Sarah Emily Meads was born Feb. 4th 1859
Regards Barry

o your mead...was always spelt all ways many families names..the vicar the census man the registra brentford.not read write much so their accent of country folk speaking .so censuses how does your sarah emily go along via her brothers meades..and your writer meads his tree.mine definately finches and queen head pub cottages.thanks

died.or doris called herself doris instead of dais

en that is my work showing meads wallbanks timberlake and little..marys family names.phil is my cousin..

se sun cottages cranford lane. and wellington pub cottages sutton a relative 1800s 1900s labourers managed to get a dwelling..other tythe owned by the land owner .finches.trimmer in southall etc and lord jersey owned most of the farm land and its workers.we always knew mary lived down there.may have been solas mothers origin..tom meads b1877 and rose may have been yard.need to pay credits for census.so yard extra bit of land of pub early 1800s labourers much needed dwellings knocked up.often cockroaches soildirt rough floors..hounslow library prob has yard etc details.mary had eye taken out by pony trap horse whip accident going along new heston rd age 18.at95 used to watch coron street sitting on top of screen.took snuff through life if kids bought it for her.prob copied the men perhaps sola, my friennd viv moved in new flats along there when first married.new rd all around back built.but yard was tiny place just along side along from pub.pulled down when sutton council estates built about end 1920s

ient heston park.was famous fairs may day etc going back years

on photos, click on Features, you will see the first half of my childhood memories, the webmaster has yet to put the second part on. I am also the archivist/historian for Hounslow Cavalry Barracks (I live opposite), and lead the guided tours of the Barracks during London Open House every Sept. as I have done for about the past six years.

l library would like a disc copy of all

walt always life called knocker boy knocker outer at kilns.nans family.tony and I visited burlem and kilns etc great.done some tree on him

in those days, a big old house, must be some history there.
I went to Norwood Green Junior school and Heston Seniors as it was then,and cutting through St Leonard's church yard through the Lynch Gate to get to school each morning.

her of Jonathan (Josh) Hayles who is the Webmaster for the hayesmiddlesex.com site.
With regards to the big old house at Norwood Green, to give it it's proper name Norwood Hall, don't know when it started as a Horticultural College, but thats what it was when I did my City & Guilds Horticulture from 1964-66

ne outside the Town hall.

te shallow, abounding with reeds, and naturally alive with newts, minnows and sticklebacks. I made myself a net from one of Mum's old stockings, a loop of stiff wire and a bamboo cane, and became very skilful. It became too easy, however, catching newts etc. in this way, and as everyone knows that these creatures eat worms, the rudiments of real fishing began. The easy way was to actually see a newt, minnow or stickleback in the shallow water and quickly drop a worm tied to a piece of cotton in front of it. Hey presto, it never failed. They were so voracious they never let go, no hooks were necessary. This, too, became too easy, that it wasn't fun anymore, so the introduction of a float (a cork & matchstick) that could be moved up and down to control the depth, soon made things much more exciting, as you couldn't see the prey. It also enabled you to cast out into deeper water, making a catch far more exciting. By fishing with a float and casting out much longer distances, even with cotton and no hook, eventually a 'real' fish was caught, a gudgeon, a species that abounded in the canal. Although they only ranged from about two to six or seven inches in length, to catch my first real fish in this manner was, at seven or eight years old, rather more than exciting. The obvious temptation became too great, and I eventually began to fish 'illicitly' in the proper canal. Without a hook, the fish I should have caught dropped off more often than not, but the addition of a carefully bent pin worked miracles, and I really began to catch fish in numbers, including roach and perch, much larger fish than gudgeon."

ng my dad. They were always in jocular mood, but I recall in particular, old Mrs Wellums, a very stout lady and mother of grown up children. If she was very merry, she'd do a little jig along the pavement, raising her long dress to her waist, showing her knee length bloomers, whilst others all danced around her. It was great fun. Another stalwart drinker never came home with the main party however, but some time later, always on his own, looking very serious. Even if you didn't know he had been to the pub, it soon became evident as he veered from the centre of the pavement to the kerb, and then slowly but surely across to the fence, repeating this erratic course all the way home. I never remember him falling over, but he trod that well worn route on many Sunday afternoons. When we had a Sunday joint, and were together as a family, dinner would be properly organised in the back room. This would take place after dad had come back from the pub, and he would carve the joint, as seems to have been the tradition in those days."

ctorian times.I have their family bible which started me on family tree..so emma was wayward to us..but my aunt married the good son fred..he was good man.they just had to put up with emma..gladys married into money fred bunce of the dairy.bought house windsor retired and took emma with them the last 10yrs her life.. I went once to see them once....sunday lunch was the favourite time of the workers norhcote.they deserved it 6 day week often..sunday lunch family favourites on radio..the blokes sometimes had lay down afternoon and winkles they brought home sunday tea.needle to get black tops off

windsor we went see swans as well and castle.last weekend went to laleham and penton lock was gorgeous weir and expensive boats going through largest lock with press button and metal lock gates work

he cane in front of the whole school. But, by the same token, the following is an example of his understanding of his role as headmaster. We had made quite a nice slide in the snow covered playground, and were thoroughly enjoying ourselves. Mr Whale had been watching us for quite some time, and I wondered what was going to happen when he suddenly said to a selected few of us "Follow me", and led us down the cellar, where the big boilers were. He handed each of us a bucket, and after putting sufficient water in each, he directed us back to the playground, where he proceeded to extend the slide quite considerably by pouring the water at appropriate places. It froze within minutes, and we began to use it. It was ten times better than the shorter one. Unfortunately, the whistle went, just as the slide had reached peak condition, but we were in for another surprise, because Mr Whale delayed registration to allow everyone a few more minutes of enjoyment. It was heaven, and there was more to come! As the school began to troop back into the classroom, Mr Whale again selected several of us to stay behind, and I noticed it was the one's who were best at sliding. He let us carry on sliding for a while, and then, miracle of miracles, he began to have a go himself, and he was very good. I don't know of anyone else who can boast a headmaster who not only made them a decent slide, but then joined in too! Such waa the man."

illa black on stage blind date and the 12 yr old put on liverpool accent...etc etc .best gcse results today.and many of our schools top of ofsted as well ...so good on them !