Railway Hotel, Southall, 1926
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by Roy Couch (Member 10138558) on 25-Nov-2004
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I have a photograph of my father standing outside the pub. He is part
of a photo of 23 people being in the winning team of the Southall Darts
League. If anyone thinks they may recognise anyone else in the photo
please let me know, and I will forward the photo to them.
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A Grandfather's Plea From the Past
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by Brenda MacCulloch (Member 10035523) on 24-Nov-2004
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A Grandfather's Plea From the Past
I am not sure who you may be or where you might be living, I can only
assume that if you are reading this you have some interest in family
history and that�s good because of the pickle that my ggggrandaughters
Pam and Brenda, have found themselves in when trying to find out where I
came from, who my parents were and if I had any brothers and sisters.
The same for my darling
wife, Margaret FISHER and her family, in fact I keep hearing them mutter
about �brick walls�� and it's giving me a headache. So I thought it was
about time to ask for help and if reading this letter triggers
connections with your own research, that would be great. This letter
contains most of the information that my descendents have been able to
unearth about my family and they would really appreciate any additional
information that you may have, their contact details are below.
Let me introduce myself, my name is Robert STRONG as have mentioned
above, I have come back to help two of my many, many ggggranddaughters
in New Zealand. I myself was born about 1792 maybe in Middlesex London,
England. But �London or Timbuktu� - its so long ago I can't really
remember. We were a hardworking family, not much money, couldn't read or
write so we all worked with our hands in jobs that were mostly
connected to the waterways of London. Its not like today, those days we
had no education and so whatever was recorded was done by hearsay and
taking into consideration all the different accents in this part of the
world, there is every possibility that items got recorded wrong, with
names not quite right.
That�s me, let me now introduce to you the �love of my life� ! While I
was in Hornsey Middlesex I married my beautiful Margaret FISHER, she was
born about 1793 in Norwich, Norfolk, England, �though I can't remember
how she got to Middlesex from Norwich - but am pleased she did or I
might not have never met her! We were married on 1st August 1813 in The
Parish of Hornsey, North London and afterwards we headed south to the
Thames River looking for work.
After duly arriving at the London docks we took up residence at Silver Street Rotherhithe.
I worked as a Sawyer, in the docks, it wasn't a very pleasant area to
work in, with the Thames River at your door and surrounded by many old
rat infested warehouses, but we were happy and blessed with seven
children, John William, Robert, Rosina (Roseanna), Charles George, Sarah
and Susannah. Can't remember if we named them after our respective
parents, brothers and sisters we might have but those clues to our
family origins haven't helped my girls find our families.
Our first born, John William appeared in 1816 and brought us much joy,
but we lost him on the 1st Feb 1824, can't remember how he died. Robert
was born 9th May 1817, later in 1856, Robert & his wife Sarah Anne
Charlotte SELF and grandchildren Mary Ann Susan, Robert Charles, Rosina
Elizabeth, Margaret Jane, Susannah Emily went to live in New Zealand,
then in 1819 came my beautiful Rosina she is one of the lost souls the
girls haven't found yet.
Our unpredictable Charles was born in 1823, I loved him like the others
but have to say that he was the black sheep of the family, so Charles
and his wife Mary Ann ROSS and grand-daughter Mary Ann were sent out
with Robert in 1856 with the hope that things would improve, but with
too much liquor and not a happy life the silly fool managed to drown
himself in the Auckland Harbour in 1896.
George, my last son was born in 1826 and became a sailor with a thirst
for adventure, being the first to set sail from home. In Oct 1847, he
signed up to sail to New Zealand via Ireland on the Barque called �ANN�
that the English Government had hired to transport Fencible Soldiers who
were to protect the early settlers during the Maori uprisings. On board
he met his fiery Irish lass Margaret MCMULLEN, daughter of an Irish
Fencible who was traveling with his wife and four daughters. The �ANN�
arrived in Auckland during May 1848 and George & Margaret were the
first couple to be married in the new St Paul�s Church in Onehunga
Auckland on 9th July 1848.
Then came my lovely daughters; Sarah and Susannah. Sarah was born in
1830, and in 1865 she left with her husband George LEWIS and
grandchildren Sarah Ann, Susannah Martha, Eleanor Margaret, Rosina Emma,
Eliza Louisa to live in New Zealand. Those great boys of mine, Robert
and Charles paid for her to join them, so that she wasn't left here in
England on her own.
Susannah is the baby of the family and was born in 1833. She was growing
into such a lovely young lady when both of us caught that dreadful
illness, Cholera. As a result I passed over on 10th July 1849 and my
lovely Susannah followed not long after, we are buried in St Mary's
Church cemetery Rotherhithe, but don't go looking for our names because
the head stones have deteriorated over time and what is left of them is
leaning along a side fence in the Churchyard. Now at the time, everybody
thought cholera came from the local water supply but it was actually
the sailors off the foreign ships that brought it to the Thames area and
that�s how us local folk got sick.
What my girls do know is that my dear wife Margaret and precious
daughter Rosina were still living in Silver Street, Rotherhithe, in 1851
- working as laundresses to support themselves, but after that the
records seem to have vanished and my girls are having trouble finding
out what happened to them, where did they go, what happened to Margaret?
Did Rosina marry? Why didn�t they come to New Zealand with the rest of
the family?
As the years have rolled by I have sat up here watching all my
descendents being born and thought I would never have kept up with them
or remembered all their names, thank goodness my girls have written all
the family names down. Robert and Sarah had 9, Charles and Mary Ann only
had 1, George and Margaret had 8 and little Sarah with her husband
George LEWIS had 8, that�s a total of 26 grandchildren!
From there my family has grown and spread throughout New Zealand, not
too bad for silly old man who can't remember where he was born.
Grateful to any help you can give my girls.
Your faithfully mystical servant.
Robert STRONG (Snr.)
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by christopher (Member 10135761) on 16-Nov-2004
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Do you know Bernard Lopez???
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by Sandie (Member 10135805) on 15-Nov-2004
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Does anyone remember my brother Bernie. He attended Western Road & Featherstone Road Schools.
It will be his 60th birthday in Jan 2005 and we are trying to locate
some of his old pals. So Phil, Mickey, Dez and any one else who used to
hang around please contact me
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Do you know Bernard Lopez???
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by Sandie (Member 10135805) on 15-Nov-2004
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Does anyone remember my brother Bernie. He attended Western Road & Featherstone Road Schools.
I will be his 60th birthday in Jan 2005 and we are trying to locate some
of his old pals. So Phil, Mickey, Dez and any one else who used to hang
around please contact me
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Indian Girls and Indian Boys
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by Sapan Ganguly (Member 10037562) on 4-Oct-2004
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I've been finding it hard to meet people so I created this site. Its free and always will be.
It runs from my living room so support is limited but you can alway email me if you need help (address on the site).
http://www.meetahunk.co.uk
Thanks,
Sapan
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Cricket
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by ROD (Member 10131934) on 11-Sep-2004
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Hi,
I work for a cricket magazine and want to know any good atmospheric
places to watch the upcoming India/Pakistan match in Southall,
restautants etc.
Cheers
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PICS
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by davo (Member 10030212) on 10-Sep-2004
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Does anyone have any pics of Southall from the 60,s
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Will go soon...so hurry and contact me Zee on 07904979580
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Battle Of The Bands
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by evilbungle (Member 10131081) on 27-Aug-2004
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Uwist psychology reunion
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by brian (Member 10125747) on 13-Aug-2004
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Private Schools in Southall
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Jul-2004
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Looking through the pages of the Knowhere Southall site, there is much
of interest about all the schools in Southall, from various
generations, but nothing from any of the private schools.( No, I did not
go to one myself!). The boy next door to us in North Road, went to the
PNEU school in rhe road off the Uxbridge Road by Holy Trinity Church.
There was Southall Preparatory School in Avenue Road r un
by a Mrs Peachey, and another school near the Artesian Well Company on
the other side of the railway-can't remember its name. Is there anyone
out there? ... more >>
- Re: Private Schools in Southall
by Gerald Simpson (Member 10129342) on 31-Jul-2004
Hello Michael
I read most of your postings as they all seem to bring back the old
times for me. I do not know much about the subject but remember the
Artesian Well Company at the bottom of the Railway Bridge.
My brother in Law - Ray Randall worked there for many years prior to joining the Royal Marines.
I also remember very well the All-Night cafe, just off the High Street.
My girl friend lived in Townsend Road and I lived in Ascot Gardens. So
after I had taken her home it was back to the cafe on the way home for a
nice hot cup of tea
and a hot dog.
Thanks for the memories
Good Luck ... more >>
- Re: Private Schools in Southall
by barbara & alan peachey (Member 10093440) on 19-Apr-2008
I was educated at Churston College, Norwood Green which was also a private school (for young ladies).
regards
arbara Peachey (nee Tope)
- Re: Private Schools in Southall
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 24-Apr-2008
Any relation to the Mrs Peachey of Southall Prep School perchance ?
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looking for Jacquline
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by Neena Ayres (Member 10127893) on 7-Jul-2004
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Does any one know/remember Jacquline who lived at 6 milford road late
60's/ early 70's. I used to live next door in number 4. We were only
young at the tme but good friends. I went to India for about a year
& lost touch as she & her family had moved by the tme I
returned. Would be nice to know how she is.
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Barber shop
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by davo (Member 10030212) on 29-Jun-2004
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Does anyone remember the barber shop on the corner of Featherstone rd and Elmfield Rd.
It was owned by a Mr Clifford in the late 60's
Does anyone know where they can be contacted
- Re: Barber shop
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 9-Mar-2005
I don't remember Davo's barber
shop, but he has reminded me of the one in North Road, near where I used
to live intil 1954. This was run by Mr"Mac" Smart.Half his shop was a
barbers, he other half a second hand shop, If a customer came into the
latter, Mac would leave one half shorn, while he served the customer.
There was also a barbers in the basement of Butler's, the Gent's outfitters.
Michael Braden ... more >>
- Re: Barber shop
by pauline hobson (Member 10159275) on 21-Jul-2005
I remeber the barbers shop. I
lived opposite at 16 featherstone road, and Several Aunties lived at the
bottom of elmfield road, at number 20. It is now an asian fabric shop.
Im sure there was a florists shop there too.
- Re: Barber shop
by davo (Member 10030212) on 27-Jul-2005
Yes you are right , there was a
interflora florist two doors down and i think there was a co-op in
between the florist was run by a Mr Wardlaw , i used to go to school
with his son Robert . There was also a girl called Kim Bennet who used
to live near where you lived . This was in the 60"s though
- Re: Barber shop
by pauline hobson (Member 10159275) on 27-Jul-2005
there was a sweet shop opposite
the barbers, dont remember the name, just that it was very dark inside
and smelt of cigarettes. I saw a doll in a pushchair in the window which
i adored and wanted, but I had to catch measles before I got it! Worth
it. Do you remember the name of the shop?
- Re: Barber shop
by pauline hobson (Member 10159275) on 28-Jul-2005
Ive remembered the sweet shop name! Durbins. Sweets, toys, newsagent and tobacconists. Anyone else remember this place?
- Re: Barber shop
by janice spragg (Member 10159377) on 6-Aug-2005
I lived in Featherstone Road from
1955-1967. Next door to our flats was the Working Mans Club (where Dad
spent half his time)then Durbin sweet shop, a butcher shop where I used
to go and play with the daughter who was about3 or 4 years younger than
me, then another Durbins but this time a greengocers and on the corner
of Featherstone Road and Featherstone Terrace a general store. Across
from there was a sweet
shop and then the Featherstone Arms (where Dad spent the other half)
Opposite was St Johns Road where I lived as a baby and the Dadaks bakers
Bastions sweet shop Yaplins fashions and Johns the greengrocer.
Opposite out flat was Collins Electricians and Sharps Funeral Directors.
Across from E ... more >>
- Re: Barber shop
by janice spragg (Member 10159377) on 6-Aug-2005
I lived in Featherstone Road from
1955-1967. Next door to our flats was the Working Mans Club (where Dad
spent half his time)then Durbin sweet shop, a butcher shop where I used
to go and play with the daughter who was about 3 or 4 years younger
than me, then another Durbins but this time a greengocers and on the
corner of Featherstone Road and Featherstone Terrace a general store.
Across from there was a
sweet shop and then the Featherstone Arms (where Dad spent the other
half) Opposite was St Johns Road where I lived as a baby and the Dadaks
bakers Bastions sweet shop Yaplins fashions and Johns the greengrocer.
Opposite out flat was Collins Electricians and Sharps Funeral
Directors. Across from Elmfield Road was a shoe menders, Wardlaws
florist, barber shop, Co-op cigarette kiosk manned by Lily Poulton and
the wonder grand Co-operative Stores where we gave a divi number with
our purchases. ... more >>
- Re: Barber shop
by pauline hobson (Member 10159275) on 11-Aug-2005
Ha ha ha ha! Good old Dad! Nice one Janice!
- Re: Barber shop
by Carol (Member 10177475) on 19-Feb-2006
The barber shop on the corner of
Elmfield Rd and Featherstone Road owned by Mr Clifford, he had 4 sons
Kenny, Alan (2 others I can't remember) and a daughter Julie, who I took
to Old Time dancing with me, Mr Clifford used to dye my dancing shoes
for me to match my dresses, anyone know anything about the Valance &
Bonner School of dancing?
- Re: Barber shop
by davo (Member 10030212) on 22-Feb-2006
Hey Sis ,the other two were Raymond and Bill
- Re: Barber shop
by Carol (Member 10177475) on 22-Feb-2006
Thanks brother of mine, I think my memory is failing me (ha ha) this stuff is addictive eh?
- Re: Barber shop
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-May-2010
Cliffords the barbers was next to Wyatts shoe repiers, the block was owend by George Wyatt my gdad.
- Re: Barber shop
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-May-2010
Gdad Wyatt was also accountant Fetherstone working mens club 50s.
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Sink estate education
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by Reader (Member 10122086) on 27-Jun-2004
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"The children of the estates are our society's lost children." - Iain
Brimswall, 'The Zoo Keeper' (p145). Visit urbanrim.org.uk.
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Red Lion p.h.
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by lynne adams (Member 10126234) on 11-Jun-2004
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Are any old customers out there? Ran the Red Lion from about 1970 - 1978
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Jun-2004
I certainly remember the Red Lion, but before your time Lynne- I was a regular 1948-~1954!
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 12-Jun-2004
I remember the disco's round the
back in the early seventies, always a bit fiesty.. Fridays or Saturdays
cant remember, the old grey matter aint wot it used to be
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by lynne adams (Member 10126234) on 13-Jun-2004
If I remember correctly it used
to be on a fri and sat night a chap called Dino used to be on the door.I
was usually in the bar not the disco.
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by kelly gowland (Member 10108232) on 4-Jul-2004
yes hi my family used the red lion and worked there ,they were the gowlands my mum worked there during this time frame .
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by lynne adams (Member 10126234) on 6-Jul-2004
cant remember her what was her
first name.My ex hubby was called Pat Dunne and at the time we had an
irish barmaid called Anna Sweeney
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by kelly gowland (Member 10108232) on 19-Nov-2004
hi my mums name was karen gowland and my auntys were weenie and theresa .
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by lynne adams (Member 10126234) on 24-Jan-2005
sorry not to have replied for so long I remember Theresa well she is Irish and used to wear huge glasses remember me to her
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by Richard Mullans (Member 10107842) on 26-Feb-2006
Was that the Red Lion on the High Street near the fire station? If so I remember a landlord called Sean
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Mar-2006
No, the Red Lion was, going in the Ealing direction, on the right hand side of the Uxbridge Road, just before Southall Park.
The nearest pub to the Fire station, on the opposite side of the
Uxbridge Road, was the Three Horshoes.On the same side of the road as
the fire station, going towards Ealing, was first the George and Dragon,
then the White Hart opposite the Odeon. (Going by my memories from the
1950's!)
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by dan phillips (Member 10224311) on 6-Apr-2008
a bit ancient in adding to the
red lion history but I have just found knowhere. I used the rl in the
fifties its location was at the entrance to southall market and enjoyed
priveledged licensing laws because of the market. I also used the white
horse when stan fenn had it and billy phillips used to put on shows
there (well stag parties mainly) crikey I could write a book but there
are three problems with getting old, one is you lose your memory and I cant remember the other two. ... more >>
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-Apr-2008
Dan-interested to see your entry.
I wonder how many times we were in the RL at the same time?? The RL
used to do very good pub lunches as I recall.
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 2-Feb-2009
The pub was called the White Hart
not Horse you were right Stan Fenn was the governer Billy Phillips was a
bus conductor he use to mimic Max Miller I think Max was annoyed about
it.
Fifteen pubs are now closed in Southall
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 27-Feb-2009
Hi I lived at the back of the
White Hart pub in fact had my wedding reception there ,we self catered
and Mrs Fenn opened the back gate sothat we could carry the food just
across the road. Loonie Donagan Akka Bilk Chris Barber and Kenny Ball
played there quite often and the noise in our front bedrooms was great
if you were`nt trying to get to sleep, My dad used to be barman there
when they were busy.
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by Len Goddard (Member 10234853) on 1-Apr-2009
Hello Shelia I am afraid the
White Hart is going to be demolished in April '09 an Indian owns the
land they are going to build flats nd shopping units Mr. Fenn would turn
in his grave.
It was occupied by drug dealers,squatters annd prostitutes it was front
page of the Southall Gazette last week over 10 pubs have closed down in
the town.
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 6-Apr-2009
I was really sorry to know that
The White heart is comming down I know we have to have progress but it
was such a nice building, and for me it held happy memories. I have`nt
been to Southall for years, but prehaps it`s the best way. My friends
from Southall are visiting me next week so I expect they will bring me
up to date . I live in kent now, have done for the last 20yrs
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 6-Apr-2009
Sorry Len not very good on the
computer. forgot to put this in my letter I went to Dormers Wells
Where did you live and go to school
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by josie (Member 10235627) on 20-May-2009
HI Len,my mother worked in the
kitchens of the White Hart when Fenn was there,i remember waiting for
her inside around to the right of the building where there was a
magnificent stair case,also he had a German Sheperd Dog tied up in the
garden which was always foaming at the mouth,would not be allowed
today,my father used to do part time bar work at the Red Lion,very sad
to hear the White Hart going, has good memorys for me. ... more >>
- Re: Red Lion p.h.
by Jennie Isaac (Member 10265707) on 26-Sep-2011
My dad was a Red lion regular his
name was Pat Buckley around 1970's he also frequented the labour Club
in the alleyway next to Woolworths and was a barman for many years in
the Ealing hospital Social Club
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Looking For
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by diane (Member 10038566) on 4-Jun-2004
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I am looking for Janet Hawes, L.K.A South Av Gds.
Janet was my best friend at school
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Italian/American looking for a friendly female
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by Joey (Member 10125644) on 1-Jun-2004
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Looking for a nice Indian girl for fun in and out of bed. If you would
like a great time with a generous good looking male E-Mail me at
joecavaliere1@aol.com
- Re: Italian/American looking for a friendly female
by Tony (Member 10124818) on 4-Jun-2004
Me too , let me know where you get them ha ha ha ha
- Re: Italian/American looking for a friendly female
by Joey (Member 10125644) on 24-Apr-2006
Hey Joey...I'd love to meet a sexy Italian/American.....want to meet??
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Places to rent in Nerja
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by Holiday Nerja (Member 10124906) on 20-May-2004
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I would like to introduce you to Holiday Nerja. We have a variety of
one and two bedroom self catering apartments available for rental
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