Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse
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by David Taylor (Member 10103609) on 5-May-2013
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I can show you how to make great savings on your household and business
utilities. I can also introduce you to an opportunity to make a second
income, simply by helping your friends and family to save money.
Ask me for more information.
David Taylor.
Authorised Distributor
The Utility Warehouse Discount Club
Tel.0208 886 0392 Email. avidt@yahoo.co.uk Website www.getsavings.net
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
RARE FILM...in
google...movietone...1963 3 oct beeching cuts union strike..southall
people getting to work..car traffic going up to traffic
lights,,right.george dragon..left.sweet shop corner.o odeon
cinema.uxbridge rd..hanwell bus garage.high st hanwell..no trains
sign..dead rail sheds..no movement..hoover
factory..boofont.hair.backcombed.60s girls going work stiletoes..those
fine thin gergette scarfs
to hold raise hair in place..laquer.spray...teddy boys drain pipe
trousers..elvis quif hair..207 bus..way back when it 1st started after
607..film..rare.clever memories archive.....nostalgia....social history
clothes fashion.early morning workers..loads bikes...london
tramsport.strike..southall...and hoover.also...factory western
ave.....happpy bank holiday everybody....nice weather.spring flowers etc
everywhere.etc ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
ha....morning .weather on
bbc.tv...carol..at ruislip lidon..swans coutts.tufted ducks.beach..new
restaurant opens june...chuff chuff train.light rail..hootsloud..60 yrs
now ..one steam..40 mins around..by woods...good film..on today tv..am
bbc news...where cliff sang for young ones film...no row boats now..but
rare black swan....gulls..etc .fishing...cordys being spoken..of..old
days..parade between..northcote
rd of pub and saxon..newsagent....pub so many people used..loads
memories....think still shell..boarded....off broadway......
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-May-2013
Yvonne & all Ruislip lido on 6 O/clock BBC news it looked packed.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-May-2013
Yvonne, I can never find these old bits of film and photos you mention but I'd like to and I wonder what I'm doing wrong
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
IF PAULINE..FRED CAN..GIVE MORE
IDEAS.....LOTS PEOPLE..USE FLICKR..they have flickr..lots viewings our
photos by general......back through our pages here..have written it out
dozen times.....see the entries......dilys uses it..ron...len
did..dennis has own flickr also...etc etc
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
yes bank hol ..hot so
unusual.....but nice..people like it....yes national news through
country ..london lake and ruislip lido...light railway..famous
train..one steam..etc.etc
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
6 am bbc van there
camera..weather girl carol..mist at 1st..9 am..bbc tv weather and
sun.swans..empty.just nature reserve black swan..etc.etc..bank hols
so..unusual crowd went....lovely film on tv..cliff filmed sang young
ones there benny hill filming there etc...speed bird campbell
there...info centre nature centre there photos etc..restaurant
cafe...pub etc..used to be waterski....olympics train...row boats....woods ancient oak etc ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-May-2013
Campbell gave a demo of
Bluebird at the lido says he gave the throttle a blip
& the boat was across the lido.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
yes..lido society
there...room.displys etc etc..in google about it all..and
campbell...yes...300 ft long lido yr1810 to feed canal...feeder came out
hayes bridge southall but filled in..not needed brent river crane
enough..hearn hamlet cottages complained but canal.flooded theirs..gt
birds etc there....black swan..heron..etc etc..waterski gone..this yr
.decide what to bring back..of lido waters for kids...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-May-2013
just found my photo.....blue bird
...high water swoosh.speed ruislip lido lake...april
1959....pauline..have been told today northcote pub still boarded the
same....have asked to be let know..what happens there..when....new tv
series.yesterday channel 19..freeview...shooting war..film.tonight
11pm..women..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-May-2013
lovely set 6
..stamps..head...queen for june 60yrs abbey coronation...very well
done...beauty stamps...state open parliament tomorrow..tour of manor
hse..read that there is tunnel under rd to west side of southall
green...1856 manor hse...wonder if it was tunnel..to featherstone hall
of ..wolsey....who had henry 8th visit..to lord manor...and henry
went..dormans manor hse deer pk..hunting to syon..hse...
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-May-2013
Thanks Yvonne for the latest news
on the "Northcote". Although I didn't ever go in the pub, apart from
getting my mum's Guinness in the Off Licence, it was still a part of our
lives while we lived there. I expect, like me, you will also have a
very clear picture of the hive of activity that went on there. Not
having cars in those days, we always had to walk past it to get to our
house further down the
road, and it was always noisy, especially in the summer. There was
always someone singing, plenty of laughter amidst the clinking of
glasses, and often someone leaving the premises a but unsteady on their
feet! Charlie Howe was always there at the weekend selling his cockles
and winkles, etc. outside. It was a place for the workers to go for a
pint (or two) after a hard day's work, meeting up with friends,
especially at the weekend. My dad was often up there on a Sunday morning
until the pub closed around dinnertime. I know we had to wait until he
got in before we had the dinner together.I suppose being a listed
building it can't be demolished? ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-May-2013
yes delays many yrs.of
derelict..because listed..edwardian..deco....say hotel or old peoples
home..will let you know...yes wayy of life was so rich vivid..buzzed
with social activity..worked hard..but social life interaction...my 2
uncles..had to be dragged to leave west ave..northcote was .after
work..their friends social life..weekends only....money not gt..but pint
beer join darts team..aunt won
cups womens darts..there...public bar dominoes..saloon bar..dressed
wonderfully sat night my aunts table..little sparkle..genteel necklace
earrings..watch..georgiette posh dress... seams
stockings..stiletoes..earings..but superviser kearley..overtime piece
work she earned her night out walk home through alley..warcry for me
from salvation army visit bar..bttle pop....sunday only
men...beer..natter...bring home winkles.shrimps.....roast dinner..kip in
afternoon..up for tea bread butter.....never missed sunday lunchtime
friends..lifetime..men only went..wife kids home..gran...yes me
offlicence snug...few times.....so many generations 1910 to 1970s....no
cars local walk..to entertainment..natter with neighbours
friends.....only cheap..beer .buy a round..out of wage pkt ..not too
bad..nobby took a £5 note..my uncle...to their death..local sunday
lunchtimes..well nobby age 87..visited him.home..he could not get out to
pub..across rd..he laughed......his gdad his dad .1870 southall...were
same..local men together worked gathered pub..beer....water bad in old
days ..boiled beer
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-May-2013
got photo yesterday......of
emma..hubby george..gladys who married bunce..and our dear joan
northcote table beer....gt close up good quality photo 1950s..he died
1961..emma not till 1980ish....grandaughter bought it still there..magic
computers contact..exchanged photos..gave her mine...thoughts
leave..australia..seems signs of but her children..local...so she is the
last of that huge corner of history
there..born in the house 1961...my aunt went west ave down for
birth...and we went in 1980 s tony took us to see her mum
passing..cancer...so they are still there 2013..last of huge history of
you all there........she has modernised it of course with her hubby 2
kids................walls must have memories ears..when..war
piano..songs..families chatter...houses get left but what stories they
could tell...northcote wow stories sing songs..full tables
drinks..crowds friends family chatting....cigs.....but now it is pub
restaurant meal..but often at celebration time huge table family friends
birthday etc...... ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-May-2013
Yvonne-the name Bunce rings a
distant bell. The caretaker of North Road School-I was there
1934-1940-was a Mr Bunce- he had a house in Meadow Road. We used to see
him occasionally when he was called in to clear up vomit!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-May-2013
geneology searches census
1911..and .ifo later...quite a few bunce around southall and
nearby.......inlaws...was northcote ave one..of brothers..his dad...1935
yrs.....our one married..bought hse windsor..moved there had
son..........marriages 1935 yrs .our ones stag nights hen nights the
working full time fiance...they used northcote pub..getting together
revolved around pub neighbours friends then..house
parties families...xmas club northcote...save during yr..payed for
kitchen barrell beer with tap..and big fresh turkey etc....couple bttles
spirit in sideboard........get me to church on time..have...merry night
before would he get up aisle holy trinity..she had 1935 big huge lily
bouquet as was fashion..botton holes bridesmaids.corsage.mum...21st
birthday party my cousin..from west ave new suit....but bit too
merry...ha....nortthcote saw some good times...lounge bar grand shiny
black piano..dance floor stage.....sing song upright piano saloon
bar..everybody dressed up,,sat tables..new ladies hair do...astrakan
collar nice coats..sparkle delicate brooch...they worked many hrs all
week....kids home with nan.take nan stout home....no cars..so walk to
local activities nearby then..mainly....eyewitness film 1956 in
google..south rd..cinema..farr estate agent..trolley bus etc...donald
sinden..woman witness cinema manager.murder....1930s penny went tudor rd
infants..livedsouthall 31 yrs..glover maiden name ..lived opposite
infants dormers wells lane father charles photographer shop
southall..she loved mart 4 shops along saxon rd..sold everything...was
war yrs..southall girl... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-May-2013
britain from above ...free site
in google....aerial..1923 1932...southall..rail canal..brentford gas
co..the low..items..before high holder built greman design
1930ish..300ft ish tall...scott emulsion..factories..clear from
air..after war .returns of 1918/9.....quieter...1928/30 council
housing..getting into..build up...gradually....1935..charter mayor
borough southall to 1965..carnival photos film..shows
charter scroll..mayor and 1959..carnival 3 girls gowns carnival queen
float..busy huge crowds butlers .high st ..park hot july...hayes still
annual carnival and hanwell...our bunce inlaw..1934 to 1940..only kid
then........several...that surname about...not know ..one living meadow
waye...what was yours christian name..where did he go when left..not
know really..thanks...usually older man..caretakers..if in caretakers
house .by school.by council..there..rent comes inwith job..free
housing..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-May-2013
mr meads bk is nice...tudor rd
school mr coleman caretaker..10yrs..and of caretaker name there for
southall county sch grammar...tudor opened 1906/7 woolford miss
head..250 pupils..gas light to 1952..no phone till 1948..1954 dormers
primary opened...celeb 150 yrs north rd 1851..old school...
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-May-2013
At Southall County School (which
it was called when I was there)the first Headmaster was Mr Pollitt, and
the first Caretaker was Mr Albert Perkins who employed Richard Meads
when he was nine and a half doing errands for 1/- per week (5p).
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-May-2013
dennis......wonderful....navy
today illustrious...greenwich..70 yrs bttle atlantic..bk we did at
school fo gce ..cruel sea....see 10yrs now ..new flats canary wharf
etc...o2....vets..there..ensign....pilots air crriers....food to brits
war...etc....bomb alley....uboats..convoys.....fly past..7pm..now
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-May-2013
hubby and I been through thames
barrier.couple times gt..16 hrs from portsmouth..our favourite day
out...one show bbc tv...swordfish..helped sink bismark...fly
past...helicopters..uboats sunk..when poss...russian medal deserves...my
southall cousin ships career lifetime....
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-May-2013
Thanks Yvonne watched it on the one show.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-May-2013
today newspaper.....girl chalked
hopscotch outside home pavement..game...police explained criminal
damage.....games played playground etc...cats craddle
handstands...etc...
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-May-2013
Its a bit like Victorian times.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-May-2013
just saw how much the running
track...used at spikes bridge...lilian board 1948 to 1970..in 1966
ran.inter club meeting.there southall 100yds....mbe .olympics..died
bowel cancer.....road named after her greenford...ealing
family......dame kelly holmes spikes bridge pk...1948 olympics
practice..there....etc
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-May-2013
just saw ..2 police ramsgate kent
told 10yr old girl....dad age 51 has put in formal complaint...bucket
would wash white chalk...or rain.....
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-May-2013
just saw ..2 police ramsgate kent
told 10yr old girl....dad age 51 has put in formal complaint...bucket
would wash white chalk...or rain.....
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-May-2013
What are they going to do transport then to a playground in Australia.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-May-2013
the times kids picked up chalk
blackboard school..mischief...now smart boards..white..computer boards
as well...ha..different world,,,apple blossom out.etc gt
flowers....leaf......saw 6 baby canada geese born canal..pulling at
plant food..healthy..bright yellow.fluffy.....
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-May-2013
I was thinking back on all those
wonderful days in the 1930's and early 1940's when I used to play
hopscotch with all the rest of the girls in Northcote Avenue. Yes, I did
say girls, because I can't remember the boys playing it with us. I
think they were employed more with flicking cigarette cards and marbles,
football, and more rougher games! We always congregated outside the
same house of Mrs Fuller.
She had several children of her own and was a member of St John's
Ambulance and always looked very smart in her uniform. As we were on an
estate, there was very little traffic to contend with, and only one
neighbour had a car and he was the local bookie! There were two
costermonger carts of Percy Rose and the Ive boys, but they weren't
working in the evenings when most of our activity took place, and they
had horse & carts anyway. I can't remember ever being told to "clear
off". With the heavy traffic around nowadays, it would be quite
different, and with the advent of television and computers now,
hopscotch wouldn't be as popular. Hopscotch was "free" and thank god for
it. As for the chalk, it wasn't a problem then, but things change! ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
outside the wooden gate west
ave..lovely square paving stones..white chalk..and lovely
hopscotch..1950s no cars..some coloured chalks at school.in the teachers
front desk..lovely blackboards to wipe off...but many yrs
now...modern..white smart boards..computer use .in classrooms..several
yrs now...he had his pride yellow privet hedge then 2 green
privet..other sides..end of terrace..lawn flower beds
ad hollyhock under the window..love in the mist .and other
favourites..front garden..but car port now..in 2012 street view...but
neat tidy....huge trees pavement grown now... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
some of the community service
police help..might be very young under 20...wonder if they did not know
hopscotch....but some new estates lawns residents rules......also
countries with front sweeping lawns very neat.never have seen pavement
chalking etc...board14 page 3.lovely painting hopscotch.1897..remembered
front public bar northcote they played crib.draughts..shove ha
penny...etc..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
keith....excellent item
..in..google....disused stations southall...............maps photos also
..os map..trumpers crossing.1876...and shows the waters canal..earl
jersey osterley managed to get off the river brent...my family norwood
green 1800 onwards...jerseys brickfields canal etc..ag labour.orchards
mkt gardening...going across to growing at south ealing...was .also
work..as well as through fern
lane to all areas around harmondsworth...work ..places..yrs 1800s
1900......then 1920 onwards gdad and his son..helped build st mary hall
norwood green..and well know rt warren..houses everywhere.....many rail
workers lived terraces clarence st etc....... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-May-2013
Thanks
What words do I type into google? Many thanks in advance
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
yes google...is so good just type
in..a few ..words and up it comes....loads info....good index...my
southall cousin..canada.......his daughter works for google san
francisco.....
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
disused stations.southall
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
fred................you spoke of
tony mercer...1982 norwood green residents society 63 pages
booklet..photos text///..has 1967 cricket match 2000 attended..black
white minstrels played with fraser hines..lesley
crowther..minstrels.....7ft cricket bat with bill lewis wolf pub
photo,,,,,,
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-May-2013
Yvonne > > Thank you so
much. I would never have seen those photos without your help. NOTE
the ordnance survey map: > > It shows the remnants of the old
drove road (cut by the canal) WEST of Trumpers Crossing Halt at "Warren
Farms", and you can then see how the road went across to Norwood Green
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-May-2013
yes so good......1878 os..also in
google older maps....my family 1800s onwards..norwood green...married
across at ealing..labour work..mkt gardening...walk..for work
trumpers...drove..take produce..south ealing huge area fruit etc
brentford mkt ddown at the high st...then..working both areas cutting
across trumpers..records their rented dwelling and kids baptised norwood
green st mary.......to 1928..my
crowd local there..then spreading..from 1928 onwards.....but mainly
local....fern lane to work at harmondsworth across field huge labour
work over there they went...one had greengrocer fruit shop..opposite
church heston..one had one uxbridge high st...one born 1844 took
canal.to brentford did apprentice there..became licenced lighterman
master...docks london poplar..came home to die left £3000
1912.southall......gt ships cargos..canal..was gt for southall norwood
green..... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-May-2013
huge massive crowds...close up
women....brit pathe news...free in google...1935 lord mayor london
opens...southall norwood hospital.......close up of the gem century
cinema.......etc......6pence of view go to top of recently new near 300
ft gas holder....went to hospital.....german design gasholder...the blue
tower,,,,LH..........1939 war
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-May-2013
dambusters 70 yrs tonight tv
bbc2.7pm..film saturday 3.30 channel 5..........monday
20th...freeview.channel 9 bbc4...somme tunnels...9pm
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-May-2013
£1000....1st 2 years of
eagle...dan dare...bound volumes of child who collected every one..yrs
ago...his dad bound.....antique roadshow
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-May-2013
I have just found a full
cigarette card album-"Militaty Uniforms of the British Empire". I have
other albums. I understand stamps in albums are not particularly
valuable.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-May-2013
I have John Players album of
1930s aircraft its worth very little. the cards have most
value if there lose & never been stuck in a book.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-May-2013
hanwell in..google.......tram
depot high st..1927.....and 19 sept 1936...in the booklet.......in
google.........ealing.home.london transport museum..pdf......lovely
booklet photos...in google.....also..in google....hanwell
remembered.book one..1979 by community association........1933
hanwell...nice read.......
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-May-2013
1930 uxb rd hanwell...sweets
gwyther...tobacco...goden butcher fruit....muir library,,,,1927 1936
tram depot.hanwell......wakefield photographers....ingleton...tom
smith...staceys overalls.....gas lamps..overhead wires transport......
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Elizabeth Robinson
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Apr-2013
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I used to go to Sadlers Wells Opera house a lot during the 1950's.
They had a soprano, Elizabeth Robinson, who as I recall came from
Norwood Green.
Anyone remember her???
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Apr-2013
WAS SHE OF AMERICAN ORIGIN...
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Apr-2013
Yvonne-I don't know.
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 25-Apr-2013
Apparently there was a soprano
called Elizabeth Robinson who sang with Dame Joan Sutherland that is all
I know. Where their any particular productions that stood out for you
Michael?
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 26-Apr-2013
Sorry that should read 'there' any ....
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Apr-2013
soprano more than 40 yrs born
1921..had 9 children..now age 91 new york..also much loved australian
sutherland.we love your opera house and harbour..worked for bbc tv.had
free tickets for aida.covent garden.when filming..was splendid.massive
huge on stage.head blown away by it.took dad from southall...gt sets
costumes volume cast.music..with restored flower hall.wonderful glass..
refreshments..placido.does
a couple of on screen free operas..in covent garden piazza...just had
the selfridges on tv..lived 1939 norwood green..the handsome villas
there..several well to do lived..hayley mills etc..just had anzac day
harefield by southall ruislip..parade.hospital of amputees like couple
australian hospitals southall...st mary church.large space australian
graves.ceremony annually..and through the village on green they
recuperated.on our photo boards the village high crest pole.is a globe
with animal hare in the middle and map australia.cut out all around the
edge.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Apr-2013
pauline spoke of hedges
blossom..canal.southall...today.news the river canal
trust..planting.hawthorn.blackthorn..old has died off..british
waterways..done so much well over 10 yrs..loads money..locks tow
path..canal local..but recession..all advertising for volunteers again
now..daffs blooming..swans ducks cormorants..green parakeets.squark.high
nest in..mobile phone mast.north 5 mins from spikes bridge.fishermen.leisure and homes barges..butterflies birds..picnics on canal lawns ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Apr-2013
Lovely to hear that the River
Canal Trust is planting Hawthorn trees again along the canal. That is
the one thing I missed seeing in the current photos of Bankside, and
that was the "May trees" as I used to call them when I was little. They
were all along the side of the towpath and looked beautiful in May! I
used to put them in my hair and walk past the old ladies who used to sit
outside their terraced houses by their gates. They called me the May Queen. Happy days in Southall 1936! ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Apr-2013
may day so popular yrs ago..we
had maypole ribbons dance primary school field..heston park fair.goes
back to rural times .take labourers on..today they said hawthorn
delayed..not in bloom yet,,lots primroses so delicate lemon..up from
spike bridge.woodland marina area.hounslow heath hedges,huge..for
sparrows..northolt airport had to take tall ancient hedge away for glow
yellow huge metal fence..safety
for olympics typhoons there..now airambulance...antique roadshow just
valued war siren and original crate £200..not rare.lots about.all
covered ears.at awful sound..switch 2 volumes...5000 dollars fridge cola
dispenser war and 1950.red..39...value....cola head office now
uxbridge.....bethnal green.siren hundreds went down tube.buses
arrived.crowd down.but squashed to death on steps.memorial there. ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Apr-2013
Yvonne-thanks for the info on
Elizabeth Robinson-glad to know she is still around.I hadn't realised
that she was rhat much older than me-some 7 years.
Fred-my main memory of Elizabeth is the "trousers " role of Siebel in
Faust-"he" was Faust's student. I also saw her in Mozart's " Il
Seraglio."
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Apr-2013
mozart our favourite...saw at
barbican..new centre built behind st pauls when all flattened at
blitz..all our popular sopranos etc good today.in webber
phantom..london..cats and les mis..all the musical theatre.and welsh
catherine jenkins..PHYLIS.went by norwood green recently..lovely couple
yrs now new...sign post design..welcome to norwood green at 3 bridges
and wolf....coming back to 3 bridges from
150/152.brunei villa..the new 3 bridges.small triangle park..looks
nice...seat..shape of letters..large..says 3 bridges..along
canal..lawn..was old.sea scout area..west side.exactly next to
brunel..famous achieve bridge..gillettes in distance think got new white
front same building tower..in progress hotel..but side back huge walls
windows of factory untouched.. ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Apr-2013
placido...sopranos,,covent garden..tonight to 9pm..freeview channel 9.......excellent..wonderful performances.....
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 26-Apr-2013
Yes Michael, trouser roles they
are a quaint opera tradition and always add a certain frisson to a
production. I wonder if there are any recordings of Elizabeth Robinson
around?
I always enjoy the Barber of Seville.
Speaking of barbers, I saw an episode of Endeavour the other night &
young Morse was having his haircut and at the end the barber had his
little stainless steel bottle with a rubber
bulb attached & at the end of the haircut he squirted Morse's neck
and I was immediately transported back to North Rd & being a young
boy & sitting in the barber's chair there.
I remember being squirted as we all were but does anyone know what was in those bottles? Just curious. ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Apr-2013
Yes Fred i remember that at
Jacks barbers at Lady Margaret parade as a small boy sitting
on a small plank across the arms of his chair.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 27-Apr-2013
Fred ......... would that barber
in North road have been MAC SMART? Mike remembers himn too! His
little barbers shop was opposite my parents shop.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Apr-2013
Yes Chris, I remember Mack Smart very well.
Half his premises was a second hand shop.I remember having my hair cut
half done, when Mack would go off to serve someone in the second hand
shop!
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 27-Apr-2013
I remember my brother used to go to Mac Smart for a short back & sides 1/6d.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 27-Apr-2013
Yes if memory serves it was just about opposite the the pub albeit on an angle with a bit of green in between.
Does anyone know what was in the bottle though? I don't think it was
Macassar oil. I'd say I stopped going there aged about 11 because then I
started growing my hair long (as was the fashion) and I used to go to
the barbers on the bend near Brockhouse shop near Mt. Pleasant Hospital.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Apr-2013
You've reminded me Fred about a barber who used to
come to our house in Northcote Avenue to cut hair.
He also gave dad a shave as well sometimes with a cut throat razor! I
can't remember his name but we always called him Mr?.He was a very
slight man, and always wore a long dark coat, and had black hair. I
remember I had just finished polishing the lino in our hall (there was
no carpet there) and he
walked all over it with his wet feet, as it had been raining and he
hadn't wiped them! Strange how you remember these things! ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Apr-2013
my uncle and others used the
brylcream of beechams brentford..kept hair dark tidy.short back
sides..but my husband.6th form grammar and onto science labs
npl.teddington..was jeans and long thick hair..ha..those flower
shirts..wedding day longish hair flair trouser suit...but soon goes to
complete opposite working in london suit..onwards.short neat hair.he
cant bare it.otherwise today .ha..olivier awards
today.from covent garden opera house..gt london theatre..demon
barber..sweenie todd just got gt awards..michael ball..amazing musical
theatre.doing well in recession.school curriculem..many yrs now.young
people do drama.lessons and visits.. ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 29-Apr-2013
I used to work for Mac Smart
after school and weekends as a lather boy. The so-called antimacassar
that was applied to customers hair as a dressing consisted of scented
water to which was added the red colouring that was supplied to colour
sausages. I know. I used to make it up. Happy days.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 29-Apr-2013
Fred-Did you ever see The Marriage of Figaro by Mozart??
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Apr-2013
we did ha.....tonys
favourite....have the music at home as well...dormers school trip went
to mozart salzburg had my photo by his statue mkt sq...piazza.ha...gt
music.voices..and such fun..funny..clever...been on tv several times
also....and magic flute..amazing......all at barbican..behind st
pauls....we saw
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 29-Apr-2013
Yes Michael I have seen it a few
times & have a wonderful recording of Bryn Terfel & Cecilia
Bartoli singing excerpts from it, "ding, ding, dong, dong". Which is
entirely different from Leslie Phillips 'ding,dong' ha ha. I'm also
always amused when I hear Terry Thomas call someone 'an absolute shower'
I don't think our American cousins could ever understand that one.
Thank you Roy for filling
me in on the stuff in the bottle. I always thought the oil was Macassar
and the bits of cloth on the back of furniture were the antimacassar's
i.e. to protect the furniture from the oil. ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2013
photo around 1950 years north rd
parade..on bend.west side going round to.mt pleasant
hosp..allendale..hairdresser roy..windows..vaseline..pal..products
displayed....photos soot of traffic uxb rd under ironbridge 1940s50s
massive polution..another extra photo white hart pub as was known to
us.busy as memory pub.nice photo..manor hse snow..and fountain.pond high
shooting up..etc etc
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2013
lovely spring film....in
google...youtube....brentlodge pk...bunny pk...peacocks..church.fast
flow brent .all there..western hairdressers was..north rd parade.....mt
pleasant
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 30-Apr-2013
I originally got to know about
Elizabeth Robinson from an article in the West Middlsex Gazette,
reporting that one evening she had been taken ill during a
performance.One of the audience was a gentlemman who had come to Sadlers
Wells by car, and he gave her a lift home.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2013
just seen...pauline.....gd info
mulberry famous manor hse 900yrs old..in gazette.old..one..photo..of its
huge narled trunk..bulging...wide girth..with.secretary hallett in
photo chamber commerce.mr bass..and sister
emanuel..scarisbrick...there.with it...we had our photos and info...of
old manor hse..occupants..on our boards..scarisbrick family....legend
henry 8th planted mulberry ..southall green..his
visit deer hunt..dormans manor hse to syon hse.windmill lane...wolsey
his archbishop..at opposite..featherstone hall..mansion..by romans ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Apr-2013
Michael referred to the local
paper, and l remember nearly 60 years ago as a paper boy delivering the
"Middlesex County Times & West Middlesex Gazette" Is this the one?
What happened to it? I live in W Sussex now and am almost out of
touch but can anyone remember when this paper ceased publication? Also, I
do have in my possession a "Local Road & Rail timetable" for
Uxbridge Ruislip & District
which lists all the local 'early closing days', and "Market Days"
(where relevant) - Hayes & Uxbridge early closing day was Wednesday,
Uxbridge Market days were Thurs & Sat. It shows first 607
trolleybus from Southall to Shep Bush on Mon - Fri mornings left
Delamere Road at 4:51 a.m.
... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Apr-2013
The timetable I referred to is dated June 1952 (just after KG VI died) and was priced at 4d.
It shows 83bus used to go via the Havelock Arms to the terminus at Hayes Blyth Road
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 30-Apr-2013
Keith-you are dead right about the local paper to which I referred
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Apr-2013
I remember my train spotting
days 1954ish 2 shillings would buy a return ticket from
Southall to Paddington & a time table.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2013
the...rail..tickets...southall to
slough..uxbridge..old vine st....etc..pence..1950s.....are on
ebay...nice to see them...enlarge...in google.......paddington
ones....southall
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 1-May-2013
Pauline you were talking about
the May trees a few days ago, I remember them along the brook off
Delamere Rd I think they were the ones we used pick and chew pretending
it was chewing gum ugh when I think about it now.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-May-2013
Hi Zeta. Yes, I can remember when
I first started going to Tudor road school when we moved to Northcote
Avenue I went with some older girls. When we used to pass a May tree
after we had gone through the alley in Dane road, they told me we had to
chew a piece of the green stuff of that May, and like a fool I used to
chew some until I stopped doing it. I was only five or six! I remember
it was quite bitter.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-May-2013
children bk
centre..newcastle,,blyton house cookham..by maidenhead.off
slough.....museum swanage....special exhibition tour this yr...rowling
doing gt at ..warner brothers north west london..day out..harry
potter.huge amount there..kate wills harry enjoyed themselves last
wee..gt photos in google..photos of old gazette 1970..nun family sold
manor hse to council 1912..she climbed the ancient mulberry...aviary
photo birds and awards photo 1972 man yrs lived inverness rd..tended
fower beds..open windows hospital..yews ..cedar
trees..lily.fish..fountain.high shooting water.gazette article ftn in
shed there.for safety but fire hut so it damaged..mike braden.memory
water.brick building storage for war..photo there...in google..facebook
manor hse..mastic gum tree bubble gum chew gum...resin...those huge
pink.blow..kids did..school..ban..stick..it under desk..oh under
shoe..freeze it to get it off sch uniform... ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-May-2013
a favourite of the added new
ones..google aerial photos..1920s 30s....steam train...over iron
bridge....new greenford rd..sweeps around...track of old crossroads
original windmill lane there..track along..back of space..where 1935
greenford hotel..new built.on...empty wide roads 2 black cars...uxbridge
rd..more at aerial 1930 top lock norwood lock..canal rail..aec...and
hayes..google says..springs
water of..iron bridge new greenford rd..had to sweep around to
avoid..of hanson area...golf links..so many yrs no right turn..up to
dormers and turn round back to greenford rd...huge traffic.... ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-May-2013
DENIS (or anyone)
Do you still have any records from your early days of the numbers of the
last steam trains on the Greenford branch before it "went diesel" in
1958?
Especially the 54xx class tanks. Either 5410 OR 5420 was one of the
last but this is the one that seems to have evaded the photographers.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
was worried no pink blossom.apple
tree yet...news just said..5 wks late....lovely pear blossom..and
streets with cherry....etc...coldest ever march 50 yrs..record lowest
temp easter..wind chill factor..blizzard hail stones..saw from
siberia..ha...and fruit trees stressed because of record wet rains last
yr..just heard pauline dennis cricket finished at new spikes
bridge.facilities...keith you asked
turner..our 3 bridges hanwell lock painting...videoed the gt bbc2
programme recently..he lived couple times..brentford....one of the best
programmes..so interesting..like national gallery and others..they do gt
talks..speakers events also..wonder of talent of turner..born barber
shop.dad..covent gdn...cockney.. ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
might help..in..google...lost
railway of middlesex..by mike hall.....20th century,,,,countryside
bks..£8 pbk...isbn..9781853068027..160 pages....and 6 middlesex books
there..general.......famous southall station rail society museum...in
google...they may know...london transport museum covent
garden..archive..and ealing local history library....tony used to watch
soot steam.trains..at feltham..bridge..in 50s....
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-May-2013
No sorry Keith cant help on that one.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-May-2013
Thanks Yvonne will take a photo next in Southall
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
says busy as
often...there..people..cricket...and cricket practice bays...I saw loads
football..and playground..items..lots kids using......ruislip lido..new
..centre displays info.going back all yrs.....building opens..end apr
may..cafe..new .light railway train.building...steam
one..£2.adults...300ft long lake.. trip.ancient woods....gt
staff...photos our boards....since 1930...loads swans canada
geese.tufted duck black swan..swans ringed..coots..egyptian
geese.moorhens..cormorants gulls..etc...festival.there day..in
may........... ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 2-May-2013
I think it was early 1960s when
the local gazette had I think three pictures of Turner watercolours that
were along canalside and bulls bridge (North Hyde). However, I have
never been able to trace them since. I presume the archive of gazettes
must include the relevant copy which I sadly did not save. Perhaps I
will find the opportunity and time to do a search some day.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-May-2013
Yvonne, is it because the old
Pavilion has been demolished at Spikes Bridge park that cricket
facilities are being finished? Surely though people can still play
cricket on their own if they want to.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
bill did several days research yr
ago..nat gallery told me christies sold .it..windmill...2008 roughly to
private buyer...asked them..but ..not give any more
info...newspapers..reported in google...london man flat..had it...around
that time....robbery...but got back......wish we could see the oils of
it..gt skill..genious...1805/10....he living at brentford high st.....if
london..or later ealing..library
gallery could have bought it for us to see...shame......pauline..spent
weeks reading in google spikes....yr ago and 6 mths ago....all there
..they say cost..keep old pavillion...sports groups..payed £560000 total
for...like most of the country modern sport..for all...southall using
excited about their new facilities..I am told....continue there for some
time.erecting....olympics wants...modern kids sport.future...for gb
like other countries....dame kelly holmes was there.at training..her gt
gold medals..we saw people use well there 2/3 yrs ago....sports at all
the big southall and local high schools facilities...modern..nice all
the different lives generations of all people.enjoyment ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
google has.spikes..southall
cricket club launch may 2012...large area grass..kids must play ball and
football..over side expect.sure they do.....professionals...huge money
they have put into it...middx colt league 2012..london tigers.cricket
club.huge part.....and other sports develop gradually
there..plans...huge push gb and other countries,olympics..schools parks
etc..colleges..phylis just been told yr1800s almshouses norw green still there...with bit of fiddling..got gt view..on new street view.... ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
bill...1960 gazette...ealing
library.....feel sure they were of..local..artist..ernest ham..he worked
yr1900...1930 yrs..libary has his oils and watercolours.....in
google..you can see them.......lots of canal.....northhyde..etc...bulls
bridge....mounds at old convent he painted...bridges..along...old
mill...flour then haigh.pcture frame...73 paintings..in google....and
phone library 1st they will
get out for you.....famous turner is of hanwell lock 92..windmill lane
of 3 bridges in background.1810 put on exhibition..london....postmill 2
millstones..sails at rest....horses .narrowboat..massive huge gt
value....many turner free gallery tate by thames...........smaller size
ordinary.smallish size of ham paintings..local.man.. ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-May-2013
Trust me to get it wrong Yvonne.
I've just read up in Google and have now got the whole picture of the
new facilities at Spikes Bridge park.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
oh wonderful..gt..so
pleased..coaching traing..club..kids....some of borough hillingdon kids
in gazette..age 13..16...training for cycling.....olympic in
mind..ha.....my student..had from age 11 to 17....wonderful girl and
parents..won 2 gold medals horses..all her
life..paralymp..disabled...gorgeous girl...she knows
me..queen..medal...mayor hillingdon freedom..town..etc...quiet..kind
girl...credit to many young people like her today...she is gorgeous ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 2-May-2013
Re: Lynne While by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 2-May-2013
would love to hear from Hazel still have trouble with friends reunited
how do you get to find where people lived? I am enjoying reading about
memories from Southall, so long since I have been there. still think of
England as home I have never heard where Chris Collins went started
going out with my first boyfriend after a party at Pauline Gross house his name Brian Stevens I left school after 4th
year Mum died in 1965 enjoyed living in the prefabs it was a good place
to grow up moved to the tower block with dad he worked at AEC I worked
at what was Heston airport then called Hestair it was down Southall Lane
I have looked on google and so much has changed would love to know how
old friends are doing
... more >>
Reply ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2013
yes lynne took photo of you and
everybody at 4th yr...sorry death....chris collins haz would love to
know..she is still on reunite....short page here click top in
mauve..southal..have replied long bits there for you .....my dad worked
hestair..age 7 went to xmas party in famous big hanger was largest built
world..still there preserved..uncle worked aec draughtsman
lifetime...dad went to boac heathrow..did
yours...happy canada lynne....streets...under places..reunite..we all
hate extremely bad changes there..wrote 7 times to complain...myself not
been able get street back...places.click..groups jobs.firms..etc..and
southall neighbours yrs lived..houses...so good to hear you..shoulder
blonde hair 1964 photos..sent off to haz told her .you contact.we
spoke.. ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2013
many of us lived
prefabs....myself down by 8th parade..end fleming..by bunny pk
path..greenford rd..maps..blocks parades our boards flickr..photos kids
play by prefabs trees...flickr..photos tower blocks
there..flickr...windmill lane up to greenford shops..little parade
shops..green by telford faraday....trek to infants new opened 1954..trek
to seniors..beehive pub still there..dr cohn..gp....christine
harding my friend prefab..back.would be 16thparade..back south from 8th
parade..mattingley 9th parade..greeve front fleming rd
parade.......side kitchen gas fridge..flip up table..larder..litte tin
door cupboards...tiny .coal fire..2 bedroom..sep toilet
bathroom....garden.shed coal.....quiet end parade 7/8 in each
parade...built by german prisoner s..war....hughes gazette 1st moved in
from shep bush 1947.....ish...dormers rise near you lynne...arnold
rd..my ..uncle inlaw lived high tower block...maisonettes burgess
ct...along front...church there..measles age 6..but ok..dark
room..there....tonsils out...edward7th hospital west ealing.princess
eliz ward huge.figures.colourful.huge value cost.tiles nursery
rhymns..by famous...gorge .ironbridge indust rev..museum.complex..huge
value tiles now at new ealing hosp..... ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-May-2013
The recovery of the WW2
German bomber you mentioned some time ago Yvonne has started on
the Goodwin sands type(DORNIER 17) the only one know to
exist.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2013
mike....fred....just
seen...c.w.g.commission.war 2..killed,,southall,,,,in house or at st
bernards emergency hosp...my cousin hubby..family..did not realise...age
3..david son of herb waldron.died at 143A.regina rd.28 oct 1940...ellen
mary millard 56.at 158 regina..29 aug 1944..mikes 2 purcell palace
cinema.it says..outside by..22.11.40..13 edith dot..violet annie 17age
of 81 lady marg rd..sorrell
22.11.40..cambridge rd....farrow of ascot gdns,number
204.30.9.1940...dennis.YOU SPOKE.....mansell rd..lever.died......135
regina rd...hull..george..age 74.on 30.9.1940...19 other civilian
casualties..southall..unidentified..buried.. ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2013
thanks dennis..interesting..will
follow it......90yrs raf...was mar/apr 2013.....northolt 9
times...display..turns etc...spit from..east england..hanger raf then
..back in 24 hrs...on...side runway for vips vets to go in..all
day........happy bank hol everybody..may day was always....many decades
fair heston...etc....maypole at school....gt weather......may flower
blooming..loads of it...spring bulbs
miniature grape hyancinths...forget me not...tulips..tree
blossom..borough ealing..yellow daffs rds roundabouts everywhere,,,,etc
etc ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 3-May-2013
dad did not go to the airport
stayed till retirement at AEC when did your dad work at Hestair? I
really enjoyed working there .left in 1970 I will contact Hazel will be
good to hear her news
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2013
oh you worked
hestair..everybody..have known..dads worked there..or during war mums
worked..there......1970..no....dad went boac heathrow..at close of
british eagle heston airport..hestair....I went fantastic huge xmas kids
party there..in famous big hanger still there preserved.....let haz
know hello from me.....everybody loved hestair...dads favouite
time..job..career....BA heathrow ..were terrible..still
are.....many say..............to retire for him...heathrow....happy
bank hols may day..lyn...cousin gone back alberta..worst snow yrs..6ft
he clears house..still there now.....best wishes your
hubby...family..canada..top here click southall in mauve...lady marg put
replies for you there... ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 3-May-2013
Yes Yvonne the Ellen Mary
Millards you mention was my grandmother and subjecto to re-building that
was the house I born into (after coming home from Hillingdon Hospital).
In November 2003 I made contact with a Barry Brooker who was living in Regina Rd at the time. He wrote :-
“Yes, I do remember the incident you refer to. We were living in Regina road when the bomb fell, I think it might have been a (doodle bug ). It blew our windows out, and I know it
"Me and my brother Keith went down to see the damage, and I remember
quiet clearly an old piano laying on its side, which we played with a
stick because all the inside was exposed. We also melted down some lead
piping, on a bomb fire, and made badges”.
... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-May-2013
very sad indeed your dear
loss..accounts by people.who were walking southall green areas and saw
it coming over..noise etc...many of those upright pianos..were
then...sing song..they had them in pubs like the willowtree ancient
pub.late 1960s...2 yrs derelict plot there now..expect will be residents
built...1958 kelvin gdns plane crash..and more rubble..was vey sad..my
friend alive today..child heston.war
house flattened..they went back in after war rebuilt she is still
there...my husband and I born in hillingdon hospital.around your
time..bit of after war bab boom.....gdad gt gdad and nans family..used
regina rd..lifetime..and old oak pub..1925 charabanc trip.photo all
local men..hung above the bar to .our visit 1980s..think it may be gone
now..we have copy..gdad friends with dines the landlord.. ... more >>
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-May-2013
The mention of Heston Airport
brought back some old memories. During WW2 I was in the ATC 1846
squadron, based at Featherstone Road School. We visited Heston airport a
few times. We had a few short flight in a De Havilland Domine.
Leter the USAAF was based there. In 1944 we used to go to the airport for gliding -exciting if a little scary.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-May-2013
remember the famous big hanger..was..gt .as 1st built..still there..heritage listed
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-May-2013
Yvonne-yes I do remember the big hangar-the gliders and equipment were kept there.
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-May-2013
later 1950s...staff had ..gt xmas
parties for kids in there....happy holiday weekend mike dennis
pauline...everybody....gt weather..all country side bits..flower
etc..gt....spring..summer..
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-May-2013
Eagle became Cunard Eagle, another disastrous business merger that seemed a good idea at the time
- Re: Elizabeth Robinson
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
dad loved brit eagle...gd
career.and hestair.....I flew brit eagle to italy £5..staff....small
nice.....gt bank holiday weather...gt
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Facebook
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by davo (Member 10030212) on 9-Apr-2013
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Just wondering if any of you are members of the " Are you an old face from Southall" on facebook ???
- Re: Facebook
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 10-Apr-2013
Yes, I am a member of are you an old face and also Are you a old face.Most members younger than me but some good pictures.
- Re: Facebook
by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 10-Apr-2013
Yes I am as well, I have been the
one posting a lot of pictures recently. The group with "an" rather than
"a" in it's name seems a bit more focused on Southall as it was than as
it is.
- Re: Facebook
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 11-Apr-2013
I am. Brilliant photos of 'old'
times and places in Southall, with lots of interesting info too. Most
of them added to the site by Colin (thank you for your hard work). Chris
x
- Re: Facebook
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Apr-2013
just seen..in google tudor rd
sch...memories history photos.pupils etc...by the school..clicked on but
no photos memories yet..pity..ron pauline etc..but the oates book
southall has some nice 1940s photos war at the school and pupils
etc..pity dedicated people this site cant see colins generous work
photos all memories comments..sure we could.enjoy so much and provoke
lovely comments memories..
- Re: Facebook
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Apr-2013
recent antique roadshow...medium
size.clay sculpture wally bird.tobacco jar.by robert wallace
martin.£30000...northern dealer..says suthul....heard other
northerners.say that..old maps southall.spelt southoul......of old
norwood.had the old part.up north called northcote..down to south part
called southall green..east field on map of havelock farm.later brick
making..21.11.1896.pottery canal.by robert
wallace martin.4 brothers buried havelock..of 8 kids....wiltshire sale
his mum left him.with wally bird.to tell her if he had been
naughty.60yrs ago..my nans uncle and his son.worked at the pottery... ... more >>
- Re: Facebook
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Apr-2013
They used the canal for
transporting pottery to London because journey was so smooth. Nothing
broke, whereas roads were so bad, many things had cracked when taken by
horse & cart. That's one reason why Southall chosen
- Re: Facebook
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Apr-2013
yes marvellous.....fulham
shop...then chose southall...canal..like..stoke trent wedgwood
etc..canal..so good for.pottery..roads etc so bad....my nan uncle..his
mum painter pottery burslem..he age 19..pottery..but ..left the
.terrible soot black smoke ..coal 5 town potteries..army joined..india
10 yrs..came into hounslow barracks1881 census..hundreds there..he is
near bottom pages...meets local girl..cranford
lane....marry 1881 1st child 1882..heston church...work...through fern
lane norw green..to canal pottery......his 1st son...kid worked
there..nickname all long life..to when ..I knew them...he called
knocker....bottom knocker.outer of..tubs.. of kiln..items in wood
tubs..for sculpture..pottery..bake...coal off canal......only went bake
burslem..stoke trent once....as wedding heston 1881...so visit
back...came heston with...blue white ..huge meet plates..she displayed
them..on shelf..old cottage cranford..lane..one still in family
today..from burslem.wedding present.1882......eyes of wally bird
£30000..huge followed the kid around..amaze
expression..clever..grotesque martin....they put new stone to brothers
at havelock grave...some yrs ago..havelock... ... more >>
- Re: Facebook
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 25-Apr-2013
Thank you Colin Harris for all
the wonderful pictures and information that you have put on :Are you an
old face: so far. I am really enjoying the passages from Middx. book
very much. Brings back so many memories especially to us oldies who
remember a little of the war years.
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Old shops - multiples
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Apr-2013
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I want to ask about shops, not operated by a shopkeeper with just one
shop, but little mini "chains" of shops. For example, I think
Abernethies had 3 branches as did T Parker & Sons the bakers.
But who remembers Williams Brothers and also Gerrards the greengrocers.
I think Gerrards had branches all over London, but there is no trace
of them now. What about Maypole, and Pearks, both once in
the parade at Greenford Avenue Hanwell but now long disappeared. What
other small chains of shops were once spread around our area but are
now long gone?? ... more >>
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 2-Apr-2013
anyone know when the greengrocers on Allenby Road closed down
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 2-Apr-2013
Timothy Whites & Taylors chemists, Freeman Hardy & Willis shoes, Ketts electrical, Musicraft, Platts
groceries, Bata shoes, Home & Colonial groceries, Bransons clothes. Mac Fisheries, Rumbellows electrical
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Apr-2013
MacFisheries yes, I remember one
in Greenford Broadway. . Also Ketts, now I remember their little
Morris Commercial vans. Thanks for that one!
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Apr-2013
street view in google allenby rd
..lynne.....gives idea...corner was co.op....allenby pub closed few yrs
now..it is heating shop instead.......driving test centre office along
there.....1964 new church there redeemer..dormers girls went when 1st
opened....greenford high st big ..many yrs stall still there fruit
veg..........
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Apr-2013
Keith-I remember Williams in
South Road well. In fact there were two sdjacent shops-grocery and
hardware.We were registered at the grocers during WW2. They had a novel
"divi" system in operation. In my day the manager was a
nice,business-like man. We also used the coop in the high street-my
mum's divi number was 270884!
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Apr-2013
What about our favourite
Woolworths and we used to always shop at Meyers the greengrocers. Don't
know if they're still in business.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by penny (Member 10265839) on 3-Apr-2013
There was a Gerrards the greengrocer in Western Road just opposite Watsons the butcher.
A neighbour worked in James Walker jewellers in South Street (I think)which was part of a small chain.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Apr-2013
Times Furnishing was another well
used furniture store. Bought quite a few items from there. Also the ABC
restaurant was everywhere.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Apr-2013
penny.............did she say she
knew....dot goldsmith harrison..worked james walker
jewellers...1950s..married holy trinity 1953 aug...kates gran...woolies
top our road we used all the yrs..when large boards at counters..price
3D 6D..old money...,photos williams bros..stores.their own money
coin.tokens..in google...ebay for sale..
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Apr-2013
Does anyone remember Sillitoes. I think it was a sweet shop, but can't remember whether there was one in Southall?
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Apr-2013
Yes, I'd forgotten Meyers the greengrocers
Also James Walker. They were everywhere once. Williams Brothers had a
branch in Greenford Broadway. They gave out metal tokens as a divi.
We found some in a jam jar a few years ago, and they are sought after
collector's items now, but ours had all rusted together
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Apr-2013
Stowells was a wine & spirits merchant, and there was one along the high street, on the opposite side of Northcote Avenue.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Apr-2013
Stowells also had a shop at
North Parade North Road i was a delivery boy there from
1956/58 i rode a carrier bike with a basket on the front
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 3-Apr-2013
What about the Co-operative
grocers just off King Street near the Dominion, My Dad always took me
there on the cross bar of his bike on a Saturday lunch time for the
weeks groceries, he would have a bag of groceries on each of the
handlebars and me on the cross bar, no health and safety issues then. I
could always remember the co-partnership number not many co-op grocers
about now.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Apr-2013
Let us not forget Sainsbury's on Southall High Street
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Apr-2013
Burtons and Perrings the
furniture shop were also another two shops in the high street. Perrings
was on the corner of Alexandra Avenue.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Apr-2013
Yes, but I was asking about the
SMALL chains. I think every town had a Sainsburys, Co-Op and a
Woolworths - they were everywhere. It's the small chains that only
locals can remember that I want to put on record
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 3-Apr-2013
Maypole, Pearks and Home and
Colonial were all national chains which along with Liptons all
eventually became part of the same group. There was a connection between
the Maypole shops and the Maypole factory at one time but this was
severed in the mid 1920's when the factory was taken over by van den
Bergh's and the shops were hived off to Home and Colonial although they
continued to trade under the Maypole name.
Gerrards, I believe, took over Meyers the greengrocers, I know that the
Meyers shop in King Street at the top of Havelock Road became a
Gerrards.
Depending on how local you want your chains then Hills the newsagents
had two shops (one in Western Road and one in Regina Road), Mullengers
the fishmongers had three I believe and Lodges the toy shop had two (one
in King Street and one in the Arcade in the Broadway (actually two in
the arcade, but one was just used for storage)). ... more >>
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 3-Apr-2013
What about SCOTCH WOOL SHOP -
that was just along from Woolworths. Hemmings Bakers in the broadway
near Moss Chemist. Clifton Browns and Clifton Evans. One is South road
the other in the Broadway. John Colliers on the corner of Herbert
Road. They might not be the ones you are after but they just came to
mind.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Apr-2013
Ah Had no idea that Maypole &
Pearks were national chains, but I knew Timothy Whites & Home &
Colonial were. I am reminded of sports shops "Shellshears". I think
there was one in West Ealing but was that their only branch.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 3-Apr-2013
Remember Meyers going over to
Gerrards, used to get pennywoth of specks from Meyers. and pennyworth of
broken bits from Dadaks bakers on way to school at St Anselms. My mums
Co-op was No 359733. and the lady who lived upstairs No was 721969.
also remember the tin money divi from Co-Op. Also one of Tescos first
supermarkets opening in the King St, next door to Gerrards, and Radio
Relay on corner of Hammond Rd. and of course Cogswells for seeds, hay and straw. gardening etc in King St. ... more >>
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 4-Apr-2013
I seem to remember that Cogswells were involved in setting up the original Garden Centre at Syon Park.
I think Shellshears only had the one shop all the references I can find
only mention the one, initially at 94 Broadway, West Ealing in 1902, by
1955 they had moved to 154 Broadway.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by penny (Member 10265839) on 4-Apr-2013
Yvonne,
Re my neighbours who worked at James Walker jewellers - they were Harold and Olive Chandler who lived in Wentworth Road.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Apr-2013
There was Philips mini market
next to Martins newsagents in Lady Margaret Parade i think
they had branch elsewhere but i think it whent in the
1960s.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Apr-2013
There was a butchers shop just
along the high street to the right of Northcote Avenue called Chapmans.
Don't know how many there were though. We always used Biggs the butchers
along by the little bakers and post office by Hambrough road.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Apr-2013
There used to be a shop which
sold second hand books and foreign stamps-known as the "Box of
Tricks"-run by a man who always had a fag on! Opposite Southall Mart???
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Apr-2013
I think he was called "John" Michael.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 4-Apr-2013
I remember the second hand
bookshop well but only knew it as "Johns" interesting to see the actual
name of it. He also sold bundles of comics for a few pence. I live in
Sevenoaks now and it is very cold and snowing hard as I write this.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Apr-2013
Now remembering Radio Rentals, Job's Dairies and Express Dairy. All disappeared now I suppose
Strakers (stationers), branch in Uxbridge Rd Ealing just east of the
Lido. Was that their only shop? Always smelled nice in there.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Apr-2013
I am sure Strakers had a shop in the Uxbridge Road Southall across from Walkers the jewelers.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Apr-2013
There was also Stones
domestic electrical appliance shop near Walkers remember dad
buying a radiogram there 1954.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 4-Apr-2013
had my first saturday job at Jobs
dairy got a pound hazel hockley's mum worked there too went to southall
market a lot had milkshake at wimpy
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Apr-2013
What about the 50 Shillings Tailors in South Road?
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Apr-2013
Yes Denis, there was a Strakers where you said. I used to buy all my school stuff there.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Apr-2013
I don't remember the Southall
Strakers, but clearly remember the Ealing one on the same side of the
Uxbridge Road around the corner from Lido cinema. 50/- Tailors were a
national chain I think, and there was one right at the top of Greenford
Broadway, in the arcade just west of MANSELL Road, and I think they were
forced to change there name as prices went up, so became "John Collier"
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Apr-2013
Also, does anyone remember the
old bus that was well pre-war and was only used as a staff canteen
standing outside Greenford MArket until about 1953. A bus research
group is trying to find out more about that one particular bus (ONLY).
I think it had been an open topper with stairs that curved around the
back, outside up to the top deck.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Apr-2013
Thanks Pauline i thought the
old gray matter was not playing trix, also i belive Stones
was part of a small chain dad also bought our first tv there
1954.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Apr-2013
Yes, I think Stones was also a small local chain too
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 5-Apr-2013
Just seen a photo (on another
Southall site) of HADRELLS - a shop on the corner of Herbert Road. The
photo is from 1956 but I don't recall this shop at all. Does anyone
else? I thought John Collier was on that corner - perhaps HADRELLS came
later.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2013
Hi Chris. Good to see you back on
the Site. I've missed you. I certainly remember Hadrells store. It was a
furniture store, and was a large store with huge glass windows on the
corner of Herbert road. I particularly remember it, as the Communists
used to hold their meetings there on a Saturday, and I loved listening
to them if I was up there, as they used to stand on a wooden box and
spout for ages. I didn't understand all of it, but it was quite interesting. By the way, where's the other Southall site? ... more >>
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2013
Thinking about it, I can't
remember what was on the other corner. Hadrells was on the side away
from Butlers, and then there was the other side going towards Butlers.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 5-Apr-2013
Lloyds Bank on the other corner
of Herbert Road. The other site is on Facebook - 'Are you an Old face
from Southall'. Some very good photos on there from way back when plus
lots of memories etc. Chris x
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2013
How strange. I've just downloaded
a picture of Lloyds bank on that corner (with "Buy Savings Bonds" on a
poster), with a Ladies Hairdressers next to it, and Clifford Evans next
to that. It could be MacFisheries next with a blind opened.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2013
Scotch Wool Shop was next door to the Arcade.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Apr-2013
Wasnt Platt bros. a small grocery chain i think they had a shop in King Street
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 5-Apr-2013
I worked as a delivery boy at
Tesco's in King Street. There was the good old fashioned bike with a big
metal basket at the front and a stand that fell down whenever you rode
over a bump. There was another Tesco store near the railway bridge in
the Crescent off Beaconsfield Road. I had to go there to fetch sides of
bacon when our man forget to order. Lodges in King Street was a
favourite haunt for Dinky
Toys and Meccano Parts. You could buy individual parts such as motors
or cog wheels. I have forgotten the name of the drapers shop on the
corner of King Street and Western Road but I remember the overhead cable
cash system. My father would never use Mullenger's fish shop in Western
Road. He had been upset by some remark made by the owner during war
rationing. Next to Mulleger was Hills Newsagent where I worked a a paper
delivery boy for awhile. By moving our own paper account from
Grossman's by the Scotsman Pub in Scotts Road I got a small bonus. The
local Co-op was across the road from the Scotsman. Opposite St John's
church in Church Avenue was a crumpet maker whose shop I visited with my
father. On Sundays a man would walk our street with a tray of crumpets
and a bell. Fowlers bakery in Western road had horse drawn delivery
carts and a stable behind their shops. My father would sometimes arrive
back from work with an instruction for me to take the barrow and shovel
to a nearby pile of "manure" that he had seen on his way home.This was
usually by courtesy of the baker's, milkman's or rag and bone man's
horse. Was Moss the camera shop in the Uxbridge Road part of a chain? It
is great to read other people's memories here. ... more >>
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2013
Was just looking through the
SOUTHALL book by Jonathan Oates and there is a very clear picture of
Lloyds Bank Limited there, with the Ladies Hairdressers to the left,
then Clifford Evans, then McFisheries, then Dolcis Fashion Shoes. (Had
to use my magnifying glass for them all except Clifford Evans which had
very large lettering over their very large store). Also a large photo of
Hadrells which it stated was the largest furniture store in Southall. ... more >>
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 5-Apr-2013
Bill your mention of Lodges and
buying Meccanno parts has reminded me of when I was about 13 in the
mid-60s I used to go to Lodges and the then owner would allow me to go
down in the basement where there was a cabinet full of spare parts and I
could buy any I wanted at half the list price, I think some of them had
been there years and he just wanted to dispose of them.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 5-Apr-2013
There used to be a Singer Sewing Machine shop somewhere between the George and Dragon and the White Hart
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Apr-2013
I still have 3 boys books
from the 1940 & an encyclopedia from the 1950s bought at
Lodges they all have there trade sticker inside the front
cover.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Apr-2013
There was also a Singer Sewing
Machine shop opposite Northcote Avenue. There was a Norwood Farm dairy
on the corner of Beechcroft Avenue and the Singer Sewing Machine shop
was next to it. Then, there was Franks the Greengrocers, Duval's the
cooked meat shop, Lewis's the sweet shop, the Westminster Bank, the ABC
and then Woolworths. The Labour Hall was somewhere along there, before
you got to Woolworths, probably next to the Bank. ... more >>
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 6-Apr-2013
There was also a Norwood Farm Dairy shop in King Street.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Apr-2013
Yes, well done! Platt's I'm
sure were grocers and I had completely forgotten them. Also there was
GAPP'S grocers in Ealing somewhere but they went early '50s
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Apr-2013
Spikin & Dents was another
Jewellers which has gone now. We bought my engagement ring from one of
their shops in Ealing in the early fifties.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Apr-2013
I was trying to work out the
sequence of shops from Butlers on the corner. I know Sainsbury's was
next door, but can't remember whereabouts the Maypole shop was. Was it
on the same side, or was it on the opposite side of the road near
Sanders the grocers on the corner of St George's Avenue and the Coop?
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Apr-2013
Let us not forget the ABC tea rooms with waitress service. My dad thought it was posh!
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 7-Apr-2013
ABC........think that was next to Woolworths or thereabouts.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Apr-2013
Dead right Chris-hope all is well with you all
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 7-Apr-2013
I worked at Strakers in Southall
Broadway from leaving school in 1956 for about 2 years then went to
Perry and Routleffe a stationers in Uxbridge.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 7-Apr-2013
Platts the grocers and Platts the
butchers were next door to each other in the King St(Kings
Confectioners and Lilly and Skinners were either side), opposite side of
the road to Devaneys and Home and Colonial, and Hardys electrical,and
the Radio Relay shop on the corner of Hammond road , supplied piped
radio to premises after the war, only three stations, Home service,
Light programme, and third programme
were possible.I dont think they were anything to do with Radio Rentals.
Have just viewed King St on Google Earth. It has made me very SAD.
Better take a pill. ... more >>
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Apr-2013
lovely 1950s photo..our
flickr50..page 11...looking west broadway from ever busy traffic
lights..h j butler and co.memswear..tailor huge lettering .with open
scissors high at curve corner...opposite curve corner lady marg.1920s
style curve glass.corner shop..along there we used the
newsagent....corner greenford ave..see...2 trolley buses.607..ladies
long knee coats .plad huge check coat..bikes.waistcoat..2
old black cars.couple small delivery vans..blowers dentist high
above..and 1940s photo lloyd bank.saving war bonds.photo.going along to
woolies....yes remeber abc by wooolies..busy bus stop along/everybody
used queue... ... more >>
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Apr-2013
penny..................chandler
rings a bell......duchess kate.....her gt gran southall....was edith
eliz chandler.married spencer clarence st after 1909.......and ..kates
gran..dot goldsmith harrison....worked jameswalker..southall..married
1953 holy trinity......she worked jewellers hounslow trained by her
jeweller neice.there..1970...because by 1970 they had moved to norwood
green........so may be
of your harold wentworth rd..your1937 new road they moved in perhaps
from southall green areas.......alice chandler goldsmith still lives uxb
age 101.kates grandad s sister... ... more >>
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Apr-2013
I wonder if anyone remembers
the antique weapons shop in Kings Street it was knocked down
to make way for Woolworths, sold suites of armour , old guns
& swords ect.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Apr-2013
The Newsagents and Tobacconist
just along by the buses was called the "Ideal". Len told us this when I
couldn't remember the name. I used to run up there to get my dad's few
ounces of Nosegay tobacco.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Apr-2013
Only a small point Yvonne, but
the photo of Lloyds Bank was going towards Butlers not towards Woolies. I
wish we did have a photo going from Hadrells the other way.
- Re: Old shops - multiples
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
ah yes..in approx memory of all
the different photos..probably...the one 1940s going towards
woolies..opposite the northcote ave..1940s pram.woman.going
east..........evans prams corner huge in photos corner..large..lloyds
bank corner.war save bonds photo...nice large clear photos.....over 3
yrs collection photos....flickr............through yrs shops....pity we
all did not have cameras to.go along..capture
nostalgia of images......plan sketch of row of shop names would be gt
at different yrs..post office directory..lists in order..at
library..shops yrs.
http://showmystreet.com/
seems more up to date street view now on line.
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
it is clearer easier.street
view..ub1 1sr..goes along south rd..into broadway..trees look
nice..sunny july aug.more recent...banks stay banks vaults special.but
asia now...google has several lloyds tsb..south rd broadway.king
st....greenford ave hsbc corner with lloyds opposite..was woolies now
99p shop.with nat west bank.by.....from our yr1900 photos..half
dozen.architecture buildings there 2013..butlers...emporium
ladymarg corner .3 horse shoes..so brick grand design..shell some still
there over 100yrs..seen history 2 wars etc...loads generations
kids...1912 theatre cinema.top northcote ave .kings hall.structures
there..looking over changes...street view.google.
http://showmystreet.com/
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
was able to ask tony.......this
newer st view ..nice easy use clear......funny peculiar..at northcote
ave...right east the old theatre,,think became snooker now asian
bank..black frontage fashion..on bakers corner west....BUT..no entry 2
signs......BUT car going into...and cars parked coming..up..out of...no
one way or anything....as we know...no dead end...curve at
pub..around...alleys..left east to .alexandra...........tony cant see.why..seems mistake no entry sign..ha....at broadway..... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Apr-2013
"The Show my street.com" is
absolutely marvellous. After finding my own house I had a quick look at
Northcote Avenue in Southall, and it still looks very tidy. Our old
house and the house next door have both concreted their gardens to
accommodate their cars. Two on next doors at present. My daughter and I
did all this on Google over Easter, but this is much faster. I'm not
going to explore too much of Southall though, as I want to keep my own memories! ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Apr-2013
Although there are many lovely
photos on our Southallboards, I have several favourite ones which I
value above all others. Number one is the photo of Southall Broadway in
the 1950's which we used so much, with Northcote Avenue just out of
sight on the left hand side. I admit that I wept when I first saw it as
it brought back so many memories. The next one is the one of our Town
Hall with the old canopy
on, and the 607 trolley bus and the Green Line bus, and the puddles on
the floor - amazing. The Greenford broadway one in 1938 showing all the
shops. I remember this view as I was working in Greenford aged 14, just
before the Western Avenue, and used to walk there during our lunchtime
(which was an hour and a half). The photo on Southallboard 50 on page 11
is also now one I will keep which takes in the view from the edge of
Lady Margaret road of all the shops etc. A really superb photo. I expect
everyone has their own favourites of the places they knew all those
years ago. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
tony has just said..yes seems 2012...new better st view
found the old one so fiddly...just been hour all down northcote
ave...yes fences...concrete front..porch..walls..alley..side
houses..etc..gt....grubhams..norman ave...82..76 74 all show....131 137
tree shows...clinic..along from 66.....118 council..row houses..west
side..window boxes flowers on deep window sil.....BUT WHY NO ENTRY AT
BROADWAY INTO NORTHCOTE
AVE...STRANGE..SIGNS....BAKERS HUGE BUILDING..TALL DEEP BACK...NO
FASHION ETC....PUB.SEEM TO BE WORKING ON..EAST SIDE ALLEY..MY COUSIN
SAID BLOCKED OFF MANY YRS NOW....TO ALEXANDRA.....HUMPS ALONG NORTHCOTE
AVE SLOW SPEED.......KEEP YOUR FAV..ON YOUR OWN.FOLDER IN CASE FLICKR
LOOSE ANY.....OVER 3 YRS DIGGING TO FIND...MANY ALL YRS....GOOD OF LEN
..BOARD2......RESPECT MEMORY... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
lynne......fantastic..dormers
lane allenby..school.....beehive there little sweet shop etc
opposite...2012 may june sunshine..think...hugejubilee union jacks
around pub...same 105 busstop..going to southall
broadway...bungalows..new entrance half done to new school there curve
goldy colour..building modern architecture.....allenby new
entrance,built on old sports back field huge crane there...old entrance
still open then....some posh ..pillared entrance villa dwellings
dormers lane white..long..frontages ...street view new one..much better
to use..google...old scouts hut..seems green tall hedges trees....lynne
estate bound to be there and mound..shops..prefabs now flats..fleming
faraday telford ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
several of us of golflinks est
also..so.new june 2012 street view ....our mounds green shops..there
telford faraday.....right east corner was sweets now meat...telford fish
chips...along long telford supermarket.large green lettering......west
left side wine...down dip walk under along wall,,so unusual..under at
wall....through to fleming ..dormers waye...prefabs long gone 1970..
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 9-Apr-2013
Thank you Pauline for pointing out showmystreet.com site it's wonderful much clearer than googlemaps.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Apr-2013
shops..40s
50s....flickr50.page3...hanwell broadway junction uxbridge rd..at
curve..sainsbury..with co op society..to left east..west seems
boots....traffic police long white sleeve cuffs....belisha beacon being
repaired..trolley wires..kids jackets caps hanwell..........dormers
rise..right side was prefabs..row terrace houses in street view new
.close ups clear..........many special favourites too
many to remember .photos collection.extensive hard searches.lucky
exsist.or find.....1950 rain.family crossing lady marg rd top....211
..607 trolley 2 old black cars.town hall..junction.. ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Apr-2013
Would love to see those old Hanwell photos, but cannot find.
How do I get Flikr 50 ??
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Apr-2013
hanwell on several of the 50
boards
also......www.flickr.com................southallboard50@yahoo.co.uk.............password
middlesex50......southallboard50 photostream.flickr.........pauline
,dilys..chris..fred..dennis..ron..and half dozen other members have
said...use it........over 3 yrs now...50 different boards
..collection....all yrs ...all local.areas..memories
interest..nostalgia...rare...special..hunted for ..lucky found..extensive searches.....ealing library would have hanwell pictures also.... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Apr-2013
Thank you Yvonne
I'll have some time tomorrow and will look then
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Apr-2013
Had a quick pop into
Showmystreet.com as I wanted to have a look at the Town Hall. It
certainly looked different, and the toilets had gone, but the Fire
Station seemed to be still there. I much preferred the old Town Hall
that I loved to see, but I suppose things must change over the years.
The Three Horseshoes was still there, and I passed what was the Odeon.
The Red Lion was still there, and what
I could see of Southall Park was there, but all the railings had gone
and a different type of fence was there with small trees which went all
along the edge of the park. Went as far as the Iron Bridge and saw how
the traffic system had changed, which we knew already. Got as far as the
high brick wall which once surrounded St Bernard's and decided I had
seen enough. This was a different Southall now, and I won't be returning
again. I'm afraid all the ghosts of the past still existed for me,
and I'm happy to leave them all there, and keep the memories I cherish
of our beloved Southall we all knew. ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Apr-2013
Pauline-I share your feelings
about cherished memories of Southall as it was. The considerable number
of entries on this site pays eloquent testimony to these feelings.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Apr-2013
couple days ago saw gazette on
line......photo of your police car turned over..couple mths
ago..chase...under iron bridge...on north side at pillar as footpath
rail goes along....clear photo of car turned over..traffic jam til taken
away midday crash..cleared by 4pm for rush hr....still turn at st
bernard arch entry..to go along was high brick wall of asylum...then
down windmill lane...but...inside...shop
..housing estate called osterley view..now..ealing hospital general
took over area..with over back..nearer towards 3 bridges a max secure
unit for mental crime persons....now....hansons still there think....yes
red lion..pk..holy trinity...they hold loads events in big
park..olympic torch along.hot day july..under iron bridge.1837 of brunel
gwr, ... more >>
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 13-Apr-2013
Pauline - Have just read your
message of 12th and identify with your feelings entirely. Time might
blur the edges of our memories but they are fond memories and mean so
much to all of us who grew up in Southall, not the 'foreign country' it
is today.
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by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 13-Apr-2013
Hi Janice I went back to Southall
just over a year ago with my hussband, it was the first time we'd been
back for over twenty years, and my goodness what a change. It was
heartbreaking to see everything that you'd known whilst growing up had
all but gone. There was nothing left really to remind you of a happy
childhood. How very sad.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Apr-2013
Ditto for me too
I used to LOVE Hanwell & Greenford. I remember Uxbridge still as a
market town until the early 1950s. I will never go back now
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 15-Apr-2013
Occasionally, on a summer Sunday
afternoon during the early 1950s, my parents would take us for a trip on
a Green Line bus to Uxbridge and we'd sit by the canal for hours with
our homemade fishing rods (my two brothers and I). Needless to say, we
never caught anything! After eating our picnic, we'd set off along the
towpath and walk for what seemed hours over fields, ending up in Denham
Village where we might
have a lemonade or an ice cream before catching the first bus that came
along back to Southall. Would it still be possible to do the same walk
today?
We also loved to spend other Sundays walking over the Links to Hanwell
Fields to fish for tiddlers and minnows - or riding a couple of buses to
Kew Gardens or, very occasionally, Hampton Court.
Simple pleasures - happy days - and costing only a few pence. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Apr-2013
On Sundays in summer mum
& dad would take use on the bus to Brentford & we
then took the river boat to Westminster pier the we had a walk
around the sites then got the boat & bus back to
Southall that would be 1949/50 good old days.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Apr-2013
Janice
There are no longer any "Green Lines", - a victim of "deregulation" of
bus services. Routes which run through different local authority areas
will never get any subsidies from any of them. Yes the 711 ran all the
way from High Wycombe to Reigate, and the 710 from Amersham to Crawley,
almost 60 miles, both along the Uxbridge Road
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Apr-2013
Janice, I used to go fishing with
dad in the canal at Uxbridge-we went on the 607Trolley Bus-during the
war years and after-wonder if our paths croaaed?? Sometimes we would
fish in the River Colne. The Frays river was, I believe,strictly
private fishing
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by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 15-Apr-2013
Remember going to hampton court
at easter would meet up with lots of family about twenty of us took jam
sanwiches flasks of tea paddled in river then went into the park at
Hampton court played cricket & rounders then qued for hours to get
bus back to Hanwell Broadway then catch trolly bus back to Southall
Odeon & walk home via Avenue Rd over Railway footbridge along
passage up to Osterley Park Rd.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Apr-2013
The Green Line coaches
They used to run along the Uxbridge Road regularly and we all remember
them. But then they disappeared and I don't think we really noticed
that they'd stopped. I am told it is now over 40 years since a 709,710
or 711, or any of those coaches ran along the Uxbridge Road
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by Lesley Stanhope nee Green (Member 10290663) on 31-Dec-2013
Phillips the grocers had a shop on Allenby Road as well. I remember it from the 50's.
Chairs for the elderly to sit on whilst waiting to be served.The cashier lady at the end of the shop watching everything .
Having all the products cut weighed and individually wrapped.
Allenby Road shops not sure if I got them all and in correct order.
Starting at top of Sunnycroft/Allenby junction.
Sweet shop,wool
shop,butcher,toyshop,dry cleaners,hardware store and flower
shop,greengrocers bakers,Phillip's,fourbuoys sweetshop. co-op still know
our divi number!!!
crossMornington road to post office chemist and a few others to the Lord Allenby at far end.
So far that's it but I know there are loads I've missed.
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Eastertide
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 31-Mar-2013
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Here's wishing you all a very Happy Easter.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Mar-2013
and to you mike and
everybody....we used to have easter eggs from woolworths
southall...little sugar flowers on milk choc eggs...new pope speaking at
rome balcony..new archbishop canterbury....queen philip..lovely
photos.saphire blue..maundy money 87..and spring flower posies..oxford
cathedral..for 1st time since charles 1st..1643
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Apr-2013
..tide...late old
english...eastertide..week.....50 days easter to whitsun...lets hope
warmer bank hols then..ha...boat race good..took side navy blue..since
..1958 west ave southall.....new black white tv...others.in living room
at home. backed.nice colour they said cambridge.....great finish at
chiswick bridge.....pinch punch 1st month..lets hope no.problems fools
day to midday only..
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Has anyone else having problems with 'more'
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Mar-2013
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Since switching on todsy I am finding that I can't read all the script
as 'more' doesn't move when I click on it. Has anyone else had problems,
or is this something peculiat to me?
- Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more'
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2013
it works now...hope ok with you also
- Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more'
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Mar-2013
No, Yvonne, mine still doesn't work!
- Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more'
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2013
still wks ok..you clicked new
thread was ok...so ..not your mouse click....my poor old computer..takes
while warm up...1st thing..not want to click...etc.....mouse kurser
wont go sometimes..keys sometimes..stick..or such like...tony says..good
clean help..unscrew back and special stuff ..when get round to
it...ha...worn out had very good use.but will try clean inside..when get
chance........
- Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more'
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Mar-2013
It's still not working although I have contacted Southall Knowhere.
- Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more'
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Mar-2013
I've just tested for me Pauline & it works same as usual.
- Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more'
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Mar-2013
By the way, I saw a programme the
other day mentioning Mock Turtle Soup (Mum often bought it) and I've
found it's made from "calf's head, veal, or other meat and spiced to
taste like green turtle soup"
Though I doubt we'll ever know what real Green Turtle soup ever tasted like.
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by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 22-Mar-2013
Please tell me what is 'more' i have never heard of it!! Am I stupid??
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Mar-2013
Ordinarily I would say less is
more but in this case when someone has put quite a lot of text in a
reply you read so much & then you see the word More (in blue )and
then you click on it to read the rest of whatever the person is saying.
I hope this helps.
And that you had to click More to read this.
Best regards,
... more >>
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by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 22-Mar-2013
Thanks Fred, now I see what you mean, so obvious really lol. Jean
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
you 2 australians during the
night..ha.....hope pauline ok today with more......last day of the
precious wonderful tv centre bbc ..today....white city tube station
shepherds bush.....1960 built..2 of us went there from dormers wells
school to work 1966.....wonderful studios..circle
corridors..club....make up rooms showers..fantastic programmes..always
foreigners..being taken round to copy..get ideas..new
tv....b/w went to colour..landing on moon..we had monitors.....gone to
manchester..NOW..architecture QUESTION MARK DESIGN.old building
refurbish into hotel.and big studio one.huge...being kept..may be big tv
show done there..loads seats audience..met all celebrities in
lift..entrance foyer etc..was dog track..huge exhibition place and
olymics..way back 1908..years.the area..sad on bbc 3 digital tonight
farewell party story etc......back blue peter garden to park..and
shepherds bush mkt lunchtimes...huge scenery block artist painters gt dr
who .z cars sets..etc etc ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2013
Thank you for your help folks,
but I think sosmething's gone wrong somewhere. This has all happened
since I kept getting lots of updates It's knocked the clock and calendar
out which is usually quite easy to get back, but the history's gone, so
instead of just tapping in's' for Southall Knowhere and it all comes
up, there's nothing now. The worst though is not being able to read all
the text by clicking on 'more'. It's only small things and it might correct itself. Grandson's tried, but nothing's happening. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
will ask tony...if he can think
over weekend..knocked out clock .sounds interesting...good luck...bbc 4
tonight freeview 9..will be good...bbc tv..london..£200million
sold..keeping huge sudio one...for special..tv use...going to be flats
hotel cinema..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
top page here.....says update
account...email...updates..logout...add yours...email alerts.....have
never clicked any of these.....seems something..to do with
your..comment...
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Mar-2013
Hi Pauline you could have a
popup blocker they sometimes come with updates i have one
cant find it to get rid of it
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2013
Thank you Denis. I've just seen this on my computer but don't know whether it will help.
How to Get Rid of Pop-Ups on a Computer | Tech Tips - Salon.com
Eliminate Internet Explorer pop-ups by opening the browser and clicking
"Tools," then "Pop-up Blocker." Click the "Turn On Pop-up Blocker"
option.
I'm not trying this until my family might help.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Mar-2013
I tried internet explorer it did no good atall still got the pop up.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
pauline.......just tried last 2
days ..mauvine...because easy when unusual name...but stevens
burke..common........barry .kay..anne.....got to think..mauvine middle
name....because find past..ancestry..no records .strange.....tick spell
diff.....but today.saw burt..saw stephens..and it all came up
quick....free in google you can see...mauvine stephens born 1931.st
pancras reg area.london..many came
to southall from there....married .stephens to kenneth gordon e
burt.1954 ealing reg....ken died eal reg 2000..the only .ken george e
burt..born chelsea london.1927 ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
anne e stephens.born 1948 uxb
reg...the other anne j stevens 1949.uxb...barry d.s. stephens born 1935
uxb reg..kay o stephens born 1938 uxb reg...so dear mauvine.passed 2006
reg ealing.burt...the marriages siblings.deaths would be free in google
find past...mauvine stays local.she would know southall to 2006...dear
lady..if anne.e.stephens.born 1948. doing family tree to tell you more..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
dear pauline...192 in
google..dear mauvine was greenford...2002 /3....probably before
also....len would have been able to give you address..his policeman
son..got 192 free...links to tel number and address years.....ub6
postcode...tony me lived greenford 14yrs
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
192 scroll down says others at
same hse..different yrs..seems 2008...bonnie l charles and richard
charles....dont suppose her daughter....passing reg ealing..could be
ealing..hospital..new big one uxbridge rd.by viaduct...mine used that
hospital..so did len....
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
under the more..is..marriage
mauvine stephens to ken george e burt .eal reg.1954..ken passed 2000.eal
reg..the only ken g.e..burt born..chelsea lodon.yr1927..tel address
elect role.in google.192..n burt .stanhope rd greenford ub6.6 other burt
local ruislip west eal..hayes.ken burt 2002/4 st paul rd
staines.mauvine 1859 onwards was by canal black hse pub greenford
perkins mauve dye invented.amaze.gt invention.plaque there.factory.litten pub became old peoples home oldfield lane.2003 mauvine alone at 192. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2013
Thank you Yvone. That definitely
sounds like the Stephens family. Mauvine would have been the same birth
date as me and Barry would be next and then Kay. I can't remember Anne
being born, but I know there was another little girl after Kay, as
Janice mentioned, as she lived opposite them at one time in Northcote
Avenue. So Mauvine has died then. I thought she had - just a feeling. I
can still see her with
her lovely dark hair and blue eyes. She came from Irish stock and was a
very pretty girl. She kept my spirits up while my mum was away. Just
seen your mention of Kenny Burt. That was him - sad he's gone as well.
That was his second marriage to Mauvine. Can't read everythng at the
moment when it gets to 'More'. Will have to get it sorted. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
now....aide in london...gt..has
been yorkshire..4pm..tv....she is in your heart wonderful...anne big
10yr gap..often lady inlater life falls..her marriage 192..feel sure
anne still with us.....gt to see fish meat mkt bow bells.church cockney
slang he says gt... london..have been to them all..love london...tv now
itv.....we went on new tube that queen kate on yesterday...walk whole
length...gt inside new trains.....baby on board badge...ha gt ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
the only one on marriage find
past is ..anne..e .stephens..marr 1967..age 19..harrow.reg area..her mum
greenford..so near.....aide thames grey mullet cooked.cockney
fishmonger 13 kids...aide 26 yrs marr 3 kids..yorkshireman..hot cross
buns london capital of it yr 1900s....cross ward off evil..lucky
charm..annual ceremony london..tv now..ha...hap easter all.....
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by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 22-Mar-2013
Pauline,
It may be that Javascript has been disabled in your web browser assuming you are using Internet Explorer try the following:
1.Open Internet Explorer.
2.On the Tools menu, click Internet Options.
3.On the Security tab, click Internet.
4.Click Custom Level.
5.Scroll down to Active scripting.
6.Click Enable
7.Click OK.
8.Click Yes.
9.Click OK.
... more >>
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by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 22-Mar-2013
Just realised you won't be able to display full instructions, instead copy and paste this link
http://www.mistered.us/tips/javascript/browsers.shtml
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by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 22-Mar-2013
No problem with MORE in Australia.
During my midnight web search I came on Francis Firth Web pages.Yvonne is there and Pam MacCloy.
I would like to contact Pam but if it is like the past efforts to contact people the E mail address has changed and not updated.
I do not know if Knowhere has a change of address available for us?
Happy Easter Every One.
Ron
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
happy easter..ron...and
everybody.....yes think...I contacted pam......frith site is
lovely....nice people gt memories....southall heston.greenford..ealing
etc...click on her email there...frith reply to you with her
reply......you can then do reply back...what do you mean..change address
knowhere....let us know...is everything ok with you..and site
etc...good wishes to the family...
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2013
Thank you Colin and everybody for
your help. When I see my family I will let them try and sort this out
via your instructios. It's a bit too technical for me in my eighties!
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by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 23-Mar-2013
All is right here Yvonne.
If I for some reason have to change my address how do I let Knowhere have my new address.
I should think that many of our friends have picked up contacts only to
find that due to time the address has been changed but not registered.
It has happened several times to me.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2013
pauline...............they seem
to stay local...over yrs...the only marriage .barry .d. stephens..is
hillingdon.registered.1965...and only one for kay.stephens marriage
seems harrow reg area..like anne.e.stephens. marriage harrow area.1967
.with sister mauvine.living.seems greenford...2002..2006...so they all
would have seen the changes of southall...if they ever did nostalgia
visits to northcote ave
spikes bridge .like we have all done.......the parents christian names
put in free index in google find my past...will say when they
passed...where..probably local... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2013
ron......tony..says...knowhere
.is just log in....so does not matter..we think that if you have changed
your email address......keep using reply log in the same.........if
your old email address not closed down yet....set up automatic
forward.....that will send for yrs to come...any old incoming to old
email...to your new email......let us know if..can help..more..best
wish...snow here ha,,,,
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2013
pauline.....colin...tony just
done intructions..browser..active scripting enable...he
realises..colin...thanks...gson..pauline...might get more back for
you......hope so....we can always type..under more stuff for you...to
read
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Mar-2013
COLIN - we have checked the link,
and the Active Script is already enabled. Downloads are taking ages but
we have downloaded CCleaner and have run it successfully. However,
nothing has changed, but my daughter assures me that it will just take a
little time to resolve it. Thank you so much for your help.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Mar-2013
YVONNE - thank you for all the
research you have done on my behalf to find the Stevens family, and to
learn that my dear friend Mauvine has died. I would never have found all
this out on my own. Yes, you're right the family would have noticed a
great change in Northcote Avenue. On our Southallboard I noticed there
was a wooden fence around their old terraced house. I don't think it
enhances the place. I'm
just glad I went there in 2000 with my brother to see it for the last
time, and Northcote Avenue then looked quite clean and tidy, plus the
trees were all still there in the pavements further up the road near the
old sweet shop Denbighs where the lovely old Welsh couple used to
serve you. Happy days. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
lovely....if we had all been on
computer yr 2000..you could have found her 192 and met up to visit
together..her local..trees yes often still pavements grown bigger..let
us know if under more..we can type it for you
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
barry david stephens passed 2006
registered hillingdon..could be hillingdon hospital.borough with
its.registrar at uxbridge.192 electoral role tel.2002 to 6.uxbridge.let
us know christian names parents stephens..so pleased helped.best wishes
gdad daughter.kay anne need married surname.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
meant gson....find past free
index google..3 pages stephens 50 on each st pancras london.1911.as is
usual.mauv born 1931.her parents..but they probably moved in area.burt
job.might be hoover her living greenford.barry local job.so they stayed
local.look after parents.mrsstephens might aunt called her.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
marriages st pancras
1929.stephens.winifred.joseph.eleanor.alice..1930.walter.tom.leslie.1931
sarah.1932 several also..we had some st pancras move southall.canal
rail.jobs new town factories grow southall.cleaner air west.edwardian
farm ruth historian tv.£12 yr servant scivvy.my nan like others had to
go leave room in bed for other kids.burden on parent.all long hrs hard
work.only couple hr off.chelsea.then back home marry 6 kids worked ticklers southall.. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Mar-2013
So, Barry Stephens has also died
the same year as Mauvine. I think Mauvine's mother was called Mary by
her sister. Anyway Yvonne I don't need to know anymore now that
Mauvine's at rest. My daughter is taking my computer to her house to see
if she can sort my problem out, as I'm missing all the text on Southall
Knowhere.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
good luck..your computer...just
written off to pioneer corp..of david john willans..for more
info...southampton to dday..repair set causeway for vehicles..under fire
.severe bad seas..cain.lay roads repair rail..if injury shell sock he
sent home before 28 dec 1944 died buffers southall station.photos hortus
in google.age 22.corps stone..briefly married girl daisy from
cambridge.she widow married sid his brother went devon 3 kids jehovanah witness active ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
just got reply in 10 mins
from..corp......david northcote ave ..enlisted age 17.royal artillery
hounslow barracks..did searchlights.....age 21 moved to pioneer corp.18
nov 1943...june 44 dday.born 14 feb 1922..emma had feb babies..ha..my
uncle feb 2..of hers she had 11 or so kids....david died dec 28
1944..xmas time buffers..came home..what autumn..time 1944..bunting
northcote ave
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Mar-2013
HOORAY. Couldn't get any
downloads using Internet Exployer or Google so eventually downloaded
Mozilla Firefox, and all okay. Thanks to my daughter!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
well done..gt daughter..your
local northcote ave etc.lads going off uniform..david age 17 went 1st
sept.1939.hounslow..artillery searchlights...his brother sid army
uniform..across rd....sid married widow david wife..we knew them.sid
lived longest 2004 devon..rest all gone now..11kids emma..more 3 died
babies...her babies born clarence st..spencer st and south ave
gardens..done all their tree today.inlaws
to us.......lots photos..on ancestry..emma..hubby
george..sid..charles..emma 90 passed windsor we went to see
her...annie.her sister on bike..hayes .photo there..free site in
google..1961 hubby george passed.emma not till 1984..gladys fred
bunce.son malcolm.records there.bunce of northcote ave..went
windsor..son marriage....reunite 6 family there have done trees.....born
southall and uxbridge top of tree....ha they found photo our .my
john..in emma drawer calling it david.of 1922...no it is .our .my
john..of 1936 age 2 at studio my aunt .took .gave to gran
emma...ha...they find get photos wrong..when clear drawers.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Mar-2013
mr baylis..of dormers
school..with his clockwork radio...on tv this afternoon..cats eye also
good invention.etc etc.patent is good...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Mar-2013
they were going to close
temperate hse...kew gdns..australia newz......because deter state...but
now got lottery heritage money.....to refurbish..will take 5yrs
reopen..2018..multimillion£..dept environment gov...and private
donation.......gt...love...kew..palm..hse has been done..gt banana
plants etc..famous rare..plant rare bloom.times..huge smell..65 bus so
many yrs to kew..and on district linee
tube train....yr 1700s famous botanical..scientific interest famous kew
gdns..gt picnic..squirrels...spring flowers..tree blossom..had
fantastic famous.henry moore huge sculptures...etc etc ... more >>
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by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 29-Mar-2013
loved kew too many days out there been lucky enough to travel seen some of the plants there in their natural habitat
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Mar-2013
Kew Gdns used to be just one old penny to get in right up until the mid 1960s. . How much to get in now?
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Mar-2013
yes collection kew ..many rare
examples...scientists work..great gardeners....new refurbish...royal
georgian palace now.......princess diana house orchids
etc.....cactus...circular round .glass house of giant lily pad.baby sits
on it in photo..ha...yes lynne ...dad worked heathrow so was lucky
cheap travel...did round world ticket...the fiji..australian plants at
kew..saw.on travels...gt.......bamboo.used
to feed the pandas london zoo...but edinburgh has pair now trying to
bred........yes like most places..staff run..gt day out costs few
pounds.now entry..loads there..pergoda.etc..lots photos film..in
google.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Mar-2013
google has ...around up to 1971
decimalisation years...3 old pence..thnk said free under
17.......2006..£12,,,2008 £13...2012 £15.2013 £16..but £14seniors
reduced price....loads there now..people go several times yr to try see
all...lovely palace audio visual etc.perfectly.refurbished.........gt
shop..greenhouses..flower beds..150yrs old.temperate hse.£34m.renew.take
5yrs...yr1700s onwards collection...trees etc...eden project down cornwall eco..domes..is gt..plants...... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Mar-2013
That's it
1d up to the mid 60s, then 3d pre-decimalisation, but now £16 normally
but £14 for pensioners. £16 is an increase of 1,280 times 3d
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Mar-2013
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When I key into this site, it goes straight to the page starting with
entry 180!! How do i get back to opening on to page ! Any ideas folks???
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Mar-2013
It has just righted itelf?????
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2013
mike.........oates book full of
photos and info.....southall.....page of your....north rd.school..early
yrs....girls sewing lesson..with sewing machine....class 8....mixed
infants juniors...jesse payne head....demolish part of the old
building.to build new part..150yrs.they had celebration...1850.stone
date on part of old section...midwife of 1950s..filming new series this
yr..chummy to be in it..she
survived.birth.huge blood transfusion surgery new nhs.....family tree
work..southall green.norw green cranford lane northhyde..births in old
labourers dwellings,,,mums and kids buried church books...hard
times...queen tv.sunday..balmoral.its good to be queen cushion.one day
off only post red box etc.is.xmas day..year in life.filming..1st pope
outside europe..parents italian.he of argentina...76.of the poor.lets
hope.good input africa etc...oates southall book..2 other photos 1940s
butlers.tailors lettering.full shop windows.each pages 2 large photos ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Mar-2013
Yvonne-can you please let me have Mt Oates full name, and the title of the book.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2013
it has been going
many.yrs.......well known..some members have it...has town hall on
cover..pbk........£14..reprint .bits added 2012.....dr jonathan
oates....librarian ealing local history library..over
30yrs.......published..1990s.or so....southall.....part of images
series.......photos of cover on our flickr board......in google it is
there....he has published about 12 books over yrs...amazon..etc
in google...and his publisher......he sells it at ealing library
also.....all years.it covers..2 photos each page......called
southall...with town hall on cover..............isbn is in google..... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Mar-2013
JONATHAN OATES Southall book is:
IMAGES OF ENGLAND SOUTHALL
ISBN O 7524 2268 5
LARGE PICTURE OF SOUTHALL TOWN HALL ON THE FRONT
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2013
lovely thanks......nice info
..our headmaster...north rd..1911 head retired..wilson..jesse payne took
over..born 1776..kennel hill bedfordshire shambrook//age 5 1881.his mum
annie widow taken over the business of shoeing smith...7 kids..1901
jesse southall green..lodging.age 24....1911 living southall age
34...then takes over headmaster...good man..1876 jesse.emigrates sydney
australia..age.83ish.1960.........year
1880 start of lady marg rd..that older top bit...webber southall farm
north rd..sparrow farm...rouse had white hart pub..lodging there william
steptoe.general labourer..born kennington lambeth...libraries have copy
oates book..2nd hand on ebay..and his new edition..bits added sale now
2012...amazon on computer on line...wh smith often sell local
books...... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2013
woops 1876..of
course..born.....have been doing 3 wks of 1700s...ha..never thought go
back family tree ...but pain payne to my wingrove norwood green
1801....found.1700s pain..was easier....local...nice to trace 1744 birth
top tree.....they moved..fields farms dwellings..locally....church
books...images of pages churches we are lucky..my goodness still
there.....london archive office we handled church books..1970s...till later..filmed on line etc..so no longer allowed to..... ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Mar-2013
Thanks folks-I have since been reminded that I actually have a copy, which I have since found.Apologies!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2013
page with girls class
8.....sewing machines....looks like 1920 or so..mr payne headmaster...mr
meads southall book....says meads was there age9..1915yrs...with mr
payne and head gave him the cane as..custom..with several pupils...john
king gazette newspaper and printing was high st office...so camera man
was near to go down the rd to north rd school...for item photos...mr
meads covers 1st and 2nd wars..3yrs
mr meads says it took him to write book 1900s to 1982 his death
approx..yrs.......southall.with photos.......good that ealing broadway
library still have lots photos. ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Mar-2013
Mt Payne was the headmaster of
North Road when I started there at the beginning of 1933. He was a
widower, and csused a lot of gossip when he married Miss Mills. a
teacher some decades younger than him.She was an art teacher, and tried
her best to improve my artwork. I was(and still am) hopeless at art)
He retired a few years later, and was replaced by Mr Woodley-another story.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2013
that all adds to
photo...thanks...born 1876 village near bedford...so 60 1936.later..due
retire.....1901 he is lodging southall green could be junior teacher
there.age 24...then 1911 .34yrs old....mr meads 1915 has him as
headmaster north rd,,,primary,,,1933...still there with you......20 more
yrs..head at north rd.....photos of when was newer part of school built
on front at meadow rd.....they had
demolished very old part 1850 part of old school...2 good ytube films
of 2003 dormers seniors..on ferry to .france then..paris.teacher she
films.them at eiffel tower arc triumph.place concorde.etc...male teacher
on ferry .sir let us know 30 mins before so we go down..disembark..they
age 14 enjoying..leaning rails..sea..etc...spitfire 14th march 2013
again..regular visits.northolt airport.for vip ..vets of pilots..polish
etc..day at runway.hanger..then..10 times around acrobatics...then 5.30
pm fly off home to lincs.. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Mar-2013
I started at North Rd.
school in 1954 to 1956 then went to Dormers, our classrooms
where in the old wooden huts in the school playground which i
see have now gone.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2013
still got the 1850 stone carved
date on one bit of old building there....jesse payne head..widower...his
mum was widow in her 30s as well.....jesse age 5..sister helen age
3..18881 bedford......oldest age 14...7 kids..lodger..smithy
apprentice....annie the mum..carries on blacksmith business....other
payne local.....one ag labourer......another publican..another
baker...looks like...dorothy .e.mills
married...jesse payne brentford registry ofice 1938........looks
like..he 1st married..brentf reg....1908 jesse and also there 1915
jesse..marriage......registered... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2013
meads says...north rd sch..28 set
1940 bomb so shut for 6wks.....tudor rd sch.bu shelter bomb blast..so
shut 6 mths..15 oct........viaduct target but 2 near misses .one landed
golf links..one bmb uxbridge rd......aec target but miss hit laundry
asylum.and green drive by park....photo german.map of area for pilot..on
our flickr board......my cousin gdad publican old north star..by canal
bridge..bottom
regina..1913 he and 4 publican bros killed 1st war..son worked career
draughtsman aec....so pub closed may29 1940..as new one opened nearer to
norw green..says police box western rd and scout hut.... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Mar-2013
I just loved R.J. Mead's book
"Growing up with Southall" and marvelled at how industrious the children
were to earn extra money, and having to daily take breakfast and lunch
to their father working in Southall. When his granny died after a short
illness in 1912 (around the time when the Titanic had just gone down),
his mother then had to wash and cook for her father and five brothers,
as well as her own family and children.
No washing machines in those days or tumble dryers! For Michael Braden
to have Mr Payne as headmaster when he was at North road school and R.J.
Mead's at 9 having the same headmaster makes it all the more wonderful
to read. This is a book I could read over and over again as it captures
life so vividly as it was then.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Mar-2013
yes gt that mike had same
headmaster....births deaths..says his wife died 1937 and mr payne
married the art teacher next yr....basic of everything..going back..mr
meads and family time...my aunt born 1912 /1914 yrs.her brother..at 14
payed less at factory.southall..to nan...so..annoyed oldest sister had
to look after 6 kids...then nan came home..cooked dinner for
6pm.....born over at canal...she and
brother.before school..work jobs..for .men there..before school...coal
depot..fish barrow...etc...she said they did ..washing down..or labour
jobs for pence to help their mum....low wage long hrs those days..pence
helped at home....small old dwellings many squeezed labourer lodger in
to help pay rent.....aunt would hear the old women talk..help each other
birthing..look after neighbour kids if .adults went to funeral..my aunt
had black coat cut down for her to go .her nan funeral...generation
before..northhyde norwood green..husbands died 54 yrs old and
before..often 4 kids still left at home...sense to remarry..survive..not
end up dreaded workhouse..featherstone was workhouse lane...nan and
cousins worked farm.1st war..neighbour minded kids..uncle george born
month of titanic.yr..dont think poor nan knew...hubby might here of
newspaper at pub.oak tree canal..bits of news chatter there..like most
1st baby died..kids decades named in love after their..fathers.mums
..husbands..middle name to help..baptisms..church them hope to protect
infections etc.3 yrs work..lady typed it for him.well done mr
meads..southall memory.similar to many.. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Mar-2013
Yes, my daughter and I have been
researching on the 1911 Census recently. She doing the actual work of
finding the Census. My paternal grandmother had 12 children, but lost
two as babies under a year old. This was news to us, but we still felt
quite sad, as they had been christened. What amazed me most was that in
the Census there were 10 of them all living in the one house in 4
rooms. Several were in their twenties! I don't know whether one of them was a kitchen or a living room. The mind boggles. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Mar-2013
And they think times are bad today.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2013
yes have been doing censuses etc 3
yrs now...love to hear daughters news....1911 ist one to put number
rooms....image pages...how long married..number dead children...for gov
..work out how proceed with poor etc..but 1914 war cannon fodder...but
extremem gratitude.for ever..kept hun at bay...1970 used heston church
books..london....burials bapt marr....vicar tried hard..babies etc put
in with other graves
that week..labourers no money...gov kept their hard long hrs low wage
generations..gdad 1920s socialism and union..slow gradual improve wage
life.....1911 sign of husband often helps locate where terraces were
southall..he put the localusuage of the area as his
address.gt..help..many x.not read write..work..not sch.slow.increase in
workers..improve sch chances... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2013
rural hamlet southall..fields
norw green hayes northolt....age 13 if lucky some
school..girls...servant ..hated by most get married age 18...many up
duff...rural folk..families..saw to it marriage..kids every 2 yrs...many
most 9 plus kids.....my norwood green 12....and the only one that went
usa 1870..had 12..coalmines..virginia..nice in touch now..loads tree
passed.............12 kids named of family..and
generations..the king queen name..solid local names repeated.known
forever....1900 to 1930s..still local..labourers cottages..all kids one
bed top tail..boys girls.....we have mum died childbirth..so mum dad
died fell off hse working..3 kids dead left..3kids in 1895...so sister
took them with her brood...only 2 survived...one died 1st war....but nan
loved aunt cousins forever.named 1st baby who died after her uncle
bill.....often one up one down...scullery black range fire in one room
living...other room slept..went in it once 1970.....still there
today...often back row...back to backs..cheaper bricks workers
dwellings....my aunt only had 1 child 1936.said never wanted life of her
mum and old ladies she knew..meads families came from..yeading
northolt..as many did..brickfields farms..ruislip school log book..1800s
1900....kids before school...woods got acorns for pigs..pence to
help..mum out...harvest worked fields age 8 onwards..teachers
wrote..kids not in today...bad weather no shoes..kids not in
today....just balance of mind to know today and families is
essential..gratitude..workhse fear to 1930..of fallen bad luck hard
times..but died in there...medicine science..broad mind.is great..have
couple bapt vicar comes to dwelling..get them churched might
help..survive.if.bad birthing.so norwood green our one done twice .month
later survived and on same page bapt again in church.....coming across
from..hayes ruislip...got..1744 bapt our top tree.....1801.marriage
hayes..bapts .kids norw green 1802....1841 he gets canal
brentford..chiswick apprentice.master .barge ships london docks..2
pubs..comes home die..leaves fortune..couple ours inhereted.so some
probate starts to come in mkt gardeners..shops....rest stay to
1900s...labourers..etc..nan had us all bapt holy trinity southall..to
1960....weddings there...1844 hayes..one illegit vicar has to .put large
under name.was custom.but .mum..marries next yr...blokes tried
to.escape.well known.had its own dock.passingham..farm by canal
200yrs...she was servant to age 18..and then..more..so at her with man
children ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2013
in wikiped and find past....says
1921.census..place of work..interesting..june.....1931 census destroyed
fire war...1941 no census....so gt.give family..your addresses..etc
etc..word mouth..tape recording..so valuable......1951 house
ameneties....so good ..bathrooms..etc....not old .back slung tin bath
brought in....outside carse....we had one hung himself there..1906..4
kids..young .low wage poor..seasonal
wk..buried heston church she remarried had 4 more died age 95ish..nice
.lady....our illegit one bapt 1824 hayes.vicar writes as was
custom........1841 .1851 census gets servantjob at well known passingham
farm dock canal.northhyde...has man..4 kids..but not allowed marry..he
also servant field work...loose job...so..after 5kids marry heston
church then 5 more kids.bapt...elderly they.die 1900 ...1913
heston..most ours buried....1801 census..mainly head count 1831 some
names put..ealing.ruislip..have their early census..rare.......... ... more >>
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 17-Mar-2013
Pauline - I've been researching
family history for some years now and was especially interested in the
1911 Census because it gives so much extra information. Like you, I've
been amazed at the size of families living in just a couple of rooms but
it would literally be just a couple of rooms. The lavatory would
probably have been shared by many others as would the water spout.
Terrible conditions in
terrible times. One of my father's siblings died aged only three with TB
and Meningites who I didn't know about until the 1911 Census gave up
the secret. I've also found that very sick babies were
baptised/christened (and sometimes not even given a name) because they
weren't expected to live.
My grandmother often had to ask for Parish Relief and was once told she
couldn't have any money because "You have a chair haven't you? Well sell
it." When my grandfather was found unconscious and taken to Hammersmith
Hospital, grandmother had to borrow 2d (tuppence) to get from South
Ealing to Hammersmith to identify him but this only took her one way.
She walked back to South Ealing whilst heavily pregnant, gave birth six
weeks later by which time she was a widow.
The Good Old Days - don't you believe it! ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Mar-2013
Yes, they must have been terribly
hard times Janice. One thing I always foud rather sad was that one of
my aunts stayed with my grandmother until she died, and consequently
didn't get married. She ended up taking in young doctors as lodgers. She
did say once that she had learnt more about life since they lived at
her place! Another one married late in life and consequently didn't have
any children, although
had a very good marriage. Another two didn't get married. One was badly
burnt as a child when her nightie caught fire, and the other one joined
the 1914-18 army. I often wondered if they were put off getting married
after the struggle in their younger lives. I always regret that I didn't
live closer to my grandmother as she lived in Kensington, and in those
days didn't get to see her very often. We were all so busy living our
own lives with my mother being ill a lot of the time with TB and being
split up sometimes. I expect there were a lot of Southall people having a
lot worse times during the war. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2013
must be nearly every family ..way
back..to tell hard times...never heard of the deaths until saw in the
church books in london...they buried the grief ..need to..strive
on...one of the sons often stayed bechelor to help his widow mum...yr
1900 and to yr 1940 knew it..local heston northhyde....1930s councils
coming in slowly slowly..but decades to try house people better...from
old labourers working
peoples dwellings..rented..so many families had struggled in them before
them..nan was only in her norwood green one yr..had to get our
cockroaches....our cousins swindon..new town.new houses married holy
trinity southall 1950s...tried old southall other side..rent
place..brought insects to my nan..what are theses walls bed.....oh
bedbugs..get out...they got job house all in swindon..never came
back.....to 1960 though from 1800s...all lived near each other....not
move far....rural..with factory as changes local.....nans own birth
family wiped out measles...tb..mum died 5th child age 29..west ealing
her dad died fell off house plasterer..broken back west mid hosp...but
aunt .squeezed 3 kids survive...bed with her brood...only my nan her
brother.got left though other died 1st war...certificates tell more and
census....all at factories ..1940s on...gave nan some comfort and luxury
at last...but bad poverty her kids lived to 87..even though they
smoked................stew..outdoor life etc..active hard workers..beer
pub... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Mar-2013
After the 1914-18 war so many
young men were lost that many thousands of young women knew at an early
age that their chances of marriage were slim. That is why in the
'30s/-50s, there were so many references to "Maiden aunts", and why even
as late as the early 50's so many single women were schoolteachers.
The children at the school became the only children they ever knew.
Even at Cuckoo Infants
(Which was re-named Brentside infants in the 50's as many people didn't
know the real name of "Cuckoo Hill, Hanwell), in the early 50's nearly
all the teachers were "Miss ............." because they had never
married as there were insufficient men surviving from their generation ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Mar-2013
yes..sad ..of 1st war..so many
men lost..teachers etc..my english teacher librarian...born
1910/1917......hard for ..1st females get university......she
did..married before 2nd war..3 kids get born..but he goes to war..she
kept his carpet firm managed and run...he came back..she continuing
teaching career....girls school..many of ours old spinsters...head
teacher..came from..by st davids far ..west
wales..like ..several professions....they could not get married and
further career to top...she gave ..cv..uni..etc...to..councils..ealing
etc...to ..get her headship...but spinster....wanted..many yrs was
so....norwood green had gt small school charity..1786.biscoe of southall
for poor kids...canal brickies ag lab etc......1802 mine were
there..generations...some benefit.....1900s..pupil teachers...helped
out....our crowd 1st war heston northyde southall green....working class
labourers...some lost husbands war...kids at home...rent to
pay...survive practical..they married again..less available but they
did..so avoid workhouse......2 mates in 1st war trench...he died...mate
came home and married his widow...and more children born..lovely cousin
joan gave me photos ..nice family...my southall cousin.2 kids she lost
her hubby 1918 war..son grew up..draughtsman aec .lifetime
.bachelor.stayed home.look after mum who lived to 90...widow.he died 4
yrs after.daughter married had one child now canada she is 99 yrs old of
st john southall married..never had dad..photo.of her as baby when dad
went war...they have done geneology and visited grave france ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Mar-2013
Yes Keith, you are quite right
about the massive number of young men killed in the 1914-18 war. It
particularly upset me to read in R.J. Mead's "Growing Up With Southall
From 1904" that Southall Gazette Office loaned their shop for a
recruiting centre for "Kitchener's Army" the Middlesex Regiment. Within
two months 80% of the men were either dead, wounded or missing! It
certainly was cannon fodder.
The aunt who joined the Army became an officer, and I remember my
father telling me that his sister was visiting the trenches in France
and he had to salute her when she reached their trench. I hadn't
realised that conscription was raised until 1920 to enable them to deal
with continuing trouble spots in the Empire, etc ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Mar-2013
Yes Pauline, it was India, Ireland etc afterwards.
Many joined the army because the food was better and guaranteed than
what they got at home. Also, were not slaves to labouring for the big
country houses which got broken up after WWI as army pay was better than
what they had got before. So many men gone, the big houses could no
longer afford the staff when the surviving men came back to work in
factories. . . Andrew Marr's "History of Britain 1900-1945" book is
VERY good on this and well worth reading to learn WHY society changed so
much in the inter-war years ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Mar-2013
the kings shilling...bachelors
took photo of their mum..or hubby..wife kids..shillings was better than
chance poor payed work at home..over by xmas...but no...1916 july
somme..loss..then conscription..2 heston..came back from somme
lucky..but told..at pub..men knew 1917 going..that suicide death
often..nans brother knew..blown to bits..1931 census ..hayes
building..fire 2nd war..destroyed..but cigarette
match dropped..not bomb...bbc tv plans 100yrs 1914
war..documentary..also..all the leaders managers teachers uni.grammar
school.men..were 1st war sacrificed..as read...captain etc.1st to die
lead men over trench........read..civil war usa..deaths..more than 1st
war etc..so .many lives..........to see the cemeteries.is awful site
most men no stone..so names listed high huge plynth...stand there takes
breath away....my gdad war papers went to king st john king gazette
printers office to enlist.......high st also gazette john king
office......enlisters..photos men going along..road..as uxbridge
photos....1914...men..walk high st...crowd....enlisting..fetherstone rd
school boys...60/70 names on their plynth..statue since 1920s unveiled
...in western rd...st john ..holy trinity church..parish mens names
engraved boards..church.....names on road cenotaph heston village..and
greenford......ealing broadway one.names ... more >>
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by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 18-Mar-2013
My father told me of the hard
times when he was a lad in Birmingham back to back houses two up one
down shared toilets with eight other families. Pawned there best clothes
every Monday got them out Saturday. There were eight children mum &
dad and his mums sister & brother all living in this place. One of
my dad's sisters was born with withered leg needed Leg Irons his mum had
to beg from eight firms
for sponsering the leg iron only got six so my aunt never got the
treatment tough times indeed. Familys would not know what hit them if
they had to cope with this today !!! ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2013
yes ..sandy all over the country
..generations...working class and labourers...only knew their
neighbours...knew no different...all the same..bad dwellings they tried
to scrub..put stew on..kids top to tail in one bed..rented
places.......slow to get things changed..councils started up..good
people salt of the earth...kids their mum...respect their 12 hr day
heavy wk..dad..seasonal work often..fear
of..wkhse..deaths destitute..tough and strength had to be...village
hamlet or cramped town..war comes they did not know where france or
anything was...1911 census..schools only a bit...x often not read
write..work. .not time much else .or much else available to them..beer
pub..water not good..boil water...heston 1906 had one hang himself in
back carsy end yard .4 kids only 26.lack work..worries..buried church,, ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2013
southall scouts.....harold
burgess 1920 onwards..villiers..1st group....died 14 jan 2013.worthing
hospital..gazette......went war...then 1946 hanwell..scout group
1946.....1975 worked welding.blakes..acton...which moved with him..to
worthing west sussex areas..to 1995...got scout awards..catholic....80
yrs scouts man..of southall........
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Mar-2013
It wasn't all doom and gloom on
the 1911 Census, as all the daughters were working, two as Draper's
Assistants and one as a dressmaker, plus all the children were at school
from 10 down to 4. I was very surprised at that being at school at 4. I
suppose although times had been very hard, as the older ones went out
to work, however low paid, it helped out for the ones who were still at
school. Since the
mention of there being no 1931 & 1941 Census (the 1931 being burnt) I
have started putting down a lot more about past times for my family
about things they wouldn't know. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2013
thought you might do..wanted to
say ..jot down 1931 41...gt help....addresses jobs etc...long wait for
1921..they said wont be early like 1911 was ..but might be..security
they have to watch for........yes mine..females...1911 left sch age
13...servants ealing broadway....boys age 13 farm ag labourers
heston......but .sch log bks libraries say..teachers knew kids did not
really do...all those yrs...off
school..help..families..harvest etc..or pennies doing jobs...x on 1911
.still not enough sch days read write....many most work class...yet
interesting to see trade and gentry on census....mkt gardeners..southall
green norw green..heston..left probate money....so small amount...were
ok...kids better off dressed etc....the skilled men
trades..interesting......1931 would show explosion in factory skills
work etc....1931 they used to access ration books for 2nd war....another
on my 1911..left huge probate...gt trade at ships east london
docks..lighterman.master.....so born 1841 norwood green..he brave did
well..went off...made fortune.....sister 1870 wentusa..12 kids there she
died 1923...so on the usa census...they keep detailed..certs
and..records....... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2013
wonder...what routine was
to...find out servant vacancy 1900yrs........nan went..most had
to..leave sch age 13/14...if teacher had vicar or shop high st..knew of
vacancies..local paper...nan.3 kids squeezed into brood of aunt because
mum dad 2 kids died...so get out leave bit of room..get somepennies..pay
back..upbringing...terrible low wage scivvy she hated it....more kids
got into bed...grandchildren..heston..they..lodged
there..mum died asthma...went in one up one down.rented 1970..cupboard
door to wood step.cupboard steps up to low ceiling..bedroom....still
there now..revamped yr2000....went in museum one like it
alsocommon..most like that,.,,,nan came back hated it..... 1911
married..age 20..local chap...farm work they met .northhyde...1st baby
died..6 ok after.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2013
bankside in google bradbury
describe...so good for 1931 burnt census...rooms..parlour front they
waved off..son...burma..war 2nd...I could draw in detail 16 west ave of
1928 to 1961...broadway shops..good for 1931 census...NEW
RADIOTIMES..HEADline..drop.one.knit one midwife..people always
notice..tv mistakes...knitting needles blanket...but saw crochet squares
in blanket..sew together needle wool..blanket
stitch or over stitch...I did lots of it..letter says.but such episode
never usually see acting that pulls at the heart...new episodes chummy
all being done...1901..nan took 1 pence to school...her brother age
9/12...helping fields farm..fine not be school.....heston..her poor
aunt...had to find money....kids low wage seasonal work....generations
of struggle like most were....nan live motherinlaw.not gt..lost 1st
babythere......moved norw green rent old dwellingcockroaches move
out..then.to 1928 canal rent..old dwelling.......but 6 kids...struggled
there.........1928expensive rent.not easy but new.then council hse.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Mar-2013
long shot....pauline.....but
..was doing flickr board2....noticed your..stevens comment....genes
reunited.....lists those doing family tree.........anne doing family
tree..............has anne stevens born 1949.......middlesex.says
hayes..but reg dist birth cert often says sub dist hayes and
southall....you click on..contact or see tree ...costs a little
bit..not much...but...genes index...is free in google.........put email and password....and up comes trees...anne there.......if it is long shot help...hope.... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Mar-2013
Thanks Yvonne will get my daughter to assist me.
I don't know why but I have a strong feeling Mauvine is no longer with us. Don't ask me why.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2013
I wish she were ..what wonderful
thing if so....yes your daughter will find it easy in google genes
reunited.....so often the youngest of the family.....shows up....she
would be retired and so many doing family trees ..on line....and she
would want to ..coming from such lovely family....sure heard .my aunt
say stevens..in 1950s.....they ran came to us west ave to call us when
poor joan..was having
horrendous time...rhesus birth..in house.huge.blood tranfusion
there..named baby angela...because angels miracle both survived....emmas
youngest daughter joan..our gt friend sisterin law lovely
lady..opposite you...went to see angela joan 1980s when joan passed
cancer..angela bought the large corner hse..discount..with hubby 2
lovely little children..walls of houses but generations grow within..gt
stuff..living walls.. ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Mar-2013
Kew Gdns used to be just one old penny to get in right up until the mid 1960s. . How much to get in now?
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james marshall..music...southall etc
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
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lovely articles in google....they hope to unveil plaque hanwell high st ..at spring 2013
http://www.blamepro.com/Marshall/Jim-Marshall-biography-and-company-history.asp
was it bob let us know his dad caretaker dormers school.
as had read couple yrs ago...jim james said fish not for him...he loved music
says dad owned fish chip shop western rd...
often the caretakers took job later in life.....probably..tired
of shop..changed to caretaker as older person....his dad........the
telegraph also...articles in google...southall family... ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 8-Mar-2013
I knew Jim , but not his parents, bob
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2013
NO HIS PARENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN
..getting older ..they moved into southall green...from kensington
hammersmith..think.........1923/4 jim born..age 13 left school...did
notwant fish of his dad jim.fish chip western rd...........did several
jobs.......1st guitar amp shop was opened 1962 hanwell high st...plaque
9th april they will crowd there..ealing music club...highly active many
many yrs.....beatles
paul..sent praise gratitude sad jim death 2012..age 88.....jim worked
bit heston airport...my dad jim..also worked there...similar age...6
articles on jim..his parents..music..in google..... ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 9-Mar-2013
The first shop Jim opened in
Hanwell was a drum shop,he then opened a larger shop across the road.
and sold other instruments as well, he employed Ken Bran to make him a
bass speaker.which he started making and experimenting with in the back
of the shop,with Jims finacial backing. it then developed to
amplifiers.Jim knew nothing about electronics, Ken Bran was the brains.
Jim then opened a small factory in Hayes, and moved the shop in Hanwell to a shop in Ealing Broadway. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2013
lovely...yes couple articles in
google say 2 shops hanwell ...ist opened 1962.....your
paintings.......tv now bbc2.........ealing libray..uxbridge
..hounslow....etc..collections.... in ..google....or see at library 100s
of them....local scenes yrs....73 by ham of southall........today on
tv....adding more info..on google...on line...the peoples
paintings.....uk....so useful local social history info....and others.....yrs ... ... more >>
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 13-Mar-2013
I've just been reading about
James Marshall Music not that I remember the shop but it made me think
of a music shop in Hanwell it was on the road where you waited for the
buses to go to Brentford Great West Road,round the corner from Uxbridge
Rd, this would be early 1950s I would buy a 78 for around 4 shillings,
all the big bands Stan Kenton, Billy May, Jack Parnell and there was
another shop that sold flowers close by. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Mar-2013
yrs used that
bus...zeta...junction uxbridge rd.at east edge hanwell
broadway...opposite st joseph catholic church...buses still come out
from there from greenford....turn left east to ealing broadway........up
at the lido west ealing..old cinema..corner there...buses go
across.....down northfields rd...down to brentford...across gt west
rd....have used for isleworth etc......music shop also..north
side..by james walker jewellers..ealing broadway..opposite
..cinema...they are just making that multi
screen..now...rebuild.......guitar..music..shop..at oldfield lane
greenford high st...down by ravenor pk..ast police station and
library.....singles in the 50s 60s..4/-..6/-..from woolworths....LP
vinyl..the sleeves covers.clever art work.....xmas at woolies.now
gone.sold loads records.every yr......... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2013
gazette......4.30.sat 6
apr..wholeday.big event for him.......hanwell by clock unveil
plaque........music festival.....celebrities...amps
guitar......marshall.....gratitude.....shop etc.....pub concerts day
event........gazette...has retro page....now tabloid...but was
broadsheet....fri 30 march 1984.change......item....yr 1595.historic
barn heritage barn at famous smith farm..top lady marg rd..into
northolt...build houses there...preserve..they moved barn to chiltern
museum..gt day out by harefield middx...just over canal.......lots barn
houses church school ..preserved there events etc...gt day out..... ... more >>
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Snells Farm, Southall
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by Heather.vanelkan@btinternet.com (Member 10282608) on 7-Mar-2013
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I think that some of my relatives used to live/work at Snells Farm, my
Mum was Mena King b1924 , her brother was Dennis b1920ish ,they lived at
82 North Rd. I know my Mum and Nan Beatrice , both went to North Rd
School. Their house was opposite the Plough pub and I have memories of
Snells Farm but that was when I was little, I was born 1952. I cannot
find the link between the King family and Snell s
Farm. My Nan's maiden ñame was Steptoe and I know she had a brother
Will and sisters Mabel and Nancy. Does anyone know anything about the
Farm please? Thks. ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Mar-2013
Heather-I used to live in North
Road at No 74. I didn't know the Kings-the children were somewhat older
then me-I was born in 1928, and lived in North road from 1933. I think
your relarives lived next door to the Wiggins at No 84. They were also
near to the Gladwishes-two girls-one Moira, and the dad was a policeman.
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Mar-2013
Snells Farm-pre WW2 my mum used to send me to Snells farm shop to get eggs
- Re: Snells Farm, Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
plough pub still open .on the
green opposite...parade shops.of today.there..north rd school records
log books..library ealing broadway local hist dept southall....mr meads
book southall says snells was last farm..of pre war..1947 new prefabs
built for men coming home from war..may ..mr mrs l fuller 1st to move
in.in gazette.....built on farm land......before snell many yrs was
ewers farm....before
that was dormans wells farm.....bill king 1930 was southall boxer.did 3
contests boxing....in google......waxlow farm..that northern southall
went..mt pleasant farm land they used move livestock down to uxbridge
rd.for southall mkt high st..many decades going back....1930s 40s
...burns ave memory of getting milk eggs.from snells... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
only on line post office directory on line free.is
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/pageviewer.asp?fn=0000cj2y.tif&dn=EAL20007tif&zoom=s
1914.......mrs steptoe 1914..4 mt pleasant..at dormers northerly end
road .north rd...farm.areas in 1914..dormers farm .later became snells
farm....only 3 other steptoe southall green areas..george james
arthur.....coincidence or type error in book...81 north
rd ealing.steptoe john.......ealing library has all yrs directories.to
look at............lots king..southall....nearby shrubbery 1914 mrs
king..miss king and henry at oswald rd..fred king at townsend
rd...........robert dean publican plough pub north rd.1914...george
etherington farmer nearby......post office usually the man of house..so
..king.your mums husband christian name would help.......and nan
steptoe.beatrice. family the male 1st name.... ... more >>
- Re: Snells Farm, Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
steptoe along the road from your
north rd gran beatrice sounds..correct as you say went to old north rd
school......mt pleasant was ..large main..farm areas.along to
dormers..north rd...1914 yrs...
king..famous..southall gazette owners..many decades...high st southall
shop by north rd........and king st had king gazette printers...mr meads
southall book said 1st war recruiting was done in 2 king offices.....my
gdad northhyde enlisted..king st office says on his papers... on line
ancestry..1st war......southall churches and library has lists
men..local...war deaths..and also free on line commonwealth war grave
dept ... more >>
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 8-Mar-2013
I lived at 23 Dormers Rise in the
prefabs, ours was one of three that were next to Snell's Farm. The
three prefabs also had allotments at the rear and they were next to the
Golf course; to the front was a grassed area, Dad said that it was great
because the council cut his front lawn. A Tower block now stands on the
site. The Lanfords were our next door neighbours, Keith was one year
older than me and strange as it seems, we both moved to High Wycombe in the 1960's. ... more >>
- Re: Snells Farm, Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
walked past your dormers
rise.....on way school....my class mate opposite osborne rd.....we were
prefab..along fleming rd...8th parade...by greenford rd ..handy for path
to bunny pk..brent lodge.....gas fridge flip up.table by larder...metal
little unit cupboard doors.....little tiny fire coal in living
room....seperate toilet bathroom..2 bed....back garden square..fenced
wire...shed coal and bike....mattinlgy
behind us..graves in frontof us....cohn the gp doc....1947 fuller .in
may 1st move in...charlie bridges we knew up by you....fishing he
enjoyed..big green..over to row shops..co op...sweet shop..in dip brick
wall...the mounds they played on became elderly persons home
1960s..going out to dormers lane snells .farm..by which house..rountree
artist lived who.gave to north rd school at visit..he opened dormers new
school 1934.... ... more >>
- Re: Snells Farm, Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
http://www.familyorigins.com/users/m/i/t/Eric-A-Mitchelmore/FAMO1-0001/d3.htm
in google..tree...wedding of steptoe...st george uxbridge rd along broadway southall
1920,,william charles steptoe married hilda matthews..children joan maud steptoe...
- Re: Snells Farm, Southall
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 8-Mar-2013
I cannot remember the name of the
farm but back in the 1960's I organised a scout camp on the farm that
adjoined the golf course to the east of Southall and before the Iron
Bridge etc. I must dig out an old map in order to identify the farm. It
was the local 6th Southall "Trojans" scout group. When arranging things
with the farmer I asked him from which part of the West Country he had
originated on account of
his accent. It turned out that he was born and bred in Southall and his
accent was the original accent of the area. ... more >>
- Re: Snells Farm, Southall
by Heather.vanelkan@btinternet.com (Member 10282608) on 8-Mar-2013
I remember my Dad was very active
in the scout movement, firstly in Shepherds Bush then in Southall. I am
thinking it may have been the Trojans. I can remember going to
somewhere called The Retreat opp Holy Trinity Church, Church parades and
a scout trip on a Holgates Removal lorry. My dad was a group scout
leader I believe, his ñame was Russell J Willis. This would have been
mid to end 50's.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Mar-2013
Heather you mention the
Retreat across from Holly Trinity Church this was the
meeting place for the 3rd Spartans scouts for church parades
1 Sunday every month in the 1950s, we also meet at Holly
Trinity Hall Lady Margaret Rd & North Rd school Tuesdays
& Thursdays. I had a walk round where the Retreat was
its all gone now.
- Re: Snells Farm, Southall
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 9-Mar-2013
I was a "Sixer" in the Trojans Cubs, we met in a hall near the Beehive Pub.
The Leader lived in either Dormers Ave or Cornwell Ave.
Remember church parades at Holy Trinity and one special one at St Paul's Cathedral.
- Re: Snells Farm, Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2013
that hall still there 1960s....by
bus stop 105 to southall.broadway......hall...on the east
side........dormers kids..walked round to it to rehearse
plays..........wood hut.....we did ..wilde .importance ernest....lady
bracknell etc.........stroll back to school...dormers lane corner...with
beehive at cormer..still open pub....they always called that traffic
black spot.......the bend in allenby rd...is
so terrible there..still same today...cant see cars
coming...............most..all kids used that corner ...to
school.....was ancient old called muddy lane 1930..then gradually houses
built.....lane it was only for taking cattle livestock..mt pleasant etc
down to old southall mkt uxbridge rd....high st....... ... more >>
- Re: Snells Farm, Southall
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 14-Mar-2013
We moved to prefabs Golf links
Est. 1959 got married from there 1963 Holy Trinity Church Southall Never
had a place all to ourselves until Mum & Dad moved there it was
lovely own garden & everything lived at 14 Third Parade.
- Re: Snells Farm, Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Mar-2013
yes.....sandy..............we
were 8th parade...by fleming rd............you were further back at
14th....did you know..christine hardman family...............at the
back..high..spike ..wire fence...onto pumping building..square..then
over stream little wood...millpond side.......we were up the far top..by
greenford.rd.cohen the gp ...and easy near bunny pk path..across
golflinks brent river.........dad
dug lovely square back garden...pansies path..rose arbour..wire
fence..around..outside.....screws of walls with black dots over..back
bedroom.living room....front kitchen bathroom..bedroom......one little
fire...coal in shed.....quiet...1949 on yrs......1970 they built flats
on it........walk windmill lane to greenford shops...fuller was 1st move
in 1947.......walk to past dormers rise...faraday rd...the green..fog
could not see..feet ahead of you..to school..dormers...little shops
co.op..sweet shop..down dip.wall...green..the mound became old peoples
home on corner...out to was snells farm...allotments
dormers.....got..different photos.....of all................. ... more >>
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Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Mar-2013
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Since this morning, when I try to log on, the page which comes up is
that for messages 180-200. I can get back to page 1, bit it is a
nuisance. Had anyone else hasd this problem???
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
IT HAPPENED TO ME MONTH
AGO....seems ok now..this page down to oct..next page starts
sept......twice..happened that clicked memory history..for
southallknowhere....as google came up...and seemed to click an older
page........but only happened twice..ok otherwise....
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Mar-2013
Yvonne-have just logged in, and got page 1 OK!
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 4-Mar-2013
I don't know if this helps
Michael but I've made a shortcut to this site & placed it on my
toolbar and it's just one click to view the site & if I need to post
I log in at that time.
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
long time now ...just put
southa......in gogle...and 3 come up ..as memory....history...... click
and up it comes open...site page.............
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
flying scotsman..90 yrs 9 pm bbc2 today...southall station links also...were...........
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
mike............snells farm
memories on short page......short one single page here of ours....eggs
milk..she got...horses cows.local there......
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 4-Mar-2013
Yes Yvonne but it can't be quicker than doing just one click on the taskbar to have the Southall page come up immediately.
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
fly scotsman 2003 last of 3
millionaires sold it to york rail museum...gloss glamour
romance..steam..doncaster built saw southall station sheds photos to do
with it.1924 delivered shiny to wembley empire exhibition..huge show
there...task bar toolbar..use during day research...4/5 items......just
quick sou ........google .....and as memory history up it comes
click................close down at end
day....empty task bar..another day..if research..4 or 5 go on
there..use ..go back to.working on......but computer seems better to
shut close down all end day.............. ... more >>
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Mar-2013
WELL...EVERYBODY YOU SPEAK
TO...HATES NEW REUNITE SITE......SINCE 2000.....MANY USED..SCHOOLS ETC
SOUTHALL ETC.....JUST got my class mate....southall to toronto now
..brit columbia 9yrs....she not like reunite site......50% our
school...gone..people left site.....how stupid of reunite.....cant get
roads streets at all now..schools so patchy....crown cork firms used to
be there......2 yrs ago...wrote
strongly 7 times to reunite..they said ..we thought people wanted would
review but they have done nothing....people did not complain often
enough or at all.................photos were easy
etc.....quick.....quick to see teachers...memories etc...ruined site now
2yrs..they have not rectified ... more >>
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Mar-2013
Couldn't agree more about the
current Friends Reunited-I find it unusable.The original version was
easy to use, with a mine of information. Why was it changed?????????
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Mar-2013
if it aint broke dont fix
it....ha......yr2000 so many started computer millenium nostalgia
sites.....some loose interest......reunite.think trendy.they
find..famous bits..themes etc..get people involved......but...so many
members were using for their own..school street ..jobs .clubs
etc..nostalgia and reunite..quick find..lost pals......reunite lost site
of that.....7 times complained got knowhere....they.payed
to change it now dont go back....can see my section...many left site
inlast 3 yrs.....ruin good thing...are they american..origin of
reunite..or what.....tried yesterday..gave up...lost its quick
easy..find all..was so quick easy..some has been deleted......grrrhhh ... more >>
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Mar-2013
Although I didn't use it much,
Friends Reunited constantly send me e-mails telling me what wonderful
things they have got on their site. Don't impress me one bit, and I
immediately delete it.
- Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Mar-2013
yes I get them...most
delete...clicked couple...but not worth it...silly...not really
interesting....they seem to think the site is just for..people to..use
their links themes of nostalgia......but dont think most people
interested enough in their themes.......need to keep the main site
also...just the way it was quick......easy to use...full full of
.southall so clear...where has it gone.....they
might realise eventually......what people think..and want....but doubt
it...never get the people back now..they all joined after 2000...far
gone off site now....pity...anything changed should monitor monthly to
see if correct decision..if wrong have money know how to put back
quickly...before people go.... ... more >>
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Northcote Avenue
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by JG (Member 10283035) on 19-Feb-2013
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Hi guys just doing some research on who lived on Northcote Avenue and wondering if anyone knew anything or had any pictures?
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
Hi JG - I lived in Northcote
Avenue from around 1937, and we moved out as a family in 1952. Spent all
our childhood there during the war. Although I haven't any photos of
the road itself, there are a few on our Photoboards. Whereabouts do you
live in the road?
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by JG (Member 10283035) on 19-Feb-2013
Hi Pauline, how do I access the photoboard?
I live at 82, so between the corner shop which I understand was called Grubhams and Norman Avenue.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
Yes, I believe you are probably
living in the private part of Northcote Avenue. We lived at 153 on the
council estate. I think Yvonne Butler is better qualified to tell you
how to access the Photoboards. Watch this space.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
Grubhams was a wonderful little
shop where all the neighbours regularly shopped daily. They used to let
you have your shopping "on tick" until you got paid at the weekend. They
knew all of their customers, unlike the huge supermarkets today,and no
doubt helped us as a family, and loads of other families to get through
the week.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Feb-2013
best wish jg...the yrs always
helps..we were west ave 1928 to 61.family....relatives..northcote ave
1930s to 1989.......photos are good on google..the house selling....gt
one of ..think..down by pauline..row of 4/5 houses there...east
side..down by spikes bridge rd...our ron..lived..off at..dane..we have
members saxon....norman ave.had 1958daughter her of mayor haigh.we all
used grubhams..1950s had
the clinic opposite teeth etc...alleys through..to rds going west to
tudor rd school.photos our board......your east side backed onto my
cousin west ave back garden he played narrow grass alley
between.......alleys northcote pub now closed to alexandra ave..len knew
jason donavon.gdad lived.by
grubhams......www.flickr.com....southallboard54@yahoo.co.uk......yahoo......or
in google..flickr photostream .southallboard...54 different
boards..over the last 4yrs.....in google .use index...by
typing..northcote ave...southallknowhere..loads neighbours comments over
last 12 yrs..here on this site..mr hill..etc...ctrl.key and f....use as
scroll index..takes you to..mention northcote ave..paragraphs..gt
memories grubhams etc.was nice areas nice people...let us know ..we can
try again help..with flickr. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Feb-2013
your yrs...try ..friends
reunited...11 yrs site there...members southall...in ...places
section.....they do roads...yrs numbers.families....quite few houses
northcote ave there......in google free site....places
streets.....schools gives yrs of...students at local schools..who chat
and photos there.....streetview is gt..2008 yrs van camera went
round..northcote ave etc..broadway....houses doors front
gardens...nostalgia.....trees growth..still corner shop there..at
grughams corner step going down...ringing door open...broken bicuit
silver tins glass top..cut cheese..ham butter..etc..chair.to sit at
counter..pub..offlicence..arrowroot..bisc..money back bottles..public
bar saloon..lounge..big dog.back grass and carpk.....1970s
..music.......1907 pub...dominoes our gdad uncles...darts.. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
One piece of history, which only
the people who lived there at that time would remember, was the ending
of World War 11 in Europe in 1945. As kids, when we were in bed, we
heard a lot of shouting out in the street, and when we looked out of the
window people were shouting that the war was over. Everyone was going
absolutely mad. We all got dressed and went outside, and within a very
short time a huge
bonfire was started in the middle of where Norman Avenue joined Norhcote
Avenue. Everything was being thrown on to it. There was an Air-raid
shelter in Norman Avenue, and all the bunk beds were pulled out and
thrown on to the fire. People's trellis was ripped down, and on that
went as well. In fact, anything that would burn was added to the
inferno. We kept out eyes on our wooden gate in the front garden!
Everybody seemed to be running about. The fire was still burning when we
hsd to eventually come in, and the next day there was a massive hole in
the tarmac. I understood later that the same thing happened in several
roads. It was a wonderful night. One that I will never forget, and we
all went to bed so happy after all those long years of war. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Feb-2013
some schools or students do
projects..who lived life your house street before you...ealing broadway
library local social history dept open 7 days week..loads
photos..electoral role..each street each decade..jobs.occupants
etc,,census 1911 in google....82 probably west side..let us know ..what
happens with northcote pub..and how spikes pk develops new starting
there..refurbish..thanks.....7 days week mr oates librarian there...........photos in local history books he has... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
Another piece of history in
Northcote Avenue were the two Costermongers who both lived there. There
was Percy Rose who had a horse and cart further up the road on the same
side as we were. He used to trade in the town, and the Ive fsmily who
also had a horse and cart and were very well known in Southall. They,
too, traded around Southall with their fruit and vegetables, etc. and
lived directly opposite
us. Mrs Ive used to sell her homemade toffee apples to all the kids. My
sister remembers buying eating apples from her before she went to
school, and she was very generous. Denbigh was a sweet shop run by a
lovely Welsh couple, and was further down Northcote Avenue after you
left Grubhams on the corner. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 19-Feb-2013
Hi Pauline, thanks for your kind
words about my Nan (Mrs Ive), the one thing she always made sure of was
that anybody who visited was well fed. I spent the first year of my life
at 140, before my mum, Joyce Ive, and dad got a flat in Western Road;
but I spent a lot of time at Nan's until I went school. Two things stick
in my mind, one was Nan boiling up beetroots in an old copper in the
kitchen and the other
was around Christmas time, which was the sight of most of my aunts'
sitting round a tin bath in the kitchen plucking chickens from the run
in the back garden (the tin bath was to collect the feathers in). My
Uncle John still lives down Northcote he will be 90 later this year. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
Hi Colin, that's so nice to hear
from you, and to know you are the nephew of John Ive. Fancy, he's still
going strong at 90. He's a few years older than me, as I'm only 82 this
year. I remember a grand daughter of your Nan came on this Site a few
years ago after she had read a piece I put on about your Nan's toffee
apples then. She talked about how your Nan always had a spare dinner if
anyone turned up
unexpectedly. If I've got it right, I believe her mum and dad lived near
Bankside at one time, and my mum and dad stayed some time with them and
a crowd of people, at either Easter or Christmas. I do remember we all
slept over with other children in a big bed, and I was sick because I
had stuffed so much. We lived in Bankside at that time, and there was
me, Bob and David then. Jennifer and Kathleen were both born while we
were at Northcote Avenue. John would probably remember my name then as
Hackman. I remember when the Ive boys were getting their horse ready for
a show, and how they polished the brasses up and the horse had ribbons
on. That was a long time ago. I also remember your Gran's aunt Mrs
Jones, who lived two doors away from us. Violet used to sleep over with
me and Bob when my dad was on night work at the AEC, and my mum was away
with TB. A lot of water has gone under the bridge. Bob and David have
both died, and there's just us three girls left now. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
Hi Colin - I've just found the post from your Nan's grand daughter Sarah on May 2009:
The post on March 6th from Pauline was great to read, Mrs Ive was my
Nan! I now have a great image of her and the toffee apples.My dad was
Cyril the second youngest of the Ive family, sadly he passed away 11
years ago.We are still in contact with all my dads surviving brothers
and now only one sister.My uncle John
still lives in Northcote Ave today.I have fond memories of visiting my
nans house, where there was always a spare dinner in oven and a tin full
of cakes.My mum was reading the posts with me and remembered lots of
things mentioned as she use to live in Cherry Ave, her maiden name was
Thompson.
... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 19-Feb-2013
Hi Pauline, it was my cousin
Sarah who said about the toffee apples before, I don't think it was her
mum and dad you were thinking of, I think it may have been her
grandparents whose name was Thompson and they lived in Cherry Avenue and
if memory serves me correctly Mr Thompson worked for AEC like your dad.
Sarah's mother's name was Eileen, known as Nina, and she is about the
same age as yourself, Eileen married Cyril Ive, Cyril was born in 1933. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 19-Feb-2013
I remember the trio that played for dancing in the Northcote for years. Gladys, Sid, and Knobby.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
My friend Mauvine and I used to
sneak round the back of the Northcote when the music was playing in the
dance hall. We were too young to go in there, and I would get a telling
off if my dad found out. When the Yanks arrived there were often fights
going on over the girls. We always made ourselves scarce if that ever
happened. The music was nice to listen to though.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 20-Feb-2013
Lived at 127 from approx 1952, until I got married in the ealy 1960's.
Mum, Dad and Grandmother Flo Rowbottom moved out in the early 1970's.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Feb-2013
Thanks Colin. Yes, you were
right. When I looked back on the Saxon road thread in 2009 (can't
believe it was that long ago) Sarah mentions that it was probably her
grandfather Bill Thompson and her Nan, who was called Violet, where we
all went to in Cherry Avenue. They evidently had a lot of parties. A
long time ago!
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Feb-2013
JG - If you can locate
SOUTHALLBOARD 5 there are some nice ones of Northcote Avenue, and one of
Spikes Bridge road where we used to walk through the alleyway to the
canal. We only used to go that way when we were walking to the canal,
and over the bridge, otherwise we would go in the entrance of the
Municipal Sports Ground to go to the playground or play rounders and
racing in the park. We could still
get to the canal from there if we wanted to. All the kids used to swim
in the canal (or the cut) as we called it, or paddle in it. It wasn't
very clean though, and dead dogs were often floating in it! ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by JG (Member 10283035) on 21-Feb-2013
Hi guys, you've been a lot of help. I've read a lot of interesting stories. How do I access Storyboard 5?
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Feb-2013
Try entering below in Google to get Southallboard5
Flickr: southallboard5's Photostream
www.flickr.com/photos/47964609@N06/
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Feb-2013
JG I'm not the best person to be advising you about this, but try what Yvonne told you. Tap in the following in Google:
flickr photostream southallboard5
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Feb-2013
"Rounders"? WHen is the last
time you saw kids playing rounders?? Kids today would not know what
'rounders' is, and more importantly, we used to organise these things
for ourselves. Today, kids would be incapable of arranging a game of
rounders. The ability to organise anything for themselves has been
"educated out of them". The Nanny State does not like things like
this, it might violate "'Elf
'n' safety" regulations. e.g., kids organising a ball game without
helmets? In the street where they might get run over or abducted by a
nutter? No this country is a foreign land to me now. Kids today will
have never heard of 'rounders' ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 21-Feb-2013
I remember rounders being run by the teachers at Tudor Rd infants.The site was adjacent to the toilet block ie 1939-42.
On a quiz show here in OZ the other night a question was asked, what
game played with a bat where one had to stop other players hitting their
legs with a ball. Two contestants(both in late 20`s) did not know. They
were given 3 possible answers.
I think you are right these simple games are lost to our G/Children. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 21-Feb-2013
French Cricket is the answer.I hope every one knew the answer.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 22-Feb-2013
Having accompanied my grandson to
Beavers, I was persuaded to stay and help. There is a real need to
organise some suitable scout hut games. However, when I dug out some old
books of scout games I found that hardly any would now be acceptable.
Games like British Bulldog and the many variants etc etc all involved
body contact that could lead to complaints and worse. I have mixed
feelings about this. I
remember some very rough games that could become an excuse for extremely
unpleasant bullying. On the other hand todays kids are in need of more
physical excitement and challenges. As a boy I wandered the locality
with friends and climbed and played in a manner that would now be
condemned as antisocial. Perhaps one step towards a solution to some
youth inactivity would be for more parents and others to be involved
with the youngsters in physical leisure activities. I would say that I
have terrific admiration for many of todays youth and for the manner in
which they cope with the difficult world created for them by my
generation. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Feb-2013
there are so many millions..youth
uk and abroad...only hear of smaller number of any age....many cope
with vaste wide input of world 2013...many most huge credit to them and
their parents...each generation back..pros cons..of .life all
ages..problems etc..have worked career with all ages.... 2013 most are
such polite intelligent kind.healthy...each generation..different
things..thank goodness they
develop in their own world generation..as takes forward to amaze .good
things...as all generations pros cons..just hear each
generation.the.noise of the down side of a few...majority quiet as
ourselves.and our own previous families ..who did so well in their own
time..sport as well.... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Feb-2013
Yes, I agree that a lot of
youngsters do need more excitement and activity. However, it can never
be the same as it was in our younger days in Southall. Apart from the
climbing of trees, which I did with my brothers and their friends in
Southall park - even climbed the tallest tree there, we walked
everywhere. If we wanted to go to Kew gardens we all knew we didn't have
enough money to ride there,
snd we had to walk. It was a challenge. We used to walk to the Iron
bridge from Northcote Avenue, then hop on a bus from Hanwell Garage to
the clock at Hanwell. We then crossed over the road to Boston Manor road
and tried to run as far as we could before a bus came, and got on a bus
for the last part of the journey to Kew. We then had to be careful that
we'd got enough money left to get a part of the way home. We used to do
the same if we wanted to go to Ealing Commom fair. Children don't have
so much freedon as we had in our days, and there are so many
restrictions. Can't play conkerd for a start! We were exceptionally
lucky to have the Municipal Sports ground right on our doorsteps as we
spent a great part of our childhood in there, and got up to all sorts of
things. Some schools have now sold off their playing fields and some
parks are not aa safe as they used to be. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Feb-2013
Sorry about the spelling" "freedon" should be "freedom" and "conkered" should be "conkers".
Have to go to "Specsavers".
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 22-Feb-2013
How did we ever survive to reach
the great ages we are? We did so many things that are considered too
dangerous for todays children.
I loved rounders and I was a pretty good hitter and sprinter. Hated
Hockey though.When you think that the boys used to dive into the cut
from the bridge over Spikes Bridge not knowing what had been thrown in
there.Out all day over the park with some sandwiches (jam usually
) and a bottle of lemonade made with lemonade powder. Mums never
worried about us but of course we had Park Keepers then to keep an eye
on us. Happy days. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Feb-2013
I think that lemonade powder was called creamola foam sold by weight in paper bags
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 22-Feb-2013
The lemonade crystals that I
remember were sold from a big glass sweet jar. They were yellow
crystals. We used to buy 2 ounces then mix with water until it tasted
lemony enough. The rest we would dip our fingers in and lick off. Ended
up with a yellow finger.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Feb-2013
Oh! I remember those yellow
crystals Dylis. I'd forgotten all about the yellow finger. I do remember
getting very thirsty when we were out and about, especially when we
were hsving a hot summer!
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Feb-2013
Sherbet lemons anyone??
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Feb-2013
Yes please Keith. They were one of my favourites, but they were a bit sharp.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 23-Feb-2013
On our way to Dormers Wells school, there was a small shop on route that sold small bottles of pop.
Some were very odd colours. The shop was between the parade of shops and Martins opposite the Beehive Pub.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Feb-2013
so many yrs that shop opposite
beehive got used by dormers kids for sweets....was post office at one
time..still there grocers..beehive still open.......then the little bits
of shops as you go around...the big bend...into..shops along..mt
pleasant..straight row shops..used by many over the yrs.....another bend
and going into north rd..off to the south ..or into carlisle
ave.....southall policeman lived
by friend in burns ave......masefield ave lived zeta.....little old
cottage opposite beehive..listed .conserved......new entrance to new
dormers.school....in allenby rd now..2012... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 23-Feb-2013
Hi I have been reading with much
interest this site for some time and delight in reading and recalling
many of my old haunts. I lived in Viking Road from 1941 (when I was
very small) until 1959. I went to Dormers Wells School which I left in
1955 and frequented the sweet shop opposite the beehive. My maiden name
was Johnson and just wonder if anyone remembers me. I shall continue to
follow this site and hope to contribute more in the future. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Feb-2013
Hi Valerie - I used to live in
Northcote Avenue, and I remember a very good looking guy with red hair
whose name was Johnson, who lived in your vicinity. He was quite a bit
older than me. This would have been in the late 1940's.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 23-Feb-2013
Hello Pauline I do have a brother
his name is Terry and he is 79 (6 years older than me) but he didn't
have ginger hair it was mousy and is now white. I am trying to recall
someone older with ginger hair but can't at present. The last time I
came to Southall was for a school union in 2000.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Feb-2013
I recall the small shop at
Mount Pleasant on the bend the lady in the shop also sold
homemade ice lollies for 1d old money i think it is now a
house.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Feb-2013
I was at Dormers Wells
1940-1942(then went on to Southall Tech). I remember that sweet shop;I
also remember a lady who lived in one of the nearby houses, a Mrs
Martin. She was oftem at her gate shouting out the supposed mis-deeds
of the Dormers Wells kids. We used to shout out a little rhyme "Old
mother Martin, keeps on -----!
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Feb-2013
Although I didn't go to Dormers
Wells school, my sister Jennifer Hackman was there until 1952, when we
moved out of Northcote Avenue. She would have been 13 when she left
Dormers Wells. She was absolutely devastated when we moved, as she
excelled in all the sports there, and competed for the school.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Feb-2013
best wishes val....1955 leaving
dormers...so many of us went there..miss morris was head when I was
there..friends reunited free site..has all the yrs pupils teachers
memories....closed the old walk in now..right to girls side .they
demolish 2013...new building 2012.on the back fields..so security
entrance students swipe card to gao in..at allenby rd 1014 students.to
6th form 19yrs old..mixed now.....2000
was reunion..old classrooms upstairs not looking the same at
corridors...back.field dinner hut long gone.swim pool indoor sports
there now...my cousin born 1936 used to park his bike at my aunts
allenby rd.then go in back way to dormers..we lived west ave family 1928
to 1961...broadway shops always good.....alleys between saxon to
us....... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Feb-2013
todays gazette....uxbridge and
all local areas editions.....in google..london air ambulance move from
denham now northolt airport...they had the sea king helicopters there
for olympics with typhoons...wednesday itv new series..same house lived
families 1944 1976 2012...costume..lovely gill halfpenny gt actress and
gt jive at tv strictly dancing...saw yesterday local...old sweet shop
high st...loads jars
back shelves..and colourful..retro sweets going back in time...in google
also.to buy.......and only 40s theme cafe have been in...floral china
cups...£3.30 tea and bacon sandwich....in google only found one at
shakespeare stratford avon..lincs woman opened one....but rare theme tea
shop...as black as your hat..label beer..100 bottles brewery theme
different labelled..shop selling all 40s things......excellent trolley
bus ytube....1930s teddington to twickenham..inside bus also....old
cinema corner at teddington..my relative lived twickenham rd..born west
mid hosp..dad was in west mid....we enjoyed cinema tv studio audience at
by thames famous teddington studios...was by prince charles at his
visit marble hill hse nice art gallery...twickers rugby museum is
good...... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Feb-2013
cant see meaning yet of yesterday
1940s theme cafe shop.lots items 1940s for sale...bottles beer
labels..black as your hat etc....but black nooker knocker iron knocker
london newgate prison..ace spades..tar .thunder....whole lists of all in
google at phrases......my cousin out all day..into everything..old days
so many expressions daily...he is black as ace spades etc
etc..colourful language old days..often daily...
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 24-Feb-2013
As a boy I was sad to see that my
mother did not use her full ration for sweets (and for some other
items). I now understand that we could not afford them. I remember that
occasionally Ives in Western Road had some unrationed liquorice sticks
that were woody and had to be chewed and sucked to extract the flavour.
When I was at Western Road primary we were one occasion given a tin of
sultanas that I believe
had been donated by the Australian government.It is strange now to
remember how restricted were our finances and diet after the War. My
scottish mother would raise the butcher's eyebrows when requesting bones
from which she then made a broth with vegetables from my father's two
allotments. It was actually very tasty and healthy. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Feb-2013
Those Liquorice Sticks sound like
the Spanish Wood that we used to buy in the sweet shops. They were
quite addictive, but didn't last long. My mother didn't use all her
clothing coupons during the war, mostly because they weren't able to
afford new clothes. I think our neighbours next door used to do a swop
for something or other. I also remember my mother used to ask Grubham's
for ham bones, and they also made lovely tasty soup with vegetables added. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 24-Feb-2013
The little shop between North
Parade and Allenby Rd. was Broads owned by Mrs Broad who made those
lovely penny lollies and penny drinks.This would have been in the 40s
and 50s. My son who was born in 1961 remembers it as Kennetts but says
it wasn't open for long.My husband remembers Mrs Broad very well as he
only lived round the corner in Allenby Rd.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 24-Feb-2013
Thanks Yvonne Miss Hall was the
Headmistress while I was at DWS and I had a good friend in both West Ave
and East Ave. My parents were still in Viking Rd until around 1986. I
am a member of Friends Reunited and have followed the news of the new
building etc with interest. Best wishes Valerie
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Feb-2013
lovely val.....yes lots nice
comments ..school on reunited...1986...yes...we local....changes...but
gt memories of nan..aunts..managing the..broadway shops...war 40s..50s
60s..parkers bread...butcher..greengrocer stalls...etc..what was surname
friend east ave west ave...we knew some..names neighbours...most nice
front gardens..lawn flower beds,,,hedge around..play hop scotch on
paving slabs.....couple
little greens at west ave...and one at greenford ave...shackleton
hall....buses lady marg rd...yrs no cars at all.....bikes...all the
cinemas etc....frith photos is good site..dozen and more local southall
people of yrs back....memories...woolies...cousins draper shop..snooker
hall upstairs broadway...labour club..salvation army hut along..sunday
school...canal hayes bridge...607 207 buses...took us west ealing or
hillingdon hospital..ways... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 24-Feb-2013
Interesting that you mention 607
& 207 again. My brother (now 80) says that when the trolleybuses
went, that coincided with the period of greatest change in our area.
Life was safe, stable and unruffled when we had trolleybuses, but by
1961 when the Routemasters were with us, change was rapid and little of
it for the better, , I can agree to some extent with what he says, as
the 50s were a comfortable
time, but 10 years later, society was changing so quickly that it began
to break down and the old family values started to disappear. What
does everyone else think?? ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 25-Feb-2013
Hi Yvonne the surnames were Smith
East Ave and Marks West Ave. I was actually born in Clarence Street
but moved to Viking Road when very small. I have the book SOUTHALL
830-1982 by R.J. Meads which I bought in the 1980's whilst visiting my
parents. I also have Images of England SOUTHALL compiled by Jonathan
Oates. I dip into them both from time to time.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 25-Feb-2013
Hello to Valerie Brown (nee
Johnson): I think we must have gone to Dormers around the same time as I
remember Miss Hall very well. Always wore a skirt suit, shirt and tie
and had a very mannish haircut. Very formidable, wouldn't stand for any
nonsense.
My surname was Johnson and I lived in Northcote Avenue, probably about
the time you lived in Viking, but I don't remember you. I do remember a Frank
Johnson who I wrote to as a pen pal while he was stationed in Benghazi
during National Service who lived either in Viking or in Spikes Bridge
Road.
I loved Spanish Wood but it had adverse effects if you ate too much! I
didn't like the dried bean, which was very hard and bitter, but can't
remember what it was called. There was a kind of chewing gum,
individually wrapped like a toffee, which looked waxy and had no taste
at all. The day that Black Jacks and Fruit Salad came into the shops
(four for a penny) was a great delight. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Feb-2013
miss morris went after
hall....secretary was mrs grey..1934 school..same office...south
side.....boys head office next at entrance ..they all came from 1920s
30s education...degree....but no teacher training colleges then...I
worked library teachers college acton high st...new lovely teachers
developing....morris was quieter..was respect..tweedy brown boot
shoes..born far west wales went back to retire.....but
wild outdoor kids of 30s 40s etc...they had to be fierce as hall is
called in reunited site.....photo...marks....on our board..grank..on dee
ferris haigh photo southall council...1958 the mayors southall
group...frank marks in photo.....so glad you have meads and by oates
southall book...they are so very good..fscinating...lovely read..lots
rare photos all yrs.....oates has tudor rd kids at war...in school
collection for war fund spitfire fund....at ealing library local hist
dept.prof oates there 30 yrs more...his gt collection info photos maps
etc painting..lovely visit .daily 7 day week evenings....talks.audio
visual..chat evenings..social hist people.and times gone by...so we all
walked...carlyle or through east ave across lady marg..for school
daily..north rd parade mt pleasant....1958 fire smell burning..of plane
crash kelvin..early morning as crossing lady marg rd.....olympic torch
down there last yr crowds..cheers.....hot july sunshine... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Feb-2013
Janice - was that chewing gum
which was wrapped, and was pink, called bubbly gum? If it was I loved
it. It was good to blow bubbles in which popped as well! Got into
trouble chewing it in class at Tudor road.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 25-Feb-2013
Hi Pauline - I think the bubbly
gum was mostly pink and smelled slightly perfumed but the gum I
mentioned was mostly white or had a kind of mother-of-pearl look to it
and it didn't make bubbles - very strange stuff. Goodness knows what we
put down our throats in those days when we couldn't get 'real' sweets.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Feb-2013
I used to get bubble gum from
Goldswains near North Road School, also Spanish Wood. They also used to
sell small bottles of coloured water-forget what they called it!
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 25-Feb-2013
Janice Yes we must have been at
Dormers at the same time. I still have a brochure for the Dormers Wells
Girls School Coming of Age 1934-55 including a picture of Miss Hall.
Sorry I do not recall Frank Johnson I'm certain there were no other
Johnsons in Viking Rd at that time. As for Spanish wood I hated it.
Can't remember the dried bean or chewing gum. I did attend classes at
the Margaret North
School of Dancing she lived in Northcote Avenue I believe at No. 90 just
down from Grubins but on the other side of the road. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Feb-2013
that is rare booklet......20 yrs
dormers....my dad aunt there 1934...from west ave......dennis upton is
bk..in google..southall war......oates book..southall etc
war.......oates southall hanwell book....2013 talks £2...£4...couple hrs
..photos films etc ealing library by oates etc..librarian
speakers....june ealing and southall film studios........30 may christie
murderer oates book...southall crimes..arrested
southall pk..he had been in palace cinema...uxbridge court.....evans
mum bury ready greenford cemetery...but prison made mistake it went
islington instead....11 may oates talk 2 to 4pm..how to research your
home..street...neighbourhood.....may is community history month....... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by penny (Member 10265839) on 25-Feb-2013
Ives Newsagent also sold 1d Arrow
toffee bars, everlasting toffee strips. Who remembers Mrs Boot's
sweetshop further up Western Road? She made lovely penny ice lollies.
It was in a small parade of shops containing, I think, a hairdressers
and chemist.
Free huge fluorescent pink chunks of bubble gum were given out by
workers at the factory near Canteen Cottages. I knew 2 families living
there, Geraldine and Peter Keith who later moved to a shop next to Western Road school and Michael Harker. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Feb-2013
was canteen
pub...gone...by.then.....my wingrove family there..early yrs and had
northyde farm next to it.....gdad brother was at canteen cottages...they
were there well over 100yrs.....mr hill and couple of members here
spoke of bubble gum factory...there....so 1952...was it that the ..old
barracks orphanage was demolished..aeradio office took
over.........................heston airport the war americans gave chew gum to kids who went looking at the base.... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 26-Feb-2013
As boys we used to climb into the
old orphanage buildings by Canteen Cottages and make camps in amongst
the boxes stored there. I may still have somewhere some of the labels
produced for the coronation packs of gum. Part of the building was used
to store stage props for a theatre and we played in cinderella's coach.
It was an eerie place but that was part of the excitement. The large
rooms with fireplaces
and high windows. I can now imagine it as a dark children's home. It is
only recently that I learned of the role of the original barracks in
protecting the gunpowder stores by a dock off the canal. Further up the
lane we would pick pussy willow and explore the old Heston Aerodrome
which still had banks of the old searchlights stored there. In the field
opposite was the remains of a mounted anti aircraft gun. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Feb-2013
so interesting bill......my
family lived the common..and north hyde lane.....google and this site
lots memories...3 chapels there...aeradio.had office in one old
chapel..1958.yrs 1960 ish.....they said it was haunted...photos diagrams
maps of area..barrack row little side bit..farm orchard barrack parade
ground ..used late 50s etc for.parade .modern cadets...old orphan
drawn.diagram of rooms..so your
fireplace.high ceiling...gt info....nursery room for
babies...laundry...senior staff..jesuit priests 1858..1930
nuns..rooms..lodge..big huge trees over look.western rd bridge..painting
and photos have seen..catholic society in google newsletter photos nuns
huge christ cross statue...but BA took over 1952..labourers wrongly
demolished huge stone soldier statue war memorial 80 orphans names
died.....3 with special medals..nov 11..the dads came every yr..but 1952
it gone..with demolish...names should be on heston memorial but lots
people demand nothing done...ealing library hounslow library have
display boards..on it all.....napolion htreat 1800s yrs..gunpowder
barracks factory like hounslow heath.spur canal..brckmaking..but not
afford so.rail instead..turning hole barges at dock..diagrams etc we
have..no french threat so 1850s catholic belgium jesuits bought for 400
more kids..age 12 many shipped slave labour to canada... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Feb-2013
nice sites in google..memorabile
ephemera..the wrapper .a and bc bubble gum cricklewood.3d.old
pence..coronation etc.....uxbridge has 1940s new cafe shop..theme...tea
and sells .40s etc..items.....heston.airport..gravel
pits.brickfields..and later took gravel to make heathrow runway..dad
came back from war and enjoyed working there then to heathrow..heston
biggest hanger at the time preserved there..as
part of.sports centre..golf....pub canteen presume demolished 1950 yrs
approx..gregory farm northhyde farm..was called tently lane then
southall lane...aeradio said found tunnel..under chapel old orphanage
barracks..famous splash across the way..100yrs kids played..dock filled
in to make wentworth..was brickfields pub in the rough ground
there..convent way 1960s ish built..tall flats...very old house huge
trees at east end of wentworth..2012 demolished new flats complex there
sitting by on old hump bridge...weigh restriction iron.plaque they
took..off...canal cart s..bridge 1800 yr ..to regina rd.lots swans there
old oak now b and b...stop lock.at turning hole...but filled in...rail
track..took kiln fired bricks to canal barges...1850 to 1928 my family
there...wingrove side yrs from.1800 there.northyde..farms orchards
brickfields. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Feb-2013
I think it was common in those
days to tell kids that places were haunted, as it kept them out. Kids
were scared more easily then, and there were lots of places that adults
didn't want kids to go..
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 26-Feb-2013
So many memories listed here I
remember Heston airport and the gravel pits where we used to catch newts
with a stick, a length of cotton with a worm on the end, we would have a
jar full in no time for the school nature table. The bubble gum
factory where you would knock on a side door and they would give you a
large off cut of pink gum, one of my brothers friends would carve it
into bite size pieces
with a pocket knife. My brother had lots of friends Robert Coulter, Hugh
Lyle, Roger Hall, Colin Wills and Charlie Donovan to name a few. I
wasn't always allowed to hang out with them only when Mum made him take
me with him. We would play in the fields and on the mounds during the
day and evenings would be cricket and tin can Tommy on the green outside
the houses in Wentworth Road. My friends were Sandra Hedley,Carole
Howse and Linda Harvey we weren't allowed to bat and bowl but were
allowed to do the fielding. We would wait for the Delacreme Ice Cream
Van to come round with the lovely milky lollies in different colour
fruit stripes. Who remembers these days. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Feb-2013
yes....but..it was 1960 the new
aeradio offices there..mr hill said ..some had to work in the old chapel
part of the old orphanage which was still standing..he said on our site
that the workers said it was haunted...they did not want to go
there...said tunnel also..nearby cranford pk house tales of
haunted......barracks building 1857 to 1930s orphans from all over
london..to demolish 1952..well over
400.on the census etc......tales of bad treatment...2 men up to yrs
2010..still talk of it...drawn diagram..of ..rooms..farm..laundry
..dorms etc...couple of them fight for..restore war memorial...2
councils..told etc etc..jesuit priests had bad reputation...nuns took
over 1930s...catholic society london...told of it regularily...bill lets
us know of high windows...painting of mounds...by ham...in
library..mounds to cushion gunpowder making magazines......gravel.dug
over back.brickmaking...so as bill says aa gun on gravel mound.....rare
photo have now was taken..at gate of rec...on the common..of group 1930
women kids..with canal behind them and .mound just there...inclosure
great map of 1800...heath common..land..whole area..up to ..the now king
st.the rec and western rd part of it.....with fields across heston
airport....now lloyd sport centre and golf course.......and
farms..were.up to canal.along. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 26-Feb-2013
I was one of those kids begging
gum of the yanks, when they parked their lorrys down The Commom, with
the words. ''Got any gum chum''
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 26-Feb-2013
Sorry . The Common
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Feb-2013
cant turn right over hump bridge
..as go along common....efforts to reduce weight load over old 200yrs
brick bridge....but into regina..then turn around there........tv today
.channel 19 freeview...uxbridge ops room.layed out day churchill there
said to the few...of battle britain and .mess room raf northolt...3
geneology of 1940..pilot..waf lady plotted miss birch and joan fanshaw
spoke.grammar girls good
at maths...then beautiful blue room at northolt with young queen
painting..series find my past...uxbridge bunker open 10 to 2pm
weekdays...we went ..good......today medals.new for bomber...and for
navy russian conveys.......my cousin watford way was telephone
waf..received from her young nephew in the field..and she.dealt
with..spotting.enemy planes..war..now 99 this yr in canada..last
20yrs..southall born bred.lady... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 26-Feb-2013
Yvonne. Could you name the freeveiw channels name as the number is not always the same here in Swansea.
Thanks BOB
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Feb-2013
yes bob......it is called
yesterday.....channel 19...was 12 but now 19....find my past
series..dozen programmes have been so very good excellent....interesting
famous times people in past with 3 ..descendents now..geneology...and
whole stories told....uxbridge northolt battle britain..done.........1st
war trenches.dan snow grandfather general of the somme......mutiny
bounty..titanic..etc..geneology...families
gather today....and today.wednesday.streets
london...nottnghill...1930s40s kids..who lived poor street but now
georgean houses are revamped lived in by bankers..worth
millions...stories told.....ALSO..BBC4 CHANNEL 9..EXCELLENT..many so
very interesting programmes there....tv.................several yrs
now....also on computer see listen there on iplayer..free ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 27-Feb-2013
I have a circa 1900 postcard of
Southall High Street, at the cross roads with the old St John's church
ahead and Havelock Arms just out of sight on the left. It is interesting
to see that the finger sign post includes North Hyde. It was obviously
regarded much more as a distinct named "village" than it is now. Another
postcard of the same era shows Canalside North Hyde with children
playing. As this was the
birthplace of my great Aunt it is interesting to speculate whether one
of the girls is her. They used to run boat trips there from Uxbridge
when it was seen as a beauty spot. When I was a boy the track along to
Bulls Bridge had a pig farm alongside and there was WW2 pill box by the
bridge. I remember seeing filming by Southall Studios that included
Bulls Bridge and the pill box. When I saw the film at the cinema I had
my first lesson in film language when the characters walked past the
Junction Arms and into a completely different location that was not
Brent Road. I had some film cuttings from the studio that I picked up
off the rubbish tip adjacent to the studios. Sadly they along with my
collection of crown corks and other items disappeared as soon as I was
away from home for study. In retrospect my mum threw away hundreds of
pounds of items by todays prices but of course that is why they are rare
and have now have a value. ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Feb-2013
in google....yesterday tv channel
wikipedia........nice page info 2002 started..list of all good
programmes they have done..do...........also tv screen..bbc radio 4
extra...repeat of the best 1950s etc radio programmes.......708 channel
at tv screen..sound of radio4 extra........hancock half hour
etc.plays..radio times is good..or saturday the free tv magazines..show
it all...says uk channels....my
cousin lives far west by st davids pembrokeshire over 20 yrs
now...heston girl.....time team gt on channel 4 or channel 19..sunday at
4.25 pm..20th and final series..at northwood manor hse by
ruislip..tudor they find so much..house coins.pottery..etc.archaeology ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Feb-2013
always interesting from
bill....have the postcard kids along canal.....1900...yes my crowd local
then...gdad 10......nan local..was 10....lived that area.....junction
pub still open..film at bulls bridge and 3 bridges..bargee harry
corbett..ron barker..miriam karlin...photos on our board..good southall
film studio site in google......have some photos high st 1900......dont
think this one....sign to
northhyde.junction hav pub and st john......yes village hamlets...way
back...1900 king prussia pub .had to change its name 1st war to
victory..king st before was called denmark rd..duncot lane was tentlow
rd..heathen lane was western rd only heath pubs there..southall green
lane..before south rd became called...nans family baptism
records..southall green.hamlet 1802......1900 postcard.sign
northhyde..st john..have got most .may not this one..the only way..is
to.send it scanned..via .private email friends reunited..or if you put
your bits on a free flickr.we can see it there...I have 3 photos old st
john.corner..dozen of high st..1900yrs..high st mean king st..not
uxbridge rd high st..have dozen of that also..... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Feb-2013
mr meads lifetime southall booklet here photos...died 1982 elderly....king st co op.1905 bank...photo..
http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/southall830/page32.html
in google..many pages photos etc..yrs southall ..southall green ..old southall...over the other side...
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 27-Feb-2013
thank you Yvonne.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Feb-2013
Yvonne-I have been thumbing
through the pages of the RJ Meads document for the war years. For 1944
it records that the War Office on behalf of Cramic Engineering, 13 boys
from Southall Tech were recruited to help with an urgent contract.I was
one of the 13-had forgotten about it over the years, now it has all come
flooding back.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Feb-2013
how amazing ..gt mike.....mr
meads is good.....not many towns have many pages booklet like southall
by him....we are lucky...colin.gave us lots of meads and.also.southall
local social history society of 1960.....on line in google...ive
family....
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 28-Feb-2013
In my above entry it should read 33 boys.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Mar-2013
1963 ......big freeze....bbc
tv..was on again last night..buses trains...etc..waters frozen
over....we were all out all day in it..1963....but pinch punch no
returns.1st month...spring peeping through now...milder...daffs
up.....award winning well known irishman boyne book we had ...was on
bbc4 last night boy pajamas..unique idea..putting unusual slant on
things...so well acted by the two boy children....germany
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Mar-2013
Although I don't remember Harris
Pawnbrokers at the top of Abbotts road, in R.J.Mead's 830-1982, I do
remember there were always three brass balls hanging over a shop just
before you got to Avenue road in the High street. Can anyone remember
what shop this was over? I know Bradbury's the Jewellers was along
there, but can't remember the Pawnbrokers.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Mar-2013
just that always remember bus
coming ..into west ealing..shops....1st bit of shops...on left north
side.....on corner dark old shop...3 brass balls hanging high..at shop
front..pawnbroke..1950s 60s...many many yrs there................old.2nd
hand furniture opposite ..on corner south side.......through hanwell on
bus..uxbridge rd...rspca..south side tall old house...photo on our
board.....there many
yrs...............thanks roy just found your 1943 dormers leaving good
record certificate.....new photos board35 and 27/26 etc... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Mar-2013
In the old days many people could
not read or write so recognised shop signs hung outside shops to
signify the trade going on at that location. Nearly all of these have
disappeared now but barbers red/white striped pole you still see
occasionally. The 3 brass balls was the universally recognised sign
for pawnbrokers and I think only someone with a pawnbroker's license
could use it.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Mar-2013
yes and it was in top corner of
the old corner shop...brass balls..many yrs..west ealing..first bit of
shops...as you go in...north west.....after the big stone mason
house..open front..lawn of stone for headstones.......red white barber
stripe twist pole...in conserved village chalfont st giles...still there
2013...shop there ..thatched cottages...by harefield middx.......blood
barber ..old surgeons....sweenie
todd touring country gt success..michael ball...musical show....st
pauls cheapside with all the ..swinging...signs..hanging...going back to
guilds liveries..city licence.......banks etc... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Mar-2013
Yes, were still some old signs
around in the early '60s. Martins Bank used grasshopper sign outside
all their branches until they got taken over by Barclays again in the
60s.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Mar-2013
yes one old bank east side south
rd..southall our photo with..hanging..sign....now 5 pm today
evacuees..going train...by jack rosenthal...he wrote some corrie...his
wife maureen lipman...excellent script...gt acting......crowds kids
school being taken off .gas masks etc..tin corn beef..mum visits them
once month..she works munitions....luggage label brown pin to lapel
jacket....name...wave caps as
they go...train...chug....steam.....sing song...poor old michael
finnigan...begin again...ha......gt today mild 2 mths snow drop
drifts..yellow crocus out....and couple daffs in yellow bloom....swans
flying over head...lake canal..ducks frisky..gulls.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Mar-2013
CHANNEL 19 CALLED yesterday
channel..hour evacuees..today.....new film...march...itv...our
queen..whole yr..at olympics etc....they asked princess ann if ok ask
queen jump helicopter bond spoof...ann though hilarious...queen said
yes......love state banquets windsor castle waterloo room....seen
tv...gt.....itv march wil l be....2013coronation yr...black car to
abbey..for june service queen....street parties no doubt... ... more >>
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
PAULINE..RON.....my god just got
northcote pub 1909..road etc..will get it on flickr later with
others..rare..lucky..board 5 photo yellow brown orangey northcote
pub..I.got over 2 yrs ago from camra pub site they email attach sent me
only one they had 1950 and older yrs..rare was so lucky to get that
favourite one..never know who little girl in front was walking over huge
cellar wood double open doors
for horse barrels deliver .fullers...rich smell when I walked by..front
cellar hatch pavement..ha..uncle george in front public bar playing
dominoes..pt bitter. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Mar-2013
Look forward to seeing it Yvonne.
Although it's good to see the photo on Southallboard5 all yellowy, I
can't say I ever remember seeing it that colour. Mind you, we left
Northcote Avenue in 1952. I bet that Northcote Arms could tell some
tales! One of the oldest customers I remember as a young girl, was a Mrs
Squires who would always be in the Off-licence in the evenings. She was
always dressed completely
in black, and always wore a black bonnet tied underneath her chin. I
think they used to drink something called "Porter" and the Landlord used
to put a hot poker in the drink sometimes. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
thats
interesting..landlord.....yes 50s type of photo..browny yellow.....in
the 50s 60s ..we had fuji film camera...funny colours when 1st
started.....and old camera film..of 40s 50s..colour 1st ones....think
they were bit browny yellow......good for the pub society for sending me
that one......listed building edwardian 1907.pub...but fires....they
will have to build new.....hotel or elderly home.....they
say.....not like my motherin law colour tv..when 1st colour...so kept
my .monochrome ..b/w....but tony got colour tuned in well and at last we
got ..colour...so lucky today gt camera men..animal plants scenery...gt
colour....myself at bbc tv..when we went over to colour..tint sheets
across the huge ceiling lights in..roof studios..our dear ..much
loved...circle building goes this yr...now....most at salford manchester
media centre new dock water area there.....tv..if they manage to get
the london celebreties..interviews etc....up there everytime......all
loved our london white city..complex..shepherds bush.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
squeezed them on board
28........board2..board5 also.....mrs squires....is not rare
surname...but grandaughter diane did ballet dance to high standard
southall as a girl.went to dormers.born 1949...of the son
..squires...grandmother 1950s..living at council house...golflinks
estate front section...faraday .telford....went to her terraced house
far back right corner...behind little parade of shop..behind
the green...1960 grandma squires would be elderly....off dormers wells
lane.easterly.....right side behind snells farm..far back corner council
house estate..triangle green.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
1937 yrs
pubs..landlords..northcote.william john lewis...smiles at railway hotel
became glassy pub...beehive was pavis....oliver wells at white hart high
st....buck at wagon horses near hayes bridge...drake at hamborough
taven.....standley at white swan king st........carr at red lion high
st......arthur george newman at george dragon high st..gone
now..........photos board28....and photo rare white
lion gas wks white st..sweeney filming at pub photos..our board....buck
landlord 1937................1914 northcote arms..john harry
gerard....1933 tom george beare..............northcote has xmas
club..1950s and before...save of customers..payed for barrel beer in
kitchen..big families..turkey etc.......beaconsfield arms 63 west end
rd...gone now........................tudor rose was other early colour
photos...came back from develope chemist funny tint colour....cameras
were cheap also...1950 my cousin developed his own b/w or tint
colour...in loft west ave...made dark room..1960s so did tony have dark
room as kid in loft photo develop....but tony at npl.teddington
developed in prof dark room..for scientists....his job from 6th form
grammar... ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Mar-2013
The licensee of The Plough in North Road for quite a while pre-war was named Buck. Any connection???
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
enoch edward buck......plough
north rd.1933 1937 directories......often 2 brothers did pubs..dylis
husband family.boot..couple at pubs........by cousin 1913 his gdad old
north star by canal northhyde...1914 uxbridge 3 brothers and their dad
publicans..all went war..died..cousin gdad died of wounds...nov
1918..towards end...queen windsor just gone in hosp stomach bug 86.best
wish her....
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
wagon horses south side...nice
garden..uxbridge rd up by hayes bridge southall...alfred buck.....easily
be brothers...lots were....1926 1933 1937 directories post
office......ancestry free index in google is great for electoral
roles...year name etc....busy pm..tony job needs postcard sketch black
white theme...ha..got lumbered...zebra crossing belisha beacon piano
keyboard and print abbey road in corner ..ha..neat but zanny sketch doing..ha ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
gt photo sky strange news
page...guard door hosp...ton tall ..ton titch..5ft 6 smallest in met
police ton tall 7ft 2..tallest ....queen 5ft 4...3pm sunday car to
london hosp..drip..2days approx..gastro..routine....best wishes to
her..87 april.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/pageviewer.asp?fn=0000cj2y.tif&dn=EAL20007tif&zoom=s
free on line 1914.post off directory..
dennis grubham the father at corner shop..northcote ave..number
61.......alfred stride at 82 northcote ave west side....84 was last
house...rest not built.....same on east side 79 last house.....rest not
built..towards canal ..pub there built 1907/8..photo 1909 on
our board28...and other boards....horse wagon .probably delivery going
along...terraced rpw edwardian houses...to broadway...called new
broadway.... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Mar-2013
I noticed in West End Road yesterday the Beaconsfield Arms has now been demolished
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Mar-2013
relative my family tree lived
west end rd..........photoin google..beaconsfield pub..number 63...photo
of it gone aug 2010....end of cream painted house...then ...high boards
across...empty space then...usually build housing................good
in google kevan dead pubs..info....then enter southall
etc..........photos etc...suppose 2013 northcote pub still the same
boarded...yrs now await...see what they do....
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 21-Mar-2013
Reflecting back on my time in Northcote Ave, made me think of the Saturday morning errand to buy bread.
The independent and plant bakeries in the West London area were:-
Southall - Prices, Fowlers, the bakers on the corner of Regina Rd,the
bakers by the Bowling alley and the one at the Northolt end of Lady
Margaret Rd. There were also branch shops for Lists, Parkers,
Harringtons and a Hayes bakery that had shops in North Parade and Lady Margret Rd.
Other plant bakeries in the area were Garners 7X, Nevilles, Harringtons and Chibnalls. ... more >>
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by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 22-Mar-2013
The bakery I remember on North
parade and Lady Margaret was Belfields. My friends mum worked there and
used to give us a cake each from any that were over at the end of the
day.
Any bread over was sold cheaper, ideal for bread pudding. Bread didn't keep in those days. Not full of preservatives like now.
- Re: Northcote Avenue
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 24-Mar-2013
Dillys thanks for reminding me,
that it was Bellfields. As a Bakery Technologist I was always impressed
by the quality and flavour of their products. Whenever I was in the area
working or visiting Mum, I would call into their shops.
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Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 16-Feb-2013
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Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle? Whenever
it came to the end of the Gibbs SR Toothpaste, Mum would would go
outside to the hand mangle & get the very last drop of toothpaste
out of it. Waste not want not. I must say the plastic tubes they have
these days are not as good to extrude every last drop out of.
- Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2013
the gadget on the top of the
saradine pilchard tin.......turns a tight roll of the tin back..... did
see a little turning once on toothpaste tube...and of couse southall
gordon rd area tube..factory toothpaste....tubes.......macleans,,,was gt
deco building...gt west rd....to beechams...across rd..their building
got taken by rank..films..with beecham lucozade next to it...2013 modern
glass new buildings huge gt west rd now..flyover...from heathrow...a4... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2013
fab last night.bbc tv....be on
computer digital..50 yrs beatles 12 hrs .abbey rd north london..making
please please me album.all gt hits...tony .myself...each got a
copy...the blend of their voices drums ringo..song writing..polish of
george martin...top stars.there recreated the gt day and songs....mangle
we had out back..1928 to 1961...go through twice..sheets nearly...dry
lots water out of them..to
tall long..length back garden.washing line...figure eight..twist line
around to raise it...wind blew.with tall prop....tv they are all going
back to their childhood home....epstein now ....last
week..couple..celebrities went back..in house etc...fascinating.... ... more >>
- Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 16-Feb-2013
Mention of the old fashioned mangle, reminds me of a boyhood incident. Mum kept the mangle in a shed adjacent to the house.
On one occasion, when I was playing, I got
some old newspapers.soaked then in water, then put them through the
mangle. This produced a thin sheet of material. Unfortunately it left
the rollers stained black. I was not popular!!
- Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Feb-2013
I can remember using salt to
clean our teeth during WW11. I can't remember when toothpaste started. I
know I liked toothpaste the best.
- Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Feb-2013
Thinking about it, I can remember
my dad telling us that they used to use soot to clean their teeth. Mind
you, that would have been before 1914-1918 war.
- Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 16-Feb-2013
There is so much air in
toothpaste tubes these days that recently, I wrote to Colgate and
complained about it. They sent me £4 in coupons
- Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 16-Feb-2013
Sorry Yvonne. It was Bill Eydon
playing drums on the Beatles records. He and Micky Waller played also on
the Stones records. Micky Waller was taught by The Great Jim Marshall.
Bill Eydon regulary played modern jazz in The White Hart..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2013
thanks just telling my
husband...we both..had beatles etc records...bill...lots in
google.....if you want to see good...sunday night..11.15 pm..beatles 1st
album.abbey rd...50th aniversary..please please me....12 hr
session..they arrived ..and technicians noticed how they did not stop
for lunch..worked 12 hrs..gt hits......channel freeview...bbc4..or
digital on computer.....so enjoyed it...bill taught
drums ealing..in his obituary died last yr or so,,,,he said..drummed on
some pop group sessions........some of beatles......tv has liverpool
with cavern and liverpool scene.....great breakthrough....beatles and
others did........epstein.here..george martin....my aunt worked emi
hayes....decca..the beginning yrs....facinating........bill...did work
as a session drummer....nice amount in google....famous marshall at
hanwell..gazette said going to put blue plaque.....paul and john..speak
well on the sunday tv...programme......we liked the beatles films
also.....and pauls concerts he does...gt.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2013
bit tired for reading google..out
lovely spring day today...but says bill..died 2004 oct.isleworth...his
obituary...and he wrote about sessions.....continued play jazz and
taught drums at some ealing schools.......born hounslow 1930 ...good
man..........hutnell ..everybody at abbey rd 50 th celebration.... the
current stars sang gt beatles hits...on sunday 11.15 pm..tv
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 16-Feb-2013
Yvonne. What was Bills surname?
Was it Dean? I dont like the fact that groups get all the credit when
they haven't played on the recording, Bill Eydon probably got about £12
for a three hour session. Jim Marshall had two shops in Hanwell. then
one in Ealing Broadway.He used to live at 32 Lonsdale rd Southall.And he
had 26 drum students at one time, that he taught from his two up two
down terraced house. Many going on to professional careers.The drum studio was covered in egg boxes to muffle the sound. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2013
in google got.william james
eyden.born 4 may 1930.....got him with harry dean stanton and bernie
taupin..on whiter shade of pale........the gt photo cover 1963..please
please me.is over the balcony...back of album ccover published and
on..wikipedia......copies the published credits on back of
cover.....george martin arrange....andy white played drum..on 2
songs...love me do and ps love you.........ringo
say..on boys...ringo played drums..on all other songs and .other things
that he used......andy white in google...did sessions for
some..artists.....yes google has marshall southall and his
dad.......tony does not like jazz a gt deal.....but we liked the
barbicam london when 1st opened.by st pauls..tony had drums as a
kid........free lunchtime huge foyer session.....ronnie scott was there
jokes...played etc...couple hrs..and he put his famous drummer to
us...wow...went on on...amaze..drums...got huge applause...but
mamagement changed and weekend barbican ended...whole package of
beatles...and teenage...massive whole thing....was turning points..... ... more >>
- Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 17-Feb-2013
The earliest toothpaste i can remember is Macleans.
- Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Feb-2013
read that the macleans factory
was on corner..ealing rd junction gt west rd.....I worked there and saw
gradual..move...out to cuntryside leatherhead,,,leaving offices..more
so..at gt west rd...lucozade factory .cola etc..still there 1970...we
had tunnel there under rd..to restaurant..staff shop...over on south
side.we had free samples..etc...plain tubes.mcleans..from the
labs.........aggers on desert island disc..radio 4 ..now....tony and his dad lifetime love of cricket...... ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 17-Feb-2013
I remember Kolynos
- Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 17-Feb-2013
I remember we had tins of Gibbs
toothpaste which contained paste in a solid block in a round flat tin.
By the time my brothers had finished grinding their wet toothbrushes
into the block to make a paste nobody else felt like using it!
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 17-Feb-2013
I used to work at Parke, Davis on
the Staines Road in Hounslow, and their Euthymol toothpaste was one of
the nastiest toothpastes that I've ever had the misfortune to use.
- Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 17-Feb-2013
Remember my father, when he had
somewhere important to go, putting his hand up the chimney to get soot
to mix with salt to clean his teeth.
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by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 17-Feb-2013
The paste was pink and came in a
round tin.I was hard stuff so you couldent realy call it paste as you
had to wet it to get it on your brush
- Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 17-Feb-2013
Talk of toothpaste inevitably
reminds me of the school dentist. When I started school in 1933, the
school dentist was based at Featherstone Road. Later it moved into a
medical centre that had been part of North Road Infants School. The
dentist was a Scottish lady, who I understand remained there until her
retirement
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Feb-2013
Keith i think we all
remember North Road dentist i only had 1 tooth out there but i
do not think i have bleed as much i my life
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 18-Feb-2013
Harping back to Jim Marshall.
The reason his amps had and still have a roar sound, is the fact that he used good old fashion valves.
One Island resident that continued to use Marshall Amps was the great
Jet Harris, until his death Sadly Jim has passed away also.
Jet continued touring and performing until a few weeks before his death.
He was well liked on the Island and always filled the theatres here.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Feb-2013
we see ..hear of isle wight
festival...thats night..often we have had holidays..over there..so thats
2 of you..our members here..isle wight....many yrs now...dee
haigh...her mum..and her went..dee plays good part over there......her
dad mayor southall 1957 ish.....haigh..picture frame family..by canal
..norwood bridge..of old..norwood flour mill..history..few yrs now in
the news about mr marshall..the
stars..musicians..speak so well of him.....the council and english
heritage are doing blue plaque...gazette did couple good articles..lots
ingoogle..... ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 18-Feb-2013
Jet Harris knew Southall, he used
to visit His relatives in Clarence Street. and Ken Bran who Jim
Marshall owed everything to, lived on the airport estate. The Ringway
Heston.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Feb-2013
ringway has got a chat info
site...on our short page..here on our site...my family 1850 to
1958..were north star cottage..demolished by ba.to build employees
houses ringway just there...gdad brother got chucked out they were al
born in cottage..he died 1/2 yrs after......sad richard briers just died
good life.bbc comedy.filmed northwood houses by ruislip...gt lenin
cockrell on our buses..photos our flickr board..gt theatre london of mr briers... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Feb-2013
I just went to Hampton for the
weekend. Still nice there, but Hanworth, Feltham, Cranford, Hounslow
> UGH!!. If I leave Sussex and come back to London, it will very
likely be Hampton
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Feb-2013
hampton ct gt day out..daffs in
spring..lakes and flower show..was gt ....ham house also
lovely..richmond pk into..richmond high st...kew gdns.....bushy pk diana
ftn,,and tonys old job at npl...not always easy parking areas.....did
the buses .long way.though..
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 19-Feb-2013
What a small world it is, I did
not know that Jet (Terrance) Harris had family like I, living in
Clarence Street. This could have been another topic of conversation the
times our paths crossed over here. In the 1960's I worked with his first
wife Carol; Uncle Danny, who was the night baker at Cliffords of
Heston.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Feb-2013
mike....................just got
message from..lady born 1934 burns ave......static water tank..by snells
farm..war...they got butter there.....burns..police was george
southall.....war salvage lorry came round..mayor..rewarded
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Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
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by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 8-Feb-2013
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When I was a small child in the late 40s, my mum got her veg in the
greengrocers on the Green and next door to it was a horse meat shop. I
can remember the men carrying the carcases into the shop but don't
remember seeing any customers. Mum used the Co-op butchers and there was
always a queue. Meat was on ration and there was not a lot of choice.
There were lots of rabbits hanging up, which still
had their fur on (I think they skinned them for you). We had rabbit
quite alot as it was not rationed. We didn't have horse meat, though. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2013
my aunt used to get pieces
rabbit...stew casserole..was nice..with dumplings.....expect butcher
would get it ..but dont see it much today..few small bone
bits......chicken capon before turkey became.....gdad..his yrs from
1890s to 1940s.....would catch a wild brown rabbit..for the
pot...southall....veg out of the garden his neat rows annually grown...
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Feb-2013
I remember the Horse meat shop
Tom over the Green in the late thirties. Although I lived the other side
of the Green, we were always over there when we walked to the Manor
House to see what was going on. I remember the carcasses hanging up
outside the shop with the yellow fat very prominent. It always made me
shudder.As for the rabbits, I can remember seeing my mum skinning one
while I sat and watched
her in the kitchen. She always used to casserole them with a piece of
belly of pork.I loved it. Like you, we never ever ate horse meat though. ... more >>
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2013
was it not...meat from..australia
new zealand argentina..scotland etc...for all years....war ration.less
of everything......then...eec getting..stronger control and now french
polish custom...of many yrs..they..use horse......so factories sell to
uk.or via ireland...said may be able to have them with law..as ..deceit
not say horse on pack.imply beef..dishonest.deceit..
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 8-Feb-2013
I remember zig zag queues outside
the shop. which decreased as meat got more plentyful,the sign outside
said it was for human consumption. The owner was Bill Clegg who lived in
Wentworth road.My father used to train his greyhounds to race at
Southall and Harlington race tracks. All the dogs were fed horse meat.
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 8-Feb-2013
Whilst working at Walls Meat Company in Hayes 1976 I saw mutton being added to beef sausages.
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 8-Feb-2013
I remember the horse meat shop in
The Green too. I'm sure my Mum never bought anything there, but a lot
of people must have done so. We also had rabbit back then, and I've even
bought it when we were first married and made a nice casserole with it.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2013
you dont hear of it so
much....other towns.....probably southall.....because...such long
history of the horse mkt..had contacts..from there...history goes
back..so many yr cattle .etc.southall mkt animals.2nd only to
london..southall with the uxbridge rd there...and old white hart pub
opposite...forecourt...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2013
you dont hear of it so
much....other towns.....probably southall.....because...such long
history of the horse mkt..had contacts..from there...history goes
back..so many yr cattle .etc.southall mkt animals.2nd only to
london..southall with the uxbridge rd there...and old white hart pub
opposite...forecourt...
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 9-Feb-2013
My Grandmother would often cook Rabbit stew for me & I loved it. I still cook it but these days I use this recipe :-
BUNNY STEW
1 rabbit (about 1.8kg)
3 tablespoons plain flour seasoned with salt & pepper, 1 tablespoon olive oil 1 onion, chopped
4 cloves garlic squashed, 2 rashers of bacon, rind removed, chopped into rough strips
8 baby carrots, topped and tailed Mixed fresh herbs (parsley, oregano
& thyme could use sage as well) and a bay leaf 250m1 dry white wine,
125m1 water & 375 ml chicken stock.
Preheat the oven to 150°C. Joint the rabbit into six pieces. chop the
saddle at both ends (remove the leathery extremities of the saddle) and
then separate the four legs. Dust with flour. Heat the oil in a
stainless ovenproof saucepan over high heat. Add the rabbit in batches
and get it well browned. This will take about 7-10 minutes. If things
start to burn, lower the heat to medium. Remove the bunny and set aside.
Add the onion, garlic and bacon to the pan and cook for 3-4 minutes
until the onion and bacon have taken on a bit of colour. Return the
rabbit to the pan with the carrots and herbs. Stir it around, pour on
the white wine and top up the pan with the stock. The level of liquid
should just cover the rabbit. Bring to the boil, pop the lid on, and put
in the oven until the meat is just starting to come away from the bone
(about 2, hours). Serve with mashed potato or couscous and roasted baby
beetroots and Brussels sprouts. Serves 4
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Feb-2013
thats nice fred..1960s my aunt
was getting...pieces prepared rabbit from butcher..for stew was
nice.....and hearts.lamb...she used to stuff..sage onion and
bake....always hot and roast dinner every night..after..travelling
home..all out..day.....today they
say..news...europe..recession....making profit cost cutting......these
processed..foods pack..meat....horse costs less than beef..factories france
poland..using horse..but pack implies beef.....so factory gets
profit..keep them going in recession times...dna now...big
supermkts....going to dna..all their packed..buying in
items.........100%horse not beef of findus.dna found.9mths ago findus
knew....france.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Feb-2013
they would prefer to buy kidney
seperate..chop up butcher beef,steak..and fresh steak kidney pie...hot
dinner every night..main enjoy of day after long bus or tube train
journey or walk home..all weathers...money went on rent and good
food...not silly luxuries....board 54 25 24...our photos new..with
sainsbury.old..marble tops..wires cut cheese wood pat butter.....today
fresh meat counter supermkt...he
minced his beef steak and sells 4 at time..good price
beefburgers..liver bacon nice...fish counter next to it
.salmon..prawns..etc lovely all the fish....car pk at good supermkt shop
once week...fresh good quality veg.nice staff chat to.........have seen
europe..dairy and meat etc..over decades.not the quality control and
expectations.of uk..many decades.......crime.at uk..uk are seeking.about
this.from europe.......my cousin top manager 1970 to now quality
control uk...high reputations..ofte in uk.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Feb-2013
TODAYS GAZETTE.....photo gazette
1935 sat oct 13,,,amazing scenes...10000 crowd boys climbed trees///top
of coffee house next to victory pub..and the roof fell in.....gracie
fields opened new art deco dominion cinema cafe ballroom.....lots photos
our flickr boards......len said he was 10 yrs old down there....gracie
had to escape in police van..avoid crowd..police hat got knocked
off...robeson was
film....photo..of featherstone hall..grand house then asylum..was at
site/..wall knocked down for road widening..1962 became bingo 1982
demolished now art centre.meet place..ealing broadwat cinema has started
after yrs wait building site..now..facade kept... ... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 9-Feb-2013
Do you mean the Ealing Gazette,
Yvonne? If so which part? I am not a regular reader of it online and
perhaps you can post the exact link to the photos please.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Feb-2013
http://www.flickr.com/photos/69365331@N08/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45101643@N04/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/89207625@N06/
47
first one
54
there are 54 boards photos.flickr southallboard photostream
for 3 yrs now.but.mid march front many ones have to come off leaving 200....they gave new yr gift of extra temporarily
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Feb-2013
ealing gazette...then they have
southall.hayes.greenford.editions..but similar in each....southall feb 8
2013.photos dominion..and featherstone hall huge gentry mansion hse was
on site before..became asylum..and photo of saturday amazing
scenes.dominion opening from archive 1935..len was there as a
kid..1935..10000 crowd..200 tiles came off by victory pub roof nobody
injured....retro every week yrs
now.page 18..by james gates..he is historian for them..working with
prof librarian oates at ealing local history library ealing broadway for
southall..huge photo etc etc archive there paintings of southall
etc..retro west london.for about 10 yrs or more weekly page photos in
gazette ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Feb-2013
photo on that nice carpet sweep
staircase in dominion.of gracie and 1935 partner..he looks the capri one
or the one beore..art deco..interiors on our boards..many enjoy..for
nearly 4 yrs now..loads of viewings..nice comments there by southallians
of southall green..mondat 14 oct.evening in sat 19th gazette.streets
blocked people fainted...some of my family would have gone..getting
married that yr and
youngest was 10....4pm crowds started arrive for evening opening.photo
gracie huge bouquet.evening dress....bromige designed building.at road
widening..our flickr..to go to each board quickly..click.sign ,out..then
sign in.click..then click.different user..and when they are in your
memory.up comes each board and click... ... more >>
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by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 10-Feb-2013
I used to go to ABC Saturday
morning club had lots of fun. When we got older we became Monitors &
were allowed to go to pics for free one day a week when U films were on
got front row seats in the Balcony felt very Grand. Remember going to
afternoon tea on one of my early courting days. Remember the ice cream
girls selling small boxes of ice cream chocs not for long though anyone
else remember this.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Feb-2013
I remember going to the Dominion with dad to see the Dam Busters i think 1955/56
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Feb-2013
yes gazette talks of abc
there....ron brewer donkey..took kids there....fabulous carpet .stairs
deco..interiors...lyons maid icecream...dambusters good film brits made
the best......all on tv.so many yrs has helped......in google use as
index..for flickr photos..local areas..southall greenford ealing hayes
hanwell..etc.northhyde heston...in google 282 bus at old covered mkt
greenford windmill lane
.and 47 board comes..up.....all yrs all areas..nearly 4 yrs
collection..added..weekly...50% goes middle march...they..have to take
off......dominion southall..in google..... ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 11-Feb-2013
Yes Sandy, i was a A B C monitor
to,Felt very cocky wearing my monitors badge.the Dominion was a plush
cinema, with its long settees in the foyer and all carpeted. and a
distintive smell(wish we had a spell checker) We were suppose to keep
the rest of the kids in order,but they really needed someone to keep us
in order. Do i know you Sandy? I lived top of Regina Rd, opposite the
green near Old Oak Bridge,we used to hang out in Southall Rec. ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 11-Feb-2013
Dont remember Ron Brewer going to the Dominion. He seemed to always be in the TheGem.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Feb-2013
thanks bob..the gem..older cinema
just along a bit...such shame..they have kept that listed
architecture..deco..into.flats now.was nightclub.same white
facade....but..the photos our board of beautiful dominion..elabourate
doors..thick carpet..ballroom to left...tower with deco 20s
30s..curved...fronts...pulled it all down..open..gate brick entrance now
into...a centre...used for ..all things....new
building....in google type dominion...our photos come up of ..projector
room..interiors...ron in google says about his pen for donkeys down
norw green...barry said he had them over by cranford area also....regina
bridge canal..huge complex new flats opened.end of 2012...on site of
bridge.hill the old house huge trees.by wentworth rd start...so flats
look at oak pub now.which is..b and b.to keep it going ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Feb-2013
the odeon cinema uxbridge rd..was
full saturday mornings...back and front rows of kids..2
films..cartoons..sweet shop..next to entrance stairs into.cinema..lads
sneaked in sides free....boo.calls if film broke...screen went up.words
of.sing song..clementine..song...etc..ice cream usherettes in uniform
with torch....ha went to see les mis..last month..and couple of the
audience came in with their own
torches...ha...just to climb up stairs.tickets seat
number..£6.70..whole..day out..reasonable..costs millions the film....in
front of lovely screen...several wheelchair section..thick..saphire
blue carpet..new chairs...audience applauded end film...it was so
good..well done..amazing work..gt orchestra etc.etc.. ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 11-Feb-2013
Watching the goodies and the baddies. Hooray ------Booo. P S. Found spell checker
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Feb-2013
I also loved the Odeon on
Saturday mornings. I used to take my brother who was five years younger
than me. As soon as he was old enough, he went with his friends. I
remember the kids standing on the seats and rocking bakwards and
forwards before the film started. The bit I always remembered was when
the Baddies were creeping up on the Goodies, and someone would shout out
"Look out Mister". Wonderful days in a lovely little town. ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Feb-2013
I think rabbit meat was never
rationed as Governments wanted to reduce rabbit population due to them
eating our food crops in wartime. . . After the war, people didn't want
to eat rabbit so they "had to" introduce myxamatosis to try and keep
rabbit numbers under control.
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Feb-2013
Pauline-I also used to go to the
Odeon on Saturday mornings. There used to be an Odeon song-"Every
Saturday morning, where do er go,
getting into mischief Oh dear no etc."
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 11-Feb-2013
I can say the only time I may have eaten horse meat knowingly was in a "beef burger" in Brussels, as it was strong tasting.
Reading these memories of other meats, I have not had the following for
years. Tripe and Onions with Mash and Butterbeans, Stuffed Lamb Hearts,
Breast of Lamb, Rabbit, Skirt and Bacon Badger.
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Feb-2013
Michael
There was a song at the Granada Greenford too.
"We're the Greenford Grenadiers"
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Feb-2013
You are right Michael about the song at the Odeon. I will now give you the whole song:
We come along on Saturday morning
Greeting everybody with a smile
We come along on Saturday morning
Knowing it's well worth while
Every Saturday morning where do we go?
Getting into mischief
Oh dear no
We come along on Saturday morning
Greeting everybody with a smile smile smile
Greeting everybody with a smile!
I feel better after that little sing song as it takes me back over 70 years ago! ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Feb-2013
gt song......odeon uxbridge rd
they put the curtain board up we had to sing the westernsongs..could
girls sing louder than boys..or each side..sing..1937 gracie fields
opened granada and their famous organ.1935 she opened dominion,,,mr
thompson...yes my aunt born 1914...talked of tripe onion.s......jellied
eels...brain..cooked....old days......
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Feb-2013
Like you Thompson, I haven't
eaten these foods for years - Tripe & Onions (which my dear old
mother-in-law used to make) Stuffed Sheeps Hearts, Stuffed Breast of
Lamb, Steak & Kidney Pudding, Brawn which I used to make from half a
Pig's head, and Pigs' Trotters. To think we used to fight over these
Trotters when we were kids! As Dell Boy would say "Lovely Jubbly".
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Feb-2013
sunday tea at west ave 1950s and
before...was cold meat bread butter....braun...from.pig sheep.head..ox
tongue..trotters and jelly yes...cranford lane was piggery yrs behind
the old rural workers cottages..mine..had every bit of pig..at hard
times.....breakfast bacon..blood black pudding and mushrooms from over
brookside by spikes bridge...all the different..sea food from.van
outside northcote pub..whelks.winkles
etc.....but these eastern block..over europe....to ireland factory..to
english supermkts..if criminals..good many yrs doing.it.cheap horse
with..pharmaceutical..chemical can be in it..they are checking hosp and
school vunerable age groups..dna not easy they have gone on trust
but......fresh meat butcher supermkt has lovely tender lamb heart gt
sage onion stuffing bake..and his own burgers.from freshbeef
steak..liver bacon.. ... more >>
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by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 11-Feb-2013
High Bob don't think I know you lived in Osterley Park Rd. The ABC song was
We are the boys & girls well known as the Minors of the ABC
& Every Saturday all line up to see the films we love & Shout aloud with Glee.
We love to Laugh and have a sing song
such a happy crowd are weeee
Were all pals together were Minors of the ABC.
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Feb-2013
Wasn't the Greenford Grenadiers sung to the tune of The British Grenadiers?
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 12-Feb-2013
I used to go to Saturday Morning
Pictures at the Odeon with my brothers - they sat with the rough lot!
The song that stays in my mind is Clementine whose feet "were number 9,
herring boxes without soxes, sandals were for Clementine".
I'm feeling hungry reading about all the various meats we used to eat. I
never got to like rabbit though, never tried trotters but have eaten,
and enjoyed, most other
items mentioned. I preferred pigs hearts as they weren't so fatty as
lambs hearts but I loved, and still do love, lambs liver. My
mother-in-law (now long gone) used to sometimes roast half an ox heart
in a very slow oven, sliced thinly and you'd never know it wasn't
topside of beef. She also cooked stuffed breasts of lamb which, at that
time, cost 3d each! ... more >>
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 12-Feb-2013
Just remembered that my father
loved tripe & onions, soft cod roes on toast (yuk!), kippers and
bloaters - both parents loved brawn made from half a pig's head. I loved
kippers but they don't seem to have much to eat on them, nor taste the
same, these days.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Feb-2013
Oh! I'd forgotten all about the
Cods Roes on toast Janice. I loved them. Never liked Lambs Liver, we
always had Pigs Liver. As for Kippers, I agree with you that they're not
the same now. The best ones we ever had was when we went on a coach
tour to Scotland. Their kippers tasted like the ones we used to get
years ago. I'd forgotten my mum used to make a suet roll with bacon and
stuffing in. It was
delicious. Never needed any food caddies in our house in those days as
every scrap of food was eaten, and if anyone left anything my brothers
would always clear it up.
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Feb-2013
war comes and just after
war....and the old..foods....go out of fashion......odeon uxbridge
rd...the curain huge board had the words go up for song...clementine
etc...just shows how many,,decades of kids..enjoyed interlude..half
time...singing...cartoons were great......how long were we there.....10
am to 12 pm..cant remember..tanner to go in..tanner for sweets..my aunt
was usherette ..she gave me
and cousin choc ice....torch she had gt..fun..no torch today....but
..some..last week brought their own torch to go upstairs try see seat
number...d6...etc..numbered rows...standard...or special premium
seats..couple wheelchair spaces like the london theatres have
also.....applause from audience ..was good film..did we have god save
queen....at sometimes...let alone early tv ending with dot fading and
national anthem//// ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Feb-2013
Talking about fish has remnded me
when I went to stay with my aunt in Acton during the war after leaving
the Scarlet Fever hospital, as we used to call it. She dished up a
breakfast of Sprats one day, which I'd never had before, and while she
was out in the kitchen, I ate the lot, heads, tails, everything. The
aunts never let me forget it! My uncle turned up at the hospital in his
taxi, as he was a taxi driver. The first one I'd ever been in! ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Feb-2013
Mum used to make suet pudding with bacon i think it was boiled in a cloth
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Feb-2013
Yes, Denis you're right. It was
boiled in a cloth, like the jam roly poly, the spotted dick and the
treacle pudding. The steak and kidney pudding was always cooked in a
basin. I still cooked it until the sixties. I think a lot of us, like
me, gave it up because of the suet putting on weight. Having said that I
still cook low fat suet dumplings in my casseroles.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Feb-2013
Yes Fred
It was the same marching song with the same wordsl think but "Greenford"
replaced "British". . I don't know why Saturday morning pictures
suddenly went out of favour so quickly. In 1954 everbody went and just
5 years later they were finished
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Feb-2013
keep eye on the water in the
pan..steam..away..and room to grabe the basin out..or put a strap around
it.....we went to ideal home..1970..saw demonstration..pressure
cooker....bought them ever since....everything cooks gt..puddings..earls
court closes soo..to become flats....olympia still there.....treacle
pudding...always seemed in cupbaord decades.lyle
tate.golden.tin.......3rd series..being worked on this yr..midwife bbc tv...10th march last episode of..2nd series...new big book out by bbc of it....
... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Feb-2013
Yes, Prestige Pressure Cookers.
I've had them all my married life. Wonderful time savers. I changed my
Aluminium one for a Stainless Steel one years ago. All Christmas
Puddings done in them, but not now though with the family all gone. I
loved cooking raw Beetroots in them, but now you can buy them already
cooked in packs, but not in vinegar.
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Feb-2013
yes stainless ones.tonys dad grew
loads of beet..locally...his mum cooking them in kitchen....those
fridge freezers came in and she froze loads of his dads.garden grown
veg..but in shed..homemade wine..edler berry etc..parsnip..too much
sugar..wow explosion once..ha...
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Feb-2013
I think the Saturday morning
pictures continued a bit after 1959 Keith because I was only born in
1950 and certainly was going to pictures until at least 1962 & my
brother who was 4 years younger went after that but I agree that it was a
shame they disappeared.
Pauline, have you ever tried roasted beetroots? They are great as part
of a roast dinner. As to kippers it is very rare to see them in Aust
& I always have them when I go to England. The best Steak &
Kidney Pudding was cooked by my Aunty Queenie (Stubbs nee Millard) who
used to live in Havelock Rd in the sixties and we were supposed to be
going over for her 90th this year but alas she died 2 months ago. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Feb-2013
Fred - No, I can't say I have ever tasted roasted beetroots. Will have to try it one day.
I'm sorry your Auntie Queenie has died, but at least you have some nice
memories of her.I'm sure you're right about the Saturday morning
pictures though. The best fish breakfast I ever ate in this country was
when we were holidaying in Mevagissey many years ago, and the Mackerel
came in straight off the boat that morning. It was delicious. ... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Feb-2013
I love Mevagissey & have done
ever since we went on a family holiday to stay on a farm in St Austell
in about 1961 I suppose. I've been back a few times & it still has
so much charm.
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Feb-2013
the numbers of us who have been
mevagis..mousehole..st austell..all cornwall is amazing..because so
gt....new domes at staustell.greenhouse effect.....they keep having beet
as vegeable now....sausage mash and side of hot beetroot....google has
loads people using sat morn pictures..going on lots of years..60s etc...
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 13-Feb-2013
With all this current scare
regarding prepared meals, perhaps we can get back to the good old ways
of cooking from scratch at home.
As a bakery technologist it saddens me that even in supermarkets a lot
of the speciality breads are brought in frozen and baked on site. Only
some lines are made from scratch instore.
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by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 13-Feb-2013
Mentioning Fever Hospital I
remember having scarlet Fever at age of six. Was sent to Hillingdon
Fever Hospital (St. Johns) opposite RAF Uxbridge for six weeks. I hated
it not allowed to touch Mum & Dad could only speak through window
very frightening at that age did not understand what was going on. They
thought I had contracted Polio as ther was a young boy in there with it
but turned out to be Chicken
Pox so I had two thing at once. Remember My school books & desk
were fumigated. It has just come back to bite me have Had severe
Shingles all down left leg thigh etc. started November 11th leg is still
not working properly as main nerve was affected. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
TAKE CARE SHINGLES...MY AUNT HAD
IT..BEST WISHES..interesting to know it was opposite
raf,,,,,,,hillingdon church redlion pub village uxbridge rd...the big
hospital..hillingdon hospital..down the lane there......not much room
there now opposite raf.....huge roundabout...huge civic centre st
andrews church......so the hospital fever ..would have gone....uxbridge
could not cope isolation they built..willow
tree bankside off yeading as hospital...1900s 1920 30.....raf gone
now..houses complex built there last couple yrs...bunker hq
.ops..war....open to the public museum there......uxbridge corner.west
side...entrance to the ..modern high st now.....couple photos old
uxbridge cottage hospital on our boards.flickr.. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Feb-2013
Sorry to hear about your shingles
Sandy. I have had it, but not so long as you, and not in my leg.Hope it
gets better soon. I remember all of our bedclothes being fumigated when
we all went into the Scarlet Fever hospital. I was in the same ward as
my baby brother, and I used to get him out of his cot and cuddle him
till he went to sleep. The second time I went in with suspected
diphtheria, but it
wasn't. That time the war was on and all the windows were sandbagged
with tape acroass them. Our mum used to stand outside, and you couldn't
hear what she was saying.
... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Feb-2013
I was in Southall Isolation
hospital with Scarlet Fever at the time of the 1938 Munich Crisis. They
sandbagged the windows then. I also recall parents trying to talk to me
through the windows.
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
amazing articles in google
http://www.ruislip.co.uk/diphtheria/index.htm
fever hospital st john....parents at windows...and so
much..there..memories...1935 and years....hillingdon church tall tower
uxbridge rd st john baptist..8 bells......
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Feb-2013
FRED - When you were holidaying
at Mevagissey, do you remember the Fishermen bringing in Sharks they had
caught to the Harbour and hanging them up and weighing them. It was
quite an occasion for the visitors, as a bell was rung several times and
everyone would congregate as they knew what it was. I seem to remember
there was a chart on the wall somewhere where the weight of the sharks
was recorded, and there
were some really big whoppers! I also remember the wonderful bread that
was baked every morning in a little bakery, and there was a queue to buy
it before it ran out. ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Feb-2013
Fred
Cannotbe sure but l do think Granada Greenford Saturday morning pics
closed before some of the other local cinemas as they were doing other
stuff on the site (was it wrestling? and 10 pin bowling?) in the early
60s as they developed that arcade along that bit of the Greenford Road.
I think the Playhouse had closed even a year or so before that.
Does anyone remember what the cinema in Cherrington Road Hanwell was called, and when it shut?? I know that one was a very early closure 1954?? ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
photo..curzon cinema..hanwell our
flickr board54....one of the older cinemas..that rd...was called..the
grand before........1960s..became warehouse...1967 ealing council in
google says becoming flats...off the broadway..same rd had school
dentist..............acton..had big corner cinema..uxbridge rd.....used
to see,,,,,the high streets from the top of uxbridge rd bus....west
ealing..by lido cinema..ealing broadway now being..rebuilt...southall dominion ..gem..palace.....and odeon..uxbridge rd.. ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 13-Feb-2013
Working for the bakery machine
company that supplied all the Tescos stores with the automated machines
to produce instore bread. We had huge problems to make the machines
produce the bread to Tescos recipe. We said Tescos were trying to make
water stand up.
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Feb-2013
Yes, I remember the old cinema in
Hanwell was a cigarette wholesalers warehouse for very many years. I
THINK their name was "P. Panto & Co.". Greenford cinemas closed
next (Playhouse, then Granada), then the Southall ones
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
yes the 60s photo of it.....says
panto...posters over it players...no 6.....benson hedges.........king
size.......bollywood kept southall going in 1990 ish...ealing
broadway..multiscreen....being ..rebuilt now to new screens.....uxbridge
odeon....moved from.old high st..into chimes....modern
esculators..screens odeon uxbridge..shop mall......james bond ..50th
yr...got all the awards...london..often
filmed thames etc.....gt photos hanwell..our board ealing film
1960...carry constable...around hanwell west ealing south
ealing...roads.....our flickr..board...youtube in google....maps hanwell
all yrs our flickr boards..etc.... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Feb-2013
Thanks Yvonne > > > I do have problems getting flikr
Please could you let me know exactly how I find that flikr board with
Hanwell photos as I've never seen this. I am not very good at
computers so need easy instructions. Ta.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
very often using google..as
index..is quick..easy.....type curzon cinema.hanwell....keep trying
index.entries...flickr southall photostream hanwell......hanwell is on
most of the 54 boards...all areas....each board..all yrs...over the last
4 yrs added......50% go..in march....they gave free extra space...for 3
mths
only..................www.flickr.com........southallboard54@yahoo.co.uk.....each
number gives 200
photos...53...52,.,50...etc......will keep trying to help...let me know
...if you have luck..precious rare items on there........local
facebooks.they.keep alive every day....people chat from a photo...before
they did that..facebook..chat places local.died.closed down..lack of
comments....picture tells thousand words..maps etc as well.... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Feb-2013
Whatever I try, I still end up with board 48, but that was interesting enough
One photo was very old map and it showed something l mentioned on here
about a year ago > >"Old ROAD" extended Trumpers Way Hanwell
across the canal to Osterley Park before the railway was built. Old
road goes straight to park wall then dead ended, but the you see road
other side of park going to Cranford. This is what my Dad told me 60 years ago, but I had no proof until I saw this map on board 48 tonight, so thank you for that Yvonne ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
WAS PLEASED WITH THAT MAP...JUST
FINISHED .TOP OF MY TREE.GENEOLOGY....CHURCH RECORDS THEY WERE 1780
ONWARDS NORWOOD GREEN....LABOURERS......AND .MY GOODNESS THEY MOVED
ABOUT...JOBS..DWELLINGS..AS MOST DID...MARRIED ST MARY EALING.....THE
SHORT CUT FOR WORKERS BACK..WOULD BE ACROSS TO BOSTON MANOR...TRUMPERS
WAY..ACROSS CANAL..TO...EDGE OSTERLEY...INTO.NORWOOD
GREEN....OTHERS.WERE WORKING...THROUGH
FERN LANE.......AND OVER TO MKT GARDENS...HARMONDSWORTH ..ETC....MUD
TRACKS...AT 48 YOU CAN CLICK SIGN OUT AND SIGN IN AGAIN ..DIFFERENT
USER..CLICK.....AND ..TYPE
SOUTHALLBOARD54@YAHOO.CO.UK..id...MIDDLESEX54.IS PASSWORD....ONCE YOU
HAVE...THE FLICKR ..IN YOUR COMPUTER MEMORY...PAULINE
DYLIS..MYSELF..QUICK JUST GOES BETWEEN....DENIS
..RON..LEN.FRED.ZETA..THOMPSON..MEMBERS HAVE ALL USED....CURZON TO TUDOR
CINEMA CLOSED 1955..WAREHOUSE..YR 2000 FLATS THERE...OPENED
1911....CLOSED WITH TOMMY TRINDER REX HARRISON........HIGH ST ST JOSEPH
HANWELL...IN GOOGLE BRINGS HANWELL.......CUCKOO SCHOOL CHARLIE
CHAPLIN......VIADUCT......ALL INDEX WORDS INTO GOOGLE...BRENT BUNNY
PARK...ETC... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Feb-2013
Keith -When I tapped into "Curzon
Cinema Hanwell" it gives a wonderful picture of the Curzon Hanwell,
Cherington road and Church road (initially referred to as broadway
initially called Grand Cinema, then it gives all the dates when it
opened and closed, ending with "closed 1955 became a warehouse". Hope
this helps you.
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
just parker bread shop gone on
board54...black vitrolite chrome shopfront..one at hanwell....as we had
southall.maps going all yrs...1950s 30s ..back to rocques..down barn
etc...subjects spoken of over.the last 4 yrs..photos there to
cover.....brentford site in google several yrs now....families..each
decade..going back...docks canal....high st..etc...my norwood
green...went age 20..canal..to brentford..strand
green chiswick did apprentice..got city london
licence...lighterman...london docks.....older man he bought pub..then
another...but age 71 came back..to southall died..left fortune
probate..shared......records have all the lightermen barges
cargo..brentford...1860s..1912...ships..great trade... ... more >>
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
fred.....................you
asked.........today bbc news...isolated..community lancashire..just
dug..cabled up their own broadband..40km or something fibre optic
cable......the dial registered fastest.possible...connected digital
cable.... on line now chat to relatives abroad..volunteers..farmers wife
retired.was IT manager at local school...did it themselves..fed up with
waiting....
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Feb-2013
Pauline >still no luck. I obviously have a different search engine, and so I've still not seen board 54
But it did come up with another Flikr board photo that I've never seen
> > it is of 3 Bridges, and there a train pulling wagons of LYONS
TEA up from Brentford Docks, a barge thay is loaded with Lyons Tea going
over the train, and over all this, three steam lorries are loaded with
Lyons Tea heading over the bridges towards where AEC factory was. A very interesting photo ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Feb-2013
THOMPSON - You're right about the
bread baked in store nowadays. Years ago, I lived in Langley, and there
was a fantastic bakers shop called Rhymes who baked his own bread. When
I had visitors from abroad I gave them some of this bread, and they
couldn't eat enough of it. They said they couldn't get bread like this
in their country. When I moved out of Langley and bought bread at the
Supermarkets it just wasn't the same. Nowadays I don't buy white bread at all and just stick to Warburtons Seeded Batch. It's lovely! ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
yes lovely photo 3 bridges
lyons....curzon tudor cinema on board48 now...and parkers...bread
shop....so many of us said was gt.....54 different boards..so many good
photos...amazing...such interest and nostalgia etc..collection..of
4yrs....
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Feb-2013
Keith - This is from Google under "Curzon Cinema Hanwell"
Cherington road and Church road (later referred to as broadway)
initially called Grand Cinema. Rebuilt 1933 802 seats. Then closed 26th
January 1946. Re-opened 28th March 1946 as Curzon. Then became the Tudor
in 1951. (proprietors Essay Surburban Cinemas) Now with 866 seats.
Closed in 1955 playing "the constant husband and "the black rider". Became a warehouse. It gave a lovely picture of the Warehouse in the 1960's.
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
thats lovely...rex harrison
film..closed on..1911 think built...the old ones..like walpole ealing
broadway 1911/12....gem southall green 1911yrs......the more modern
1930s ones..built.came alive........then..modern times..we have the
multiscreen..ones....
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
thought saw kids leaflet ...when
at odeon..last month.....google has it...£1.kids.and one adult free.mum
or dad...all weekends...and all during school holidays.....kids
cinema........new cinemas built during last 10 yrs and more...very
luxurious clean..comfortable..gt screen..seats..carpet..and wheel chair
section....and ..oscar film.s...the best ones are wonderful...high
standard......cost millions..so
inexpensive day out............seems 40 approx yrs the other ones
closed...1911..after many yrs
closed.....1936.new.ones..1960s..changed.....70s nice one at ealing
broadway on uxbridge rd and acton high st..and uxbridge..1970s
onwards...tv ..videos..etc.take hold..etc ... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Feb-2013
Keith, I hope this helps. When I
want to view a different board, I log out of both flickr & Yahoo and
then log in to the next board I want to view e.g. southallboard50 using
the appropriate passwords.
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Feb-2013
Oh & I should add that once at a particular board
you should make a shortcut to it so you can get to it easily next time.
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Feb-2013
Thank you all
I didn't know l had to log in via Yahoo > nobody said! But I've
seen the photos now and Wow!, what memories they brought back. I was
really Hanwell and Greenford, not Southall, but the nostalgia was
incredible. I've lived in west Sussex nearly 40 years now, but seeing
those pictures has made me think of going back. I have no affiliation
with Sussex any more, and although
Arundel is a nice place to live, people are very nosey here and I'm
beginning to think that there is "too much" community if you can
understand what I mean. I used to love Hanwell so much in the 1950s
when l was young. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
lots hanwell board48...etc...yes
..log out log in..different user click...and if you have the list of
boards on your memory....but click yes want to keep.....then scroll
click another board...4 yrs of 54...200 each board photos maps items
etc......gift from flickr..extras for 3 mths only...so...they go
...march...50%..will...go ..save your favourites your own memory
interests....keep for always...in
your.own..save it...folder......glad you like...facebooks go mad
daily..loving...photos 40 comments on each
photo..local...sites...picture paints thousand words......flickr...4 yr
ago ones have had 300 more viewings....that is just went they click to
enlarge..so double that really.....len put comment of lovely at hayes
town hall 30s...xmas and he sadly passed away by spring approx...glad he
enjoyed...... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Feb-2013
It was good to see Hanwell cinema photo at last
I only ever remember it as the warehouse for P. PANTO & Co., a
company that no longer exists today. Never saw anyone ever go in or
out of that place, seemed very odd as if there was nobody there.
Was told that when it was open it was known as the 'flea-pit' in Hanwell
and one rumour we kids had heard was that it had been shut down because
of fleas!!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
says shut 1955 of open
1911....they all of that age.early electric cinemas theatres...hear were
known as flea pit..walpole ealing broadway and gem southall.green...of
same age ..know by many most as flea pit...good that the new 1936/7
opened..many places....
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Feb-2013
Keith i think the Gem on the Green Southall was know as the bug hutch.
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Feb-2013
barry of lifelong
hayes.....member here said of couple very old hayes cinemas.....nickname
flea pit........4 yrs closed uxbridge rd cinema ealing
broadway.....xmas changed to another builder and ...it seems to be
started now...large area going back to walpole park..they want cinema
restaurant complex..linked..to...and to ealing film
studios..heritage...dr who photos our board filmed ealing broadway
and white lion pub gas works.southall green .pub and straight..photos
our board...50 yrs episode they celebrate with all the doctors brought
back digital etc....dickens..complex.ealing broadway few yrs now..behind
..old town hall...modern...new...hmv on corner was bentalls...being
redeveloped....more photos on board48...etc.. ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Feb-2013
I've now had a good look at a lot of the photos
Being that I moved to Sussex in 1976, there has been a lot of info and
knowledge to absorb. There are also a lot of photos of the 1976 era,
so some of those photos are of places exactly as I last saw them. I am
glad there is evidence of what l said about Trumpers Way, and one of
the Trumpers Crossing station signs actually says "for Osterley Park".
That was particularly good to see. I think that was once an old
"drove" road, but the enclosure of Osterley Park effectively killed it
off. I do remember that even until about 1953, people thought they were
"in the country" when you got west of Greenford, and only half of the
buses went on to Ruislip then. Yeading nearly all scrubland and farms.
Down Barns trackway one of the oldest roads in Britain ran Salisbury
Plain to Norfolk ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Feb-2013
down barn..maps..etc..on
boards....drove rd..yes feel sure my nans family..going back to 1780
norwood green.....used whole area ealingrd..mkt gardens..fruit
etc..south ealing areas....branches of the tree are also..ealing rd..old
brentford......across to norwood green........then 1850s..fern
lane...across to harmondsworth.........seeing church image pages amazed
to see how they .treked..mud paths..work
etc.....hayes church botwell into cranford lane.......new canal coming
in 1797 years...they are at northhhyde southall green...brickfields
etc..collected all maps info...could...the old wood churches decayed
1867...most were rebuilt....hard working people...some..did
well...took.on greengrocer shops...heston..uxbridge..and became mkt
gardeners...brentford mkt...etc...my gdad ..went 1900s uxbridge rd
produce to covent gdn.....cousin had 4 brothers uxbridge publicans went
1914 war all died...mr trumper ...in google...owner land...warren...to
osterley...brudge across brent river canal...read
loads...interesting......so the family tree..still local to ..modern
times....also... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Feb-2013
When I was reading some more of
Mr R.J.Mead's book "Growing up with Southall from 1904" I came across
this piece of his writing during the first WW1 - August 1918, and I
thought of you Keith.
"There was no law enforcing a black-out, and no air-raid shelters. One
Saturday evening I had been with my brother to the "Grand" Cinema,
Hanwell, and just as we came out about 10.30 the air-raid alarm sounded.
A searchlight mounted on a tram went into action, and gradually made
its way along to Shepherds Bush. We had to walk all the way home and
guns could be heard in the distance". The war ended three months later. ... more >>
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Feb-2013
Thank you
I don't know much about WW1 but am aware of a lot going on WWII. There
was a anti-aircraft gun based on top Horsenden Hill I think. Perivale
was important and there were houses (one occupied by a german refugee)
bombed north Hanwell near Cuckoo Schools, as railway targetted near
Castlebar rather than Hanwell viaduct which would have been more obvious
target. Spy was seen sending torch
messages to Luftwaffe one night there Castlebar fields and he got away.
Ickenham (Swakeleys House perhaps) was meant to have major military
use, but plans were abandoned. Part of reason for trolleybus
abandonment 1960/62 was fear of total travel disruption if cold war
developed and one bomb could have shut down entire system causing chaos.
Cold war really worried everyone, particularly politicians as like 1939,
we were not ready yet again. Now surplus military places like Eastcote
sold off to raise cash, but there were lots of them until 60's (one in
Oldfield Lane I think). All sorts of things going on and most
forgotten these days except by historians like yourself. Structure of
UK has collapsed now as people reject values of earlier years and no
community spirit left. Village Halls and community centres falling
derelict and wanted by developers to build "flats" for fast buck.
... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Feb-2013
Thanks for that Keith. Most interesting.
- Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Feb-2013
It is forgotten now that railway
through Castlebar was of vital strategic importance during WWII as it
was link to many different regions. Until 1963 was FAR more important
as a freight route than for passengers as line runs beyond Greenford to
Wycombe, Banbury and the midlands, plus there was a ling to the Great
Central via Woodford Halse. In the 50s as a boy l remember long
freight trains queueing up one after the other on this line in the evenings, all with goods from the north. It was a VERY busy route ... more >>
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- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2013
yes noticed it...over last
months.......you see aec..ironbridge......greenford
rd....1928...yrs....hayes factories..from above.....rail canal....loads
.that site....1928..northolt...ponyrace track..there......areial over
southall park..1928 1930.....
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 2-Feb-2013
I have put quite a few blue flags on there but there's room for a lot more
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2013
LYONS TEA ETC OF GREENFORD..NEAR
CANAL...is clear there...1928 before lot of greenford and high st got
built..empty areas there.........we have 1930s photos building western
ave on our flickr.....1928...sure yeading brookside was
there...canal....bulls bridge..aerial
photos...site.....nestle......heston...there...1928
1930...begin..airport..areas....1928 brentford should be interesting
thames wharfs docks..lock canal.....hanwell asylum..is there..should be viaduct...and all ealing areas..... ... more >>
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 2-Feb-2013
Have you seen latest photos of gasometer and Dudley road
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2013
thankyou...they must have put
those on in last few weeks......amazing gas holder...looking right down
on top of it aerial 1931...mike went up there with his parent those
early yrs 6 old pence...think the money went...to the new southall
norwood hospital..by manor park.......maypole there..rubastic...heston
gypsy moth.....chiswick works buses ..think thats where they queued up
stores to get their uniforms......asylum...and
steam train going over iron bridge 1930..scott emulsion....we have on
our flickr photos german aerial map photos taken over aec..armoured
vehicles made for war....german writing on their pilots documents...we
have copy of....reconnaisance they knew where everything was but thank
god...not precision bombing like today.......so derley rd..western
rd.southall.football...must be at aerial...somewhere......park gt now
snow gone snow drops up .sweep under trees to water....mole hills
though....crowds swans canada geese.moorhens coots. ... more >>
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2013
MAYPOLE THERE.tall thin chimney
around 1930 yrs..aerial.....my cousin dad worked there 40 yrs...his
uncle aec ..lifetime..draughtsman..lived allendale.........where did
your dad work......heston there gypsy moth...................uxbridge
high st...uxbridge rd hayes hillingdon....1928/30...northolt western
ave..aladdin building..made lamps...became bq..now furniture shop...
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by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 3-Feb-2013
Many thanks for the web address
of Britain from the Air. It is really extremely interesting to see the
1920 green field where my childhood home in Brent Road was built in
1934. I think that I have a press cutting somewhere reporting the
building of the gas holder. My father's proud boast was that he jumped
from the top of the gas holder without any parachute or safety line. He
would then reveal that it was when the top was on the ground at the start of the building process. ... more >>
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2013
jump off..thats good...did he
say..some went up for 6 old pence......r t warren built some of the 20s
30s 40s houses...wimpey built on some of the green fields greenford..in
aerial...1928 1930s.......brent rd..and
canal...clear.....rail..factories..there of 1928 1930....
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2013
country file is lovely
bbc.programme...new terminal 2 heathrow...old one replaced...richmond
park..trees......and lorries bringing..wood chip..to heathrow..20per
cent of the electric.for heating.....lovely modern terminal
2.....hillingdon..borough..electoral.roll.vote.about.3 rd
runway.expansion.. mar 2013
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2013
2.45 TODAY....DENIS....OSTERLEY
PK..HOME..GUARD....RE=INACTMENT..DAYS THEY HAVE...BBC2..TV..........JUST
FOUND...NEW OLD PHOTO IRON BRIDGE SOUTHALL..RURAL BOTH SIDES..OLD
UXBRIDGE RD..NEVER SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE..board50..flickr..reel
history...films..there on tv..osterley pk....training films..
- Re: Southall and the UK
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Feb-2013
Thanks Yvonne shame was out
sorry to have missed it, trying to get dads Home Guard
record but it seems all H/G records still held by the M.O.D
not Kew
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2013
THE LONDON MIDDX ARCHIVE MIGHT
HELP..YOU...at 40 northampton row...north of st pauls...off farringdon
station.....they have so much of middx
..there.......lma.................he had bbc van at
steps..osterley..house...cinema film in side......dozen vets
there........borough hunslow do..reinactment days there....home
guard..uniforms ..weapons etc..........1912 ...2 photos iron bridge
board50......gdad just
married...took..from..norwood green..horse...cart wagon..produce..to
covent garden through there 1912......stop viaduct pub liquid
breakfast..... ... more >>
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2013
bound to be on iplayer
computer....reel history of britain..bbc2..ww2 episode......got gdad for
1st time...nov 2012...mt aunts dad..nan would love to have seen
it...too.late....free ancestry week..1st war records...some with burnt
singe...the ..store was by blyth rd hayes got bombed huge fire...2nd
war....lots papers on gdad ..so pleased..read ok....enlist from
northhyde..the common..southall..wife
3 babies born...enlist southall king st......went hounslow
barracks..fuselliers...coastal defence training..by my holidays...up
near gt yarmouth..yr there 1st war of bad bombing there.........foot leg
treated daily mths....ulcers broke open..from kid they worked
brickfields...dangerous..foot leg...damage...broke open on 12 hr war
training army......he worked manager foreman at rt warren house
building...20s 30s...so that was better for him..warren thought highly
of him..to 1948 died 52.... woodbine cigs.....west ave..his 2 sons went
italy 2nd war ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Feb-2013
Thanks will try that, says MOD records on very few personnel and little info on the records there are
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2013
in google.................says
national archive kew....has started to digitalise...home
guard.......durham done 40000.......there are 4.5 million....1940 to
1945..served....cant believe ..got gdad on ancestry was free week
nov......about half dozen pages.....he walked..5 mins to king st..office
there....then army as most local..went hounslow barracks
fuselliers......1st war....wish could have shown
it to ...his close family...too late....had tattoos....never knew
that....builder...manual work...........very dark hair moustache...we
knew...nans brother.blown to bits arras.....fuselliers tower
london...archivist...told me all info ship portsmouth to
lehavre...etc..4.50 am..went over top..barbed wire,,but found not cut.
etc....not before 1961..so too late to tell nan..all.....they knew
nothing back at heston village...or southall green hamlet....... ... more >>
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by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 5-Feb-2013
Thank you for the information
about the Middlesex Regiment. I have six months of diary for the second
battle of Ypres that was written by my grandfather in the trenches
there. I would like to see the Middlesex Regimental diary for that time
to tie up some information. I have been able to obtain a number of
correct spellings for place names from the online Australian WW1
website. There is also some
interesting video on the site, including a view of no mans land with
abandoned bicycles. One great uncle was in the cycling corps. Burnt
records can be found on Ancestry for my grandfather and the one great
uncle. I cannot find records for another great uncle although addresses
and military numbers in the diary give some clues. My scottish
grandfather on my mother's side is a total mystery although I remember a
couple of his tales from the trenches. All very intriguing. My father
was in the Gasworks Home Guard and trained at Osterley. He still had his
Colt 45 at home when I was a boy. I used to play with it and the
bullets without his knowledge. It was eventually thrown into the canal. ... more >>
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2013
the training..high wall is still
at osterley...have put photos on our board and denis....his visit he put
photos......over back osterley field by windmill lane opposite hare
hounds pub......back path in....to back of lake..horses there......film
.in google of reinactments...several yrs done there.....dont think of
bikes...open top buses rail..march .etc....so many excellent tv
documentaries yes saw
bikes.....went to menin gate........my nan brother arras..his cousins at
somme came back...but 2nd war got blown to bits off bike ..buzz
bomb..on his way to work 1944 heston.....cousin had 4 brothers war .his
gdad died near last day 1918...4 publicans from uxbridge......regiment
hq archivist give help..fuselliers..tower london was
good...territorials.....my gdad papers ..on ..ancestry site were black
singed.....records archive store was at hayes..blyth rd..but bombed in
2nd war...they tried hard put out flames....save records.......many
gone.....kew has them now...... ... more >>
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2013
commonwealth war graves...in
google...email or letter...they send you free photos..of
..cemetery...name...etc...memorial..1st war..france dept..take photo for
you....post to you...we have nice collection of nans brother.got.7 more
yrs ago.........heston church stone carved by alter their names..and in
road soldier statue..memorial annual service his name
carvedthere....family.3 generations..and more ..born bred norwood green and heston... ... more >>
- Re: Southall and the UK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2013
mr meads book....says harry
...lived..near snells..ewers farm...off dormers wells lane...119 dormers
lane lived..twyman..so many yrs...local social history
society.......lovely detached large houses dormers lane....flickr
photostream 24...has collection..illustrations by ..harry....his
photo....allotments...by snells farm.....then lane to...greenford rd
bunny park...mill pond..woods stream....school
playground of lane ...dormers juniors..next infants nursery.......that
long lane was rough in fog..to bus stop...up top....uxbridge
rd...wait...queue....get off odeon cinema..or ..butlers.tailor mens
shop.......or later grapes pub yeading lane hayes....thrupenny bit...or 3
halfpence......fares..... ... more >>
- Re: Southall and the UK
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 28-May-2013
Reading the Daily Telegraph at the weekend and noticed Frair House, Norwood Green on the market for £1.9 million
I knew Haley Mills lived there with the actor Lawson who is now married
to Twiggy. Haley sold it to the comedian / actress Tracy Ultman. Did not
know that the son of Selfidges founder also lived there.
You just keep on learning.
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Rabbits, Rabbits, Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits,White Rabbits
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Feb-2013
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Rabbits, Rabbits, Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits.
I still find myself saying this aloud before I speak to anyone first
thing in the morning on the first day of the month. I remember my mother
telling us all about this when we lived in Northcote Avenue. It was
supposed to bring us good luck, and my goodness we needed it in those
days. I know I told my children, but I doubt if the
grandchildren have carried it on. I used to think, as a child, that it
had something to do with "Alice in Wonderland" and the White Rabbit,
butI don't think it did. It amazes me that lots of people still say it,
including me. I wonder where it did originate? ... more >>
- Re: Rabbits, Rabbits, Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits,White Rabbits
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
little rabbit..model held always
says lucky charm........pinch punch 1st of the
month.......31..1..13....was 2013..backwards forwards...dogs or rabbits
pets..last night programme..gt by clunes on dogs...helping..sense
smell.sight..hearing..wonderful programme....pack love of theirs..human
and lamb..they see as their family.....our friend does dogs for
hearing...then the wonderful ones for blind...etc..
- Re: Rabbits, Rabbits, Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits,White Rabbits
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 1-Feb-2013
Or: a pinch and a kick for being so quick!
- Re: Rabbits, Rabbits, Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits,White Rabbits
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
pinch punch..no returns.....says
say rabbit 3 times..before speaking..am...goes back 1400s...white
witch..devon...they saw rabbit as witch....says..say hare 3 times..when
go to bed then rabbit 3 times..when wake up..good luck..before mth
ends......in print..in the 1900...folklore............rabbits
foot...actors stroke one before go on stage....
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New Year Greetings
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 18-Jan-2013
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January brings the snow, makes our face and fingers glow! Here in WsM
was have getting on for 3 inches of the white stuff and still falling.
Still, it's not too late to wish you all a Happy and Healthy New Year is
it? Hopefully, we'll all have many more interesting memories and
subjects to write about tbroughout the year.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2013
yes keep memories
nostalgia..great interests coming....we see your weston..on tv...all the
time take care ice......all over country..now....pretty at window but
wind chill factor...keep warm...happy new yr all......kids have
fun...off school or such....photos spikes bridge pk..1970s on our boards
and 60s canal frozen on our flickr..photos...
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Jan-2013
It's been very hard feeding all
the masses of birds all waiting in the trees, etc yesterday. As fast as I
cleared spaces in the snow to put the food down, the snow was covering
it all up again. Today, is easier, as there is no snow falling. However,
the Fat Balls in the container were all frozen hard, so the birds
couldn't peck them. So crunched up fat balls on the ground today.There
were countless
blackbirds all fighting for their share of the cheese,so I cut it in
small chunks so they could just grab a bit and fly off. The sultanas
also disappeared, as did the Atora shredded suet and the halved apples.
The other small birds on the bird table shared black sunflower seeds,
peanut granules, dove & pheasant bantam mix, while the chaffinches
had their nuts, shared with the two jays! Phew - now I'm going to have a
cup of tea and a biscuit! ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jan-2013
you take care yourself my
dear..not too much out in it...cant see too bad ice worry yet..but never
know....oh..yes cheese..robins..love..gt favourite...2pm fri...one
redwing......once yr only...when snow on branches..wild dog rose goes up
red hips....says come from scandinavia.....may be sunday monday not
too.bad..can never tell......next weekend is rspb survey..online
etc...best wishes everybody..this cold..
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jan-2013
1963 big freeze cliff michelmore
archive...today 5.30 bbc2 tv..photos our board irin bridge..spikes pk
etc..greenford motorbike museum snow yesterday...midwife starts tommorow
tv..david niven//a favourite as is parky..wonderful interviews tv
today..flynn...suet beef.atora..in kitchen..for dumplings..gt now..hope
fluffy...tony just spotted..woodpecker down trunk tree red head greeny
front...once twice every
yr now..gets insects under bark..tap tap beak.upright..not drumming
today..woodpigeon there too so has chased away..snow melting a
bit...green woodpecker he think.photo..hancock on 708 radio 4 tv.daily.. ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 19-Jan-2013
I NEVER throw food away. Birds
cannot read sell-by dates. Just put out some Christmas brandy butter,
and all eaten by birds within minutes. They are starving and need
everything swept from the food table as well as out of date stuff from
the cupboard.
Rescued a 2005 Christmas pudding from a house clearance last weekend,
Warmed it up for 20 secs in the microwave, chopped it up, and it was the first meal some birds had had in days ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jan-2013
well done...bbc 2 film of big
freeze 1963 said gt many birds creatures died ..but recovered numbers
later..iplayer on computer also...freeze brentford to
birmingham.canal..photography..boxing day to march..1947 and 1940
also...blizzards..richmond pk dear ..more than 3 times extra food put
out....high black zip boots came in ..and ..black
thick..tights.....thick long scarf...no slacks then..hard buses
.journey there back daily..starlings sparrows usually fed on grain..but
were eating..themselves........cliff michelmore said..also ruislip lido
ski.sport on ice.1963 film...tea tray kids slide.....1963 roads
..electric..coal...rail...hard time...we have 1963 and others photos our
flickr boards....rivers froze..dover..solent..were frozen parts..1963
heathrow bad ba lost loads money...hope we never have bad as 63
again..... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Jan-2013
Good for you Keith i never
throw food away if buy it & dont like it i eat it or
put it out for the birds who usually eat it
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jan-2013
lovely bbc..country file.....snow
whipsnade park..or near swindon cotswold zoo park......the 30 yr old
elephants..trunk scoop up snow and eat it..ha...lovely..animals of hot
asia india..but hardy used to cold nights of native.....1963 bbc film
yesterday tv..sheep died.big freeze..richmond pk..they gave deer triple
extra feed.......local photos our boards 48..etc..flickr...red
squirrel..etc lovely.on
winterwatch bbc tv.cameras lens men so patient good filming
today.....white sky looks like more up there...famous filming of swoosh
huge batches of starlings..like famous over brighton pier..midwife new
series today..so good..1950s.....minus 3 9am tomorrow..at the least..so
ice underneath...be careful...who has dogs ..herts new dog ball
competition game from usa..wagging tail dogs love it...flyball.julia
matt bbc ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2013
usual wren many yrs now..call it
old round brown penny...small always for insects up at window
pots.......so knocked off snow let him get at them...ha..pair
robins.blackbird still ok..seagulls.early today.....sunday..northala..up
from top lady marg rd.by western ave...hills from..old wembley
stadium.demolished .stuff ..made high hills..photo s..sunday .board
50..views allenby water tower etc.lots play
up on top..snow...torch there olympics was boris becker..july hot
day..old hundreds yrs old smith farm.there..yesterday did nans gran..she
was at over 100yrs old by canal passingham farm northhyde
1841..baptised st mary hayes botwell...crowds worked 1832..years...ice
take care...1950s.midwife excellent tv last night selfridge..and ice
dance....e. ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Jan-2013
wren was on old farthings, not on pennies > >
Farthings last made 1956 and demonetised 1960. After that prices went up much faster
Always used to be elevenpence farthing for a loaf as bread prices were controlled well into early 1950s
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 21-Jan-2013
Yes The wren was on the farthing. Four farthings to the old penny. Two halfpennies to the penny.
Good picture of farthing on Are you an old face from Southall.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Jan-2013
By 1960 Farthings cost more to
make due to value of metal in coin etc than face value. I think bread
price was controlled by law well into mid 1950s and List's bakers
Greenford & West Ealing always eleven pence farthing for large split
tin loaf, but went up to 1/3d within days afterwards.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2013
oh yes....wren on farthing..time
of guinea..as well.....no..our wren visits often my pots..for
insects....I always...think of him as round brown..little tip of
tail...so I think of him as large old penny shape..........my goodness
the yrs we used old pennies....and schools..pound shilling
pence.....just call my wren the shape of round brown.big old
penny..shape...ha.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2013
they are stsrting to put
memories.on.bombsight...new site.....lady cycle to gillettes.osterley
windmill lane...making aircraft components..war..wearing snood over
curlers..so she could go dancing hair do later..clogs..dungarees...8am
to 7pm..8 to 1 on sat....if ever time to read some more......my aunts
worked munitions..snoods....clever quick twist round of the scarf....
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2013
because snow staying more
days.....never known this..9 redwings..they say from
scandinavia....never cut my wild dog rose out of high apple tree...in
trees and on snow grass dark red hips they are eating..taken close up
photos..binoculars are gt...came back twice....we have one every yr of
snow...but he has told his mates....ridiculous.now.rooks magpie
woodpigeon.one redwing left.at moment..watching....fair size black specks thrush like..large rounded..tinge orange under neck red under wing.. ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2013
bbc tv..1950s..midwife..jenny
worth biography...also.about the series..book..by heidi thomas..life
times of call midwife..radio times several weeks...articles..free pull
out last week..of midwife..bikes are great and ship at end of ..roads
docks...les mis film..very well done pinewood..portsmouth
greenwich...hope too see soon....we found the stage show was
amazing....extremely good..victor hugo..1830
paris..saw his house in guernsey ..on holiday....music words acting
song so.good..comic bit also...director of kings speech..bound to be
awards..high skills.. ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jan-2013
Funny you should say that, as I
usually have the odd Redwing and Fieldfare when the snow is on the
ground, but this year I have had lots of Fieldfares, all interested in
the apples cut in half. The trouble with them is they are so aggressive
towards the resident blackbirds. Perhaps it's because they are all from
the Thrush family.I am looking at one Fieldfare now, and he is adamant
that no-one else is
going to get anywhere near the apples. He chases everything off. Lots of
blackbirds keep coming down, the Pied Wagtail's back with its tail
flicking up and down, the Dunnock's hopping around, with sparrows and
starlings. Four beautiful white doves, collared doves and the wretched
pigeons were all lining up like soldiers along the top of the garage.
The Tits and Chaffinches are taking the whole nuts in the terracotta
container, when the Jays leave them some, and the mad squirrels frighten
the life out of everything when they start chasing each other behind
the Berberis bush (which I call the Sparrow bush) as that's where they
all congregate. The 2 Woodpigeons are strolling around as if they are
the Lords of the Manor, keeping the Collared Doves in order, and the
Magpie only ventures in and out quickly. The robin doesn't stay around
long once it's found something to eat, but a fight starts as soon as
another robin appears! What a miserable life it would be without our
birds. We must look after them. ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jan-2013
I forgot the Blackcap!
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2013
GT FUN...MY BIG BOOK.NICE
BIRDLIFE BRITAIN BY.HAYMAN AND THE RSPB FREE BOOKLETS...MY OPEN PAGE
FIELDFARE...REDWING...THINK..RURAL FIELDFARE MIGHT BE MORE
FORCEFUL...REDWING LESS.....SUCH CHOCK..WHEN HUGE CAME 9...THEN DOWN ON
SNOW WITH RED..ROSE HIPS..PULLED OFF.....LOVELY FLUFF WHITE..STRONG
THRIUSH LIKE BLACK SPECKS...TINGE ORANGE UNDER NECK...STRONG RED UNDER
WING..DART ACROSS TREES...TONY WILL
GET PHOTOS..WILL ENLARGE TONIGHT......THROUGH WINDOW..WENT GENTLY
HIDDEN BUY DOOR BUT THEY WENT..SAW CAMERA....WAGTAIL..BIT ON SNOW..BUT
MAINLY STREETS ALONG LITTLE SHOPS...PAVEMENTS EVERY YR..THEY LOOK
CRUMBS......BLACKBIRD AND WOODPIGEON BUT STILL FEW TIMES REDWING...ONLY
IF GOT CLOSE TO EACH OTHER..WOULD FLY OFF....BUT OTHERWISE DONT MIND
EACH OTHER..SPACED OUT BRANCHES ...HA......REDWING NOT AS BIG AS FIELD
FARE...BIT LESS......9 DARTING WAS SO FUNNY.....NO TIME MOVING
FILM....THESE GT MEN WHO DO TV FILMS FOR US ..CLEVER ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 22-Jan-2013
Have been feeding birds always
but extra this last week found some microwave pop corn in cupboard they
have eaten three packs also had a thrush the first time in 30yrs Lovely.
Remember the 1963 winter trolly buses were efected with ice on
overhead cables. Worked in Etam at Ealing bdwy. at time finaly got into
work 2hrs late Manageress gave us tea with whisky in it such a treat.
We married in the August so hopefully Golden wedding celebrations on the cards. ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 22-Jan-2013
Doesd anyone know what happend to Mr & Mrs Core they had two sons Dennis & Ronny?
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2013
happy time
aug...sandy.......yes..film..of 1963 on bbc tv...few days ago...cliff
michelmore..big freeze films.....1963photos snow iron bridge...frozen
water local..on our flickr ..boards.etc etc1963.....freeze cold at
uxbridge rd..607 bus..I did..1963..long wait...fogs
..ice..slush.....think was 1st time long zip boots....bought some..and
thick black tights..came in new.....boxing day to march ..hope
never again....best wishes bird..we rare see thrush..summer on path
bashing the snails......broke ice bird bath gave fresh
water......seagulls swirl over....blue tits great..go for insects..... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2013
mike may have known
him..........ron ottewill on southall dad was toolmaker....infants
beaconsfield.1932 to 1945....heston juniors went to see chamberlain wave
paper 1938 from munich..heston airport....southall
grammar..sciences..1938 to 1945...was head bot...went to london
uni...lecturer..career.....worked for crown cork.......
- Re: New Year Greetings
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Jan-2013
Sandy
The very last trolleybuses in London ran in May 1962 and these were the
657 & 667 at Brentford. The 607 went even earlier (November 1960)
when it became the 207
But then until around 1960 we seemed to get big freezes every winter
-canal froze over etc - until 1963 when they seemed to stop
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
site in google is good.....days
of the week......tuesday.8 nov 1960 last 607 trolley bus...then
207.....our photo on flickr...1960 southall broadway must be summer
..before..our few photos .607 bus ended.november....sandy could be you
on bus to ealing...ha.....busy day bikes..always that busy crossroads at
butlers 3 horseshoes....many people on sites...ask..love to know..dates
of..when trolley ended
etc..most cant remember exactly.....let alone trams......dennis tea
trays sledge..photos at recent northala.............rail tv ..last night
dan snow good.........survey sheeys 26 jan 2013..are gt to
use.rspb.enter birds seen....myself buses lifetime.....all weathers.rush
hour traffic ..crowded....607..207....to 1974.....then..across the
uxbridge road...so diagonal buses.....dark trying to get home.get
evening meal.rain etc..chiwick.acton. to ealing.brentford.onwards..wait
hour busstop traffic snarl...BUT.last 10yrs..private
companies...computer..says..tracking bus will be arriving 5 mins on
busstop screen display.....and if on quiet traffic route....it comes
.for first time in my life...every 15 mins...mainly perfect on
time....years of tales could tell..are horrendous... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jan-2013
Yes Northola good for
sledging, watched railways Dan Snow very interesting it would
seem that times dont change much regarding a fast buck
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
yes growth of middle
class...1800s...so interesting..years..of rail..and everything...also
abroad..rail..developing.years..just doing my family tree...harrow
greenford botwell hayes to heston..1780 1819..1900....life...changes
rail anal..etc..farms..to factories etc.....photos northala on our
boards.50..54...48..47..49..20...etc....up top in snow.....enlarges my
redwing.photos...but wish did movie film of the 9..rare dont think get again... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 23-Jan-2013
They have kept the number 607 on
the Uxbridge Road route. Saw one only yesterday and we commented how it
used to be the old trolley bus number.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
YES WAS READING THERE IS LOTS IN
GOOGLE ABOUT ....REINTRODUCE 607.......................MY CHILDHOOD
MEMORY IS 607..TROLLEY.....NOSTALGIC MEMORY.........NICE PHOTOS...GIVE
NICE MEMORIES...POLE...WIRES....CHUG CHUG...SOUND NOISES OF IT
ALL......AMAZING STRAIGHT ROAD UXBRIDGE RD...LOADS BUSES....HUGE MAIN
ROUTE ..SO MANY TRAVELLED.....STILL SO BUSY.......GREAT TOWNS ON ROUTE
..SHOPS EC...
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Jan-2013
Mention pf the 607 Trolley Bus
Brings back a few memories. Very frequent service during the day-I think
there was a night service also.
I am ancient enough to remember the trams that preceded them!
- Re: New Year Greetings
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jan-2013
I remember the tram lines
ending at Hayes bridge, dont the night bus run up the South
road seem to remember there was a bus stop for it outside
the Palace
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
such busy..bus stop outside
palace 50s 60s.....we used to ..get off heston 120 there....queue there
105..etc...turn around for buses opposite there......mike......my nan
gdad family west ave by north rd 1928...trams....to music hall little
theatre on green at shepherds bus........took couple older kids
..1930s....seems 607 trolley started 1936......tram lines get bike..heel
shoe stuck in......tonys
gdad...from .loco works generations 1800.s.stratford west ham.now
olympic stadium..on works and terraced workers
cottages..streets........but 1920..tram driver glasgow..after he came
back from france 1st war......... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
todays.gazette.......1st ever
borough hillingdon.local.referendum...march 2013..207000.electoral role
people...take card to library or council office..or online..or by
post....threat effects so many in so many ways..small highly conjested
areas ..compared to other land mass countries.........expansion heathrow
runways etc.increase flights and times etc etc...people many yrs
fight....2015 gov.moves....£100000.cost council.referendum. ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Jan-2013
Yvonne- I remember going to the
Shepherds Bush Empire Music Hall many times. Jokes very near the knuckle
for the time! The tram/trolley bus service was excellent.
Also went on the 607 to Uxbridge with my dad on fishing expeditions.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
max wall was a favourite.....and
loads cockney london songs..etc...bbc tv took over the little
theatre....60s comedians were there..etc....on the green west
side....new massive modern big shop centre down east end of green
now...I worked opposite entrance to shepherds bush mkt...frithvil
gdns...dow to entrance park..of bbc tv centre...nearly 6 yrs.....got
tube to work......used mkt lunchtimes.....blue
pater garden..was at entrance...lifts up to studios
etc......2013/5...all finishes there...gone to manchester.....opened
1960 next to greyhound stadium .my aunt uncle went....circular...had all
countries come to visit us...to copy....gt tv centre........white city
tube on central line....gdad loved the empire entertainment.....nan
liked the pictures took the kids....southall..... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
wonderful...tv
documentaries..TODAY.awards etc...brian cox..great.....frozen planet
floods etc..creatures of the world..planet earth...lucky we are
cameramen...julia bradbury there....who does so much...britain
etc.....tv....everything covered so well this last
10yrs......attenborough etc...gets better all the time.....
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 23-Jan-2013
Yes Dennis, you are right about the Night Service bus stop outside The Palace.
In the early sixties, as youngsters we thought the introduction of
Southall's first Wimpy Bar next door to The Palace was a real benefit.
These days now that I am in my own 'early sixties' I would only eat a
burger perhaps once a year & never one of those plastic things from
restaurants such as the one I'm told is now at The Iron Bridge. ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
yes fred ...greenford hotel at
iron bridge ,.,many yrs now macdonalds.....was disco..place as
well...before that..still structure of ..nice hotel..photos our
boards.....costa coffee now at side of palace..chain..costa...palace
boarded long time...bits of mkts have been indide..long time nt
cinema..even though bollywood several yrs..........so much queue there
think..2 bus stops..........economy.iceland
tesco lidl..factory in southern ireland closed down now...they found
box frozen beefburgers...dna.inspect..found some pork some horse..in
it...news recently...all apologised destroyed now.....but war southall
had horse meat...like france fashion.... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
my oz holiday month...sydney went
to drive in movie burgers etc..they sold.clint eastwood good bad ugly
boomed out music......but lots ...small high street....foods
..now...leisure....lots people..very aware nice eating..relax .out
today...many pubs now..refurbished.for.meals
etc...celebration..venue..families friends.....great butchers or
supermkt butcher..fresh meat...makes own beefburger..from steak
beef...buy 4...tasty..good food...or we were taught at
school...rissoles ..made egg bind..fresh meat fry...ha...fresh made
fishcakes.....fish pie potatoe or pastry gt prawns shrimps etc....fresh
made..flakes salmon..as well in it.... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Jan-2013
50 years ago, Night service bus
was the 289, ran from London Bridge to Southall Brent Road, then
renumbered to N89 later. Trolleybus 607 did not run all night in fact
all finished by midnight, but they started v early in the morning
(before 5) > > I have 1952 timetable somewhere
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 23-Jan-2013
Does anyone remember the Embassy
cafe? Opposite the Manor House,The Green.It was owned by the ex head
chef at Wembley Stadium. He made the best burgers i've ever tasted.
toasted crispy rolls, coated in butter. grilled beefburger large slice
of tomato, large slice of fresh onion, fresh lettuce. and you could put
in his own recipe sauce. What a Memory
Also his son was Frank Maher a stuntman and double for Patrick Mc Goohan of The Prisoner etc (google him) ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
couple of very nice bita...in
google....frank maher/////my husband favourite...no6..i am not a number
..am free man.....we went to clough williams portmeirion...wales....kept
as of the filming...huge white ball...etc......miranda midwife..of cast
one the award..lumley..corrie..gt tv....today awards..at greenwich
02.....olympics praised...etc...so good...
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 24-Jan-2013
I used the 289 night service bus a
lot in 1956. all right going into London, but coming back late at
night, was dodgy,and would never go upstairs,(went once it was a eye
opener never seen such long cigarettes) dont know how the conductors
coped at times.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2013
4 nice sites google....frank
maher..southall......boxing.......stuntman..films..for errol flynn1953
ballantrae...for burt lancater 1952 crimson pirate...m caine italian
job,1969...tv.robin hood 1955 to 1959 we used to watch that at west
ave.....blakes 7..persuaders.randall hopkirk 1969...saintfor roger
moore...in ivanhoe...in avengers...dangerman tv...wrote 3 novels..wrote
part of die hard bruce willis.....died
isle wight 2007 13 july emphasemia...born 1929 18 june..4 wives.4
divorces..daughter son...southall dad ex wembley
chef..stadium....parachute...war..at arnheim............some of the
..swords..chain mail..north rd southall..chris mum/family...made for the
films..1950s.....ivanhoe etc. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2013
ctv camera now...buses......50s
after war...spivs..troubles of.night..trouble.......taking care
today....drugs etc etc....unemployed muggers etc........after war and
50s..also the..ones..of trouble..crime.........those little top windows
buses..smoking upstairs........2013..so good to see..far less smoking
everywhere....lots buses .plate glass no windows open........new 607.bus
southall photo our board......lots photos...general........ ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Jan-2013
I was having a chat with a
chap at a bus museum we got talking about 50s London buses
RT built Southall, RTL built Layland Lancashire a good one
now brings £25000
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2013
Although I didn't use the 289
bus, in the 1940's most of us young'uns used to smoke and go upstairs,
and it got pretty nasty at times, especially in the very cold weather. I
didn't like the cigar smoke either. I'm afraid it never occurred to me
at that time that the conductors who didn't smoke must have inhaled
almost as much smoke as the rest of us. I gave up at 30, and have never
smoked since, and hate the smell of cigarettes that I can smell on people's clothes now. ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Jan-2013
SANDY - Thank you for mentioning
the whisky in tea when you were cold.I couldn't get warm this morning
and I suddenly remembered what you said. My mum and dad used to have
this sometimes when it was very cold, but I haven't thought about it for
years. It's lovely, and really warmed me up!
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2013
its lovely the internal..warm..as
well as the..clothing and warm of the home.....hot porridge...toast
soup....tried the atora suet dumplings..stew...went to the luxury
cinema..saw les mis...clearer the story of the book..so well done..gt
orchestra music song acting..director of kings speech...audience
applaused at the end..gets awards....pinewood..sets snow rain..huge
scenes....greenwich palace..portsmouth
docks..1830 french galleons war ships....the huge elephant statue at
bastille prison..paris..clever huge.scenes.off high roof paris and the
seine river...quite bit of gt comedy of..the innkeepers.laughs from us
all....deep good story..1830 1858
uprisings..paris..1819..injustice...make up costumes camera work..only
£6.70 whole day out...took orange juice.....few yrs ago stage show also
extremely good...mis just meaning the poor as dickens oliver twist
etc...boy like the perky artful dodger in it..huge
courage..stirring.also.religous thoughts. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jan-2013
BLUE SKY...MILD ..DOUBLE FIGURES
FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW...DAFFS UP FEW INCHES.......LOOK TOWARDS
SPRING....BIRD WATCH FILL IN SURVEY..ON LINE OR POST....RSPB.ANNUAL
30YRS NOW...SURVEY...this weekend....photos in the southall book by
oates...saw last week....tudor rd school 1940.years spitfire fund..kids
there raised money..parade by butlers.town hall photo 1940
yrs..truck..support war bonds savings etc....photo
inside north rd ..school 1920s1930s..in class kids......2 photos every
page...great book...from 199os....original hut hall of top lady marg
1920.photo...then 1935 the one we knew built...holy trinity
hall.photo..but now temple......bandstand lake rosegarden
southallpark..people kids in cranleigh pk photo there....100 more photos
ealing library.....collection of all things there.......... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2013
MILD DOUBLE FIGURES...SOME
RAIN..THE HORSES OUT NOW..ON HILLS...NEW FEED PUT OUT..HILLS FIELDS
LANES..FRESIAN COWS..ONLY SOME SNOW ON SOME FIELDS LEFT.....BUT..VILLAGE
POND..SHALLOW WATER..COVERED ICE SLOW..MELT...DID THE RURAL
RSPB.SURVEY...WROTE DOWN LOADS MALLARDS COOTS..ROOKS..GULLS..PEKIN
AYLESBURY DUCK WITH 2 CROSSBREEDS.....MIDDX...ICE TOW PATH BUT CANALS NO
ICE FISHERMEN..THERE.....WHOOPS dealing with my eyes complaint cousin.busy emails with her.forget to turn caps off ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2013
happy australia day......to
the..southall local gone....that way....geneology scots families happy
burns.......snow men of yesterday gone....sportsfield had about
30...tony said must have been huge noise of excitement making them few
hours.....competition perhaps...if they had carrot.nose hats
scarfs....midwife tonight..repeat was today..ships at the end of
terraced houses...docks..1957 ..3 yrs jenny
worked there.....tv...radio 4 extra today..had whole of les mis
narrated by joss ackland..was good..desert island disc interesting
people..chitty bang bang narrated theredaily...gt stage show london and
film and car at beaulieu ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2013
portillo bbc2 6.30 daily...did
paddington and euston tunnel..crossrail under london..hayes
southall..out to east london.....gwr rail..he was at hanwell viaduct
front meadow.1837..brunel 1stt.grand structure that type victori paused
the train to look at.view.....he goes to asylum.1831
ish...connelly..arrived and started more human..fresh air
gardens.activity..which rest country..to copy.connelly dell
by hanwell brent pk.....he went in asylum..museum..of hundreds
brains...young and over 100yr old..patients..for those to study
today....protilo got on southall station...to white horse wilts..we have
been on the eye...yr 1700s started..legend of king arthur
battle.....photo our board 1841 jan 16 monday..gt flood of
brent.river.huge waters at uxbridge rd hanwell bridge..brent
reservoir.overflowed.welsh harp brent res..did 1976..we could not get
through police rowed dingies..greenford redlion..brent bridge.....bott
book..1841 brentford flood..many died barges buildings swept away... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 30-Jan-2013
Hi I am new to this site and it has brought back many memories of Southall and St Anselms.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jan-2013
glad you like.........fred was at
st anselm..primary...1950s.......photos our flickr..photostream..in
google....general..local..and near..............2013 they are well on
the way to.redo manor house..english heritage council huge
money....portillo.on bbc2 tv was at southall station this week...and at
viaduct and asylum....gwr story....
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 30-Jan-2013
Welcome Fred, I was at St Anselms in 1945-54, Great Days, when were you there?
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 30-Jan-2013
Correction. Last message should be addressed to Tom. Sorry.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 30-Jan-2013
Yes, welcome from me also Tom and I'd like to know which years you were there.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 30-Jan-2013
Bob, as you were there in 45-54 perhaps you may know my cousins Jean, Chris & Billy Fount? They are a bit older than me
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 30-Jan-2013
Yes i know Jean we were in the same class. I know Billy, but he was younger than me. send them my best wishes.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 31-Jan-2013
HI Fred I was at St Anselms 1950 til 1956
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 31-Jan-2013
I'll do that Bob although Jean
who lives in Hayes these days doesn't have email so I'll do it next time
I send a letter or phone her.
I was at St Anselms 1955-61. One abiding memory of the early days at
the school is of Mr (Spud) Murphy walking around with a knotted
handkerchief on his head during summer.
I am a member of FriendsReunited though that site is pretty dormant these days and no wonder because they've re-designed it and it's a hotch potch. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2013
so agree fred...mike..denis
myself..said good site like reunited..yr ago now...destroyed...wrote to
them..often..they replied..that they thought it was what people
wanted...and would review...to see.....but they have not done
anything.......most people..must have..not agreed with silly
changes.......they have ignored complaints.....must be most people not
using it now......or as we said...too awkward to use.......
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2013
in google......the methodist
kings hall 1916 south rd.....closing to be sold.....recent
insurance...and engineer survey...say it is good sound
structure....petition in google 9 days ago...signing against sale....
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 1-Feb-2013
That would be a dreadful shame to
close that wonderful building, I've been to technical drawing classes
there and attended a youth club and of course on occasions seen the
inner sanctum & it's just wonderful.
Why does everything come down to cost? Is there no thought of keeping & I hope using it for the community? Very sad.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
its in google..petition there to
stop sale...architecture 1916 is good....wonder if they think of keeping
facade and using it for different...buyers use.......many schools used
it 1950s...concerts etc....my cousins dad played instrument and was
there 1930s.....english heritage national trust many yrs now..heritage
dept..of house commons..are strong many yrs now....more than most
countries...we save
..preserve..loads..loads money from all different quarters.......will
put here if any more known of ...kings hall..methodists............. ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Feb-2013
We sang in the King's Hall as
part of a larger choir when I was at Southall Grammar in the 1940's. The
sound was beautiful. I also went to Sunday school there for a while,
but not in the huge hall. It's unimaginable for it to be sold, and more
to the point for what!
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
yes they dont say for what...2
sites in google the methodists..and rev smith..petition to .say should
not close or sell......google says only been open..bits of the day for
some time...says..immigrant office or something it opens certain hour of
some of the days..in the past......same as red
lion..greenford..exchange contracts sold...but buyers....never broadcast
what doing with it.....meetings..locals
of greenford say want pub in complex of flats shop...but....they
say...stays..empty...site long time before ever decisions made....must
cost lot keep site kings hall open...it is large area....less goes on
there..now many yrs..huge areas upstairs as well.....methodists at
greenford have nice active church and hall...... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
google.....ealing trinity
trust...methodists who own it..survey.and not afford.to keep it
going..closed it 31 january...and the religion services few times week
english.. and hindi..will be at next door hamborough school...where
the..1950s..cold war bunker is.....100 yrs..nearly..1916 opened...reel
history.films..30s 40s.bbc2 daily.2.45 is good...the huge
..water..rain..broke bank of some canals midlands....they
hope to find money volunteers to build drain under..flow down
hill..water..away....... then build new trough canal
on..top...trent...over 200 yrs canal... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 1-Feb-2013
There was a clinic or something down the side of The Kings Hall. My mum took us there for juice and Virol.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
bottle virol for
spoonful..rosehip syrup..cod liver oil.syrup figs..galloways.milk
magnesia.orange juice vit c...meat extract malt extract..district nurse
bike..gladstone bag.....they say was virol factory hanger lane
ealing..moved to devon to become ambrosia...reel films..of 50s..on next
week also 2.45 bbc2..daily.for video.....1950s tv bbc midwife next week
jenny works at london hospital with doc....
- Re: New Year Greetings
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Feb-2013
Tom i remember the clinic
down the side of Kings Hall mum used to get orange juice
& cod liver oil there must be 60 yrs ago now
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
PHOTO OF IT.....LONG..LAYED
BACK..FROM RD...ALONG..BY KINGS HALL...june 48 opened..1950s welfare
council office..south rd..further along sherrys chemist corner so many
many yrs there......from oates book..southall..............in
google...flickr photostream.council welfare office south rd southall
1950s................board 50 page1
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 1-Feb-2013
When I was at North Road School
in the 1930's we had a headmaster, Mr Woodley, who inaugrated a School
Speech day. This was held at kings Hall.There was a distinguished guest
who handed out certificates of merit.
I also went to Kings Hall for the wedding of a relative.
Finally when I was demobbed from the RAF in 1948, I got my identity card and ration book from offices at Kings Hall
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
says 3 storey high...red
brick..our photos huge building..to 2012 used for so many things since
wesley hall 1916......old methodist chapel was western rd.........saw
that rowntree of your north rd school visit died 1950...got his art on
our photo boards......methodist trustee..ingoogle..says survey..they
could not afford..keep it up...asks for help..demolish or what....their
few church services in school next door...
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Feb-2013
I remember that visit of Harry
Rowntree to north Road. He did a number of charcoal drwings ib front of
us. These were subsequently framed, and hung in the hall. Wonder if they
are still there???
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2013
they ought to have them...if
not..should be with local..history library ealing...he has school log
books..at library to view.....lovely..paintings....he lived locally when
older......photo of him on google....and with his illustrations.on our
flickr photo stream...he did alice wonderland..........delicate
work.....and with our ernest ham 73 local paintings...of everywhere
local....such luck..talent....through the yrs...for memories...picture paints thousand words....... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2013
MIKE......JUST READ..MR MEADS
BOOK.......harry lived southall a while when older.....he opened....new
dormers school..1934 7 dec.....cost £30000....new dormers..opened 2012
14000 students..cost 30 million......new prospectus ..in
google.2012/13...lovely photos...cricket...field........drama art
.IT..sport..lots new...there...swim pool...allotments section...growing
tall yellow sunflowers they look
gt....1934..eburt was head....my aunt and dad went there..moving.into
west ave 1928...went home for lunch bread jam...eldest sister 14..looked
after them..nan worked ticklers jam..down brent rd......corridors
hall....same as 3/4/5 of my family generations...used..1934
onwards.....so sad..pull down.....know corridors hall etc so
well......field...etc.. ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 5-Feb-2013
Harry lived in one of the roads coming off the Uxbridge Road,before Dormers Wells Lane-a roas with some big houses.
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2013
AH YES KNOW THE ONES.....WE AT
DORMERS ALWAYS FELT THERE WERE SOME VERY NICE HOUSES...THERE...SOUTH
SIDE UXBRIDGE RD BY DORMERS AND OPPOSITE OVER NORTH SIDE.....50% of
dormers primary and seniors...ame from council estates....prefabs
and...areas..........3 main ...alleys...went...from off north rd..to
dormers primary......winter summer walked through all the alleys....long
ones etc......new primary
they had maypole on large grass areas.......previous loads fields
there...now extra large school buildings on site.........several
hundreds primary and nusery....and 1400 at seniors 11 to 19...over 200
6th form alevels etc...new buildings 2013...threat any moment to pull
down harrys 1934 one....sad day..so many kids stafff memories..huge
number yrs...we had fireworks speeches our 1927...one pulled
down...large houses built on site...staff had feast and party in
hall...at end...firewks also....... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Feb-2013
like ..harry illustrations...and
we like st ives where he went ...died..1950 b newz 1878..72..1911 census
dormers wells southall...artist..wife estella..newz.died age
86..son..age 3..became judge...solicitor..cornwall died
55.1962..daughter lynda.was age 1.1911..2 servants....son was sqad
leader bomber command war......harry opened dormers 1934 he would be
amazed .huge..now...like most school s..colleges
modernised hugely last yrs....108 acres was original
dormers..farm...then to ewers then snell...st ives was well
known.artist...we like it there white clear light sea all around amazing
and tate gallery there at beach.........7 dec 1934 eburt the head,,if
they pull it down this yr..head mistress many yrs now there... ... more >>
- Re: New Year Greetings
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2013
photos...harry...flickr southall
board24....by 1948 he was st ives...in sloop pub..sketching...his work
on its walls.....war he was capt in.royal engineers....1901 came to
london..liked zoo..sketched animals..1987 his work selling at
christies......president of london sketch club....his
cartoons....childrens books work....
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Happy Christmas
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Dec-2012
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On this very cold and frosty morning, I would like to wish everyone on
this wonderful Southall Knowhere site of ours a very Happy Christmas and
a Healthy, Happy and Peaceful New Year.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 11-Dec-2012
Thanks Pauline and I also wish
everyone a Happy Christmas and a good New Year. [It's 10.30am on a cold
and frosty morning in Weston-super-Mare - the sun has only just started
to defrost the rooftops - the outside temperature at 8am was 0.5c!]
- Re: Happy Christmas
by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 11-Dec-2012
Happy Christmas to all from sunny Australia -30 degrees C here today
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2012
happy christmas to all
everywhere..we all had xmas at southall some of the years.....hope
weston..pier ok now...saw it on tv..we were there couple yrs ago at
fire...great local social history museum...so much on display in
it....gt sand sculptures........rare get white xmas ..but couple yrs
ago...had arranged go out boxing day...so just went steady on ice
paths....was pretty..scenery though.....amazing
white countryside.....ducks swans gulls etc still beg for bread
etc...but..some places have banned bread notices ...sell corn instead to
feed them.... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Dec-2012
A merry Xmas happy a happy new year to all old Southhallians Denis
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Dec-2012
The RSPB don't advocate feeding
wild birds with bread, as although it fills them up very quickly, it
doesn't contain the nurients they need.The blackbirds like uncooked
porridge oats, sultanas, atora shredded suet, apples cut in half, black
sunflower seeds, grated cheese, fat balls, wild bird seed, etc. The
smaller birds eat most of this as well. I usually soak the sultanas
overnight as they are more moist for them.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2012
the pair of black rooks are funny
they dunk...all nutrition bits put out in bird bath water..large magpie
nest..they do as well....4 woodpigeons parade across the grass...rare
but woodpecker we have both seen in right hand tree..little ones are so
small in comparison.blue tits gt..robin blackbirds....rare but
goldfinch.wren.wagtail.on bird bath...we fill in survey annually for
rspb...they are delight...squirrel ha..walnut trees...roads nearby...seagulls lady over back puts out for... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 11-Dec-2012
Happy Christmas to all old Southallians and wishing you all Health and Happiness for 2013.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 11-Dec-2012
As The Dandy & Beano would say, "Merry Christmas
to all our readers" and in our case writers as well.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2012
heston blumenthal...if you get in
oz as well...channel 4 tv..next wednesday giant xmas pudding you can
step inside.....all.enjoyed today..kids lunches..but the parents went
back down memory lane..giant 1000 times size..items....kit kat from york
nestle rowntree.nestle was hayes......giant tea pot...giant pkt
crisps..with the blue sachet we all knew..giant freeze dry granules
powder of flavours..to
open and sprinkle on...like norwood green huge lawn with grass
roller....giant sandwich.bread slices..like summer pudding roll layed.to
make huge size.....sweet sandwich..with white choc.rolled out to look
like swiss cheese..giant juice and straw...all said tasted gt....huge
fun....adults it triggered childhood memories...only thing with picnic
lunches was the sand grit..when at the beach..ha ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2012
back..site.off over 12hrs..emails
to them but.....12 seconds of the 12.12 2012......all the 12 date
.today..in the gazette also..palindrome......only towards beginning of
new century...so wont happen again for long time...
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Dec-2012
Just to wish a Happy Christmas and a Wonderful New Year to all the guys who keep our Southall Knowhere Site on track!
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Dec-2012
The longest palindrome that I've ever heard of Pauline, was one that Dennis Norden once quoted
"Are we not drawn onward we few drawn onward to new era"
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2012
yes backwards the same..gazette
of uxbridge brunel university today..has whole page on it..and tv today
12 secs.12.12.12...boasted it.....tonight series chris tarrant of
millionaire show...many railways of world...he is on the
ghan...adelaide..alice springs darwin..3 hrs and gets on the 1st
ghan..rough.outback.of camel train.hence afgan camels.100yrs ago..98
dollars ticket..my melbourne friend her
gt gt went out from london 1840ish to sydney..she lived outback now in
melbourne..1878 rail.build took yrs lost lives lost..legendary 2000mls
south to north darwin..orient express some call....port augusta..for 100
yrs ran..I flew sydney to darwin jan 1970 massive heat walking down
steps..plane..equator up..then hong kong..channel 5 be on computer
iplayer ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Dec-2012
That's really clever Fred.
Although Denis Norden is a really gifted person, I don't think this was
his own Palindrome. I wonder where it originated?
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Dec-2012
MIKE.....short page..top..is
maureen glyne.....last reply there august..by donovan..says he played
with her age 6..other says sge was 19 ..1950...25 artgyl..they were 7
knowsley ave.........FRED..billion dollars knew freight rail..alice to
darwin..on tv last night.iron ore minerals to india etc..small
communities rely on rail.only 24 hrs from alice..but 4 days 1000 mls.old
rail to adelaide..hot red
desret soil..but flash floods..1000 yrs old natural spring
pool...termites eat the wood old rail..hazards...very good.tv..tarrant
goes india next ..did africa rail last week....1840s...good old
brunel..of gods wonderful railway..us....we flew low sydney saw red
orange soil etc to darwin.1970..1920..ghan like orient express
elegant.passengers....my cousin we waves her off southall west ave
1957.she has been back 3 times...sydney.......worked for sony ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 13-Dec-2012
A very happy Christmas and a happy and peaceful New Year to all friends, old and new, on the Southall message boards.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Dec-2012
Yvonne- I knew Maureen Glyn well-her dad was a friend of my dad's-they were both on the buses.
During 1940, a large bomb fell in that area, which left a very large crater.
I would like to add my Christmas and New Year's greetings to all the wonderful people on this site.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Dec-2012
mike...he says malcolm smith was
his mate lived 19 argyle......crater..they have to deal with it all
afterwards...my friend moved out .her dad got them back after war
rebuilt house....new site...red blobs..on the bomb sites from coucil
brough ealing...arp....see clearly 1940 map the ones around southall pk
areas and other areas....right click and they are adding more
details..type of bomb..etc....etc...21
dec 2012..end world...all the planets line up.....vatican today said
no....pope 1st twitter..for xmas....catholoic cathedral westminster
memorial service for indian lady hoax..nurse..and .catholic church at
bristol.she used to go home every friday weekend.but could not face
telling them...they dont watch tv.or the news did not know....she learnt
to drive last yr..4 yrs at king edward..hyde park corner I worked
belgrave sq by there... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Dec-2012
cornelius..more recent comment
.says she was very pretty girl....my school friends came from..knowlsey
argyll....thought valerie harman.classmate long thick hair
redhead..friend eliz sache head girl.....did ...but could be she was one
of those from somerset rd...areas.....harman famous brewery
uxbridge..high st...many decades...huge.....they talk of as
kids..played.in..dip..empty hill areas..over east
side by green drive..they think it was old ..derelict...lake boating
lake..pictures on our boards show big long oblong..weeping
willow..photos.there rose garden circle..hedge flower beds........708
digital on tv screen or radio..4 extra..daily old comedies..50s
etc....eth gets her wedding ring..june whitfield.take it from
here...clitheroe kid..navy lark...all there daily....jimmy edwards etc
etc..dick barten etc..on channel 708 radio 4 extra..archive..on
tv.screen ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Paul Kentish (Member 10270722) on 14-Dec-2012
Hi There, not very seasonal, I'd
like to say Happy Xmas and thanks to all who sent memories for me to
share with Lionel - and yes Mike, he did remember the assemblies at the
Tech.
Sadly Lionel passed away on 4th Nov after suffering a 2nd stroke which
stopped him talking or swallowing. In the end it was a blessed release
for him to go. I was with him till the end...
Thanks again, and have a good Xmas season.
Paul. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Dec-2012
very best wishes to you and
family...yes we ..and others..know and have gone through
similar.....very best wishes..for all the times he enjoyed....hope
..nice memories..etc..our pages of southall and local...lives
nostalgia...sincere good wishes..new yr...
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Dec-2012
Paul,
Sorry to hear of the passing of Lionel-RIP.
Mike
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Jack (Member 10165328) on 14-Dec-2012
Just emerging after a week of flu - ugh! Anyway, just to say a very happy Christmas to all and a happy and healthy 2013.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 20-Dec-2012
wishing everyone at Southall Message, a happy Xmas and a healthy and prosperous 2013 from New Zealand
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 21-Dec-2012
I am remembering childhood
Christmas days in Southall. The one day when a fire was lit in the front
room and we actually sat in there. The radio on with the Light Service
and a special Forces Favourites programme. Some real Ginger Wine as a
treat. The Meccano set placed in my bedroom on Christmas Eve when I was
supposedly asleep.When a little older, the Carol Singing around the
streets. Later still my
student job as a postman, and being given my first gin and orange. The
rest of the round was a strange experience. Happy Christmas to all. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Dec-2012
happy xmas...yes my aunt..came
in..about 6am..3 young cousins..myself..and....she put toys gifts bottom
bed..made out I was asleep...told her when she was in her 70s ..ha...up
early they lit fire..newspaper..twist ..bits wood..coal...coke...paper
across front ..get it to draw...only one ..heat..fire....in living
room...back kitchen cold..washing done in sink..veg out of garden
prepared.....brown wood
radio..on sideboard...sundays family favourites midday..getting roast
dinner cooked...light programme......today 50s radio4 extra on
digital.radio..or tv screen..708.....great comedies..plays etc.etc..tom
midnight garden..june whitfield....all the comedians shows.dick barton
etc.daily..there....50s old black LPs..music on small record player..old
paper chains etc..mistletoe....playing cards..barrol beer kitchen
from..local pub.xmas club.money...northcote arms.....where did you
live.... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 21-Dec-2012
Bill Henley's entry brought back
some golden memories.When I was at Southall Tech, I did a Christmas
postman's job, 1943,1944. One year my partner was Alan Dampney, the next
year Charlie Ellis.Wonder what became of them??
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 21-Dec-2012
Those words from Bill brought
back such memories but does anyone remember what they ate for Christmas
dinner? I can only remember one occasion when we had roast chicken,
think it was the first Christmas after WW2 ended, and I understand that
chicken was a luxury meal in those days. We never had turkey or pork -
we might have had beef as that was perhaps cheaper. Tea always seemed to
be ham and salads, with
tomatoes so cold they would hurt our teeth and my father would complain
of them being tasteless. Tinned fruit and evaporated milk to follow
with plenty of bread and butter to mop up the juice before we could have
a slice of cake. The rooms would be festooned with paper chains which
my brothers and I would make as well as those paper lanterns, bells and
coloured balls that folded out and were secured with bendy metal tags.
When it was time to take the decorations down, my mother would complain
as all the dust from the open fires would have settled on them. Hair
tied in a turban and an old wrap-around pinny on, she'd clean the place
up and then sink herself into a hot bath and all would be clean and tidy
once more. I can't remember a Christmas tree nor Christmas cards nor
many presents. My father was a postman and worked on Christmas day and
hungry as we might be, we couldn't eat until he came home, sometimes as
late as teatime. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Dec-2012
Yes Bill i remember Xmas in
Lady Margaret Road as you say only allowed in the front
room for visitors & Xmas everywhere smelt of mansion
polish happy days
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Dec-2012
yes those lanterns nice to
make..bounce down..open up the slits..crepe paper..woolworths stuff at
xmas..bread butter alwats..jelly with tin fruit libbies....turban my
aunts wore...came from their factory work..na we would buy her new pinny
etc as her xmas present from cousins..broadway..wrap around..yrs they
wore them..all the dirty veg out the garden soil....babies sit on pinny
laps...always in the
wash..never saw..them in dress etc..always wrap pinny...had
several....drawing pins huge paper chains..across..around picture frame
under ceiling.around wall mirror...ha...pickled onions shallots out of
garden.spiced...picallili..red cabbbage..jars..etc etc ha ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Dec-2012
The Home Service, was it The
"Light Programme" and other than the Third Programme which seemed to be
non-stop funeral music, was there anything else??
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Dec-2012
home service....became radio 4
about years of 1967...archers womans hour .afternoon play..desert island
disc etc.......radio4 extra today..is great digital all 1950s famous
favourites.repeated there.........light programme was forces favourte as
well.......1967 ish became radio 1 and 2....evening big band music
etc..lots popular radio 2..easy listening.........radio 3..classical
radio..concerts opera
etc......but classic fm also today......bbc world service at famous bush
hse aldwich..had big knock recently....changes....after famous
lifeblood of the world......working bbc broadcasting hse we went
there...huge library ..russian..polish sections etc..etc...amazing
place....getting free pile radio times weekly was wonderful..... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Dec-2012
Yes Bill, this certainly reminded
me of Christmas day in our house. My dad always lit the fire in the
front room while he was giving it a polish on it's birthday. We all
couldn't wait to get in there as it also looked out on to the street.
Christmas Eve was so exciting as we were all waiting to get our
stockings filled. I remember keep waking up to feel if it had been
filled. We were always up when
it was still dark, congregating in my brothers' bedroom. Thinking about
it, none of us ever got big presents, but we were always so pleased
with what we got. We always had an orange each, and I loved it when I
fished out an excercise book (probably from Woolies) with either a shiny
red or blue cover, with all the measurements inside 12 inches one foot,
three feet one yard, etc. etc. We often got coloured pencils and
sometimes a paintbox with a brush. I remember my brother biting on what
he thought was chocolate in cellophane only to discover it was
plasticine! Such wonderful days. Can also remember having to help
pulling all the feathers out of the turkey and putting them in the large
bath that was kept outside in the garden. The Christmas pudding took
days to finish, as all the fruit had to have the stones removed and then
be washed. I know we all had to have a stir when it was finished and
make a wish. It was magical. In the evening my father's workmate at the
AEC, Dick Leech and his wife Amy and youngest son Norman used to join us
to play cards and then have a singsong while my mother played the
piano. I still get goodepimples whenever I hear "Roses in Picardy." My
mum would start singing it and then dad would join in. Amidst troubled
times there were some lovely memories.
... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Dec-2012
our back house must have
been..north east..always chilly..porch.in along side
kitchen..larder..50s with them all working factory..they pooled
together..saved up for extra bits xmas.....capon chicken or
turkey..galvised tubs..yes ours sat in cold area...the hours before
cooking..to keep fresh...gravy meat dish...nan must have had frock under
wrap pinny..but seldom saw it ...but at the open neck..costume..brooch
coloured glass stones......gift to her..one time.....undergarments
hankies socks gifts..kids bits...xmas pud..cake..or dundee cake..etc
nuts dates..box sweets.. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 22-Dec-2012
It is good to read other's
memories of Christmas. Each one brings back more memories. My father
kept chickens but could never bring himself to kill them. Our neighbour
Mr Cox did that for him and the chickens were shared. I think the only
time we ever ate chicken was at Christmas. My father was generally "on
standby" for the Gasworks and could be called out at any time if there
were a problem. The
extra demand for gas for Christmas Day made that more likely. At the end
of Brent Road there was a tunnel under the railway and a locked gate to
which my father had a key to enter the Gasworks. All now open for
access to the airport parking etc. In the front room a piano that none
of us could play and a rotating piano stool. I would make myself feel
sick by spinning on it. Somewhere I think I still have a small drinking
glass that came on top of the seasonal ginger wine bottle. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Dec-2012
We did have a few cockerels which
one of our neighbour's sons used to kill from time to time as my dad
couldn't face it. However, we did have one lovely old chicken called
Mary.I think it was a Rhode Island Red. She became more of a pet than
anything else, although she did provide us with some precious eggs
during the war. We used to bang on her saucepan of food outside the
kitchen door, and she would
sprint up the garden path to get it. When she eventually died, I ran
across the road in Northcote Avenue to tell my best friend Mauvine. Her
mother answered the door and could see that I had been crying. She said,
"What's the matter?", and I told her Mary was dead. She said "Was it
your aunt?", and I said "No, it was our chicken." I can still see that
lovely old bird in my mind's eye! ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 22-Dec-2012
Oh Pauline, how sad and yet how
funny the neighbour thought Mary was an aunt. The chicken I remember
having one Christmas was the only survivor from one of three chicks.
Does anyone remember the man who used to stand at North Road school
gates with a pile of boxes full of day old chicks that he used to give
in exchange for a bundle of old clothes? My mother managed to make three
bundles up one year and
he reluctantly handed over three chicks but moaned that the bundles
weren't really worth more than one chick. Anyway, my mother somehow
managed to rear just this one bird who grew into a fine cockerel and
became our Christmas dinner. Reading contributions from you good people
has brought back other memories to me of so many years ago when life was
harder and yet more fun too. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Dec-2012
west ave cornell next door many
yrs noise of that early morning.he was noisy.hut with chickens.I went to
collect dirt crusted eggs.straw.....brent rd..they have long yrs now
that new..tall.ONE.wind turbine...electricity...airport parking many yrs
since 1973 redundancies gas wks ..2 of ours there....each
month.southall borough ealing in google..plans..redevelop..cross rail
coming through...like emi
large area..in gazette often..takes time money...but will
eventually..modern spread across..new architecture complexes build...in
next 10yrs or so...1928 all moved in new west ave..my aunt took over old
lady place opposite..upright piano there...but nobody ever .learnt to
play...they moved out 1965..so piano must have scrapped
then......december ealing magazine..many hundreds thousands pounds
collected for new spikes park pavillion etc ..in google.....2013.. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Dec-2012
Janice, I think you mentioned
that you knew Mrs Stevens in Northcote Avenue opposite to where you
lived. She was the lovely neighbour I referred to, mother of Mauvine,
Barry and Kay. I had moved long before you moved in. It's a small world!
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 22-Dec-2012
Pauline, yes I remember Mrs
Stevens - didn't see much of Mr Stevens, think he was poorly at the time
I lived in Northcote Ave. I can't remember any of the older children
but do remember a little girl named Ann who was given my Raleigh bike
when I decided I no longer wanted it, sometime in the early '60s.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Dec-2012
we were still west ave 1961..my
aunt there to 1965..woolworths still open then..gone now..1965 the big
change hayes yeading went over to hillingdon borough..but brookside
yeading willowtree still ours by canal before.....northcote arms still
derelict..listed edwardian..but roof gone fire...little corner shop
still there but used to be grubhams...lots of alleys..key fenced
off......that go around back of houses.....
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Dec-2012
greenford site remember xmas
drinks party pubs...litten oldfield tavern allenby.black horse red
lion..railway arms.harehounds..and hanwell pubs.civil engineer full of
merry.....northcote arms xmas club..and..full bars...so many lived
around...now scaffolding.long time.....plough north rd green......lots
little high st.drinks..eats today...wine bars etc........lots xmas
lights up....lido santa grotto
steam light railway..chuff..toot toot..steam waft.along...18 inch trout
caught last week..in land net onto grass...swans coots moor hens
gulls..xmas ringing of 3 baby swans still young born late grey..... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Dec-2012
this time....1963...big
freeze..............uxbridge rd buses had hard time...to
april..boots..scarf.gloves hat...cold queue bus
stop....etc........diaries observations 1940s..archive...spoken
of...available now....xmas in the 40s..people wrote of..........6 pence
night south london caves....homes bombed above but..many under
could..get safe night..xmas chains sing song......the 50s midwife..so well acted tv..xmas.biography..of jenny..vanessa redgrave naurates..nuns midwife bikes..snow..docks.tennaments ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
I have just come from
Southall i see the Singer sewing machine shop next to the
Three Horse Shoes has gone after all theses years moved to an
ind. estate.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Dec-2012
in google got singer sew 4 high
st...tyson sew centre 4 high st.....then tyson sew centre..at unit 2
barrett indust est...park ave..southall...just at back southall
park..over by the railway.............think glassy pub restaurant now...
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
Yes Glassy Indian veggie restaurant now
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
I also found out that
Spencer Street got it name from Earl Spencer G/dad of Diana
Spencer who was involved in setting up a ind. estate near by
in the 1880
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Dec-2012
http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/SLHS/transactions5.pdf
yes ..mr harris gave us the 1960s.southall
society..papers.meetings...hanson..all people of southall group..many
yrs local social hist so....typed info...meaning of street names..so
much of southall green gov famous..gentry famous etc named
after....spencer st after 5th earl..1st lord admiralty....of prince
william..and kates.mum gdad ron goldmiths
of spencer st 1900s..he was gased 1st war..emphasemia..got easier job
at maypole....died young wife edith worked ticklers.brought up 6 kids
alice eldest..did for ron...she age 101 now lives uxbridge now.....yes
red lion greenford..bulldozer nov..brewery exchange contacts sold
oct..they say flats shops go at corner...red lion high st southall
uxbridge rd...so much hotel now..hotel front many yrs.by southall
pk.....white hart .along opposite..demolished yrs ago.. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
Yes it seems everything has
to go in the end, after i found out about Spencer Street, i
walked under the railway tunnel to the straight Took a
pic of gas holder will put on my flicker site how run down
it is now, must be 54/55 years since i went down that way
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Dec-2012
photos of lots filming along
straight areas......white lion pub..tv etc filming.....plans many yrs
now for..dealing with the..toxic of gas area..and ..huge plans..new
complex huge there...suppose by 10yrs..will see....all things happen
gradually.....google has all the plans...pictures diagrams........we
have been out dodging..rain...but loads lovely.displays lights..many
places..............ducks on the village green.swamped with huge puddle of water..then more ducks gulls in the village pond also...ha... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Dec-2012
Went up on the Northola after dark took pic of traffic at night on the Western Ave.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Dec-2012
Now posted
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Dec-2012
YES IN GOOGLE ..D.SEXTON428....gt
photos..3 large red lights on top of north east corner gas holder..gt
lights looking towards white city marylebone london.western
ave......they closed greenford flyover xmas eve for structure work..keep
strength iron rust etc in cement..check...your scouts 1953 is
good......1st time have seen.fish caught lido..18inches trout...into
landing net.......cormorants large
amount on middle island in reservoir..dug out 1800 for feeder supply to
canal..but river brent yeading brook proved.enough....1930s..beach
swimming .cliff film.young ones.benny hill..photos our boards...but now
huge nature reserve..oak woods..famous light railway....renew..there and
pleasure areas..testing water..to create new swimming again...at
drought old village hearn..can be seen..people complained they were
turned out to dig 300 ft long reservoir....attenborough gt on
tv..often..had geese..taught from birth to follow the pack leader..man
who hatched them.fed..so row boat..or plane ..one behind each other they
follow..the human..flying.... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Dec-2012
Must remember to visit Lido have'nt been for years, do Bentley Priory to
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Dec-2012
june 2013 stanmore middx.raf
hq.bently prioy opens anew..lottery money..lots done there..after.april
2013 renewed lido beach area light railway areas..opens anew..new
buildings.cafe childrens play areas etc.....over the holiday said they
stil cant decode...the pigeon leg red message war to england found down
chimney..canada tried .gchq/tried...war
diaries.observations..many.spoken of now by housewives
etc....freeview tv 10 vic wood good actress as wvs...morrison
shelter..houses bombed..boys at war..family gatherings...good film.... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Dec-2012
Vic Wood also a very funny lady, all the wizardry they have today cant crack WW11 message.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 28-Dec-2012
What happened (and when?) to the Litton at Greenford?
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Dec-2012
long time ago
1980s..demolished...old peoples flats there now...garden was nice..good
pub we used to use it in 1970s...paintings displays in
garden.....oldfield lane opposite ravenor pk.....red lion sold exchanged
contacts oct 2012...pub had regulars party last day......brewery said
not viable....high cost ground rate as well..high st big
corner...tax........bulldozer photo nov 2012......said flats
shops going there...often put flats above...........white hart
greenford rd...by golflinks.oct 2012 flats being built on site long time
demolished.pub...........hare hounds civil engineer still open,..... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Dec-2012
our board47..nice photos litten
and garden.....camra pub site is good they say demolished feb
2009.........tucked away down oldfield lane...not notice when
went..residential care home replaced it..long time
ago.......says..bridge pub western ave youngs beer.......blac horse up
there..by canal...london pride beer....white hart yeading lane
open..huge bed breakfast sign........industry read closed......yeading lane pub...........photos greenford load hay and after bomb our board54..etc etc... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 28-Dec-2012
The Litton was a lovely place
that l used a lot about 40 years ago. Put cut cheese on bartop on
Sundays that some other pubs had already stopped doing. Many enjoyable
drinks in the Litton, and also l learned that the Grange at corner of
Grange Road, Ealing Common demolished and turned into block of flats
around the same time too. . I moved to W Sussex 1976 and don't like
going back to west London
and seeing all the horrible "changes". I remember that even in the
early 50s, Greenford was deemed to be the edge of London because of all
the farms/fields of Yeading. I still have an "Uxbridge Area" bus
& train timetable dated 1952 with all local services based on rural
times. So sad Litton has gone the same way - it is not progress at all
and I fear for next generation who will never know what lovely places
have been destroyed
... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2012
holiday season...queens
awards...sir wiggins.....all awards and paralympics....local borough
ealing hillingdon hounslow.........gold letter boxes..there gold
medalists....I had natasha at my library age 11 to 6th form..held the
door open for her .wheelchair..gt girl........freedom of the town..civic
centre ceremonies...etc......gt food drinks....so many enjoy
london...fantastic..day out.we saw new
bomber raf memorial......loads xmas...up there..superb.........and
local high streets lights...well over 10 yrs now fashion..paris
style...tables outside coffee food ..larger etc..huge rise in people
enjoy out like that...xmas lights lovely...gt to see people
enjoy...hairdressers dressed as snow white etc..characters......beck
theatre hayes uxbridge rd gt pantos...know your local pub.that has gt
atmosphere..we have our favourites..boxing day.etc.....sparkle with xmas
holiday season.......or summer gardens....beers
..drinks...food....strole out.... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Dec-2012
I drove around Sipson last week still very much intact fingers crossed
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2012
yes went to..harmondsworth st
marys..ancient pub village there...was nice..very special historic
medieval barn there open to public........car parking.....need to know
what to do.....many places.....not easy....the residents fight..many yrs
about 3rd runway...strong groups...with others......my family..tree
..church books records.....mkt gardening there...so many worked ..there
and around
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Dec-2012
Yes went to Harmonswoth tried
to find plaque to the Halifax bomber crew that were
killed in the waterworks but no joy have to try again
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2012
yes just been to bomber raf new
memorial....war...green pk..piccadily..north side up by hyde pk
corner....skill is amazing of the whole thing..respect..it is
perfect...portland stone..and the statue.....sealed container with photo
of 5 of the boys..left by..somebody..alcove area....opposite..hard rock
cafe and shop..............best xmas have seen of london this
yr..really splendid...gt day out......mbe
olympics...our uxbridge .baker 2
gold..mbe....christensen..glover...gazette..pages on 3 bridges and
hanwell locks .and st mary brent pk hanwell..will write tomorrow when
time hope.....yes harmondsworth my wingrove worked married watts st
mary...historic pub church green lovely village...extremely
special.cathedral beams.of.the largest.special preserve.1300yr
barn..open to public behind church... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Dec-2012
Yes must visit Bomber Command monument first time crew recognized & not before time
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Dec-2012
Just tapped in Google "Photo of
Bomber Command Green Park Piccadilly", and up comes a whole load of
wonderful photos which can be enlarged. It's the next best thing for
those of us who can't get there to see it, including me.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2012
yes photos are good...the
wonderful work gone into it...cost gt deal..but hard long try to get
it...so good they...kept on.....achieve..the queen charles there she
unveiled it...vets there...on tv......how do they achieve the crew
..such artistry...pillars white portland stone...wording latin in
ceiling we took photos....alcove people leave memory...photo of 5
men...north west corner green pk....so
south bit of hyde pk corner...green pk tube 10 mins walk along
pk.....buck palace in the back....seen growth memorials green pk..canada
etc..over the yrs..and queen mum george war yrs...along by queen
mary..memorials..art work..so skilled ..along mall..north side....well
done regent st this yr...gt lights...and seen covent gdn get better
every yr..since start over 20 yrs ago of visitors...areas.....huge xmas
there..river always splendid somerset hse terrace skaters ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jan-2013
HAPPY NEW YEAR.......new tv
sunday itv 9pm mr selfridge...of oxford st store........google..lived
norwood green ..friars lawn 8 bedroom.value 2002 £1018270...his family
there 1935 to 1940 then went to usa...robins 1826 of brickfields by
canal..bricks went to build buck palace..earl jersey land...had friars
lawn.....listed building architecture...1980s hayley mills lived
there....attached to to grange
similar building.my wingrove there 1911..mkt gardener.......google site
remembers the well known post office bakers there red letter box
outside..phylis and mine gdads there...1914 years woodbine
cottages.........more photos our boards at the ends...additions
added..extra pages..flickr.....LOCAL ALL YEARS>ALL areas..memories ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jan-2013
money bought engines..passengers
taxi.trips.payed for.....lincs again......only one flies.....so after
decades trying they hope to fly..this as 2nd one..lancaster
bomber....panton brothers..in excellent condition in their
hanger.museum.......their older brother died his plane war .grave in
europe....computer page sky news...lovely photos seal...all these
floods...up the river ouse east anglia...came up to st ives cambridge..in flooded field...seal found... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Jack (Member 10165328) on 2-Jan-2013
Happy New Year everyone. Talking
about Bomber Command, I am named after my uncle who was killed in WW2.
He was a gunner in a Lancaster which collided with another one on the
way to bomb a target in Germany on 1 February 1945. He is buried in
Northern France. The wireless operator had an amazing escape. The plane
was on fire and going down, and he grabbed a parachute pack as it
bounced past him. Holding
on to the aircraft with one hand, he put the chute on and jumped out of
a hole that appeared in the side of the plane. Both he and the pilot
survived. I have got his gunners wings, and I donated his log book to
the RAF Museum at Hendon. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jan-2013
I was at East Kirby about 2
months ago & watched Lancaster NX611 Just Jane taxing
but i think theres a bit more than changing the engines
before it flies, i think theres some serious work to be done
on the main wing spars due to corrosion from its time at
Blackpool
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jan-2013
very sorry to hear..glad you gave
to hendon...we have been couple times to hendon....it is very good
there......find my past is interesting tv series on channel 19.yesterday
channel..available to all....tues8th..gt escape.9pm.....they do family
tree of 3 ancestors,,,then they meet up...tell all the stories....they
have done most other things already...records lately that they look
up..army..raf etc..census
birth.marriage..and workhouse...and burials of the children
there..book..with..map of names..where lay.....imperial war museum 10
mins from westminster bridge have been several times..very
good......brooklands good where they built some of the war planes....dad
worked heston airport.....he was born by near canal...by there..fell in
canal age 4 brother got him out..nan worked ticklers..aunt worked
kearley tongs..uncle worked tube gordon rd.cousins dad worked
maypole.his mum worked town hall....2 worked gas...gdad worked rt
warren..building so many houses local....... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jan-2013
yes denis it has been on tv..news
all day..2 nice brothers...taxi.passengers...this one..getting quite
bit money..they hope get enough to do more to it....looks gt on the
outside..but..........dylis on here ..went there..year ago...she told us
the sound she remembered from war southall....engines....her family day
out she enjoyed there...hendon has some plane...flights.....
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jan-2013
Due to the Panton Bros efforts it is magnificent aeroplane
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2013
today...news...spits after 17 yr
annual search...36 found burma..search by modern radar
etc...craters...he hopes to use in 3yrs time air shows.....bound to be
in google news...tine team etc...gt archaeology..every yr
documentaries..digs land ..or deep sea....very interesting...etc etc..
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2013
MIDSUMMER
MURDER.MIDDLESEX....LOCAL...NORTH OF UXBRIDGE....TV TODAY AT GRAND
UNION.LOCK..PUB..SWANS..LOCATIONS PHOTOS FILM IN GOOGLE..SWORD
GUILAMI..AND GREEN MAN EPISODES......LONG SERIES THEY DO
LOCAL..CHALFONT..OFTEN CHURCHES VILLAGE GREEN COTTAGES ETC...MY FAMILY
TREE AKERS RICHARDSON..CHURCH ROTHERFIELD PEPPARD.NEAR SO ...OXON..USED
WE HAVE BEEN..SIGHT SEEING..DAYS.......lido..info lady.centre
there says..napolionic wars..1800.....so worry to get army .all
equipment....to thames ..london..chatham..etc...build
canals..1801.etc..grand junction....reservoir lido..to feed it..but
found river brent yeading brook was enough...and wars
ended.....coppermills closed for bottom war boats speed.....gt nature
reserves now..water.people feed them all..and fisherman..often... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 7-Jan-2013
My husband and I were lucky
enough to see the Lancaster bomber flying a couple of years ago, whilst
sitting in the garden on a summers day, we heard the engines and looked
up it was very low and circled our village three or four times, it was
early for a flyover that it was doing for the Silverstone Circuit, it
was a magnificent sight one that lives in our memories.
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2013
thats lovely jean..today they
have arrived burma airport just there radarhas found buried 1945 in
crates..36 spitfires ..they hope in 3 yrs to have fly in air
displays....the fly at buckingham palace...goes on to northolt middx
airport tip wings in salute...
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jan-2013
Just shows how things change. I
would never have been listening to news on LBC reporting an accident in
Southall years ago. Now, I have just heard that a car has overturned
underneath the Railway Bridge, and the whole of Greenford road is now at
a standstill. I can just picture it. Utter chaos!
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2013
in google....says 21 mins
ago...rush hour getting busy....says reopened..uxbridge rd iron bridge
greenford rd.......after earlier police car overturned..recovery work
earlier........ironbridge.no direct turn many yrs now.......up north
greenford rd...thick traffic daily to greenford station rail
bridge.........new yr was that bad overturn m6...think was lady couple
kids...was it brain.blood problem..cause
her seizure......couple accidents over new yr..heard..was..driver taken
ill.......not so many lay bys these days pull over.....wish more lay
bys........read map etc etc...not all sat navs..ha.....never seem chance
to stop....etc.....wait till far off roundabout to turn round if
lucky........police do loads chase now..siren etc.........sharpe bend
iron bridge....conjest area...bad..thick traffic......olympic torch went
under crowds there watched hot day july.... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2013
good site bbc travel news 21 mins
ago 52 mins ago..tells of traffic trouble cleared..etc..west london
etc..was before 4pm..windmill lane junction ironbridge junction
greenford rd ..police car turned over....but cleared..for rush
hr....slough henley etc..also today..transport stats say..one of the
biggest incidents world now..today new york ferry crash 50 people
injured ..etc........gt photo ruislip
book on mail on line....getty...9 kids jam jars 1950...weigh ..balance
weigh,,hanging down...tiddler..boy makes notes girls hold jars ha....40s
50s nostalgia schuster published book..photos....conkers etc..our board
flickr..50 and 54...1928.aerial new greenford rd..there..redlion got
built new 1937...couple shops only..fields ..only few houses
1928...playhouse theatre... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2013
IN GOOGLE>>>NORWOOD
GREEN AND £ BRIDGES NEW PARK.opens 2013 spring..photo lovely letters 3
bridges..clever there on our photoboard hedging trees wild flowers..on
site of old sea cadets place...heritage money and also ealing
broadway.walpole pk..digs to find history of park..now....sir john soane
beautiful bridge..they search under for older original one...1700 and
before......kate oil painting our
flickr board.unveil today middletons wills there...nat portrait
gallery...gt visits lovely of royals and photos..thames and
fens..constable stour..gt tv rivers by griff jones...now...fishing
boating etc equisite....of our travels also.. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2013
yes it is ..gunnesbury park local
social history base ..for boroughs....they have 1st 30 oral memories
collected from people ..local...1940s50s,,,,asking for more..wings
victory parade walpole pk...raid shelters..etc..my friend age 80s at
heston...gave her long pages account memories...country councils.archive
has been doing this several yrs now.....ancient trees walpole pk...in
google says many many
£1000s..being spent 2013...heritage..sports etc...and 3 bridges.windmill
lane..park.....leisure seats...canal....london they went up top new
shard..views..40 miles..tallest in western europe....different photos
our flickr 54 and 50 etc etc..local..all years ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Jan-2013
Just been on the WW2 bomb map its a brilliant tool for research & very interesting
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2013
YES LOTS PEOPLE
INTERESTED>>GREENFORD SITE PRAISE>>IT>>>archive
only let info out recently...they will add more as year goes
along......arp reports to council...source....loads..great photos our
boards....50...54...etc etc....all yrs local...gt memories......new park
at norwood green.3 bridges......PHYLIS>>>IS THERE CAR PK
THERE...
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jan-2013
the film last night
tv....margaret humphries..book..2011 film..uk oz governments 40s 50s
160000 orphans full ships deported..oz etc etc..£5 day keep kid..only
10th cost to keep kid in oz..but farm slave labour catholic monks
mistreat etc...nottingham council payed her work..then oz and uk gov
did...cbe from queen and oz awards nottongham uni awards..now given to
her...uncover truth..find mums..etc...change
of name but find real names...family tree work..1600s kids sent to
virginia..1800s..kids sent off...our southall 1800s green outer london
so dense london sent.masses to southall.institutions....northhyde..500
.st mary catholic.orphans babies etc.age 12 shipped to canada....today
newsletter catholics..still cant find presumed demolished 16 foot high
stone war memorial 80 boys war died 3 with.high brave medals....names
should be recarved on heston memorial..but 1950 ba demolished..60 yrs
nothing done..constant complaints....4 main asylums southall shrubbery
southall pk..south rd..featherstone rd..1800s..1900...good film made
some mothers etc were found..kids told family dead wrongly ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jan-2013
mike..........1954 near you 40
north rd.lived.d stoneman..scout master..organised the football.....in
google......north ave was my aunt.....also sea scouts 3 bridges
canal...photos our flickr board..and new park there carved glossy wood
seating shaped letters of 3 bridges.clever......osterley sea scouts now
using thames 2012......stargazing..tv..was good...ruislip lido..300 to
500 use telescopes..january.grass
looking south .across the water...and using uxbridge for
meetings..trips to wales..west of london astronical society..clear
nights we had great at garden..tony.few yrs has all the names now.. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 13-Jan-2013
No car park that I know if for
the new Three Bridges park, but no parking restrictions in Tentelow
Lane. It is a big improvement over the old Sea Scouts area. Just a pity
about the big block of flats they are building next to it. Also now
building on the site next to the Plough after years of the Residents
Assoc fighting against it. Calling it "Tentelow Gardens"! They were
given "permission" to knock down the Old Stable Block, which was a listed building! ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jan-2013
so kind of you
phylis...thanks.....gt tentelow good.....got lovely photo of clever
woodcarved seats..shaped 3 bridges letters.........north side of
canal...the glade lane park.......but this new must be south
side.........well done residents committee...love the signs welcome norw
green gold green...at 3 bridges and wolf pub.........sorry build at
plough...shame......keep up the good work.....unique
area saved now over 60s..dedicated residents.....thanks gt to hear
you..my dear....we love 3 bridges and stroll to hanwell locks...fox pub
got 3 awards last yr......gdad worked with .r.t.warren .many yrs..they
built up lots houses around.......old stables have plate glass old
photos of..norwood green and smithy.......etc etc...yrs of collecting
and interest..... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Jan-2013
TV next week Dan Snow
history of railways the Wharnclife Viaduct ect. sounds like big
changes at the 3 bridges more old Middx swept away even
listed buildings is nothing safe
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jan-2013
3 bridges still ok..along
canal..for canal walk tow path..enhanced by park..wildfower seeds
planted hedges trees..south side by tentlow lane..south canal
side..called 3 bridge pk..used to be sea scout gun..their training
canoes...they do it thames now..called osterley scouts.......gt seats at
new park..in google..photo......glossy wood carved..like pine..in shape
of huge letters 3 bridges very artistic
clever,,,,lawns ornate miniture hedges.landscaped..seeds
wildflowers..school go..for history of area....lots in google
about....preserve..adore the heritage unique brunel..by ealing
council...has cost loads money..project....enhance the heritage...loads
in google about .it...small park...small area...to one side...,,,,,3
bridges ok...new sign there pretty ornate says welcome to norwood
green.....3 bridges..still there delicate bridge..careful traffic
there......yes snow usually does gt history...we are looking forward to
his ..rail programme,,,,,,gt tv...are lucky...bbc..... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jan-2013
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/71/a5118671.shtml
in google.norwood green..bbc memories by people 30s 40s 50s....9
different pages by s tobitt his gt gran...40s plough
pub..osterley..rations..war etc.etc...the green fetes years ago..may day
queen..heston park..
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jan-2013
http://www.friarslawn.co.uk/historyselfridge.html
son and family of tv harry selfridge..1935 friars lawn norwood
green..memories..1940 spring they went to usa......old harry founder of
store regent st ..american of scots ancestry...chicago shop..ideas for
the new changes zeal.of..wave of gt ideas..london store 1909,,high snobs
wealthy local londoners...gentry....friars.georgian 4 storey..elm trees
of norwood green..photos etc..and board50/54.flickr...grange attached
had 7 rooms 1911 wingrove white lived family and servant....mkt
gardener..nan wingrove family 1802 onwards norwood green...farm workers
etc..biscoe school..northyde and southall green .uxbridge spread.of
working.. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jan-2013
HMV/EMI gone dad worked there
before the war making sound boxes the bit with the micer
disc where the needles went in on wind up gramophones very sad
another bit of Middx. history gone
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jan-2013
knew hmv..at piccadily..along
by..trocadero..hmv oxford st.....stylus..memories of all the fiddly..arm
across the records..get the fluff off the stylus..ha....cloth wipe the
records..nice sleeves emi had them in..decca etc.......police call blue
phone boxes on board50..54,...war tall siren by them....hillingdon
cirus.western ave ..one by the pub..hayes...etc...heston village by
church one....photos..flickr..aa .box... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jan-2013
That should be MICA DISC
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jan-2013
so very sad...8 am.....helicopter
hit crane 50 storey flats being built near thames lambeth palace...near
rail...cars hit red flames black smoke..battersea heliport
nearby...these tall cranes sticking up...helicopters so vunerable of
stability...shard took shortish while build...amazing..little further by
london bridge southwark cathedral....london bridge station ,the shard
tallest n europe...views from top,,40 mls.... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jan-2013
They say theres nothing new we appear to have the modern version of the old pig bins back
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2013
freeview 14 tv now.....carry on
constable ealing film....done hanwell west ealing..inside,store, rowses
and outside along windows rowses and high st.....west ealing....rowse
store...photos our board54..50...flickr....
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Jan-2013
I was telling my grandchildren
about the pig bins only last week, Dennis. I don't know how it would go
in Australia with our high temperatures e.g. yesterday was 41deg c
(105.8f) and last night only dropped to 31c (87.8f) so the food would
get pretty rank I'd imagine.
Still if it works in UK then so be it. I wonder what the all invasive EU will say no doubt some new silly regulation that the French & others ignore & we English will follow. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2013
some of our nutrition
bits...taken liked by birds...robin blackbird.rooks
magpie..pigeons...squirrel.....starling....feed to keep warm..minus
temperatures night day...3 yrs some die cold...6yrs
some.survive...lovely bbc winterwatch on tv...daily......cameras on all
life...creatures....we do rspb..survey in week or so...soon..loads of
country do it......redkite...reintoduced...chilterns.....a40 western ave....middlesex areas..seen each yr now...huge beautiful..eat meat.... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jan-2013
Hi Fred i remember mum used
to boil the pig bin every time it was emptied, we have just
been issued with fancy black & silver plastic bins a bit
different to the metal bins issued by Southall council in
the 1950s it all seems as tho old times have returned here
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jan-2013
Put 2 crushed seed & fat
balls out for the birds they say put water out to did this
to as they tell us birds showed no interest what so ever
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2013
yes.....birdbath freezes...so
daily...water put to it....robin blackbird comes on it..about late
pm.......songbirds always like drink..also squirrel cat ..push
themselves up on it drink....fox..long brush heavy tail quite
ginger...lady over back puts high table bits scrap of fish...seagulls
circle swoop......blue tits gt tits eat insects trees......gy bbc
tv..beaver..dam..and lodge with couple baby
kits in it....snow all day friday....rail daily tv good
programmes...history..went to london bricks....clay...peterborough..rail
there.carbon in clay bake..5 days in kiln start like northhyde used to
be and southall green brick works..making....london rail dan snow next
episode...rocket was gt tv episode.....1830 year...midlands and
canals...trade cargo..huge.... ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jan-2013
I think that would be Fletton brick from P/boro there is still a brick works there
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2013
yes portilo there in the last
year tv...bbc 26.30 daily...large flat site....flat boggy land all
around..ouse river floods..last brick making..peterborough had many 10s
of brickworks..many............my gdad gt gdad worked kilns..wives kids
age 9/12 in those days....northyde southall green 1850 to 1930....payed
by number bricks they made...1000s..moulds..bake 5 days..then cool off
clever hard work.10days
then carts rail took off to hounslow.northhyde lane old track rd...or
rail canal transport..buck palace built....winter no work..frost to get
into clay..then work it later...so gravel pits..land of became heston
airport.. ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jan-2013
Yes also remains of prehistoric settlement found in this boggy area
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2013
yes he spoke of area..6.30 last
night...gt filming tv..of ..excavating....sutton hoo..in british
museum...fantastic..east anglia...etc..he said only one brick
making..left....there...special carbon clay..helped the high temperature
firing......meant photos snow over spikes park..photos .1970 1960 our
boards...flickr....the high boots came in in 60s....zip up...very
good...cold at bus stop....or shops
etc....freeze fog smog of 50s....till smokeless fuel clean air came
in.....fox today...robin blackbird..woodpigeons..early
morning......magpies nest...apple icecream cider..somerset..west
country..janice.......cream teasicecream ..the
flavour....ha....strawberry sauce ... more >>
- Re: Happy Christmas
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jan-2013
A seal has recently been seen in Orton lock P/boro
- Re: Happy Christmas
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2013
it was few weeks ago....tv news
photo one also..lost...coming in..from east..over east anglia.....dear
souls.get lost.......such huge area ..drained made land so many yrs
ago......we have been few times...areas ..there..holidays.....seals on
bbc2 winterwatch was good..tv....nature tv..recently 50%..loss of
mother..or young..die..all reasons..thats nature...lost creatures stray
etc...marvellous photography tv now....uk and world ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Dec-2012
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A new 1st Class postage stamp that will be on sale next year is a
picture of Boston Manor underground station. I have seen a picture of
it and you might be able to see a picture of it now (or you will do
soon) on one of the Post Office websites
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2012
LOVELY PHOTOS TODAY..found on our
board54..wednesday 4dec....his visit southall 27 nov....74 saxon
rd...alley to dane rd....spikes bridge tudor rd school...not our ron cox
from australia is it...gt photos thanks..hope you had nice
trip..holiday...memories nostalgia....thanks for share your dear photos
gt to see.....is it ron..or...74 looks gt..alley..nice wide
bikes...tarmac..bike bars at entrance...bet
it has changed bit since walk to school tudor rd........bombsight ..in
google new site..shows 1940..41...they will add more later....bomb tudor
rd lancaster rd,..and top..of saxon..along..alexandra rd..along that
bit...broadway....on arp .map..council.records..now at kew archive..free
in google with 1940 map southall etc.....gas works...regina
rd...hayes...etc.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2012
yes it is you ron..photo at
spikes bridge alley..17 mar 2010...our site here you chatted to pauline
len david....your family hse moved in 1939 74 saxon..by bike
alley.....other alley 60 dane rd.....so glad you visited...several of us
now have gone back had look round same places as your nov 2012
photos.....hope you and family...are good.....hope gt holiday all the
way from.oz..27 hrs when I went 1970
round world.£50.new york la..fiji ..sydney...back darwin hong
kong.thailand.across to heathrow....canal still looks ok..2010 we walked
tow path...new spikes bridge park in progress.....2012/3......tudor rd
school does gt job...and involved in new organ.st george.....caretaker
has shown many 70ish year old round during holidays..nostalgia.... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Dec-2012
Thanks Ron for photos of Southall
taken on your holiday in UK on Board 54. It's all changed now though,
although still nice to see.I expect the ghosts of the past are still
walking across that old Spikes Bridge with the squeaky wooden boards and
the ledge across the outside where we all walked for a dare!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Dec-2012
squeaky boards yes...spikes
sticking out..they put to try stop kids keep climbing....rope across
..kids in water all pranks there..40s 50s 60s....hope ron had nice
weather....beginning november was so nice......we had great days out
canal.rivers...blue sky.warm..but hope..ron not catch rain that came in
around 27th....happy england visit ron..great photos southall
thanks....greenford church...4,30
today..midwife 3.30....then xmas special should be so very
good..1950s.so well done..bbc tv.......alley to spikes ron got himself
under the southall sign..to take back to sydney..bikes go through his
school alley his house 74 right on the alley....caretaker several have
said takes you round tudor school at school holidays....voices of kids
are gt..buzz.life...so yes 100s of past pupils...schools funny at
empty.holiday day..strange without voices din..of primary or
seniors..around playground or corridor...mind you we had single
file..silence corridors between lessons..prefects on corners...etc
etc..memories.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Dec-2012
dear patrick moore passed away
today 89..of pinner middlesex,,,lived selsey sussex..we were near there
last yr..brian may.guitarist of feltham middx,,and others..follow...the
work of...space...we have always..very good wishes..his school library
books..always filled the shelves...and tv sky at night.....4 march 1923
pinner
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2012
greenford holy cross church.....7
days left on bbc iplayer..computer see songs praise....was good...war
greenford..searchlights horsendon hill...rations...local book authors
local social history..mr bartlett,,,his family ironmongers ealing... mr
hounsdell....lovely choir...next episode march.......1939 extra new
church needed..tiny yr1200 1400 church..farms..growth 1930
greenford.factories houses etc...so
built huge oak beam..like barn..church...saw 2 xmas then 1941
dedicated..1947..ceremony...pantos there...cold bbc filming soundman had
to turn noisy heating off....photos...there..and 21 photos .at
site....my nans mum...from cranford lane then before botwell hayes..then
before james and george timberlake lots brothers sisters..baptised
greenford holy cross 1780.years..timberlake..farms...then to
brickfields...horse keeper also...etc lots on greenford etc etc. ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Dec-2012
I watched Songs of Praise last
night on BBC1, from Holy Cross Church,Greenford. There were a lot of
people there who were elderly, and their recollections of Christmas
during the war brought back a lot of memories.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2012
yes ...they were marvellous to
have spoken so interesting.......lady has mbe..her daughter in law
said...lady of salvation army .with hubby in band.......greenford
scouts......2 men authors of famous books local social history..who
speak at ealing library and schools..hounsell and..bartlett..whose
parents had hardware ealing..he was evacuated.but like many came
back..fairly quickly....baptist church
was bombed....top of mornington rd .was bombed,,,,,mike heard
from..north rd lunchtime.........incenduries..greenford grammar new
school roof kids...knocked off.....queen elizabeth of king george visted
opening of new church.holy cross..only 5 minutes walk behing greenford
shops....queen mary george visited ferrymead being constructed
1930s..all photos our boards....my nan of west ave ..before the common
and northhyde....her mum ..gt gt from holy cross greenford farms
1780...timberlake.....21 photos of songs praise and film of it in
google...next is march.....3 yrs ago bbc tv was also there.......quiet
lane graveyard..church lays back for .vans cameras..vicarage they are
fighting to keep but think it is to be housing.........brit legion
opposite..community centre ..famous railway pub..litten.gone...tony
myself lived there 14 yrs.....big sainsbury gone but bifg tesco in
granada cinema theatre...many photos all our boards..greenford talk of
southall often..houses merge together there like one town...... ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Dec-2012
I remember the Mornington Road
incident well. I was home for lunch, and my mum was talking over the
fence to Mrs Pannell at No.76 North Road. Suddenly, without any air
raid siren, there was AA gun fire, then machine gun fire, then the sound
of falling bombs. We learned later these had fallen in Mornington Road,
and there had been a number of casualties.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2012
mornington rd in
google.......gives account from dennis upton bk..war....5 days after
medway drive perivale bombing near a40 western ave...they tried for ammo
factories northolt airport.......30 sept.1940.says 6 enemy planes
daylight bombs..6yr old keith peters killed of 37 dead.....then looters
house had to be rebuilt after war his mum lived there till she
died.......kids got pennies to brush area
and get bricks for reuse...policeman was just earning.tiny bit too much
to get free shelter..so his wife kids had to go in neighbour
shelter....old sainsbury greenford.woman turned up for work on bike
bandaged hands in daze.not know why bandages....whistle noise stopped
.doodle bug.....my aunts worked munitions...aunt walked streets west ave
black out duty... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2012
25 sept 1940...medway drive .near
western ave..houses only 3 yrs old...parachute mine..like load hay
pub.......6 killed...king queen visit mayor..photos gazette.......man
layed over his wife to protect her...30 injured.....heston..target
heston airport..my family there since 1850.....her hubby 1st war
survived somme with his brother...born 1887..heston grave 1944
dead..direct hit..buzz bomb...age 58
on his way to work on bike....hardly body to bury..3 grave wife
brother...heston all lives..worked.pub..never went anywherefrom heston
village ..rural folk....map of 1940 .41..being added to for
1944..45....kew archive council...accounts....online...last week for 1st
time.........southall pk...etc ..all there on
map..1940s....aec.motorwks...they were making armoured
vehicles.....german map of southall on our photos....targets ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Dec-2012
Many years ago i meet a
person in the Yeading area who was a casualty in Mornington
Road he had been hit by 2 bullets in the back
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Dec-2012
on google account of
mornington..how bad it was.....and the new site..in
google...bombsight.....right click of the red blob..on the rd gives more
info.....the freeview tv..repeated buck palace..plane..came up the
mall..queen king lascelles..by couple seconds just missed ran to
shelter..chapel and south corner of palace bombed....gallery open to the
public..he showed me the room..used to be chapel....did
family tree 1861...my gt gt gt aunt..wingrove servant from norwood
green at precint savoy strand by river.....savoy ancient.royal. church
says qmum used..must be war when the chapel buck palace.got
destroyed.....near victoria station..they got the nazi pilot..next few
days king queen went to east end..could look them in face
better...enders said hear you got bombed too your majesty.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Dec-2012
quite lot of southall and
greenford people spread out to yeading...area for most yrs was always
just open fields.brick workers pub..then..fast rapid growth
houses......we lived 14 yrs near mornington and the neighbours still
talked of bad bombing....library had display boards history
greenford.....about week or so we had stand pipe.buckets water .just by
mornington....no water because huge job new
bigger ..pipes layed..down roads...last couple yrs.have realised old
maps..how bad the river brent flooding could spread out...glad bigger
pipes layed low lying areas.. .wimpeys built up whole area there 1928 my
aunt s brother in law worked on it all.... ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Dec-2012
I seem to remember that a small boy playing in his back garden in Mornington Road was killed by machine gun bullets.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Dec-2012
what are they doing......is it
northolt airport.spits..chasing off..nazi planes..chase..greenford being
near...google says the chase from northolt airport..raf...down south
through yeading to uxbridge rd by warley where tony lived and
shakespeare ave....across uxbridge rd..to hayes town....people said the
damage fear done by machine guns....was worse than some of the
bombs.......reconaissance....some
of the nazi..plane maps..on our photo boards..they .had all the
factories etc there...but not precision bombing of today.....and escape
get rid of weight of bombs..before to get back over the
channel......mornington rd,,,long straight rd...all humps .in all the
roads around there now..to stop speeding...... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Dec-2012
some trivia tony just
said.......humpty dumpty..from colchester civil war royalists
cromwell....humpty name of canon on wall of st mary..came off the wall
all the kings horses all the kings men not put back.on a wall.back
together again...nostalgia toys tv...had scalextric..dinky.toys..started
with war bomb sites .cement mixer etc for kids..interest.....tonight
bbc 2 ..9.30....interesting james may toy model glinder plane.cross channel....gt tv radio music this holiday ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Dec-2012
I have read that a lot of
casualties that where shot were caused by R.A.F fighters
shooting German aircraft. Yvonne you mention the Victoria
Station Dornier that was rammed by Ray Holmes aircraft some
weeks ago i saw the remains of the engine from his aircraft
after it was recovered from road works in London
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Dec-2012
yes the king queen said 2 mins
earlier they would hve died..heard the plane come up the mall sound and
looked out wasnt ours..ran only just escaped to under shelter..that side
of buck palace..dormier...yes pilot...greenford facebook site of
memories nostalgia,,,,,they say,,the old 1930s race track site...north
lady marg rd...had army depot war..nazi find out everything...making for
that or northolt
airport..ammo munition factories..........greenford say their ice cream
tonis..was ron valente..1970 he opened small ice cream factory..lady
marg rd southall.....lots greenford people at that top roundabout for
olympic torch....greenford grammar housed the 1948..olympic
people..contestants...... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
I have just been in
Southall i see the Singer sewing machine shop next to the
Three Horse Shoes has gone after all these years
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Dec-2012
well done ..visit...yes thought
it had..in last couple yrs..thought saw recent photo somewhere..it
looked gone....yr 1900..one of the oldest shops......3 horseshoes still
open suppose.................red lion..tends to be
hotel......scaffolding suppose still up northcote arms.........palace
cinema..boards..coffee shop there...........lady tramp 1955 good film
over the holiday........gt xmas music....dodge showers....white hart.demolished along there high st........ ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
Greenford Red Lion now gone
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Dec-2012
I can remember the army depot it was in Kensington Lane there where football & rugby pitches
to on the site of what is now the Greenford Northola
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Dec-2012
yes..its the famous ancient smith
farm...opposite on east side....to entrance northala...the still have
it on the gate of the old farmhouse...........lots of the greenford
site..nostalgia....talk of the army depot...near on the area of the
1920s 30s..pony track races....gentry from london came on rail to
northolt station........photos our board..the names the housing estate
roads on it around it built
afterwards...so named..newmarket ave etc etc.........war came 1939 used
lot of the empty open space there for army depot................think
read some prisoners war around that way at one stage.........vic
wood...channel 10 housewife45...so well acted..30s 40s....life..into the
after war......years changes....interesting so well done....... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Dec-2012
Yes my Aunt & Uncle lived on Thursk Close in the 50s
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jan-2013
Greenford Red Lion now gone as
Denis says and so has the famous Tolworth Red Lion too. Built almost
to the same design - both were once Fullers Brewery pubs I think and
built almost at the same time, and now a massive block of flats built
Tolworth in next to no time. Builders will make a fortune, but social
life collapses as people have nowhere to go.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jan-2013
Greenford Red Lion now gone as
Denis says and so has the famous Tolworth Red Lion too. Built almost
to the same design - both were once Fullers Brewery pubs I think and
built almost at the same time, and now a massive block of flats built
Tolworth in next to no time. Builders will make a fortune, but social
life collapses as people have nowhere to go.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jan-2013
Greenford Red Lion now gone as
Denis says and so has the famous Tolworth Red Lion too. Built almost
to the same design - both were once Fullers Brewery pubs I think and
built almost at the same time, and now a massive block of flats built
Tolworth in next to no time. Builders will make a fortune, but social
life collapses as people have nowhere to go.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jan-2013
Sorry. Something wrong. First 2 attempts, messages didn't go then on third try all 3 have come up!!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jan-2013
2 rare pictures redlion greenford
on our boards..47..or one of them....yr 1900..with wife kids
outside..also.before with smithy.next to it....wagon hay horse unwin
underwood farmer...photos of the boarding...bulldozer empty space there
nov 2012 on our boards.....the old maps we have show it there......
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jan-2013
gazette in google...lots info
there....1930 current pub built.....freehold bought from brewery by be
blacks clearview homes...locals demand mixed site shops pub below..flats
above...photos board47.....application for redevelop demolish.went to
ealing 1995..brewery said not viable any more..huge amount money council
make every year from yellow box there..bus lane to otter road.greenford
bus rest place...go in
yellow box huge fines..google has figures....traffic lights ...many yrs
busy crossroads...famous stall...still there.....loads interesting
photos brent floods over years..on our boards....locally.... ... more >>
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New Stamp
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Dec-2012
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A new 1st Class postage stamp that will be on sale next year is a
picture of Boston Manor underground station. I have seen a picture of
it and you might be able to see a picture of it now (or you will do
soon) on one of the Post Office websites
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2012
THEY ARE LOVELY..HUGE SIZE IN
GOOGLE..THANKS KEITH....art deco boston manor 1934...osterley is
amazing...lots of our stations interesting....stmp..new canary wharf
also...amazing..been few times...high down into modern tube...off lakes
docks...banks skyscrapers...150 yrs tube oldest in the
world.2013........9th jan stamps//transport museum ..been few
times..good.covent garden....acton depot open every
yr many yrs now good.......south ealing..northfields....some dont
realise the number wonderful handy tube stations about...ruislip has
4.....new site...bombsight...in google..is getting lots
interest..southall...heston...greenford...northolt..west ealing
ealing...etc...left click for 1940 map..southall....right click..bomb
info...zoom...drag across.....so much there fascinating... ... more >>
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