Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by David Taylor (Member 10103609) on 5-May-2013
I can show you how to make great savings on your household and business utilities. I can also introduce you to an opportunity to make a second income, simply by helping your friends and family to save money.

Ask me for more information.

David Taylor.
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  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
    RARE FILM...in google...movietone...1963 3 oct beeching cuts union strike..southall people getting to work..car traffic going up to traffic lights,,right.george dragon..left.sweet shop corner.o odeon cinema.uxbridge rd..hanwell bus garage.high st hanwell..no trains sign..dead rail sheds..no movement..hoover factory..boofont.hair.backcombed.60s girls going work stiletoes..those fine thin gergette s... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
    ha....morning .weather on bbc.tv...carol..at ruislip lidon..swans coutts.tufted ducks.beach..new restaurant opens june...chuff chuff train.light rail..hootsloud..60 yrs now ..one steam..40 mins around..by woods...good film..on today tv..am bbc news...where cliff sang for young ones film...no row boats now..but rare black swan....gulls..etc .fishing...cordys being spoken..of..old days..parade betwe... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-May-2013
    Yvonne & all Ruislip lido on 6 O/clock BBC news it looked packed.

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-May-2013
    Yvonne, I can never find these old bits of film and photos you mention but I'd like to and I wonder what I'm doing wrong

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
    IF PAULINE..FRED CAN..GIVE MORE IDEAS.....LOTS PEOPLE..USE FLICKR..they have flickr..lots viewings our photos by general......back through our pages here..have written it out dozen times.....see the entries......dilys uses it..ron...len did..dennis has own flickr also...etc etc

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
    yes bank hol ..hot so unusual.....but nice..people like it....yes national news through country ..london lake and ruislip lido...light railway..famous train..one steam..etc.etc

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
    6 am bbc van there camera..weather girl carol..mist at 1st..9 am..bbc tv weather and sun.swans..empty.just nature reserve black swan..etc.etc..bank hols so..unusual crowd went....lovely film on tv..cliff filmed sang young ones there benny hill filming there etc...speed bird campbell there...info centre nature centre there photos etc..restaurant cafe...pub etc..used to be waterski....olympics train... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-May-2013
    Campbell gave a demo of Bluebird at the lido says he gave the throttle a blip & the boat was across the lido.

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
    yes..lido society there...room.displys etc etc..in google about it all..and campbell...yes...300 ft long lido yr1810 to feed canal...feeder came out hayes bridge southall but filled in..not needed brent river crane enough..hearn hamlet cottages complained but canal.flooded theirs..gt birds etc there....black swan..heron..etc etc..waterski gone..this yr .decide what to bring back..of lido waters for kids...

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-May-2013
    just found my photo.....blue bird ...high water swoosh.speed ruislip lido lake...april 1959....pauline..have been told today northcote pub still boarded the same....have asked to be let know..what happens there..when....new tv series.yesterday channel 19..freeview...shooting war..film.tonight 11pm..women..

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-May-2013
    lovely set 6 ..stamps..head...queen for june 60yrs abbey coronation...very well done...beauty stamps...state open parliament tomorrow..tour of manor hse..read that there is tunnel under rd to west side of southall green...1856 manor hse...wonder if it was tunnel..to featherstone hall of ..wolsey....who had henry 8th visit..to lord manor...and henry went..dormans manor hse deer pk..hunting to syon..hse...

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-May-2013
    Thanks Yvonne for the latest news on the "Northcote". Although I didn't ever go in the pub, apart from getting my mum's Guinness in the Off Licence, it was still a part of our lives while we lived there. I expect, like me, you will also have a very clear picture of the hive of activity that went on there. Not having cars in those days, we always had to walk past it to get to our house further down... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-May-2013
    yes delays many yrs.of derelict..because listed..edwardian..deco....say hotel or old peoples home..will let you know...yes wayy of life was so rich vivid..buzzed with social activity..worked hard..but social life interaction...my 2 uncles..had to be dragged to leave west ave..northcote was .after work..their friends social life..weekends only....money not gt..but pint beer join darts team..aunt wo... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-May-2013
    got photo yesterday......of emma..hubby george..gladys who married bunce..and our dear joan northcote table beer....gt close up good quality photo 1950s..he died 1961..emma not till 1980ish....grandaughter bought it still there..magic computers contact..exchanged photos..gave her mine...thoughts leave..australia..seems signs of but her children..local...so she is the last of that huge corner of hi... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-May-2013
    Yvonne-the name Bunce rings a distant bell. The caretaker of North Road School-I was there 1934-1940-was a Mr Bunce- he had a house in Meadow Road. We used to see him occasionally when he was called in to clear up vomit!

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-May-2013
    geneology searches census 1911..and .ifo later...quite a few bunce around southall and nearby.......inlaws...was northcote ave one..of brothers..his dad...1935 yrs.....our one married..bought hse windsor..moved there had son..........marriages 1935 yrs .our ones stag nights hen nights the working full time fiance...they used northcote pub..getting together revolved around pub neighbours friends th... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-May-2013
    britain from above ...free site in google....aerial..1923 1932...southall..rail canal..brentford gas co..the low..items..before high holder built greman design 1930ish..300ft ish tall...scott emulsion..factories..clear from air..after war .returns of 1918/9.....quieter...1928/30 council housing..getting into..build up...gradually....1935..charter mayor borough southall to 1965..carnival photos fil... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-May-2013
    mr meads bk is nice...tudor rd school mr coleman caretaker..10yrs..and of caretaker name there for southall county sch grammar...tudor opened 1906/7 woolford miss head..250 pupils..gas light to 1952..no phone till 1948..1954 dormers primary opened...celeb 150 yrs north rd 1851..old school...

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-May-2013
    At Southall County School (which it was called when I was there)the first Headmaster was Mr Pollitt, and the first Caretaker was Mr Albert Perkins who employed Richard Meads when he was nine and a half doing errands for 1/- per week (5p).

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-May-2013
    dennis......wonderful....navy today illustrious...greenwich..70 yrs bttle atlantic..bk we did at school fo gce ..cruel sea....see 10yrs now ..new flats canary wharf etc...o2....vets..there..ensign....pilots air crriers....food to brits war...etc....bomb alley....uboats..convoys.....fly past..7pm..now

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-May-2013
    hubby and I been through thames barrier.couple times gt..16 hrs from portsmouth..our favourite day out...one show bbc tv...swordfish..helped sink bismark...fly past...helicopters..uboats sunk..when poss...russian medal deserves...my southall cousin ships career lifetime....

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-May-2013
    Thanks Yvonne watched it on the one show.

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-May-2013
    today newspaper.....girl chalked hopscotch outside home pavement..game...police explained criminal damage.....games played playground etc...cats craddle handstands...etc...

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-May-2013
    Its a bit like Victorian times.

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-May-2013
    just saw how much the running track...used at spikes bridge...lilian board 1948 to 1970..in 1966 ran.inter club meeting.there southall 100yds....mbe .olympics..died bowel cancer.....road named after her greenford...ealing family......dame kelly holmes spikes bridge pk...1948 olympics practice..there....etc

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-May-2013
    just saw ..2 police ramsgate kent told 10yr old girl....dad age 51 has put in formal complaint...bucket would wash white chalk...or rain.....

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-May-2013
    just saw ..2 police ramsgate kent told 10yr old girl....dad age 51 has put in formal complaint...bucket would wash white chalk...or rain.....

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-May-2013
    What are they going to do transport then to a playground in Australia.

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-May-2013
    the times kids picked up chalk blackboard school..mischief...now smart boards..white..computer boards as well...ha..different world,,,apple blossom out.etc gt flowers....leaf......saw 6 baby canada geese born canal..pulling at plant food..healthy..bright yellow.fluffy.....

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-May-2013
    I was thinking back on all those wonderful days in the 1930's and early 1940's when I used to play hopscotch with all the rest of the girls in Northcote Avenue. Yes, I did say girls, because I can't remember the boys playing it with us. I think they were employed more with flicking cigarette cards and marbles, football, and more rougher games! We always congregated outside the same house of Mrs Fu... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
    outside the wooden gate west ave..lovely square paving stones..white chalk..and lovely hopscotch..1950s no cars..some coloured chalks at school.in the teachers front desk..lovely blackboards to wipe off...but many yrs now...modern..white smart boards..computer use .in classrooms..several yrs now...he had his pride yellow privet hedge then 2 green privet..other sides..end of terrace..lawn flower be... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
    some of the community service police help..might be very young under 20...wonder if they did not know hopscotch....but some new estates lawns residents rules......also countries with front sweeping lawns very neat.never have seen pavement chalking etc...board14 page 3.lovely painting hopscotch.1897..remembered front public bar northcote they played crib.draughts..shove ha penny...etc..

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
    keith....excellent item ..in..google....disused stations southall...............maps photos also ..os map..trumpers crossing.1876...and shows the waters canal..earl jersey osterley managed to get off the river brent...my family norwood green 1800 onwards...jerseys brickfields canal etc..ag labour.orchards mkt gardening...going across to growing at south ealing...was .also work..as well as through ... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-May-2013
    Thanks

    What words do I type into google? Many thanks in advance

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
    yes google...is so good just type in..a few ..words and up it comes....loads info....good index...my southall cousin..canada.......his daughter works for google san francisco.....

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
    disused stations.southall

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-May-2013
    fred................you spoke of tony mercer...1982 norwood green residents society 63 pages booklet..photos text///..has 1967 cricket match 2000 attended..black white minstrels played with fraser hines..lesley crowther..minstrels.....7ft cricket bat with bill lewis wolf pub photo,,,,,,

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-May-2013
    Yvonne > > Thank you so much. I would never have seen those photos without your help. NOTE the ordnance survey map: > > It shows the remnants of the old drove road (cut by the canal) WEST of Trumpers Crossing Halt at "Warren Farms", and you can then see how the road went across to Norwood Green

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-May-2013
    yes so good......1878 os..also in google older maps....my family 1800s onwards..norwood green...married across at ealing..labour work..mkt gardening...walk..for work trumpers...drove..take produce..south ealing huge area fruit etc brentford mkt ddown at the high st...then..working both areas cutting across trumpers..records their rented dwelling and kids baptised norwood green st mary.......to 192... more >>

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-May-2013
    huge massive crowds...close up women....brit pathe news...free in google...1935 lord mayor london opens...southall norwood hospital.......close up of the gem century cinema.......etc......6pence of view go to top of recently new near 300 ft gas holder....went to hospital.....german design gasholder...the blue tower,,,,LH..........1939 war

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-May-2013
    dambusters 70 yrs tonight tv bbc2.7pm..film saturday 3.30 channel 5..........monday 20th...freeview.channel 9 bbc4...somme tunnels...9pm

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-May-2013
    £1000....1st 2 years of eagle...dan dare...bound volumes of child who collected every one..yrs ago...his dad bound.....antique roadshow

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-May-2013
    I have just found a full cigarette card album-"Militaty Uniforms of the British Empire". I have other albums. I understand stamps in albums are not particularly valuable.

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-May-2013
    I have John Players album of 1930s aircraft its worth very little. the cards have most value if there lose & never been stuck in a book.

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-May-2013
    hanwell in..google.......tram depot high st..1927.....and 19 sept 1936...in the booklet.......in google.........ealing.home.london transport museum..pdf......lovely booklet photos...in google.....also..in google....hanwell remembered.book one..1979 by community association........1933 hanwell...nice read.......

  • Re: Save Money or Make Money with the Utility Warehouse by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-May-2013
    1930 uxb rd hanwell...sweets gwyther...tobacco...goden butcher fruit....muir library,,,,1927 1936 tram depot.hanwell......wakefield photographers....ingleton...tom smith...staceys overalls.....gas lamps..overhead wires transport......

 
Elizabeth Robinson by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Apr-2013
I used to go to Sadlers Wells Opera house a lot during the 1950's. They had a soprano, Elizabeth Robinson, who as I recall came from Norwood Green.
Anyone remember her???
  
  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Apr-2013
    WAS SHE OF AMERICAN ORIGIN...

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Apr-2013
    Yvonne-I don't know.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 25-Apr-2013
    Apparently there was a soprano called Elizabeth Robinson who sang with Dame Joan Sutherland that is all I know. Where their any particular productions that stood out for you Michael?

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 26-Apr-2013
    Sorry that should read 'there' any ....

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Apr-2013
    soprano more than 40 yrs born 1921..had 9 children..now age 91 new york..also much loved australian sutherland.we love your opera house and harbour..worked for bbc tv.had free tickets for aida.covent garden.when filming..was splendid.massive huge on stage.head blown away by it.took dad from southall...gt sets costumes volume cast.music..with restored flower hall.wonderful glass.. refreshments..pla... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Apr-2013
    pauline spoke of hedges blossom..canal.southall...today.news the river canal trust..planting.hawthorn.blackthorn..old has died off..british waterways..done so much well over 10 yrs..loads money..locks tow path..canal local..but recession..all advertising for volunteers again now..daffs blooming..swans ducks cormorants..green parakeets.squark.high nest in..mobile phone mast.north 5 mins from spikes... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Apr-2013
    Lovely to hear that the River Canal Trust is planting Hawthorn trees again along the canal. That is the one thing I missed seeing in the current photos of Bankside, and that was the "May trees" as I used to call them when I was little. They were all along the side of the towpath and looked beautiful in May! I used to put them in my hair and walk past the old ladies who used to sit outside their te... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Apr-2013
    may day so popular yrs ago..we had maypole ribbons dance primary school field..heston park fair.goes back to rural times .take labourers on..today they said hawthorn delayed..not in bloom yet,,lots primroses so delicate lemon..up from spike bridge.woodland marina area.hounslow heath hedges,huge..for sparrows..northolt airport had to take tall ancient hedge away for glow yellow huge metal fence..sa... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Apr-2013
    Yvonne-thanks for the info on Elizabeth Robinson-glad to know she is still around.I hadn't realised that she was rhat much older than me-some 7 years.
    Fred-my main memory of Elizabeth is the "trousers " role of Siebel in Faust-"he" was Faust's student. I also saw her in Mozart's " Il Seraglio."

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Apr-2013
    mozart our favourite...saw at barbican..new centre built behind st pauls when all flattened at blitz..all our popular sopranos etc good today.in webber phantom..london..cats and les mis..all the musical theatre.and welsh catherine jenkins..PHYLIS.went by norwood green recently..lovely couple yrs now new...sign post design..welcome to norwood green at 3 bridges and wolf....coming back to 3 bridges ... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Apr-2013
    placido...sopranos,,covent garden..tonight to 9pm..freeview channel 9.......excellent..wonderful performances.....

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 26-Apr-2013
    Yes Michael, trouser roles they are a quaint opera tradition and always add a certain frisson to a production. I wonder if there are any recordings of Elizabeth Robinson around?

    I always enjoy the Barber of Seville.

    Speaking of barbers, I saw an episode of Endeavour the other night & young Morse was having his haircut and at the end the barber had his little stainless steel bottle with a r... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Apr-2013
    Yes Fred i remember that at Jacks barbers at Lady Margaret parade as a small boy sitting on a small plank across the arms of his chair.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Chris (Member 10220786) on 27-Apr-2013
    Fred ......... would that barber in North road have been MAC SMART? Mike remembers himn too! His little barbers shop was opposite my parents shop.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Apr-2013
    Yes Chris, I remember Mack Smart very well.
    Half his premises was a second hand shop.I remember having my hair cut half done, when Mack would go off to serve someone in the second hand shop!

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Chris (Member 10220786) on 27-Apr-2013
    I remember my brother used to go to Mac Smart for a short back & sides 1/6d.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 27-Apr-2013
    Yes if memory serves it was just about opposite the the pub albeit on an angle with a bit of green in between.

    Does anyone know what was in the bottle though? I don't think it was Macassar oil. I'd say I stopped going there aged about 11 because then I started growing my hair long (as was the fashion) and I used to go to the barbers on the bend near Brockhouse shop near Mt. Pleasant Hospital.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Apr-2013
    You've reminded me Fred about a barber who used to
    come to our house in Northcote Avenue to cut hair.
    He also gave dad a shave as well sometimes with a cut throat razor! I can't remember his name but we always called him Mr?.He was a very slight man, and always wore a long dark coat, and had black hair. I remember I had just finished polishing the lino in our hall (there was no carpet there) an... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Apr-2013
    my uncle and others used the brylcream of beechams brentford..kept hair dark tidy.short back sides..but my husband.6th form grammar and onto science labs npl.teddington..was jeans and long thick hair..ha..those flower shirts..wedding day longish hair flair trouser suit...but soon goes to complete opposite working in london suit..onwards.short neat hair.he cant bare it.otherwise today .ha..olivier ... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 29-Apr-2013
    I used to work for Mac Smart after school and weekends as a lather boy. The so-called antimacassar that was applied to customers hair as a dressing consisted of scented water to which was added the red colouring that was supplied to colour sausages. I know. I used to make it up. Happy days.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 29-Apr-2013
    Fred-Did you ever see The Marriage of Figaro by Mozart??

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Apr-2013
    we did ha.....tonys favourite....have the music at home as well...dormers school trip went to mozart salzburg had my photo by his statue mkt sq...piazza.ha...gt music.voices..and such fun..funny..clever...been on tv several times also....and magic flute..amazing......all at barbican..behind st pauls....we saw

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 29-Apr-2013
    Yes Michael I have seen it a few times & have a wonderful recording of Bryn Terfel & Cecilia Bartoli singing excerpts from it, "ding, ding, dong, dong". Which is entirely different from Leslie Phillips 'ding,dong' ha ha. I'm also always amused when I hear Terry Thomas call someone 'an absolute shower' I don't think our American cousins could ever understand that one.

    Thank you Roy for filling... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2013
    photo around 1950 years north rd parade..on bend.west side going round to.mt pleasant hosp..allendale..hairdresser roy..windows..vaseline..pal..products displayed....photos soot of traffic uxb rd under ironbridge 1940s50s massive polution..another extra photo white hart pub as was known to us.busy as memory pub.nice photo..manor hse snow..and fountain.pond high shooting up..etc etc

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2013
    lovely spring film....in google...youtube....brentlodge pk...bunny pk...peacocks..church.fast flow brent .all there..western hairdressers was..north rd parade.....mt pleasant

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 30-Apr-2013
    I originally got to know about Elizabeth Robinson from an article in the West Middlsex Gazette, reporting that one evening she had been taken ill during a performance.One of the audience was a gentlemman who had come to Sadlers Wells by car, and he gave her a lift home.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2013
    just seen...pauline.....gd info mulberry famous manor hse 900yrs old..in gazette.old..one..photo..of its huge narled trunk..bulging...wide girth..with.secretary hallett in photo chamber commerce.mr bass..and sister emanuel..scarisbrick...there.with it...we had our photos and info...of old manor hse..occupants..on our boards..scarisbrick family....legend henry 8th planted mulberry ..southall green.... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Apr-2013
    Michael referred to the local paper, and l remember nearly 60 years ago as a paper boy delivering the "Middlesex County Times & West Middlesex Gazette" Is this the one? What happened to it? I live in W Sussex now and am almost out of touch but can anyone remember when this paper ceased publication? Also, I do have in my possession a "Local Road & Rail timetable" for Uxbridge Ruislip & District... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Apr-2013
    The timetable I referred to is dated June 1952 (just after KG VI died) and was priced at 4d.
    It shows 83bus used to go via the Havelock Arms to the terminus at Hayes Blyth Road

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 30-Apr-2013
    Keith-you are dead right about the local paper to which I referred

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Apr-2013
    I remember my train spotting days 1954ish 2 shillings would buy a return ticket from Southall to Paddington & a time table.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2013
    the...rail..tickets...southall to slough..uxbridge..old vine st....etc..pence..1950s.....are on ebay...nice to see them...enlarge...in google.......paddington ones....southall

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 1-May-2013
    Pauline you were talking about the May trees a few days ago, I remember them along the brook off Delamere Rd I think they were the ones we used pick and chew pretending it was chewing gum ugh when I think about it now.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-May-2013
    Hi Zeta. Yes, I can remember when I first started going to Tudor road school when we moved to Northcote Avenue I went with some older girls. When we used to pass a May tree after we had gone through the alley in Dane road, they told me we had to chew a piece of the green stuff of that May, and like a fool I used to chew some until I stopped doing it. I was only five or six! I remember it was quite bitter.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-May-2013
    children bk centre..newcastle,,blyton house cookham..by maidenhead.off slough.....museum swanage....special exhibition tour this yr...rowling doing gt at ..warner brothers north west london..day out..harry potter.huge amount there..kate wills harry enjoyed themselves last wee..gt photos in google..photos of old gazette 1970..nun family sold manor hse to council 1912..she climbed the ancient mulber... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-May-2013
    a favourite of the added new ones..google aerial photos..1920s 30s....steam train...over iron bridge....new greenford rd..sweeps around...track of old crossroads original windmill lane there..track along..back of space..where 1935 greenford hotel..new built.on...empty wide roads 2 black cars...uxbridge rd..more at aerial 1930 top lock norwood lock..canal rail..aec...and hayes..google says..springs... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-May-2013
    DENIS (or anyone)
    Do you still have any records from your early days of the numbers of the last steam trains on the Greenford branch before it "went diesel" in 1958?

    Especially the 54xx class tanks. Either 5410 OR 5420 was one of the last but this is the one that seems to have evaded the photographers.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
    was worried no pink blossom.apple tree yet...news just said..5 wks late....lovely pear blossom..and streets with cherry....etc...coldest ever march 50 yrs..record lowest temp easter..wind chill factor..blizzard hail stones..saw from siberia..ha...and fruit trees stressed because of record wet rains last yr..just heard pauline dennis cricket finished at new spikes bridge.facilities...keith you aske... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
    might help..in..google...lost railway of middlesex..by mike hall.....20th century,,,,countryside bks..£8 pbk...isbn..9781853068027..160 pages....and 6 middlesex books there..general.......famous southall station rail society museum...in google...they may know...london transport museum covent garden..archive..and ealing local history library....tony used to watch soot steam.trains..at feltham..bridge..in 50s....

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-May-2013
    No sorry Keith cant help on that one.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-May-2013
    Thanks Yvonne will take a photo next in Southall

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
    says busy as often...there..people..cricket...and cricket practice bays...I saw loads football..and playground..items..lots kids using......ruislip lido..new ..centre displays info.going back all yrs.....building opens..end apr may..cafe..new .light railway train.building...steam one..£2.adults...300ft long lake.. trip.ancient woods....gt staff...photos our boards....since 1930...loads swans cana... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 2-May-2013
    I think it was early 1960s when the local gazette had I think three pictures of Turner watercolours that were along canalside and bulls bridge (North Hyde). However, I have never been able to trace them since. I presume the archive of gazettes must include the relevant copy which I sadly did not save. Perhaps I will find the opportunity and time to do a search some day.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-May-2013
    Yvonne, is it because the old Pavilion has been demolished at Spikes Bridge park that cricket facilities are being finished? Surely though people can still play cricket on their own if they want to.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
    bill did several days research yr ago..nat gallery told me christies sold .it..windmill...2008 roughly to private buyer...asked them..but ..not give any more info...newspapers..reported in google...london man flat..had it...around that time....robbery...but got back......wish we could see the oils of it..gt skill..genious...1805/10....he living at brentford high st.....if london..or later ealing..... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
    google has.spikes..southall cricket club launch may 2012...large area grass..kids must play ball and football..over side expect.sure they do.....professionals...huge money they have put into it...middx colt league 2012..london tigers.cricket club.huge part.....and other sports develop gradually there..plans...huge push gb and other countries,olympics..schools parks etc..colleges..phylis just been ... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
    bill...1960 gazette...ealing library.....feel sure they were of..local..artist..ernest ham..he worked yr1900...1930 yrs..libary has his oils and watercolours.....in google..you can see them.......lots of canal.....northhyde..etc...bulls bridge....mounds at old convent he painted...bridges..along...old mill...flour then haigh.pcture frame...73 paintings..in google....and phone library 1st they will... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-May-2013
    Trust me to get it wrong Yvonne. I've just read up in Google and have now got the whole picture of the new facilities at Spikes Bridge park.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2013
    oh wonderful..gt..so pleased..coaching traing..club..kids....some of borough hillingdon kids in gazette..age 13..16...training for cycling.....olympic in mind..ha.....my student..had from age 11 to 17....wonderful girl and parents..won 2 gold medals horses..all her life..paralymp..disabled...gorgeous girl...she knows me..queen..medal...mayor hillingdon freedom..town..etc...quiet..kind girl...credi... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 2-May-2013
    Re: Lynne While by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 2-May-2013
    would love to hear from Hazel still have trouble with friends reunited how do you get to find where people lived? I am enjoying reading about memories from Southall, so long since I have been there. still think of England as home I have never heard where Chris Collins went started going out with my first boyfriend after a party at Pa... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2013
    yes lynne took photo of you and everybody at 4th yr...sorry death....chris collins haz would love to know..she is still on reunite....short page here click top in mauve..southal..have replied long bits there for you .....my dad worked hestair..age 7 went to xmas party in famous big hanger was largest built world..still there preserved..uncle worked aec draughtsman lifetime...dad went to boac heath... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2013
    many of us lived prefabs....myself down by 8th parade..end fleming..by bunny pk path..greenford rd..maps..blocks parades our boards flickr..photos kids play by prefabs trees...flickr..photos tower blocks there..flickr...windmill lane up to greenford shops..little parade shops..green by telford faraday....trek to infants new opened 1954..trek to seniors..beehive pub still there..dr cohn..gp....chri... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-May-2013
    The recovery of the WW2 German bomber you mentioned some time ago Yvonne has started on the Goodwin sands type(DORNIER 17) the only one know to exist.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2013
    mike....fred....just seen...c.w.g.commission.war 2..killed,,southall,,,,in house or at st bernards emergency hosp...my cousin hubby..family..did not realise...age 3..david son of herb waldron.died at 143A.regina rd.28 oct 1940...ellen mary millard 56.at 158 regina..29 aug 1944..mikes 2 purcell palace cinema.it says..outside by..22.11.40..13 edith dot..violet annie 17age of 81 lady marg rd..sorrell... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2013
    thanks dennis..interesting..will follow it......90yrs raf...was mar/apr 2013.....northolt 9 times...display..turns etc...spit from..east england..hanger raf then ..back in 24 hrs...on...side runway for vips vets to go in..all day........happy bank hol everybody..may day was always....many decades fair heston...etc....maypole at school....gt weather......may flower blooming..loads of it...spring bu... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 3-May-2013
    dad did not go to the airport stayed till retirement at AEC when did your dad work at Hestair? I really enjoyed working there .left in 1970 I will contact Hazel will be good to hear her news

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2013
    oh you worked hestair..everybody..have known..dads worked there..or during war mums worked..there......1970..no....dad went boac heathrow..at close of british eagle heston airport..hestair....I went fantastic huge xmas kids party there..in famous big hanger still there preserved.....let haz know hello from me.....everybody loved hestair...dads favouite time..job..career....BA heathrow ..were terri... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 3-May-2013
    Yes Yvonne the Ellen Mary Millards you mention was my grandmother and subjecto to re-building that was the house I born into (after coming home from Hillingdon Hospital).

    In November 2003 I made contact with a Barry Brooker who was living in Regina Rd at the time. He wrote :-

    “Yes, I do remember the incident you refer to. We were living in Regina road when the bomb fell, I think it might... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-May-2013
    very sad indeed your dear loss..accounts by people.who were walking southall green areas and saw it coming over..noise etc...many of those upright pianos..were then...sing song..they had them in pubs like the willowtree ancient pub.late 1960s...2 yrs derelict plot there now..expect will be residents built...1958 kelvin gdns plane crash..and more rubble..was vey sad..my friend alive today..child he... more >>

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-May-2013
    The mention of Heston Airport brought back some old memories. During WW2 I was in the ATC 1846 squadron, based at Featherstone Road School. We visited Heston airport a few times. We had a few short flight in a De Havilland Domine.
    Leter the USAAF was based there. In 1944 we used to go to the airport for gliding -exciting if a little scary.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-May-2013
    remember the famous big hanger..was..gt .as 1st built..still there..heritage listed

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-May-2013
    Yvonne-yes I do remember the big hangar-the gliders and equipment were kept there.

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-May-2013
    later 1950s...staff had ..gt xmas parties for kids in there....happy holiday weekend mike dennis pauline...everybody....gt weather..all country side bits..flower etc..gt....spring..summer..

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-May-2013
    Eagle became Cunard Eagle, another disastrous business merger that seemed a good idea at the time

  • Re: Elizabeth Robinson by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2013
    dad loved brit eagle...gd career.and hestair.....I flew brit eagle to italy £5..staff....small nice.....gt bank holiday weather...gt

 
Facebook by davo (Member 10030212) on 9-Apr-2013
Just wondering if any of you are members of the " Are you an old face from Southall" on facebook ???   
  • Re: Facebook by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 10-Apr-2013
    Yes, I am a member of are you an old face and also Are you a old face.Most members younger than me but some good pictures.

  • Re: Facebook by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 10-Apr-2013
    Yes I am as well, I have been the one posting a lot of pictures recently. The group with "an" rather than "a" in it's name seems a bit more focused on Southall as it was than as it is.

  • Re: Facebook by Chris (Member 10220786) on 11-Apr-2013
    I am. Brilliant photos of 'old' times and places in Southall, with lots of interesting info too. Most of them added to the site by Colin (thank you for your hard work). Chris x

  • Re: Facebook by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Apr-2013
    just seen..in google tudor rd sch...memories history photos.pupils etc...by the school..clicked on but no photos memories yet..pity..ron pauline etc..but the oates book southall has some nice 1940s photos war at the school and pupils etc..pity dedicated people this site cant see colins generous work photos all memories comments..sure we could.enjoy so much and provoke lovely comments memories..

  • Re: Facebook by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Apr-2013
    recent antique roadshow...medium size.clay sculpture wally bird.tobacco jar.by robert wallace martin.£30000...northern dealer..says suthul....heard other northerners.say that..old maps southall.spelt southoul......of old norwood.had the old part.up north called northcote..down to south part called southall green..east field on map of havelock farm.later brick making..21.11.1896.pottery canal.by r... more >>

  • Re: Facebook by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Apr-2013
    They used the canal for transporting pottery to London because journey was so smooth. Nothing broke, whereas roads were so bad, many things had cracked when taken by horse & cart. That's one reason why Southall chosen

  • Re: Facebook by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Apr-2013
    yes marvellous.....fulham shop...then chose southall...canal..like..stoke trent wedgwood etc..canal..so good for.pottery..roads etc so bad....my nan uncle..his mum painter pottery burslem..he age 19..pottery..but ..left the .terrible soot black smoke ..coal 5 town potteries..army joined..india 10 yrs..came into hounslow barracks1881 census..hundreds there..he is near bottom pages...meets local gir... more >>

  • Re: Facebook by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 25-Apr-2013
    Thank you Colin Harris for all the wonderful pictures and information that you have put on :Are you an old face: so far. I am really enjoying the passages from Middx. book very much. Brings back so many memories especially to us oldies who remember a little of the war years.

 
Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Apr-2013
I want to ask about shops, not operated by a shopkeeper with just one shop, but little mini "chains" of shops. For example, I think Abernethies had 3 branches as did T Parker & Sons the bakers. But who remembers Williams Brothers and also Gerrards the greengrocers. I think Gerrards had branches all over London, but there is no trace of them now. What about Maypole, and Pearks, both once ... more >>   
  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 2-Apr-2013
    anyone know when the greengrocers on Allenby Road closed down

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 2-Apr-2013
    Timothy Whites & Taylors chemists, Freeman Hardy & Willis shoes, Ketts electrical, Musicraft, Platts
    groceries, Bata shoes, Home & Colonial groceries, Bransons clothes. Mac Fisheries, Rumbellows electrical

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Apr-2013
    MacFisheries yes, I remember one in Greenford Broadway. . Also Ketts, now I remember their little Morris Commercial vans. Thanks for that one!

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Apr-2013
    street view in google allenby rd ..lynne.....gives idea...corner was co.op....allenby pub closed few yrs now..it is heating shop instead.......driving test centre office along there.....1964 new church there redeemer..dormers girls went when 1st opened....greenford high st big ..many yrs stall still there fruit veg..........

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Apr-2013
    Keith-I remember Williams in South Road well. In fact there were two sdjacent shops-grocery and hardware.We were registered at the grocers during WW2. They had a novel "divi" system in operation. In my day the manager was a nice,business-like man. We also used the coop in the high street-my mum's divi number was 270884!

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Apr-2013
    What about our favourite Woolworths and we used to always shop at Meyers the greengrocers. Don't know if they're still in business.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by penny (Member 10265839) on 3-Apr-2013
    There was a Gerrards the greengrocer in Western Road just opposite Watsons the butcher.
    A neighbour worked in James Walker jewellers in South Street (I think)which was part of a small chain.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Apr-2013
    Times Furnishing was another well used furniture store. Bought quite a few items from there. Also the ABC restaurant was everywhere.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Apr-2013
    penny.............did she say she knew....dot goldsmith harrison..worked james walker jewellers...1950s..married holy trinity 1953 aug...kates gran...woolies top our road we used all the yrs..when large boards at counters..price 3D 6D..old money...,photos williams bros..stores.their own money coin.tokens..in google...ebay for sale..

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Apr-2013
    Does anyone remember Sillitoes. I think it was a sweet shop, but can't remember whether there was one in Southall?

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Apr-2013
    Yes, I'd forgotten Meyers the greengrocers

    Also James Walker. They were everywhere once. Williams Brothers had a branch in Greenford Broadway. They gave out metal tokens as a divi. We found some in a jam jar a few years ago, and they are sought after collector's items now, but ours had all rusted together

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Apr-2013
    Stowells was a wine & spirits merchant, and there was one along the high street, on the opposite side of Northcote Avenue.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Apr-2013
    Stowells also had a shop at North Parade North Road i was a delivery boy there from 1956/58 i rode a carrier bike with a basket on the front

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 3-Apr-2013
    What about the Co-operative grocers just off King Street near the Dominion, My Dad always took me there on the cross bar of his bike on a Saturday lunch time for the weeks groceries, he would have a bag of groceries on each of the handlebars and me on the cross bar, no health and safety issues then. I could always remember the co-partnership number not many co-op grocers about now.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Apr-2013
    Let us not forget Sainsbury's on Southall High Street

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Apr-2013
    Burtons and Perrings the furniture shop were also another two shops in the high street. Perrings was on the corner of Alexandra Avenue.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Apr-2013
    Yes, but I was asking about the SMALL chains. I think every town had a Sainsburys, Co-Op and a Woolworths - they were everywhere. It's the small chains that only locals can remember that I want to put on record

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 3-Apr-2013
    Maypole, Pearks and Home and Colonial were all national chains which along with Liptons all eventually became part of the same group. There was a connection between the Maypole shops and the Maypole factory at one time but this was severed in the mid 1920's when the factory was taken over by van den Bergh's and the shops were hived off to Home and Colonial although they continued to trade under th... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Chris (Member 10220786) on 3-Apr-2013
    What about SCOTCH WOOL SHOP - that was just along from Woolworths. Hemmings Bakers in the broadway near Moss Chemist. Clifton Browns and Clifton Evans. One is South road the other in the Broadway. John Colliers on the corner of Herbert Road. They might not be the ones you are after but they just came to mind.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Apr-2013
    Ah Had no idea that Maypole & Pearks were national chains, but I knew Timothy Whites & Home & Colonial were. I am reminded of sports shops "Shellshears". I think there was one in West Ealing but was that their only branch.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 3-Apr-2013
    Remember Meyers going over to Gerrards, used to get pennywoth of specks from Meyers. and pennyworth of broken bits from Dadaks bakers on way to school at St Anselms. My mums Co-op was No 359733. and the lady who lived upstairs No was 721969. also remember the tin money divi from Co-Op. Also one of Tescos first supermarkets opening in the King St, next door to Gerrards, and Radio Relay on corner ... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 4-Apr-2013
    I seem to remember that Cogswells were involved in setting up the original Garden Centre at Syon Park.

    I think Shellshears only had the one shop all the references I can find only mention the one, initially at 94 Broadway, West Ealing in 1902, by 1955 they had moved to 154 Broadway.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by penny (Member 10265839) on 4-Apr-2013
    Yvonne,
    Re my neighbours who worked at James Walker jewellers - they were Harold and Olive Chandler who lived in Wentworth Road.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Apr-2013
    There was Philips mini market next to Martins newsagents in Lady Margaret Parade i think they had branch elsewhere but i think it whent in the 1960s.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Apr-2013
    There was a butchers shop just along the high street to the right of Northcote Avenue called Chapmans. Don't know how many there were though. We always used Biggs the butchers along by the little bakers and post office by Hambrough road.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Apr-2013
    There used to be a shop which sold second hand books and foreign stamps-known as the "Box of Tricks"-run by a man who always had a fag on! Opposite Southall Mart???

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Apr-2013
    I think he was called "John" Michael.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 4-Apr-2013
    I remember the second hand bookshop well but only knew it as "Johns" interesting to see the actual name of it. He also sold bundles of comics for a few pence. I live in Sevenoaks now and it is very cold and snowing hard as I write this.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Apr-2013
    Now remembering Radio Rentals, Job's Dairies and Express Dairy. All disappeared now I suppose
    Strakers (stationers), branch in Uxbridge Rd Ealing just east of the Lido. Was that their only shop? Always smelled nice in there.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Apr-2013
    I am sure Strakers had a shop in the Uxbridge Road Southall across from Walkers the jewelers.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Apr-2013
    There was also Stones domestic electrical appliance shop near Walkers remember dad buying a radiogram there 1954.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 4-Apr-2013
    had my first saturday job at Jobs dairy got a pound hazel hockley's mum worked there too went to southall market a lot had milkshake at wimpy

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Apr-2013
    What about the 50 Shillings Tailors in South Road?

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Apr-2013
    Yes Denis, there was a Strakers where you said. I used to buy all my school stuff there.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Apr-2013
    I don't remember the Southall Strakers, but clearly remember the Ealing one on the same side of the Uxbridge Road around the corner from Lido cinema. 50/- Tailors were a national chain I think, and there was one right at the top of Greenford Broadway, in the arcade just west of MANSELL Road, and I think they were forced to change there name as prices went up, so became "John Collier"

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Apr-2013
    Also, does anyone remember the old bus that was well pre-war and was only used as a staff canteen standing outside Greenford MArket until about 1953. A bus research group is trying to find out more about that one particular bus (ONLY). I think it had been an open topper with stairs that curved around the back, outside up to the top deck.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Apr-2013
    Thanks Pauline i thought the old gray matter was not playing trix, also i belive Stones was part of a small chain dad also bought our first tv there 1954.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Apr-2013
    Yes, I think Stones was also a small local chain too

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Chris (Member 10220786) on 5-Apr-2013
    Just seen a photo (on another Southall site) of HADRELLS - a shop on the corner of Herbert Road. The photo is from 1956 but I don't recall this shop at all. Does anyone else? I thought John Collier was on that corner - perhaps HADRELLS came later.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2013
    Hi Chris. Good to see you back on the Site. I've missed you. I certainly remember Hadrells store. It was a furniture store, and was a large store with huge glass windows on the corner of Herbert road. I particularly remember it, as the Communists used to hold their meetings there on a Saturday, and I loved listening to them if I was up there, as they used to stand on a wooden box and spout for age... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2013
    Thinking about it, I can't remember what was on the other corner. Hadrells was on the side away from Butlers, and then there was the other side going towards Butlers.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Chris (Member 10220786) on 5-Apr-2013
    Lloyds Bank on the other corner of Herbert Road. The other site is on Facebook - 'Are you an Old face from Southall'. Some very good photos on there from way back when plus lots of memories etc. Chris x

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2013
    How strange. I've just downloaded a picture of Lloyds bank on that corner (with "Buy Savings Bonds" on a poster), with a Ladies Hairdressers next to it, and Clifford Evans next to that. It could be MacFisheries next with a blind opened.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2013
    Scotch Wool Shop was next door to the Arcade.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Apr-2013
    Wasnt Platt bros. a small grocery chain i think they had a shop in King Street

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 5-Apr-2013
    I worked as a delivery boy at Tesco's in King Street. There was the good old fashioned bike with a big metal basket at the front and a stand that fell down whenever you rode over a bump. There was another Tesco store near the railway bridge in the Crescent off Beaconsfield Road. I had to go there to fetch sides of bacon when our man forget to order. Lodges in King Street was a favourite haunt for ... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2013
    Was just looking through the SOUTHALL book by Jonathan Oates and there is a very clear picture of Lloyds Bank Limited there, with the Ladies Hairdressers to the left, then Clifford Evans, then McFisheries, then Dolcis Fashion Shoes. (Had to use my magnifying glass for them all except Clifford Evans which had very large lettering over their very large store). Also a large photo of Hadrells which it... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 5-Apr-2013
    Bill your mention of Lodges and buying Meccanno parts has reminded me of when I was about 13 in the mid-60s I used to go to Lodges and the then owner would allow me to go down in the basement where there was a cabinet full of spare parts and I could buy any I wanted at half the list price, I think some of them had been there years and he just wanted to dispose of them.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 5-Apr-2013
    There used to be a Singer Sewing Machine shop somewhere between the George and Dragon and the White Hart

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Apr-2013
    I still have 3 boys books from the 1940 & an encyclopedia from the 1950s bought at Lodges they all have there trade sticker inside the front cover.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Apr-2013
    There was also a Singer Sewing Machine shop opposite Northcote Avenue. There was a Norwood Farm dairy on the corner of Beechcroft Avenue and the Singer Sewing Machine shop was next to it. Then, there was Franks the Greengrocers, Duval's the cooked meat shop, Lewis's the sweet shop, the Westminster Bank, the ABC and then Woolworths. The Labour Hall was somewhere along there, before you got to Woolw... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 6-Apr-2013
    There was also a Norwood Farm Dairy shop in King Street.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Apr-2013
    Yes, well done! Platt's I'm sure were grocers and I had completely forgotten them. Also there was GAPP'S grocers in Ealing somewhere but they went early '50s

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Apr-2013
    Spikin & Dents was another Jewellers which has gone now. We bought my engagement ring from one of their shops in Ealing in the early fifties.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Apr-2013
    I was trying to work out the sequence of shops from Butlers on the corner. I know Sainsbury's was next door, but can't remember whereabouts the Maypole shop was. Was it on the same side, or was it on the opposite side of the road near Sanders the grocers on the corner of St George's Avenue and the Coop?

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Apr-2013
    Let us not forget the ABC tea rooms with waitress service. My dad thought it was posh!

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Chris (Member 10220786) on 7-Apr-2013
    ABC........think that was next to Woolworths or thereabouts.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Apr-2013

    Dead right Chris-hope all is well with you all

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 7-Apr-2013
    I worked at Strakers in Southall Broadway from leaving school in 1956 for about 2 years then went to Perry and Routleffe a stationers in Uxbridge.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 7-Apr-2013
    Platts the grocers and Platts the butchers were next door to each other in the King St(Kings Confectioners and Lilly and Skinners were either side), opposite side of the road to Devaneys and Home and Colonial, and Hardys electrical,and the Radio Relay shop on the corner of Hammond road , supplied piped radio to premises after the war, only three stations, Home service, Light programme, and third p... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Apr-2013
    lovely 1950s photo..our flickr50..page 11...looking west broadway from ever busy traffic lights..h j butler and co.memswear..tailor huge lettering .with open scissors high at curve corner...opposite curve corner lady marg.1920s style curve glass.corner shop..along there we used the newsagent....corner greenford ave..see...2 trolley buses.607..ladies long knee coats .plad huge check coat..bikes.wai... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Apr-2013
    penny..................chandler rings a bell......duchess kate.....her gt gran southall....was edith eliz chandler.married spencer clarence st after 1909.......and ..kates gran..dot goldsmith harrison....worked jameswalker..southall..married 1953 holy trinity......she worked jewellers hounslow trained by her jeweller neice.there..1970...because by 1970 they had moved to norwood green........so ma... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Apr-2013
    I wonder if anyone remembers the antique weapons shop in Kings Street it was knocked down to make way for Woolworths, sold suites of armour , old guns & swords ect.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Apr-2013
    The Newsagents and Tobacconist just along by the buses was called the "Ideal". Len told us this when I couldn't remember the name. I used to run up there to get my dad's few ounces of Nosegay tobacco.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Apr-2013
    Only a small point Yvonne, but the photo of Lloyds Bank was going towards Butlers not towards Woolies. I wish we did have a photo going from Hadrells the other way.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
    ah yes..in approx memory of all the different photos..probably...the one 1940s going towards woolies..opposite the northcote ave..1940s pram.woman.going east..........evans prams corner huge in photos corner..large..lloyds bank corner.war save bonds photo...nice large clear photos.....over 3 yrs collection photos....flickr............through yrs shops....pity we all did not have cameras to.go alon... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
    it is clearer easier.street view..ub1 1sr..goes along south rd..into broadway..trees look nice..sunny july aug.more recent...banks stay banks vaults special.but asia now...google has several lloyds tsb..south rd broadway.king st....greenford ave hsbc corner with lloyds opposite..was woolies now 99p shop.with nat west bank.by.....from our yr1900 photos..half dozen.architecture buildings there 2013.... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
    was able to ask tony.......this newer st view ..nice easy use clear......funny peculiar..at northcote ave...right east the old theatre,,think became snooker now asian bank..black frontage fashion..on bakers corner west....BUT..no entry 2 signs......BUT car going into...and cars parked coming..up..out of...no one way or anything....as we know...no dead end...curve at pub..around...alleys..left east... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Apr-2013
    "The Show my street.com" is absolutely marvellous. After finding my own house I had a quick look at Northcote Avenue in Southall, and it still looks very tidy. Our old house and the house next door have both concreted their gardens to accommodate their cars. Two on next doors at present. My daughter and I did all this on Google over Easter, but this is much faster. I'm not going to explore too muc... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Apr-2013
    Although there are many lovely photos on our Southallboards, I have several favourite ones which I value above all others. Number one is the photo of Southall Broadway in the 1950's which we used so much, with Northcote Avenue just out of sight on the left hand side. I admit that I wept when I first saw it as it brought back so many memories. The next one is the one of our Town Hall with the old c... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
    tony has just said..yes seems 2012...new better st view
    found the old one so fiddly...just been hour all down northcote ave...yes fences...concrete front..porch..walls..alley..side houses..etc..gt....grubhams..norman ave...82..76 74 all show....131 137 tree shows...clinic..along from 66.....118 council..row houses..west side..window boxes flowers on deep window sil.....BUT WHY NO ENTRY AT BROADWA... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
    lynne......fantastic..dormers lane allenby..school.....beehive there little sweet shop etc opposite...2012 may june sunshine..think...hugejubilee union jacks around pub...same 105 busstop..going to southall broadway...bungalows..new entrance half done to new school there curve goldy colour..building modern architecture.....allenby new entrance,built on old sports back field huge crane there...old ... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2013
    several of us of golflinks est also..so.new june 2012 street view ....our mounds green shops..there telford faraday.....right east corner was sweets now meat...telford fish chips...along long telford supermarket.large green lettering......west left side wine...down dip walk under along wall,,so unusual..under at wall....through to fleming ..dormers waye...prefabs long gone 1970..

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 9-Apr-2013
    Thank you Pauline for pointing out showmystreet.com site it's wonderful much clearer than googlemaps.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Apr-2013
    shops..40s 50s....flickr50.page3...hanwell broadway junction uxbridge rd..at curve..sainsbury..with co op society..to left east..west seems boots....traffic police long white sleeve cuffs....belisha beacon being repaired..trolley wires..kids jackets caps hanwell..........dormers rise..right side was prefabs..row terrace houses in street view new .close ups clear..........many special favourites to... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Apr-2013
    Would love to see those old Hanwell photos, but cannot find.
    How do I get Flikr 50 ??

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Apr-2013
    hanwell on several of the 50 boards also......www.flickr.com................southallboard50@yahoo.co.uk.............password middlesex50......southallboard50 photostream.flickr.........pauline ,dilys..chris..fred..dennis..ron..and half dozen other members have said...use it........over 3 yrs now...50 different boards ..collection....all yrs ...all local.areas..memories interest..nostalgia...rare..... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Apr-2013
    Thank you Yvonne
    I'll have some time tomorrow and will look then

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Apr-2013
    Had a quick pop into Showmystreet.com as I wanted to have a look at the Town Hall. It certainly looked different, and the toilets had gone, but the Fire Station seemed to be still there. I much preferred the old Town Hall that I loved to see, but I suppose things must change over the years. The Three Horseshoes was still there, and I passed what was the Odeon. The Red Lion was still there, and wha... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Apr-2013
    Pauline-I share your feelings about cherished memories of Southall as it was. The considerable number of entries on this site pays eloquent testimony to these feelings.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Apr-2013
    couple days ago saw gazette on line......photo of your police car turned over..couple mths ago..chase...under iron bridge...on north side at pillar as footpath rail goes along....clear photo of car turned over..traffic jam til taken away midday crash..cleared by 4pm for rush hr....still turn at st bernard arch entry..to go along was high brick wall of asylum...then down windmill lane...but...insid... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 13-Apr-2013
    Pauline - Have just read your message of 12th and identify with your feelings entirely. Time might blur the edges of our memories but they are fond memories and mean so much to all of us who grew up in Southall, not the 'foreign country' it is today.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 13-Apr-2013
    Hi Janice I went back to Southall just over a year ago with my hussband, it was the first time we'd been back for over twenty years, and my goodness what a change. It was heartbreaking to see everything that you'd known whilst growing up had all but gone. There was nothing left really to remind you of a happy childhood. How very sad.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Apr-2013
    Ditto for me too

    I used to LOVE Hanwell & Greenford. I remember Uxbridge still as a market town until the early 1950s. I will never go back now

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 15-Apr-2013
    Occasionally, on a summer Sunday afternoon during the early 1950s, my parents would take us for a trip on a Green Line bus to Uxbridge and we'd sit by the canal for hours with our homemade fishing rods (my two brothers and I). Needless to say, we never caught anything! After eating our picnic, we'd set off along the towpath and walk for what seemed hours over fields, ending up in Denham Village wh... more >>

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Apr-2013
    On Sundays in summer mum & dad would take use on the bus to Brentford & we then took the river boat to Westminster pier the we had a walk around the sites then got the boat & bus back to Southall that would be 1949/50 good old days.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Apr-2013
    Janice
    There are no longer any "Green Lines", - a victim of "deregulation" of bus services. Routes which run through different local authority areas will never get any subsidies from any of them. Yes the 711 ran all the way from High Wycombe to Reigate, and the 710 from Amersham to Crawley, almost 60 miles, both along the Uxbridge Road

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Apr-2013
    Janice, I used to go fishing with dad in the canal at Uxbridge-we went on the 607Trolley Bus-during the war years and after-wonder if our paths croaaed?? Sometimes we would fish in the River Colne. The Frays river was, I believe,strictly private fishing

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 15-Apr-2013
    Remember going to hampton court at easter would meet up with lots of family about twenty of us took jam sanwiches flasks of tea paddled in river then went into the park at Hampton court played cricket & rounders then qued for hours to get bus back to Hanwell Broadway then catch trolly bus back to Southall Odeon & walk home via Avenue Rd over Railway footbridge along passage up to Osterley Park Rd.

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Apr-2013
    The Green Line coaches
    They used to run along the Uxbridge Road regularly and we all remember them. But then they disappeared and I don't think we really noticed that they'd stopped. I am told it is now over 40 years since a 709,710 or 711, or any of those coaches ran along the Uxbridge Road

  • Re: Old shops - multiples by Lesley Stanhope nee Green (Member 10290663) on 31-Dec-2013
    Phillips the grocers had a shop on Allenby Road as well. I remember it from the 50's.
    Chairs for the elderly to sit on whilst waiting to be served.The cashier lady at the end of the shop watching everything .
    Having all the products cut weighed and individually wrapped.
    Allenby Road shops not sure if I got them all and in correct order.
    Starting at top of Sunnycroft/Allenby junction.
    Sweet sh... more >>

 
Eastertide by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 31-Mar-2013
Here's wishing you all a very Happy Easter.   
  • Re: Eastertide by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Mar-2013
    and to you mike and everybody....we used to have easter eggs from woolworths southall...little sugar flowers on milk choc eggs...new pope speaking at rome balcony..new archbishop canterbury....queen philip..lovely photos.saphire blue..maundy money 87..and spring flower posies..oxford cathedral..for 1st time since charles 1st..1643

  • Re: Eastertide by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Apr-2013
    ..tide...late old english...eastertide..week.....50 days easter to whitsun...lets hope warmer bank hols then..ha...boat race good..took side navy blue..since ..1958 west ave southall.....new black white tv...others.in living room at home. backed.nice colour they said cambridge.....great finish at chiswick bridge.....pinch punch 1st month..lets hope no.problems fools day to midday only..

 
Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Mar-2013
Since switching on todsy I am finding that I can't read all the script as 'more' doesn't move when I click on it. Has anyone else had problems, or is this something peculiat to me?   
  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2013
    it works now...hope ok with you also

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Mar-2013
    No, Yvonne, mine still doesn't work!

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2013
    still wks ok..you clicked new thread was ok...so ..not your mouse click....my poor old computer..takes while warm up...1st thing..not want to click...etc.....mouse kurser wont go sometimes..keys sometimes..stick..or such like...tony says..good clean help..unscrew back and special stuff ..when get round to it...ha...worn out had very good use.but will try clean inside..when get chance........

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Mar-2013
    It's still not working although I have contacted Southall Knowhere.

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Mar-2013
    I've just tested for me Pauline & it works same as usual.

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Mar-2013
    By the way, I saw a programme the other day mentioning Mock Turtle Soup (Mum often bought it) and I've found it's made from "calf's head, veal, or other meat and spiced to taste like green turtle soup"

    Though I doubt we'll ever know what real Green Turtle soup ever tasted like.

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 22-Mar-2013
    Please tell me what is 'more' i have never heard of it!! Am I stupid??

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Mar-2013
    Ordinarily I would say less is more but in this case when someone has put quite a lot of text in a reply you read so much & then you see the word More (in blue )and then you click on it to read the rest of whatever the person is saying.

    I hope this helps.

    And that you had to click More to re... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 22-Mar-2013
    Thanks Fred, now I see what you mean, so obvious really lol. Jean

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
    you 2 australians during the night..ha.....hope pauline ok today with more......last day of the precious wonderful tv centre bbc ..today....white city tube station shepherds bush.....1960 built..2 of us went there from dormers wells school to work 1966.....wonderful studios..circle corridors..club....make up rooms showers..fantastic programmes..always foreigners..being taken round to copy..get ide... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2013
    Thank you for your help folks, but I think sosmething's gone wrong somewhere. This has all happened since I kept getting lots of updates It's knocked the clock and calendar out which is usually quite easy to get back, but the history's gone, so instead of just tapping in's' for Southall Knowhere and it all comes up, there's nothing now. The worst though is not being able to read all the text by cl... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
    will ask tony...if he can think over weekend..knocked out clock .sounds interesting...good luck...bbc 4 tonight freeview 9..will be good...bbc tv..london..£200million sold..keeping huge sudio one...for special..tv use...going to be flats hotel cinema..

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
    top page here.....says update account...email...updates..logout...add yours...email alerts.....have never clicked any of these.....seems something..to do with your..comment...

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Mar-2013
    Hi Pauline you could have a popup blocker they sometimes come with updates i have one cant find it to get rid of it

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2013
    Thank you Denis. I've just seen this on my computer but don't know whether it will help.

    How to Get Rid of Pop-Ups on a Computer | Tech Tips - Salon.com

    Eliminate Internet Explorer pop-ups by opening the browser and clicking "Tools," then "Pop-up Blocker." Click the "Turn On Pop-up Blocker" option.
    I'm not trying this until my family might help.

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Mar-2013
    I tried internet explorer it did no good atall still got the pop up.

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
    pauline.......just tried last 2 days ..mauvine...because easy when unusual name...but stevens burke..common........barry .kay..anne.....got to think..mauvine middle name....because find past..ancestry..no records .strange.....tick spell diff.....but today.saw burt..saw stephens..and it all came up quick....free in google you can see...mauvine stephens born 1931.st pancras reg area.london..many cam... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
    anne e stephens.born 1948 uxb reg...the other anne j stevens 1949.uxb...barry d.s. stephens born 1935 uxb reg..kay o stephens born 1938 uxb reg...so dear mauvine.passed 2006 reg ealing.burt...the marriages siblings.deaths would be free in google find past...mauvine stays local.she would know southall to 2006...dear lady..if anne.e.stephens.born 1948. doing family tree to tell you more..

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
    dear pauline...192 in google..dear mauvine was greenford...2002 /3....probably before also....len would have been able to give you address..his policeman son..got 192 free...links to tel number and address years.....ub6 postcode...tony me lived greenford 14yrs

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
    192 scroll down says others at same hse..different yrs..seems 2008...bonnie l charles and richard charles....dont suppose her daughter....passing reg ealing..could be ealing..hospital..new big one uxbridge rd.by viaduct...mine used that hospital..so did len....

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
    under the more..is..marriage mauvine stephens to ken george e burt .eal reg.1954..ken passed 2000.eal reg..the only ken g.e..burt born..chelsea lodon.yr1927..tel address elect role.in google.192..n burt .stanhope rd greenford ub6.6 other burt local ruislip west eal..hayes.ken burt 2002/4 st paul rd staines.mauvine 1859 onwards was by canal black hse pub greenford perkins mauve dye invented.amaze.g... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2013
    Thank you Yvone. That definitely sounds like the Stephens family. Mauvine would have been the same birth date as me and Barry would be next and then Kay. I can't remember Anne being born, but I know there was another little girl after Kay, as Janice mentioned, as she lived opposite them at one time in Northcote Avenue. So Mauvine has died then. I thought she had - just a feeling. I can still see h... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
    now....aide in london...gt..has been yorkshire..4pm..tv....she is in your heart wonderful...anne big 10yr gap..often lady inlater life falls..her marriage 192..feel sure anne still with us.....gt to see fish meat mkt bow bells.church cockney slang he says gt... london..have been to them all..love london...tv now itv.....we went on new tube that queen kate on yesterday...walk whole length...gt insi... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
    the only one on marriage find past is ..anne..e .stephens..marr 1967..age 19..harrow.reg area..her mum greenford..so near.....aide thames grey mullet cooked.cockney fishmonger 13 kids...aide 26 yrs marr 3 kids..yorkshireman..hot cross buns london capital of it yr 1900s....cross ward off evil..lucky charm..annual ceremony london..tv now..ha...hap easter all.....

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 22-Mar-2013
    Pauline,
    It may be that Javascript has been disabled in your web browser assuming you are using Internet Explorer try the following:

    1.Open Internet Explorer.
    2.On the Tools menu, click Internet Options.
    3.On the Security tab, click ... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 22-Mar-2013
    Just realised you won't be able to display full instructions, instead copy and paste this link
    http://www.mistered.us/tips/javascript/browsers.shtml

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 22-Mar-2013
    No problem with MORE in Australia.
    During my midnight web search I came on Francis Firth Web pages.Yvonne is there and Pam MacCloy.
    I would like to contact Pam but if it is like the past efforts to contact people the E mail address has changed and not updated.
    I do not know if Knowhere has a change of address available for us?
    Happy Easter Every One.
    Ron

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2013
    happy easter..ron...and everybody.....yes think...I contacted pam......frith site is lovely....nice people gt memories....southall heston.greenford..ealing etc...click on her email there...frith reply to you with her reply......you can then do reply back...what do you mean..change address knowhere....let us know...is everything ok with you..and site etc...good wishes to the family...

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2013
    Thank you Colin and everybody for your help. When I see my family I will let them try and sort this out via your instructios. It's a bit too technical for me in my eighties!

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 23-Mar-2013
    All is right here Yvonne.
    If I for some reason have to change my address how do I let Knowhere have my new address.
    I should think that many of our friends have picked up contacts only to find that due to time the address has been changed but not registered.
    It has happened several times to me.

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2013
    pauline...............they seem to stay local...over yrs...the only marriage .barry .d. stephens..is hillingdon.registered.1965...and only one for kay.stephens marriage seems harrow reg area..like anne.e.stephens. marriage harrow area.1967 .with sister mauvine.living.seems greenford...2002..2006...so they all would have seen the changes of southall...if they ever did nostalgia visits to northcote ... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2013
    ron......tony..says...knowhere .is just log in....so does not matter..we think that if you have changed your email address......keep using reply log in the same.........if your old email address not closed down yet....set up automatic forward.....that will send for yrs to come...any old incoming to old email...to your new email......let us know if..can help..more..best wish...snow here ha,,,,

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2013
    pauline.....colin...tony just done intructions..browser..active scripting enable...he realises..colin...thanks...gson..pauline...might get more back for you......hope so....we can always type..under more stuff for you...to read

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Mar-2013
    COLIN - we have checked the link, and the Active Script is already enabled. Downloads are taking ages but we have downloaded CCleaner and have run it successfully. However, nothing has changed, but my daughter assures me that it will just take a little time to resolve it. Thank you so much for your help.

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Mar-2013
    YVONNE - thank you for all the research you have done on my behalf to find the Stevens family, and to learn that my dear friend Mauvine has died. I would never have found all this out on my own. Yes, you're right the family would have noticed a great change in Northcote Avenue. On our Southallboard I noticed there was a wooden fence around their old terraced house. I don't think it enhances the pl... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
    lovely....if we had all been on computer yr 2000..you could have found her 192 and met up to visit together..her local..trees yes often still pavements grown bigger..let us know if under more..we can type it for you

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
    barry david stephens passed 2006 registered hillingdon..could be hillingdon hospital.borough with its.registrar at uxbridge.192 electoral role tel.2002 to 6.uxbridge.let us know christian names parents stephens..so pleased helped.best wishes gdad daughter.kay anne need married surname.

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
    meant gson....find past free index google..3 pages stephens 50 on each st pancras london.1911.as is usual.mauv born 1931.her parents..but they probably moved in area.burt job.might be hoover her living greenford.barry local job.so they stayed local.look after parents.mrsstephens might aunt called her.

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
    marriages st pancras 1929.stephens.winifred.joseph.eleanor.alice..1930.walter.tom.leslie.1931 sarah.1932 several also..we had some st pancras move southall.canal rail.jobs new town factories grow southall.cleaner air west.edwardian farm ruth historian tv.£12 yr servant scivvy.my nan like others had to go leave room in bed for other kids.burden on parent.all long hrs hard work.only couple hr off.c... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Mar-2013
    So, Barry Stephens has also died the same year as Mauvine. I think Mauvine's mother was called Mary by her sister. Anyway Yvonne I don't need to know anymore now that Mauvine's at rest. My daughter is taking my computer to her house to see if she can sort my problem out, as I'm missing all the text on Southall Knowhere.

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
    good luck..your computer...just written off to pioneer corp..of david john willans..for more info...southampton to dday..repair set causeway for vehicles..under fire .severe bad seas..cain.lay roads repair rail..if injury shell sock he sent home before 28 dec 1944 died buffers southall station.photos hortus in google.age 22.corps stone..briefly married girl daisy from cambridge.she widow married s... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
    just got reply in 10 mins from..corp......david northcote ave ..enlisted age 17.royal artillery hounslow barracks..did searchlights.....age 21 moved to pioneer corp.18 nov 1943...june 44 dday.born 14 feb 1922..emma had feb babies..ha..my uncle feb 2..of hers she had 11 or so kids....david died dec 28 1944..xmas time buffers..came home..what autumn..time 1944..bunting northcote ave

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Mar-2013
    HOORAY. Couldn't get any downloads using Internet Exployer or Google so eventually downloaded Mozilla Firefox, and all okay. Thanks to my daughter!

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2013
    well done..gt daughter..your local northcote ave etc.lads going off uniform..david age 17 went 1st sept.1939.hounslow..artillery searchlights...his brother sid army uniform..across rd....sid married widow david wife..we knew them.sid lived longest 2004 devon..rest all gone now..11kids emma..more 3 died babies...her babies born clarence st..spencer st and south ave gardens..done all their tree toda... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Mar-2013
    mr baylis..of dormers school..with his clockwork radio...on tv this afternoon..cats eye also good invention.etc etc.patent is good...

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Mar-2013
    they were going to close temperate hse...kew gdns..australia newz......because deter state...but now got lottery heritage money.....to refurbish..will take 5yrs reopen..2018..multimillion£..dept environment gov...and private donation.......gt...love...kew..palm..hse has been done..gt banana plants etc..famous rare..plant rare bloom.times..huge smell..65 bus so many yrs to kew..and on district lin... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 29-Mar-2013
    loved kew too many days out there been lucky enough to travel seen some of the plants there in their natural habitat

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Mar-2013
    Kew Gdns used to be just one old penny to get in right up until the mid 1960s. . How much to get in now?

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Mar-2013
    yes collection kew ..many rare examples...scientists work..great gardeners....new refurbish...royal georgian palace now.......princess diana house orchids etc.....cactus...circular round .glass house of giant lily pad.baby sits on it in photo..ha...yes lynne ...dad worked heathrow so was lucky cheap travel...did round world ticket...the fiji..australian plants at kew..saw.on travels...gt.......bam... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Mar-2013
    google has ...around up to 1971 decimalisation years...3 old pence..thnk said free under 17.......2006..£12,,,2008 £13...2012 £15.2013 £16..but £14seniors reduced price....loads there now..people go several times yr to try see all...lovely palace audio visual etc.perfectly.refurbished.........gt shop..greenhouses..flower beds..150yrs old.temperate hse.£34m.renew.take 5yrs...yr1700s onwards c... more >>

  • Re: Has anyone else having problems with 'more' by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Mar-2013
    That's it
    1d up to the mid 60s, then 3d pre-decimalisation, but now £16 normally but £14 for pensioners. £16 is an increase of 1,280 times 3d

 
opening page by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Mar-2013
When I key into this site, it goes straight to the page starting with entry 180!! How do i get back to opening on to page ! Any ideas folks???   
  • Re: opening page by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Mar-2013
    It has just righted itelf?????

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2013
    mike.........oates book full of photos and info.....southall.....page of your....north rd.school..early yrs....girls sewing lesson..with sewing machine....class 8....mixed infants juniors...jesse payne head....demolish part of the old building.to build new part..150yrs.they had celebration...1850.stone date on part of old section...midwife of 1950s..filming new series this yr..chummy to be in it..... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Mar-2013
    Yvonne-can you please let me have Mt Oates full name, and the title of the book.

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2013
    it has been going many.yrs.......well known..some members have it...has town hall on cover..pbk........£14..reprint .bits added 2012.....dr jonathan oates....librarian ealing local history library..over 30yrs.......published..1990s.or so....southall.....part of images series.......photos of cover on our flickr board......in google it is there....he has published about 12 books over yrs...amazon..... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Mar-2013
    JONATHAN OATES Southall book is:

    IMAGES OF ENGLAND SOUTHALL
    ISBN O 7524 2268 5

    LARGE PICTURE OF SOUTHALL TOWN HALL ON THE FRONT

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2013
    lovely thanks......nice info ..our headmaster...north rd..1911 head retired..wilson..jesse payne took over..born 1776..kennel hill bedfordshire shambrook//age 5 1881.his mum annie widow taken over the business of shoeing smith...7 kids..1901 jesse southall green..lodging.age 24....1911 living southall age 34...then takes over headmaster...good man..1876 jesse.emigrates sydney australia..age.83ish.... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Mar-2013
    woops 1876..of course..born.....have been doing 3 wks of 1700s...ha..never thought go back family tree ...but pain payne to my wingrove norwood green 1801....found.1700s pain..was easier....local...nice to trace 1744 birth top tree.....they moved..fields farms dwellings..locally....church books...images of pages churches we are lucky..my goodness still there.....london archive office we handled ch... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Mar-2013
    Thanks folks-I have since been reminded that I actually have a copy, which I have since found.Apologies!

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2013
    page with girls class 8.....sewing machines....looks like 1920 or so..mr payne headmaster...mr meads southall book....says meads was there age9..1915yrs...with mr payne and head gave him the cane as..custom..with several pupils...john king gazette newspaper and printing was high st office...so camera man was near to go down the rd to north rd school...for item photos...mr meads covers 1st and 2nd ... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Mar-2013
    Mt Payne was the headmaster of North Road when I started there at the beginning of 1933. He was a widower, and csused a lot of gossip when he married Miss Mills. a teacher some decades younger than him.She was an art teacher, and tried her best to improve my artwork. I was(and still am) hopeless at art)
    He retired a few years later, and was replaced by Mr Woodley-another story.

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2013
    that all adds to photo...thanks...born 1876 village near bedford...so 60 1936.later..due retire.....1901 he is lodging southall green could be junior teacher there.age 24...then 1911 .34yrs old....mr meads 1915 has him as headmaster north rd,,,primary,,,1933...still there with you......20 more yrs..head at north rd.....photos of when was newer part of school built on front at meadow rd.....they ha... more >>

  • Re: opening page by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Mar-2013
    I started at North Rd. school in 1954 to 1956 then went to Dormers, our classrooms where in the old wooden huts in the school playground which i see have now gone.

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2013
    still got the 1850 stone carved date on one bit of old building there....jesse payne head..widower...his mum was widow in her 30s as well.....jesse age 5..sister helen age 3..18881 bedford......oldest age 14...7 kids..lodger..smithy apprentice....annie the mum..carries on blacksmith business....other payne local.....one ag labourer......another publican..another baker...looks like...dorothy .e.mil... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Mar-2013
    meads says...north rd sch..28 set 1940 bomb so shut for 6wks.....tudor rd sch.bu shelter bomb blast..so shut 6 mths..15 oct........viaduct target but 2 near misses .one landed golf links..one bmb uxbridge rd......aec target but miss hit laundry asylum.and green drive by park....photo german.map of area for pilot..on our flickr board......my cousin gdad publican old north star..by canal bridge..bot... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Mar-2013
    I just loved R.J. Mead's book "Growing up with Southall" and marvelled at how industrious the children were to earn extra money, and having to daily take breakfast and lunch to their father working in Southall. When his granny died after a short illness in 1912 (around the time when the Titanic had just gone down), his mother then had to wash and cook for her father and five brothers, as well as h... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Mar-2013
    yes gt that mike had same headmaster....births deaths..says his wife died 1937 and mr payne married the art teacher next yr....basic of everything..going back..mr meads and family time...my aunt born 1912 /1914 yrs.her brother..at 14 payed less at factory.southall..to nan...so..annoyed oldest sister had to look after 6 kids...then nan came home..cooked dinner for 6pm.....born over at canal...she a... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Mar-2013
    Yes, my daughter and I have been researching on the 1911 Census recently. She doing the actual work of finding the Census. My paternal grandmother had 12 children, but lost two as babies under a year old. This was news to us, but we still felt quite sad, as they had been christened. What amazed me most was that in the Census there were 10 of them all living in the one house in 4 rooms. Several we... more >>

  • Re: opening page by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Mar-2013
    And they think times are bad today.

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2013
    yes have been doing censuses etc 3 yrs now...love to hear daughters news....1911 ist one to put number rooms....image pages...how long married..number dead children...for gov ..work out how proceed with poor etc..but 1914 war cannon fodder...but extremem gratitude.for ever..kept hun at bay...1970 used heston church books..london....burials bapt marr....vicar tried hard..babies etc put in with othe... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2013
    rural hamlet southall..fields norw green hayes northolt....age 13 if lucky some school..girls...servant ..hated by most get married age 18...many up duff...rural folk..families..saw to it marriage..kids every 2 yrs...many most 9 plus kids.....my norwood green 12....and the only one that went usa 1870..had 12..coalmines..virginia..nice in touch now..loads tree passed.............12 kids named of fa... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2013
    in wikiped and find past....says 1921.census..place of work..interesting..june.....1931 census destroyed fire war...1941 no census....so gt.give family..your addresses..etc etc..word mouth..tape recording..so valuable......1951 house ameneties....so good ..bathrooms..etc....not old .back slung tin bath brought in....outside carse....we had one hung himself there..1906..4 kids..young .low wage poor... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 17-Mar-2013
    Pauline - I've been researching family history for some years now and was especially interested in the 1911 Census because it gives so much extra information. Like you, I've been amazed at the size of families living in just a couple of rooms but it would literally be just a couple of rooms. The lavatory would probably have been shared by many others as would the water spout. Terrible conditions i... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Mar-2013
    Yes, they must have been terribly hard times Janice. One thing I always foud rather sad was that one of my aunts stayed with my grandmother until she died, and consequently didn't get married. She ended up taking in young doctors as lodgers. She did say once that she had learnt more about life since they lived at her place! Another one married late in life and consequently didn't have any children... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2013
    must be nearly every family ..way back..to tell hard times...never heard of the deaths until saw in the church books in london...they buried the grief ..need to..strive on...one of the sons often stayed bechelor to help his widow mum...yr 1900 and to yr 1940 knew it..local heston northhyde....1930s councils coming in slowly slowly..but decades to try house people better...from old labourers workin... more >>

  • Re: opening page by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Mar-2013
    After the 1914-18 war so many young men were lost that many thousands of young women knew at an early age that their chances of marriage were slim. That is why in the '30s/-50s, there were so many references to "Maiden aunts", and why even as late as the early 50's so many single women were schoolteachers. The children at the school became the only children they ever knew.

    Even at Cuckoo In... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Mar-2013
    yes..sad ..of 1st war..so many men lost..teachers etc..my english teacher librarian...born 1910/1917......hard for ..1st females get university......she did..married before 2nd war..3 kids get born..but he goes to war..she kept his carpet firm managed and run...he came back..she continuing teaching career....girls school..many of ours old spinsters...head teacher..came from..by st davids far ..wes... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Mar-2013
    Yes Keith, you are quite right about the massive number of young men killed in the 1914-18 war. It particularly upset me to read in R.J. Mead's "Growing Up With Southall From 1904" that Southall Gazette Office loaned their shop for a recruiting centre for "Kitchener's Army" the Middlesex Regiment. Within two months 80% of the men were either dead, wounded or missing! It certainly was cannon fodder... more >>

  • Re: opening page by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Mar-2013
    Yes Pauline, it was India, Ireland etc afterwards.
    Many joined the army because the food was better and guaranteed than what they got at home. Also, were not slaves to labouring for the big country houses which got broken up after WWI as army pay was better than what they had got before. So many men gone, the big houses could no longer afford the staff when the surviving men came back to work ... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Mar-2013
    the kings shilling...bachelors took photo of their mum..or hubby..wife kids..shillings was better than chance poor payed work at home..over by xmas...but no...1916 july somme..loss..then conscription..2 heston..came back from somme lucky..but told..at pub..men knew 1917 going..that suicide death often..nans brother knew..blown to bits..1931 census ..hayes building..fire 2nd war..destroyed..but cig... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 18-Mar-2013
    My father told me of the hard times when he was a lad in Birmingham back to back houses two up one down shared toilets with eight other families. Pawned there best clothes every Monday got them out Saturday. There were eight children mum & dad and his mums sister & brother all living in this place. One of my dad's sisters was born with withered leg needed Leg Irons his mum had to beg from eight fi... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2013
    yes ..sandy all over the country ..generations...working class and labourers...only knew their neighbours...knew no different...all the same..bad dwellings they tried to scrub..put stew on..kids top to tail in one bed..rented places.......slow to get things changed..councils started up..good people salt of the earth...kids their mum...respect their 12 hr day heavy wk..dad..seasonal work often..fea... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2013
    southall scouts.....harold burgess 1920 onwards..villiers..1st group....died 14 jan 2013.worthing hospital..gazette......went war...then 1946 hanwell..scout group 1946.....1975 worked welding.blakes..acton...which moved with him..to worthing west sussex areas..to 1995...got scout awards..catholic....80 yrs scouts man..of southall........

  • Re: opening page by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Mar-2013
    It wasn't all doom and gloom on the 1911 Census, as all the daughters were working, two as Draper's Assistants and one as a dressmaker, plus all the children were at school from 10 down to 4. I was very surprised at that being at school at 4. I suppose although times had been very hard, as the older ones went out to work, however low paid, it helped out for the ones who were still at school. Since... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2013
    thought you might do..wanted to say ..jot down 1931 41...gt help....addresses jobs etc...long wait for 1921..they said wont be early like 1911 was ..but might be..security they have to watch for........yes mine..females...1911 left sch age 13...servants ealing broadway....boys age 13 farm ag labourers heston......but .sch log bks libraries say..teachers knew kids did not really do...all those yrs.... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2013
    wonder...what routine was to...find out servant vacancy 1900yrs........nan went..most had to..leave sch age 13/14...if teacher had vicar or shop high st..knew of vacancies..local paper...nan.3 kids squeezed into brood of aunt because mum dad 2 kids died...so get out leave bit of room..get somepennies..pay back..upbringing...terrible low wage scivvy she hated it....more kids got into bed...grandchi... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2013
    bankside in google bradbury describe...so good for 1931 burnt census...rooms..parlour front they waved off..son...burma..war 2nd...I could draw in detail 16 west ave of 1928 to 1961...broadway shops..good for 1931 census...NEW RADIOTIMES..HEADline..drop.one.knit one midwife..people always notice..tv mistakes...knitting needles blanket...but saw crochet squares in blanket..sew together needle wool.... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Mar-2013
    long shot....pauline.....but ..was doing flickr board2....noticed your..stevens comment....genes reunited.....lists those doing family tree.........anne doing family tree..............has anne stevens born 1949.......middlesex.says hayes..but reg dist birth cert often says sub dist hayes and southall....you click on..contact or see tree ...costs a little bit..not much...but...genes index...is f... more >>

  • Re: opening page by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Mar-2013
    Thanks Yvonne will get my daughter to assist me.
    I don't know why but I have a strong feeling Mauvine is no longer with us. Don't ask me why.

  • Re: opening page by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2013
    I wish she were ..what wonderful thing if so....yes your daughter will find it easy in google genes reunited.....so often the youngest of the family.....shows up....she would be retired and so many doing family trees ..on line....and she would want to ..coming from such lovely family....sure heard .my aunt say stevens..in 1950s.....they ran came to us west ave to call us when poor joan..was having... more >>

  • Re: opening page by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Mar-2013
    Kew Gdns used to be just one old penny to get in right up until the mid 1960s. . How much to get in now?

 
james marshall..music...southall etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
lovely articles in google....they hope to unveil plaque hanwell high st ..at spring 2013
http://www.blamepro.com/Marshall/Jim-Marshall-biography-and-company-history.asp
was it bob let us know his dad caretaker dormers school.
as had read couple yrs ago...jim james said fish not for him...he loved music
says dad owned fish chip shop western rd...
often the caretakers took job later in life....... more >>
  
  • Re: james marshall..music...southall etc by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 8-Mar-2013
    I knew Jim , but not his parents, bob

  • Re: james marshall..music...southall etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2013
    NO HIS PARENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN ..getting older ..they moved into southall green...from kensington hammersmith..think.........1923/4 jim born..age 13 left school...did notwant fish of his dad jim.fish chip western rd...........did several jobs.......1st guitar amp shop was opened 1962 hanwell high st...plaque 9th april they will crowd there..ealing music club...highly active many many yrs.....beatl... more >>

  • Re: james marshall..music...southall etc by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 9-Mar-2013
    The first shop Jim opened in Hanwell was a drum shop,he then opened a larger shop across the road. and sold other instruments as well, he employed Ken Bran to make him a bass speaker.which he started making and experimenting with in the back of the shop,with Jims finacial backing. it then developed to amplifiers.Jim knew nothing about electronics, Ken Bran was the brains. Jim then opened a small f... more >>

  • Re: james marshall..music...southall etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2013
    lovely...yes couple articles in google say 2 shops hanwell ...ist opened 1962.....your paintings.......tv now bbc2.........ealing libray..uxbridge ..hounslow....etc..collections.... in ..google....or see at library 100s of them....local scenes yrs....73 by ham of southall........today on tv....adding more info..on google...on line...the peoples paintings.....uk....so useful local social history in... more >>

  • Re: james marshall..music...southall etc by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 13-Mar-2013
    I've just been reading about James Marshall Music not that I remember the shop but it made me think of a music shop in Hanwell it was on the road where you waited for the buses to go to Brentford Great West Road,round the corner from Uxbridge Rd, this would be early 1950s I would buy a 78 for around 4 shillings, all the big bands Stan Kenton, Billy May, Jack Parnell and there was another shop tha... more >>

  • Re: james marshall..music...southall etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Mar-2013
    yrs used that bus...zeta...junction uxbridge rd.at east edge hanwell broadway...opposite st joseph catholic church...buses still come out from there from greenford....turn left east to ealing broadway........up at the lido west ealing..old cinema..corner there...buses go across.....down northfields rd...down to brentford...across gt west rd....have used for isleworth etc......music shop also..nort... more >>

  • Re: james marshall..music...southall etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2013
    gazette......4.30.sat 6 apr..wholeday.big event for him.......hanwell by clock unveil plaque........music festival.....celebrities...amps guitar......marshall.....gratitude.....shop etc.....pub concerts day event........gazette...has retro page....now tabloid...but was broadsheet....fri 30 march 1984.change......item....yr 1595.historic barn heritage barn at famous smith farm..top lady marg rd..in... more >>

 
Snells Farm, Southall by Heather.vanelkan@btinternet.com (Member 10282608) on 7-Mar-2013
I think that some of my relatives used to live/work at Snells Farm, my Mum was Mena King b1924 , her brother was Dennis b1920ish ,they lived at 82 North Rd. I know my Mum and Nan Beatrice , both went to North Rd School. Their house was opposite the Plough pub and I have memories of Snells Farm but that was when I was little, I was born 1952. I cannot find the link between the King family and Snell... more >>   
  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Mar-2013
    Heather-I used to live in North Road at No 74. I didn't know the Kings-the children were somewhat older then me-I was born in 1928, and lived in North road from 1933. I think your relarives lived next door to the Wiggins at No 84. They were also near to the Gladwishes-two girls-one Moira, and the dad was a policeman.

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Mar-2013
    Snells Farm-pre WW2 my mum used to send me to Snells farm shop to get eggs

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
    plough pub still open .on the green opposite...parade shops.of today.there..north rd school records log books..library ealing broadway local hist dept southall....mr meads book southall says snells was last farm..of pre war..1947 new prefabs built for men coming home from war..may ..mr mrs l fuller 1st to move in.in gazette.....built on farm land......before snell many yrs was ewers farm....before... more >>

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
    only on line post office directory on line free.is
    http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/pageviewer.asp?fn=0000cj2y.tif&dn=EAL20007tif&zoom=s
    1914.......mrs steptoe 1914..4 mt pleasant..at dormers northerly end road .north rd...farm.areas in 1914..dormers farm .later became snells farm....only 3 other steptoe southall green areas..george james arthur.....coincidence or type error in book...81 ... more >>

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
    steptoe along the road from your north rd gran beatrice sounds..correct as you say went to old north rd school......mt pleasant was ..large main..farm areas.along to dormers..north rd...1914 yrs...
    king..famous..southall gazette owners..many decades...high st southall shop by north rd........and king st had king gazette printers...mr meads southall book said 1st war recruiting was done in 2 king ... more >>

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by thompson (Member 10241148) on 8-Mar-2013
    I lived at 23 Dormers Rise in the prefabs, ours was one of three that were next to Snell's Farm. The three prefabs also had allotments at the rear and they were next to the Golf course; to the front was a grassed area, Dad said that it was great because the council cut his front lawn. A Tower block now stands on the site. The Lanfords were our next door neighbours, Keith was one year older than me... more >>

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
    walked past your dormers rise.....on way school....my class mate opposite osborne rd.....we were prefab..along fleming rd...8th parade...by greenford rd ..handy for path to bunny pk..brent lodge.....gas fridge flip up.table by larder...metal little unit cupboard doors.....little tiny fire coal in living room....seperate toilet bathroom..2 bed....back garden square..fenced wire...shed coal and bike... more >>

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
    http://www.familyorigins.com/users/m/i/t/Eric-A-Mitchelmore/FAMO1-0001/d3.htm

    in google..tree...wedding of steptoe...st george uxbridge rd along broadway southall
    1920,,william charles steptoe married hilda matthews..children joan maud steptoe...

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 8-Mar-2013
    I cannot remember the name of the farm but back in the 1960's I organised a scout camp on the farm that adjoined the golf course to the east of Southall and before the Iron Bridge etc. I must dig out an old map in order to identify the farm. It was the local 6th Southall "Trojans" scout group. When arranging things with the farmer I asked him from which part of the West Country he had originated ... more >>

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Heather.vanelkan@btinternet.com (Member 10282608) on 8-Mar-2013
    I remember my Dad was very active in the scout movement, firstly in Shepherds Bush then in Southall. I am thinking it may have been the Trojans. I can remember going to somewhere called The Retreat opp Holy Trinity Church, Church parades and a scout trip on a Holgates Removal lorry. My dad was a group scout leader I believe, his ñame was Russell J Willis. This would have been mid to end 50's.

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Mar-2013
    Heather you mention the Retreat across from Holly Trinity Church this was the meeting place for the 3rd Spartans scouts for church parades 1 Sunday every month in the 1950s, we also meet at Holly Trinity Hall Lady Margaret Rd & North Rd school Tuesdays & Thursdays. I had a walk round where the Retreat was its all gone now.

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by thompson (Member 10241148) on 9-Mar-2013
    I was a "Sixer" in the Trojans Cubs, we met in a hall near the Beehive Pub.
    The Leader lived in either Dormers Ave or Cornwell Ave.
    Remember church parades at Holy Trinity and one special one at St Paul's Cathedral.

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Mar-2013
    that hall still there 1960s....by bus stop 105 to southall.broadway......hall...on the east side........dormers kids..walked round to it to rehearse plays..........wood hut.....we did ..wilde .importance ernest....lady bracknell etc.........stroll back to school...dormers lane corner...with beehive at cormer..still open pub....they always called that traffic black spot.......the bend in allenby rd... more >>

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 14-Mar-2013
    We moved to prefabs Golf links Est. 1959 got married from there 1963 Holy Trinity Church Southall Never had a place all to ourselves until Mum & Dad moved there it was lovely own garden & everything lived at 14 Third Parade.

  • Re: Snells Farm, Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Mar-2013
    yes.....sandy..............we were 8th parade...by fleming rd............you were further back at 14th....did you know..christine hardman family...............at the back..high..spike ..wire fence...onto pumping building..square..then over stream little wood...millpond side.......we were up the far top..by greenford.rd.cohen the gp ...and easy near bunny pk path..across golflinks brent river......... more >>

 
Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Mar-2013
Since this morning, when I try to log on, the page which comes up is that for messages 180-200. I can get back to page 1, bit it is a nuisance. Had anyone else hasd this problem???   
  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
    IT HAPPENED TO ME MONTH AGO....seems ok now..this page down to oct..next page starts sept......twice..happened that clicked memory history..for southallknowhere....as google came up...and seemed to click an older page........but only happened twice..ok otherwise....

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Mar-2013
    Yvonne-have just logged in, and got page 1 OK!

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 4-Mar-2013
    I don't know if this helps Michael but I've made a shortcut to this site & placed it on my toolbar and it's just one click to view the site & if I need to post I log in at that time.

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
    long time now ...just put southa......in gogle...and 3 come up ..as memory....history...... click and up it comes open...site page.............

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
    flying scotsman..90 yrs 9 pm bbc2 today...southall station links also...were...........

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
    mike............snells farm memories on short page......short one single page here of ours....eggs milk..she got...horses cows.local there......

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 4-Mar-2013
    Yes Yvonne but it can't be quicker than doing just one click on the taskbar to have the Southall page come up immediately.

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
    fly scotsman 2003 last of 3 millionaires sold it to york rail museum...gloss glamour romance..steam..doncaster built saw southall station sheds photos to do with it.1924 delivered shiny to wembley empire exhibition..huge show there...task bar toolbar..use during day research...4/5 items......just quick sou ........google .....and as memory history up it comes click................close down at end... more >>

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Mar-2013
    WELL...EVERYBODY YOU SPEAK TO...HATES NEW REUNITE SITE......SINCE 2000.....MANY USED..SCHOOLS ETC SOUTHALL ETC.....JUST got my class mate....southall to toronto now ..brit columbia 9yrs....she not like reunite site......50% our school...gone..people left site.....how stupid of reunite.....cant get roads streets at all now..schools so patchy....crown cork firms used to be there......2 yrs ago...wro... more >>

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Mar-2013
    Couldn't agree more about the current Friends Reunited-I find it unusable.The original version was easy to use, with a mine of information. Why was it changed?????????

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Mar-2013
    if it aint broke dont fix it....ha......yr2000 so many started computer millenium nostalgia sites.....some loose interest......reunite.think trendy.they find..famous bits..themes etc..get people involved......but...so many members were using for their own..school street ..jobs .clubs etc..nostalgia and reunite..quick find..lost pals......reunite lost site of that.....7 times complained got knowher... more >>

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Mar-2013
    Although I didn't use it much, Friends Reunited constantly send me e-mails telling me what wonderful things they have got on their site. Don't impress me one bit, and I immediately delete it.

  • Re: Accessing the KnowhereSouthall site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Mar-2013
    yes I get them...most delete...clicked couple...but not worth it...silly...not really interesting....they seem to think the site is just for..people to..use their links themes of nostalgia......but dont think most people interested enough in their themes.......need to keep the main site also...just the way it was quick......easy to use...full full of .southall so clear...where has it gone.....they... more >>

 
Northcote Avenue by JG (Member 10283035) on 19-Feb-2013
Hi guys just doing some research on who lived on Northcote Avenue and wondering if anyone knew anything or had any pictures?   
  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
    Hi JG - I lived in Northcote Avenue from around 1937, and we moved out as a family in 1952. Spent all our childhood there during the war. Although I haven't any photos of the road itself, there are a few on our Photoboards. Whereabouts do you live in the road?

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by JG (Member 10283035) on 19-Feb-2013
    Hi Pauline, how do I access the photoboard?
    I live at 82, so between the corner shop which I understand was called Grubhams and Norman Avenue.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
    Yes, I believe you are probably living in the private part of Northcote Avenue. We lived at 153 on the council estate. I think Yvonne Butler is better qualified to tell you how to access the Photoboards. Watch this space.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
    Grubhams was a wonderful little shop where all the neighbours regularly shopped daily. They used to let you have your shopping "on tick" until you got paid at the weekend. They knew all of their customers, unlike the huge supermarkets today,and no doubt helped us as a family, and loads of other families to get through the week.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Feb-2013
    best wish jg...the yrs always helps..we were west ave 1928 to 61.family....relatives..northcote ave 1930s to 1989.......photos are good on google..the house selling....gt one of ..think..down by pauline..row of 4/5 houses there...east side..down by spikes bridge rd...our ron..lived..off at..dane..we have members saxon....norman ave.had 1958daughter her of mayor haigh.we all used grubhams..1950s ha... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Feb-2013
    your yrs...try ..friends reunited...11 yrs site there...members southall...in ...places section.....they do roads...yrs numbers.families....quite few houses northcote ave there......in google free site....places streets.....schools gives yrs of...students at local schools..who chat and photos there.....streetview is gt..2008 yrs van camera went round..northcote ave etc..broadway....houses doors fr... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
    One piece of history, which only the people who lived there at that time would remember, was the ending of World War 11 in Europe in 1945. As kids, when we were in bed, we heard a lot of shouting out in the street, and when we looked out of the window people were shouting that the war was over. Everyone was going absolutely mad. We all got dressed and went outside, and within a very short time a h... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Feb-2013
    some schools or students do projects..who lived life your house street before you...ealing broadway library local social history dept open 7 days week..loads photos..electoral role..each street each decade..jobs.occupants etc,,census 1911 in google....82 probably west side..let us know ..what happens with northcote pub..and how spikes pk develops new starting there..refurbish..thanks.....7 days we... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
    Another piece of history in Northcote Avenue were the two Costermongers who both lived there. There was Percy Rose who had a horse and cart further up the road on the same side as we were. He used to trade in the town, and the Ive fsmily who also had a horse and cart and were very well known in Southall. They, too, traded around Southall with their fruit and vegetables, etc. and lived directly opp... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 19-Feb-2013
    Hi Pauline, thanks for your kind words about my Nan (Mrs Ive), the one thing she always made sure of was that anybody who visited was well fed. I spent the first year of my life at 140, before my mum, Joyce Ive, and dad got a flat in Western Road; but I spent a lot of time at Nan's until I went school. Two things stick in my mind, one was Nan boiling up beetroots in an old copper in the kitchen an... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
    Hi Colin, that's so nice to hear from you, and to know you are the nephew of John Ive. Fancy, he's still going strong at 90. He's a few years older than me, as I'm only 82 this year. I remember a grand daughter of your Nan came on this Site a few years ago after she had read a piece I put on about your Nan's toffee apples then. She talked about how your Nan always had a spare dinner if anyone turn... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
    Hi Colin - I've just found the post from your Nan's grand daughter Sarah on May 2009:

    The post on March 6th from Pauline was great to read, Mrs Ive was my Nan! I now have a great image of her and the toffee apples.My dad was Cyril the second youngest of the Ive family, sadly he passed away 11 years ago.We are still in contact with all my dads surviving brothers and now only one sister.My uncle ... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 19-Feb-2013
    Hi Pauline, it was my cousin Sarah who said about the toffee apples before, I don't think it was her mum and dad you were thinking of, I think it may have been her grandparents whose name was Thompson and they lived in Cherry Avenue and if memory serves me correctly Mr Thompson worked for AEC like your dad. Sarah's mother's name was Eileen, known as Nina, and she is about the same age as yourself,... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 19-Feb-2013
    I remember the trio that played for dancing in the Northcote for years. Gladys, Sid, and Knobby.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Feb-2013
    My friend Mauvine and I used to sneak round the back of the Northcote when the music was playing in the dance hall. We were too young to go in there, and I would get a telling off if my dad found out. When the Yanks arrived there were often fights going on over the girls. We always made ourselves scarce if that ever happened. The music was nice to listen to though.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by thompson (Member 10241148) on 20-Feb-2013
    Lived at 127 from approx 1952, until I got married in the ealy 1960's.
    Mum, Dad and Grandmother Flo Rowbottom moved out in the early 1970's.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Feb-2013
    Thanks Colin. Yes, you were right. When I looked back on the Saxon road thread in 2009 (can't believe it was that long ago) Sarah mentions that it was probably her grandfather Bill Thompson and her Nan, who was called Violet, where we all went to in Cherry Avenue. They evidently had a lot of parties. A long time ago!

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Feb-2013
    JG - If you can locate SOUTHALLBOARD 5 there are some nice ones of Northcote Avenue, and one of Spikes Bridge road where we used to walk through the alleyway to the canal. We only used to go that way when we were walking to the canal, and over the bridge, otherwise we would go in the entrance of the Municipal Sports Ground to go to the playground or play rounders and racing in the park. We could s... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by JG (Member 10283035) on 21-Feb-2013
    Hi guys, you've been a lot of help. I've read a lot of interesting stories. How do I access Storyboard 5?

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Feb-2013
    Try entering below in Google to get Southallboard5
    Flickr: southallboard5's Photostream
    www.flickr.com/photos/47964609@N06/

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Feb-2013
    JG I'm not the best person to be advising you about this, but try what Yvonne told you. Tap in the following in Google:

    flickr photostream southallboard5

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Feb-2013
    "Rounders"? WHen is the last time you saw kids playing rounders?? Kids today would not know what 'rounders' is, and more importantly, we used to organise these things for ourselves. Today, kids would be incapable of arranging a game of rounders. The ability to organise anything for themselves has been "educated out of them". The Nanny State does not like things like this, it might violate ... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 21-Feb-2013
    I remember rounders being run by the teachers at Tudor Rd infants.The site was adjacent to the toilet block ie 1939-42.
    On a quiz show here in OZ the other night a question was asked, what game played with a bat where one had to stop other players hitting their legs with a ball. Two contestants(both in late 20`s) did not know. They were given 3 possible answers.
    I think you are right these simpl... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 21-Feb-2013
    French Cricket is the answer.I hope every one knew the answer.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 22-Feb-2013
    Having accompanied my grandson to Beavers, I was persuaded to stay and help. There is a real need to organise some suitable scout hut games. However, when I dug out some old books of scout games I found that hardly any would now be acceptable. Games like British Bulldog and the many variants etc etc all involved body contact that could lead to complaints and worse. I have mixed feelings about this... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Feb-2013
    there are so many millions..youth uk and abroad...only hear of smaller number of any age....many cope with vaste wide input of world 2013...many most huge credit to them and their parents...each generation back..pros cons..of .life all ages..problems etc..have worked career with all ages.... 2013 most are such polite intelligent kind.healthy...each generation..different things..thank goodness they... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Feb-2013
    Yes, I agree that a lot of youngsters do need more excitement and activity. However, it can never be the same as it was in our younger days in Southall. Apart from the climbing of trees, which I did with my brothers and their friends in Southall park - even climbed the tallest tree there, we walked everywhere. If we wanted to go to Kew gardens we all knew we didn't have enough money to ride there,... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Feb-2013
    Sorry about the spelling" "freedon" should be "freedom" and "conkered" should be "conkers".
    Have to go to "Specsavers".

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 22-Feb-2013
    How did we ever survive to reach the great ages we are? We did so many things that are considered too dangerous for todays children.
    I loved rounders and I was a pretty good hitter and sprinter. Hated Hockey though.When you think that the boys used to dive into the cut from the bridge over Spikes Bridge not knowing what had been thrown in there.Out all day over the park with some sandwiches (jam ... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Feb-2013
    I think that lemonade powder was called creamola foam sold by weight in paper bags

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 22-Feb-2013
    The lemonade crystals that I remember were sold from a big glass sweet jar. They were yellow crystals. We used to buy 2 ounces then mix with water until it tasted lemony enough. The rest we would dip our fingers in and lick off. Ended up with a yellow finger.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Feb-2013
    Oh! I remember those yellow crystals Dylis. I'd forgotten all about the yellow finger. I do remember getting very thirsty when we were out and about, especially when we were hsving a hot summer!

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Feb-2013
    Sherbet lemons anyone??

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Feb-2013
    Yes please Keith. They were one of my favourites, but they were a bit sharp.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by thompson (Member 10241148) on 23-Feb-2013
    On our way to Dormers Wells school, there was a small shop on route that sold small bottles of pop.
    Some were very odd colours. The shop was between the parade of shops and Martins opposite the Beehive Pub.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Feb-2013
    so many yrs that shop opposite beehive got used by dormers kids for sweets....was post office at one time..still there grocers..beehive still open.......then the little bits of shops as you go around...the big bend...into..shops along..mt pleasant..straight row shops..used by many over the yrs.....another bend and going into north rd..off to the south ..or into carlisle ave.....southall policeman ... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 23-Feb-2013
    Hi I have been reading with much interest this site for some time and delight in reading and recalling many of my old haunts. I lived in Viking Road from 1941 (when I was very small) until 1959. I went to Dormers Wells School which I left in 1955 and frequented the sweet shop opposite the beehive. My maiden name was Johnson and just wonder if anyone remembers me. I shall continue to follow this ... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Feb-2013
    Hi Valerie - I used to live in Northcote Avenue, and I remember a very good looking guy with red hair whose name was Johnson, who lived in your vicinity. He was quite a bit older than me. This would have been in the late 1940's.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 23-Feb-2013
    Hello Pauline I do have a brother his name is Terry and he is 79 (6 years older than me) but he didn't have ginger hair it was mousy and is now white. I am trying to recall someone older with ginger hair but can't at present. The last time I came to Southall was for a school union in 2000.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Feb-2013
    I recall the small shop at Mount Pleasant on the bend the lady in the shop also sold homemade ice lollies for 1d old money i think it is now a house.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Feb-2013
    I was at Dormers Wells 1940-1942(then went on to Southall Tech). I remember that sweet shop;I also remember a lady who lived in one of the nearby houses, a Mrs Martin. She was oftem at her gate shouting out the supposed mis-deeds of the Dormers Wells kids. We used to shout out a little rhyme "Old mother Martin, keeps on -----!

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Feb-2013
    Although I didn't go to Dormers Wells school, my sister Jennifer Hackman was there until 1952, when we moved out of Northcote Avenue. She would have been 13 when she left Dormers Wells. She was absolutely devastated when we moved, as she excelled in all the sports there, and competed for the school.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Feb-2013
    best wishes val....1955 leaving dormers...so many of us went there..miss morris was head when I was there..friends reunited free site..has all the yrs pupils teachers memories....closed the old walk in now..right to girls side .they demolish 2013...new building 2012.on the back fields..so security entrance students swipe card to gao in..at allenby rd 1014 students.to 6th form 19yrs old..mixed now.... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Feb-2013
    todays gazette....uxbridge and all local areas editions.....in google..london air ambulance move from denham now northolt airport...they had the sea king helicopters there for olympics with typhoons...wednesday itv new series..same house lived families 1944 1976 2012...costume..lovely gill halfpenny gt actress and gt jive at tv strictly dancing...saw yesterday local...old sweet shop high st...load... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Feb-2013
    cant see meaning yet of yesterday 1940s theme cafe shop.lots items 1940s for sale...bottles beer labels..black as your hat etc....but black nooker knocker iron knocker london newgate prison..ace spades..tar .thunder....whole lists of all in google at phrases......my cousin out all day..into everything..old days so many expressions daily...he is black as ace spades etc etc..colourful language old days..often daily...

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 24-Feb-2013
    As a boy I was sad to see that my mother did not use her full ration for sweets (and for some other items). I now understand that we could not afford them. I remember that occasionally Ives in Western Road had some unrationed liquorice sticks that were woody and had to be chewed and sucked to extract the flavour. When I was at Western Road primary we were one occasion given a tin of sultanas that... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Feb-2013
    Those Liquorice Sticks sound like the Spanish Wood that we used to buy in the sweet shops. They were quite addictive, but didn't last long. My mother didn't use all her clothing coupons during the war, mostly because they weren't able to afford new clothes. I think our neighbours next door used to do a swop for something or other. I also remember my mother used to ask Grubham's for ham bones, and ... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 24-Feb-2013
    The little shop between North Parade and Allenby Rd. was Broads owned by Mrs Broad who made those lovely penny lollies and penny drinks.This would have been in the 40s and 50s. My son who was born in 1961 remembers it as Kennetts but says it wasn't open for long.My husband remembers Mrs Broad very well as he only lived round the corner in Allenby Rd.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 24-Feb-2013
    Thanks Yvonne Miss Hall was the Headmistress while I was at DWS and I had a good friend in both West Ave and East Ave. My parents were still in Viking Rd until around 1986. I am a member of Friends Reunited and have followed the news of the new building etc with interest. Best wishes Valerie

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Feb-2013
    lovely val.....yes lots nice comments ..school on reunited...1986...yes...we local....changes...but gt memories of nan..aunts..managing the..broadway shops...war 40s..50s 60s..parkers bread...butcher..greengrocer stalls...etc..what was surname friend east ave west ave...we knew some..names neighbours...most nice front gardens..lawn flower beds,,,hedge around..play hop scotch on paving slabs.....co... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 24-Feb-2013
    Interesting that you mention 607 & 207 again. My brother (now 80) says that when the trolleybuses went, that coincided with the period of greatest change in our area. Life was safe, stable and unruffled when we had trolleybuses, but by 1961 when the Routemasters were with us, change was rapid and little of it for the better, , I can agree to some extent with what he says, as the 50s were a c... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 25-Feb-2013
    Hi Yvonne the surnames were Smith East Ave and Marks West Ave. I was actually born in Clarence Street but moved to Viking Road when very small. I have the book SOUTHALL 830-1982 by R.J. Meads which I bought in the 1980's whilst visiting my parents. I also have Images of England SOUTHALL compiled by Jonathan Oates. I dip into them both from time to time.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 25-Feb-2013
    Hello to Valerie Brown (nee Johnson): I think we must have gone to Dormers around the same time as I remember Miss Hall very well. Always wore a skirt suit, shirt and tie and had a very mannish haircut. Very formidable, wouldn't stand for any nonsense.

    My surname was Johnson and I lived in Northcote Avenue, probably about the time you lived in Viking, but I don't remember you. I do remember a F... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Feb-2013
    miss morris went after hall....secretary was mrs grey..1934 school..same office...south side.....boys head office next at entrance ..they all came from 1920s 30s education...degree....but no teacher training colleges then...I worked library teachers college acton high st...new lovely teachers developing....morris was quieter..was respect..tweedy brown boot shoes..born far west wales went back to r... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Feb-2013
    Janice - was that chewing gum which was wrapped, and was pink, called bubbly gum? If it was I loved it. It was good to blow bubbles in which popped as well! Got into trouble chewing it in class at Tudor road.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 25-Feb-2013
    Hi Pauline - I think the bubbly gum was mostly pink and smelled slightly perfumed but the gum I mentioned was mostly white or had a kind of mother-of-pearl look to it and it didn't make bubbles - very strange stuff. Goodness knows what we put down our throats in those days when we couldn't get 'real' sweets.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Feb-2013
    I used to get bubble gum from Goldswains near North Road School, also Spanish Wood. They also used to sell small bottles of coloured water-forget what they called it!

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Valerie Brown (Member 10261654) on 25-Feb-2013
    Janice Yes we must have been at Dormers at the same time. I still have a brochure for the Dormers Wells Girls School Coming of Age 1934-55 including a picture of Miss Hall. Sorry I do not recall Frank Johnson I'm certain there were no other Johnsons in Viking Rd at that time. As for Spanish wood I hated it. Can't remember the dried bean or chewing gum. I did attend classes at the Margaret Nor... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Feb-2013
    that is rare booklet......20 yrs dormers....my dad aunt there 1934...from west ave......dennis upton is bk..in google..southall war......oates book..southall etc war.......oates southall hanwell book....2013 talks £2...£4...couple hrs ..photos films etc ealing library by oates etc..librarian speakers....june ealing and southall film studios........30 may christie murderer oates book...southall c... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by penny (Member 10265839) on 25-Feb-2013
    Ives Newsagent also sold 1d Arrow toffee bars, everlasting toffee strips. Who remembers Mrs Boot's sweetshop further up Western Road? She made lovely penny ice lollies. It was in a small parade of shops containing, I think, a hairdressers and chemist.
    Free huge fluorescent pink chunks of bubble gum were given out by workers at the factory near Canteen Cottages. I knew 2 families living there,... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Feb-2013
    was canteen pub...gone...by.then.....my wingrove family there..early yrs and had northyde farm next to it.....gdad brother was at canteen cottages...they were there well over 100yrs.....mr hill and couple of members here spoke of bubble gum factory...there....so 1952...was it that the ..old barracks orphanage was demolished..aeradio office took over.........................heston airport the war a... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 26-Feb-2013
    As boys we used to climb into the old orphanage buildings by Canteen Cottages and make camps in amongst the boxes stored there. I may still have somewhere some of the labels produced for the coronation packs of gum. Part of the building was used to store stage props for a theatre and we played in cinderella's coach. It was an eerie place but that was part of the excitement. The large rooms with fi... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Feb-2013
    so interesting bill......my family lived the common..and north hyde lane.....google and this site lots memories...3 chapels there...aeradio.had office in one old chapel..1958.yrs 1960 ish.....they said it was haunted...photos diagrams maps of area..barrack row little side bit..farm orchard barrack parade ground ..used late 50s etc for.parade .modern cadets...old orphan drawn.diagram of rooms..so y... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Feb-2013
    nice sites in google..memorabile ephemera..the wrapper .a and bc bubble gum cricklewood.3d.old pence..coronation etc.....uxbridge has 1940s new cafe shop..theme...tea and sells .40s etc..items.....heston.airport..gravel pits.brickfields..and later took gravel to make heathrow runway..dad came back from war and enjoyed working there then to heathrow..heston biggest hanger at the time preserved ther... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Feb-2013
    I think it was common in those days to tell kids that places were haunted, as it kept them out. Kids were scared more easily then, and there were lots of places that adults didn't want kids to go..

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 26-Feb-2013
    So many memories listed here I remember Heston airport and the gravel pits where we used to catch newts with a stick, a length of cotton with a worm on the end, we would have a jar full in no time for the school nature table. The bubble gum factory where you would knock on a side door and they would give you a large off cut of pink gum, one of my brothers friends would carve it into bite size pie... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Feb-2013
    yes....but..it was 1960 the new aeradio offices there..mr hill said ..some had to work in the old chapel part of the old orphanage which was still standing..he said on our site that the workers said it was haunted...they did not want to go there...said tunnel also..nearby cranford pk house tales of haunted......barracks building 1857 to 1930s orphans from all over london..to demolish 1952..well ov... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 26-Feb-2013
    I was one of those kids begging gum of the yanks, when they parked their lorrys down The Commom, with the words. ''Got any gum chum''

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 26-Feb-2013
    Sorry . The Common

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Feb-2013
    cant turn right over hump bridge ..as go along common....efforts to reduce weight load over old 200yrs brick bridge....but into regina..then turn around there........tv today .channel 19 freeview...uxbridge ops room.layed out day churchill there said to the few...of battle britain and .mess room raf northolt...3 geneology of 1940..pilot..waf lady plotted miss birch and joan fanshaw spoke.grammar g... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 26-Feb-2013
    Yvonne. Could you name the freeveiw channels name as the number is not always the same here in Swansea.
    Thanks BOB

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Feb-2013
    yes bob......it is called yesterday.....channel 19...was 12 but now 19....find my past series..dozen programmes have been so very good excellent....interesting famous times people in past with 3 ..descendents now..geneology...and whole stories told....uxbridge northolt battle britain..done.........1st war trenches.dan snow grandfather general of the somme......mutiny bounty..titanic..etc..geneolog... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 27-Feb-2013
    I have a circa 1900 postcard of Southall High Street, at the cross roads with the old St John's church ahead and Havelock Arms just out of sight on the left. It is interesting to see that the finger sign post includes North Hyde. It was obviously regarded much more as a distinct named "village" than it is now. Another postcard of the same era shows Canalside North Hyde with children playing. As th... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Feb-2013
    in google....yesterday tv channel wikipedia........nice page info 2002 started..list of all good programmes they have done..do...........also tv screen..bbc radio 4 extra...repeat of the best 1950s etc radio programmes.......708 channel at tv screen..sound of radio4 extra........hancock half hour etc.plays..radio times is good..or saturday the free tv magazines..show it all...says uk channels....m... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Feb-2013
    always interesting from bill....have the postcard kids along canal.....1900...yes my crowd local then...gdad 10......nan local..was 10....lived that area.....junction pub still open..film at bulls bridge and 3 bridges..bargee harry corbett..ron barker..miriam karlin...photos on our board..good southall film studio site in google......have some photos high st 1900......dont think this one....sign t... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Feb-2013
    mr meads lifetime southall booklet here photos...died 1982 elderly....king st co op.1905 bank...photo..
    http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/southall830/page32.html
    in google..many pages photos etc..yrs southall ..southall green ..old southall...over the other side...

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 27-Feb-2013
    thank you Yvonne.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Feb-2013
    Yvonne-I have been thumbing through the pages of the RJ Meads document for the war years. For 1944 it records that the War Office on behalf of Cramic Engineering, 13 boys from Southall Tech were recruited to help with an urgent contract.I was one of the 13-had forgotten about it over the years, now it has all come flooding back.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Feb-2013
    how amazing ..gt mike.....mr meads is good.....not many towns have many pages booklet like southall by him....we are lucky...colin.gave us lots of meads and.also.southall local social history society of 1960.....on line in google...ive family....

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 28-Feb-2013
    In my above entry it should read 33 boys.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Mar-2013
    1963 ......big freeze....bbc tv..was on again last night..buses trains...etc..waters frozen over....we were all out all day in it..1963....but pinch punch no returns.1st month...spring peeping through now...milder...daffs up.....award winning well known irishman boyne book we had ...was on bbc4 last night boy pajamas..unique idea..putting unusual slant on things...so well acted by the two boy children....germany

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Mar-2013
    Although I don't remember Harris Pawnbrokers at the top of Abbotts road, in R.J.Mead's 830-1982, I do remember there were always three brass balls hanging over a shop just before you got to Avenue road in the High street. Can anyone remember what shop this was over? I know Bradbury's the Jewellers was along there, but can't remember the Pawnbrokers.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Mar-2013
    just that always remember bus coming ..into west ealing..shops....1st bit of shops...on left north side.....on corner dark old shop...3 brass balls hanging high..at shop front..pawnbroke..1950s 60s...many many yrs there................old.2nd hand furniture opposite ..on corner south side.......through hanwell on bus..uxbridge rd...rspca..south side tall old house...photo on our board.....there ma... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Mar-2013
    In the old days many people could not read or write so recognised shop signs hung outside shops to signify the trade going on at that location. Nearly all of these have disappeared now but barbers red/white striped pole you still see occasionally. The 3 brass balls was the universally recognised sign for pawnbrokers and I think only someone with a pawnbroker's license could use it.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Mar-2013
    yes and it was in top corner of the old corner shop...brass balls..many yrs..west ealing..first bit of shops...as you go in...north west.....after the big stone mason house..open front..lawn of stone for headstones.......red white barber stripe twist pole...in conserved village chalfont st giles...still there 2013...shop there ..thatched cottages...by harefield middx.......blood barber ..old surg... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Mar-2013
    Yes, were still some old signs around in the early '60s. Martins Bank used grasshopper sign outside all their branches until they got taken over by Barclays again in the 60s.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Mar-2013
    yes one old bank east side south rd..southall our photo with..hanging..sign....now 5 pm today evacuees..going train...by jack rosenthal...he wrote some corrie...his wife maureen lipman...excellent script...gt acting......crowds kids school being taken off .gas masks etc..tin corn beef..mum visits them once month..she works munitions....luggage label brown pin to lapel jacket....name...wave caps as... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Mar-2013
    CHANNEL 19 CALLED yesterday channel..hour evacuees..today.....new film...march...itv...our queen..whole yr..at olympics etc....they asked princess ann if ok ask queen jump helicopter bond spoof...ann though hilarious...queen said yes......love state banquets windsor castle waterloo room....seen tv...gt.....itv march wil l be....2013coronation yr...black car to abbey..for june service queen....str... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
    PAULINE..RON.....my god just got northcote pub 1909..road etc..will get it on flickr later with others..rare..lucky..board 5 photo yellow brown orangey northcote pub..I.got over 2 yrs ago from camra pub site they email attach sent me only one they had 1950 and older yrs..rare was so lucky to get that favourite one..never know who little girl in front was walking over huge cellar wood double open d... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Mar-2013
    Look forward to seeing it Yvonne. Although it's good to see the photo on Southallboard5 all yellowy, I can't say I ever remember seeing it that colour. Mind you, we left Northcote Avenue in 1952. I bet that Northcote Arms could tell some tales! One of the oldest customers I remember as a young girl, was a Mrs Squires who would always be in the Off-licence in the evenings. She was always dressed co... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
    thats interesting..landlord.....yes 50s type of photo..browny yellow.....in the 50s 60s ..we had fuji film camera...funny colours when 1st started.....and old camera film..of 40s 50s..colour 1st ones....think they were bit browny yellow......good for the pub society for sending me that one......listed building edwardian 1907.pub...but fires....they will have to build new.....hotel or elderly home.... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
    squeezed them on board 28........board2..board5 also.....mrs squires....is not rare surname...but grandaughter diane did ballet dance to high standard southall as a girl.went to dormers.born 1949...of the son ..squires...grandmother 1950s..living at council house...golflinks estate front section...faraday .telford....went to her terraced house far back right corner...behind little parade of shop..... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
    1937 yrs pubs..landlords..northcote.william john lewis...smiles at railway hotel became glassy pub...beehive was pavis....oliver wells at white hart high st....buck at wagon horses near hayes bridge...drake at hamborough taven.....standley at white swan king st........carr at red lion high st......arthur george newman at george dragon high st..gone now..........photos board28....and photo rare whi... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Mar-2013
    The licensee of The Plough in North Road for quite a while pre-war was named Buck. Any connection???

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
    enoch edward buck......plough north rd.1933 1937 directories......often 2 brothers did pubs..dylis husband family.boot..couple at pubs........by cousin 1913 his gdad old north star by canal northhyde...1914 uxbridge 3 brothers and their dad publicans..all went war..died..cousin gdad died of wounds...nov 1918..towards end...queen windsor just gone in hosp stomach bug 86.best wish her....

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Mar-2013
    wagon horses south side...nice garden..uxbridge rd up by hayes bridge southall...alfred buck.....easily be brothers...lots were....1926 1933 1937 directories post office......ancestry free index in google is great for electoral roles...year name etc....busy pm..tony job needs postcard sketch black white theme...ha..got lumbered...zebra crossing belisha beacon piano keyboard and print abbey road in... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Mar-2013
    gt photo sky strange news page...guard door hosp...ton tall ..ton titch..5ft 6 smallest in met police ton tall 7ft 2..tallest ....queen 5ft 4...3pm sunday car to london hosp..drip..2days approx..gastro..routine....best wishes to her..87 april.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Mar-2013
    http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/pageviewer.asp?fn=0000cj2y.tif&dn=EAL20007tif&zoom=s

    free on line 1914.post off directory..
    dennis grubham the father at corner shop..northcote ave..number 61.......alfred stride at 82 northcote ave west side....84 was last house...rest not built.....same on east side 79 last house.....rest not built..towards canal ..pub there built 1907/8..photo 1909 on... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Mar-2013
    I noticed in West End Road yesterday the Beaconsfield Arms has now been demolished

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Mar-2013
    relative my family tree lived west end rd..........photoin google..beaconsfield pub..number 63...photo of it gone aug 2010....end of cream painted house...then ...high boards across...empty space then...usually build housing................good in google kevan dead pubs..info....then enter southall etc..........photos etc...suppose 2013 northcote pub still the same boarded...yrs now await...see what they do....

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by thompson (Member 10241148) on 21-Mar-2013
    Reflecting back on my time in Northcote Ave, made me think of the Saturday morning errand to buy bread.
    The independent and plant bakeries in the West London area were:-
    Southall - Prices, Fowlers, the bakers on the corner of Regina Rd,the bakers by the Bowling alley and the one at the Northolt end of Lady Margaret Rd. There were also branch shops for Lists, Parkers, Harringtons and a Hayes bak... more >>

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 22-Mar-2013
    The bakery I remember on North parade and Lady Margaret was Belfields. My friends mum worked there and used to give us a cake each from any that were over at the end of the day.
    Any bread over was sold cheaper, ideal for bread pudding. Bread didn't keep in those days. Not full of preservatives like now.

  • Re: Northcote Avenue by thompson (Member 10241148) on 24-Mar-2013
    Dillys thanks for reminding me, that it was Bellfields. As a Bakery Technologist I was always impressed by the quality and flavour of their products. Whenever I was in the area working or visiting Mum, I would call into their shops.

 
Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 16-Feb-2013
Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle? Whenever it came to the end of the Gibbs SR Toothpaste, Mum would would go outside to the hand mangle & get the very last drop of toothpaste out of it. Waste not want not. I must say the plastic tubes they have these days are not as good to extrude every last drop out of.   
  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2013
    the gadget on the top of the saradine pilchard tin.......turns a tight roll of the tin back..... did see a little turning once on toothpaste tube...and of couse southall gordon rd area tube..factory toothpaste....tubes.......macleans,,,was gt deco building...gt west rd....to beechams...across rd..their building got taken by rank..films..with beecham lucozade next to it...2013 modern glass new buil... more >>

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2013
    fab last night.bbc tv....be on computer digital..50 yrs beatles 12 hrs .abbey rd north london..making please please me album.all gt hits...tony .myself...each got a copy...the blend of their voices drums ringo..song writing..polish of george martin...top stars.there recreated the gt day and songs....mangle we had out back..1928 to 1961...go through twice..sheets nearly...dry lots water out of them... more >>

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 16-Feb-2013
    Mention of the old fashioned mangle, reminds me of a boyhood incident. Mum kept the mangle in a shed adjacent to the house.
    On one occasion, when I was playing, I got some old newspapers.soaked then in water, then put them through the mangle. This produced a thin sheet of material. Unfortunately it left the rollers stained black. I was not popular!!

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Feb-2013
    I can remember using salt to clean our teeth during WW11. I can't remember when toothpaste started. I know I liked toothpaste the best.

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Feb-2013
    Thinking about it, I can remember my dad telling us that they used to use soot to clean their teeth. Mind you, that would have been before 1914-1918 war.

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 16-Feb-2013
    There is so much air in toothpaste tubes these days that recently, I wrote to Colgate and complained about it. They sent me £4 in coupons

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 16-Feb-2013
    Sorry Yvonne. It was Bill Eydon playing drums on the Beatles records. He and Micky Waller played also on the Stones records. Micky Waller was taught by The Great Jim Marshall. Bill Eydon regulary played modern jazz in The White Hart..

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2013
    thanks just telling my husband...we both..had beatles etc records...bill...lots in google.....if you want to see good...sunday night..11.15 pm..beatles 1st album.abbey rd...50th aniversary..please please me....12 hr session..they arrived ..and technicians noticed how they did not stop for lunch..worked 12 hrs..gt hits......channel freeview...bbc4..or digital on computer.....so enjoyed it...bill ta... more >>

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2013
    bit tired for reading google..out lovely spring day today...but says bill..died 2004 oct.isleworth...his obituary...and he wrote about sessions.....continued play jazz and taught drums at some ealing schools.......born hounslow 1930 ...good man..........hutnell ..everybody at abbey rd 50 th celebration.... the current stars sang gt beatles hits...on sunday 11.15 pm..tv

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 16-Feb-2013
    Yvonne. What was Bills surname? Was it Dean? I dont like the fact that groups get all the credit when they haven't played on the recording, Bill Eydon probably got about £12 for a three hour session. Jim Marshall had two shops in Hanwell. then one in Ealing Broadway.He used to live at 32 Lonsdale rd Southall.And he had 26 drum students at one time, that he taught from his two up two down terrace... more >>

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Feb-2013
    in google got.william james eyden.born 4 may 1930.....got him with harry dean stanton and bernie taupin..on whiter shade of pale........the gt photo cover 1963..please please me.is over the balcony...back of album ccover published and on..wikipedia......copies the published credits on back of cover.....george martin arrange....andy white played drum..on 2 songs...love me do and ps love you........... more >>

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 17-Feb-2013
    The earliest toothpaste i can remember is Macleans.

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Feb-2013
    read that the macleans factory was on corner..ealing rd junction gt west rd.....I worked there and saw gradual..move...out to cuntryside leatherhead,,,leaving offices..more so..at gt west rd...lucozade factory .cola etc..still there 1970...we had tunnel there under rd..to restaurant..staff shop...over on south side.we had free samples..etc...plain tubes.mcleans..from the labs.........aggers on des... more >>

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 17-Feb-2013
    I remember Kolynos

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 17-Feb-2013
    I remember we had tins of Gibbs toothpaste which contained paste in a solid block in a round flat tin. By the time my brothers had finished grinding their wet toothbrushes into the block to make a paste nobody else felt like using it!

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 17-Feb-2013
    I used to work at Parke, Davis on the Staines Road in Hounslow, and their Euthymol toothpaste was one of the nastiest toothpastes that I've ever had the misfortune to use.

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 17-Feb-2013
    Remember my father, when he had somewhere important to go, putting his hand up the chimney to get soot to mix with salt to clean his teeth.

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 17-Feb-2013
    The paste was pink and came in a round tin.I was hard stuff so you couldent realy call it paste as you had to wet it to get it on your brush

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 17-Feb-2013
    Talk of toothpaste inevitably reminds me of the school dentist. When I started school in 1933, the school dentist was based at Featherstone Road. Later it moved into a medical centre that had been part of North Road Infants School. The dentist was a Scottish lady, who I understand remained there until her retirement

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Feb-2013
    Keith i think we all remember North Road dentist i only had 1 tooth out there but i do not think i have bleed as much i my life

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by thompson (Member 10241148) on 18-Feb-2013
    Harping back to Jim Marshall.
    The reason his amps had and still have a roar sound, is the fact that he used good old fashion valves.
    One Island resident that continued to use Marshall Amps was the great Jet Harris, until his death Sadly Jim has passed away also.

    Jet continued touring and performing until a few weeks before his death. He was well liked on the Island and always filled the theatres here.

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Feb-2013
    we see ..hear of isle wight festival...thats night..often we have had holidays..over there..so thats 2 of you..our members here..isle wight....many yrs now...dee haigh...her mum..and her went..dee plays good part over there......her dad mayor southall 1957 ish.....haigh..picture frame family..by canal ..norwood bridge..of old..norwood flour mill..history..few yrs now in the news about mr marshall.... more >>

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 18-Feb-2013
    Jet Harris knew Southall, he used to visit His relatives in Clarence Street. and Ken Bran who Jim Marshall owed everything to, lived on the airport estate. The Ringway Heston.

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Feb-2013
    ringway has got a chat info site...on our short page..here on our site...my family 1850 to 1958..were north star cottage..demolished by ba.to build employees houses ringway just there...gdad brother got chucked out they were al born in cottage..he died 1/2 yrs after......sad richard briers just died good life.bbc comedy.filmed northwood houses by ruislip...gt lenin cockrell on our buses..photos ou... more >>

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Feb-2013
    I just went to Hampton for the weekend. Still nice there, but Hanworth, Feltham, Cranford, Hounslow > UGH!!. If I leave Sussex and come back to London, it will very likely be Hampton

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Feb-2013
    hampton ct gt day out..daffs in spring..lakes and flower show..was gt ....ham house also lovely..richmond pk into..richmond high st...kew gdns.....bushy pk diana ftn,,and tonys old job at npl...not always easy parking areas.....did the buses .long way.though..

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by thompson (Member 10241148) on 19-Feb-2013
    What a small world it is, I did not know that Jet (Terrance) Harris had family like I, living in Clarence Street. This could have been another topic of conversation the times our paths crossed over here. In the 1960's I worked with his first wife Carol; Uncle Danny, who was the night baker at Cliffords of Heston.

  • Re: Does anyone remember putting the tootpaste through the mangle by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Feb-2013
    mike....................just got message from..lady born 1934 burns ave......static water tank..by snells farm..war...they got butter there.....burns..police was george southall.....war salvage lorry came round..mayor..rewarded

 
Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 8-Feb-2013
When I was a small child in the late 40s, my mum got her veg in the greengrocers on the Green and next door to it was a horse meat shop. I can remember the men carrying the carcases into the shop but don't remember seeing any customers. Mum used the Co-op butchers and there was always a queue. Meat was on ration and there was not a lot of choice. There were lots of rabbits hanging up, which still... more >>   
  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2013
    my aunt used to get pieces rabbit...stew casserole..was nice..with dumplings.....expect butcher would get it ..but dont see it much today..few small bone bits......chicken capon before turkey became.....gdad..his yrs from 1890s to 1940s.....would catch a wild brown rabbit..for the pot...southall....veg out of the garden his neat rows annually grown...

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Feb-2013
    I remember the Horse meat shop Tom over the Green in the late thirties. Although I lived the other side of the Green, we were always over there when we walked to the Manor House to see what was going on. I remember the carcasses hanging up outside the shop with the yellow fat very prominent. It always made me shudder.As for the rabbits, I can remember seeing my mum skinning one while I sat and wat... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2013
    was it not...meat from..australia new zealand argentina..scotland etc...for all years....war ration.less of everything......then...eec getting..stronger control and now french polish custom...of many yrs..they..use horse......so factories sell to uk.or via ireland...said may be able to have them with law..as ..deceit not say horse on pack.imply beef..dishonest.deceit..

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 8-Feb-2013
    I remember zig zag queues outside the shop. which decreased as meat got more plentyful,the sign outside said it was for human consumption. The owner was Bill Clegg who lived in Wentworth road.My father used to train his greyhounds to race at Southall and Harlington race tracks. All the dogs were fed horse meat.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 8-Feb-2013
    Whilst working at Walls Meat Company in Hayes 1976 I saw mutton being added to beef sausages.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 8-Feb-2013
    I remember the horse meat shop in The Green too. I'm sure my Mum never bought anything there, but a lot of people must have done so. We also had rabbit back then, and I've even bought it when we were first married and made a nice casserole with it.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2013
    you dont hear of it so much....other towns.....probably southall.....because...such long history of the horse mkt..had contacts..from there...history goes back..so many yr cattle .etc.southall mkt animals.2nd only to london..southall with the uxbridge rd there...and old white hart pub opposite...forecourt...

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2013
    you dont hear of it so much....other towns.....probably southall.....because...such long history of the horse mkt..had contacts..from there...history goes back..so many yr cattle .etc.southall mkt animals.2nd only to london..southall with the uxbridge rd there...and old white hart pub opposite...forecourt...

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 9-Feb-2013
    My Grandmother would often cook Rabbit stew for me & I loved it. I still cook it but these days I use this recipe :-

    BUNNY STEW
    1 rabbit (about 1.8kg)
    3 tablespoons plain flour seasoned with salt & pepper, 1 tablespoon olive oil 1 onion, chopped
    4 cloves garlic squashed, 2 rashers of bacon, rind removed, chopped into ro... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Feb-2013
    thats nice fred..1960s my aunt was getting...pieces prepared rabbit from butcher..for stew was nice.....and hearts.lamb...she used to stuff..sage onion and bake....always hot and roast dinner every night..after..travelling home..all out..day.....today they say..news...europe..recession....making profit cost cutting......these processed..foods pack..meat....horse costs less than beef..factories fr... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Feb-2013
    they would prefer to buy kidney seperate..chop up butcher beef,steak..and fresh steak kidney pie...hot dinner every night..main enjoy of day after long bus or tube train journey or walk home..all weathers...money went on rent and good food...not silly luxuries....board 54 25 24...our photos new..with sainsbury.old..marble tops..wires cut cheese wood pat butter.....today fresh meat counter supermkt... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Feb-2013
    TODAYS GAZETTE.....photo gazette 1935 sat oct 13,,,amazing scenes...10000 crowd boys climbed trees///top of coffee house next to victory pub..and the roof fell in.....gracie fields opened new art deco dominion cinema cafe ballroom.....lots photos our flickr boards......len said he was 10 yrs old down there....gracie had to escape in police van..avoid crowd..police hat got knocked off...robeson was... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 9-Feb-2013
    Do you mean the Ealing Gazette, Yvonne? If so which part? I am not a regular reader of it online and perhaps you can post the exact link to the photos please.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Feb-2013
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/69365331@N08/

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/45101643@N04/

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/89207... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Feb-2013
    ealing gazette...then they have southall.hayes.greenford.editions..but similar in each....southall feb 8 2013.photos dominion..and featherstone hall huge gentry mansion hse was on site before..became asylum..and photo of saturday amazing scenes.dominion opening from archive 1935..len was there as a kid..1935..10000 crowd..200 tiles came off by victory pub roof nobody injured....retro every week yr... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Feb-2013
    photo on that nice carpet sweep staircase in dominion.of gracie and 1935 partner..he looks the capri one or the one beore..art deco..interiors on our boards..many enjoy..for nearly 4 yrs now..loads of viewings..nice comments there by southallians of southall green..mondat 14 oct.evening in sat 19th gazette.streets blocked people fainted...some of my family would have gone..getting married that yr ... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 10-Feb-2013
    I used to go to ABC Saturday morning club had lots of fun. When we got older we became Monitors & were allowed to go to pics for free one day a week when U films were on got front row seats in the Balcony felt very Grand. Remember going to afternoon tea on one of my early courting days. Remember the ice cream girls selling small boxes of ice cream chocs not for long though anyone else remember this.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Feb-2013
    I remember going to the Dominion with dad to see the Dam Busters i think 1955/56

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Feb-2013
    yes gazette talks of abc there....ron brewer donkey..took kids there....fabulous carpet .stairs deco..interiors...lyons maid icecream...dambusters good film brits made the best......all on tv.so many yrs has helped......in google use as index..for flickr photos..local areas..southall greenford ealing hayes hanwell..etc.northhyde heston...in google 282 bus at old covered mkt greenford windmill lane... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 11-Feb-2013
    Yes Sandy, i was a A B C monitor to,Felt very cocky wearing my monitors badge.the Dominion was a plush cinema, with its long settees in the foyer and all carpeted. and a distintive smell(wish we had a spell checker) We were suppose to keep the rest of the kids in order,but they really needed someone to keep us in order. Do i know you Sandy? I lived top of Regina Rd, opposite the green near Old Oak... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 11-Feb-2013
    Dont remember Ron Brewer going to the Dominion. He seemed to always be in the TheGem.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Feb-2013
    thanks bob..the gem..older cinema just along a bit...such shame..they have kept that listed architecture..deco..into.flats now.was nightclub.same white facade....but..the photos our board of beautiful dominion..elabourate doors..thick carpet..ballroom to left...tower with deco 20s 30s..curved...fronts...pulled it all down..open..gate brick entrance now into...a centre...used for ..all things....ne... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Feb-2013
    the odeon cinema uxbridge rd..was full saturday mornings...back and front rows of kids..2 films..cartoons..sweet shop..next to entrance stairs into.cinema..lads sneaked in sides free....boo.calls if film broke...screen went up.words of.sing song..clementine..song...etc..ice cream usherettes in uniform with torch....ha went to see les mis..last month..and couple of the audience came in with their ... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 11-Feb-2013
    Watching the goodies and the baddies. Hooray ------Booo. P S. Found spell checker

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Feb-2013
    I also loved the Odeon on Saturday mornings. I used to take my brother who was five years younger than me. As soon as he was old enough, he went with his friends. I remember the kids standing on the seats and rocking bakwards and forwards before the film started. The bit I always remembered was when the Baddies were creeping up on the Goodies, and someone would shout out "Look out Mister". Wonderf... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Feb-2013
    I think rabbit meat was never rationed as Governments wanted to reduce rabbit population due to them eating our food crops in wartime. . . After the war, people didn't want to eat rabbit so they "had to" introduce myxamatosis to try and keep rabbit numbers under control.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Feb-2013
    Pauline-I also used to go to the Odeon on Saturday mornings. There used to be an Odeon song-"Every Saturday morning, where do er go,
    getting into mischief Oh dear no etc."

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by thompson (Member 10241148) on 11-Feb-2013
    I can say the only time I may have eaten horse meat knowingly was in a "beef burger" in Brussels, as it was strong tasting.
    Reading these memories of other meats, I have not had the following for years. Tripe and Onions with Mash and Butterbeans, Stuffed Lamb Hearts, Breast of Lamb, Rabbit, Skirt and Bacon Badger.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Feb-2013
    Michael

    There was a song at the Granada Greenford too.

    "We're the Greenford Grenadiers"

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Feb-2013
    You are right Michael about the song at the Odeon. I will now give you the whole song:
    We come along on Saturday morning
    Greeting everybody with a smile
    We come along on Saturday morning
    Knowing it's well worth while
    Every Saturday morning where... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Feb-2013
    gt song......odeon uxbridge rd they put the curtain board up we had to sing the westernsongs..could girls sing louder than boys..or each side..sing..1937 gracie fields opened granada and their famous organ.1935 she opened dominion,,,mr thompson...yes my aunt born 1914...talked of tripe onion.s......jellied eels...brain..cooked....old days......

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Feb-2013
    Like you Thompson, I haven't eaten these foods for years - Tripe & Onions (which my dear old mother-in-law used to make) Stuffed Sheeps Hearts, Stuffed Breast of Lamb, Steak & Kidney Pudding, Brawn which I used to make from half a Pig's head, and Pigs' Trotters. To think we used to fight over these Trotters when we were kids! As Dell Boy would say "Lovely Jubbly".

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Feb-2013
    sunday tea at west ave 1950s and before...was cold meat bread butter....braun...from.pig sheep.head..ox tongue..trotters and jelly yes...cranford lane was piggery yrs behind the old rural workers cottages..mine..had every bit of pig..at hard times.....breakfast bacon..blood black pudding and mushrooms from over brookside by spikes bridge...all the different..sea food from.van outside northcote pub... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 11-Feb-2013
    High Bob don't think I know you lived in Osterley Park Rd. The ABC song was
    We are the boys & girls well known as the Minors of the ABC
    & Every Saturday all line up to see the films we love & Shout aloud with Glee.
    We love to Laugh and have a sing song
    such a happy crowd are weeee
    Were all pals together were Minors of the ABC.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Feb-2013
    Wasn't the Greenford Grenadiers sung to the tune of The British Grenadiers?

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 12-Feb-2013
    I used to go to Saturday Morning Pictures at the Odeon with my brothers - they sat with the rough lot! The song that stays in my mind is Clementine whose feet "were number 9, herring boxes without soxes, sandals were for Clementine".

    I'm feeling hungry reading about all the various meats we used to eat. I never got to like rabbit though, never tried trotters but have eaten, and enjoyed, most ot... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 12-Feb-2013
    Just remembered that my father loved tripe & onions, soft cod roes on toast (yuk!), kippers and bloaters - both parents loved brawn made from half a pig's head. I loved kippers but they don't seem to have much to eat on them, nor taste the same, these days.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Feb-2013
    Oh! I'd forgotten all about the Cods Roes on toast Janice. I loved them. Never liked Lambs Liver, we always had Pigs Liver. As for Kippers, I agree with you that they're not the same now. The best ones we ever had was when we went on a coach tour to Scotland. Their kippers tasted like the ones we used to get years ago. I'd forgotten my mum used to make a suet roll with bacon and stuffing in. It wa... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Feb-2013
    war comes and just after war....and the old..foods....go out of fashion......odeon uxbridge rd...the curain huge board had the words go up for song...clementine etc...just shows how many,,decades of kids..enjoyed interlude..half time...singing...cartoons were great......how long were we there.....10 am to 12 pm..cant remember..tanner to go in..tanner for sweets..my aunt was usherette ..she gave me... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Feb-2013
    Talking about fish has remnded me when I went to stay with my aunt in Acton during the war after leaving the Scarlet Fever hospital, as we used to call it. She dished up a breakfast of Sprats one day, which I'd never had before, and while she was out in the kitchen, I ate the lot, heads, tails, everything. The aunts never let me forget it! My uncle turned up at the hospital in his taxi, as he was ... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Feb-2013
    Mum used to make suet pudding with bacon i think it was boiled in a cloth

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Feb-2013
    Yes, Denis you're right. It was boiled in a cloth, like the jam roly poly, the spotted dick and the treacle pudding. The steak and kidney pudding was always cooked in a basin. I still cooked it until the sixties. I think a lot of us, like me, gave it up because of the suet putting on weight. Having said that I still cook low fat suet dumplings in my casseroles.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Feb-2013
    Yes Fred

    It was the same marching song with the same wordsl think but "Greenford" replaced "British". . I don't know why Saturday morning pictures suddenly went out of favour so quickly. In 1954 everbody went and just 5 years later they were finished

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Feb-2013
    keep eye on the water in the pan..steam..away..and room to grabe the basin out..or put a strap around it.....we went to ideal home..1970..saw demonstration..pressure cooker....bought them ever since....everything cooks gt..puddings..earls court closes soo..to become flats....olympia still there.....treacle pudding...always seemed in cupbaord decades.lyle tate.golden.tin.......3rd series..being wor... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Feb-2013
    Yes, Prestige Pressure Cookers. I've had them all my married life. Wonderful time savers. I changed my Aluminium one for a Stainless Steel one years ago. All Christmas Puddings done in them, but not now though with the family all gone. I loved cooking raw Beetroots in them, but now you can buy them already cooked in packs, but not in vinegar.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Feb-2013
    yes stainless ones.tonys dad grew loads of beet..locally...his mum cooking them in kitchen....those fridge freezers came in and she froze loads of his dads.garden grown veg..but in shed..homemade wine..edler berry etc..parsnip..too much sugar..wow explosion once..ha...

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Feb-2013
    I think the Saturday morning pictures continued a bit after 1959 Keith because I was only born in 1950 and certainly was going to pictures until at least 1962 & my brother who was 4 years younger went after that but I agree that it was a shame they disappeared.

    Pauline, have you ever tried roasted beetroots? They are great as part of a roast dinner. As to kippers it is very rare to see them in ... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Feb-2013
    Fred - No, I can't say I have ever tasted roasted beetroots. Will have to try it one day.
    I'm sorry your Auntie Queenie has died, but at least you have some nice memories of her.I'm sure you're right about the Saturday morning pictures though. The best fish breakfast I ever ate in this country was when we were holidaying in Mevagissey many years ago, and the Mackerel came in straight off the boat... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Feb-2013
    I love Mevagissey & have done ever since we went on a family holiday to stay on a farm in St Austell in about 1961 I suppose. I've been back a few times & it still has so much charm.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Feb-2013
    the numbers of us who have been mevagis..mousehole..st austell..all cornwall is amazing..because so gt....new domes at staustell.greenhouse effect.....they keep having beet as vegeable now....sausage mash and side of hot beetroot....google has loads people using sat morn pictures..going on lots of years..60s etc...

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by thompson (Member 10241148) on 13-Feb-2013
    With all this current scare regarding prepared meals, perhaps we can get back to the good old ways of cooking from scratch at home.

    As a bakery technologist it saddens me that even in supermarkets a lot of the speciality breads are brought in frozen and baked on site. Only some lines are made from scratch instore.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 13-Feb-2013
    Mentioning Fever Hospital I remember having scarlet Fever at age of six. Was sent to Hillingdon Fever Hospital (St. Johns) opposite RAF Uxbridge for six weeks. I hated it not allowed to touch Mum & Dad could only speak through window very frightening at that age did not understand what was going on. They thought I had contracted Polio as ther was a young boy in there with it but turned out to be C... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
    TAKE CARE SHINGLES...MY AUNT HAD IT..BEST WISHES..interesting to know it was opposite raf,,,,,,,hillingdon church redlion pub village uxbridge rd...the big hospital..hillingdon hospital..down the lane there......not much room there now opposite raf.....huge roundabout...huge civic centre st andrews church......so the hospital fever ..would have gone....uxbridge could not cope isolation they built.... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Feb-2013
    Sorry to hear about your shingles Sandy. I have had it, but not so long as you, and not in my leg.Hope it gets better soon. I remember all of our bedclothes being fumigated when we all went into the Scarlet Fever hospital. I was in the same ward as my baby brother, and I used to get him out of his cot and cuddle him till he went to sleep. The second time I went in with suspected diphtheria, but it... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Feb-2013
    I was in Southall Isolation hospital with Scarlet Fever at the time of the 1938 Munich Crisis. They sandbagged the windows then. I also recall parents trying to talk to me through the windows.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
    amazing articles in google
    http://www.ruislip.co.uk/diphtheria/index.htm
    fever hospital st john....parents at windows...and so much..there..memories...1935 and years....hillingdon church tall tower uxbridge rd st john baptist..8 bells......

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Feb-2013
    FRED - When you were holidaying at Mevagissey, do you remember the Fishermen bringing in Sharks they had caught to the Harbour and hanging them up and weighing them. It was quite an occasion for the visitors, as a bell was rung several times and everyone would congregate as they knew what it was. I seem to remember there was a chart on the wall somewhere where the weight of the sharks was recorded... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Feb-2013
    Fred

    Cannotbe sure but l do think Granada Greenford Saturday morning pics closed before some of the other local cinemas as they were doing other stuff on the site (was it wrestling? and 10 pin bowling?) in the early 60s as they developed that arcade along that bit of the Greenford Road. I think the Playhouse had closed even a year or so before that. Does anyone remember what the cinema in ... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
    photo..curzon cinema..hanwell our flickr board54....one of the older cinemas..that rd...was called..the grand before........1960s..became warehouse...1967 ealing council in google says becoming flats...off the broadway..same rd had school dentist..............acton..had big corner cinema..uxbridge rd.....used to see,,,,,the high streets from the top of uxbridge rd bus....west ealing..by lido cinem... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 13-Feb-2013
    Working for the bakery machine company that supplied all the Tescos stores with the automated machines to produce instore bread. We had huge problems to make the machines produce the bread to Tescos recipe. We said Tescos were trying to make water stand up.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Feb-2013
    Yes, I remember the old cinema in Hanwell was a cigarette wholesalers warehouse for very many years. I THINK their name was "P. Panto & Co.". Greenford cinemas closed next (Playhouse, then Granada), then the Southall ones

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
    yes the 60s photo of it.....says panto...posters over it players...no 6.....benson hedges.........king size.......bollywood kept southall going in 1990 ish...ealing broadway..multiscreen....being ..rebuilt now to new screens.....uxbridge odeon....moved from.old high st..into chimes....modern esculators..screens odeon uxbridge..shop mall......james bond ..50th yr...got all the awards...london..ofte... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Feb-2013
    Thanks Yvonne > > > I do have problems getting flikr

    Please could you let me know exactly how I find that flikr board with Hanwell photos as I've never seen this. I am not very good at computers so need easy instructions. Ta.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
    very often using google..as index..is quick..easy.....type curzon cinema.hanwell....keep trying index.entries...flickr southall photostream hanwell......hanwell is on most of the 54 boards...all areas....each board..all yrs...over the last 4 yrs added......50% go..in march....they gave free extra space...for 3 mths only..................www.flickr.com........southallboard54@yahoo.co.uk.....each nu... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Feb-2013
    Whatever I try, I still end up with board 48, but that was interesting enough
    One photo was very old map and it showed something l mentioned on here about a year ago > >"Old ROAD" extended Trumpers Way Hanwell across the canal to Osterley Park before the railway was built. Old road goes straight to park wall then dead ended, but the you see road other side of park going to Cranford. This is w... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
    WAS PLEASED WITH THAT MAP...JUST FINISHED .TOP OF MY TREE.GENEOLOGY....CHURCH RECORDS THEY WERE 1780 ONWARDS NORWOOD GREEN....LABOURERS......AND .MY GOODNESS THEY MOVED ABOUT...JOBS..DWELLINGS..AS MOST DID...MARRIED ST MARY EALING.....THE SHORT CUT FOR WORKERS BACK..WOULD BE ACROSS TO BOSTON MANOR...TRUMPERS WAY..ACROSS CANAL..TO...EDGE OSTERLEY...INTO.NORWOOD GREEN....OTHERS.WERE WORKING...THROUG... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Feb-2013
    Keith -When I tapped into "Curzon Cinema Hanwell" it gives a wonderful picture of the Curzon Hanwell, Cherington road and Church road (initially referred to as broadway initially called Grand Cinema, then it gives all the dates when it opened and closed, ending with "closed 1955 became a warehouse". Hope this helps you.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Feb-2013
    just parker bread shop gone on board54...black vitrolite chrome shopfront..one at hanwell....as we had southall.maps going all yrs...1950s 30s ..back to rocques..down barn etc...subjects spoken of over.the last 4 yrs..photos there to cover.....brentford site in google several yrs now....families..each decade..going back...docks canal....high st..etc...my norwood green...went age 20..canal..to bren... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
    fred.....................you asked.........today bbc news...isolated..community lancashire..just dug..cabled up their own broadband..40km or something fibre optic cable......the dial registered fastest.possible...connected digital cable.... on line now chat to relatives abroad..volunteers..farmers wife retired.was IT manager at local school...did it themselves..fed up with waiting....

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Feb-2013
    Pauline >still no luck. I obviously have a different search engine, and so I've still not seen board 54

    But it did come up with another Flikr board photo that I've never seen > > it is of 3 Bridges, and there a train pulling wagons of LYONS TEA up from Brentford Docks, a barge thay is loaded with Lyons Tea going over the train, and over all this, three steam lorries are loaded with Lyons Tea h... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Feb-2013
    THOMPSON - You're right about the bread baked in store nowadays. Years ago, I lived in Langley, and there was a fantastic bakers shop called Rhymes who baked his own bread. When I had visitors from abroad I gave them some of this bread, and they couldn't eat enough of it. They said they couldn't get bread like this in their country. When I moved out of Langley and bought bread at the Supermarkets ... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
    yes lovely photo 3 bridges lyons....curzon tudor cinema on board48 now...and parkers...bread shop....so many of us said was gt.....54 different boards..so many good photos...amazing...such interest and nostalgia etc..collection..of 4yrs....

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Feb-2013
    Keith - This is from Google under "Curzon Cinema Hanwell"

    Cherington road and Church road (later referred to as broadway) initially called Grand Cinema. Rebuilt 1933 802 seats. Then closed 26th January 1946. Re-opened 28th March 1946 as Curzon. Then became the Tudor in 1951. (proprietors Essay Surburban Cinemas) Now with 866 seats. Closed in 1955 playing "the constant husband and "the black rid... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
    thats lovely...rex harrison film..closed on..1911 think built...the old ones..like walpole ealing broadway 1911/12....gem southall green 1911yrs......the more modern 1930s ones..built.came alive........then..modern times..we have the multiscreen..ones....

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
    thought saw kids leaflet ...when at odeon..last month.....google has it...£1.kids.and one adult free.mum or dad...all weekends...and all during school holidays.....kids cinema........new cinemas built during last 10 yrs and more...very luxurious clean..comfortable..gt screen..seats..carpet..and wheel chair section....and ..oscar film.s...the best ones are wonderful...high standard......cost milli... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Feb-2013
    Keith, I hope this helps. When I want to view a different board, I log out of both flickr & Yahoo and then log in to the next board I want to view e.g. southallboard50 using the appropriate passwords.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Feb-2013
    Oh & I should add that once at a particular board
    you should make a shortcut to it so you can get to it easily next time.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Feb-2013
    Thank you all

    I didn't know l had to log in via Yahoo > nobody said! But I've seen the photos now and Wow!, what memories they brought back. I was really Hanwell and Greenford, not Southall, but the nostalgia was incredible. I've lived in west Sussex nearly 40 years now, but seeing those pictures has made me think of going back. I have no affiliation with Sussex any more, and although... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
    lots hanwell board48...etc...yes ..log out log in..different user click...and if you have the list of boards on your memory....but click yes want to keep.....then scroll click another board...4 yrs of 54...200 each board photos maps items etc......gift from flickr..extras for 3 mths only...so...they go ...march...50%..will...go ..save your favourites your own memory interests....keep for always...... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Feb-2013
    It was good to see Hanwell cinema photo at last

    I only ever remember it as the warehouse for P. PANTO & Co., a company that no longer exists today. Never saw anyone ever go in or out of that place, seemed very odd as if there was nobody there.
    Was told that when it was open it was known as the 'flea-pit' in Hanwell and one rumour we kids had heard was that it had been shut down because of fleas!!

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Feb-2013
    says shut 1955 of open 1911....they all of that age.early electric cinemas theatres...hear were known as flea pit..walpole ealing broadway and gem southall.green...of same age ..know by many most as flea pit...good that the new 1936/7 opened..many places....

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Feb-2013
    Keith i think the Gem on the Green Southall was know as the bug hutch.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Feb-2013
    barry of lifelong hayes.....member here said of couple very old hayes cinemas.....nickname flea pit........4 yrs closed uxbridge rd cinema ealing broadway.....xmas changed to another builder and ...it seems to be started now...large area going back to walpole park..they want cinema restaurant complex..linked..to...and to ealing film studios..heritage...dr who photos our board filmed ealing broadwa... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Feb-2013
    I've now had a good look at a lot of the photos

    Being that I moved to Sussex in 1976, there has been a lot of info and knowledge to absorb. There are also a lot of photos of the 1976 era, so some of those photos are of places exactly as I last saw them. I am glad there is evidence of what l said about Trumpers Way, and one of the Trumpers Crossing station signs actually says "for Osterley P... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Feb-2013
    down barn..maps..etc..on boards....drove rd..yes feel sure my nans family..going back to 1780 norwood green.....used whole area ealingrd..mkt gardens..fruit etc..south ealing areas....branches of the tree are also..ealing rd..old brentford......across to norwood green........then 1850s..fern lane...across to harmondsworth.........seeing church image pages amazed to see how they .treked..mud paths.... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Feb-2013
    When I was reading some more of Mr R.J.Mead's book "Growing up with Southall from 1904" I came across this piece of his writing during the first WW1 - August 1918, and I thought of you Keith.

    "There was no law enforcing a black-out, and no air-raid shelters. One Saturday evening I had been with my brother to the "Grand" Cinema, Hanwell, and just as we came out about 10.30 the air-raid alarm sou... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Feb-2013
    Thank you

    I don't know much about WW1 but am aware of a lot going on WWII. There was a anti-aircraft gun based on top Horsenden Hill I think. Perivale was important and there were houses (one occupied by a german refugee) bombed north Hanwell near Cuckoo Schools, as railway targetted near Castlebar rather than Hanwell viaduct which would have been more obvious target. Spy was seen sending ... more >>

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Feb-2013
    Thanks for that Keith. Most interesting.

  • Re: Horse Meat Shop The Green Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Feb-2013
    It is forgotten now that railway through Castlebar was of vital strategic importance during WWII as it was link to many different regions. Until 1963 was FAR more important as a freight route than for passengers as line runs beyond Greenford to Wycombe, Banbury and the midlands, plus there was a ling to the Great Central via Woodford Halse. In the 50s as a boy l remember long freight trains ... more >>

 
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Southall and the UK by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 2-Feb-2013
Hi all check this website out I found it very interesting you have to register www.britainfromabove.org.uk   
  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2013
    yes noticed it...over last months.......you see aec..ironbridge......greenford rd....1928...yrs....hayes factories..from above.....rail canal....loads .that site....1928..northolt...ponyrace track..there......areial over southall park..1928 1930.....

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 2-Feb-2013
    I have put quite a few blue flags on there but there's room for a lot more

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2013
    LYONS TEA ETC OF GREENFORD..NEAR CANAL...is clear there...1928 before lot of greenford and high st got built..empty areas there.........we have 1930s photos building western ave on our flickr.....1928...sure yeading brookside was there...canal....bulls bridge..aerial photos...site.....nestle......heston...there...1928 1930...begin..airport..areas....1928 brentford should be interesting thames whar... more >>

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 2-Feb-2013
    Have you seen latest photos of gasometer and Dudley road

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2013
    thankyou...they must have put those on in last few weeks......amazing gas holder...looking right down on top of it aerial 1931...mike went up there with his parent those early yrs 6 old pence...think the money went...to the new southall norwood hospital..by manor park.......maypole there..rubastic...heston gypsy moth.....chiswick works buses ..think thats where they queued up stores to get their u... more >>

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2013
    MAYPOLE THERE.tall thin chimney around 1930 yrs..aerial.....my cousin dad worked there 40 yrs...his uncle aec ..lifetime..draughtsman..lived allendale.........where did your dad work......heston there gypsy moth...................uxbridge high st...uxbridge rd hayes hillingdon....1928/30...northolt western ave..aladdin building..made lamps...became bq..now furniture shop...

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 3-Feb-2013
    Many thanks for the web address of Britain from the Air. It is really extremely interesting to see the 1920 green field where my childhood home in Brent Road was built in 1934. I think that I have a press cutting somewhere reporting the building of the gas holder. My father's proud boast was that he jumped from the top of the gas holder without any parachute or safety line. He would then reveal th... more >>

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2013
    jump off..thats good...did he say..some went up for 6 old pence......r t warren built some of the 20s 30s 40s houses...wimpey built on some of the green fields greenford..in aerial...1928 1930s.......brent rd..and canal...clear.....rail..factories..there of 1928 1930....

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Feb-2013
    country file is lovely bbc.programme...new terminal 2 heathrow...old one replaced...richmond park..trees......and lorries bringing..wood chip..to heathrow..20per cent of the electric.for heating.....lovely modern terminal 2.....hillingdon..borough..electoral.roll.vote.about.3 rd runway.expansion.. mar 2013

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2013
    2.45 TODAY....DENIS....OSTERLEY PK..HOME..GUARD....RE=INACTMENT..DAYS THEY HAVE...BBC2..TV..........JUST FOUND...NEW OLD PHOTO IRON BRIDGE SOUTHALL..RURAL BOTH SIDES..OLD UXBRIDGE RD..NEVER SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE..board50..flickr..reel history...films..there on tv..osterley pk....training films..

  • Re: Southall and the UK by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Feb-2013
    Thanks Yvonne shame was out sorry to have missed it, trying to get dads Home Guard record but it seems all H/G records still held by the M.O.D not Kew

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2013
    THE LONDON MIDDX ARCHIVE MIGHT HELP..YOU...at 40 northampton row...north of st pauls...off farringdon station.....they have so much of middx ..there.......lma.................he had bbc van at steps..osterley..house...cinema film in side......dozen vets there........borough hunslow do..reinactment days there....home guard..uniforms ..weapons etc..........1912 ...2 photos iron bridge board50......g... more >>

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2013
    bound to be on iplayer computer....reel history of britain..bbc2..ww2 episode......got gdad for 1st time...nov 2012...mt aunts dad..nan would love to have seen it...too.late....free ancestry week..1st war records...some with burnt singe...the ..store was by blyth rd hayes got bombed huge fire...2nd war....lots papers on gdad ..so pleased..read ok....enlist from northhyde..the common..southall..wif... more >>

  • Re: Southall and the UK by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Feb-2013
    Thanks will try that, says MOD records on very few personnel and little info on the records there are

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Feb-2013
    in google.................says national archive kew....has started to digitalise...home guard.......durham done 40000.......there are 4.5 million....1940 to 1945..served....cant believe ..got gdad on ancestry was free week nov......about half dozen pages.....he walked..5 mins to king st..office there....then army as most local..went hounslow barracks fuselliers......1st war....wish could have show... more >>

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 5-Feb-2013
    Thank you for the information about the Middlesex Regiment. I have six months of diary for the second battle of Ypres that was written by my grandfather in the trenches there. I would like to see the Middlesex Regimental diary for that time to tie up some information. I have been able to obtain a number of correct spellings for place names from the online Australian WW1 website. There is also some... more >>

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2013
    the training..high wall is still at osterley...have put photos on our board and denis....his visit he put photos......over back osterley field by windmill lane opposite hare hounds pub......back path in....to back of lake..horses there......film .in google of reinactments...several yrs done there.....dont think of bikes...open top buses rail..march .etc....so many excellent tv documentaries yes sa... more >>

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2013
    commonwealth war graves...in google...email or letter...they send you free photos..of ..cemetery...name...etc...memorial..1st war..france dept..take photo for you....post to you...we have nice collection of nans brother.got.7 more yrs ago.........heston church stone carved by alter their names..and in road soldier statue..memorial annual service his name carvedthere....family.3 generations..and mo... more >>

  • Re: Southall and the UK by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2013
    mr meads book....says harry ...lived..near snells..ewers farm...off dormers wells lane...119 dormers lane lived..twyman..so many yrs...local social history society.......lovely detached large houses dormers lane....flickr photostream 24...has collection..illustrations by ..harry....his photo....allotments...by snells farm.....then lane to...greenford rd bunny park...mill pond..woods stream....scho... more >>

  • Re: Southall and the UK by thompson (Member 10241148) on 28-May-2013
    Reading the Daily Telegraph at the weekend and noticed Frair House, Norwood Green on the market for £1.9 million

    I knew Haley Mills lived there with the actor Lawson who is now married to Twiggy. Haley sold it to the comedian / actress Tracy Ultman. Did not know that the son of Selfidges founder also lived there.

    You just keep on learning.

 
Rabbits, Rabbits, Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits,White Rabbits by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Feb-2013
Rabbits, Rabbits, Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits. I still find myself saying this aloud before I speak to anyone first thing in the morning on the first day of the month. I remember my mother telling us all about this when we lived in Northcote Avenue. It was supposed to bring us good luck, and my goodness we needed it in those days. I know I told my children, but I doubt if ... more >>   
  • Re: Rabbits, Rabbits, Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits,White Rabbits by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
    little rabbit..model held always says lucky charm........pinch punch 1st of the month.......31..1..13....was 2013..backwards forwards...dogs or rabbits pets..last night programme..gt by clunes on dogs...helping..sense smell.sight..hearing..wonderful programme....pack love of theirs..human and lamb..they see as their family.....our friend does dogs for hearing...then the wonderful ones for blind...etc..

  • Re: Rabbits, Rabbits, Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits,White Rabbits by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 1-Feb-2013
    Or: a pinch and a kick for being so quick!

  • Re: Rabbits, Rabbits, Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits,White Rabbits by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
    pinch punch..no returns.....says say rabbit 3 times..before speaking..am...goes back 1400s...white witch..devon...they saw rabbit as witch....says..say hare 3 times..when go to bed then rabbit 3 times..when wake up..good luck..before mth ends......in print..in the 1900...folklore............rabbits foot...actors stroke one before go on stage....

 
New Year Greetings by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 18-Jan-2013
January brings the snow, makes our face and fingers glow! Here in WsM was have getting on for 3 inches of the white stuff and still falling. Still, it's not too late to wish you all a Happy and Healthy New Year is it? Hopefully, we'll all have many more interesting memories and subjects to write about tbroughout the year.   
  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2013
    yes keep memories nostalgia..great interests coming....we see your weston..on tv...all the time take care ice......all over country..now....pretty at window but wind chill factor...keep warm...happy new yr all......kids have fun...off school or such....photos spikes bridge pk..1970s on our boards and 60s canal frozen on our flickr..photos...

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Jan-2013
    It's been very hard feeding all the masses of birds all waiting in the trees, etc yesterday. As fast as I cleared spaces in the snow to put the food down, the snow was covering it all up again. Today, is easier, as there is no snow falling. However, the Fat Balls in the container were all frozen hard, so the birds couldn't peck them. So crunched up fat balls on the ground today.There were countles... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jan-2013
    you take care yourself my dear..not too much out in it...cant see too bad ice worry yet..but never know....oh..yes cheese..robins..love..gt favourite...2pm fri...one redwing......once yr only...when snow on branches..wild dog rose goes up red hips....says come from scandinavia.....may be sunday monday not too.bad..can never tell......next weekend is rspb survey..online etc...best wishes everybody..this cold..

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jan-2013
    1963 big freeze cliff michelmore archive...today 5.30 bbc2 tv..photos our board irin bridge..spikes pk etc..greenford motorbike museum snow yesterday...midwife starts tommorow tv..david niven//a favourite as is parky..wonderful interviews tv today..flynn...suet beef.atora..in kitchen..for dumplings..gt now..hope fluffy...tony just spotted..woodpecker down trunk tree red head greeny front...once tw... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 19-Jan-2013
    I NEVER throw food away. Birds cannot read sell-by dates. Just put out some Christmas brandy butter, and all eaten by birds within minutes. They are starving and need everything swept from the food table as well as out of date stuff from the cupboard.

    Rescued a 2005 Christmas pudding from a house clearance last weekend, Warmed it up for 20 secs in the microwave, chopped it up, and it w... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jan-2013
    well done...bbc 2 film of big freeze 1963 said gt many birds creatures died ..but recovered numbers later..iplayer on computer also...freeze brentford to birmingham.canal..photography..boxing day to march..1947 and 1940 also...blizzards..richmond pk dear ..more than 3 times extra food put out....high black zip boots came in ..and ..black thick..tights.....thick long scarf...no slacks then..hard bu... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Jan-2013
    Good for you Keith i never throw food away if buy it & dont like it i eat it or put it out for the birds who usually eat it

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jan-2013
    lovely bbc..country file.....snow whipsnade park..or near swindon cotswold zoo park......the 30 yr old elephants..trunk scoop up snow and eat it..ha...lovely..animals of hot asia india..but hardy used to cold nights of native.....1963 bbc film yesterday tv..sheep died.big freeze..richmond pk..they gave deer triple extra feed.......local photos our boards 48..etc..flickr...red squirrel..etc lovely.... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2013
    usual wren many yrs now..call it old round brown penny...small always for insects up at window pots.......so knocked off snow let him get at them...ha..pair robins.blackbird still ok..seagulls.early today.....sunday..northala..up from top lady marg rd.by western ave...hills from..old wembley stadium.demolished .stuff ..made high hills..photo s..sunday .board 50..views allenby water tower etc.lots ... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Jan-2013
    wren was on old farthings, not on pennies > >
    Farthings last made 1956 and demonetised 1960. After that prices went up much faster
    Always used to be elevenpence farthing for a loaf as bread prices were controlled well into early 1950s

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 21-Jan-2013
    Yes The wren was on the farthing. Four farthings to the old penny. Two halfpennies to the penny.
    Good picture of farthing on Are you an old face from Southall.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Jan-2013
    By 1960 Farthings cost more to make due to value of metal in coin etc than face value. I think bread price was controlled by law well into mid 1950s and List's bakers Greenford & West Ealing always eleven pence farthing for large split tin loaf, but went up to 1/3d within days afterwards.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2013
    oh yes....wren on farthing..time of guinea..as well.....no..our wren visits often my pots..for insects....I always...think of him as round brown..little tip of tail...so I think of him as large old penny shape..........my goodness the yrs we used old pennies....and schools..pound shilling pence.....just call my wren the shape of round brown.big old penny..shape...ha.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2013
    they are stsrting to put memories.on.bombsight...new site.....lady cycle to gillettes.osterley windmill lane...making aircraft components..war..wearing snood over curlers..so she could go dancing hair do later..clogs..dungarees...8am to 7pm..8 to 1 on sat....if ever time to read some more......my aunts worked munitions..snoods....clever quick twist round of the scarf....

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2013
    because snow staying more days.....never known this..9 redwings..they say from scandinavia....never cut my wild dog rose out of high apple tree...in trees and on snow grass dark red hips they are eating..taken close up photos..binoculars are gt...came back twice....we have one every yr of snow...but he has told his mates....ridiculous.now.rooks magpie woodpigeon.one redwing left.at moment..watchin... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2013
    bbc tv..1950s..midwife..jenny worth biography...also.about the series..book..by heidi thomas..life times of call midwife..radio times several weeks...articles..free pull out last week..of midwife..bikes are great and ship at end of ..roads docks...les mis film..very well done pinewood..portsmouth greenwich...hope too see soon....we found the stage show was amazing....extremely good..victor hugo..1... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jan-2013
    Funny you should say that, as I usually have the odd Redwing and Fieldfare when the snow is on the ground, but this year I have had lots of Fieldfares, all interested in the apples cut in half. The trouble with them is they are so aggressive towards the resident blackbirds. Perhaps it's because they are all from the Thrush family.I am looking at one Fieldfare now, and he is adamant that no-one els... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jan-2013
    I forgot the Blackcap!

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2013
    GT FUN...MY BIG BOOK.NICE BIRDLIFE BRITAIN BY.HAYMAN AND THE RSPB FREE BOOKLETS...MY OPEN PAGE FIELDFARE...REDWING...THINK..RURAL FIELDFARE MIGHT BE MORE FORCEFUL...REDWING LESS.....SUCH CHOCK..WHEN HUGE CAME 9...THEN DOWN ON SNOW WITH RED..ROSE HIPS..PULLED OFF.....LOVELY FLUFF WHITE..STRONG THRIUSH LIKE BLACK SPECKS...TINGE ORANGE UNDER NECK...STRONG RED UNDER WING..DART ACROSS TREES...TONY WILL... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 22-Jan-2013
    Have been feeding birds always but extra this last week found some microwave pop corn in cupboard they have eaten three packs also had a thrush the first time in 30yrs Lovely. Remember the 1963 winter trolly buses were efected with ice on overhead cables. Worked in Etam at Ealing bdwy. at time finaly got into work 2hrs late Manageress gave us tea with whisky in it such a treat. We married in t... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 22-Jan-2013
    Doesd anyone know what happend to Mr & Mrs Core they had two sons Dennis & Ronny?

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2013
    happy time aug...sandy.......yes..film..of 1963 on bbc tv...few days ago...cliff michelmore..big freeze films.....1963photos snow iron bridge...frozen water local..on our flickr ..boards.etc etc1963.....freeze cold at uxbridge rd..607 bus..I did..1963..long wait...fogs ..ice..slush.....think was 1st time long zip boots....bought some..and thick black tights..came in new.....boxing day to march ..h... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2013
    mike may have known him..........ron ottewill on southall dad was toolmaker....infants beaconsfield.1932 to 1945....heston juniors went to see chamberlain wave paper 1938 from munich..heston airport....southall grammar..sciences..1938 to 1945...was head bot...went to london uni...lecturer..career.....worked for crown cork.......

  • Re: New Year Greetings by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Jan-2013
    Sandy

    The very last trolleybuses in London ran in May 1962 and these were the 657 & 667 at Brentford. The 607 went even earlier (November 1960) when it became the 207

    But then until around 1960 we seemed to get big freezes every winter -canal froze over etc - until 1963 when they seemed to stop

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
    site in google is good.....days of the week......tuesday.8 nov 1960 last 607 trolley bus...then 207.....our photo on flickr...1960 southall broadway must be summer ..before..our few photos .607 bus ended.november....sandy could be you on bus to ealing...ha.....busy day bikes..always that busy crossroads at butlers 3 horseshoes....many people on sites...ask..love to know..dates of..when trolley end... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jan-2013
    Yes Northola good for sledging, watched railways Dan Snow very interesting it would seem that times dont change much regarding a fast buck

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
    yes growth of middle class...1800s...so interesting..years..of rail..and everything...also abroad..rail..developing.years..just doing my family tree...harrow greenford botwell hayes to heston..1780 1819..1900....life...changes rail anal..etc..farms..to factories etc.....photos northala on our boards.50..54...48..47..49..20...etc....up top in snow.....enlarges my redwing.photos...but wish did movie... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 23-Jan-2013
    They have kept the number 607 on the Uxbridge Road route. Saw one only yesterday and we commented how it used to be the old trolley bus number.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
    YES WAS READING THERE IS LOTS IN GOOGLE ABOUT ....REINTRODUCE 607.......................MY CHILDHOOD MEMORY IS 607..TROLLEY.....NOSTALGIC MEMORY.........NICE PHOTOS...GIVE NICE MEMORIES...POLE...WIRES....CHUG CHUG...SOUND NOISES OF IT ALL......AMAZING STRAIGHT ROAD UXBRIDGE RD...LOADS BUSES....HUGE MAIN ROUTE ..SO MANY TRAVELLED.....STILL SO BUSY.......GREAT TOWNS ON ROUTE ..SHOPS EC...

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Jan-2013
    Mention pf the 607 Trolley Bus Brings back a few memories. Very frequent service during the day-I think there was a night service also.
    I am ancient enough to remember the trams that preceded them!

  • Re: New Year Greetings by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jan-2013
    I remember the tram lines ending at Hayes bridge, dont the night bus run up the South road seem to remember there was a bus stop for it outside the Palace

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
    such busy..bus stop outside palace 50s 60s.....we used to ..get off heston 120 there....queue there 105..etc...turn around for buses opposite there......mike......my nan gdad family west ave by north rd 1928...trams....to music hall little theatre on green at shepherds bus........took couple older kids ..1930s....seems 607 trolley started 1936......tram lines get bike..heel shoe stuck in......tony... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
    todays.gazette.......1st ever borough hillingdon.local.referendum...march 2013..207000.electoral role people...take card to library or council office..or online..or by post....threat effects so many in so many ways..small highly conjested areas ..compared to other land mass countries.........expansion heathrow runways etc.increase flights and times etc etc...people many yrs fight....2015 gov.moves... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Jan-2013
    Yvonne- I remember going to the Shepherds Bush Empire Music Hall many times. Jokes very near the knuckle for the time! The tram/trolley bus service was excellent.
    Also went on the 607 to Uxbridge with my dad on fishing expeditions.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
    max wall was a favourite.....and loads cockney london songs..etc...bbc tv took over the little theatre....60s comedians were there..etc....on the green west side....new massive modern big shop centre down east end of green now...I worked opposite entrance to shepherds bush mkt...frithvil gdns...dow to entrance park..of bbc tv centre...nearly 6 yrs.....got tube to work......used mkt lunchtimes........ more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
    wonderful...tv documentaries..TODAY.awards etc...brian cox..great.....frozen planet floods etc..creatures of the world..planet earth...lucky we are cameramen...julia bradbury there....who does so much...britain etc.....tv....everything covered so well this last 10yrs......attenborough etc...gets better all the time.....

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 23-Jan-2013
    Yes Dennis, you are right about the Night Service bus stop outside The Palace.

    In the early sixties, as youngsters we thought the introduction of Southall's first Wimpy Bar next door to The Palace was a real benefit. These days now that I am in my own 'early sixties' I would only eat a burger perhaps once a year & never one of those plastic things from restaurants such as the one I'm told is n... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
    yes fred ...greenford hotel at iron bridge ,.,many yrs now macdonalds.....was disco..place as well...before that..still structure of ..nice hotel..photos our boards.....costa coffee now at side of palace..chain..costa...palace boarded long time...bits of mkts have been indide..long time nt cinema..even though bollywood several yrs..........so much queue there think..2 bus stops..........economy.ic... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
    my oz holiday month...sydney went to drive in movie burgers etc..they sold.clint eastwood good bad ugly boomed out music......but lots ...small high street....foods ..now...leisure....lots people..very aware nice eating..relax .out today...many pubs now..refurbished.for.meals etc...celebration..venue..families friends.....great butchers or supermkt butcher..fresh meat...makes own beefburger..from ... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Jan-2013
    50 years ago, Night service bus was the 289, ran from London Bridge to Southall Brent Road, then renumbered to N89 later. Trolleybus 607 did not run all night in fact all finished by midnight, but they started v early in the morning (before 5) > > I have 1952 timetable somewhere

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 23-Jan-2013
    Does anyone remember the Embassy cafe? Opposite the Manor House,The Green.It was owned by the ex head chef at Wembley Stadium. He made the best burgers i've ever tasted. toasted crispy rolls, coated in butter. grilled beefburger large slice of tomato, large slice of fresh onion, fresh lettuce. and you could put in his own recipe sauce. What a Memory
    Also his son was Frank Maher a stuntman and dou... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2013
    couple of very nice bita...in google....frank maher/////my husband favourite...no6..i am not a number ..am free man.....we went to clough williams portmeirion...wales....kept as of the filming...huge white ball...etc......miranda midwife..of cast one the award..lumley..corrie..gt tv....today awards..at greenwich 02.....olympics praised...etc...so good...

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 24-Jan-2013
    I used the 289 night service bus a lot in 1956. all right going into London, but coming back late at night, was dodgy,and would never go upstairs,(went once it was a eye opener never seen such long cigarettes) dont know how the conductors coped at times.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2013
    4 nice sites google....frank maher..southall......boxing.......stuntman..films..for errol flynn1953 ballantrae...for burt lancater 1952 crimson pirate...m caine italian job,1969...tv.robin hood 1955 to 1959 we used to watch that at west ave.....blakes 7..persuaders.randall hopkirk 1969...saintfor roger moore...in ivanhoe...in avengers...dangerman tv...wrote 3 novels..wrote part of die hard bruce w... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2013
    ctv camera now...buses......50s after war...spivs..troubles of.night..trouble.......taking care today....drugs etc etc....unemployed muggers etc........after war and 50s..also the..ones..of trouble..crime.........those little top windows buses..smoking upstairs........2013..so good to see..far less smoking everywhere....lots buses .plate glass no windows open........new 607.bus southall photo our ... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Jan-2013
    I was having a chat with a chap at a bus museum we got talking about 50s London buses RT built Southall, RTL built Layland Lancashire a good one now brings £25000

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2013
    Although I didn't use the 289 bus, in the 1940's most of us young'uns used to smoke and go upstairs, and it got pretty nasty at times, especially in the very cold weather. I didn't like the cigar smoke either. I'm afraid it never occurred to me at that time that the conductors who didn't smoke must have inhaled almost as much smoke as the rest of us. I gave up at 30, and have never smoked since, a... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Jan-2013
    SANDY - Thank you for mentioning the whisky in tea when you were cold.I couldn't get warm this morning and I suddenly remembered what you said. My mum and dad used to have this sometimes when it was very cold, but I haven't thought about it for years. It's lovely, and really warmed me up!

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2013
    its lovely the internal..warm..as well as the..clothing and warm of the home.....hot porridge...toast soup....tried the atora suet dumplings..stew...went to the luxury cinema..saw les mis...clearer the story of the book..so well done..gt orchestra music song acting..director of kings speech...audience applaused at the end..gets awards....pinewood..sets snow rain..huge scenes....greenwich palace..p... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jan-2013
    BLUE SKY...MILD ..DOUBLE FIGURES FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW...DAFFS UP FEW INCHES.......LOOK TOWARDS SPRING....BIRD WATCH FILL IN SURVEY..ON LINE OR POST....RSPB.ANNUAL 30YRS NOW...SURVEY...this weekend....photos in the southall book by oates...saw last week....tudor rd school 1940.years spitfire fund..kids there raised money..parade by butlers.town hall photo 1940 yrs..truck..support war bonds savings ... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2013
    MILD DOUBLE FIGURES...SOME RAIN..THE HORSES OUT NOW..ON HILLS...NEW FEED PUT OUT..HILLS FIELDS LANES..FRESIAN COWS..ONLY SOME SNOW ON SOME FIELDS LEFT.....BUT..VILLAGE POND..SHALLOW WATER..COVERED ICE SLOW..MELT...DID THE RURAL RSPB.SURVEY...WROTE DOWN LOADS MALLARDS COOTS..ROOKS..GULLS..PEKIN AYLESBURY DUCK WITH 2 CROSSBREEDS.....MIDDX...ICE TOW PATH BUT CANALS NO ICE FISHERMEN..THERE.....WHOOPS ... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2013
    happy australia day......to the..southall local gone....that way....geneology scots families happy burns.......snow men of yesterday gone....sportsfield had about 30...tony said must have been huge noise of excitement making them few hours.....competition perhaps...if they had carrot.nose hats scarfs....midwife tonight..repeat was today..ships at the end of terraced houses...docks..1957 ..3 yrs je... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2013
    portillo bbc2 6.30 daily...did paddington and euston tunnel..crossrail under london..hayes southall..out to east london.....gwr rail..he was at hanwell viaduct front meadow.1837..brunel 1stt.grand structure that type victori paused the train to look at.view.....he goes to asylum.1831 ish...connelly..arrived and started more human..fresh air gardens.activity..which rest country..to copy.connelly ... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 30-Jan-2013
    Hi I am new to this site and it has brought back many memories of Southall and St Anselms.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jan-2013
    glad you like.........fred was at st anselm..primary...1950s.......photos our flickr..photostream..in google....general..local..and near..............2013 they are well on the way to.redo manor house..english heritage council huge money....portillo.on bbc2 tv was at southall station this week...and at viaduct and asylum....gwr story....

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 30-Jan-2013
    Welcome Fred, I was at St Anselms in 1945-54, Great Days, when were you there?

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 30-Jan-2013
    Correction. Last message should be addressed to Tom. Sorry.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 30-Jan-2013
    Yes, welcome from me also Tom and I'd like to know which years you were there.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 30-Jan-2013
    Bob, as you were there in 45-54 perhaps you may know my cousins Jean, Chris & Billy Fount? They are a bit older than me

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 30-Jan-2013
    Yes i know Jean we were in the same class. I know Billy, but he was younger than me. send them my best wishes.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 31-Jan-2013
    HI Fred I was at St Anselms 1950 til 1956

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 31-Jan-2013
    I'll do that Bob although Jean who lives in Hayes these days doesn't have email so I'll do it next time I send a letter or phone her.

    I was at St Anselms 1955-61. One abiding memory of the early days at the school is of Mr (Spud) Murphy walking around with a knotted handkerchief on his head during summer.

    I am a member of FriendsReunited though that site is pretty dormant these days and no ... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2013
    so agree fred...mike..denis myself..said good site like reunited..yr ago now...destroyed...wrote to them..often..they replied..that they thought it was what people wanted...and would review...to see.....but they have not done anything.......most people..must have..not agreed with silly changes.......they have ignored complaints.....must be most people not using it now......or as we said...too awkward to use.......

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jan-2013
    in google......the methodist kings hall 1916 south rd.....closing to be sold.....recent insurance...and engineer survey...say it is good sound structure....petition in google 9 days ago...signing against sale....

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 1-Feb-2013
    That would be a dreadful shame to close that wonderful building, I've been to technical drawing classes there and attended a youth club and of course on occasions seen the inner sanctum & it's just wonderful.

    Why does everything come down to cost? Is there no thought of keeping & I hope using it for the community? Very sad.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
    its in google..petition there to stop sale...architecture 1916 is good....wonder if they think of keeping facade and using it for different...buyers use.......many schools used it 1950s...concerts etc....my cousins dad played instrument and was there 1930s.....english heritage national trust many yrs now..heritage dept..of house commons..are strong many yrs now....more than most countries...we sav... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Feb-2013
    We sang in the King's Hall as part of a larger choir when I was at Southall Grammar in the 1940's. The sound was beautiful. I also went to Sunday school there for a while, but not in the huge hall. It's unimaginable for it to be sold, and more to the point for what!

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
    yes they dont say for what...2 sites in google the methodists..and rev smith..petition to .say should not close or sell......google says only been open..bits of the day for some time...says..immigrant office or something it opens certain hour of some of the days..in the past......same as red lion..greenford..exchange contracts sold...but buyers....never broadcast what doing with it.....meetings..l... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
    google.....ealing trinity trust...methodists who own it..survey.and not afford.to keep it going..closed it 31 january...and the religion services few times week english.. and hindi..will be at next door hamborough school...where the..1950s..cold war bunker is.....100 yrs..nearly..1916 opened...reel history.films..30s 40s.bbc2 daily.2.45 is good...the huge ..water..rain..broke bank of some canals m... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Tom Ford (Member 10258801) on 1-Feb-2013
    There was a clinic or something down the side of The Kings Hall. My mum took us there for juice and Virol.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
    bottle virol for spoonful..rosehip syrup..cod liver oil.syrup figs..galloways.milk magnesia.orange juice vit c...meat extract malt extract..district nurse bike..gladstone bag.....they say was virol factory hanger lane ealing..moved to devon to become ambrosia...reel films..of 50s..on next week also 2.45 bbc2..daily.for video.....1950s tv bbc midwife next week jenny works at london hospital with doc....

  • Re: New Year Greetings by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Feb-2013
    Tom i remember the clinic down the side of Kings Hall mum used to get orange juice & cod liver oil there must be 60 yrs ago now

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
    PHOTO OF IT.....LONG..LAYED BACK..FROM RD...ALONG..BY KINGS HALL...june 48 opened..1950s welfare council office..south rd..further along sherrys chemist corner so many many yrs there......from oates book..southall..............in google...flickr photostream.council welfare office south rd southall 1950s................board 50 page1

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 1-Feb-2013
    When I was at North Road School in the 1930's we had a headmaster, Mr Woodley, who inaugrated a School Speech day. This was held at kings Hall.There was a distinguished guest who handed out certificates of merit.
    I also went to Kings Hall for the wedding of a relative.
    Finally when I was demobbed from the RAF in 1948, I got my identity card and ration book from offices at Kings Hall

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Feb-2013
    says 3 storey high...red brick..our photos huge building..to 2012 used for so many things since wesley hall 1916......old methodist chapel was western rd.........saw that rowntree of your north rd school visit died 1950...got his art on our photo boards......methodist trustee..ingoogle..says survey..they could not afford..keep it up...asks for help..demolish or what....their few church services in school next door...

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Feb-2013
    I remember that visit of Harry Rowntree to north Road. He did a number of charcoal drwings ib front of us. These were subsequently framed, and hung in the hall. Wonder if they are still there???

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Feb-2013
    they ought to have them...if not..should be with local..history library ealing...he has school log books..at library to view.....lovely..paintings....he lived locally when older......photo of him on google....and with his illustrations.on our flickr photo stream...he did alice wonderland..........delicate work.....and with our ernest ham 73 local paintings...of everywhere local....such luck..talen... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2013
    MIKE......JUST READ..MR MEADS BOOK.......harry lived southall a while when older.....he opened....new dormers school..1934 7 dec.....cost £30000....new dormers..opened 2012 14000 students..cost 30 million......new prospectus ..in google.2012/13...lovely photos...cricket...field........drama art .IT..sport..lots new...there...swim pool...allotments section...growing tall yellow sunflowers they loo... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 5-Feb-2013
    Harry lived in one of the roads coming off the Uxbridge Road,before Dormers Wells Lane-a roas with some big houses.

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Feb-2013
    AH YES KNOW THE ONES.....WE AT DORMERS ALWAYS FELT THERE WERE SOME VERY NICE HOUSES...THERE...SOUTH SIDE UXBRIDGE RD BY DORMERS AND OPPOSITE OVER NORTH SIDE.....50% of dormers primary and seniors...ame from council estates....prefabs and...areas..........3 main ...alleys...went...from off north rd..to dormers primary......winter summer walked through all the alleys....long ones etc......new primar... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Feb-2013
    like ..harry illustrations...and we like st ives where he went ...died..1950 b newz 1878..72..1911 census dormers wells southall...artist..wife estella..newz.died age 86..son..age 3..became judge...solicitor..cornwall died 55.1962..daughter lynda.was age 1.1911..2 servants....son was sqad leader bomber command war......harry opened dormers 1934 he would be amazed .huge..now...like most school s..c... more >>

  • Re: New Year Greetings by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Feb-2013
    photos...harry...flickr southall board24....by 1948 he was st ives...in sloop pub..sketching...his work on its walls.....war he was capt in.royal engineers....1901 came to london..liked zoo..sketched animals..1987 his work selling at christies......president of london sketch club....his cartoons....childrens books work....

 
Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Dec-2012
On this very cold and frosty morning, I would like to wish everyone on this wonderful Southall Knowhere site of ours a very Happy Christmas and a Healthy, Happy and Peaceful New Year.   
  • Re: Happy Christmas by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 11-Dec-2012
    Thanks Pauline and I also wish everyone a Happy Christmas and a good New Year. [It's 10.30am on a cold and frosty morning in Weston-super-Mare - the sun has only just started to defrost the rooftops - the outside temperature at 8am was 0.5c!]

  • Re: Happy Christmas by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 11-Dec-2012
    Happy Christmas to all from sunny Australia -30 degrees C here today

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2012
    happy christmas to all everywhere..we all had xmas at southall some of the years.....hope weston..pier ok now...saw it on tv..we were there couple yrs ago at fire...great local social history museum...so much on display in it....gt sand sculptures........rare get white xmas ..but couple yrs ago...had arranged go out boxing day...so just went steady on ice paths....was pretty..scenery though.....am... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Dec-2012
    A merry Xmas happy a happy new year to all old Southhallians Denis

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Dec-2012
    The RSPB don't advocate feeding wild birds with bread, as although it fills them up very quickly, it doesn't contain the nurients they need.The blackbirds like uncooked porridge oats, sultanas, atora shredded suet, apples cut in half, black sunflower seeds, grated cheese, fat balls, wild bird seed, etc. The smaller birds eat most of this as well. I usually soak the sultanas overnight as they are more moist for them.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2012
    the pair of black rooks are funny they dunk...all nutrition bits put out in bird bath water..large magpie nest..they do as well....4 woodpigeons parade across the grass...rare but woodpecker we have both seen in right hand tree..little ones are so small in comparison.blue tits gt..robin blackbirds....rare but goldfinch.wren.wagtail.on bird bath...we fill in survey annually for rspb...they are deli... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 11-Dec-2012
    Happy Christmas to all old Southallians and wishing you all Health and Happiness for 2013.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 11-Dec-2012
    As The Dandy & Beano would say, "Merry Christmas
    to all our readers" and in our case writers as well.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2012
    heston blumenthal...if you get in oz as well...channel 4 tv..next wednesday giant xmas pudding you can step inside.....all.enjoyed today..kids lunches..but the parents went back down memory lane..giant 1000 times size..items....kit kat from york nestle rowntree.nestle was hayes......giant tea pot...giant pkt crisps..with the blue sachet we all knew..giant freeze dry granules powder of flavours..to... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2012
    back..site.off over 12hrs..emails to them but.....12 seconds of the 12.12 2012......all the 12 date .today..in the gazette also..palindrome......only towards beginning of new century...so wont happen again for long time...

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Dec-2012
    Just to wish a Happy Christmas and a Wonderful New Year to all the guys who keep our Southall Knowhere Site on track!

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Dec-2012
    The longest palindrome that I've ever heard of Pauline, was one that Dennis Norden once quoted

    "Are we not drawn onward we few drawn onward to new era"

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2012
    yes backwards the same..gazette of uxbridge brunel university today..has whole page on it..and tv today 12 secs.12.12.12...boasted it.....tonight series chris tarrant of millionaire show...many railways of world...he is on the ghan...adelaide..alice springs darwin..3 hrs and gets on the 1st ghan..rough.outback.of camel train.hence afgan camels.100yrs ago..98 dollars ticket..my melbourne friend her... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Dec-2012
    That's really clever Fred. Although Denis Norden is a really gifted person, I don't think this was his own Palindrome. I wonder where it originated?

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Dec-2012
    MIKE.....short page..top..is maureen glyne.....last reply there august..by donovan..says he played with her age 6..other says sge was 19 ..1950...25 artgyl..they were 7 knowsley ave.........FRED..billion dollars knew freight rail..alice to darwin..on tv last night.iron ore minerals to india etc..small communities rely on rail.only 24 hrs from alice..but 4 days 1000 mls.old rail to adelaide..hot re... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 13-Dec-2012
    A very happy Christmas and a happy and peaceful New Year to all friends, old and new, on the Southall message boards.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Dec-2012
    Yvonne- I knew Maureen Glyn well-her dad was a friend of my dad's-they were both on the buses.
    During 1940, a large bomb fell in that area, which left a very large crater.
    I would like to add my Christmas and New Year's greetings to all the wonderful people on this site.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Dec-2012
    mike...he says malcolm smith was his mate lived 19 argyle......crater..they have to deal with it all afterwards...my friend moved out .her dad got them back after war rebuilt house....new site...red blobs..on the bomb sites from coucil brough ealing...arp....see clearly 1940 map the ones around southall pk areas and other areas....right click and they are adding more details..type of bomb..etc....... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Dec-2012
    cornelius..more recent comment .says she was very pretty girl....my school friends came from..knowlsey argyll....thought valerie harman.classmate long thick hair redhead..friend eliz sache head girl.....did ...but could be she was one of those from somerset rd...areas.....harman famous brewery uxbridge..high st...many decades...huge.....they talk of as kids..played.in..dip..empty hill areas..over ... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Paul Kentish (Member 10270722) on 14-Dec-2012
    Hi There, not very seasonal, I'd like to say Happy Xmas and thanks to all who sent memories for me to share with Lionel - and yes Mike, he did remember the assemblies at the Tech.

    Sadly Lionel passed away on 4th Nov after suffering a 2nd stroke which stopped him talking or swallowing. In the end it was a blessed release for him to go. I was with him till the end...

    Thanks again, and have a g... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Dec-2012
    very best wishes to you and family...yes we ..and others..know and have gone through similar.....very best wishes..for all the times he enjoyed....hope ..nice memories..etc..our pages of southall and local...lives nostalgia...sincere good wishes..new yr...

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Dec-2012
    Paul,
    Sorry to hear of the passing of Lionel-RIP.

    Mike

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Jack (Member 10165328) on 14-Dec-2012
    Just emerging after a week of flu - ugh! Anyway, just to say a very happy Christmas to all and a happy and healthy 2013.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 20-Dec-2012

    wishing everyone at Southall Message, a happy Xmas and a healthy and prosperous 2013 from New Zealand

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 21-Dec-2012
    I am remembering childhood Christmas days in Southall. The one day when a fire was lit in the front room and we actually sat in there. The radio on with the Light Service and a special Forces Favourites programme. Some real Ginger Wine as a treat. The Meccano set placed in my bedroom on Christmas Eve when I was supposedly asleep.When a little older, the Carol Singing around the streets. Later stil... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Dec-2012
    happy xmas...yes my aunt..came in..about 6am..3 young cousins..myself..and....she put toys gifts bottom bed..made out I was asleep...told her when she was in her 70s ..ha...up early they lit fire..newspaper..twist ..bits wood..coal...coke...paper across front ..get it to draw...only one ..heat..fire....in living room...back kitchen cold..washing done in sink..veg out of garden prepared.....brown w... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 21-Dec-2012
    Bill Henley's entry brought back some golden memories.When I was at Southall Tech, I did a Christmas postman's job, 1943,1944. One year my partner was Alan Dampney, the next year Charlie Ellis.Wonder what became of them??

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 21-Dec-2012
    Those words from Bill brought back such memories but does anyone remember what they ate for Christmas dinner? I can only remember one occasion when we had roast chicken, think it was the first Christmas after WW2 ended, and I understand that chicken was a luxury meal in those days. We never had turkey or pork - we might have had beef as that was perhaps cheaper. Tea always seemed to be ham and sal... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Dec-2012
    Yes Bill i remember Xmas in Lady Margaret Road as you say only allowed in the front room for visitors & Xmas everywhere smelt of mansion polish happy days

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Dec-2012
    yes those lanterns nice to make..bounce down..open up the slits..crepe paper..woolworths stuff at xmas..bread butter alwats..jelly with tin fruit libbies....turban my aunts wore...came from their factory work..na we would buy her new pinny etc as her xmas present from cousins..broadway..wrap around..yrs they wore them..all the dirty veg out the garden soil....babies sit on pinny laps...always in t... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Dec-2012
    The Home Service, was it The "Light Programme" and other than the Third Programme which seemed to be non-stop funeral music, was there anything else??

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Dec-2012
    home service....became radio 4 about years of 1967...archers womans hour .afternoon play..desert island disc etc.......radio4 extra today..is great digital all 1950s famous favourites.repeated there.........light programme was forces favourte as well.......1967 ish became radio 1 and 2....evening big band music etc..lots popular radio 2..easy listening.........radio 3..classical radio..concerts op... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Dec-2012
    Yes Bill, this certainly reminded me of Christmas day in our house. My dad always lit the fire in the front room while he was giving it a polish on it's birthday. We all couldn't wait to get in there as it also looked out on to the street. Christmas Eve was so exciting as we were all waiting to get our stockings filled. I remember keep waking up to feel if it had been filled. We were always up whe... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Dec-2012
    our back house must have been..north east..always chilly..porch.in along side kitchen..larder..50s with them all working factory..they pooled together..saved up for extra bits xmas.....capon chicken or turkey..galvised tubs..yes ours sat in cold area...the hours before cooking..to keep fresh...gravy meat dish...nan must have had frock under wrap pinny..but seldom saw it ...but at the open neck..co... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 22-Dec-2012
    It is good to read other's memories of Christmas. Each one brings back more memories. My father kept chickens but could never bring himself to kill them. Our neighbour Mr Cox did that for him and the chickens were shared. I think the only time we ever ate chicken was at Christmas. My father was generally "on standby" for the Gasworks and could be called out at any time if there were a problem. The... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Dec-2012
    We did have a few cockerels which one of our neighbour's sons used to kill from time to time as my dad couldn't face it. However, we did have one lovely old chicken called Mary.I think it was a Rhode Island Red. She became more of a pet than anything else, although she did provide us with some precious eggs during the war. We used to bang on her saucepan of food outside the kitchen door, and she w... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 22-Dec-2012
    Oh Pauline, how sad and yet how funny the neighbour thought Mary was an aunt. The chicken I remember having one Christmas was the only survivor from one of three chicks. Does anyone remember the man who used to stand at North Road school gates with a pile of boxes full of day old chicks that he used to give in exchange for a bundle of old clothes? My mother managed to make three bundles up one yea... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Dec-2012
    west ave cornell next door many yrs noise of that early morning.he was noisy.hut with chickens.I went to collect dirt crusted eggs.straw.....brent rd..they have long yrs now that new..tall.ONE.wind turbine...electricity...airport parking many yrs since 1973 redundancies gas wks ..2 of ours there....each month.southall borough ealing in google..plans..redevelop..cross rail coming through...like emi... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Dec-2012
    Janice, I think you mentioned that you knew Mrs Stevens in Northcote Avenue opposite to where you lived. She was the lovely neighbour I referred to, mother of Mauvine, Barry and Kay. I had moved long before you moved in. It's a small world!

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 22-Dec-2012
    Pauline, yes I remember Mrs Stevens - didn't see much of Mr Stevens, think he was poorly at the time I lived in Northcote Ave. I can't remember any of the older children but do remember a little girl named Ann who was given my Raleigh bike when I decided I no longer wanted it, sometime in the early '60s.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Dec-2012
    we were still west ave 1961..my aunt there to 1965..woolworths still open then..gone now..1965 the big change hayes yeading went over to hillingdon borough..but brookside yeading willowtree still ours by canal before.....northcote arms still derelict..listed edwardian..but roof gone fire...little corner shop still there but used to be grubhams...lots of alleys..key fenced off......that go around back of houses.....

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Dec-2012
    greenford site remember xmas drinks party pubs...litten oldfield tavern allenby.black horse red lion..railway arms.harehounds..and hanwell pubs.civil engineer full of merry.....northcote arms xmas club..and..full bars...so many lived around...now scaffolding.long time.....plough north rd green......lots little high st.drinks..eats today...wine bars etc........lots xmas lights up....lido santa grot... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Dec-2012
    this time....1963...big freeze..............uxbridge rd buses had hard time...to april..boots..scarf.gloves hat...cold queue bus stop....etc........diaries observations 1940s..archive...spoken of...available now....xmas in the 40s..people wrote of..........6 pence night south london caves....homes bombed above but..many under could..get safe night..xmas chains sing song......the 50s midwife..so we... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
    I have just come from Southall i see the Singer sewing machine shop next to the Three Horse Shoes has gone after all theses years moved to an ind. estate.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Dec-2012
    in google got singer sew 4 high st...tyson sew centre 4 high st.....then tyson sew centre..at unit 2 barrett indust est...park ave..southall...just at back southall park..over by the railway.............think glassy pub restaurant now...

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
    Yes Glassy Indian veggie restaurant now

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
    I also found out that Spencer Street got it name from Earl Spencer G/dad of Diana Spencer who was involved in setting up a ind. estate near by in the 1880

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Dec-2012
    http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/SLHS/transactions5.pdf
    yes ..mr harris gave us the 1960s.southall society..papers.meetings...hanson..all people of southall group..many yrs local social hist so....typed info...meaning of street names..so much of southall green gov famous..gentry famous etc named after....spencer st after 5th earl..1st lord admiralty....of prince william..and kates.mum gdad ron goldm... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
    Yes it seems everything has to go in the end, after i found out about Spencer Street, i walked under the railway tunnel to the straight Took a pic of gas holder will put on my flicker site how run down it is now, must be 54/55 years since i went down that way

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Dec-2012
    photos of lots filming along straight areas......white lion pub..tv etc filming.....plans many yrs now for..dealing with the..toxic of gas area..and ..huge plans..new complex huge there...suppose by 10yrs..will see....all things happen gradually.....google has all the plans...pictures diagrams........we have been out dodging..rain...but loads lovely.displays lights..many places..............ducks ... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Dec-2012
    Went up on the Northola after dark took pic of traffic at night on the Western Ave.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Dec-2012
    Now posted

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Dec-2012
    YES IN GOOGLE ..D.SEXTON428....gt photos..3 large red lights on top of north east corner gas holder..gt lights looking towards white city marylebone london.western ave......they closed greenford flyover xmas eve for structure work..keep strength iron rust etc in cement..check...your scouts 1953 is good......1st time have seen.fish caught lido..18inches trout...into landing net.......cormorants lar... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Dec-2012
    Must remember to visit Lido have'nt been for years, do Bentley Priory to

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Dec-2012
    june 2013 stanmore middx.raf hq.bently prioy opens anew..lottery money..lots done there..after.april 2013 renewed lido beach area light railway areas..opens anew..new buildings.cafe childrens play areas etc.....over the holiday said they stil cant decode...the pigeon leg red message war to england found down chimney..canada tried .gchq/tried...war diaries.observations..many.spoken of now by housew... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Dec-2012
    Vic Wood also a very funny lady, all the wizardry they have today cant crack WW11 message.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 28-Dec-2012
    What happened (and when?) to the Litton at Greenford?

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Dec-2012
    long time ago 1980s..demolished...old peoples flats there now...garden was nice..good pub we used to use it in 1970s...paintings displays in garden.....oldfield lane opposite ravenor pk.....red lion sold exchanged contacts oct 2012...pub had regulars party last day......brewery said not viable....high cost ground rate as well..high st big corner...tax........bulldozer photo nov 2012......said flat... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Dec-2012
    our board47..nice photos litten and garden.....camra pub site is good they say demolished feb 2009.........tucked away down oldfield lane...not notice when went..residential care home replaced it..long time ago.......says..bridge pub western ave youngs beer.......blac horse up there..by canal...london pride beer....white hart yeading lane open..huge bed breakfast sign........industry read closed..... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 28-Dec-2012
    The Litton was a lovely place that l used a lot about 40 years ago. Put cut cheese on bartop on Sundays that some other pubs had already stopped doing. Many enjoyable drinks in the Litton, and also l learned that the Grange at corner of Grange Road, Ealing Common demolished and turned into block of flats around the same time too. . I moved to W Sussex 1976 and don't like going back to west Lond... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2012
    holiday season...queens awards...sir wiggins.....all awards and paralympics....local borough ealing hillingdon hounslow.........gold letter boxes..there gold medalists....I had natasha at my library age 11 to 6th form..held the door open for her .wheelchair..gt girl........freedom of the town..civic centre ceremonies...etc......gt food drinks....so many enjoy london...fantastic..day out.we saw new... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Dec-2012
    I drove around Sipson last week still very much intact fingers crossed

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2012
    yes went to..harmondsworth st marys..ancient pub village there...was nice..very special historic medieval barn there open to public........car parking.....need to know what to do.....many places.....not easy....the residents fight..many yrs about 3rd runway...strong groups...with others......my family..tree ..church books records.....mkt gardening there...so many worked ..there and around

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Dec-2012
    Yes went to Harmonswoth tried to find plaque to the Halifax bomber crew that were killed in the waterworks but no joy have to try again

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2012
    yes just been to bomber raf new memorial....war...green pk..piccadily..north side up by hyde pk corner....skill is amazing of the whole thing..respect..it is perfect...portland stone..and the statue.....sealed container with photo of 5 of the boys..left by..somebody..alcove area....opposite..hard rock cafe and shop..............best xmas have seen of london this yr..really splendid...gt day out...... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Dec-2012
    Yes must visit Bomber Command monument first time crew recognized & not before time

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Dec-2012
    Just tapped in Google "Photo of Bomber Command Green Park Piccadilly", and up comes a whole load of wonderful photos which can be enlarged. It's the next best thing for those of us who can't get there to see it, including me.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2012
    yes photos are good...the wonderful work gone into it...cost gt deal..but hard long try to get it...so good they...kept on.....achieve..the queen charles there she unveiled it...vets there...on tv......how do they achieve the crew ..such artistry...pillars white portland stone...wording latin in ceiling we took photos....alcove people leave memory...photo of 5 men...north west corner green pk....s... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jan-2013
    HAPPY NEW YEAR.......new tv sunday itv 9pm mr selfridge...of oxford st store........google..lived norwood green ..friars lawn 8 bedroom.value 2002 £1018270...his family there 1935 to 1940 then went to usa...robins 1826 of brickfields by canal..bricks went to build buck palace..earl jersey land...had friars lawn.....listed building architecture...1980s hayley mills lived there....attached to to gr... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jan-2013
    money bought engines..passengers taxi.trips.payed for.....lincs again......only one flies.....so after decades trying they hope to fly..this as 2nd one..lancaster bomber....panton brothers..in excellent condition in their hanger.museum.......their older brother died his plane war .grave in europe....computer page sky news...lovely photos seal...all these floods...up the river ouse east anglia...ca... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Jack (Member 10165328) on 2-Jan-2013
    Happy New Year everyone. Talking about Bomber Command, I am named after my uncle who was killed in WW2. He was a gunner in a Lancaster which collided with another one on the way to bomb a target in Germany on 1 February 1945. He is buried in Northern France. The wireless operator had an amazing escape. The plane was on fire and going down, and he grabbed a parachute pack as it bounced past him. Ho... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jan-2013
    I was at East Kirby about 2 months ago & watched Lancaster NX611 Just Jane taxing but i think theres a bit more than changing the engines before it flies, i think theres some serious work to be done on the main wing spars due to corrosion from its time at Blackpool

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jan-2013
    very sorry to hear..glad you gave to hendon...we have been couple times to hendon....it is very good there......find my past is interesting tv series on channel 19.yesterday channel..available to all....tues8th..gt escape.9pm.....they do family tree of 3 ancestors,,,then they meet up...tell all the stories....they have done most other things already...records lately that they look up..army..raf et... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jan-2013
    yes denis it has been on tv..news all day..2 nice brothers...taxi.passengers...this one..getting quite bit money..they hope get enough to do more to it....looks gt on the outside..but..........dylis on here ..went there..year ago...she told us the sound she remembered from war southall....engines....her family day out she enjoyed there...hendon has some plane...flights.....

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jan-2013
    Due to the Panton Bros efforts it is magnificent aeroplane

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2013
    today...news...spits after 17 yr annual search...36 found burma..search by modern radar etc...craters...he hopes to use in 3yrs time air shows.....bound to be in google news...tine team etc...gt archaeology..every yr documentaries..digs land ..or deep sea....very interesting...etc etc..

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2013
    MIDSUMMER MURDER.MIDDLESEX....LOCAL...NORTH OF UXBRIDGE....TV TODAY AT GRAND UNION.LOCK..PUB..SWANS..LOCATIONS PHOTOS FILM IN GOOGLE..SWORD GUILAMI..AND GREEN MAN EPISODES......LONG SERIES THEY DO LOCAL..CHALFONT..OFTEN CHURCHES VILLAGE GREEN COTTAGES ETC...MY FAMILY TREE AKERS RICHARDSON..CHURCH ROTHERFIELD PEPPARD.NEAR SO ...OXON..USED WE HAVE BEEN..SIGHT SEEING..DAYS.......lido..info lady.centr... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 7-Jan-2013
    My husband and I were lucky enough to see the Lancaster bomber flying a couple of years ago, whilst sitting in the garden on a summers day, we heard the engines and looked up it was very low and circled our village three or four times, it was early for a flyover that it was doing for the Silverstone Circuit, it was a magnificent sight one that lives in our memories.

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2013
    thats lovely jean..today they have arrived burma airport just there radarhas found buried 1945 in crates..36 spitfires ..they hope in 3 yrs to have fly in air displays....the fly at buckingham palace...goes on to northolt middx airport tip wings in salute...

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jan-2013
    Just shows how things change. I would never have been listening to news on LBC reporting an accident in Southall years ago. Now, I have just heard that a car has overturned underneath the Railway Bridge, and the whole of Greenford road is now at a standstill. I can just picture it. Utter chaos!

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2013
    in google....says 21 mins ago...rush hour getting busy....says reopened..uxbridge rd iron bridge greenford rd.......after earlier police car overturned..recovery work earlier........ironbridge.no direct turn many yrs now.......up north greenford rd...thick traffic daily to greenford station rail bridge.........new yr was that bad overturn m6...think was lady couple kids...was it brain.blood proble... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2013
    good site bbc travel news 21 mins ago 52 mins ago..tells of traffic trouble cleared..etc..west london etc..was before 4pm..windmill lane junction ironbridge junction greenford rd ..police car turned over....but cleared..for rush hr....slough henley etc..also today..transport stats say..one of the biggest incidents world now..today new york ferry crash 50 people injured ..etc........gt photo ruisli... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2013
    IN GOOGLE>>>NORWOOD GREEN AND £ BRIDGES NEW PARK.opens 2013 spring..photo lovely letters 3 bridges..clever there on our photoboard hedging trees wild flowers..on site of old sea cadets place...heritage money and also ealing broadway.walpole pk..digs to find history of park..now....sir john soane beautiful bridge..they search under for older original one...1700 and before......kate oil painting ou... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2013
    yes it is ..gunnesbury park local social history base ..for boroughs....they have 1st 30 oral memories collected from people ..local...1940s50s,,,,asking for more..wings victory parade walpole pk...raid shelters..etc..my friend age 80s at heston...gave her long pages account memories...country councils.archive has been doing this several yrs now.....ancient trees walpole pk...in google says many m... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Jan-2013
    Just been on the WW2 bomb map its a brilliant tool for research & very interesting

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2013
    YES LOTS PEOPLE INTERESTED>>GREENFORD SITE PRAISE>>IT>>>archive only let info out recently...they will add more as year goes along......arp reports to council...source....loads..great photos our boards....50...54...etc etc....all yrs local...gt memories......new park at norwood green.3 bridges......PHYLIS>>>IS THERE CAR PK THERE...

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jan-2013
    the film last night tv....margaret humphries..book..2011 film..uk oz governments 40s 50s 160000 orphans full ships deported..oz etc etc..£5 day keep kid..only 10th cost to keep kid in oz..but farm slave labour catholic monks mistreat etc...nottingham council payed her work..then oz and uk gov did...cbe from queen and oz awards nottongham uni awards..now given to her...uncover truth..find mums..et... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jan-2013
    mike..........1954 near you 40 north rd.lived.d stoneman..scout master..organised the football.....in google......north ave was my aunt.....also sea scouts 3 bridges canal...photos our flickr board..and new park there carved glossy wood seating shaped letters of 3 bridges.clever......osterley sea scouts now using thames 2012......stargazing..tv..was good...ruislip lido..300 to 500 use telescopes..... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 13-Jan-2013
    No car park that I know if for the new Three Bridges park, but no parking restrictions in Tentelow Lane. It is a big improvement over the old Sea Scouts area. Just a pity about the big block of flats they are building next to it. Also now building on the site next to the Plough after years of the Residents Assoc fighting against it. Calling it "Tentelow Gardens"! They were given "permission" to kn... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jan-2013
    so kind of you phylis...thanks.....gt tentelow good.....got lovely photo of clever woodcarved seats..shaped 3 bridges letters.........north side of canal...the glade lane park.......but this new must be south side.........well done residents committee...love the signs welcome norw green gold green...at 3 bridges and wolf pub.........sorry build at plough...shame......keep up the good work.....uniq... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Jan-2013
    TV next week Dan Snow history of railways the Wharnclife Viaduct ect. sounds like big changes at the 3 bridges more old Middx swept away even listed buildings is nothing safe

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jan-2013
    3 bridges still ok..along canal..for canal walk tow path..enhanced by park..wildfower seeds planted hedges trees..south side by tentlow lane..south canal side..called 3 bridge pk..used to be sea scout gun..their training canoes...they do it thames now..called osterley scouts.......gt seats at new park..in google..photo......glossy wood carved..like pine..in shape of huge letters 3 bridges very art... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jan-2013
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/71/a5118671.shtml
    in google.norwood green..bbc memories by people 30s 40s 50s....9 different pages by s tobitt his gt gran...40s plough pub..osterley..rations..war etc.etc...the green fetes years ago..may day queen..heston park..

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jan-2013
    http://www.friarslawn.co.uk/historyselfridge.html
    son and family of tv harry selfridge..1935 friars lawn norwood green..memories..1940 spring they went to usa......old harry founder of store regent st ..american of scots ancestry...chicago shop..ideas for the new changes zeal.of..wave of gt ideas..london store 1909,,high snobs wealthy local londoners...gentry....friars.georgian 4 storey..elm tree... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jan-2013
    HMV/EMI gone dad worked there before the war making sound boxes the bit with the micer disc where the needles went in on wind up gramophones very sad another bit of Middx. history gone

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jan-2013
    knew hmv..at piccadily..along by..trocadero..hmv oxford st.....stylus..memories of all the fiddly..arm across the records..get the fluff off the stylus..ha....cloth wipe the records..nice sleeves emi had them in..decca etc.......police call blue phone boxes on board50..54,...war tall siren by them....hillingdon cirus.western ave ..one by the pub..hayes...etc...heston village by church one....photo... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jan-2013
    That should be MICA DISC

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jan-2013
    so very sad...8 am.....helicopter hit crane 50 storey flats being built near thames lambeth palace...near rail...cars hit red flames black smoke..battersea heliport nearby...these tall cranes sticking up...helicopters so vunerable of stability...shard took shortish while build...amazing..little further by london bridge southwark cathedral....london bridge station ,the shard tallest n europe...view... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jan-2013
    They say theres nothing new we appear to have the modern version of the old pig bins back

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2013
    freeview 14 tv now.....carry on constable ealing film....done hanwell west ealing..inside,store, rowses and outside along windows rowses and high st.....west ealing....rowse store...photos our board54..50...flickr....

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Jan-2013
    I was telling my grandchildren about the pig bins only last week, Dennis. I don't know how it would go in Australia with our high temperatures e.g. yesterday was 41deg c (105.8f) and last night only dropped to 31c (87.8f) so the food would get pretty rank I'd imagine.

    Still if it works in UK then so be it. I wonder what the all invasive EU will say no doubt some new silly regulation that the F... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2013
    some of our nutrition bits...taken liked by birds...robin blackbird.rooks magpie..pigeons...squirrel.....starling....feed to keep warm..minus temperatures night day...3 yrs some die cold...6yrs some.survive...lovely bbc winterwatch on tv...daily......cameras on all life...creatures....we do rspb..survey in week or so...soon..loads of country do it......redkite...reintoduced...chilterns.....a40 wes... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jan-2013
    Hi Fred i remember mum used to boil the pig bin every time it was emptied, we have just been issued with fancy black & silver plastic bins a bit different to the metal bins issued by Southall council in the 1950s it all seems as tho old times have returned here

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jan-2013
    Put 2 crushed seed & fat balls out for the birds they say put water out to did this to as they tell us birds showed no interest what so ever

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2013
    yes.....birdbath freezes...so daily...water put to it....robin blackbird comes on it..about late pm.......songbirds always like drink..also squirrel cat ..push themselves up on it drink....fox..long brush heavy tail quite ginger...lady over back puts high table bits scrap of fish...seagulls circle swoop......blue tits gt tits eat insects trees......gy bbc tv..beaver..dam..and lodge with couple bab... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jan-2013
    I think that would be Fletton brick from P/boro there is still a brick works there

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2013
    yes portilo there in the last year tv...bbc 26.30 daily...large flat site....flat boggy land all around..ouse river floods..last brick making..peterborough had many 10s of brickworks..many............my gdad gt gdad worked kilns..wives kids age 9/12 in those days....northyde southall green 1850 to 1930....payed by number bricks they made...1000s..moulds..bake 5 days..then cool off clever hard work... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jan-2013
    Yes also remains of prehistoric settlement found in this boggy area

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2013
    yes he spoke of area..6.30 last night...gt filming tv..of ..excavating....sutton hoo..in british museum...fantastic..east anglia...etc..he said only one brick making..left....there...special carbon clay..helped the high temperature firing......meant photos snow over spikes park..photos .1970 1960 our boards...flickr....the high boots came in in 60s....zip up...very good...cold at bus stop....or sh... more >>

  • Re: Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jan-2013
    A seal has recently been seen in Orton lock P/boro

  • Re: Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jan-2013
    it was few weeks ago....tv news photo one also..lost...coming in..from east..over east anglia.....dear souls.get lost.......such huge area ..drained made land so many yrs ago......we have been few times...areas ..there..holidays.....seals on bbc2 winterwatch was good..tv....nature tv..recently 50%..loss of mother..or young..die..all reasons..thats nature...lost creatures stray etc...marvellous pho... more >>

 
New Stamp by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Dec-2012
A new 1st Class postage stamp that will be on sale next year is a picture of Boston Manor underground station. I have seen a picture of it and you might be able to see a picture of it now (or you will do soon) on one of the Post Office websites   
  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2012
    LOVELY PHOTOS TODAY..found on our board54..wednesday 4dec....his visit southall 27 nov....74 saxon rd...alley to dane rd....spikes bridge tudor rd school...not our ron cox from australia is it...gt photos thanks..hope you had nice trip..holiday...memories nostalgia....thanks for share your dear photos gt to see.....is it ron..or...74 looks gt..alley..nice wide bikes...tarmac..bike bars at entrance... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2012
    yes it is you ron..photo at spikes bridge alley..17 mar 2010...our site here you chatted to pauline len david....your family hse moved in 1939 74 saxon..by bike alley.....other alley 60 dane rd.....so glad you visited...several of us now have gone back had look round same places as your nov 2012 photos.....hope you and family...are good.....hope gt holiday all the way from.oz..27 hrs when I went 1... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Dec-2012
    Thanks Ron for photos of Southall taken on your holiday in UK on Board 54. It's all changed now though, although still nice to see.I expect the ghosts of the past are still walking across that old Spikes Bridge with the squeaky wooden boards and the ledge across the outside where we all walked for a dare!

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Dec-2012
    squeaky boards yes...spikes sticking out..they put to try stop kids keep climbing....rope across ..kids in water all pranks there..40s 50s 60s....hope ron had nice weather....beginning november was so nice......we had great days out canal.rivers...blue sky.warm..but hope..ron not catch rain that came in around 27th....happy england visit ron..great photos southall thanks....greenford church...4,30... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Dec-2012
    dear patrick moore passed away today 89..of pinner middlesex,,,lived selsey sussex..we were near there last yr..brian may.guitarist of feltham middx,,and others..follow...the work of...space...we have always..very good wishes..his school library books..always filled the shelves...and tv sky at night.....4 march 1923 pinner

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2012
    greenford holy cross church.....7 days left on bbc iplayer..computer see songs praise....was good...war greenford..searchlights horsendon hill...rations...local book authors local social history..mr bartlett,,,his family ironmongers ealing... mr hounsdell....lovely choir...next episode march.......1939 extra new church needed..tiny yr1200 1400 church..farms..growth 1930 greenford.factories houses ... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Dec-2012
    I watched Songs of Praise last night on BBC1, from Holy Cross Church,Greenford. There were a lot of people there who were elderly, and their recollections of Christmas during the war brought back a lot of memories.

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2012
    yes ...they were marvellous to have spoken so interesting.......lady has mbe..her daughter in law said...lady of salvation army .with hubby in band.......greenford scouts......2 men authors of famous books local social history..who speak at ealing library and schools..hounsell and..bartlett..whose parents had hardware ealing..he was evacuated.but like many came back..fairly quickly....baptist chu... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Dec-2012
    I remember the Mornington Road incident well. I was home for lunch, and my mum was talking over the fence to Mrs Pannell at No.76 North Road. Suddenly, without any air raid siren, there was AA gun fire, then machine gun fire, then the sound of falling bombs. We learned later these had fallen in Mornington Road, and there had been a number of casualties.

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2012
    mornington rd in google.......gives account from dennis upton bk..war....5 days after medway drive perivale bombing near a40 western ave...they tried for ammo factories northolt airport.......30 sept.1940.says 6 enemy planes daylight bombs..6yr old keith peters killed of 37 dead.....then looters house had to be rebuilt after war his mum lived there till she died.......kids got pennies to brush are... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2012
    25 sept 1940...medway drive .near western ave..houses only 3 yrs old...parachute mine..like load hay pub.......6 killed...king queen visit mayor..photos gazette.......man layed over his wife to protect her...30 injured.....heston..target heston airport..my family there since 1850.....her hubby 1st war survived somme with his brother...born 1887..heston grave 1944 dead..direct hit..buzz bomb...age ... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Dec-2012
    Many years ago i meet a person in the Yeading area who was a casualty in Mornington Road he had been hit by 2 bullets in the back

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Dec-2012
    on google account of mornington..how bad it was.....and the new site..in google...bombsight.....right click of the red blob..on the rd gives more info.....the freeview tv..repeated buck palace..plane..came up the mall..queen king lascelles..by couple seconds just missed ran to shelter..chapel and south corner of palace bombed....gallery open to the public..he showed me the room..used to be chapel.... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Dec-2012
    quite lot of southall and greenford people spread out to yeading...area for most yrs was always just open fields.brick workers pub..then..fast rapid growth houses......we lived 14 yrs near mornington and the neighbours still talked of bad bombing....library had display boards history greenford.....about week or so we had stand pipe.buckets water .just by mornington....no water because huge job new... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Dec-2012
    I seem to remember that a small boy playing in his back garden in Mornington Road was killed by machine gun bullets.

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Dec-2012
    what are they doing......is it northolt airport.spits..chasing off..nazi planes..chase..greenford being near...google says the chase from northolt airport..raf...down south through yeading to uxbridge rd by warley where tony lived and shakespeare ave....across uxbridge rd..to hayes town....people said the damage fear done by machine guns....was worse than some of the bombs.......reconaissance....s... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Dec-2012
    some trivia tony just said.......humpty dumpty..from colchester civil war royalists cromwell....humpty name of canon on wall of st mary..came off the wall all the kings horses all the kings men not put back.on a wall.back together again...nostalgia toys tv...had scalextric..dinky.toys..started with war bomb sites .cement mixer etc for kids..interest.....tonight bbc 2 ..9.30....interesting james ma... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Dec-2012
    I have read that a lot of casualties that where shot were caused by R.A.F fighters shooting German aircraft. Yvonne you mention the Victoria Station Dornier that was rammed by Ray Holmes aircraft some weeks ago i saw the remains of the engine from his aircraft after it was recovered from road works in London

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Dec-2012
    yes the king queen said 2 mins earlier they would hve died..heard the plane come up the mall sound and looked out wasnt ours..ran only just escaped to under shelter..that side of buck palace..dormier...yes pilot...greenford facebook site of memories nostalgia,,,,,they say,,the old 1930s race track site...north lady marg rd...had army depot war..nazi find out everything...making for that or northol... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
    I have just been in Southall i see the Singer sewing machine shop next to the Three Horse Shoes has gone after all these years

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Dec-2012
    well done ..visit...yes thought it had..in last couple yrs..thought saw recent photo somewhere..it looked gone....yr 1900..one of the oldest shops......3 horseshoes still open suppose.................red lion..tends to be hotel......scaffolding suppose still up northcote arms.........palace cinema..boards..coffee shop there...........lady tramp 1955 good film over the holiday........gt xmas music.... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Dec-2012
    Greenford Red Lion now gone

  • Re: New Stamp by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Dec-2012
    I can remember the army depot it was in Kensington Lane there where football & rugby pitches
    to on the site of what is now the Greenford Northola

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Dec-2012
    yes..its the famous ancient smith farm...opposite on east side....to entrance northala...the still have it on the gate of the old farmhouse...........lots of the greenford site..nostalgia....talk of the army depot...near on the area of the 1920s 30s..pony track races....gentry from london came on rail to northolt station........photos our board..the names the housing estate roads on it around it b... more >>

  • Re: New Stamp by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Dec-2012

    Yes my Aunt & Uncle lived on Thursk Close in the 50s

  • Re: New Stamp by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jan-2013
    Greenford Red Lion now gone as Denis says and so has the famous Tolworth Red Lion too. Built almost to the same design - both were once Fullers Brewery pubs I think and built almost at the same time, and now a massive block of flats built Tolworth in next to no time. Builders will make a fortune, but social life collapses as people have nowhere to go.

  • Re: New Stamp by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jan-2013
    Greenford Red Lion now gone as Denis says and so has the famous Tolworth Red Lion too. Built almost to the same design - both were once Fullers Brewery pubs I think and built almost at the same time, and now a massive block of flats built Tolworth in next to no time. Builders will make a fortune, but social life collapses as people have nowhere to go.

  • Re: New Stamp by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jan-2013
    Greenford Red Lion now gone as Denis says and so has the famous Tolworth Red Lion too. Built almost to the same design - both were once Fullers Brewery pubs I think and built almost at the same time, and now a massive block of flats built Tolworth in next to no time. Builders will make a fortune, but social life collapses as people have nowhere to go.

  • Re: New Stamp by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jan-2013
    Sorry. Something wrong. First 2 attempts, messages didn't go then on third try all 3 have come up!!

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jan-2013
    2 rare pictures redlion greenford on our boards..47..or one of them....yr 1900..with wife kids outside..also.before with smithy.next to it....wagon hay horse unwin underwood farmer...photos of the boarding...bulldozer empty space there nov 2012 on our boards.....the old maps we have show it there......

  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jan-2013
    gazette in google...lots info there....1930 current pub built.....freehold bought from brewery by be blacks clearview homes...locals demand mixed site shops pub below..flats above...photos board47.....application for redevelop demolish.went to ealing 1995..brewery said not viable any more..huge amount money council make every year from yellow box there..bus lane to otter road.greenford bus rest pl... more >>

 
New Stamp by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Dec-2012
A new 1st Class postage stamp that will be on sale next year is a picture of Boston Manor underground station. I have seen a picture of it and you might be able to see a picture of it now (or you will do soon) on one of the Post Office websites   
  • Re: New Stamp by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2012
    THEY ARE LOVELY..HUGE SIZE IN GOOGLE..THANKS KEITH....art deco boston manor 1934...osterley is amazing...lots of our stations interesting....stmp..new canary wharf also...amazing..been few times...high down into modern tube...off lakes docks...banks skyscrapers...150 yrs tube oldest in the world.2013........9th jan stamps//transport museum ..been few times..good.covent garden....acton depot open e... more >>