North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Nov-2012
I lived in North road from 1933-1951. I knew a number of boys who lived in North Road, but have no idea where any of them got to.These include Leonard Fuller,Richard Pannell Reggie Wiggins,
Raymomd Kitt, Kenneth Loader and his sister Joyce.Gerald Davidson-I heard from a relative that he died a few years ago.
Any news of them welcome
  
  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Nov-2012
    did put all the names in google ..incase they and families have a facebook....but could not get anything......dylis is facebook.....are you old face southall...several yrs now...they have some people of similar age........long yrs knowledge people southall....if dylis puts the names on there.......tonight bbc1.one show the famous jim..marshall .of southall green family...music shop hanwell.....fam... more >>

  • Re: North Road by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Nov-2012
    There were quite a few Loaders in Greenford in the late 60s

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Nov-2012
    at the short page........here....in the page with the list...under..s........southall..........says ...looking for loader family...hanwell..........they have not put their name.......

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Nov-2012
    remembering names.....in 2009.and 2010.......the hanwell site....cuckooites.....in google......they say...kath...avis....archie..maggie..loader.........probably common name..but southall families did move about.........

  • Re: North Road by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Nov-2012
    .....also check spelling > > may have been LODER

  • Re: North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Nov-2012
    It was Loader to the best of my memory-must check with the electoral role for North Road for 1946 which I have here-somewhere! Mt Loader was an Engine Driver on the GWR. Some more names-Robert Hurdwell( I had contact with him a few years back.) Adrian Brooks, Peter("Monkey") Rabson, Ronald Body, Joyce Aubrey.

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Nov-2012
    in google...............martin loader photography gwr steam.......................if it helps ...if his son

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Nov-2012
    joce her surname would change at marriage.........192 telephone in google....2003 southall..living..... joseph c aubrey and wife olive........len used to have free 191 to click get address because his son was policeman......................

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Nov-2012
    in google..free site....genes reunited ..if anybody doing the tree.........peter w g rabson...born 1930...london areas...........and uxbridge reg dist which was southall.....born 1863 harold peter rabson........

  • Re: North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 24-Nov-2012
    Yvonne-looks like the right Peter Rabson-rwo years younger than me!

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Nov-2012
    great says born st pancras.....lots of people moved into southall 1930s......on birth records...reunited.....in google free site...may be somebody going family tree of him.......gwr man think he could easily be your engine driver son......lots nice steam photos he has in google........our dylis boot taylor..on the other site....she has couple on their who were engine drivers southall.their father ... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Nov-2012
    mike.........julia hickley...is doing family tree of peter.....could be her married name......genes reunited membership number of her is.....1884387.........free site to view her name.....view records..peter 1930 birth st pancras london.......unusual surname,,,,,not many about,,,,north rd school had reunions....may have record of him.......lots good wishes to you

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Nov-2012
    mike.........julia hickley...is doing family tree of peter.....could be her married name......genes reunited membership number of her is.....1884387.........free site to view her name.....view records..peter 1930 birth st pancras london.......unusual surname,,,,,not many about,,,,north rd school had reunions....may have record of him.......lots good wishes to you

  • Re: North Road by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 25-Nov-2012
    MICHAEL - I see that you mentioned having had contact with Robert Hurdwell some while back. Robert is my cousin, still alive and kicking but very busy caring for his wife who isn't very well these days. Robert's parents used to own the grocer's shop in North Road. They sold up and retired sometime in the 1950s - both died in late '97/ early '98. You might also remember younger sister Anne who has ... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Chris (Member 10220786) on 25-Nov-2012
    JANICE.......your Aunt & Uncles grocers was next door to my parents Shoe Repair shop. I remember the Hurdwells. My parents closed the shop in 1973 to move near me and my sister. Mum passed away this year, in June, aged 98 years. An amazing lady. Chris x

  • Re: North Road by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Nov-2012
    I was so sorry to hear that your dear mum had passed away Chris. What a wonderful age to live to. You say she was a wonderful lady, and she had a wonderful family looking after her.

  • Re: North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Nov-2012
    Janice, I remember the Hurdwell shop very well.Pre-war my dad said that Mr H did the best ham in Southall!
    Chris, I used to take shoes fot repait to your parents shop.

    Wonderful memories !

  • Re: North Road by Chris (Member 10220786) on 25-Nov-2012
    Yes Mike, happy memories. As you know my Mum, Dad and Grandad ran RMT shoe repair shop for 40 years. I just wish I had more photos of the inside and outside of the shop. I can see it all in my minds eye but I'd love to have photos to show my children & grandchildren. One day I will take my grand-children down the alleys of Grove Terrace, where I was born .......another world to what they are used to! Chris x x x

  • Re: North Road by Chris (Member 10220786) on 25-Nov-2012
    Pauline, yes Mum lived to a wonderful age. We really miss her. I think you once mentioned that you remember her knitting the chain mail suits for the films during the 1950's. She always loved to knit. In fact she was knitting right up until the day before she passed away. Chris xx

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Nov-2012
    very best wishes..chris...lovely to hear of her knitting...bet the new babies everything such wonderful things they always knitted....my crowd at west ave...sideboard full needles..wool from broadway...scans..cheaper...I had to stand 2 hands while they bound great neat balls wool...raglan sleeves...all had cardie...kids school cardigans..my aunt knitted all her life west ave north ave southall..an... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Nov-2012
    Yes Chris,I certainly remember you telling us all that your mum made chain mail for Alan Ladd the film star. My friend Mauvine and I absolutely drooled over him when we were teenagers. We thought he was the bees knees. It wasn't until I got older that I realised how short he was! Happy days at the pictures, as we used to call them!

  • Re: North Road by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 25-Nov-2012
    Yes Pauline and I'm still happy to call them 'the pictures'. The movies just doesn't cut it for me.

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Nov-2012
    it was always saturday morning.....pictures.....as well......dear actress passed away yesterday.....age 92...dinah sheridan,,,northwood middlesex....................of geneveive..vintage car run 1953 london to brighton.....photos our board in southall high st up by greenford ave..butlers town hall traffic lights......their car stopped child dropped ice cream..dinah in splendid hat costume..open ca... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Nov-2012
    Yes, Dinah Sheridan was right, it was the best British film ever made. I've watched it countless times, and never tire of it. She was magnificent as the mother, as was Jenny Agutter as the eldest daughter. They were all such good actors and actresses. I also loved Bernard Cribbins as the railway porter. It was quite a tear jerker as well.

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Nov-2012
    each actor had prize part excellent cameo.pieces..lost count times have watched it...feel good factor....great at waterloo station last couple yrs acted on the old rail line there....steam train..great jokes..perks birthday old cottage his wife kids..gifts....the school runners under the rail bridge..buns for tea..if sold a story...1950s southall the bakers had more expensive cakes etc in the wind... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 26-Nov-2012
    Chris, so sorry to hear you lost your beloved Mum. I also mentioned to you some time ago about remembering your Mum knitting "chain mail" for films. And talking about films, Friday nights were regular picture nights for my Mum, Dad and me. My Dad was a real film fan, and I've been told that he named me after his favourite film star, Phyllis Calvert. Sadly I've always hated the name, and am never c... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Nov-2012
    calvert was lovely actress....influence of cinema was amazing though..lots named after film stars etc......queue around the side cinema heyday..friday saturday nights......30s 40s..gdad and most were of victorian times rural north hyde folk..his mum dad..so when explosion..glam hollywood his daughters..lipstick..or seams up back stiletoe heel shoes....necklace earrings.....he never accepted it...o... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 26-Nov-2012
    CHRIS

  • Re: North Road by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 26-Nov-2012
    CHRIS

  • Re: North Road by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 26-Nov-2012
    CHRIS - Condolences on the loss of your mum. It's very hard to lose a mum and it's no easier however old they become.

  • Re: North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Nov-2012
    Chris, your entry brought back many nemories of Grove Terrace. Leslie Nelhams was a great friend of mine-in recent years I made contact with his daughter on the FriendsReunited that was, before it was ruined.Other names include Bertie Harper, Kenneth Francis, George Barr

  • Re: North Road by Chris (Member 10220786) on 26-Nov-2012
    MIKE.......I remember Leslie a very smart well spoken gentleman. Did he serve in the RAF? I also remember Ken Francis & Bert Harper but I don't remember a George Barr - must have been before my time. Ken had younger brothers Donald & Eddie. Bert had a sister Lilly & a younger brother Jim. I seem to recall MR HARPER was a road sweeper. Mr Francis and his wife had very strong Welsh accents. Eve... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Nov-2012
    CHRIS: Leslie Nelhams was in the RAF, as indeed I was 1946-1948.Iremember all the people you recall.
    The Barr family may well have moved on-George Barr, and a boy-Freddie Miller from North Road were caught trying to break into a house in Lady Margaret Road, and went to Borstal!

  • Re: North Road by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Nov-2012
    Some of the Genivieve film was actually filmed between Uxbridge & W Drayton.

    Put > 14T12 Genevieve Weymann < into google and there is a good film still of car passing a 223 bus there

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2012
    thanks will have a look.....still photo of them in windsor st uxbridge the 1952 old well known green front hardware shop there...photo on our boards....in the vintage car...ken more dinah....and the scene..zebra crossing southall broadway just before the lights..by greenford ave..2 children icecream drop..stops the vintage car...photos on our board......good film...watched lots times..so many of t... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2012
    good photos of the buses...1952 with john gregson .vintage car..kay kendal....tram lines..semi derelict..tarmac...the iron rails dug up for scrap metal...the crossover of the conduit tram track...the gas lantern.long bracket streets.....southall.geneveive yellow vintage car ken more.with town hall left north side.traffic lights..and the oh so busy busstop right south side..along from butlers area.... more >>

  • Re: North Road by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Nov-2012
    Burnham Beeches, the owl cafe swimming pool, fun fair & the refreshment stall in the dell all gone now a housing estate so im told

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2012
    nice in google..on burnham beeches....we went once....beeches cafe now called car pk..kids play area..etc.....pubs......genevieve photos 1952..vintage car at..beeches pubs seen..pub gardens.lovely photos.....oak etc..trees.pond lake.......beaconsfield to slough area........clivedon view over thames....road down to maidenhead famous arch bridge thames is nice....boulters lock thames boat trips....c... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Dec-2012
    ITS BACK>...sunday emails dont think staff there ..but monday they rectified.SITE BACK........week news..northolt airport....war pilot..medals etc up or sale several thousand pounds......famously.he dropped french tricolor.flag over arc triumph..down champs elysee ..kids french waved..germans taken by surprise....he returned to northolt...french crow.... of low fly caught in..his..under plane....g... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Dec-2012
    Yes, Southall Knowhere off the radar all day Sunday, but I'm afraid I was still on a high after watching England score 38-21 against the New Zealand "All Blacks" at Twickenham on Saturday. Absolutely unbelievable!

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Dec-2012
    kate pregnant,...so boy or girl now ....future becomes sovereign monarch..1955 kates mum born perivale maternity hospital demolished 1980s...they goldsmiths of dudley rd southall green....congratulations...

  • Re: North Road by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Dec-2012
    Just been announced that the Dandy comic is being stopped.

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Dec-2012
    yes was good on the bbc one show..the artist worked ffor glasgow thomson...the war yrs hitler..in it ..desperate dan..cowboy films influence..on line digital...kids not buying now...the big chin stubble....the cat....artist died at his drawing..easle...was great artist as child went to art school...

  • Re: North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Dec-2012
    Shame about Dandy- when it came out I got a copy-pity I didn't keep it!

  • Re: North Road by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 4-Dec-2012
    And I suppose The Beano will go that way as well. My Granny used to always have them on the lunch table at Norwood Rd on the day they came out, waiting for me to enjoy.

    I think the Dandy came out Mondays & Beano Thursdays. I don't know about the UK but here in Aust most publications have an online presence, which for some publications will end up as the only way to access them. I don't think D... more >>

  • Re: North Road by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 5-Dec-2012
    We tried to get the last ever copy of the Dandy yesterday and today. No luck, all sold out.

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Dec-2012
    bbc google.......says 1st edition reprinted in the final..dandy........quick contact to the publishers thompson ..dundee....might get you one.......they flew off shelves.......1st edition.s.....free gift cover........they say..gift .and .comics..fetch huge value....65 yrs ..75yrs..marvellous long runs...

  • Re: North Road by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Dec-2012
    Publishers of Dandy & Beano were DCThompson of Dundee, not Glasgow. Old Dundee family business.

  • Re: North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Dec-2012
    Before the arrival of The Dandy, I used to get two comics-Film Fun and Comic Cuts.

  • Re: North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Dec-2012
    I got the first issues oh Knock Out,Dandy , and Beano from Amsdens Newsagents in North Road

  • Re: North Road by Chris (Member 10220786) on 7-Dec-2012
    Amsdom & Popes gone now Michael.....a block of flats there now. Strangely the yard at the back of A&P's remains the same. An ancient wall still stands between the yard & the waste land down the alley which runs alongside the backs of the first few houses in Shrubbery Road. The yard at the back of A&P's is where the horses used to stand in wait to be shoed the Smithy we used to watch as children. Chris xx

  • Re: North Road by terence patrick hewett (Member 10243212) on 7-Dec-2012
    I have just been online and found out that my 1940 Rupert book is worth £495: just to think my Mum paid 4/6p for it.

  • Re: North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Dec-2012
    Chris: the Amsdons had a daughter-Norma-who was a few years younger than me.

  • Re: North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2012
    yes high value so many items.....did not think to save for..sale..free gift on the cover on 1st edition also value...new Site...in google...SPELT....BOMBSIGHT.ORG.......lcc bomb.damage.map..sept 1940 etc..war..kate jones.staff..did..lots ...on our photos...uxbridge hillingdon .hayes.....just north of north rd southall at ruislip rd.....by greenford grammar....so many....target factories..airports.... more >>

 
A few months ago...................... by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Nov-2012
The notes contained what would have seemed mysterious references to cypher machines at Eastcote and a man called Sir Edward Travis.
A few months ago...................... on a thread here that I cannot find now, some secret locations were mentioned, especially around the Greenford - Eascote area. . Just now this news item has appeared on a BBC news website, and here is a small extract from tha... more >>
  
  • Re: A few months ago...................... by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Nov-2012
    Here is a larger extract from the article on a current BBCnews page......... > > >


    Mike Thomson reveals how one of the country's greatest post-war secrets was almost blown decades before the government chose to reveal it.

    The government's secret listening and decrypting station, GCHQ, is now well-known, but for decades its very existence was officiall... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2012
    yes it is in google...bbc radio4 yesterday....1951 they found booklet i old bell pub fleet st...to say eastcote...secret nearly blown open........nice quiet eastcote middlesex...little high st tube station.....use possibly the old manor house in high walled gardens...at west end..of high st....thick high trees old lanes..there.....layed..derelict many yrs.......last couple yrs with heritage ..lott... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2012
    lots in...raf eastcote...in google.......base used..100 bombe enigma machines by 800 wrens.and 100 raf technicians...outstation lime grove eastcote field end rd...easterly direction down onto south ruislip......area of usa airforce..many yrs hospital...etc..they used ruislip lido for leisure.....so good at bletchley last year whole day picnic in grounds..whole detailed tour talks...fantastic..so i... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2012
    PAULINE.......just thought you might like to know..cameras at greenford holy cross oldfield lane week.of rehearsals choir..candlelight..lookig amazing.....songs of praise....saturday.t v cameras rehearse..evening..aled jones arrived...filming...1st part on tv..dec9th...next part next sept.....so often filming around there..quiet place....bbc tv..new tricks...several times..and other shows..also...... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Nov-2012
    Thanks Yvonne. I will try to keep an eye open for the choir on 9th December on TV. I used to be in our W.I. choir many years ago, and we took it around to the local hospitals and Pensioners' clubs. We also performed shows, including the Can Can. I always remember one old man telling us when we had finished one evening "I've seen worst rubbish on television." We never knew whether it was a compliment or not!

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2012
    can can was local.dance group..last time we went to ravenoer pk carnival fete...was fantastic can can on grass gt dresses....we will watch songs praise...wonderful church greenford yr1200..war yrs they built extension church.for extra room....very beautiful lots photos in google and the building work....my family tree started there 1780 baptism timberlake james,,,then went many sons farm workers.s... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2012
    iplayer eastcote cyphers..bbc radio 4 ..3 parts is good..last episode next monday night.....loads good info ..photos in google....hut 3...tall high fence gate spikes on top..1951..journalist notes found retired staff member chatted.........but women bletchley....kept mouths shut from family etc..nearly all their lives..security...1952 1954....cheltenham....around yr 2000..houses built eastcote....... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2012
    keith ...think found google..item like your docks...diagram map...like you spoke of......1930 1938.....very good...will put on our photo boards.......lyons dock....yeading new west end brick dock....clayton odell dock...willowtree hewitt dock....durdans dock...as 1950 photo that zeta took....looking up...docks..getting filled in.....yeading marina and huge nature pond now....taylor woodrow marina.... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2012
    bill...photos on our boards.....1910 4 kids outside....canalside...cottages......north side bulls bridge rd at tow path....front doors cottages onto canal path...looking east to white western rd junction pub bridge........often spoke of spikes bridge walking over...on west side..seing 1950s.. long.....planks wood piled high under open sheds..1950s....barges tarpauling..high stack long planks wood.... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Nov-2012
    The wharf for unloading timber at Taylor woodrows is still there with rails & turntables still on the towpath but covered in thick undergrowth another place we played as kids

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2012
    greenford church ..in google has photos of the day..anybody allowed see them use them...gazette.says 9 dec and 24 .march 2012..bbc tv showing..vicar is of over 30yrs there.....several choirs from around there at greenford saturday..for december candlelight......people asked for war local memories...as items..for it...church started new build extend space.from little yr1200 church..in 1939 but war ... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2012
    yes ...walking to ruislip rd at tow path....saw...lots bare ground grass..to west side...thick growth..men fishing...then..onto new modern marina basin...and new complex..marina flats...tall office block at west on bridge intself finished sept2012.....the new photo of 6 huge sheds long planks barges is amazing board54...and aerial..of 3 bridges..clever camera shot..activity there......at curve bri... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2012
    holy cross site...think it might be 16 dec for festive shown..and 23 march other part showing 2013 for palm sunday..but will check rtimes....board40 has uxbridge timber wharfs...very high big like hayes bridge along to spikes...ones......we were asked for wentworth rd filled in docks...more .amaze pictures..on photo board 40 flickr..in google...
    http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/southall830/page4.htm... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2012
    mike............think YOU mentioned benares ship evacuee children to canada.....bbc tv..very sincere programme daily 9.15......has peope of afgan services.today.......but 3 children and their mum on benares 1940.....many were lost with german torpedo 4 days out to sea...but...these escaped raft..long time saved..the children grown up today spoke very well...etc etc

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 8-Nov-2012
    Thanks Yvonne for the pictures I was very interested in the photo of Davies Timber Yard, I never realised how big it was, I remember they had a fire there must have been terrifying for the people living around there, the houses were very close to the yard. My Mother used to have lodgers who worked there, through the war, Irish chaps mostly and one who worked in the office by the name of Harry ... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2012
    yes in the photo you can see how close the houses are behind...so berwick ashford..going to delemere..brookside..off hayes bridge border of southall......photo snow of holy cross greenford..tv programme hymns..memories of wartime greenford...the people said you will hear their teeth chatter......the heating noisy..so sound man switched it off ..long day rehearsals they were cold...all day singing.... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2012
    northolt raf...up from..lady marg rd..to yeading lane..west end rd....their raf band.as often.lord mayor show today.london.they play all over world..queens colour..there...going past 10 am..can here practice out on parade ground....over the yrs...board47 new photos...and diagrams..southall canal etc...docks..names firms.etc..1938...and all canal areas......all general photos also...sunday remember... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Nov-2012
    Thanks Lady Margaret Road seems to have had its share of fame this year

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Nov-2012
    I've just had a look through Southallboard 47. I only intended having a look at the View Sideshow of one photo which enlarges them full size, and ended up going through the lot. It was wonderful to see scenes in Greenford, Langley, Hanwell, etc. which were like stepping back into the past for me! I could have wept when I saw Langley High street just along from Raymond road where we lived for all t... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2012
    yes good idea pauline...and if you are on enlarged photo can just click the next one and it goes along.....I had forgotten such good ones in past boards..rare to get photos decades past so special to keep them nicely...yes denis.raf band was good at lord mayor show...good every year....time team..tv this weekend have unearthed large tunnels deep by our coal miner boys sapers.1st war by ypres..and ... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Nov-2012
    if war 1 dead...marched past london cenotaph today 4 abreast would take them 3 and half days......free ancestry in google till 12th...pension service medal card.ist war.military just found grandad,,middx regiment from..3 kids left at the common southall.by oak pub...5mths training just by gt yarmouth gorleston on sea..where my aunt.myself..3 times been on beach holiday..palin on digital tv ..last ... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Nov-2012
    WELCOME BACK..24HRS all knowhere sites off...sent several emails to let them know.......90ys of bbc radio today...started with music..churchill etc.etc...exhibition 1st transmiter..at science museum kensington west london..broadcasting hse by oxford circus.1966 was great.. reference library 1st floor left side ..enjoyed...........photos board54 and 47..salvation army band 11 nov annual crowd green... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Nov-2012
    pauline jean.......lovely book in google..read through the pages.whole book.....the langley boy......charles tyrie...40s50s 60s...starts lovely map diagram...langley.church redlion....gwr station.ladybird factory.north star pub..kitchen..cooking apples..dandy beano...slough grammar.....3 weeks of emi site in gazette....1973 emi left £250 million project..develop whole site .....and crossrail....... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Nov-2012
    Thank you Yvonne for "The Langley Boy" A Trilogy Charles Tyrie, Google Books. I started reading it, and of course recognized lots of places he mentioned although he was in Langley during the war. Hawker's Aerodrome was just behind the
    semi-detached houses in Raymond road, and I remember in the 1950's looking out of my back bedroom window and seeing loads of sheep. You could hear the ringing of t... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Nov-2012
    yes....like the map he made of all the area....yes it is houses on many aerodrome places...ruislip uxbridge..the eastcote.HMS pembroke of war decypher raf huts .now houses but called after the history names of the heritage there...slough my cousin dreaded they build houses on their life long back of garden..because of the great view of windsor castle......mike or anybody...southallknowhere typed i... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Nov-2012
    I realise not everything could be included on Charles Tyrie's map, but he missed out the Langley Free Church which was next door to Fuller, Smith & Turner Ltd off licence! These were just before you got to the Co-op and Mercers Newsagents & sweetshop further along. Then came the Red Lion pub, just before you got to Mrs Rhymes & Son, the fabulous bakers shop.

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Nov-2012
    there is nice photo of free church in google.1901 built 1977..with shops there.256 high st..fullers..slough library..source..lovely site.museum..lots lovely info and photos..any sketches of southall shops..north south sides...times gone by .can go on our photo boards//.tv.engrossed in europe rail with portilo..puppet show strings..vienna..sound music puppets.gt...as tv kids shows bbc 1950s...hunga... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Nov-2012
    Yes, there are a load of lovely old photos of Langley high street and Langley if you tap in Google "Langley woodyard" and then "Glazing 24 hours" etc. It gives the photos when the huge wood yard caught fire and burnt to the gound. This was next to "The Harrow" pub. We were all in the crowd watching it in disbelief!

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Nov-2012
    much in fo..on line...slough library museum...photos..william rhymes hand cart bakers...228 windsor rd....with changing names to..calling high st..langley....postoffice with post box outside..elmhurst.rd....free church became furniture store...sense of place..but list of all clicks..in google index....my morten stem of family of langley..section from north hyde southall..1911 langley...to recent t... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Nov-2012
    I particularly remember the Off-licence in Langley high street next door to the church, as when I was pregnant in 1957, after I had shopped in Slough, I used to pop in there for a small bottle of brown ale. I don't like beer, and have never drunk it since, but it had to be brown ale!
    I was always grateful that I hadn't asked my doc for any medication to stop the sickness, as that was when Thalido... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Nov-2012
    thalid....went to oz 1970...sydney..cousin who left southall 1957...on ship she made friends with large young family....baby boy had thalid...we drove through the gum trees..canberra..during night..visited them melbourne....she had lot of work to look after her dear little boy......beecham glaxo...when worked for the pharmaceuticals were so long and detailed care clinical trails.....german firm.te... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 16-Nov-2012
    Somebody told me yesterday (don't know if it is true or not) that Guinness have stopped doing bottles and its now draught or cans only

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Nov-2012
    brooklands racing 1920 .on the ramp..accidents deaths..turn over old racing cars......today on house of elliot tv..freeview 10..channel......just done uxbridge....free book...read pages in google..history of uxbridge......photo 1866 to 1970s pub...8 bells house of historic relics...was called..at greenline bus stop.....demolished area..of miss youngs painting...there east end of high st number 247... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Nov-2012
    Yes some very bad accidents Brooklands not just cars but aircraft to in the early days

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Nov-2012
    amazed to seeing filming for tv...there..costume of the 20s30s..and round the banking old car went..turn over......died...lots lovely filming there....my bridesmaid her dad..as kid his dad a dentist..took him to brooklands...30s..todays news bentley priory got lottery heritage money.....opens to public sept 2013.....harrow stanmore......lovely stained glass windows raf planes......plotting map...o... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Nov-2012
    Just finished reading a book on the bad treatment dished out to Dowding after he won the Battle of Britain written by a fighter pilot who was in the battle pilot officer Peter Brown called Honour Restored most interesting about all the back biting and double dealing against Dowding at the time of the battle

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Nov-2012
    1970 in his 80s..he died tunbridge wells..a scots man....ashes raf chapel westminster abbey his wifes ashes later there..great gratitude to him and raf,,..with embankment thames raf memorial and now new by ritz green pk huge memorial..will visit when see xmas lights regent st oxford st this yr...raf church opposite law courts..bomber harris outside...along..strand..aldwich...have been in couple ti... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Nov-2012
    Was born in Moffat

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Nov-2012
    books......the 2 bks by .irvine welsh...are in google..free reads turn the pages...free...born edinburgh 1958..lived greenford////spoke of red lion pub in book.........photos our board of rubble bulldozer boards around oct 2012....brewery said not viable high ground rates tax etc......welsh wrote skagboys and also....wrote trainspotting.........ewan mcgregor film 1996..likely lads to young men....... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2012
    reply from guiness today.......your request late fri but office not at weekend...........guiness extra stout in cans and bottles....only in bottles guiness foreign extra stout....draught guiness not in bttles.but in cans.....tony does not like those creammy cans funny cans inside gubbins........loads on uxbridge in google...dowding unveiled tall stone plaque ops room of war....2010 close raf band ... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Nov-2012
    Thanks Yvonne will follow it up

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2012
    thats ok..gunnesbury..lovely people there send me regular booklet..today exhibition kitchens opened..xmas days gone by displays etc......just found colour print hanwell bridge pre 1900 before widening ballastrade added for new trams....put 2 photos together compare .board47..greenford bridge brent yrs ago...and river brent there 1903 record level rain..boats sunk brent rver local..photo.....mile p... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Nov-2012
    75 words per minute....the quick brown fox....etc....last typewriter made today..uk....wrexham north wales..1873 to 2012....it goes to scirnce museum kensington..west london...display...last with the very first.....dormers school...type upstairs....old keys....then electric came in..golf ball.......typing tune song.....portable typewriter in handle case my cousin had at west ave southall.....ribbons...

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 20-Nov-2012
    Watching the BBC news item this morning about the last typewriter being made in Britain, it took me back to when I first sat at a typewriter(60 years ago!) at Dormers Wells Comprehensive and I left school being able to type at the magnificent speed of 28wpm with lots of errors. After three months in a Civil Service Training School in London, I could touch type at 40wpm almost error free and I was ... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 20-Nov-2012
    Ooh! I forgot to say that when in the Training School, the keys were covered so we couldn't look at our hands. A portable wind-up gramaphone was on the Tutor's desk playing (usually) Colonel Bogey or some similar piece of music and she used to hit the desk with a stick to emphasise the beat so we could type in rhythm. Such old-fashioned ways but it stood us all in good stead for our future careers.

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Nov-2012
    yes know of the rhythm music....typing pools...sling the carriage across...music....olivetti portable hard case handle...had a cardboard piece to cover the keyboard..to learn tying exercises.....those keys that jump up....then the golf ball......further down here....yesterday bryan martyn of northcote ave by norman rd put his memories and of haigh norman ave..as you spoke of..best wishes....think ... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Nov-2012
    queen 60 yrs married today for those who saw 11.30 am cinema film abbey wedding....2000 guests..1st monarch to reach diamond wedding.....ruislip parish church 1930s says queen mary visited...pitman..had typing courses....people went to colleges or london for ..courses...little brush clean those keys..put in new ribbons...hanwell library in todays gazette....£1million..renovation..like southall ca... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Nov-2012
    I remember the day our beautiful Queen Elizabeth, who was then Princess Elizabeth, and Prince Philip got married all those 65 years ago. I was working at the Car & General Insurance company in Ealing Broadway, and we were allowed to watch the film across the road in the Palladiun cinema as many times as we liked. We weren't allowed to have the day off though. Happy days.

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 20-Nov-2012
    I remember the typing classes at Western Rd Girls school Olivettie typewriters we were able to pick our own tune as a class we used Buddy Hollys Peggy Sue it was great fun

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Nov-2012
    yes they are calling it sapphire blue 65 yrs..charles 14 th,nov birthday about4/5 at coronation..royal variety last night so we will see on tv.....ealing broadway listed facade building council have given.owners aug oct this yr start build new cinema or lawyers...so long derelict...gazette says crossrail 2016 southall hayes..will be 25 mins to tottenham ct rd ...36 mins to canary wharf.....they ar... more >>

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Nov-2012
    Mum whent to Pitmans collage i think it was in West Ealing she keep her diplomas all her life, i think that would be in the 1920.

  • Re: A few months ago...................... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Nov-2012
    My mum also went to Pitmans College in London for shorthand and typing. Her aunt (who had been a companion to one of the Guinness family) paid for her. We used to compare our shorthand when I was older, but I learnt mine at Southall Grammar school at night school and was pretty good at it. Can't say the same for my typing, as we only had one lesson a week and I didn't have a typewriter to practice... more >>

 
fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2012
yes......george mary 1916 23 nov...south rd...was 1850 to 1930ish..marylebone school..poor of london..1915 to 1919..used as hospital.oz amputees.with harefield hosp...oz nurses..3302 treated 2508 straight from france..only 4 died..rehabilitation work skills..tennis at pk..southall..oz museum sent me photos southall and hospital etc....last yr........mr meads southall book photos.text...king visite... more >>   
  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2012
    bill.........couple yrs ago we have been the junction pub end..at brent rd....but street view 2008 ..in google..takes you along tow path...because..cars go to the corrages...bulls bridge rd.......1914 post offce directory in google.....the terraced cottages ..1st lot nearest junction pub....are 3/4 kings head cottages....lots pubs along there 1880s brickfields thirsty work.......priddle junction p... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2012
    phylis..............would probably know when kings head hotel pub.went....along from junction pub..bulls bridge rd..with..long rows cottages over the years going west.north side....my family morton wingrove there.........2008 in google character appraisal photos.kings head listed building......1899 walker publican..1914 was priddle.....old north star down bottom bridge regina rd.was 1899 hutchinso... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 5-Nov-2012
    Very many thanks for the responses to my postings. I must find time to research more. My Great Grandfather William Couch lived at North Star Row where my Grandmother Rose was born and later at Canalside where my Great Aunt Ellen (Nellie) was born. When I was a little un they lived at 99 & 103 Dudley Road. I still remember having to kiss my Great Grandfather through his whiskers, the dog under the... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2012
    yes straight in living rm from door so curtain..moustache fashion..my gdad etc....roy couch our member he is around 80yrs....here...ROY FAMILY>..horace and archie couch of him..southall green....years before 1900s and 1900s........horace..darts winners 3 tuns pub.southall team 1920s....archie horse wagon..united dairy ...tables by gem cinema......dudley ..kate of prince william..family came from..... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2012
    1911 census was free in google 3mths..ended day ago.........uxbridge reg district southall.........so 1911....born 1877 age 17..census reg dist brentford which was north star row parish heston..northhyde...............1911...9 william couch...uxbridge southall and brentford..northyde heston areas....living...free census index find past in google...........canalside..1911 onwards came under southal... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2012
    free in google....family search records held....free click arrow right scrolls info..under.....william j couch age 13 .1911...southall...b1898.........william couch..just born 1911...southall....also.....ancestry has them as well......genes reunited....has all records free also in google..............

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2012
    meant to put rose couch age 17..1911.uxb reg dist which was southall
    1914 free in google post office directory southall 1914 yrs...william john...couch..101 dudley rd.......and james couch 109,,dudley rd.......kates family lived dudley...in flat effect.... flat upstairs old place flat downstairs..goldsmith..edith worked ticklers brought up 6 kids there....goldsmith.1967 kates mum there.........wi... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 5-Nov-2012
    So much information. Many thanks. Ellen (Nellie) Couch lived at 99 Dudley road with her father and mother and stayed there after there deaths. She married Peter (Percy ) Dawson who worked on the railway. Rose Couch married Frederick Henley and lived at 103 Dudley Road. I never met Fred as he died in 1940 of an illness but I have a small notebook of his from WW1. I am currently transcribing his pen... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2012
    fred henley not on our memorial.for 1915 ..list southall green ..1st war ..in st john church...on our flickrsouthallboard54@yahoo.com.....photos...william dawson 1914..17 sussex rd...frank henly 48 waltham rd,,,,nearby....our family north star landlord 4 yrs france died wounds 1918 oct arras..4 brothers ackland he was from born uxbridge ..all died 1st war....nan wingrove brother blown bits arras..... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2012
    just noticed 1940 for fred.......but we went to menin gate of ypres..bugle about 8 pm daily...belgium school children......on our way to bruges holiday.....war memorial photos southall our board 1970 ish chamber commerce there..laying wreath...crowd.....board54 photos..white lion.pub...getting lots viewing...and tv cinema filming around..professionals..sweeney dr who etc.....lord wolsey 1950 pub o... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2012
    bill....................1950 film..cinema..bargee...harry h corbett.of tv steptoe.photo of crew.there filming bargee film..cameras bulls bridge....board50.our photos....another board. has harry on narrow boat at 3 bridges filming.....saw film it is good...also free on computer you tube to watch film.........

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2012
    ROY COUCH..our 83 yrs young member..1911 census still free on genes reunited...your photo our board50.and 52.gdad h.f. couch...king st hairdresser shaving 1902...1926 dad horace couch southall win darts 3 tuns pub.photo...uncle archie..horse wagon milk united dairy by gem cinema...photo..census .109 dudley rd...1911.still FREE IN GENES REUNITED GOOGLE...archie 10..horace 12.henry r 7..george 2..5 ... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2012
    lucky 1911 census still free at moment genes reunited in google....99 dudley rd...wife ellen 36...19yrs married..daughter nellie.age 13,,,daughter rose age 17 unemployed domestic servant...son richard couch age 12.....william john born 1874 age 37 in 1911,,at 99 dudley..stationary engine driver for gas works.....he was born 1874 delahole cornwall..cornish surname means red hair.........dairies of ... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2012
    roy............got the 1911 family ..your gdad at the hairdressing sahve shop 47 king st..1902....photo is also in mr meads book....harry fred age 14.there at shop living...lilian age 12....mary sophia age 10..tom george age 8..herb charles age 5..all born southall.....gwelin idris the son age 2 ,in 1911 there at shop number 47 king st..7 rooms....andrew leslie.age 2...albert age6..........couple ... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2012
    cant believe luck.....free census to everybody in google friends reunited....ROY.....CLICK RIGHT SIDE AND GET ALL IN ONE HOUSE.....YOURS...47 THE HAIRDRESSER SHOP ...TOBACCONIST..OF HARRY FRED HARDY...KING ST..19 YRS MARRIED..AGE 48..BORN BURY ST EDMUNDS SUFFOLK....wife catherine jane born.marylebone....age 42...7 kids alive 2 died...as was very common..most families......daughter katherine nevill... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 8-Nov-2012
    I am still absorbing the fascinating information that has been posted. Sadly, I only became aware of my connection to North Star Row recently and do not remember ever seeing the cottages. When passing through a few months back I found the building of the later North Star pub but now realise that the old one was elsewhere. I called in on Havelock Road Cemetery and found graves for Couch family memb... more >>

  • Re: fred asked reigning monarch visited southall.......and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2012
    yes time....is not easy........yes very much cornish name....means red hair....yes most modern people....think new north star was the one.....old north star near regina rd bridge 1800s to close demolish 1939....was brickfields next to them on the west...workers cottages all the censuses.....photo of them in mr oates book........cottages demmolished 1957ish......4 /6 sections families couch southal... more >>

 
Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 31-Oct-2012
Does anyone of our members have any knowledge of what went on there, I often used to see them when I was at the Hall either for Technical Drawing (part of the Hall was an annexe for Southall Grammar) or when attending a youth club back in the early to middle sixties.   
  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Oct-2012
    1950 cold war they had the bunker north side kings hall...photos derelict on our boards..later new beaconsfield primary school built on the site...onto south rd pavement..hedge front of school photo in google...heathrow.bunker.tunnel..7 photos bunkers local..in google..1950s cold war..civil defence.....

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2012
    very interesting in google..west london bunkers tunnels.1950s cold war..photos..northolt decontamination.place and hayes.....wandsworth...heathrow...southall south rd..is white door bunker by the school.tarmac entrance...hamborough primary school..newly built some yrs ago..along from kings hall...recent photos...in google..subterranean..civil defence 1950s...

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by penny (Member 10265839) on 1-Nov-2012
    Does anyone remember the shops in Western Road -starting from the Brent Road end- Ives the Newsagents, then next to Western Road Primary School- Mrs Keith's grocers (mother of Peter and Geraldine), then further along Watsons the Butchers next door to a grocers, with a greengrocers just opposite.
    Then further along, a parade of shops set back, including another grocer's (Leicester Stores?) and Mrs... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2012
    some rare old photos old western rd..are about.shops etc.....brent rd..now with the new primary school there on west side western rd..with featherstone boys school.stone high with soldier on top 1st war memorial.out front by fence by bus stop.....105 bus.junction pub and old oak still open.......new photos rec common..on southallboard54@yahoo.com.new oct 2012 set of 3 flats complex on regina rd no... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2012
    todays news..war carrier pigeon found chimney surrey..cigarette thin tissue code message..from..special operations executive..our spies in france.70 yrs ago.going back to bletchley pk..now the code is being dealt with by modern day gchq cheltenham.......red container.around leg.they flew 1 mile a minute....couple of them got medals..bravery saved lives.arrived back in uk..in extreme bad conditions... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 1-Nov-2012
    I remember the shops there was also a cobblers shop, Walters haberdashery and if I remember rightly Johnsons sweet shop and a greengrocers in the parade opposite Tachbrook Road. Further along on the otherside of the road was a shop called Baths which my Mum would always send me to get freshly cut ham and cheese. My friend Linda Harvey and I would go there on roller skates. In the parade between... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 1-Nov-2012
    I have just remembered Mullengers fish shop, where there would be live eels wriggling around in a box outside, and the really fishy smell which you could smell a long way away. I also think there was a scrap metal merchant along Western Road nearer to the King Street end.

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2012
    timber wood yard western rd near king st...flexman coaches...western rd girls school on west side between houses..when was it closed..when demolished..about 1980 perhaps...up near king st...what long road it was...there is film of the street in google by art student group..going along with huge bouncing eye//called ball..going whole legth of western rd...my family tree they were 85 western rd...ca... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 2-Nov-2012
    At the back of Western Road School there was a dry cleaners. A fence separated the playground from the cleaning premises and was covered in fluff. At the other side of the playground there were WW2 shelters that in my time were used for storing unwanted furniture etc. Adjacent to the school and to Ives shop at the front was Lady Jerseys Own 1st Norwood Southall Scout Hut (later burnt down and then... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2012
    best wishes..went to school with snelling girl..her brother went to.scouts there 1953...any names you heard of there 1962..arthur collins..mrs scott..mr wheeler..mr jubb..50yrs celebration they had 1962 from.start 1912/3.........our photo board54...new st john church ave..whole wall nice wood engraving..clock...names of 2nd war lost lives and 1st war ..parish of st john southall green...hahnenfeld... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 3-Nov-2012
    I remember those WW2 shelters at the back of Western Rd school and spent many hours there after the siren had sounded. I was there 1942-46 and we had to take our lesson books with us and carry on as normal until the all-clear. When we first started senior school we all had to take a packet of biscuits for the storage box - to be used if we got stuck down there unable to get out
    I wonder if they ... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 3-Nov-2012
    I believe that the shelters have all gone following the redevelopment of the whole site. Sadly the scout hut and church hall are also no longer there. I was in the cubs and the scouts and remember many winter evenings playing games and erecting timber trestles etc etc. I was brought up in Brent Road and that has also changed greatly. Large warehouses now stand where Ticklers had its yard for barre... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2012
    they talk of the gun in western rd and airraid shelter...nan lived next to old oak pub..walk.canalside..to junction pub.and brent rd for ticklers..her cousins from across the fields cranford lane came they worked 1914 yrs ticklers..war jam cans huge work at ticklers..nans family back to 1803 heston.norwood green fruit orchards mkt gardeners....nan moved north southall..the other side..ha...she wal... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 3-Nov-2012
    A great aunt of mine was born in 1898 at Canalside, North Hyde. I think that was near Bulls Bridge but would like to see a map of the time and perhaps a photo. My grandmother was born at North Star Row in 1894. Once again a map or photo would be very interesting as I cannot identify where the cottages were. The later North Star pub is now a Tesco Express. My grandfather started work in the brick f... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2012
    bill..snap snap...my gdad.akers and siblings born 1890 etc north star row number 5..his brother number 10.hackers ..couple spellings..by old noth star pub..demolished 1939.....new north star pub built further east at bend to fern lane..now tesco..this last couple yrs closed.....gdad father moved in brickfield worker 1870s......betsy charles....married heston church...came under parish heston...bri... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2012
    census north star each 10 yrs has names....what surname were they......1881 census free on google...numbers cottage row..terraced...2 up 2 down..often took lodger help pay rent...brickfields were next to them...on the corner bend....northhyde lane..from ..hump canal bridge spur dock...canal..could not afford to build more canal private there so used rail track instead...huge clamp...coal fire bric... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2012
    canalside....census image page you pay for...but gives neighbours and location of census man going along...tow path ..old dwellings..cottages.....from...norwood =bridge....to hump bridge ....to western rd bridge to bulls bridge........library sometimes has census view free on computer monitor screen......our social historian..local all his life mr raymond..his family north star row also...10 cotta... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2012
    the old north star photo our boards...white...long....tucked in corner at brickfield.s.....south of canal..on the open space golf now...right angle bend in northhyde lane along with pub..1830s built north star row..terrace 10 of them...many families each census..pulled down by ba..1957...number 10 gdads brother he put sweet shop into his front window yr 1900...down as grocer shop 1911....my canada... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by penny (Member 10265839) on 4-Nov-2012
    Yvonne, you have such a fount of memories. Is it possible that you could write a short history in pamphlet form for people to buy from you. It would be a wonderful asset for future social historians. Otherwise all these lovely memories of buildings-no-longer-there will be lost.

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2012
    over 3yrs reading.masses of stuff.in .google..library books ..records..census etc.tales from the family..etc etc....BUT need to claw back some of the massive lost time to catch up on loads vital jobs to do..no time to do more.,,54 boards photos etc....here...11 yrs this site of peoples memories etc..makes a book..here..these 11 yrs this site.....several people on our board here writing booklets f... more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Bryan Martyn (Member 10242855) on 19-Nov-2012
    There is a long history of Civil Defence there, underneath the old school (Marylebone) the CD communications rooms and switchboard for wartime rescue coordination. My mum worked down there always said it was haunted.

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2012
    the photos taken..modern times are..awful.inside.50s cold war bunkers...old derelict water..rust////photos on the sites in google..southall.now beaconsfield primary school..but door there in photo....off south rd........heathrow etc....lots photos in google of war ...decontamination gas centres radar .airraid...ruislip manor..still there brick tower...windmill.rd...pembroke......northolt ones........ more >>

  • Re: Civil Defence area at the side of King's Hall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2012
    yes that huge area of old marylebone school 1850 to 1930s....1st war used by australia soldiers nurses amputees..rehab.with harefield operations....limbs there..tennis they played..learned job skills..photos our boards ..of..all ..orphans poor kids from all london..to school...several hundred....marylebone at south rd..then they had some in london also.....photos front layed back ..wall hedge mans... more >>

 
new developments.....changes.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2012
10 months now building new bridge photo in google..splendid..opens..later..down from feltham middx..walton bridge thames..1st new road bridge thames in 20 yrs..since q eliz bridge thames.....of course 2 new footbridges..central london by st pauls and festival hall....photos...webbs furniture shop by himalaya palace cinema..1975 bought by asians.carpets.now biggest carpets west london..huge warehou... more >>   
  • Re: new developments.....changes.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2012
    you tube films in google..1940s 50s trolley buses...fim with nice quirky music shepherds bush to southall uxbridge....and film 100 yrs buses and trolleys....london middlesex hastings etc.......google has 2008 last comment on lady marg rd 447 opposite row shops..top north part...about the 40s 50s sprung floor dancing seagull pub...then saffron dor night club..then 2008 change name to thatch pub...l... more >>

  • Re: new developments.....changes.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2012
    happy october birthday cleo lane ..google photo with her son alec..looks so like his late dad johnnie dankworth..clementina dinah campbell of clarence st southall..dad jamaican.mum..minnie bullock of swindon....photo our boards she is little girl 3 of them in garden southall..martin bank 27 south rd 1969 ish became barclays.photo grasshopper hanging there.1944 mr mowbray there.corner hamilton rd..... more >>

 
clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2012
gingham check..bought yard off roll rouses .school primary check..pink red white.seniors basically navy skirt white blouse....or as chris said 50s stiff net petticoats under full skirts..new exhibition v a london...meaning characters image of clever clothes costume.cinema..dorothy wizard oz 16/17 yrs old garland bound tight ..to child person..kansss depression gingham cheap...washboarded scrubbed ... more >>   
  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Oct-2012
    Sorry Yvonne, but all one sentence and I don't understand it.
    Sorry. But I do know Rowse's of Ealing was spelled with a "W" and not a "U". I think it was F.H.Rowse

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2012
    as we spoke..1940s .war farm..excellent tv bbc tonight..then choir excellent ..keep it up..bbc........the local paintings..through the years...3 emails tonight..from locals who found them wonderful...friend wife sister cranford lane 40s..they liked tentlow lane to 3 bridges.painting splash at northhyde generations played there..also..mounds where wentworth rd built 1936....lots canal paintings....... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Oct-2012
    Remember mum talking of the water splash at North Hyde

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Oct-2012
    the paintings of the splash are lovely...my aunt 1914 and dad kids lived common north hyde canal...she played there....my friend cranford southall lane northhyde rd hayes...played there 40s 50s.he likes the paintings..done decades ago....australia newzealand x pats love them......splashlane there but lots houses built around..len lived there.quite a while.....splash the yeading brook coming down t... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Oct-2012
    putting photo later.....shops...king st..1953 years
    d langley worked.....hardy tv radio electrical...row was timothy whites /boots...tesco..coombes...hardy....hinton..co op...bakers..with toy shop in middle.....johnnies greengrocers....carnival kept by white swan...barn mission....down by bridge canal rspca.timber yard.....1947...famous abbots og high st and bees...at famous brit fair industry....in google....

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 21-Oct-2012
    Rowse's in West Ealing was a great department store. I remember going there with my sister and niece when I was pregnant with our first baby, and my sister bought all the cot linen for me. We then went over the road to a chemist and had our ears pierced - my sister, niece and me. Sounds odd now, but didn't seem it at the time!
    I've worn ear rings ever since.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2012
    it was age..20ish that had mine pierced.....my aunts always had the pretty little drop earrings...one unday visit....she did..one ear in bathroom..needle..oldfashioned way..but myself white green face she could not do the other....I did it during the night..wore gold sleepers .to work next day...no infection no trouble...but would not choose that way again....all the front row woodbine ..cottages ... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by terence patrick hewett (Member 10243212) on 21-Oct-2012
    Are the pictures by Ernest Ham of Southall online anywhere? Managed to locate one of the mounds at back of wentworth rd on flikr but that is all. Would like to see them all esp. watersplash lane.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2012
    in google......your paintings bbc........ernest a .l.ham....southall....and 7 artist in all southall and towns local...places views...through decades..what did you think of mounds and canal...ones......so many generations played mounds and splash.....rural....

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by terence patrick hewett (Member 10243212) on 21-Oct-2012
    Hi again Yvonne: which BBC website is that? there are so many of them.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by terence patrick hewett (Member 10243212) on 21-Oct-2012
    Found it.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2012
    good...under .....your paintings...in google.....hounslow library keep the oil watercolour paintings...their borough..nice osterley...etc...see who can recognise....the wall...estate agent .poster southall green......southall high st.would it be white hart and red lion...looking west......norwoodbridge old mill..and at night gas lamps/crowd.....norwood green farm......police pound on frognmore gre... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2012
    your paintings......says has option to print at home............painting hay wagon 2 horses.....spire on st mary virgin...norwood green....1200 very old church...problems over yrs age..small rural church victorians payed to ...restore etc..history several places in google..........ham....did some paintings from pictures he saw...........spire in painting not flat top...weather vane on top.....so w... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 21-Oct-2012
    Thanks Yvonne for the info on the paintings, I will look into that.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 21-Oct-2012
    The actual address for Ernest Ham if anybody wants to paste into their Browser is

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/artists/ham-ernest-a-l-18741958

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2012
    thanks ernest austin lucy ham..unusual...good luck zeta..wonder how much cost..and size...the boards .painted oils are less than a foot...held at local libaries....warm interpretation of local social history paintings oil of watercolour can be more pleasing than..rare photo or postcard of decades ago....if lucky photos were taken..luck of rare camera back then..when time I could easily ..sketch my... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 22-Oct-2012
    Hi I notice that you have comments on this subject from a Terence Hewitt and I am wondering if this is the Terry Hewitt that lived in Wentworth Road I think it was number 67 and had an older brother and sister Pat and Peter. I have looked ast the photos that you are talking about which bring back happy memories.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2012
    welcome jean .glad you like photos paintings..our boards..53 of them......mr hewett if you use index here..he has been on here several yrs...couple yrs ago...pages here he spoke of wentworth rd....with our member john w..of gone to san francisco.john family lived wentworth from 1st built 1937......best wishes....

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2012
    PHYLIS.....got the details painting..ham...st mary norwood green...spire tower..1st july 1896.earl jersey there ..opening new..tower there bells....old frail church...improved by victorians........ham painted of yrs 1890 1900 etc yrs...so he is remembering the old spire....now flat tower...belfry..they had to sort out heavy bells..wood.....stone..stength..victorians payed for improvements....your ... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 22-Oct-2012
    Thankyou Yvonne my parents also bought their house in Wentworth Road from new, and moved in with my sister born in 1936, my brother and I were born in the house and as many other people have we lost contact with those we grew up with.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2012
    my cousin was born 1936 in the house west ave..1935 to 1958 we were cousins the grandchildren...wentworth is ok today....but as ealing do everywhere...humps all along long rd..reduce speed.....john w..member was saying...border heston borough hounslow...so postcode..southall...then history as on parish heston land built.....our west ave hse built 1928 nan 1st to move in....gdad uncle ..worked grea... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2012
    southall park.26 acres..............1923 lake built...........photo board4...............of 1909 new park from burnt down dr boyd asylum.14 aug 1883 6 killed including boyd trying to save them..london gazette.article pictires..board 4 .clifton dudley schools,fatherstone hall..1935 demolished became dominion cinema..board4...

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2012
    denis....you spoke of shops southall green and horse trough......street view van camera going round..think summer 2008 approx....google.....the trough still there now...metropolitan.water.horse cattle fountains and troughs......one in middle duel carriageway..opposite viaduct..ealing hospital...one heston village opposite church....southall green photo trough board 43..page 1...with telephone box.... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Oct-2012
    I well remember that old Horses' water trough over the Green, Southall on Page 1 of Southallboard43. In fact, it reminded me of the time when one of the boys we were walking with had a drink out of it as he was so thirsty. That's something that I always remember that we were often dying for a drink of water when we had been out all day. No plastic bottles of water in those days. It was always wors... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2012
    yes we played on the roundabout and horse.......think was witch hat there also..seemed to titch me..huge high hot metal..slide...trough outside heston church..last couple yrs.volunteers photos work there full to brim.with polyanthums..gt colours yellow red.all bright colours...think this 2008 southall green one on walking pavement went.to duel carriageway middle at viaduct uxbridge rd..photo we ha... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Oct-2012
    Yes, the Witch's Hat was there, but we just called it the big Roundabout. I rarely went on that as the boys made it go so fast it became dangerous! They used to rock it!

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2012
    yes was going to say the danger of rock it...and swings..if they went making to try and send them up too high....soft pad ground rubber health safety today...but side temple of the head with knock was worry...shiny high metal slide........3 different views now of sub station...in detail door...windows boarded old roof..red brick dilloways..on board43 etc....6 ...has got houses road wentworth and ... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2012
    denis.....you spoke of trough near dilloways.......photos couple different troughs southall areas...on boards.......6/7/8..etc....bottom bit liitlle stone tray for dogs they say....1890 metropolitan society..troughs cattle horses everywhere.....hanwell bridge oppsite viaduct...one now.2012 ..opposite new ealing hospital....broadway photo ripolin wall paper paints..top alexandra ave snooker....corn... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 25-Oct-2012
    Regarding the opening of the Dominion my parents often spoke of being there, it was something of a highlight to them. They were very young and coming to the end of their first year of marriage aged 19 and 21. They always held Gracie Fields with the greatest affection.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Oct-2012
    Jean-I was also at the opening perfotmance of the Dominion-do you know what year that was?

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Oct-2012
    Thanks Yvonne yes remember small trough for dogs i think theres an inscription on the trough must look & take a pic next time im in Southall

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Oct-2012
    There was a cast iron enameled drinking fountain in Spikes Bridge park nr, the swings & slide ect. for many years, seems to have vanished in the 1960s i think it was light blue/gray must have dated back to the opening of the park itself

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 25-Oct-2012
    micheal:- Yvonne had put it down as October 1935 which would be about the right time although I was not aware myself of the exact date

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 25-Oct-2012
    I was always under the impression that the big store in Ealing was `Rowses`. Just shows how time distorts one`s memory.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2012
    jean...ha just got in..ha...did quick reply.so tired gt day out.rush hr traffic back though ..ha.....put.reply JEAN in down next one..ha......great day out we had car...so hold on to your hats...changes......white hart greenford rd by was prefabs..empty.pulled down..boards..over 10yrs..must be....today..nearly finished office or flats;;whole large site.....redlion closed...taylor woodrow by canal.... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2012
    ROY...........ROWSES WEST EALING NORTH SIDE.......EALING BROADWAY SANDERS...BENTALLS....BIG STORES....LIKEd WEST EALING ALL IN ROW BHS...M AND S woolworths daniels...north side...xmas father xmas grotto rowses.......toys.....etc..huge store so many yrs.....gren man pub..pulled down few yrs ago...historic pub.....

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Oct-2012
    Thanks Jean-I would have been 7, so would have gone to the Dominion with my mum and dad.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2012
    len 1925 would have been 10...watched in crowd tore trousers on railings st anselm school area manor hse....jean did.reply...but just in day out tired...put at down.....next....place down..in red there.....oct 14 1935.....several nice articles in google.......photos our boards..6//7//8//and to 53 boards flickr photstream...3 yrs work there now..photos..text...memories nostalgia southall and local..areas...

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2012
    denis....inscription..granite...metropolitan drinking fountain and cattle trough....shows better on our outside heston church photo board....google has lots on them and photos....mr meads says southall high st had one going near lady marg rd...opposite.dilloways and gem southall green..1859 started london..1877 loads about........extra photos substation elect.on our boards around back.......uxbrid... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2012
    jean and all......put my reply to you next section down.........denis las of series tonight 7pm.....it is gabby polish usa pilot spitfire....northolt 1943.......southallboard54@yahoo.com.......flickr photostream.photosharing..in google......ten pin bowling wimpey front bar..slogan..come in dont be miserable and get.FED up....lady marg rd post office ..by alley..was martin sweets....sheep out front... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Oct-2012
    Thank you Yvonne what side Polish Spit at 7 please, see also last Battle of Britain pilot died this week

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2012
    YES HE WAS IN LATE 90S LOVELY PERSON HEARD HIM SPEAK...GT PEOPLE..GRATITUDE...CHANNEL 5 ..7PM,,,WAS YESTERDAY WATCHED...REPEAT TODAY...AMAZING FIGHTER..ACE POLISH..FOR HIS POLISH FAMILY AND FATHER LAND..NORTHOLT 1943.....POST OFFICE LADY MARG RD OUR ..54 BOARD PHOTOS...AND SHEEP AT LADY MARG SCHOOL......PROBABLY 60S....ETC..LOTS PHOTOS OSTERLEY OUR VISIT THIS WEEK THERE AUTUMN COLOURS SERVANTS BEL... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Oct-2012
    Thanks, had my post office savings account at Lady Marg. post office still got my book

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2012
    yes little bks they were....photo ...shows alley right side at post office...but gates blocked now most alleys are.....stop..wrong people getting round back....inside osterley house this week autumn trees..exhibit filming 60 or so..tv cinema..there diana dors film 2012 batman..cedars trees pond ...deb kerr film.....huge maps on walls...lord jersey owning so much land..southall green dormers..hesto... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Jack (Member 10165328) on 26-Oct-2012
    Denis - I hope you don't mind me pointing this out, but that Battle of Britain pilot was not the last one to die - he was the oldest at 99. There are still something like 60 younger ones left alive.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2012
    new museum opened this year contact for tour..open to public...rooms at present polish..war.raf..northolt airport...photos in google of displays..also.new ...cleaned....huge polish memorial..western ave 2 yrs ago unveiled..huge shiny eagle on top....photos new.in google...over 60yrs..very interesting...most yr red white huge displays there ..pond..squadron names all around..... duke kent there eve... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 27-Oct-2012
    Thank you Yvonne for the info via Zeta.
    War Farm should be interesting as my sister was in the Land Army in Devon & I would visit each summer school holidays.

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2012
    gt to hear you RON ..lots of love to the family..still have gt group photo..warfarm should be on the computer bbc...iplayer..free...one of the best things they have done and 1950 midwives on their bikes...bbctv so real today..interesting and entertaining..funny..and marvellous people in it..my cousins heston were land army war2.....she said the work was extremely hard..but they had come from mkt ... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Oct-2012
    Thanks Jack my mistake

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Oct-2012
    I felt really sad when the last episode of Wartime Farm finished on BBC2 this week. It wasn't until you saw them all walking away from the farm (after their 1945 celebrations) that it brought you up with a jolt that they were only acting it all out. Ruth Goodman as a social and domestic historian, and Alex Langlands and Peter Ginn, the Archaeologists. At least we csn still watch all the Episodes 1... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2012
    YES WILL WATCH AGAIN TODAY 5.15 BBC2....LOVELY UNIVERSITY PEOPLE.PRESENTERS..SO THRILLED TO GET AWAY FROM THEIR BOOKS..AND LIVE IT THEMSELVES..BRINGS IT SO TRUE ..GREAT HUMOUR AMOUNST THE HARDSHIP.COSTUME..FARM EQUIPMENT..LOST OLD SKILLS...WHICH WE WOULD HAVE TO RESTORE TO USE IF WE LOOSE MODERN..LIFE A BIT........WISH WE COULD HAVE HAD THESE SORT OF PROGRAMMES IN THE 1960S 50YRS AGO..OUR AUNTS GR... more >>

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Oct-2012
    I see the air historical branch archives have moved to Northolt from Queen Annes gate

  • Re: clothes 50s40s etc..local.shops material rouses west ealing.school.GENERAL by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2012
    yes ..so proud of northolt..1912 proposed may 1915 .1919...years..started planes....polish records held there.services own post office there and queens flight..all started there in last few yrs..huge open wide areas now entrances two..gates...gun patrol started with ira ,,now terrorism...plane spotters..1920s30s hanworth middlesex also....bought by hotel now .mall admiralty arch just plan pass by ... more >>

 
canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Oct-2012
todays national news..english heritage...canal repairs...hanwell locks £90000 in the coming yr lock gates..date at gate 1888 refurbish...some gates other parts have 1914 repair year..wood...last 10yrs .government money payed for annual..cleaning ...tow paths etc etc...which looks splendid..lots waterfowl fish etc but recession now.....staines and boulters maidenhead with splendid metal gates..au... more >>   
  • Re: canal.....and general by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Oct-2012
    Yes, it will look splendid. There is more heritage than realised with the Grand Union, and I can clearly remember the barge traffic ending almost exactly 50 years ago. Martin Brothers used the canal to prevent damage to their pottery ware as once it was on the barge, it was a smooth journey to London (that is why they moved to Southall) as the roads were so bad, anything going by road could hav... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Oct-2012
    Nice to hear some of old Middx being restored instead of demolished (Sipson)

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Oct-2012
    glad you liked the news......pauline just received post/wartime farm 1943 years...excellent booklets ..can ask several copies....use email...gave you..here......free..so attractive colourful..full info..lovely..presentation..last night episode loads in it ..interesting and fun..her flour sack red check dress..kids..honey sandwiches..the tractor scoop and tie bales hay from grass graveyard..pence c... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Oct-2012
    Wonderful news about canal repairs. As we lived in Bankside in 1936, I have some lovely memories of the Grand Union canal. I was five years old, but can remember as if it was yesterday the sound of the barges chugging along at night. I would jump out of bed when I heard the chugging, to see the barge with its lights on. The magnificent shire horses used to pull their heavy cargo along in the dayti... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Oct-2012
    It's strange Yvonne that you mention "Wartime Farm" again and the booklet available. As I have had problems in contacting the OU on line. I have today just phoned them on 0845-366-0257 (local rate). You just have to leave your nsme and address They say "please allow up to 28 days for delivery." After watching the 6th series last night, I made up my mind to get the booklet!! One thing which I had n... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Oct-2012
    yes so interesting pharmaceutical company..that sticky weed plant they collected so much of it process for infection use..more money if collect the other one...back to bygone days of..natural hedgerow wild plant remededies...just used the email again..for hist wales..yes month and booklets arrive.....get few copies gt for kids shool..illustrated so well....curriculum..several yrs now..1sy 2nd wars... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Oct-2012
    I think it was the Foxgloves which were the most expensive plant used for medicinal purposes. I always remember as a child we were told about Deadly Nightshade, Laburnum and Foxgloves which were poisonous. There was a large Laburnum tree in the garden of one of the private houses in Northcote Avenue, and the branches were overhanging very low. We were always told not to touch it or the berries!

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Oct-2012
    yes have healthy careful knowledge of nature and poisons...elderberry..wild about..tonys dad with concorde going over 4pm regulairly..had his old shed homemade wine..that thatch..nettles pick when whole root long comes up...lay flat with the .pegging...and great roof...keep turning drying herbs etc in shed then sell it for medicines..so much in an hour...bees in the foxglove great flowers..bare ha... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Oct-2012
    Yes, Denis, I agree. There is so little left
    Interesting few photos of Heath Row village pre-1935 still exist and to think all Middlesex was like that 100 years ago

  • Re: canal.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Oct-2012
    Keith i remember going to Heatrow trough Cranford all farms & market gardens the remains of Heston aerodrome What a lovely county we all grew up in

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Oct-2012
    always keep that large field open..by queens head pub cranford..fullers still open...we pulled up car watched concorde last flights there...open spaces around airport kept to help pilots....week now hard work..trying to get links family tree..online records.mkt gardeners..cranford lane northhyde..etc...nans uncle mkt gardener left huge probate 1937 heston wingrove..those who did the mkt runs and h... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Oct-2012
    Re I-T COULD IT BE INTERNATIONAL TEA CO. or INTERNATIONAL STORES?

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Oct-2012
    you are marvellous............thanks so much..grateful...yes you hear of them..all yrs..I-T.in huge letters on packets..war yrs...opie is good many yrs now museum packaging .....yes you will like the booklet photos..board 16 got photos....they are all pleased with tudor rd infants across to juniors photos.....1955 yrs .although..some..talk of .southall before yrs.......prefab hut..nap.....we also ... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Oct-2012
    google has it.....yes...slogan...greatest grocers in world..london based..international tea co ltd stores kearley tonges....became somerfield eventually......our series photos of changes..west corner of alexandra ave.....street view hot july day camera van sunny.has.co op on the corner.2008 ish.......photos later gateway there..then somerfield....oh..have just put photo on...proposed redevelop of ... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Jack (Member 10165328) on 14-Oct-2012
    Hello.all. I have just rediscovered this site which I have not visited for years. I used to live in Western Road Southall as a boy and I remember my mum pushing me in my pushchair to see the water rats, as she called them, in the canal many times. I used to play football in the rec and went to school at Featherstone Road infants and juniors and then Southall Grammar school. My sister, who is 8 yea... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Oct-2012
    welcome jack...105 bus stop still just before brent rd and junction pub of bridge over..we took 105 to heathrow......bus stop has new primary school there with featherstone rd boys war memorial with soldier statue on top by fence...western rd school girls gone now.....couple of our members dads were buses driver conductor........southall garage opposite asylum and hanwell high st garage..trolleys...

  • Re: canal.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Oct-2012
    We also sang a little prayer before the bell went, and we went home in the afternoon from Tudor Roaad Infants School.

    Hands together, softly so. Little eyes shut tight. Father just before we go. Hear our prayer tonight, Amen. I still remember the tune.

  • Re: canal.....and general by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Oct-2012
    Welcome back Jack. Stay on our bus!

  • Re: canal.....and general by Jack (Member 10165328) on 15-Oct-2012
    Thanks for welcoming me to your site. It's got me thinking lots about the past now, I hope I don't bore you all!
    My paternal grandad was born in Acton Green in 1875, but his parents and siblings were in Featherstone Road Southall soon after that I believe. My paternal grandmother came from Shropshire and I think travelled to Southall by boat. She is recorded as living at Norwood Locks on their ma... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2012
    wondered how the shropshire women travelled all yrs 1800s to northhyde etc....my aunt born 1914 there knew jane cotton..came to pick fruit..annually but stayed...100s came every yr.orchards mkt gardening.harvest work..lived in huts....southall heston..transported veg fruit for.for the london mkt.hay for london horses brought back manure canal.......canals cheap way for workers travel...and my fami... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Oct-2012
    Jack-I was most interested to read that your dad was a driver on the 105 route.My dad was a conductor and for much of the war years and after he was on the 120 route.He retired in 1954.
    Good to have you aboard.

  • Re: canal.....and general by Jack (Member 10165328) on 15-Oct-2012
    Yes, dad was on the buses for quite a few years after working for EMI in Hayes for about 20 years. He used to take me out in his delivery van full of records in the summer to give mum a break. Then he qualified as an RAC and MOT driving instructor and tried that, but ended up back with London Transport at Uxbridge Road bus garage. He retired as an instructor on the buses at Chiswick. There was a l... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2012
    ROY COUCH OUR MEMBER..his family southall green many yrs..3 tuns pub darts.had hardy shop in king st....united dairy by the old electric sub station dilloways..by old gem flee pit cinema.most moved out by 1970.....for yr now new huge open entrances northolt airport..old guards hut small narrow entrance gone...huge models hurrican spitfire on display...new museum open to public..has polish war disp... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Jack (Member 10165328) on 15-Oct-2012
    My aunty Nellie who lived with us used to clean the scout hut just up the road, I think it was in Western Road. Does anyone remember it burning down one night? I vaguely remember going out and watching the fire with Dad. Must have been sometime in the early 1960's. So that was the end of the cleaning job. Nellie used to take me in the hut and let me bash away on an old piano they had in there whil... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Oct-2012
    Welcome aboard this site and the Denis & Keith aircraft spotters club we did the same in the 50s, i also lived in Lady Margaret Road

  • Re: canal.....and general by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Oct-2012
    Yes, I was at "LAP" for the only recorded of a Sud_Est Armagnac (in 1958) I think
    Over the last couple of years, a couple of threads have morphed into aircraft spotting threads from those days

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2012
    think.....pauline mike phylis denis keith jack..all...in google.might like the bbc site...paintings southall norwood green 83 by ernest a ham...on line..paintings many yrs southall library ..now held at ealing library...oils.depict.king st high st south rd norwood rd....nation put paintings of the country on line now...he painted about 30 yrs round streets with his easle western rd etc..station...... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Oct-2012
    Thanks Yvonne will have a look if i can find

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2012
    in google...your paintings...bbc....ernest ham..southall..73....western rd..canal...oak pub..junction.pub..bridge northhyde...viaduct .3 bridges..station 1941 painted...guage there......1900yrs out with easle ..he painted...died 1958 southall...mr meads knew him.......dad was ham..clerk wks joel.....he 1890 organised build of norwood green police station...6 kids....1881 free census.....1911 censu... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Oct-2012
    Thank you Yvonne for the 73 lovely pictures of "Ernest A.L.Ham Southall 73". I haven't seen the whole 73, but the ones I have seen are beautiful. Have also found 165 Paintings by him Under "Ernest A.L. BBC".I can't remember if he was born in Southall?

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2012
    born bere regis dorset...dad travelled hamps gosport..devon..shropshire ern was 1881 6yrs old there then to southall.....your paintings....held ealing libray...5 pages..loads each page..enlarge ..oils...hanwell west ealing ealing broadway 1950s as well.......very attractive....so few hundred there..online.....ham...his dad had 5 kids....joel the older son..is still local also .marries etc......dad... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Jack (Member 10165328) on 16-Oct-2012
    Crikey Yvonne, where do you get all your information? I am just looking at some Southall pictures on Flickr - Southall Board 17, its fascinating I must say.

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2012
    jack..sp pleased you like......53 boards photos.....this new google site...your paintings bbc around the country...from libraries etc..is good in google....few hundred oil paintings...canal..yr 1900 flat barges cargo..horses on tow path........glad you like photos 3yrs work.......put click.comments on any it adds to the interest memories nostalgia..all yrs of photos.....google has pictures new sou... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2012
    pauline.......on the right you see the other local artists ...if you click on ham...you just get ham.........wallace..the lady is so skilled ealing.clever beauty work done by her.......about 165 local paintings.artists.all local towns.......ham did the canal ones yrs 1900s..local..... and antony dracup..did local paintings....there......ealing library sold some at bonhams huge value.........bequea... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2012
    MANY PAINTINGS ARE at local libraries.....ealing...or uxbridge or hounslow...slough langley also there....king queen at bombed war perivale medway drive.6 killed........librarian in google writes...july aug 1940 350 bombs hit west london...ealing sept 1940.jul aug..sanders store photos our board flattened....165 paintings borough ealing .73 by ham......williams painting 1995 grove house north rd..... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Oct-2012
    The lovely painting by Ernest Ham of The Three Bridges reminded me of the walks my dad used to take us down Windmill Lane, and the first time he showed us the three bridges. We also used to walk past The Aviary along by a high brick wall, and we would hear the sound of birds twittering on the other side. I have a lovely tale in my brother's autobiography when he did some work in the holidays for C... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2012
    yes love to read.....thankyou...sultan brunei...another owner aviary high wall windmill lane at bend.,..villa hse..swim pool ..aerial photos etc...inside open gates hse on our photos...earl jersey estate osterley pk....painting 3 bridges steam train..colour horse rope tow barge ..hay wagon on road.horse...clever brunel he died little while afterwards...paintings 1900s years flat wide barges on can... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Jack (Member 10165328) on 17-Oct-2012
    When I was about 11 years old, my uncle Danny, who was a builder of sorts and lived in Greenland Crescent, took me along to help him lay a new flat roof on the sikh temple that was in Havelock Road at that time. He gave me some pocket money and I guess it got me out of mums hair for a while in the summer holidays. They used to put indian food in baskets on a rope and we would pull it up and eat it... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Oct-2012
    Great to have you on the site Jack. I lived in Langley, Bucks from 1956-1972 and was in and out of Slough with my family, walking and shopping, and travelling on the GWR, then driving. Like everywhere else, Slough and Langley have changed a great deal since those days, but I still have some lovely memories.

  • Re: canal.....and general by penny (Member 10265839) on 19-Oct-2012
    Interested to read the mention of the corner shop owned by Mrs Keith. I too went to school with her daughter Geraldine, first at Western Road, then at Southall Grammar. Before they owned that shop, they used to live at Canteen Cottages off North Hyde Lane.
    Does anyone know the whereabouts of Barrie Mead who went to the same schools and lived in Leamington Road with brother Keith? Not on Friends Reunited.

  • Re: canal.....and general by Jack (Member 10165328) on 19-Oct-2012
    Hello Penny. You may know my sister then - Christine Taylor? She lives in Norfolk now, has 3 grandaughters?

  • Re: canal.....and general by penny (Member 10265839) on 20-Oct-2012
    I do remember the name Christine Taylor, but cannot put a face to the name.........will keep on trying to dredge up a memory! Other names include Carole Tolmie, Ann Birch, Wendy Sutherland, Jean Webb, Hilary Scott(Derley Road), Lesley Twist, Janet Perryman, Marilyn Sharland, Linda Harvey(Wentworth Road), Deirdre Graves, Barrie Mead(Leamington Road), Roy Rowbottom(Brent Road) Paul Benson, Roger Ros... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2012
    best wishes ..we knew chidley family..quite large..before at mount pleasant by old oak pub.canal..nora etc chidley family...the when we moved by heston church met the 2 sisters again 1970..nora.chidley..and her large family..northhyde...would have been southall green also.think clarence st................rowbottom we knew well west ave areas southall..mr thompson...here....is of them....LOTS on sh... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by penny (Member 10265839) on 21-Oct-2012
    Can someone please tell me exactly what I have to do to get to see all the wonderful sounding paintings on the internet? I can't find them!!

  • Re: canal.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Oct-2012
    Hi Penny. Just tap in "Ernest A.L. Ham BBC" in Google, and the titles will come up for you to view the beautiful pictures.

  • Re: canal.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Oct-2012
    You can also tap in "Ernest A.L.Ham Southall 73".

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2012
    yes..he paainted them around yrs 1900....out in all weathers with his easle....mr meads writer of southall knew him...painting..southall green norwood green...canal....south rd southall high st...some he did from postcards...we have many postcards on our board...you can see how he painted from them.....but snow norwwod green famous pond that was filled in later...famous rows elm trees killed by d... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2012
    phylis........you will like norwood green canal .woodbine 1900years of our families....gt bbc tv country tracks weekly...norfolk.....fred spoke og like....over wilfs mothers...the weather .rain...but my aunt uncle southall..lots of expressions..southall london and cockney......years heard fred say ....over wilfs mothers...etc....tv also reed..for thatch ..lovely norfolk broads..but war bbc tv..sho... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 21-Oct-2012
    I've just looked at all those wonderful paintings by Mr Ham. We've got framed copies of one or two of them in our home; Tentelow Lane and North Hyde Bridge. I remember St Mary's church bought some as a retirement pressie for Revd Lawrence when he retired. One was St Mary's Church and I think another was The Plough.

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2012
    lovely oils warm..others ice snow..hounslow library has the ones ham did of over at heston parish areas..splash etc......ealing library the others of 73..white northhyde bridge there.western rd..the old brown narrow one at oak pub regina..,,,,..top lock....st mary and pub..lovely...zeta here newzealand wants buy,,print or anything...where did you get yours..ealing southall library..or new site yea... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2012
    roughly how much were they phylis...ham did..
    board under foot size oils......what size were your gift ones......thanks...also...zeta...asked wants buy some...post to newzealand........he did several from postcards....stay home paint...but mr meads knew him said he was familiar sight southall..with ihis easle and paints......southall library bequeath ..they gave them to borough ealing local histo... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by penny (Member 10265839) on 22-Oct-2012
    Have found the Ham paintings. They are beautifully painted and wonderfully evocative. Does anyone know if they are reproduced in book form, or even as postcards or calendar which would be available to buy?

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2012
    he painted some of them from old postcards...he walked streets southall 1910 years painting....ebay has some southall and local places...to buy..postcards..local history bks on line and libraries sell bks full of photos through decades and local wh smiths shops have.....your paintings...site....read..see if it says.....can print off...or get prints etc from them....ask library who has the original... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2012
    the january family tree on sale dec 2011..has calendar...october has ham..southall station 1910 in rain...night...have it on my wall....ham paintings are not in books..ealing library has them 73......for public to view....donated bequeathed to southall ealing library at his death 1958...with 7 other local artists bequeaths......yes lovely..rare to get images of past decades..pity we were not all o... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2012
    open long hours daily....ealing local.social history library..has huge selection...photos postcards etc..southall and local areas......to see........all through yrs......the ham paintings they have 73...plus others...are small..oil on board less than foot size....watercolours......1958..they have had them....54 yrs now....this last year they have gone on line for everybody and abroad to see ..whol... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2012
    PENNY YOUR REQUEST ON SHORT PAGE...TODAY....INFO PUT THERE FOR YOU TODAY....BEST WISHES...

  • Re: canal.....and general by penny (Member 10265839) on 23-Oct-2012
    Thanks. I meant to put it on this page so that more people would see it. So, just to recap - information on Wentworth Road area and North Hyde Docks. Plus does anyone remember the Saltmarsh family who lived at the top of Wentworth Road in an older house with huge orchard garden? Children Jeffrey, Alan and one other boy. I used to babysit for them with my friend Linda Harvey.

  • Re: canal.....and general by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 23-Oct-2012
    Hi Penny I remember the Saltmarsh family, was the other boy named Stephen? Linda and I also took the two younger boys out a lot especially Jeffery mainly to the rec' and walks to the shops in King Street. I also remember the family that lived in the house before them they had three children John the eldest and twins a girl whose name I think was Anne I can't remember the boys name the surname was ... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Oct-2012
    our local history social historian all life..has done docks
    mounds etc etc
    gave you most info.....on short page diagramms maps 3 yrs work in google...reaearch.....photos etc.......1797 new canal cut there...1805.gunpowder napolionic wars 1847 jesuit priests 400..more poor boys from all london .docks.there barrack way..orchards farm kids tended...age 12 lots shipped of canada slave labour..1914 m... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Oct-2012
    meant to say mr raymond..study work..lifetime work..........and ealing hounslow libraries uxbnidge prob as well..loads info there penny......

  • Re: canal.....and general by terence patrick hewett (Member 10243212) on 23-Oct-2012
    Hi Jean, yes it is Terry from number 67. Pat is alive and well and living in Ruislip. Peter died some years ago in Lymington Hants, funeral attended by most of 5th Southall boy scouts and families. I remember the Selley family I used to knock around with their son John Selley the one with the pony. Alan Duffy at number 77 is also alive and well and living in Middlesbourough.

  • Re: canal.....and general by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 23-Oct-2012
    Hi Terry good to hear from you sorry to hear about Peter. George and June both live in Buckinghamshire and have children and grandchildren George has a greatgrandchild. I have three children and five grandchildren. I remember cricket on the green outside your house where Mrs Perks would hide behind her curtains and yell at anyone who dared to go near her garden. You will remember we lived at numbe... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2012
    PHOTOS WENTWORTH RD number 208 etc.BOARD6...PORCH HOUSES NORTHCOTE AVE..FRITH PHOTOS SITE..LIKE MOST PEOPLE MEMORIES PLAY MOUNDS..THERE,,JIM SEANEY.old disarmed machine gun war there and old airraid shelter..he.went local school.s...photos school s ..etc our boards...north hyde dock typed in google has our 1st board pictures dock.etc pages there..think.john w..our member spoke of scrumping..fruit ... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2012
    lovely....info...yes gracie oct 14 1935...back couple yrs our site here len tore his trousers on manor hse railings...watching.it.and gracie...crowds there.....ballroom cinema sat morn pictures and ron brewer of charity donkey took kids there........google gazette said she made frequent visits...well she was in film at southall film studios gladstone...rd..southall green..before it burnt.down...cl... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2012
    jean..photos today wentworth rd...old house area by northhyde bridge regina...photos new flats.there in its place.....canal oak pub...rec..etc.....will sort out later...gt day out osterley in house etc..for day ......fantastic so very much there....splendid......everybody should go for day out..........autumn colours gt trees etc....

  • Re: canal.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Oct-2012
    I felt really sad when the last episode of Wartime Farm finished on BBC2 this week. It wasn't until you saw them all walking away from the farm (after their 1945 celebrations) that it brought you up with a jolt that they were only acting it all out. Ruth Goodman as a social and domestic historian, and Alex Langlands and Peter Ginn, the Archaeologists. At least we csn still watch all the Episodes 1... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2012
    1945 celebrations and they spoke of far east burma etc..wait for vj.....so strong the lads...muscles a lot dont have today..no use in many jobs..and she,,well puts so many of us to shame...lovely strong and can put her hand to everything..she did the house victorian through the yrs.also..costume...clever lady...her 2 daughters came on..and they changed back into modern clothes jeans etc.....new id... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 29-Oct-2012
    Yvonne... can you tell me how I can access the photos on Southall Boards I was able to view the Ham photos but do not know how to get the others. Thank you for any help that you can give me.

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2012
    jean..ham paintings..in google....type.ernest ham..your paintings..bbc......75 there and 7 other painters there,,local..areas also.....paintings on show at hounslow library and ealing library...sure uxbridge probably has some too...they are donated by artists.......our board photos.....in google ..southallboard54photostream,,,,photosharing.........www.southallboard54@yahoo.com.........53/52/51/etc... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2012
    meant to say....flickr.is the photostream photosharing...11 pages each board..
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/89207625@N06/
    ....today ..tv ..and filming...southall photos...sweeney bodie doyle..gordon jackson..straight demolished white lion...pub..gas wks..jo lumley.purdey there....mystery ghost between two topiary trees front of manor hse gardens by pond martinware ftn,,,over west side by dominio... more >>

  • Re: canal.....and general by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 30-Oct-2012
    Thank you Yvonne I have managed to access the photoboards.

  • Re: canal.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2012
    good so pleased ..let us know if problems.....quick to go between...just click..other user then..put in 53/52/51/50/etc..sign in......your computer memory .keep signed in will auto show all the boards in list.......great to see white lion.pub..gone.now....western rd just got my 1911...morton..blenheim terrace..but ancestry I took 3 days my trying index..12 letters to them and today...they found un... more >>

 
Ford family 1965-2000 by Dee Ford (Member 10268189) on 3-Oct-2012
Looking for memories of Dennis & Ellen Ford, formerly of Brandon Road.

Dennis was often known as Ginger or Kenneth, and Ellen as Elsie. Dennis died in 1974 and was an Engineers Toolmaker, Elsie was a nurse, of Irish origin.
  
 
"On the panel" by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 24-Sep-2012
When I was a child in the fifties I used to hear "he/she's on the panel" the meaning of which I took to be under the doctor but does anyone know the derivation of the phrase?

I have had a quick look on Google but the answer was not forthcoming. I certainly never hear it anymore, although I did hear it the other day on a radio programme about the life of Irene Handl.
  
  • Re: by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 25-Sep-2012
    Sorry, that should read 'derivation'. I wish one could edit on this site but I'm afraid once it's posted you can't do anything.

  • Re: by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 25-Sep-2012
    Hello the madness has set in, it was correct in the first place, I just misread it.

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2012
    yes always heard that in 50s ..later dont hear it..each gp has list of how many patients he has at his area...nhs..allows him..not go over certain number...often now several doctors in one practice....but sure one of our members here will know.......schools it has to be catchment area..have to go..selected school so many mls not allowed to be out of area..or if school full..to 2nd choice......bu... more >>

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2012
    in google...under nhs wikipedia......each gp....had list panel....those who had contributed out of their wages..national insurance stamps...to qualify.nhs doctor......google has more ..panel...at oz and new zealand....state funded doctors.on the panel.......people on the panel..allowed a panel. a list of those who pay nhs insurance state contributions free health care........or private doctors....... more >>

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2012
    PRESUME...STRICKEN OFF THE PANEL.doctors list patients..IF NOT PAYED ENOUGH CONTRIBUTIONS.out of work or what....deducted taken out of wages...off sick..years ago...pay seperately your nhi stamp.state insurance.even though not wages..then keep up your contributions..for health care...lloyd george liberals 1911....all my family..50s and before..never knew word off sick...work or school...so...mysel... more >>

  • Re: by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 25-Sep-2012
    When I was a kid, I remember going to Dr Ginsberg in Lady Margaret Road when I was ill, and my mother being charged half-a crown for a visit. Before the NHS, of course. I can also recall being treated by Dr Olive from North Road.

  • Re: by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Sep-2012
    Fred, this has nothing to do with the Panel, and although I still make mistakes, I find it does help in reading stuff to use CONTROL AND + and CONTROL AND - to reverse it.

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2012
    yes roy...1936..west ave..it would be 2/6 doctor......terrible birth in front room...nan had 7 babies but her scared daughter age 21...nan could not get delivery.....no 2/6 for doc...so sent for district nurse rolphe from clarence st.......not such a charge........boy born ok...fine today age 76.....but was long difficult labour.....2012 nhs...seems treat tourists immigrants etc.....but pre 1952 i... more >>

  • Re: by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Sep-2012
    When my brother David was born in 1936 with Pyloric Stenosis, which was a blockage in the main intestine, which meant he couldn't keep milk down, my mother had to feed him with the bladder of a fountain pen. Dr Ginsberg arranged for him to go into Great Ormond Street hospital for an operation at six weeks old. I don't know whether any money had to be paid. My brother survived that, but then contra... more >>

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2012
    yes should have had retirement.....several good reports on southall memories ..of gp...clyne was good as well 50s 60s.....but they had had through all generations.....ordinary working people.....not really looked after much.....nan never went doc or hospital all life...knew no different...and shillings 1930s were wage ..pkt week money gone food rent....previous generations pennies......grateful to... more >>

  • Re: by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Sep-2012
    Our family doctor was Dr McKenna in South road.
    For some reason my mum took me to Dr Olives-not sure why. In those days women doctors were not common. The practice I go to now is very girly!

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2012
    mike....you were all talking...of radio....dick barton 1950s 1940...a while ago........they are repeated next week daily...on radio4 extra...708...................and talks people here on site of sing song...the other local sites have also spoken of mrs mills on this week.....mrs mills.. joanna upright piano...tinkle the ivories...lps sold....on few times this week....freeview channel bbc 9.evenin... more >>

  • Re: by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 25-Sep-2012
    Our Doctor was Dr. Sheperd his practice was in Norwood Rd near the corner of Victory Rd and opposite my grandfather who after he retired became the doctors gardener.

    What a wonderful doctor he was, he even treated me for free for a bout of tonsillitis when I was back from Australia on a visit once.

    It was the same practice where there was also a a female, Dr. Moore? I think, who many years ... more >>

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Sep-2012
    there are 2 murders in google of over that way old southall..way back 1920ish or yrs...mr meads book has it and oates local history librarian ealing....woman coming home from work as milliner from southall station to the common....she cut across the rec as short cut....murder.etc......then dear mrs makelin...not sure spelling in the 50s..going to work nestles.early morning.over by quiet area..back... more >>

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Sep-2012
    yes........fred..............in google.....and I wnt to the exhibition south bank..thames london......2009 to recent times....the have done the southall story....personal stories.......in google..her dr was eva moore...was murdered by drug user ..poor frail body dumped in canal...memories of marion parker reeves 1957 yrs went to grammar..lived by canal norwood rd wiltely gdns used riding stables t... more >>

  • Re: by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 27-Sep-2012
    Dr McKenna in South Road was our doc when I was little. I remember when my Mum took me there for whatever he used to ask me if I would like strawberry or raspberry cough linctus, and he made up his own. Lovely man. When he retired we went to Dr Paterson on the Uxbridge Road, but never found him very "doctorish" (I know, no such word!). When I got married I transferred to my husband's doc who was D... more >>

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2012
    lovely to read good reports of the gps.....they must have had many patients.hard work.in constantly growing town...my aunt 40s 50s..loved dr braun...think was.......her big op..when she was older and he near retirement...in the 1970s....she insisted on him..norwood southall hospital..had hillingdon surgeon,,just for op...then..braun did the rest...popped in to see her.....clyne..prefabs..was green... more >>

  • Re: by thompson (Member 10241148) on 29-Sep-2012
    I can remember my dad saying he was going "ON THE PANEL" but I think he was referring to getting a sick note from doctor Ginsberg or Clyne. Then "SIGNING OFF" when he was fit.

    Does anybody remember the dentist on the other corner by Dr Ginsberg's Surgery?

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2012
    the different dentists..I went to the one...at corner going into church ave.cant remember name.....off the king st.........mr thompson...........your photos...have had many viewings....robin boultwood comment said he lived opposite your family clarence st.......he now lives swanage,,,,but comes back..visits....yr ago visit......he has fond memories clarence st and your family....his southall schoo... more >>

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2012
    denis...................photos osterley home guard 21/29 sept 1940..close ups of men training..and to shoot down aircraft..and barley fields there 1960....we lived by fields footpath 1966....photo gt west rd 1934,garage petrol 12/6..and own private traffic lights operating.....google getty images osterley....g union canal..cormorants looking for fish..yellow beak hooper swan pair...heron....and du... more >>

  • Re: by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Sep-2012
    Thank you Yvonne will take a look.

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2012
    ok.........getty images,,,,,then type in their box osterley..........box can type in other subjects and get all sorts...board17 we have new entrance security officer there gate high fence saturdays as well...dormers..allenby rd......board3...10...20..21 .22..43...23...add photos...51.....gt shampoo.with root of plant most gentle type of soap,,use for antique tapestries etc...horse level ..ploughed... more >>

  • Re: by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Sep-2012
    The bit I enjoyed the most in "Wartime Farm" was when they dispensed with the starting handle to start the engine of the "Field Marshall" Tractor. Instead they undid the nut on the outside of the tractor and put black powder in from a cartridge, and after igniting it then wrapped blotting paper tightly around inside, as it was slow burning. Then, after screwing the bolt back on, hit the 'firing pi... more >>

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2012
    yes saw them ignite it.....amazing....the 6.30 bbc2 series is good also..daily..interesting coventry...bath...etc...dormers school visited coventry just after new modern cathedral..1964ish.my photos with the girls.....north rd north parade again.more photos on board17....then....denis series ......the ace fighter pilot.young lad from.shot down many more than others did..from montreal rural..incred... more >>

  • Re: by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 30-Sep-2012
    Memtion of Southall dentists reminds me of the chool dentist. When I started at North Road School, the School Dentist was based at Featherstone Road. Later, a small building which had been North Road Infants School was converted to a Medical Centre, including a Dental Surgery. The School Dentist was a very nice young Scottish lady

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Sep-2012
    we used to have gas mask...school clinic...opened corner off northcote pub and grubhams grocer.....then later seemed no gas mask thank goodness...frightened life out of me and smell etc......north parade photos on board17 ..or 3..or 10/12 today..think..domino cafe....hawkin .old grocer shop there....hairdressers..butchers....rabbit...kidneys with fat..hearts...all used..sage onion stuffing...oxtai... more >>

  • Re: by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Sep-2012
    We only needed gas masks at Brentside juniors if we sat next to Terry Weekes

  • Re: by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 1-Oct-2012
    I see when it comes to dentists no one has mentioned the elephant in the room i.e. Duncan who had his practice in Dormers Wells Lane about 400 metres from Uxbridge Rd, it was well known that you had to go to him in the morning because after 4.00pm you got "Drunken Duncan" and he wasn't too gentle either.

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2012
    pinch punch 1st month no returns....ha....new photos board17 seem popular.....north parade...new dormers opened..3rd southall scouts boys close up 1950s......community centre.restored....ron brewer donkey..1950s st bernards 2 lane traffic going to iron bridge at arch entrance..607 trolley and greenline bus....etc aerial 1928 greenford area redlion etc.....etc..boards3..10..12..43...22..23..53..etc... more >>

  • Re: by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Oct-2012
    3rd Southall scouts Spartans that was the troupe i was in we talked of some time ago

  • Re: by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-Oct-2012
    I was just re-reading the first posting on the next thread (R J MEADS' book 830-1982)

    Chris wrote " I feel like I have been transported back to another life that I once lived.", and a couple of events in my life over the last few days have made me realise how profound and accurate that statement actually is. I find it difficult to assimilate with the values (or rather the lack of them) of a... more >>

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2012
    denis...see the photo of boys 50s...in corbis images site in google...southall......or on board17...........xmas toys in their hands...fete fair.....new tricks tv...bbc tonight again at greenford ..by the church oldfield lane.tonight.......often locally filmed.....

  • Re: by Chris (Member 10220786) on 1-Oct-2012
    KEITH ------I totally agree with you. I suppose every generation feels the same, but the changes our generation have seen have changed the world completely. Like you, I would NOT like to be a youngster today. I feel sad for my grandchildren, although they are happy because they don't know any different. Times are hard. Chris x

  • Re: by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-Oct-2012
    Chris, You've hit the nail bang on the head. Children today don't know any different. They think that what goes on now is normal and that things and places have always been like this. . Yet West Middlesex in particular has been destroyed within our lifetimes. . And the "culture" is just so much different now. In fact the word 'culture' is no longer appropriate. . I know you cannot re-write... more >>

  • Re: by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Oct-2012
    CHRIS - Strange that Keith has been referring to your comments on R.J.Mead's book, as I have just received notification from my library that the book has now been received on Inter-library loan (£4.90), and they will be delivering it to me. So, thanks for the information you gave! All done by e-mail!

  • Re: by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Oct-2012
    MICHAEL - Your memories of school dentists in Southall reminded me of my first encounter at the North road dentist. I was very young when I went there, and was absolutely petrified. When I was in the dentist's chair I can remember trying to stop whatever was going on in my mouth with my hands. According to my mother, she was called in to hold my hands down so that the dentist could proceed. I reme... more >>

  • Re: by Chris (Member 10220786) on 1-Oct-2012
    Pauline & Michael....I recall going to the dentists in North Road School Clinic, the old infants school in fact. I don't know if it is a memory or dreaming but were the sinks covered with red glass so that we couldn't tell how much blood was coming from our mouths when we rinsed them after the extraction? I can see this vison clearly in my minds eye. Chris x x

  • Re: by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Oct-2012
    As far as I can remember Chris, I think it was Phyl Hutnell who told us about the red sinks. I don't remember any of that as I was very little when I went there.

  • Re: by Chris (Member 10220786) on 1-Oct-2012
    I hope you enjoy the book Pailine. £4.90 - wow that's a lot to have to pay. I don't recall if I had to pay to borrow it from the library or not. It was a few years ago now. Fortunately I have a copy of my own now........a long story but my cousin is married to the sister of the authors son's wife! Takes some working out! Chris xx

  • Re: by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Oct-2012
    It's actually £4.80 Chris. I made a mistake (What's new)! I expect some of it is attributed to the high cost of postage now when other libraries have to send it on.

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2012
    greenford oldfield lane huge close ups team at church..traffic going by to western ave...new tricks bbc tv..today....photos board17..1955 pm anthony eden.at bridge hotel pub greenford western ave...1945 churchill uxbridge station..40s hurricans northolt..glass total front doors entrance of southall town hall now...haven green jan 2012 new routemaster pole platform...ealing broadway.............sou... more >>

  • Re: by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 1-Oct-2012
    I believe in England years ago they did not charge for such things but here in Melbourne if a book has to be brought in from another library they still don't charge for it.

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2012
    yes not so much charges uk libraries yrs ago..but fines..and ordering bks has been a while now...library music loans etc....council tax we all pay is part of library cost..but some indivual costs as well...huge council tax pay every year all our lives ...some councils more than others for all ameneties...£4 seat to go to library evening talks local history etc..audio visual..social historians lib... more >>

  • Re: by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 2-Oct-2012
    Yes, it was me who remembered the red sinks at the school dentist in School Passage. The dentist was a nice Scottish woman then, but I remember once getting a telling-off from her because I thought she said "touch" when she had said "don't touch" after I'd had a tooth removed. I was such a timid little thing in those days!

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2012
    richard meads..books.pages on line..maypole and southall green.......several..of him..lots pages..over many yrs memories...good and photos..
    http://www.colin.harris4.btinternet.co.uk/page80.html
    top west corner alexandra ave .supermarket was fine fare ..gateways,somerfield..now coop..51 yrs ago 10/.week payed for groceries...photos board.17..3..10..12..22..23..43..to 53.interior southall library... more >>

  • Re: by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Oct-2012
    When I looked at the photo of Southall Station's stairs to the platform on Southallboard 17, it made me shudder as I have been known to 'bump' the baby's pram with baby in it down those stairs to board the Guard's van! I was a lot stronger then, but often a kindly gentleman would offer to help me down.

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2012
    hard job......steep stair.....buses good today low platform..seem to get pushchairs to wide place or up on surface easier....gradual decades..improvements in many areas achieved...progress......sometimes.....of course......nostalgia memories of photo boards..sites attract lots comments memories...google....picture tells thousand words.....rare if found..

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2012
    well..rare..photo...1970..jumping on off pole platform 120 bus..palace cinema..south rd...film.1970 aristocats cartoon.....other film..zoom.but something something london.cant see...jan 2012 boris new..copy of pole platform.routemaster...... photo also board17 at haven green ealing broadway on display new for london...120 says going to greenford station...crowds as usual that busy busstop...going ... more >>

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2012
    todays gazette.....new mr sherwood bk...he was in front row our heston....airport audio visual talk...denis.......around heathrow through time..photos 1950 entrance airport 4 buses.old cars..bath rd....before m4spur loads hotels.....tarmac rollers building m4 there.harlington....83 now lives harlington lifetime..he said longford harmondsworth little changed community fight preserve...harlington wa... more >>

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2012
    pauline..today....on... old face southall site picha.......of dylis...mayo....you spoke of....her grandparents northcote ave and then to spikes bridge rd..,,,mr pumfrey.....lots regulars locals there..for couple yrs now.........mr thompson..your family photos..mr boultwood lived opposite yours at clarence st fond memories....etc etc..

  • Re: by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Oct-2012
    Thanks Yvonne will look at Heathrow pics, have posted pic of my enrollment cert. 3 Spartans cubs Southall 17 November 1953 on Flickr(d.sexton428)

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2012
    2 good photos ..yes denis...the close up 1956 one 3 boys with toys at scout xmas toys fair.23 nov..3rd southall cubs and scouts they look about.11/ 12..ish...

  • Re: by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Oct-2012
    Does anyone remember a chap called Derck Martin was scout master for the 3 Spartans lived on the Uxbridge Rd. bottom of Dormers Wells Lane i think he died in the late 1960s

  • Re: by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Oct-2012
    Did the Spartans used to meet at North Road School-red and green scarf??

  • Re: by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Oct-2012
    Yes michael on Thursday & Tuesday at Holy Trinity hall Lady Margaret Rd. if i remember correctly

  • Re: by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Oct-2012
    I didn't know any of the Mayo family Yvonne, only that they were a very large family. My sister might have known them.

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Oct-2012
    ok...yesterday and for some time now ....grandaughter mayo..on the other southall site,,,,said northcote ave,,,then to spikes bridge rd....lots lovely southall memories there...........old photos shops high st.western rd and wood shop..etc........sherrys chemist..southall grammar b/w...2 floors of southall library..windows over looking.osterley pk rd....

  • Re: by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 4-Oct-2012
    Hi Yvonne

    When you say 'on the other southall site' which site are you referring to?

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2012
    facebook......are you old face southall.......picha za......in google...about 5yrs or so now......reopened as photo site with 10 comments or so each photo...decades southall people all ages......ticks for likes....

  • Re: by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 5-Oct-2012
    So I presume you'd have to join Facebook?

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2012
    can see photos with their chat comments without join......just in google...picha za are you old face southall......the general one they had like other facebooks closes down when not enough ticks for likes..not enough response..comments,,,,,but now they make sure they get enough response so not close as they did yr ago................we are spoiled here...people can not bother and site stays open.... more >>

  • Re: by peter hillary (Member 10254122) on 17-Oct-2012
    When I was a child in the fifties our family Dr was Hector Smith who had his surgery at 1 Derley Rd just off the Western Rd he always wore winged collar shirts and I believe did sterling work during the second world war

  • Re: by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2012
    peter our photos western rd 50s 60s wood shop...halfway hse pub...flexman coach area etc..on board.prince wales pub...all years going far back...photos....................the dentist .orthopedic..corner east side church ave king st..older age man was sharp bit scary to kids 1950s..upstairs clinic there..braces and things..

 
SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Chris (Member 10220786) on 13-Sep-2012
I've just re-read MR R J MEADS book. I feel like I have been transported back to another life that I once lived. I actually moved out of Southall in 1962; went back loads of times because my parents still had their shop until 1973. It's a facinating read and if you can find a copy I recommend it to you all. I know that Osterley Library keep copies of MR MEADS books. Years ago I ordered it via ... more >>   
  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2012
    thankyou chris.......and year or so ago...colin harris.ive......put it all on...google..on line.....many pages of the 1982 one.....the maypole one...and his booklet ..reservist.war........southall green manor house one....think there were 4 booklets in all..........ealing local history library for southall.mr oates librarian...has books cabinet......open long hours daily there.........lots rumours... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Sep-2012
    Thanks for that Chris. I have just sent an
    e-mail to my local library although I am not a member. So, keep your fingers crossed for me.
    lol Pauline

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Sep-2012
    Success Chris. The Library have been very prompt and are going to arrange an Inter-Lbrary Loan. I will have to become a member of the library, but no problem! I look foward to a good read!

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Sep-2012
    Enjoy Pauline they are a very good read

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Sep-2012
    Thanks Denis.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Chris (Member 10220786) on 13-Sep-2012
    WOW Pauline; that was so quick. I know you will enjoy MR MEADS BOOK. I have another one somewhere; must look it out - I think it is called GROWING UP IN SOUTHALL. MR MEAD was born in Grove Terrace about 1901. I was born in Grove Terrace too but quite a few years later than MR MEAD. Chris x x

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Chris (Member 10220786) on 13-Sep-2012
    WHOOPS.......sorry, MR MEADS was NOT born in Grove Terrace but his parents lived there just a couple of years before he was born. Chris x

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Sep-2012
    CHRIS - "Growing Up In Southall" by Mr R.J. Meads is in Google. I am still reading it. If you tap in "Clifton Brown Drapers" and then click on the heading "Page 5" up comes "Growing Up In Southall". I'm really enjoying it. He says in there he was born in Cambridge road.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Sep-2012
    I should have said "Growing Up With Southall From 1904". Trust me to get it wrong!

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2012
    limited time..google...ancestry.and free to anybody....got southall 1911...nice..yes meads....21 hgh st george clifton brown.draper age 46.born paddington 1865.wife kate born croydon.assisting in shop..basil 8 school alwyn 5 school.servant..nice click page handwritten by him..6 rooms..norwood uxbridge as was district then.they charge such lot usually......in google granddaughter proud of clifton b... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2012
    mr meads....info books on southall..chats about all the pubs...camra the pub society in google...end of 2011....says...glassy pub closed boarded to be vegetarian restaurant........old oak pub canal..of my gdad ..my gt gdad..1890s...closed up for sale..£625000..regina rd etc regulars..gdad and men in outing photo 1925 outside pub..photo hangs by bar,,,,,,,,...closed rising sun pub..cranford lane..... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2012
    TODAY....9 PM...FREEVIEW TV..CHANNEL 12....5STAR MARKED EXCELLENT FILMING AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL..WAR ..KIDS WITH LAUNCH BARRAGE BALLOON..SCHOOL..TEACHER IN LONG SHELTER ...TIMES TABLE..CHANT WITH GAS MASK ON..SHRAPNEL..2HRS...HOPE AND GLORY...GOOD ACTORS SCRIPT..AMMO WITH KIDS..GANGS....BOMB SITES....LONDON AND ALSO SUBURBS..GOOD SETS.....CLOTHES...KIDS TALK..MUMS COPING...

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 19-Sep-2012
    Hi everyone, I also read these pages and found them very interesting and was most pleasantly surprised how accurate they were. They really surprised me of the things I had long forgotten, one especially was the reference to Dr.Glass who used to run the clinic for children at the Manor House.I had impetigo in the mid 40's and she treated me for weeks before I was dispatched to the old fever hospit... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2012
    thats lovely jean....he did such work to.type so many pages..several.in the series..must have been print error..glad you put it right...age 6 on the 1911 southall census mr meads,,,think he died about 1982 southall....think he worked at the town hall a while.so. statistics he gives...and so many memories..so many things all around southall...over the other side...over the trams......old southall .... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Sep-2012
    I can remember the tram lines finishing on top of Hayes bridge

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Sep-2012
    Yes - In Mr Mead's "Growing Up With Southall From 1904" on site - one bit which really amused me was that "The Empire" cinema was opened in 1911 at the top of Northcote Avenue on the Uxbridge road. Evidently, it soon got a bad reputation and was closed after six years. Mr Mead said that the last film shown "The Exploits of Elaine" were very daring, the ladies revealing about four inches of leg an... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2012
    on his other page.....he puts mr s g cutland drapers 30 yrs king st...died 17 may 1981 age92...president of southall chamber commerce 1944 to 45...he lists all the presidents....photo on our board of rare lady one 1975 at cenotaph.hilton....with crowd around......census often round off dates ages...meads birth cert 1904..married 1929..died 1988 hillingdon borough registered..probably hillingdon ho... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Sep-2012
    I can remember going with my mother to the Manor House when she had an appointment to see Dr Glass who saw her occasionally after she had contracted TB. She was a very kind person.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2012
    nice when you put in dr glass in google...margaret acting med officer started when dr grundy called up war.....mr stonestreet account.in google.age 17.born 1926 worked for her...he was in med dept in the manor hse..dept...he saw fly v1 bomb come down regina rd..near where he lived.heard engine cut out...at west side part was martin famous pottery.had its own dock.changed to building there cleaned ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2012
    says 72 yrs draper...king st....sidney c cutland..liquidate windup..1958 26 aug.london gazette...1899 1901 1911 census family...sid e..dot gert...town hall hayes grade2 listed..being refurbished.barra pk....my student..held library door open to..age 11 to 17..wheelchair..gazette....misses olympic pk.very much indeed gt fun..she used to go all round in her electric scooter...won gold..equestrian..g... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Sep-2012
    I posted a letter in the GOLD LETTERBOX in Maidenhead awarded to Sophie Christiansen for her 3 gold medals in Equestrian events at the Paralympic games! People were taking photographs.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2012
    how wonderful......so many gt medals...brits got...so proud...lovely people......mo farah gold box isleworth went to tech college there ...ha so did I.......his dad born hounslow....and tony said another local one around...sure he said........we like henley and marlow..gt statues olympic rowers...both places..and museum......

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 19-Sep-2012
    Jean Edward's mention of the old Isolation Hospital reminded me of my two week stay there in 1938 (during the Munich Crisis) with Scarlet Fever. I remember s boy being confined to a single room with Impetigo.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2012
    that north rd..up by allendale rd.....hospital...in the 1960 years..adapted used for the elderly...hospital..for the ill........nan was there for a week.only.that year ..she had been...ill ...a very long time..passed away there.....think they said gone now..housing instead there...mount pleasant..behind the row parade of shops..north behind....happy september month birthday mike..think some days a... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Sep-2012
    Thank you Yvonne-it was the 6th. 84years on the clock-sobering thought,

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2012
    thought it was 6 to 9 ..area of dates but did not dare say incase got it wrong.....hubby born hillingdon hospital september....school...tend to be the sept age crowd...start of term.....many happy returns of the day.....gt weather 1st 2 wks sept most yrs but now oh dear chilly.now...autumn around corner,,,,,,

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Sep-2012
    Sorry about your nan Yvonne, but at least she spent the last few days of her life in Southall, the town that she had loved and lived in for a lifetime. Although Hillingdon has obviously done a lot of good things, I always felt it was an alien place. My mum died in there in the 60's after a few days. The Southall Norwood hospital where my dad ended up, was a much more friendly place, but then it wa... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2012
    oh your mum...nan was there october 1961.west ave we had autumn chrysanths.huge displays out on front lawn..then to havelock...nan timid shy lady all life..born northyde..orphan..2 siblings mum age 29 died there..hard times..3 of them age 3 she went to mums sister cranford lane.her 1803 side southall and 1850 side cranford lane then before hayes....she went to heston school.1895.when opened..think... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Sep-2012
    It was sad for your nan to lose her mother at such a young age Yvonne, but those things happened all those years ago. Fortunately, she came from a caring family and eventually had a large family of her own. It was sad for her to end up as she did after such a busy life, but she still had that caring family to look after her. That must hae been hard for your aunt caring for your nan for three years... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2012
    yes my aunt went to brain hosp..mental ops patients...she could not stand it..got her mum out straight away.......northhyde old labourers dwellings 1890s...tb..married 1885 ..chas..matthew died tb intestines..john..ada my nan age 3...sister hannah baby died measles..mum died same yr tb lungs..age 29 all buried heston church..he died labourer new workers houses going up west ealing.plasterer..fell ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Sep-2012
    Miss Bennett. Didn't she collect the rent on our estate Yvonne? I remember she was a very hard person. That certainly was a long walk for you from Yeading way, across fields to Dormers - especially in the bad weather.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2012
    yep..buses all around..in rain..because field..and bumpy field wet mud was murder..my aunt cycled for work..long hrs....2 choices..walk grapes 607 across walk length..dormers lane fog.etc......or walk around ashford delemere berkley rds..around mud fields..to step stones over brook..then bit path around other field..to yeading...ha...cow pats....xmas cake did for gce mock exam..teacher.was thrille... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2012
    DENIS.......brooklands on itv tv...4pm today..hour..excellent.......we have been twice

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Sep-2012
    Thank you Yvonne what a shame i have missed it i was out

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2012
    it was only short bit...but on the ramp.round the banking etc......tv 5 8pm good series had war planes..bader etc etc..well done /.interesting..it is weekly thursdays

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Sep-2012
    Heroes of the skies, was very good looking forward to next week

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2012
    yes excellent well made..hour...6 episodes...tv.and bletchley girls was good..and 40s war farm..well done...autumn..spurt of good documentaries....my heston relatives worked land army cranford mkt gardening and heston farm..gazette..more polish ....northolt airport section dept.museum..polish items gone on display..

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Sep-2012
    Yes, I'm also enjoying the series "Wartime Farm" in the 40's. To watch them making tiles for the barn roof was really interesting. To see the raw clay being stamped on, put through a machine to make the shape of the roof tiles, then firing them in the home-made kiln was brilliant. The making of the "hooch" to have when they were keeping an eye on the kiln at night was also good. Then the Christmas... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2012
    yes often autumn..tv ..starts..gt choirs..watched everything he does..proms so good...forces wives...all so good..for the country...nhs..he is doing post office workers...as well..work hard but clever to train the voice.........sing song was always the way of past families..also...

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 21-Sep-2012
    Yvonne-Your mention of Heston Farm reinds me I had a summer job there the during the summer of 1950,when I was a student.One of my tasks was to lead the horse of a horse rake ic was a man called Fiddler who used to cuss the horse and me in equal measure.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Sep-2012
    Michael, I beat you to it, as I was at Heston Farm in 1945, during my school holidays. I had actually just left school. Most of us working there were school children picking up the windfall apples and stringing up the tomatoes.
    There were also many land-army girls there as well, plus a conscientious objector. "Fiddler" was there when I was, and he wasn't very kind to the shire horse as the poor t... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Sep-2012
    Thinking about it, was it a 120 bus we used to get to and from Heston Farm, and not a 105?

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2012
    yes...still runs...bus stop at heston church and return stop along parade shops....must be one of the oldest...long yrs ..southall to heston hounslow...120 goes on to northolt tube station.north.......105 down western rd...to junction pub and onto heathrow...we used it suitcase..in under bit on platform and gt get off heathrow for plane 1977/8 ish...lots heathrow workers use it ..105 up to greenfo... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Sep-2012
    I still have a 1951 bus map

    105 used to run to a terminus at "HAYES NORTH" via South Road, Western Road and North Hyde Road. In those days, the 120 started at Hayes Stn, but ran via Coldharbour Lane to "the Grapes", then along Uxbridge Rd to Southall, then via South Rd & Norwood Road to Heston, Lampton, Hounslow Central then Hounslow Heath. So from Southall Station, to get to Hayes Stn by b... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Sep-2012
    Thank you Yvonne and Keith.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Sep-2012
    Who remembers seeing 105s running to "Hayes North"?

    When they changed it all, and the 120s ran to Greenford instead of Hayes, the 55s ran from Hanwell to Hayes North but via Greenford and Yeading. When the 55s took over, they renamed it "Hayes, Bourne Avenue"

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2012
    nice on top of the 120 now...views..dragon roof palace...then up lady margaret rd..left west along ruislp rd..as was talor woodrow was..now modern marina..dwellings...but teamwork statue woodrow still there....to as was byron pub fire..white hart pub yeading..then..120 up to tube train..london..and northolt swim pool leisure centre.....on bus white hart pub 20yrs ago..all stop pause..while ..hears... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 21-Sep-2012
    I didn't know about Byron pub fire but nice to learn TayWood teamwork statue still survives. It used to be over the door entrance. I think it used to be bronze but turned green (as bronze does).

    Many many years since I moved to Sussex now, but went to Hampton/Hanworth recently. Hanworth once wonderful rural place, but awful now and not safe to be for old people.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2012
    yes you stroll the marina..glass dwellings..and statue 4 teamwork men..on lawn..in middle.....I went for interview woodrow 1976/7..but chose the other job...nice glass tall front doors..entrance,,head office..with the corner statue.teamwork.all up the left side of the door...concrete.stone carved...white.working men....pictures etc in google....

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2012
    40s ..and reflects 50s.....farm war rations etc...general life so well done..repeated today 5pm......tick...pilolows bolsters...feathers..tight weave linen but..oh yes point feathers poked through sharp..many tile lanes called today...near canal....harefield middx...by old tudor rd school...brick kilns..clamps..coal..5 days heat 2days tiles 900 degrees....gd social local history tv..gt photography... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Sep-2012
    Something I'd completely forgotten about in "Wartime Farm" was the feather duster on a stick that the historian made from the chicken feathers. Not that we ever made one, but my aunt used to have one during the war and I used to help her with the dusting when I stayed with her.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2012
    my aunt had one on long stick great for top cornrs ceiling...oh they had west ave..picture rail..metal hooks chains..for mirror...and couple photos to hang....but vacume is gt..attach and long just suck it up..so much .people.life in that farm war..great series..repeated saturdays..gt hot sun today out again.countryside rivers canal hills..local......but tony is going to try video record..708..rad... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Sep-2012
    It was a shame that the programme "Wartime Farm" was not shown at the time in the TV guide. It should have been on at 4.55pm and came on at 4.10pm instead. In fact, several of the programmes following were also mucked up!

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2012
    oh...hope you saw it all.....yes they do sometimes..the times...if video..during night always best to do 20 mins extra...tony did radio.on tv..tonight see if miracle tomorrow work...ha.......2hour play should be gt.....some radio 4 plays have been masterpieces over yrs..hampshire the farm..poor southampton..we go often..lovely..new titanic museum..loved the surviving medieval walls ad old maritime... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 24-Sep-2012
    Look forward to Wartime Farm coming to Australia on TV and will definitely watch it. Mine you it does the rounds before coming down here, so I will give it 4 months or so.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2012
    its bbc2....jean.....bbc4 digital....often has the ducumentaries at repeat.....so digital often gets picked up abroad...in computer...bbc iplayer....often has repeat of programme free on computer screen......lovely people in it...humourous and so well done..xmas at the farm with evacuees...parsnip legs mock turkey..sausage meat mix..herbs etc.shaped as turkey....tasty..stuffing effect flavours....... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2012
    the good tv documentaries are connected...to open uni..milton keynes..and world correspondence courses degree.....have written off for free info they send booklets...past yrs they are good..bbc and ou.....curriculam..schools recent yrs....do 20th century..pity did not do or social.history.peoples lives at school yrs ago....this week tv..oz like corrie.as does my cousin canada..ken barlow father do... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2012
    today quick reply from ou..they posting bbctv war farm booklets and a marr history new tv series...general-enquiries@open.ac.uk.....jean they would post to you also..colourful interesting..708....digital radio extra this happy breed recorded ok..excellent..gt rare photos times gone by ..board 10..43..22..23...18..adam eve deco pub hayes..hanwell...ealing..southall 1938 jubilee gdns area....slough.... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2012
    feel so sorry...for beautiful kew....and new z lady...who died ..branch fell...rare....but winds sunday torrential rain monday....age 30 been in london for few yrs......imperial war museum and pathe..films..war .agriculture dig for victory...beans bullets.veg victory..cloches against hitler...hour in gdn better than hr queue...rows our back garden we cut old potatoes in 4 get 4 eyes plant .pretty ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Sep-2012
    Just been looking st 1st Episode of "Wartime Farm" on BBC2 i-player "Wartime Farm", and it says the repeats of i-player of the three episodes will remain for 1 month!

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Sep-2012
    Although I realised that many thousands of cats and dogs were taking to the vets to be put down, I hadn't realised that millions of live stock were slaughtered during the wartime cull of WW11.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2012
    yes so sad about pets.....kept dairy cows for milk....lovely..interesting..and loads of fun in..the documentary..ruth the historian spends lot of time laughing,,love the clothes sets,,,etc...aylesbury geese ducks come into middx canal...but seem cross breed with mallards...angling society along there many yrs..river colne..canal locks.......mike...photos rare of of .war.british restaurant..acton.... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2012
    daily....bbc tv 6.30.....peoples info..war...very interesting...spitfire fund 17 spits bought belfast,,,,,as southall hayes,,,did shillings....a spit a day keeps hitler away...pigs kept kitchen waste...belfast only quarter population shelters..went up in.hills...zoo 33 animals killed feed problem and if escape....huge archive..rooms..and dairies personal observations...kept at sussex uni..reading ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Sep-2012
    Reading about the food for pig waste, I started to add up all of our various bins we now have from our Council. Wheelie bin for normal rubbish. Recycling bin for paper, glass and tin. Green bin for all garden waste, and now Food Waste recycling: Food cooked and uncooked, including bones, meat, fish and dairy produce, bread, cakes and pastry, rice, pasta and beans, pet food, coffee grounds and tea ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Sep-2012
    Should have said "food waste for pigs."

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2012
    just saying to tony ...cant remember 50s..dustbin..suppose metal and lid..but where..let alone dustbin man...ha.....always out school etc....yet remember coalman shoot whole big cwt bag in cupbaord coal hole..no memory rubbish peddle bin kitchen....BUT..so much less rubbish...huge supermkt packaging today.......50s fresh veg out garden...no rubbish...compost heap instead......massive difference ru... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 25-Sep-2012
    I have stil got my parents old metal dustbin and lid with S B C (Southall Borough Council) embossed on the side. It has braved the elements and is still in good condition.

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2012
    incredible....sbc....metal they soetimes used them for...a fire.......so we must have had sbc at west ave....dont remember dust cart coming but must have been out during day.50s...but they did not put them out on pavement....years now we have to put all along out there..weekly..quick they tip into big noisy van and off go so fast....thanks bob..black plastic bins..then black plastic bags....get me... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 25-Sep-2012
    The binmen used to carry a large tin bath,and put the rubbish from our dustbin and our neighbours,our as much as he could get in it. then have to carry the bath to the refuse lorry and empty, where i lived in Regina Rd ,we had a lane at the rear and the bins were kept there , so you can imagine the walk the binman had to to empty his bath

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2012
    not many people would know that.....good knowledge of yours....what difficult times they had....so much was terrible hard work.......slowly very slowly getting better...over many yrs......tin bath..off back house hanging..bath in front fire.....shops selling the..tin items....enamel items....many yrs before plastic etc came in..regina rd...nan dad were at mt pleasant next to oak pub to 1928 condem... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 25-Sep-2012
    I was apprentice at the Tube down Gordon Rd. Also my fathers friend lived there, Percy Bayliss they both worked at the Cramic when it was in Western Rd. Percy was a athlete (walker).I can remember one morning in about 1947/9,My father and I meeting him at his house.he was all prim and proper, dressed in suit ,waistcoat and tie,and carrying a small suitcase we then caught a bus to the White City wh... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Sep-2012
    think it was olympics..white city and wembley stadium..1948...august.....105 went southall to western ave a40 to white city.....my aunt went dog track racing there....trevor baylis.....the famous inventor has been on tv often...his family from old southall..green...then ..moved to lady marg rd..went to dormers wells school....he is about over70...he went to the yr 2000 reunion.....could be his fam... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Sep-2012
    I think Trevor Bayliss lives on Eel Pie Island now. . . Often seen in Twickenham

  • Re: SOUTHALL 830-1982 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Sep-2012
    yes he does lived there many yrs now...the music etc...of old times there...wonder if bob southall bayliss.of olympics 1948..is related to southall 1950s dormers wells school trevor.......photos him and his invention clockwork radio on our boards...africa used...

 
photos by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 2-Sep-2012
HELP !! A cry for help from an 83 year old fart who is unable to post old photos of Southall. Can someone please help in words of one syllable if possible.   
  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2012
    if you put them with your other..of railway tavern pub 1930ish,,,with your dad and men out front...I will tranfer them to our flickr photos..roy...best wishes..thankyou.....found your .photo..in google month ago roy..good photo lots local men.outside pub..darts..win...league...southall.darts..1927 or something...added it to our flickr with comment does anybody know men......but dilys.facebook sout... more >>

  • Re: photos by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 2-Sep-2012
    Thanks,Yvonne. I have already put them on that site, but I cannot transfer them to Knowhere Southall.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2012
    found you have added them..roy couch photostream ..in google....football....by the gem..and king street...will transfer them to our a....also....so they will be on both sites....thanks.roy...but ..dylis.. photo southall facebook site is good...3 men there know the old years of southall green and men..etc..shops..etc....tv then there itv.looks like jellied eels east end london...nan liked them from... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2012
    GREAT PHOTOS ROY..1900 KING ST..GDAD H F HARDY HAIR CUT SHAVE SHOP..WHO IS PAULINE .THE LITTLE GIRL IN PHOTO......1921 TO 22.ATHLETIC FOOTBALL CLUB SOUTHALL MEN..KNOW ANY NAMES......REAR GEM CINEMA..UNIGATE PASTURISED MILK FLOAT YOUR DAD ARCHIE COUCH.......ROY EVERYBODY WANTS KNOW..WHAT SUB STATION ELECTRIC OR EARLIER RAIL SIGNAL BOX..IS THERE..STILL THERE LISTED BUILDING.RED BRICK..LITTLE WINDOWS... more >>

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Sep-2012
    (Sub station) Generator building for P W Dilloways Ind. estate before the National grid

  • Re: photos by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 2-Sep-2012
    Thanks for the interest. Pauline was my wife, who died on 29th May last. The little girl standing in the front of the King Street shop was my mother who was born in 1898. My Aunt Lil is at the window. Archie Couch was my uncle and lived in Clarence Street. My grandfather eventually moved to No 55 King Street. I was born in 1929 in the tenement block in The Crescent (a real slum at the time).

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2012
    yes remember you saying now denis..thanks..loads people southall sites ask what it is..listed building.still there...sub station built for gilloways...so year gilloways started do you roughly know...others say red brick windows to top rows...before they think early rail...signal box..but most says elect sub....ROY...THANKS...1898 SO PHOTO ABOUT 1904..UNCLE ARCHIE..SO MANY HAD SKILL WITH HORSES..MI... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2012
    denis.....just found p w dilloways ltd..southall in google.........flickr...large advert pages etc pictures etc...let me know if can add more

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2012
    amazing amount things in google..........who remembers me site........dilloways southall 1952 to 54 trevor taylor..1958 to 64 g kerrison......1959 advert large page....4 fure tel number head office southall green..gears..eyc got the royal warrant..how many years were they there........funny bbc tv page by it..steel frame circle of new buildng opened 1960 myself worked there 1966...gorgeous buildin... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2012
    denis....page in google...dilloway...went to swindon addres....years marked there like 1996..disolved it says company......the southall headoffice dates 1959 page in google...and 1962 jan..and 1964 jan.agricultural engineering.says london gazette company is southall.....all move change firms over yrs company house records archive..keep records....wonder when sub station first built red brick..as y... more >>

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Sep-2012
    Thank you Yvonne as far as i know P W Dilloways Ind. estate dates form about 1933/34

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2012
    thanks 1933....only thing not found in google...so 1933 before nat grid...they built red brick sub station..or estate there if others built it before them.....lots photos in google of famous sub station there......glasgow.devon..southall the head office ..agric engineering..metal structures..machine mining,..quarry......says became incorporated 6.9. 1989...dissolved 26 sept..2000..........final na... more >>

  • Re: photos by Chas Chand (Member 10277855) on 3-Sep-2012
    Where are these photos. I would love to see them. I (or rather my parents moved to Southall in 1962)

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2012
    flickr.southallboard photostream..many are pre 1962..southall and local areas of memories etc

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Sep-2012
    Dilloways restored large gears with worn teeth by welding & hand grinding them to shape with a template, they also did digger buckets & track for cranes & crawler tractors. they also did electrical work this was done in the sub station you mention

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Sep-2012
    Thanks Yvonne got Dilloways ad up, that takes me back 51/52 years

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2012
    thanks info...yes advert is great....wonder was was by gem pre 1933...sub station...unigate milk depot stables horse van of roy couch uncle...catholic church got built there.....rail over the way.....THE...1962.parents HERE mentioned would remember 1962 broadway shops or king street or high st original shops..we all loved...always interesting to our members...any 1962 from...parents would be great... more >>

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Sep-2012
    Info based on info i was told at time i worked a Dilloways

  • Re: photos by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Sep-2012
    Denis

    See what I mean about the airport & Sipson?? No part of rural Middlesex is safe now.

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Sep-2012
    Yes Keith im with you so sad as you said our beloved middx will be no more

  • Re: photos by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 5-Sep-2012
    Is Southallboard 52 the latest board?

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2012
    yes.best wishes ..52

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2012
    all the good people who worked developing..great industries factories.etc. southall etc..as families say of their proud southall memories..good town and families hard work...just found..southall county grammar...ron ottewill..obe..feb 8 1927 died 2008...did chemistry....also beaconsfield school and heston school..and university degree london...royal society honours and prizes...antibodies.....his ... more >>

  • Re: photos by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Sep-2012
    Yvonne, We all know that this country is a different place and we cannot bring the old one back. But is anyone really happier now than when we all had so little?? Personally, I would rather be living in 1955 again, and that is because I don't remember much before that

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Sep-2012
    I am with you Keith the country has moved on from the 1950s & not for the better or is it us that are out of touch

  • Re: photos by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 6-Sep-2012
    Keith, I think it was because we were kids and to some extent shielded from what was going on around us. That said I remember the newspapers big ones local Gazette or the Ghastly news of the World spread out on the table. The stories in them enough to curl anyone hair. First big headline I read was Big Burther Prosecuted.Tame by todays standards. Relying on a coal fire to heat the whole house whic... more >>

  • Re: photos by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Sep-2012
    Yes Lynne, and I think that many of today's problems have been caused by kids going home and sitting in their bedrooms with computers. We always "played outside" with other kids, and that social interaction is now gone. But, where can kids today play a game of "rounders" in the street?? Would they even know how to play it?? And organising it for THEMSELVES!!?? The 'system' has even su... more >>

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Sep-2012
    Keith its called mass control

  • Re: photos by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Sep-2012
    Denis, you are right . . . . Where I am now (in Arundel), I have lots of friends of 'our' generation, mostly from different parts of London. Every one of them thinks that the 1950s were a 'golden age', without much money, but poorer and happier in strong family units, (nearly all within walking or cycling distance in those days too).

  • Re: photos by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 8-Sep-2012
    Den, were'nt many cars on road then and people did not grumble about kids on street as theirs were out there to. Sadly kids chatter outside a house now almost always causes offence. And the fact that most mums who were home for children are now forced to work so kids have become latchkey kids. No youth clubs either but I recall having loads including the Sally Army or St.Georges close to my home. ... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Sep-2012
    lynne.......did you your brother know jason donovan gdad lived house by northcote pub.years..son terry went oz.....our dear member len..kept in touch with the gdad..len lived southall then bit hayes all his long life..........photos old playgrounds...and southal hanwell...50s etc..carnivals..on our board...billy smart was invlved ..and tommy trinder..at ravenor pk..one also...greenford..list stree... more >>

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Sep-2012
    Keith, Lynne to the kids of today this will be there golden age as they will know no difference. As you say Lynne as a kid i had unlimited freedom and a bike i remember cycling to Windsor age 10 and many other places to airshows ect.

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Sep-2012
    We are all using an implement of mass control now the computer the powers that be can read our Emails and anything else they whant

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Sep-2012
    2012 vaste interesting.knowledge information.communication..broad mind......our country and world..cars travel.see loads..but as possible control our own lives in how we live and enjoy..pros and cons..family and broadened to friends..

  • Re: photos by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 10-Sep-2012
    Denis

    We lived in N. Hanwell, but regularly cycled to Heathrow (LAP as it was called then), Northolt, Elstree, Denham, and once to Redhill. This was NORMAL then - once we did Northolt, Denham, & LAP on one big circuit from N.Hanwell. . Felt very tired at the end of that one. Once did Panshangar in one day too. COULD kids do that today?? Would they want to??

  • Re: photos by Chris (Member 10220786) on 10-Sep-2012
    A few of us girls in the 50's used to love to cycle to Horsingdon Hill. We all lived in North Road and Shrubbery Road area. It was such an adventure; all aged appx 11 or 12. Also used to cycle to Uxbridge Swimming Pool and spend the day there - once we padlocked our bikes to a fence & my friends purse was lost/stolen with they key in it. A kind man helped us release our bikes. Happy days.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2012
    lovely views top of horsendon hill.east side..was twin towers now new arch of wembley stadium..off greenford rd they say now paradise park..by there also now as canal goes across.....pitsanger park..brent.saw rare sight kingfisher at edge fast flow..there.......sharon the olympic swimmer opened the new uxbridge lido few years ago..leisure complex attached where they celebrated party olympic torch ... more >>

  • Re: photos by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Sep-2012
    Keith's memory has stirred mine. I used to go fishing at Staines with a friend,John Brown, and we cycled across country in the Heathrow area.
    Occasionally we went by train from Southall, changing at West Drayton on to the quaint Push and Pull to Staines.

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Sep-2012
    Yes Keith did all thoes and White Waltham first time i saw Royal Navys Fairy Swordfish which i am glad to say is still flying with them today, never did Panshanger

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Sep-2012
    Chirs i also spent many happy hours on Horsenden hill on my bike happy days

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Sep-2012
    P.S Keith also did Brooklands Weybride Surrey.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2012
    great fly of kites top horsendon..wind..nice and high..views greenford..western ave........was interest this site.of..rare huge barn harmondsworth by sipson saved by heritage lottery etc money..,,,.ruislip..has the other barn...oldest in middx...saved last 10yrs now...but.recent with 75% lottery money..the manor hse.farm hse.open to public free daily...museum..displays audio visual..like osterley... more >>

  • Re: photos by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 10-Sep-2012
    One GOOD thing where it seems better. Being a North Hanwell boy, we were always told not to go near the Brent as it was so polluted. Nowadays it seems that the pollution has gone and there is a "Brent Country Park". I would not have believed that possible 55 years ago.

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Sep-2012
    I used to cycle with my friend to Runnymede regularly on a Sunday, first on my old "Daisy Bell" and then on my new bike that I had saved for every week at the Bike shop in Southall (can't remember the name). We used to meet a crowd of boys who were always there and play endless hours of rounders. There were masses of people swimming in the Thames, but I didn't ever venture in there as it was quite... more >>

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Sep-2012
    Denis, I live not far from White Waltham Airport, and everytime they had a show on, which people paid to see by ticket, we just used to stand in our back garden and watch all the antics in the air. Some of it was quite scary, as they fly so fast.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2012
    greenford etc factories polluted the canal..and brent...but change in all that..kingfisher getting fish out of the brent..saw....and canal over 10yrs...recenty hug money spent....pollution cars lorries coal etc...clean looking many parts..and london today parade medals 21 floats..clean portland stone millions and years took...but lots clean looking everywhere..gt architecture saved...love to my mi... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2012
    denham...airfield still used.....fly lessons every weekends etc..circle the grand union canal...lakes 3 rivers.......northolt...sept duke kent war memorial.....spitfire fly over....arrives hanger friday....saturday..circles airfield tribute ..polish pilots etc ..go over it...and circle tip wing tribute as leaves 7pm.saturday....last week...amaze clear blue high sky..see moon.to 12.30..lunchtime..... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2012
    typoons 3 of palace fly past olympics..over northolt airport tribute to...all the weeks security..provided northolt.....3.50 pm...gt arrows today...extra circle they did..back onto their own red white blue...stream....london looks beautiful these last months..so very beautiful...as it is

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Sep-2012
    Pauline would that be Evans bike & pram shop in the Uxbridge Road, they used to put some very good airshows on at White Waltham it was also the base for the very brave ladys of A.T.A in WW11 the local churchyard has a number graves of these lady flyers & female aircrew.

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Sep-2012
    Yes, you're right Denis.It was Evans the bike and pram shop. I think most of Southall used to buy their bikes there. The only thing with White Waltham airport is, sometimes an unexpected plane, like a jet, will suddenly whizz across the rooftops - it seems - and frightens the life out of you. I often wonder who are in the helicopters when they are going towards London Airport.

  • Re: photos by Chris (Member 10220786) on 10-Sep-2012
    Pauline, not only did my bike come from EVANS at the top of Oswald Road but also my daughters pram in 1964. However, the bike was second hand to me. Before I had it it belonged to my sister-in-law who lived in Oswald Road until 1957.

  • Re: photos by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 10-Sep-2012
    Youve got me thinking now ,which isnt a good sign. Can anyone remember the name of the bike shop in The Green opposite Southall Hospital, and the one down Norwood rd ,first row of shops passed the Swan, i know the one in King St, Hardys. and was Mal Rees shop selling racing bikes at the top of Lady Margaret Rd

  • Re: photos by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 10-Sep-2012
    I'd forgotten about White Waltham

    Used to get the Thames Valley route "B" bus from LAP (was stop outside the Peggy Bedford or was it outside the 3 Magpies??) straight to Maidenhead then get another T.V. bus to W.Waltham airfield. Happy days

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Sep-2012
    Oh, the sound of the "Peggy Bedford" - that was a lovely pub. That's gone now. Opened in 1928, demolished in 1995. When I was younger it always looked such a grand place. Guess what it changed to. What else - A McDonald's restaurant and petrol station!

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Sep-2012
    Chris, I was in Langley in 1958 when I bought our first pram. My neighbour had a ticket to Hounsditch Warehouse, London and I can still see that pram in my mind's eye. It was a Churchill and had a white chassis and a navy hood. That pram used to hold all my shopping in the bottom of it, underneath the boards, and the baby on top. It was never ever used for transporting coke though (as in earlier d... more >>

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Sep-2012
    Bob it was Vic Humphreys at the top of Lady Marg. Rd he started at Lady Marg, Parade at the pub end after the war, i bought a new Viking racing bike off him in 1958, mum bought Triumph ladys bike from Evens in 1956

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Sep-2012
    Keith - Although I don't really know, but I would think the bus stop you refer to would have been outside the "Three Magpies" as that was much closer to London Airport. The "Peggy Bedford" was nearer to the Colnbrook Bye-Pass.

  • Re: photos by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Sep-2012
    I think you're right Pauline. The 'B' bus from Victoria to Maidenhead (or Reading??) stopped at what was then known as "London Airport North" and was quite a well used service.

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Sep-2012
    Although I have got all the Photoboards on my PC, I have been trying to find the photo of "The Three Magpies" which I know is on there. Haven't found it yet, but noticed that if I type in the following, it will get all our Photoboards. Maybe it's because I have got them already, but it's worth a try!

    Flickr southallboard49@yahoo.co.uk's photostream

    Or whatever number you need

  • Re: photos by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 12-Sep-2012
    It appears that your generation had far far more freedom than mine. We were always kept to Southal only later venturing further afield after I left school. I left just before my 15th birthday at christmas time and all the rest of my class left at Easter or September so all of a sudden I was grown up and the world grew bigger to me. First wage £5.12/6 which seemed a princly sum after recieving hal... more >>

  • Re: photos by Chris (Member 10220786) on 12-Sep-2012
    I remember Jandi's......(can't remember the spelling either). It was always lit up during the dark evenings as most shops were. I loved looking in the window & wishing I could afford this or that. Actually it was quite a cheap shop to buy clothes but as you say, money was tight. Also liked to look in Elands Shop window. I did buy a dress in there when I was 15 and a BIG frilly pink petticoat ... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2012
    lynne........short page here,,,has from dane rd...years list people....and saxon rd..click top of here.mauve word southall.....pauline..have been..magpies and peggie bedford..over yrs...try 47..46..48..6...have one to put on with bus along it..52will try......30 bath rd..in google the 3 magpies pub bath rd..few pages list of some with photos of pub.....google sipson site has magpies.....1911 censu... more >>

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Sep-2012
    I can empathise with you Lynne on getting your first job. I had to leave Southall Grammar school when I was just fourteen as I had to earn my keep. I was the eldest of five and the war had just ended in 1945 and I got a job as a junior clerk at the Cow & Gate Milk Depot in Greenford, right near the Western Avenue roundabout. Unlike you, we didn't get any pocket money, and I can remember my first w... more >>

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Sep-2012
    Thank you Yvonne for photos of the Three Magpies" pub on Southallboard52. I can remember seeing the old thatched pub, as we often walked past there when we visited my sister-in-law who lived in a cottage off Harlington high street.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2012
    good..lovely....just noticed in google....old book..scroll each page reading...called..the bath rd...by charles g harper..lovely old illustrations....maidenhead thicket...magpies..cranford hse haunted...berkley arms..langley almshouses...bath windsor george3rd..slough..hounslow high st mile,,2000 post horses..coaches etc day night so close many that it was like procession..then to hyde pk corner..... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2012
    as you say..was custom ,fashion..for hard work all the week worked saturdays often as well....but sunday lunchtime..men met up with friends.good natter...walk to pub....good couple hrs...then home for sunday dinner...and up the stairs..kip...in afternoon....up for sunday tea...if winkles bread butter from pub lunch stall......less but 1960s.was also..my uncle chatted to friends the landlord landla... more >>

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Sep-2012
    You talking about scrubbing the vegetables from the garden in the 1950's Yvonne, I can remember we always used to put a pinch of salt in the water to coax the nasties out. That was cabbages and lettuces bought from the shops as well. Many years ago, my husband told me to put slug pellets around the garden to get rid of the slugs. It was a very warm summer's evening, and when I cane down in the nmo... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2012
    YES PROBLEM SLUG PELLETS HEDGEHOG.....but have to use pellets..bit...had nice hedgehogs over yrs..noise at night..they like bit of chicken bone etc...baby ones 2inch long..beer under cup etc snalis slugs...but yes slime..massacre...but have to do something..they eat every little shoot comes up..so no flowers...manage to get bit colour each yrs...but oh those slugs snails...yes salt..our veg garden... more >>

  • Re: photos by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 16-Sep-2012
    Sorry, but slug pellets should be banned. They are responsible for the decline of thrushes particularly who eat the poisoned slugs and snails. Also hedgehogs are being wiped out becauseof the use of these things too. I would rather have the thrushes and hedgehogs and find other ways of dealing with the slugs. We have no hedgehogs left around here now.

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Sep-2012
    I have just seeen this suggestion in Google to keep slugs off your plants.

    "Hammer out some copper pipe and put it around the stem at ground level slugs and snails wont cross copper."

    Another tip says to use copper tape! I've never heard of this.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2012
    pauline janice............ref dormers seniors .born 1937/8......had weekend afternoons out gt weather.....ruislip lido..free daily exhibition room there.photo DORMERS 1949 AGE 11/12 GIRLS. visit.LIDO UNIFORM HAT.girls..put photo on board52......gt displays..in reservoir.DETAILS.water creatures...woods..part of conserved whole vaste .way back in history of vaste middx woodlands expanse...gt badger ... more >>

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Sep-2012
    I see we are about the fist test Bager cull why is it every thing has to move over because the human race coming

  • Re: photos by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Sep-2012
    Suppose it is the cows that is giving T B to the badgers??

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Sep-2012
    Keith they think thats what happend in the first place, as i said look out the human race is coming

 
red flags by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 31-Aug-2012
Suddenly my pages have been covered in red flags.
Could someone please remind me how to remove then Thanks.
  
  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Aug-2012
    I've had them for several days also. SCROLL DOWN TO END OF PAGE. GO TO NEXT PAGE AND THEN BACK TO FIRST PAGE. RED MARKS WILL BE GONE!

  • Re: red flags by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Aug-2012
    Pauline go to the bottom of the page klick back to the last page then back that should do it

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Aug-2012
    I know Denis.I've just told Michael that!!

  • Re: red flags by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Aug-2012
    Sorry Pauline i meant Michael

  • Re: red flags by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 31-Aug-2012
    I've had them for about a week.

    They SEEM to make no difference, but I don't know what the reason for them is.

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2012
    mystery of it all...ha.....have had them in the past....but none for a while now...none this week...ha.not seen red flags while now.......coulter detailed item good read in google...all southall and areas 40s 50s etc...rail..footbridge etc...turntable etc...memories in google...several photos wobbly planks footbridge train spotters on our boards...closed long time now...short cut to walls ..but wa... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 31-Aug-2012
    To paraphrase Lord Nelson "I see no red flags!"

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Aug-2012
    YVONNE - there's a message further down in Roy's Rice Pudding whose grandparents lived in West Avenue, called Mr & Mrs Weedon,across the road from Pop Bowden!

  • Re: red flags by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 1-Sep-2012
    There was a boy Weedon lived near us in Manaton Cres nr Jubilee Park can't think of his first name Eric or Brian perhaps.

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2012
    DEAR LYNN ALLEN............THANKYOU pauline think I would never have seen that............yes weedon were our neighbours........we lived top west ave number 16.ackers..with uncle opposite at 23..weedon was 7 or 9 up the top west side.......our len here on site knew them well...he lived by there many years.of his mum and dad goddard ..think he said his mum lived to her 90s..len born 1925...my nan m... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2012
    fred...doing family tree and all local census...and post office directories.....weedon is one of the most noticed names..1800s 1900s local....moved into southall from local as many of us did...north hyde.yeading northolt ..hayes into southall...and weedon..early yrs 1800s ..came in from ruislip...harefield..locally.....1891 census free in google.....many local names can be seen...living working..d... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 1-Sep-2012
    Thanks folks,all is well now.
    I think the original idea of the flag system, was identify offensive entries. Can't see this happening on our site.

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2012
    yes mike we are one of the very best sites.....wonderful....fred ..like your nelson commment ...his poor one eye..clever man knew how to make most of it....I see no flags...message from admiralty...brave..his gt.experience..trafalgar...wonder how..all would have been without the gt turning points..and kaiser and nazi...let alone gradual.advances for the good today..so lucky greenwich portsmouth to... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Sep-2012
    I've repeated my message again Lynne as it's a long way down the site.Yes, I remember Tapioca Puddings Lynne. I lived in Northcote Avenue opposite the Ive family who sold fruit and vegetables. My sister, Jennifer Hackman, used to go to Tudor road school with a girl called Weedon. I can't remember her first name though. My brothers used to put me off when we had Tapioca Pudding as they used to say ... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2012
    PAULINE EVERYBODY...tonight tv..proms..broadway..south pacific west side story porgy bess.dont rain my parade.funny girl.gershwin.show boat.on your toes..bernstein.cole porter..gt white way..gt orchestra singers.god fun....gilbert sullivan was good few days ago....we had have some of the LPs from hayes emi..seen couple on stage.london..

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2012
    fings aint what they used to be........sadly max bygraves passed away last night alzeimers last months..his wife last year....son anthony said who did stage with dad...daughters home oz..2005 when max left millionaire home sandbanks poole...our visits bournemouth he often on stage...and palladium..royal variety..obe....my aunt had his emi singalong LPs..deck cards..origin civil war usa.......tooth... more >>

  • Re: red flags by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Sep-2012
    My red flags have disappeared today

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Sep-2012
    I still had mine this morning!

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2012
    why is it some have some dont ..strange....in past saw them but not for a while...not changed or done anything to computer...ha....repeat of tv ..then now programme at 1.30....perhaps it is series...1953 ..years.....

  • Re: red flags by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 2-Sep-2012
    Hi everyone. My mother's maiden name was Weedon and she was the youngest in a family of 8. I seem to recall my Uncle, Charlie Weedon, lived somewhere around West Avenue. Did West Avenue link on from Dane Road? I had an Auntie Edie who lived in Dane Road, and I think my Uncle and his family lives a bit further along and over the other side of the road.

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2012
    was charlie wife name lou.west ave top.near alexandra ave joining it to top at woolworths......1950s hard to remember family speaking..but did they say weedon at west side west ave number 7 or 9...was lou..for louise suppose........yes dane rd...goes through alley from west ave...alley to northcote ave then alley just there to dane rd....dane rd..went all the way down and swung around to spikes br... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Sep-2012
    Hi Phil. No, West Avenue backed on to Northcote Avenue back gardens, probably from the Northcote Arms. Dane road was next to Saxon road, and was accessible through an alleyway. We used to walk from Northcote Avenue to get to Tudor road school and cut through Dane road. There was an established alley in Dane road to our school which was still there, exactly the same,in 2000, when my brother David took me there.

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Sep-2012
    LYNNE ALLEN - I've just spoken to my sister (maiden name Jennifer Hackman), and she said it was Pamela Weedon that she knew. They were very good friends and went to Tudor road school together and Dormers Wells school. She couldn't remember you, but probably you were a different age. Jennifer was born in 1939! Jennifer excelled in sports at both Tudor road school and Dormers Wells.I have a family p... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Sep-2012
    PHYL - I've just asked my sister whereabouts Pamela Weedon lived, and she said as far as she can remember, it was at the bottom of Dane road, where it leads into Spikes Bridge road. Northcote Avenue was just around the corner.

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Sep-2012
    Just seen Len Godard's entry in 2011, and he said the Weedon family lived at number 9 West Avenue. Len is still helping us with our queries!

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2012
    YES THOUGHT IT WAS 9 OR 7...THANKS LEN..PAULINE..LOVELY....len would have known charlie name and probably his wife..WONDER IF PAMELA WAS OF A BROTHER.....CHARLIE AT WEST AVE AND DAD OF PAMELA LIVING DANE......LIKE WE HAD 5 MEMBERS LIVING ALL AROUND THE ROADS......big families PEOPLE COULD WALK SUNDAYS.visit..NOT NEED BUS.......yes saxon road running between..short only got down to norman ave....I ... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 3-Sep-2012
    PAULINE - I can just about remember Jennifer Hackman when I was at Dormers - we are the same age give a few months either way. An athletic girl, quite tall and easily tanned in the summer. I'm not sure how we would have met, perhaps at Dormers or in Northcote when we moved to 161 in the early 1950s. Wonder if the name Janice Johnson rings a bell with her!

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Sep-2012
    JANICE - I just caught my sister as she was going out of the door. Yes, she remembered you instantly from Dormers Wells. Didn't have any time to disciss it any more, but will get back to you if I hear anything interesting! I think it's lovely.

  • Re: red flags by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Sep-2012
    Janice: we corresponded on the FriendsReunited(as it was!) concerning the Rossoff family. You may recall that my friend Howard Pullen was married to Sheila(Gay) Rossoff. I am sorry to say that Howard died last year. Havev no news about Betty.

  • Re: red flags by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 3-Sep-2012
    Yvonne, my Uncle Charlie's wife's name was Alice. They had quite a big family - can't remember all the names. I was born in 1939 and I seem to recall a cousin about the same age as me. Could have been Pamela, but not sur, the family as a whole was so big and quite widespread throughout Southall. Most of the cousins were a lot older than me, as I was a bit of an "afterthought"!

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Sep-2012
    JANICE - I spoke to my sister again, and she couldn't remember much more. We left Northcote Avenue in 1952, just before the schools would be returning in September. Jennifer was gutted as she would have been Captain at Dormers Wells, but had to go to Heston school instead. She told me to ask you if you remembered the girls in the Farrance family right at the end of Northcote Avenue. The Marks fami... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2012
    thanks phyl....as kids we have knew the ladies as mrs this or that...not hearing their christian names much...locally my aunt and nan born 1914..1890...they knew all their ladies local when they were kids...but custom was very much granny this or that or aunt..out of respect..but not related..........afterthought...ha.....my nan had babies 1911 to 1925.several had late baby...........as cousins...... more >>

  • Re: red flags by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 3-Sep-2012
    Hi All,Thanks for responses they have certainly jogged my memories.
    My Grandparents were Fred and Hilda Weedon. They lived across the road from Pop Bowden not sure if number 7-9. They had a lilac tree in the garden by the front door I think it's still there. We lived in Dane road my brother still does. My Mum Olive's sisters Dorothy and Joyce and brothers Eric and Den all moved out of the area bu... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2012
    BEST WISHES.nan and 6 aunts uncles lived 16 west ave 1928 onwards..did fred hilda have a female a daughter living with them..1950s..woman we knew weedon living there..think....woolies we all used..30s 50s 60s..sad gone.....parkers..used decades...war they did rations along .our broadway shops....23 west ave ackers my uncle.....bowden..lots them ..in southall records...number 6/8..must have been...... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2012
    keep seeing here and for your brother yourself and families..will guide you to our 3 yr collection...rare photos..etc...southall and local...back through all decades...special.amaze..managed..surprise..photos etc...fascinating...you can keep for family..as memories..will show you how.......took hubby back west ave...20 yrs ago...2 yrs ago north rd....2yrs ago...yeading marina.was old brickfields e... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 4-Sep-2012
    Pauline - I think we must have moved to Northcote around the time Jennifer was moving away. I can't recall the name Farrance but do remember the Marks family who lived next door to us for a while. Mrs Marks was a tiny lady, very friendly. There was a daughter who worked in a framing factory - don't know the name or where it was - and she got two frames for some embroidery work that my mother had d... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2012
    if it helps...the well known..framing factory southall ..maany yrs....was haigh....picture frame and did prints...won prizes for their work london exhibitions...in google.....our member is daughter of haigh johnson....was mayor southall...she now lives isle wight.......framing...lots employees lived local at clifton rd..wren ave....by canal..norwood wolfe bridge...couple of our ,members worked the... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 4-Sep-2012
    Hi Lynne. Your mum Olive was my cousin, so your grandad Fred must have been my Uncle. Nice to know that some of the family are still around.

  • Re: red flags by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 4-Sep-2012
    Yvonne - Many thanks. By the way, is the Haigh Johnson member who lives on the IoW first-named Doreen by any chance, do you know?

  • Re: red flags by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 4-Sep-2012
    Michael - Yes, I remember we had an exchange of emails regarding the Pullens and Rosoffs sometime ago. Betty was living, I think, in Basingstoke at one time. She was one of the Faeries in the North Road school production of A Midsummer's Night's Dream along with me, Yvonne Lambert, Joyce Mates, Janet Aldous, Barbara Piner. So many years ago now!

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2012
    she typed several times on our site here 2 yrs ago..or so...dee ferris..father johnson haigh...mayor southall.1958........her mum and dee isle wight..if she still has mum........her photo...southall 1958 mayor members...other mayors..names listed on our photo board 31.flickr photostream........haigh with dickie bow tie.......dee also year ago typed on the other southall site of dylis.....know old ... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2012
    in google....dee ferris facebook...... photo.....of her in recent later life..now..nice photo..isle wight of her....facebook so she belongs to dylis site...dee spoke knew people of north rd..etc...areas there......mr marks is one of the mayor dignitaries in her dads photo.1958....list names people there...in google ..several times the photo.....in google

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Sep-2012
    JANICE - I got it wrong that you moved into the Marks house. Yes, Mrs Marks was a tiny lady with very dark eyes. I will have to ask Jennifer about them as she knew the daughter. I remember Mrs Dudman and her son Paul. He was a great big chap. Didn't ever see a man there though. Mrs Dudman was always singing with her back bedroom window wide open, and she had such a lovely voice! The Tilleys used ... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2012
    in google index our site.....doreen haigh july 2009.typed .born 26 townsend 1937 doc john was number 6...mike replied to her august....dont think found dee on friends reunite....be gt if we could get photos southall from her...she was busy..local helping wk..and mum was elderly..

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Sep-2012
    JANICE - I remember that Doreen Haigh mentioned that she moved at a later date into Norman Avenue, and that wouldn't have been very far from you!

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2012
    dee came half dozen times on site...they moved few times...also..woodlands ct north rd...mike replied to her.both knowing all the shops......then moved to lady marg rd..1948......lovely photo of her at facebook in her perhaps bungalow isle wight...she says dad was interviewed by itv.1958 kelvin gdns crash ..mum got photos....her dad looks good in photo mayor dickie bow tie with mr marks...

  • Re: red flags by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 4-Sep-2012
    Pauline - Yes, Doreen did live in Norman Avenue. I can remember the Sally Army band marching past on their way either to or from church on Sunday mornings, very proudly led by Mr Haigh, later made Mayor. Can't remember any of the other names you mentioned but perhaps my brothers might - will have to ask them next time we're in touch.

  • Re: red flags by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 4-Sep-2012
    Pauline - Of course I knew the Dudmans. Paul married a pretty girl named Marian and they moved Yeading Lane way. This was back in the very early 1960s. I think Mr Dudman was involved in the French Resistance in WW2 and he often went to France with Mrs for holidays and look up old friends but didn't speak much of it - very kindly let my dad used their car when they were away. Only people we knew wh... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Sep-2012
    JANICE - that was lovely to hear about the Dudmans. I always liked Mrs Dudman as she was so interesting to talk to. The daughter in the Mark's family was Kathleen, and Kenny Marks, who had been in the Army, married a girl called Pauline Chalk who was a good friend of Jennifer's and lived next door to us when we lived in North Hyde Lane. Jennifer also went to Heston school with her. She had five ch... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Sep-2012
    My red flags keep returning, although I cab get rid of them as indicated above

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Sep-2012
    Michael - I've still got mine!

  • Re: red flags by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 5-Sep-2012
    Hi Phyl, I am Olive's third daughter born in 1952. There are seven of us still dotted around sadly Mum and Dad died in their early sixties. I only found this site thanks to my Son and I am so glad found it. As a kid I was always told that I would not go far without finding a family member. I often say that's what kept us on our toes as my parent's would not tolerate bad behaviour.I recall the name... more >>

  • Re: red flags by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Sep-2012
    Hi Lynne the paddling pool was in Cranliegh grd. park, Durdans park was at the back of Lady Margaret Road & the canal. welcome to our Southall web site

  • Re: red flags by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Sep-2012
    Just been on Southallboard 52 i did'nt know Trevor Bayliss lived in the Lady Marg. Rd flat as i did but opp Lady Marg. pub/ parade

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2012
    glad you got it....roy couch photos there,,,,yes baylis went to dormers not do well...but tv... and africa inventor.clock radio..lives eel pie island so many yrs now......he went to dormers yr 2000 reunion and 2008 north rd school event....gave a talk..with loads about southall.....

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2012
    then to get each board.........click top right sign out......the click sign in........click sign different user.....type southallboard51@yahoo.co.uk...........password middlesex51.......click sign in....and get each one that way..................nice surprises collection...amazing..nostalgia pictures exsist..when dig search..3yrs now.....

  • Re: red flags by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Sep-2012
    Got Southallboard51 up pic of Lady Marg. Rd. finishing at what is now Shackelton Rd circa 1910

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2012
    great...as you know..they all click enlarge full screen.......or bottom right of computer screen..% magnify..arrow to 125..150..or 200...enlarges...glad you like lady marg etc ..at 51........board49..48...47...is there..etc etc.

  • Re: red flags by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 5-Sep-2012
    Hi Lynne. You Grandma Hilda must have been my mum's sister-in-law I think (gets complicated dooesn't it!). I'm quite a bit older than you. Have you also got a sister Daphne?

  • Re: red flags by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 5-Sep-2012
    P.A. Lynne. I haven't got any daughters, but two sons born in 1968 and 1970. Both married and we have five grandchildren.

  • Re: red flags by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 6-Sep-2012
    Hi Phyl, yes eldest sister Daphne sadly no contact but life goes on. My Parents were the glue that held us all together. We are all spread out now creating our on Family networks. I went to Western Road for a short time and two girls there called Loretta and (?) and mum said they were my second cousins. They used to visit your mum. I recall another lady who I often saw with your mum who used to ha... more >>

  • Re: red flags by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 6-Sep-2012
    Thanks Den for correction. I recall going through a gate at back end of Spike bridge park to get there and never stopped long because it was always packed. We sometimes went to the chippie in Lady Margaret Road before going back home.Sometimes went to the Library in the area on other side of road. When I went to Dormers Wells our headmistress Mrs Morris (Dolly Morris)used to give me two afternoons... more >>

  • Re: red flags by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 6-Sep-2012
    Yvonne you mentioned Grubins. I recall it always had a strong smell of dried tea and the bell always rang as you entered. I visited the area on Friday and saw the state of the Northcote Arms- whatevers happening to it. Many memories of Grandad Fred who liked a drink or two. He used to pop through the alley in west avenue and be at the bar in minutes. Sometimes when we went to get him by entering t... more >>

  • Re: red flags by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Sep-2012
    Lynne would the chip shop be Huttons on the end of Lady Marg. parade. If you go on my Flickr photostream d.sexton428 there are pic of the paddling pool & park today the pool has been filled in & the tuck shop is gone

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Sep-2012
    Hi Lynne - I'd forgotten all about the bell ringing in Grubhams shop in Northcote Avenue. I have some very fond memories of the years we used that old shop. My mum used to get everything on tick until pay day. Mind you, it was quite a bit before your time Lynne - I was born in 1931! I used to take a bottle up there to get it filled with vinegar and drank quite a lot on the way home as I loved it.... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Sep-2012
    lynne...everybody.....you are 2 yrs after me and 2 yrs before my cousins local at west ave......dolly morris...retired back to her birth haversford west far west wales..with mrs grey her secretary out that way......tweedy...elderll...told me airhostess was glorified waitress.........she had it prayers old hut back field lunches...mrs coutts LP record assembly by her grandpiano...coutts miss little... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Sep-2012
    meant to say coutts littler were at yr 2000 reunion there...mrs foot library english was good to me and my friends marilyn crank...6 yrs worked for her library she did my reference to bbc tv white city..reference library worked loved...hubby and me visited her all her life..3 children grandchildren ..she was lovely person all her life..they phoned me for her funeral..morris died..1980s elderly...a... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Sep-2012
    lynne.....our site mar 2011.maggie shaw lives france..went to dormers 1961 to 3...robinson...her gdad goodall.....darts northcote pub built 1907...my aunt won cups ladies team..photos northcote etc etc on our boards here......dane rd entrance small between houses..you went through to corner spikes.canal bridge there...high hedges.pah curve round to main entrance huge gates...used to run through th... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Sep-2012
    The flags have gone. Hooray!

  • Re: red flags by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 8-Sep-2012
    Our house in Dane road had two rooms and a kitchen with a big stone larder. Although both rooms had fire places the front room one was seldom used "sunday Best" Winter evenings we often sat around the fire toasting crumpets or great chunky slices of bread my brother had brought home from Prices yard. Lovely meat dripping from Sunday Roast which no doubt clogged a few arteries but we loved it. I la... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2012
    yes the good front room..parlour..for best....west ave 1928 built..one living room only..with..kitchenette behind...and a bathroom..at some stage put on at side....so only one room one fire...fork I used for cut off nobby of bread..tasted great bit of black coal effect perhaps....ha..hot red flames made my face hot..mat for any spits of hot bits from flames....coke when went smokeless zone....drip... more >>

  • Re: red flags by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 8-Sep-2012
    Dolly Morris was strict but fair to me she knew I hated a certain lesson so channeled my energy at the Eventide Home. I remember there being two a Mrs Evans who taught Arts and crafts two Jones's both who taught Pe one was Eva Jones who was friendly the other Bailey Jones who was a bit of a tirant who if you upset her made you run round the track until she said stop. The PE kits were'nt very fashi... more >>

  • Re: red flags by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 8-Sep-2012
    Den, Yes that was it's name just along from Lady Margaret Pub if my memory serves me correctly. Our usual chippie was Greenford Fish bar although it was in Southall high street. Friday or pay night and one or two of us would be sent up to get our tea. We always got a small bag to eat on the way home and always asked for crackling the battery bits that came from the fish. We used to soak it with vi... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Sep-2012
    yes we had jones PE and mrs short..made those tennis skirts in sewing and cookery apron..bailey jones she may be of 2nd war wrens..chatted of her gay life..xmas cake we made .teacher gave me lift home..to grapes hayes she went onto hillingdon..melting moments baked apple..sunbathing local riverside pub garden yesterday..2 behind us chatted of old ealing broadway..said the abc cinema..opposite town... more >>

  • Re: red flags by Bryan Martyn (Member 10242855) on 19-Nov-2012
    Mr Haigh lived in Norman Avenue, opposite where I lived in Northcote Avenue.
    He knocked on our door one day to ask why we had so many cars outside our house. There was only two in 1965. Cheek!

  • Re: red flags by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2012
    yes johnson haigh did live there....other part of southall before...neighbour said used to see him with his motorbike.....great side entry to spikes park..they say 2013 money huge.....revamp there......dozen of us lived those roads....concrete front gardens now..cars up......yellow lines local towns.....permit sticker from house holder...easier to go on bus...hardly possible park most roads places... more >>

 
Old factory in Southall by Karen Connolly (Member 10214339) on 22-Aug-2012
Hi

My Grandad used to work at Poulton and Knowles (spelling might be wrong) in the 1940's or 1950's. I think it was a dairy produce or spread factory (took over from Otto Monstead or Maypole).

However, I have googled and yahoo'd it but can't come up with a... more >>
  
  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2012
    if you go back little bit here just couple pages...think it was fish meat pastes..think one of our members mums workd there..might have been len goddard writing about it..think they wore clogs...wet floors....over the other side old.southall factory...it was the page talking about fish on back of fisherman mural huge in southall green other factory mike braden spoke of.....mine worked kearley tic... more >>

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2012
    len calls it noels...nov 09..page..he says ...was before walls factory southall .walls took over.pn factory.....meat tinned for war reserved occupation.bbc memories item in google...liz lister dad worked there ..they were bombed out 3 times...lived park ave ..went school north rd....PN factory..got hit..war bombs..he was butcher there.....2010/11 len talks here of factory again smell fish etc and ... more >>

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2012
    brent rd southall it says....PN.. taken over by bachelor soups peas..of unilever..merger with walls as well....6 photos in google...adverts picnic..jars pots..jelly mould...preserved meats fish used wars by service men..tongue.veal..beef..started 1880 belgravia.steam works..buckingham palace rd..thames rail local for use.....hard rough work .len spoke of his mum..wet and .conditions there..southal... more >>

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2012
    london gazette 1938 land registry in google ..bridge rd margarine rd and havelock rd land..to poulton noel factory......kew archive has indexed archive 1940s ..p noel papers etc..kew and ealing local history library mr oates librarian.ealing broadway...nice photos china pots...adverts etc our booard..soup..veal beef sausage brawn.chicken.ox tongue..p noel preserves picnics sunday tea..wars used by... more >>

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Aug-2012
    Karen: Your entry on Poulton and Noel brought back memories. During WW2 we had initially two young men refugees billeted on us. They worked at PN from 1940 to ~1943. (Renee Duboco and Marcel ???)Renee remained in England after the war, and married an English girl

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Karen Connolly (Member 10214339) on 23-Aug-2012
    Thanks for this. No wonder I couldn't find anything if I was spelling it incorrectly. Thinking back, I have seen some of the google entries before. At least I know it existed. Sadly my mum is 91 and has dementia so her memory isn't good.
    The references to Batchelors puts it into perspective as Mum used to say that Grandad worked at Batchelors too before Kearley and Tonge.

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Aug-2012
    best wishes to your mum and you...my aunt was at kearley 1950s supervisor..after she retired the girls came to see her..she used to help make their money up piece work..willans ackers.......their metal tins mixed biscuits we had fridays.at home west ave....bike to factories....you and your friends think some lived greenford ave..our photo board mr thompson rowbottom number 77 and along there 1945 ... more >>

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Aug-2012
    Great news no new runway for Heathrow does this mean Sipson & the area around are now safe

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Aug-2012
    on news again last 2 days.....will keep seeing....incase decision...for sure...tonys dad on 1911 census magpies cottage along there..mundy /butler....she and family from east bedfont..quarry work they all did heathrow gravel...and mkt gadening fruit etc..they all did 1800s.....free census month now..ancestry and oz free ships immigration..did mty norwood green 1870 to new york....and son holiday t... more >>

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Aug-2012
    good actress s lancashire..was rachel corrie...wednesday night ..britain then now 1953 coronation those chat at 60 yrs street party....photos our board stelrads,,club st anselm..witch hat wigwam playground..walls saus southall..inside ..women..billy smart southall pk..and carnival.southall ,,,etc..many there....

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Aug-2012
    typing a subject in google often..brings up a photostream.flickr..........type oswald rd off broadway........shows ours....poulton southall factory skipper sardines...kearley....crown cork...quaker ....there.....

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Aug-2012
    Denis
    I'm afraid that I do not think Sipson is safe. Cameron is destined to be a "one term P.M.", and I know from my own contacts that this is all wrapped up with HS2 and Boris Island Airport. Cameron may even be gone before the next election. For poor Sipson, I think it is a question of "When" rather than "if". What is left of our beloved Middlesex is destined for the concrete mixer.

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 29-Aug-2012
    My mother-in-law, Hilda Hutnell, used to be the tea lady at the Kearley and Tongue biscuit factory in Brent Road, which is now a Bestway Cash n Carry. She worked there for many years, at least right through the 50's, 60's and perhaps earlier. She used to be able to buy tins of broken biscuits at the staff shop. I seem to remember they had a syndicate of some sort which won a bit of money once, pr... more >>

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Aug-2012
    Thanks Keith thats sad to hear, whent on a school trip Lady.Marg. Rd. to a farm at Sipson 1954

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Aug-2012
    Money ruins everything, old Middx will be no more

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Aug-2012
    yes....remember my aunt talked of syndicate 50s....seemed nice huge tin biscuits ..layers mixed was good at west ave fri nights....photos kearley etc on board52......skippers ...poulton..you tube in google has torch iron bridge....and 3 horseshoes ..town hall and south end lady marg hot sunny day...best wish para opening tonight queen.....sherwood book author..meetings talks over 30yrs...was front... more >>

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Aug-2012
    in google...celia....gdad george clifton brown gave talks local hist soc...her dad..high st drapers.southall 1900s...1947..1958 she says south rd drapers...somerset 1800s family...will type clifton brown drapers when time....hat from there 1900s our mr meads said for his mum who visited clif browns at their home norwood green to death......photos shop and high st our boards.....

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Aug-2012
    Thanks Yvonne for mentioning that you were going to look uo "Clifton Brown Drapers" when you got time. Well I did, and lo and behold what comes up under Page 5 at the top is "Growing Up With Southall From 1904" Memories of Mr R.J.Meads. It's like opening Pandora's Box. Haven't had time to read all of it, but it's wonderful. Even mentions a German and his wife having a bakers at the top of Northcote Avenue!

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Aug-2012
    yes meads loads pages there ..have been dibbing into it last year ..gt....really good..lots meaty pages lovely read...celia wrote and gave talk at west middx local family history society...her gdad 1900s started clif brown from somerset they came..her dad...also...she lives harwich now...1958 says high st move to south rd...£4.50 hat ..meads bought his mum...her sister married..one of family....l... more >>

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Aug-2012
    Just shown Olympic torch leaving Havalock Road Mosque last night 6 O/ck news

  • Re: Old factory in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Aug-2012
    Sorry my mistake not Havalock Road mosque

 
gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Aug-2012
today.....picture of new powerhouse by purplexed company...£250 million.emi hayes site..14 sections buildings..revamp.homes etc...2 just paddled canoeboat length grandunion canal 137 miles...badgers herons.ducks.for charity..uxbridge ops hq.airbase..war bunker churchill and king visited.open to public 7sept..and they hope to every weekend...1970 found table map in cupboard.room shows table plotti... more >>   
  • Re: gazette and also general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Aug-2012
    Addy, Google Battle of Britain bunker

  • Re: gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Aug-2012
    today gazette.RAF VET WENT BACK THIS WEEK DROVE AROUND SAW SOME HUTS HE LIVED IN..uxbridge aerodrome.....PHOTOS LOCAL CANAL...HERON SCULPTURE..AND MANY BRIDGES last 10 yrs have mural nice paintings under
    ...new photos board52....

  • Re: gazette and also general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Aug-2012
    Yvonne it seems ICI Kynoch had a factory at Hayes 1914/18 as well as the Yeading factory in 1939/45

  • Re: gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Aug-2012
    ah thats interesting...1st war hmv.factory hayes also....my gt annie west lived..by and worked there..with her landlard slater...1st war munitions....mr collier written nice booklet in the hayes hillingdon.com site in google...lots photos...book by miss lethridge..1917 had her limbs blown off hayes.she was 17..took many yrs get little bit compensation....

  • Re: gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Aug-2012
    worth..few yrs trying southall sites etc in google..just found my infant junior class mate..her brother 1942 southall now south australia been back couple times but says changes...she is norfolk..all over country everybody goes ha,,,,1940s 50s they never forget all their loads of southall and local areas memories..amazing...lots chat.....like mine they go back to 1800s local.....

  • Re: gazette and also general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Aug-2012
    Not only is the Red Lion closing they not printing the Danndy any more

  • Re: gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Aug-2012
    yes yesterday..desperate dan gone did they say 1939 ish.start...said might digitalise or something....farewell party at redlion..must have been interesting......photo board52 junction pub open canal..1950 all men outside lord wolsey pub coach outing..hambrough pub before fire 1981 and new one after...woolfe rubber factory front 1951.photo....and mike told us of water tank..front manor hse gdn..war... more >>

  • Re: gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Aug-2012
    this week gold painted letter boxes post box..for gold olympic medals......mo...the runner..of hounslow feltham .................isleworth college.gold letter box there

  • Re: gazette and also general by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 18-Aug-2012
    Denis-sorry to learn thar the Dandy is no more.
    I remember getting the firsr issue when it firsr came out-pity I didn't keep a copy!
    I bought that fist issue at Amsdens newsagents in North Road

  • Re: gazette and also general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Aug-2012
    It said the first sale of the Dandy went on sale in 1937 costing 2d with a freee whistle!

  • Re: gazette and also general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Aug-2012
    Michael if you had that first edition it would be worth mega bucks now

  • Re: gazette and also general by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 18-Aug-2012
    Whilst at primary school I used to go to my Grandmother's house each day for lunch (cutting through the cemetery, which strictly speaking we were not supposed to do) and every Monday I had The Dandy and every Thursday The Beano sitting at my place at the end of the table. Every Christmas I got The Dandy Annual. Very very sorry to see it go.

  • Re: gazette and also general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Aug-2012
    In my brother's autobiography he said that my dad used to bring the Dandy and the Beano in on his way home from his nightwork shift at the AEC. He used to get in while we were all getting ready for school. I remember it, and there was the usual argument as to whose turn it was to read it. My brother said he got round this problem by walking up the road to meet my dad so that he could get his "paws... more >>

  • Re: gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Aug-2012
    korky cat...but beano was one dad brought to me fridays from shift work....short cut havelock cemetery we took .was sundays off bus from north southall.nice walk manor grounds.into fence gate north side graves..flowers tap there nans grave.....been locked 20yrs now..last 5 yrs church ave locked..only havelock pub rd gate open..photos all southall green areas all board52...south bridge by..denis wo... more >>

  • Re: gazette and also general by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 19-Aug-2012
    Following Dandy, I later got the first issues of Beano,and Knock Out when they appeared.The mind boggles at how nuch I would be worth if I still had all three!
    Before that my regular comics were Film Fun, and Micky Mouse. Also sround were Chips, and Comic Cuts-they were around when my dad was a boy(1890's).

  • Re: gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Aug-2012
    key hole kate..bbc says 1st edition sold 2004 £20350.for man in essex he had 1st edition beano sold £12100..they say if you have the toys with box..sell for twice value....I liked beano because small to hold..cousin across road...had floor covered in comics weekly..lots huge big tall ones.his dad out a builder...his mum factory..keyhole child..keep him quiet 1 st ..hour indoors ...till he ran al... more >>

  • Re: gazette and also general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Aug-2012
    I think the best comic for boys was the Eagle, i still have 2 Micky Mouse annuals from the 40s

  • Re: gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Aug-2012
    2nd edition dandywith plastic jumping frog free gift. sold for £4000...1999 was 3007th weekly edition..longest running...paralympics this thurs fri starts northola fields 5 pm each day event..greenwood towers..sounds .fires..torch.tour...for borough ealing venue....photos general board52 memories.and mikes water tank war firebombs..manor hse grounds photo.

  • Re: gazette and also general by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 20-Aug-2012
    Having all these names of comic`s I have to add the two that I enjoyed. They were The Champion & the Adventure. Rockfist Rogen was a fighter pilot in the Champion others I can not remember at this time.

  • Re: gazette and also general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Aug-2012
    Ron - In the Champion there was Jet Jackson, a racing car driver, Ginger Nutt, the boy who takes the biscuit, Colwyn Dane, a detective and Dixie Jim who was a sort of cowboy.

  • Re: gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Aug-2012
    BBC REPORTS........peoles war accounts
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/04/a3695204.shtml
    they were of regina rd southall.......got house rebuilt ater war.....spoke of heston airport also.....in google

  • Re: gazette and also general by thompson (Member 10241148) on 22-Aug-2012
    Interesting to see that Southall was used for the location for this weeks Silent Witness.

    As I have not been back to the town for over ten years, it was interesting to see that the cafe is still situated on the railway bridge and that the tunnel under the rail tracks in the Straight was used in the filming.

    I used the tunnel to cycle from Greenford Ave to Clarence St, when visiting my father's family.

  • Re: gazette and also general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Aug-2012
    Hi Thompson. Thanks for mentioning "Silent Witness" being filmed in Southall. I have just been watching some of it on BBC i-player. It was great to see Southall Gasometer and "the Castle", plus the Mosque that can be seen at the bottome of Havelock road. The only thing is that "the Castle" has gone now I believe, and made into flats. This makes me wonder exactly how long ago this film was made.

  • Re: gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Aug-2012
    it still looks like the building..steam train...watertower the castle...photos on our boards...the flats are inside......some windows down..they had to preserve the same look the brickwork.........think it was converted..adapted..some yrs ago now........still.same facade...brick high as watertower with castle turret top...so photos...as flats now still looks much the same..........as always did...... more >>

  • Re: gazette and also general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Aug-2012
    Thanks Yvonne. That's good to know that it's all still there.

  • Re: gazette and also general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Aug-2012
    says 80 ft tall grade 2 listed..1984 completed adapt to 37 appartments.for 54 people...narrow windows all around .but 1991 heating and floor neeeded repair £700000..grant....says 1895.1903 built ..q victoria.goes past on train demands more attractive castle turrets added to please the eye.of old water tower....red brick...ended 1968...70 acres gas site land restore..expensive toxic..but many hund... more >>

 
general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Aug-2012
says..redlion...greenford high st....sold to be flats...friday 10th aug ends.........wont have trouble people for dwelling....because this yr cardinal wiseman catholic senior school..now all along pavement opposite high buildings...seems twice size.at greenford rd....so they move to area for kids to go to ..larger school.....say dormers 1400 students.....girls school we had nearly 40 in class.a st... more >>   
  • Re: general by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Aug-2012
    The loss of the Red Lion, Greenford, would be a terrible loss of a local land mark. I hope the facade is preserved.
    The famous Red Lion, Tolworth was converted into flats a couple of years ago - a fabulous old building, gutted by (so called) "developers"

  • Re: general by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 8-Aug-2012
    Sometime during the early 1950s, one of my uncles (Sam Johnson) was the Landlord of the Red Lion in Greenford. If my memory serves me right, the flat above had a large sitting room leading on to a balcony overlooking a garden with an ornamental pond in the centre. I remember going down narrow stairs with one side of wood panelling in which was concealed a sliding panel so that whoever was on the s... more >>

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Aug-2012
    sliding panel..great.........in google..several places of the selling.....says..garden out back...carpark around for 15 cars...2 flats upstairs..2 bedrooms..managers office..couple bars downstairs 2 toilets..shell food place used to be to right hut..now kentucky fried chicken.place.was shoe shop 1st shop along..travel agent.cafe used by bus staff...old maps 1770 greenford 1800s..only little villag... more >>

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Aug-2012
    yes says ..red lion...and ..black horse by canal...there by 1726.....rural ale houses were needed...1692 record of greenford ale hse......black horse open at canal....they need to name new flats as landmark corner of greenford there as ...of redlion...somehow...greenford community centre building original was of years 1700s.railway hotel pub..oldfield lane greenford..refurbished now.......wolf pu... more >>

  • Re: general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Aug-2012
    Just posted pic of bill from Iron bridge to change engine in Dads A30 van 1959

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Aug-2012
    thats good £49 engine van..ironbridge .your lady marg.address.1959...the year we had sticks rock from seaside..this year £1.worthing.while going to arundel.castle huge.prince charles opened gardens..great crown dances top fountain..wetlands boat trip guide reeds.watervole...rock £1 each ordinary size.......pink..name running through..............just gone through crooked billet a4 slough...arm ... more >>

  • Re: general by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Aug-2012
    Yvonne, I live only 100 yards from the wall of Arundel Castle, up by the cathedral

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Aug-2012
    lovely...huge cathedral....we went in castle..20yrs ago,,,,,,this time new dukes gardens opened by charles...gt photos took...dancing crown top ftn........gt wetlands 3hrs so good......dukes chapel....mary queen scots duke being catholic......lovely town...buildings etc.....river..bridge..worthing nice also art gallery museum pier ..yr 1900 cinema......etc...we enjoyed week........

  • Re: general by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 11-Aug-2012
    Does anybody remember going to Wembley Speedway in the 1950`s? I can recall Bill Kitchen, Split Waterman et al. The half-time entertainment was provided by Peg-Leg Pete who dived from a high tower into a tank of water. He really did have one leg.

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Aug-2012
    photo kitchen and all in google....big site there lots photos 1950 1953 to 1957..1940s etc wembley...programmes..events..pictures..oakley.king.gooch.williams..price..abernathy.sormander..wilks..crosby.barnett..bottoms..gilbert.cross...len spoke several times of seeing peg leg pete..southall.....photo 77 greenford ave our flickr photo site..mr thompson all lived..ve day and after..and spikes park s... more >>

  • Re: general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Aug-2012
    Hi Roy - Yes I remember going to Wembley Speedway in the 1950's. I, too, remember Split Waterman. In fact, my first date with my husband was when I went with him to a Speedway race there. I do remember that we got covered with black dust from the track at times! We used to wait for a bus just along by the Palace in South road. I think there was a sweet shop there. Happy days!

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2012
    sport......mo farah gold runner....his father born hounslow..mo went to feltham college ..isleworth school...age 29.....age 8 left somalia for london...his dad went on holiday to somalia met his mother.......27 july 2013 olympic park opens for all to see...some adaptation...gt closing ceremony tonight....photos spikes pk..money develop on our flickr....red lion..dormers juniors...interesting story... more >>

  • Re: general by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 13-Aug-2012
    Does anybody recall "Fag-End Annie". When I was a kid in the 1930s, I can remember seeing her walking round The Green picking up cigarette ends from the gutter. I can recall that she seemed to have a large head.

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Aug-2012
    ROY.......just noticed your photo ...in google....flickr roy couch's photostream........excellent photo railway arms...what date about 1920s 30s......horace couch and whole group other pub regulars..outside......toby ales stout...13 may feb.2012 you did it....lovely...good photo......

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Aug-2012
    roy.......your photo looks like large corner pub...railway hotel..bottom station bridge.97 south rd junction park ave.....1926 landlady flo wilson..1914 eleanor simpson....became glassy junction..because of lots windows..planning permission there..adapt etc...etc..restaurant or what...do you know any names...horace couch dickie bow tie and cap.......what is the shield...and the event they are all ... more >>

  • Re: general by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Aug-2012
    Just as a point of interest, and because this thread began by talking about the Red Lion, Greenford, I would say that this morning, I had to go to Gosport, an area that I once knew very well, for my first visit in 17 years. Because of the dockyards etc, Gosport once had a pub on almost every corner. Now, it seems to have a CLOSED, former pub on every corner and probably like the Red Lion, you... more >>

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Aug-2012
    we go portsmouth gosport often ..yes long yrs loads houses gosport....navy...pubs history...submarine..and across ferry..the hard..historic pubs..we enjoyed again there last yr...henry 8th on top saw mary rose go down...tony had time lapse on google at weekend...saw new housing for mary rose......hounslow garrison town famous for pub every corner long high st...fuselliers of cavalry hounslow barra... more >>

  • Re: general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Aug-2012
    Keith my uncle buried in the Royal Navel Hospital cemetery Haslar Gosport died in the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 was in the Royal Air force at Lee on Solent

  • Re: general by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Aug-2012
    You wouldn't recognise much of Haslar now, Denis, but for the cemetary

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Aug-2012
    I like the old green ferry that goes gosport..we have relative lived hanworth.....she married man went 1950 to gosport lived gosport with him..died 1973 gosport...ROY....JUST SEEN YOUR ENTRY 2004 NOV..YOUR FLICKR PHOTO IS 1926 RALIWAY HOTEL PUB.BENCH OLD USUAL BROWN BAR CHAIRS.OUTSIDE 23 MEN..DARTS LEAGUE WINNING TEAM..LOOKS LIKE PLAYED NORTHOLT TEAM..WOULD SOME MEN BE RAIL WORKERS OR SOUTHALL GRE... more >>

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Aug-2012
    PHOTOS RED LION GREENFORD BORAD 52...ROY COUCH DAD AND 23 PEOPLE..OUTSIDE RAILWAY PUB SOUTH RD SOUTHALL.....WOOLF RUBBER WORKS 1951 RESEMBLE ART DECO FRONT LIKE A SMALL HOOVER FACTORY...HAYES BRIDGE......SOUTHALL STATION 1954..KIOSK WAVERLEY.20 CIGS 3/7.AND ADERT WALL CAPSTAN.........SOUTHALL PK..CARNIVAL.1959..JUNE WHITE QUEEN DAUGHTER LANDLORD 3 TUNS PUB..1958 WAS STEELE.........1934 ON NORTHOLT... more >>

  • Re: general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Aug-2012
    I enjoyed the photo of Southall Station 1954 on Southallboard52 as I had forgotten what the B.D.V. kiosk looked like. Does anyone know what the initials B.D.V. stood for?

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2012
    THOUGHT YOU MIGHT LIKE IT..LUCKY TO GET NEAR YOUR YRS.....KEEP WONDER WHAT KIOSK.INITIALS..TO DO WITH OWNER..STANDS FOR,,,,,OUR CHRIS...THE FAMILY SHOE REPAIRS NORTH RD..NAMED AFTER THE DAUGHTER RENEE.......BUT THIS IS TOBACCO SHOP ETC....WAVERLEY CIGS..CAPSTAN...HUGE ADVERTS ALL AROUND..NEXT TO..SOUTHALL STATION NORTH SIDE.1954......PHYLIS MIGHT KNOW..HER DAD..USED OPPOSITE REGULARILY..

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2012
    b.d.v. tobacco...adverts..company in google...

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2012
    lovely photo board52..boyd.dibrett.virginia...MIKE..LOVEY LATIN IN GOOGLE..FOR UK BRAND..PIPE OF PEACE.so benedictus etc.......godfeys phillips uk..firm..their b.d.v. brand .tobacco.....50s.huge life of cigs..roll up cigs rizler paper.roll up..senior service tips..etc..silk..etc....adverts...life was swamped with cigs pipes etc...lovely later worked home..etc..tv...road adverts..cinema..massive de... more >>

  • Re: general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Aug-2012
    I tapped in Google "tobacco kiosk at Southall station 1954 what do initials stand for" and several lists came up.In one of them it mentions "soldiers cigarette, inscribed at base 'B.D.V. Extra Mild Cigarettes, 10 for 3d". Another one mentions "BDV cigarette factory." Still can't find what initials stand for though.

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2012
    10 for 3d......gosh the costs..knew of in 50s...my aunt said when they put it up even more..will stop..so angry gov tax...she did age 70 but 80s...lungs let her down and throat..suffered so bad..but social work home..30s 40s etc..they all loved it..ben.dominus vobiscum...the latin nickname..in google..pipe peace.......but the brand name..tobacco..was boyd..dibrell..virginia.....1900 to 1948 popul... more >>

  • Re: general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Aug-2012
    Thanks for the adverts and tin of BDV cigarettes Yvonne on Southallboard52. I loved the caption on the advert "Weekend trips to Australia for far less coupons" and "Just like hand-made". I wonder how many coupons were needed in the 1930's, and who would want to go to Australia for the week end?

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2012
    lovely laugh out loud.pauline thanks..you read it before had chance thanks....amaze all the promotions over years...cigs coupons collect free gifts .etc..petrol ..green shield stamps etc...ha...advertisers try hard...ha..worked for library inst advertisers belgrave sq london once...but great lunch breaks around hyde park corner and buck palace...playing cards of dbv..king of clubs..king of tobacco... more >>

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2012
    denis.....another photo western rd on board52...flexman garage coaches fina petrol...195 double deck bus outside there 1960s...dalton weekly huge adv on bus....christie in southall ealing...booklet...on board 52....he was 30s 40s trouble police...arrested southall pk...of palace cinema...etc...etc..6 articles in google...and ealing librarian oates....mondays tv 2 films at moment on....also famous ... more >>

  • Re: general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Aug-2012
    Thanks Yvonne will have a look, do you think we mite banned with this thread for cigarette advertising

  • Re: general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Aug-2012
    By the way last comment was LOL

  • Re: general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Aug-2012
    Hi Denis, with all due respects, Yvonne and I were not advocating cigarette advertising nowadays, we were merely commenting on advertising by a company called BDV in the 1930's. We all know that cigarette advertising nowadays should be completely banned.

  • Re: general by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 14-Aug-2012
    I've just found the following information about BDV ciggies. It's thought BDV stood for Boyd & Dibrell Virginia, the US suppliers of the tobacco. Another theory is that it stood for the Latin: Benedictus dominus vobiscum loosely translated means The Pipe of Peace. Needless to say, I didn't do the translation, it was done for me!

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2012
    huge difference these days..hear less about..tobacco.thank goodness.......but they worked hard deserved..pleasure yrs ago....myself tony were surrounded by it 1950s..we say..our own lives at last .work home leisure..have forgotten about it since 1970....much has gone out of fashion....www.flickr.southallboard52...lots memories....flickr photostream...sometimes shows up easy in google...with any pi... more >>

  • Re: general by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 14-Aug-2012
    While watching the new version of Upstairs Downstairs they showed the lady of the house going to the Womans League of Health & Beauty.
    I had forgotten all about it but recalled going to a branch in Southall somewhere around the mid 1940's, just after I left school. It was somewhere near Southall Park but that is all I can remember.
    Have we any one on here that remembers it and can job my memo... more >>

  • Re: general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Aug-2012
    I know Pauline i was joking hence the LOL on the end

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2012
    in google jean...womens..ruislip lido..grass whole exercise routine navy..knickers type thing white tops..whole routine..1936..exercise..british pathe news.film...lots womens..league in google wembley 1948 olympics..they entertained....in google....and 1938 pageant wembley june stadium...hope you find southall....local history library for southall at ealing...email...jonathon oates he is very help... more >>

  • Re: general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Aug-2012
    Hi Denis - trust me to get it wrong. I thought you were sending LOTS OF LOVE ha ha! Love Pauline

  • Re: general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Aug-2012
    Pauline no laugh out loud its ok

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2012
    RED LION IN GOOGLE TODAY...GREENFORD....EXCHANGED CONTRACTS...CLOSED WEEKEND REGULARS MOURN LOSS..LANDLADY EVANS.AGE37 MET HUBBY IN PUB..ECONOMY NOT POSS KEEP GOING..SHELLFISH BAR WAS TO RIGHT OUT FRONT YRS....HUNTER 76 OF ALLENBY RD BEEN GOING THERE OVER 20YRS HIS ALLENBY PUB CLOSED NOW A SHOP...2YRS AGO....DAVE 46 RAN AROUND IT AS KID 1960 HIS DAD WORKED THE BAR...2 OLD LADIES GO EVERY WEEK FOR ... more >>

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2012
    jean....detailed film google british pathe....1938 pinner middlesex.50 of them.womens league..exercises..filmed.....and 1939 wembley stadium..100s of them little white blouse navy nickers...all exercises..carry banners group town they belong...leader lady douglas....new photos aec berk tanker under iron bridge ys ago .bus traffic..etc lots new photos..odeon ten pin bowl at uxbridge rd.....farewell... more >>

  • Re: general by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 15-Aug-2012
    Yes I remember speedway at Wembly great fun my husbands mum used to knit wembly speedway jumpers red & white that was before I met him though. I also remember the lady who picked up fag ends. She was often ridiculed by people who thought she was drunk,however she was a very sick women I beleive she had a similar condition as John Merick she nearly always wore a veil over the back of her head as a ... more >>

  • Re: general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Aug-2012
    thats sad sandy.growths.and body problems...and at the southall green area sections of southall hospital...did and still does social problems..departments..illnesses..specialised...for many yrs...and unable get job like that would not have the money..sad that lady....no social and nhs etc....those old days..back further in time..not much help for her..and others....

 
SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2012
3PM.LIVE.VIDEO..ON GOOGLE..OLYMPIC2012.COM......http://www.london2012.com/torch-relay/video/live.html
3PM BROUGH HILLINGDON..AT UXBRIDGE....5PM NORTHALA FIELDS BORIS BECKER FLAME...AFTER DOWN LADY MARG RD..UXBRIDGE RD HANWELL EALING BROADWAY..PARTY NIGHT WALPPOLE PK..FLAME ..FIRWKS
YELLOW VAN..2 COACHES OUTRIDER..FAME CHAPS RUN ALONG..AND WHITE TRACJ SUIT TORCH BEARER..KISS FLANME PASS ON RELAY.... more >>
  
  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2012
    tony says......in google....london2012.com........................live torch..then when goes in van to denham..van down western ave...no live run....but then..borough ealing........live northala fields..party...northolt.................leaves..goes.taylor woodrow roundabout..down lady marg rd southall.........crowds see on computer cheer..taking photos......left east uxbridge rd..ealing hospital w... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2012
    boris becker..tennis..starts torch off from northala fields..northolt....lady marg rd..crowds...flags...great on live film....in google...free...............some people come on bikes...western ave closed for van torch flame to get through rush hour traffic......polish war memorial raf..target roundabout empty road for them.....outriders.siren.........google says red lion.pub.closing.for last time ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Jul-2012
    Did Lady Marg. Rd. teatime brilliant got pics put up on my Fliker site tomorow

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Jul-2012
    If it had gone another 4 days it would have been 68 yrs. to the day for 1948 a few weeks later i started at Lady Marg Rd infants school

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2012
    well done denis will look your site later..hot 30 degrees..crowds everywhere uxbridge hillingddon..northala boris becker.........lady marg ..has.10 photos on board52.....6 different girls did relay there..longest rd southall....7 runners turns high st to iron bridge..viaduct .live film going over hanwell bridge carnival crowd hanwell west ealing..fireworks music ealing pk..night...harrow on the hi... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2012
    tony says ..austerity games 1948 july...4 days difference amazing.........new this year to uk..to do such amaze...whole tour ..10 mls from anybody in uk....other countries may try it in future...huge success..brings people together joy.....so ........tony says where what towns did flame torch go 1948...wembley stadium..venue........athletes lodged greenford etc etc..1948..lodgings..........white c... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2012
    gt on line free live film..torch running...harrow shop centre..harrow on hill famous school..tony few mates out of office..just there they changed torch..gt pics he took.workers all in shorts tshirts.they let you take photo 3 mates with..other torch at pavement.he took.........wembley stadium tonight.queen our favourite cowes isle wight today,,they open queen vic private beach osborn 1st time ever... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jul-2012
    Pics up on Flickr not the best was crowded, thats right about our Middesex

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jul-2012
    PS Some more pics latter but not of torch

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2012
    yes tony tried today.....quieter road...but in amoungst people....quiet road so..torch swop just by him..they took photos mates holding.other torch at pavement.32 degrees..colourful..tshirts shorts carnival most places..tonight haringay..they did wembley and stadium............1948.relay.dover arrived canterbury.maidstone reigate guildford windsor presume see king..slough uxbridge then must be uxb... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2012
    excellent photos..flame flickers as by your old flat west side......coca cola photo good..they went in coca office at uxbridge for refreshment break,,sponsor......by ascot gdns........if around60yrs ago..we could have all walked out west ave northcote ave north rd to see parade..you were clever to park...yellow lines permits..everywhere now......2 coaches yellow says..moment to shine...and relay 2... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jul-2012
    No parking restrictions in Ascot Grdns.

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2012
    GREAT THINK SOUTHALL GETS AWAY WITH IT ABIT......EVERYWHERE ELSE IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE........GO BUS EASIER DONT HAVE TO PARK....YELLOW LINES...PERMITS ETC..SO BAD EVERYWHERE LAST 10YRS //20YRS...SAW 3 CARS BEING TOWED AWAY LOCAL.LAST WEEK.......OFTEN SAY OH CANT GO THERE CANT GO ANYWHERE MUCH..CANT PARK...IF CAN DO BUS....LONG WINDED BUT EASIER...........WALPOLE PK CAULDRON.SPEECHES PHOTOS ON B... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jul-2012
    More pics up

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2012
    marvellous denis...flats at where old sawmill dormers...just to left of them think..our photo boards..has..little very old detached cottage.quaint loooking.number 3....opposite beehive pub..by ..little shop sweets post office...great to see build of dormers..on our dinner hut..we girls..morris headmistress.had to say for what about receive prayer at table of 8 of us daily.....wonder which month th... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jul-2012
    That right looking at thatched house on Tuesday, only 1 crane at Dormers now its moved on a lot since we were there have some pics of L.M Road & Dormers before it goes

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2012
    photo number3 cottage allenby on our boards..yours trumpers way hanwell..good.........tues the torch went uxbridge trumpers ..cross street.. high st....then lido uxbridge sports ground....good swc photo..southall water company..google has photos ealing and hanwell of ..old original..road bits..like that.....6pm buck palace kate wills today torch..30 mls central london flame..wembley stadium .in 68... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jul-2012
    That should be detached not thached

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jul-2012
    fancy Res Lion closing times i have past it on the 105 going to Shepherds Bush with mum shopping all thoes year ago

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2012
    very old pub...maps 1700s show inn on that corner...had football screen etc..last yrs...been struggling....right on the shops..small car park...greenford locals site says closes for last time 11 aug..white hart down by was prefabs...bare ground long time now.....good photos prefabs and plots map plan also 1947 to 70...on boards..old ancient hare hounds..labourers pub 1800..still open ..up by was g... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2012
    opposite red lion..huge catholic wiseman comprehensive and huge 6th form college,,,double size now..all along pavement.....littern closed many yrs ago..had bad fire..now old peoples home....railway pub and brit legion.still there up oldfield lane.....macdonalds burgers at iron bridge//big pub..torch went good under there of old hansons.builders......new housing estate huge corner there instead of old st bernards...

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jul-2012
    Dad worked at Iron Bridge when it was a garage after the war and was a garage i think up to the 70s

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2012
    we bought our wood ladder from hanson..next along there,1974.......keith martinware on antique roadshow.greenwich.her dad went to the factory.southall canal.base says december 1895..aspedestra..giardinare...she uses for xmas tree and will conitinue to...£8000..but had to say £3000 because fault in kiln fire..mark.......unique all were sculpured one off...huge with 2 grotesque fantasy wally birds... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Jul-2012
    The mention of Ascot Gardens sent my mind racing back to 1940-a land mine fell close to Ascot Gardens!

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2012
    no name but in google.....his house flattened by landmine ascot gdns..with houses in the road..people killed.....so.1944 he 2 bros sister evacuated to burton trent..found photo getting of train at station in their library.dad worked hoover perivale toolmaker..mum worked munitions southall.6mths she got fed up..went got kids back...end war street party had their piano out in street sing song..he sa... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jul-2012
    Yvonne do you know who the torch bearer was in Lady Marg. Rd

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jul-2012
    Funny you mention the land mine i was looking at the houses that replaced the ones that got hit Micheal

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2012
    no...there were whole length about 6..mainly ladies....google might say...gazette...local library might know,,ealing civic centre council would know....,,,all special people chosen..deserve....saw whole thing live online .....33 mls today london...8000bearers 8000mls uk.....gt success achieve splendid...tony got his photo taken..by him..harrow torch........................

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2012
    our mr maynard on site wrote 2003 here site,,and also google bbc site..he said end road got flattened...lots long list bomb memories 2003...pages back here....google may say...4 different ladies relay down lady marg rd...passed at carlisle rd long delay ..think clear traffic ahead at lights..then couple changes..up to southall pk...then couple to iron bridge..wheelchair one......carol margetts sta... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2012
    our mr maynard on site wrote 2003 here site,,and also google bbc site..he said end road got flattened...lots long list bomb memories 2003...pages back here....google may say...4 different ladies relay down lady marg rd...passed at carlisle rd long delay ..think clear traffic ahead at lights..then couple changes..up to southall pk...then couple to iron bridge..wheelchair one......carol margetts sta... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2012
    says carol voted to torch by her students..head pe teacher.cancer had chemo went back chatted all to students.age 43 twyford cof e school acton.tom..helps community and disabled etc.long plated drawn back.plated brades black hair gold stud earrings..on our board...says queen mum 1948 decided route..it was..dover across up to windsor castle under her bedroom window slough uxbridge to wembley stadiu... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2012
    list 28 names..borough ealing torch runners..carrie mok ange moris..might be lady marg......1 celeb for each..we had boris becker.start northala..........kingston...etc..had other...in google...celeb sport etc people...etc..

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jul-2012
    Ok thanks

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2012
    gt last day.our.maze hampton ct..flame cauldron on royal barge gloriana..thames.big ben 8.12 am..40 rings and churches..3 mins...tower bridge huge rings..to stadium..greatest show on earth.tonight.queen opens.secret.flame.torch bearer.surprises..rehearsals done..

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Jul-2012
    Denis-what an interesting coincidennce you looking recently at those houses which replaced those destroyed by the land mine in 1940

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Jul-2012
    Yes Micheal it was only on Tuesday i whent to L.M. Rd to take a pic of torch, i remember playing in them as they were built must 1949/9

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Jul-2012
    That should be 1948/9 having a bad brain day

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Jul-2012
    Micheal if you would care to go on my Flickr photostream d.sexton428 i have just posted a pic of a section of silk cord from the mines parachute

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Jul-2012
    Denis - When I was young, I remember hearing that a mother had got her children ready for school, and had just left them to go to work when a land mine had landed in Lady Margaret road and killed them. I know you lived in Lady Margaret road. Did you ever hear about that sad story?

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2012
    amazing photo..denis 1940...mr maynard our site 2003 said mum evacuated him...after his ascot rd bad bombing..and on bbc site google 2003 he did.......midday torch city hall.now.pontoon huge rings..then later secret event at tower bridge...before torch will arrive 9pm..stadium...freeview tv...80 or 82..live..tower bridge

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2012
    in google..type.....june richards lived ascot gardens war,.,landmine.southall..her bbc account......

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 27-Jul-2012
    Yvonne. Please look further down on the GWR thread I have left u a message

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Jul-2012
    When I was at Southall Tech(1942-1945) there was a boy in my class who lived in Ascot Gardens-surname Milward.

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Jul-2012
    Pauline and everyone i dont know about deaths and injures but Dad wes in the Home Guard i suspect he was orderd to guard the scene being the nearest to it hence the cord he told me that chickens were running every where. the curtains in our flat where sucked thought the gaps in the closed windows in the vacuum wave after the blast

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2012
    back...2002 page...title war........mr maynard ascot gdns...his dad slept in house blast bay window in..but alive.......in google.bbc war memories it comes up easy......could be his sister....june richards....ascot gdns southall landmine..towards end rd houses flattened...she speaks of casualties..police on bike blew whistle them to take cover....

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Jul-2012
    That silk cord is certainly a wartime souvenir Dennis. Thanks for the information. Good photos on your Flickr photostream.

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2012
    june says it was july 1944...mum evacuated her 2 bros sister after it but got them back 6mths later..dad worked for hoover toolmaker.....load hay pub greenford was 1944 landmine..sanders big store ealing broadway was too.......northolt airport.and western ave war factories.........near etc......plane would see that straight clear line of canal..parallel with lady marg rd.......my gt aunt hubby dir... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Jul-2012
    Thank you Pauline glad you enjoyed them

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by thompson (Member 10241148) on 28-Jul-2012
    Well last night we British showed the world how to put on a show.

    The Queen's sense of humour was expressed by the James Bond clip; good on you Liz. Princess Anne and her husband Tim were holding up the Union Flag when Team GB entered the arena.

    This games has jelled the Nation with a feel good effect, just what we need with so much doom and gloom in the ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jul-2012
    YES MR THOMPSON...it was all wonderful good use of thames too...redarrows..beckham speedboat..amaze new idea for all copper kettles union one huge caudron flame..social history..rural..to industrial revolution iron steel...hot liquid made the rings..factories..mills..child labour..war..suffragets.music..pearlies.nhs.swing 60s.mini car..maypole may day we had at new dormers primary fields 1954 to 1... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jul-2012
    64 years ago today we followed the other torch along the Western Ave.

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jul-2012
    great photo in gazette.old olympics..uxbridge coming through..long lane.hillingdon..cap brazes man .1940s dress lady 40s push chair bab..cheer..bikes..1908 photo uxbridge high st..flags..edwardian clothes....marathon coming through olympics from windsor...redgrave told 10 days before kept secret..prefilmed..runup steps.but he was thrilled to go through construct workers hard hats...kids who.were n... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Aug-2012
    GREAT YOU TUBE FILMS IN GOOGLE FLAME TORCH OLYMPICS RELAY SOUTHALL...LENGTH.LADY MARG RD.....AND NORTH TOP..AT RUISLIP RD.STILL PETROL GARAGE EAST CORNER SIDE....we bought car 1980s at car sales on west corner you spoke of denis..top grass roundabout trees...bus waiting..coaches torch going through...ALSO...film of uxbridge..torch......and other films uxbridge in google,,

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Aug-2012
    Dad got his petrol there in the 50s when it was Elbournes garage

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Aug-2012
    right hand east side...esso garage many yrs petrol 1970s etc....opposite car sales...west side...we bought 1980ish..think was mazda car......place gone now....all taylor woodrow gone..but sculpture..working team...still there in housing estate....by canal.......

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Aug-2012
    Who remembers the airaid shelters in the Grammer school grounds L.Marg, Rg. side always had shallow water in and full of Newts

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Aug-2012
    lots on new greenford grammar in google 1939 yrs ..kids..tipped incendury bombs off toilet roof etc..northolt airport over them was target...closure demolish.art deco tower.late 1980s..reunion..they went tea cakes photos on google...dormers girls shelter 60s full cobwebs..told in assembly not to go down deep dark...

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Aug-2012
    We were told not to go in Dormers shelters in the 50s

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Aug-2012
    ah girls assembly 1960s...miss morris tweedy age over 60...school marm...girls told not..go near shelters concrete..damp..dark inside deep...very wet smell dank...1970 still there...new build eventually gone.....by netball court in middle open square...chris josie remember.....by near outdoor loos cloakroom....all go 2013..1934 orginal.demolish..corridors..hall....2 floors classrooms 37 /40 kids..... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL OLYMPIC TORCH by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Aug-2012
    gazette.... harold whitlock mbe of .chinnor cres.hanwell..won olympic gold...race walk athletics 1936 berlin..1952 olympics.age 48 still holds oldest ever athlete...........motorbike.racing track brooklands...born greenford 1903............mr stanley born 1946 perivale maternity hosp.tells the story.as he was next door neighbour...whitlock worked sudbury .sixsmith garage.mechanic..26 yrs after dea... more >>

 
R.I.P Len by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 20-Jul-2012
Just read on Facebook that our dear friend Len Goddard died at home today.RIP Len. You will be missed by all of us.   
  • Re: R.I.P Len by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jul-2012
    OH I am so sorry..very best wishes to lens family from tony yvonne...saw on facebook that lady read he had ..a slight stroke little while ago..we will all miss him so much...how wonderful on our site..unique..he was...we have his wonderful memories..to read any time..thankyou..lots of love..always..so very sad indeed

  • Re: R.I.P Len by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Jul-2012
    I was greatly saddened to hear of Len passing away.We will miss him on this site.
    Our thoughts go out to Lens family

  • Re: R.I.P Len by Chris (Member 10220786) on 20-Jul-2012
    I never actually met Len but we struck up a 'friendship' and we kept in touch via emails and Christmas cards; all through this site. What a wonderful, knowledgeable man he was. A perfect gentleman. RIP LEN - we will never forget you! Chris xxx

  • Re: R.I.P Len by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 20-Jul-2012
    God Bless you, Len

  • Re: R.I.P Len by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Jul-2012
    So sorry len all that knowlage gone for ever god bless len hope you are now where you want to be

  • Re: R.I.P Len by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 20-Jul-2012
    So very very sad, Len told me so much about places and people in Southall, photos of people he knew their names, he answered so many of my queries of past times, my sincere condolences to all the family, he will sincerely missed. Rest in Peace Len xxx

  • Re: R.I.P Len by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Jul-2012
    I am so very sad to hear that our dear Len has died. He was one of those people who you thought would go on for ever. I will miss his endless funny e-mails and all the photos of places in Southall that he knew were special to me. God bless you Len for for all the names of all the shops in Southall. You were amazing, and I will never forget you. You were a wonderful person. My thoughts go out to yo... more >>

  • Re: R.I.P Len by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 21-Jul-2012
    Very sad to lose one of our group. Condolences to the family.

  • Re: R.I.P Len by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 21-Jul-2012
    Sincere condolences to Len's family and friends on their sad loss.

  • Re: R.I.P Len by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 22-Jul-2012
    So sorry to hear about Len's passing. He was the first person I ever spoke to on here and he always had a cheery word and so much knowledge of Southall, things I had long forgotton.
    My condolences to his family, I am sure such a lovely man will be sadly missed.

  • Re: R.I.P Len by barry raymond (Member 10239180) on 28-Jul-2012
    So sorry to hear of the passing of Len, contacted him many times both on and off this site. Anything you wanted to know about Southall you would ask Len.
    Condolences to his family.

 
GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 5-Jul-2012
This line has always intrigued me. During the war years, I used to see freight trains going into the AEC brounds-this was from the path that wemt under the main railway, past AEC, to the canal. Evidently passenger services stopped in 1942-rumour had it that the line had been badly affcted when trams/trolley buses started to go along Boston Manor Road.In1993, I went on a train along the Brentford l... more >>   
  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jul-2012
    Trumpers Crossing is on a very ancient trackway.
    Cannot answer in full tonight but I will soon. The "old road" went to the old site buried under Heathrow. Sharvil Lane is another old trackway that I wrote about more recently and see if these threads are retrievable via searching old threads

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jul-2012
    We are back or was it me.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2012
    yes all day off..through night may be trouble...sent 6 emails to them ..been back on..hour............all knowhere sites were off....happens couple times yr....board 52.....lots photos..trumpers..station...maps ..rail trumpers...etc.......loads on penny hospital southall..photos...etc.....in chesnuts old work mens club....1940s 50s charlie.hayes .president there......at 1935 opened at featherstone rd.....

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Jul-2012
    No, it wasn't you Denis. We've all been out.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jul-2012
    Ok thank you both.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Jul-2012
    Trumpers Lane in Hanwell was an "old road" and its use was curtailed by the building of the canal and the enclosing of Osterley Park. It is one of those ancient roads across open country and this one headed SW towards the old village of Heath Row and Bedfont etc. We all know how unbelievably rural this would have been only 150+ years ago. The GWR built the halt there for passengers to/from ... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-Jul-2012
    Keith-Thanks very much for that highly interesting information. I presume the line must have run along the back of StBernards Hospital

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Jul-2012
    Yes. Don't forget, the line opened in 1860, so way later than the canal. There is a fair bit on Wikipedia (southall Brentford GWR branch) and a photo of Brentford Town station too. >> > > I understand there is still a train on the line once a day just as far as the Waste Disposal place just north of the Great West Road. This takes west London's rubbish to a big incinerator at a place called C... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Jul-2012
    Also, don't forget, the GWR OWNED Brentford Docks. It enabled them access to the Port Of London on their OWN tracks rather than have to go through London and thus pay to use the other companies lines pre-nationalisation. Owning Brentford Docks meant that other railway companies could not hold them to ransom. Passenger traffic on this line was almost an inconvenience.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jul-2012
    THANKYOU both so interesting.....link of our photos etc trumpers..if it helps.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/81447106@N05/

    board 52..flickr......charvill.the hill empty spacious green belt.still green across shooting range area...some horses.. have been some cows other years.....olympic torch goes along there...from borough hillingdon to denham to borough ealing northolt park northala.then into... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jul-2012
    only found out last bit my family tree this year..labourers norwood green southall green 1803 ..1806....but biscoe school 1770 for poor kids........must helped..brother of my gt gt.gtgrandad.....born there 1841...1860s....the new canal he had along there to brentford docks...must have heard of cance better life ..money.........he went....by brentford chiswick...apprentice,to chiswick master....got... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Jul-2012
    Look at > Brentford Railway Station GWR < on wikipedia. Good 1961 photo. Look how things have changed even since then

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jul-2012
    photo trumpers our board etc...lots new things there

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-Jul-2012
    Often walking along the path, over the footbrige over the Brentford line connection to the AEC factory, I used to see one of the GWR's first diesel railcars,resplendant in brown and yellow colours.Elegant looking compared to the current DMU's. I belive they used to run occasionally on the West Drayton-Staines branch

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jul-2012
    Hi Michael > > You need to track down a copy of the Middleton Press book I referred to earlier > I am sure it was published about year 2000, so is bound to be found easily, and still might be available from publishers. I gave my copy away but wish I hadn't. I cannot remember those AEC railcars on the Staines branch, but certainly do on the Uxbridge one. . I think there is a photo in the book.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jul-2012
    Mitchell, Vic; Smith, Keith (August 2000). Branch Lines of West London. Midhurst: Middleton Press. ISBN 1-901706-50-8.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jul-2012
    ...............AND I have just found that this exhibition is on at the Southall Railway Centre for just another week > > > > see e~mail liknk at the end of this message for details

    GWR Brentford 150 Festival Exhibition

    Published by GWR Preservation Group at 5:07 pm under GW... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jul-2012
    For Michael in particular

    your original question was about Trumpers Crossing. The "Old Road", once very important can be traced. Mattock Lane Ealing, gradually "south of west" so diverging further from the Uxbridge Road, it becomes Oaklands Road in Hanwell and on crossing Boston Rd, it becomes Tumpers Way. By the time the canal was cut, it had become less important and although it did cro... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 9-Jul-2012
    Thanks very much indeed for all the info

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jul-2012
    Not at all Michael. . . It is more than just coincidence that the "ancient" road (Charville Lane/Sharvil Lane) and this old, but newer road, (Mattock Lane - Trumpers Way - Cranford - Heath Row), run almost parallel with each other in a vague WSW - NE direction, but the more ancient road ran along the higher ground.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Jul-2012
    I have now got the book recommended, and apert from Brentford,I was fascinated to see the West Drayton to Staines branch-used to use it lot when going fishing. Thanks for putting us on to that

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 11-Jul-2012
    Michael you mention "Often walking along the path, over the footbrige over the Brentford line connection to the AEC factory" I seem to remember in the early 60's walking along a raised path that ran beside the back of the AEC (where my Father used to work) but it is only a vague memory & I can't for the life of me remember where the path started. Do you have any further information?

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Jul-2012
    Fred: If you walked along the road that ran parallel to the railway,you would come to the start of the path going of to the right, through a gloomy tunnel under the railway, then alongside AEC.It crossed the Brentford branch, ending up at the canal

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Jul-2012
    Michael, The "official" GWR colours on those AEC railbuses were 'chocolate and cream'

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Jul-2012
    Thanks Keith.Never travelled in one.My memories on the Staines Branch was of the "Push and Pulls."

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Jul-2012
    Nor did I Michael. We only ever had push & pulls on the Greenford branch too until the diesels came in 1958. The GWR colours were always referred to as "chocolate and cream" until the early BR colours of the early/mid 50's which were known as "plum & custard". but I do remember an AEC railcar being used on the Uxbridge Vine St branch before closure.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 13-Jul-2012
    FRED, AS MICHAEL RELATED THAT THE START OF THE LANE IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF GREEN DRIVE AND PARK AVENUE. FROM MEMORY - AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL THERE WAS A TEA/COFFEE/SANDWICH KIOSK BUILT INTO THE END OF THE TUNNEL WHERE A.E.C. WORKERS SPENT LUNCHTIME, AS THERE WAS AN ENTRANCE TO A.E.C. OPPOSITE. THIS WAS THE WAY I WENT TO WORK AS AN A.E.C. APPRENTICE.

    WHEN STILL AT SCHOOL WE LADS WOULD WAL... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Jul-2012
    Rpn,I do not remember the kiosk. I would have trod that path before WW2 and just after

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jul-2012
    I'm afraid I don't remember it either Ron. Was this after the war? We were often going through that dark tunnel on the way to Top Locks and our 'scrumping grounds.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 13-Jul-2012
    I started at the AEC in 1947. I do not remember seeing the kiosk during our trips to the woods and scrumping ect during the war years.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Jul-2012
    Thank you Michael, Ron & Pauline for filling me in on the path. I'd say that I'd only trod the path a few times but when Pauline mentioned Top Locks the mist cleared a bit & I certainly remember starting the path from that end. I didn't do any scrumping there but like all of us, I'm sure, I did scrump when the opportunity presented itself.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Jul-2012
    You're not the only one to have a mist clearing Fred. Although I can remember going through that very dark tunnel with the AEC at the side when we emerged, and then climbing up all those very wide steps to go over the bridge,I just cannot visualize anything beyond that. I know we all ended up in a farmer's orchard after scaling a barbed wire fence, but that's it. It was as much the excitement of t... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Jul-2012
    I have just been reflecing on our collective memories of that same turf we trod, and here we are reviving old memories some 65+ years later.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Jul-2012
    For me it was only about 50 years ago as I'm only 62. I didn't think I'd ever be able to use the word "only" in conjunction with my age ever again, thank you Michael!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 15-Jul-2012
    Actually just having had a birthday 6 weeks ago I'm 63.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Jul-2012
    I am 83(84 in September)-a sobering thought!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Fred Micheal im 70 next time i to trod the same turf who remembers watching locos on the turntable & A.E.Cs own shunter nr. the footbridge anyone know what happend to it

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jul-2012
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY AS IT COMES TO YOU LADS.in google southall rail centre gwr preservation group..has loads..says they restored the unique aec deisal shunter of aec 1939 built..sheds.was southall rail museum..but google has their photos etc..annual meetings.displays..ealing library ..or office..opposite firestation ealing..or walthamstow meeting..2011 each year on google...did paris this week..first t... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Thanks Yvonne nice holiday good for you & Tony

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Jul-2012
    Was there a turntable INSIDE the AEC factory??
    Didn't know that. Did the GWR shed at Southall have a turntable as well? Apparantly it was the last BR steam shed in the London area

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jul-2012
    OK...150 TO 180 MPH SAYS TONY EURO STAR..GT ST PANCRAS NEW REFURBISH STATION....THEN CROOSRAIL WEST TO EAST..THROUGH SOUTHALL..TO BE...THEN...M40 ROUTE.UP TO BIRMINGHAM ETC HIGH SPEED BY2015 THEY WANT ..MIDDLESEX.CHILTERNS ETC..RAIL..THEN 2020 HIGH SPEED MANCHESTER ETC..LOADS MONEY THEY OPE FOR....DID HAYES END..MY FAMILY TREE 41 ANGEL LANE VICTORIAN TERRACE STILL THERE..ANGEL PUB ROCQUE MAP 1754.... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Yes Keith there was a turntable at the back of Southall engine shed on the A.E.C side

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Does anyone remember the code for Southall shed

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Jul-2012
    81C

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Jul-2012
    81A Old Oak Common
    81B Slough
    81C Southall
    I don't remember any more

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Thats it Old Oak Common being 81A

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Thats not bad Keith after all these years

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    If i remember right didnt the G.W.R run 2 gas turbine engines No 1000 & 1001 thro Southall in the mid 50s

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Jul-2012
    I think they were 18000 & 18100
    I used to train spot from Jacobs Ladder, which goes across the tracks on the Hanwell side of West Ealing station where the Greenford line splits off.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 15-Jul-2012
    As to the AEC turntable, each Christmas in the staff canteen the AEC would hold a party for the children of the workers & Santa would distribute presents & one year amongst all sorts of other stuff they gave us a jigsaw puzzle of the AEC turntable with a train on it, marvelous. I was very sorry when Dad went to work for the SEB they didn't have Christmas parties!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jul-2012
    NICE XMAS TREES AS WELL OUTSIDE...WINDMILL LANE AEC..several good aec sites google..society etc......old staff children of old staff..photos etc

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 16-Jul-2012
    Denis, I have found a list: The first 3 were right and here are the others in what they called "London Area"
    81D Reading (W)
    81E Didcot
    81F Oxford

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jul-2012
    Thank Keith takes me back to the mid 50s loco spotting trips to Paddington for 1/1d return from Southall happy days

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jul-2012
    We where pulled mostly by prairie tanks if i remember

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jul-2012
    Yes,of the61xx class. Which we knew colloquially as "tunner one'ers"

    Can you remember any numbers for the Greenford branch pannier tanks? Also am l right that the 2 x branches from WestDrayton, (Uxb & Staines)were worked from Slough shed and not from Southall??

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jul-2012
    Yes Keith Tunner one ers 61x, sorry not sure about branch lines only whent to Windsor odd times mostly Paddington

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 17-Jul-2012
    Dont you mean Tanner one-ers meaning starting with 61

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jul-2012
    Sorry apelling mistake Keith

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jul-2012
    Yes Bob. After nationalisation, the GWR kept their 4 digit numbers because they had brass numbers on the cab sides that would have been too expensive to alter, so they kept their "61" series numbers throughout their careers even after nationalisation. The other rail companies only ever had numbers that were painted on, so it was the other regions that were required to alter theirs after nationalisation in 1948.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jul-2012
    Denis, you are right. But although it derived from "Tanner" because their numbers started with a 6 as in 6d, I always remember it being pronounced as "tunner" to rhyme with "one'er"

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Jul-2012
    I'm really enjoying all this railway talk, very Roy Cropperish.

    Railway carriages & old Victorian waiting rooms with gas lamps (as Southall had) had a great romance about them.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jul-2012
    WHO is "Roy Cropper"????
    And its not 'railway talk', it's very serious stuff! As a spotter, I'd got ALL the 61xx class except ONE. And that one had been transferred from Southall shed to Kidderminster shed (85D). My parents refused to take me to Kidderminster so that I could 'cop' that one, and I've never forgotten it. . > > > I now live in a house numbered "10A". That was the shed code... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 18-Jul-2012
    Roy Cropper is a character in Corrie who is very much a train enthusiast. I thought calling it railway talk was ok.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jul-2012
    "Corrie"?? Is it a T V programme?
    There are railways and there was the GWR. The GWR was more than a railway. The GWR was the epitome of railways, and many people said that GWR stood for "God's Wonderful Railway". The GWR was superior to ordinary railways, the GWR was 'special' and not to be confused with "railways" per se. Now, Southall shed is no more and the whole GWR system has been... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jul-2012
    As we did Keith

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 18-Jul-2012
    The GWR introduced Automatic Train Control(ATC) in 1906, wherby a train was stopped if it passed a red light.If this or equivalent systems had been installed on other lines,the Harrow and Wealdstone(1952) could have been avoided.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jul-2012
    .........and am l correct in thinking that the Southall - Brentford branch was the line where this ATC was first tested and/or first used?? Did AEC have a part in the development of this??

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jul-2012
    I remember the 1952 smash at Weldstone i think its the bigest rail crash in the uk wasent it

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jul-2012
    No,I'm afraid Quintinshill 1915 was bigger

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jul-2012
    No,I'm afraid Quintinshill 1915 was bigger

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 18-Jul-2012
    A good account of railway accidents is in "Red for Danger" by LTC Rolt

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jul-2012
    @ Fred

    Sorry. I am probably the only person in Britain who never watches television, didn't know that Coronation Street was still running, or know who Roy Cropper is/was. I have now been 'enlightened'. Whereas most people say "You should get out more", perhaps to me they would say "you should stay in more" And I didn't know it was called "Corrie". Always learning new stuff!!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 19-Jul-2012
    Yes Keith that's the one, though your first guess 'Is it a TV programme?" was spot on.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 22-Jul-2012
    I remember there being a line to Brentford when I was a small child and my grandad worked for GWR.
    By the way Yvonne, you mention Charlie Hayes being president of the working man's club(in Featherstone Rd) I think that must have been my uncle charlie, my mums brother. His wife Betty vanished in the 1950's, do you know if she was ever found? Ive lost touch with that arm of my family.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jul-2012
    thats interesting JEAN...will look up my reading of charlie hayes......put it here..soon as can..thankyou......lovely here from you..we are just getting our lovely summer now..my australian.friend melbourne.has gone into autumn...her gdad went out 1830..early times..inhereted money and went for adventure.to sydney....your photo on 2 boards of photostream flickr.has done marvellous.north rd school.... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jul-2012
    JEAN...WHAT WAS GDAD NAME GWR,,IN GOOGLE TYPE FRANCIS FRITH PHOTOS MEMORIES...NICE LADY THERE MUST BE RELATED TO YOU......OUR PHOTOS WORKING MANS CLUB ON BOARDS 50/51/52..FLICKR.......ADDED INFO PRESIDENT FOR MANY YRS 40S 50S CHARLIE HAYES..DAUGHTER SHEIla HAYNES was maiden name hayes..ON FRITH.CHATS LOVELY OF SOUTHALL GREEN..DAD DIED 1980S..MUMS RAN OFF BOOKIE OR SERVICES MAN..SHEILA TRIED BIRKEN... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jul-2012
    Charlie Hayes must have known my G/dad George Wyatt who was the accountant at the working mans club in the 40/50s

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jul-2012
    yes...frith site....daughter ..says he was..president for many yrs...she lives jersey now......1912..google says work mans club started featherstone terrace.road...1900..postcard..has it ..corner chesnuts of southall hospital..1930s they gave the big house to the hospital..opened 1935 from..million.pennies collected..by southall folk..1900s work men club.1905ish opened..bought it from..a builder w... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jul-2012
    I think some of the orchards were still at Top locks in the 50s

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Jul-2012
    I think you are right about the orchards. The last ones around Hounslow/Hanworth/Hampton were grubbed out around 1960. Prime building land of course!!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jul-2012
    I remember one orchard in the Top locks Norwood green area whent in it about 1956

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Jul-2012
    I think Brentford market closed around the same time - there was no local agriculture left to supply it. There was an interesting history of this written somewhere . A tremendous amount of agricultural produce was handled at Brentford and it had its own railway sidings. But not from the GWR Southall line but from the Southern as the market was really much nearer to Kew than Brentford. But ... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 24-Jul-2012
    Further research indicates that much of the agricultural produce from Southall/Norwood/Heston area etc did indeed go to Brentford Market, even though the market was technically nearer to Kew.
    However, the GWR line was not used in this venture, only the Southern (LSWR) who provided rail access.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 27-Jul-2012
    Thank you much for mentioning Charlie Hayes Yvonne, I followed up the Frith Link and found my cousin Sheila Hayes, who I havn't been in touch with since early 50's and we have been emailing nearly every day since. We are both so excited to have found each other again and I have been able to fill her in about things in the family she had no idea about. Even sent her a photo of my sister(deceased)... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 27-Jul-2012
    Yvonne,
    My Grandad's name was James Hayes, called Jim. He was with the GWR since he left school.The names James is still going thru our family, there is a Jim here in Australia!!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2012
    HOW WONDERFUL ..BEST WISHES TO ALL OF YOU TELL...SHEILA..JEAN THIS IS THE BEST OF THESE SIGHTS...WHEN HUGE..ADVANCE LIKE THIS....THRILLED TO BITS FOR YOU....BROTHER STILL LIVES HAYES...JUST HAD HAYES CARNIVAL BIG ANNUAL EVENT.........MY INLAW TO FAMILY..HAD SOUTHALL STATION RAIL WORKER...CAME HOME FROM 2ND WAR 1944...BACK TO WORK...BUT KILLED BETWEEN BUFFERS RAIL SOUTHALL DAVID WILLANS..BURIED..HO... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2012
    my dad jim.all life never called james....all family and geneology branches named after family...dad james after his dads brother......nan named her son john..after her brother..he named after uncle john...back to grandad john..back to gt grandad john...born southall green 1806.......my crowd...southall northhyde..heston.norwood green.all through 1800s 1900s.....nan lost her dear son john.acres wi... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Jul-2012
    Yes, I still remember all the flags that were put out in Northcote Avenue when David Willans returned home from the war. Everyone was so upset when he died after being crushed by rail buffers. Life is very cruel sometimes.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2012
    thats nice flags on return...good road yours was.....emma his dad george would been thrilled...george died..by 1950s..emma was widow...for about15 yrs.....grandaughter who lived there still lives partner bankside southall......rail so dangerous...many accidents...but never know what frame mind he was in..dont know where what part war he was....have heard of some...deep inside cant cope for a while... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Jul-2012
    Noticed the old garage at the top Lady Marg. Rd (Elbornes in the 50s) now Tescos mini market, also talking of the A.E,C canteen we would go in and have a game of snooker and some times of an evening

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 30-Jul-2012
    Denis,
    Your mentions of AEC reminds me that one of our next dooe neighbours worked there-My Victor Pannell.They had a son Richard, who was two years younger than me.He went to the PNEU school near Holy Trinity Church.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 30-Jul-2012
    How old was your nans son when he died. from the fumes in the H G Sanders (The Tube)

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Aug-2012
    BOB.......my nans son..my dads dear near brother...was 19...so keen to be at work...to help his mum out..she had 7 babies brought up 3 sons 3 daughters...he would have gone tube from dormers school...bike over bridge......bet he did overtime.....1936 died age 19...hillingdon hospital drained.//many pints fluid off hime when family went down dark..royal lane from uxbridge rd bus after work evening.... more >>

 
PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Chris (Member 10220786) on 12-Jun-2012
Who remembers the playground area (near the ladies toilets) in Southall Park? the WITCHES HAT roundabout; the see-saw, the HORSE, slide and the swings. I spent hours there with my dear friend Joyce from Shrubbery Road. Just along from the playground area was the Victorian Water fountain. On occasions we also used to 'try' to play tennis on the courts at 3d a session! That was when we had enou... more >>   
  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Jun-2012
    Although my memories were a little earlier Chris, I do remember the playground. We were all over there one day with my parents at some large gathering or other, and my brother Bob was on the roundabout going very fast with some other boys. Unfortunately, he came off with a bang and hit his head on the concrete ground. My father picked him up and csrried him over to a St. John's Ambulance tent whic... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Chris (Member 10220786) on 12-Jun-2012
    Oh yes, I remember the wooden shelter now! You've brought back a picture of it in my minds eye. I think it was painted cream & green. Yes, you are right, the fountain did have a cup on a chain! The fountain was not far from the entrance to the Rose Garden. I seem to remember a stage structure in the Rose Garden too. Also remember the band-stand which was not far from the wooden shelter. Chris x

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Jun-2012
    Yes, I remember the bandstand, although I only saw the band playing about twice. I know they all wore a uniform with hats, and I think it was held on a Sunday. If I remember rightly, I think there used to be several rows of seats for the adults to sit on. It wasn't our usual park, as we were up the other end of the globe!

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Jun-2012
    Yes Chirs you are right there was a stage in the rose garden i think it was removed in the early 60s

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Jun-2012
    I believe it was somewhere in that area where a V1 bomb fell in 1944-I remember it because it brought the celing down in my bedroom in North Road. I was downstairs in the Morrison Shelter.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 13-Jun-2012
    We spent many happy hours in the playground and the rest of Southall Park. The Rose Garden was somewhere we peeked in, but never allowed to play there. The Witches Hat and all the other stuff that would be banned by 'elf and safety nowadays! I remember a lady coming to the playground one day (must have been after the war)asking us to taste various varieties of Mars Bars, all cut into tiny pieces, ... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jun-2012
    I well remember that night Phyl when the bomb dropped in Southall Park. It was 3rd July 1944 (just checked in "Ealing, Acton & Southall at War"). My dad was just getting ready to do his night shift at AEC when our child minder arrived and said she coudn't look after us that night for some reason or other. I was on my own with my younger brother in the shelter. My mum was convalescing and the other... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jun-2012
    THANKYOU SUCH GOOD DESCRIPTION AS ALWAYS..SCARY....PROBABLY THE BOMB WAS WANTING AEC..WAR WORK THERE...TODAY SUCH TECHNOLOGY PRECISION.BOMBING.......BUT EVEN WITH OUR PHOTOBOARD OF THE AEC IN GERMAN WRITING.german .MAP.aerial photos..OF WHERE aec WAS ....but BOMB BAY NAZI HAD TO JUST HOPE .couple bombs went on asylum...GREENFORD ALSO ETC...BOMBS FALLING..OFF THE MARK......factories..they tried for... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jun-2012
    Thinking about that night in 1944, we were already out of the shelter, as I remember we were watching a dogfight going on in the sky overhead, and that's how we saw all the earth flying up in next door's garden at the bottom of West Avenue when the bomb dropped.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Jun-2012
    Mum,Dad, and I were in the Morrison shelter when the V1 dropped. Mum rushed upstairs, came down again and woke my father and said "The celings down in Michael's bedromm." He said" can't do anything tonight", and promptly went to sleep again! Mum was not amused, and nagged him for days!

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jun-2012
    my cousin born 1936 march..so he was..8 at 1944 night in shelter garden...west ave..with all the adults..but gdad built shelter but never went down it refused .had his own bed but insisted they all went down to spiders etc..across the road..cousins 9 and 7 yrs old were down shelter.. their dad italy north africa army away at war..but due back 1944 wounded......women doing munitions piece work shif... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 13-Jun-2012
    Fancy you remembering about the Mars bars Phyllis. I got into trouble as well for accepting them. We must have been together .We did spend alot of time in the park.
    I also remember the night the bomb fell in the park ,My gran and I were in the middle room downstairs. we ended up cover in soot and as phyllis says all the front windows were blown out in Shrubbery road, there were bits of brick etc... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Chris (Member 10220786) on 13-Jun-2012
    It was me who mentioned my dear friend Joyce from Shrubbery Road; yes Joyce White. I am still in touch with Joyce. We were 'friends' before we were born! Our Mum's were pregnant at the same time. Joyce is just a few months older than me. We were in the same class throughout school - Infants, Juniors & Senior. Joyce even introduced me to my husband....we have been married 48 years! I used to... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jun-2012
    no cars west ave either 1950s etc....all bikes...they used to slog it over southall station bridge..rush hour...so many going to old southall green factories jobs...lots bikes....no cars so uxbridge road buses were..so well used by everybody to west ealing ealing broadway and shepherds bush....so we played hop scotch pavement......dash across road..down to spikes bridge park.to swings etc..never s... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 14-Jun-2012
    Chris, we must all have played together in Shrubbery Rd. Sheila and myself were "best friends". We remember the Shanksters, Perks family, and how about Audrey King, Alan Selvidge, Brian Jones, Michael Rose, all the Lorna Bonomy, O'Sullivans, and more.... We had happy days despite the war. After all, that was normal life to us, as most of us had never known anything different.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Jun-2012
    My piano teacher lived in Shrubbery Road(Miss Feys). Didn't Mavis Cripps live in Shrubbery Road?

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 14-Jun-2012
    Yes Mavis cripps lived in Shrubbery rd just along by phyllis, she was a little older that us.We also used to play with the children that lived in north road , sheila rose joyce kimmins and one or two boys one was freddie lovelock. it nice to hear that you are still in touch with Joyce,

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Jun-2012
    I wonder if the Mavis Cripps you talk about here is my Aunty Mavis (May) Cripps who married my Uncle Shamus Gough and they lived in Williams Rd off Regina Rd. She had brother Stan, if that's any help.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 15-Jun-2012
    Yes, Fred, that's the same lady. There was a brother called Stan, who I think married a German girl after the war, which caused a lot of "teeth sucking" at the time. I recall she was a very nice girl and I know my mother always got on well with her. The Cripps were a big family and the grandmother was Aggie.
    I don't remember Miss Fey the piano teacher, as that was before my time, but I often hear... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 15-Jun-2012
    Yes Aunty May died about 2 years ago I think. She was a very jolly person though I did not spend a lot of time with her but she certainly knew how to sort Uncle Shamus out & they were a very happy couple.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Jun-2012
    Fred-so sorry to hear of the passing of Mavis.I can still see her in my minds eye-we would have been~16.(I will be 84 in September)

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 15-Jun-2012
    Iwas sorry to hear that Mavis had passed away, but we tend to forget that we are all getting pass our sell by date,

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Jun-2012
    Oh, we don't Sheila, we just hope for the best and keep taking the tablets ho ho!!

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jun-2012
    NICE PHOTOS SOUTHALL GRAMMAR...IN.GOOGLE....THOUGHT OF THE 50TH BIRTHDAY ..ONE BELOW HERE......in google.........but.then will also be on friends reunited.....google type southall grammar school pics,,,,,...........1952 intake..harman....COULD BE RELATIVE OF MY VAL HARMAN BORN 1949 LIVED BY SOMERSET RD ..I THINK.......lots pupils there cakebread,,,,,not notice 1970s pupils...there..but contact the... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 22-Jun-2012
    Phyl Hutnell- what was your maiden name-hope you don't mind me asking.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jun-2012
    SHE MAY NOT NOTICE..WHEN CHATTED TO HER.LOTS HER JOB CHURCH.BUSY..SCARBROW..SHE HAS MENTIONED FEW TIMES HERE..HER GDAD MY GDAD NEIGHBOURS NORWOOD GREEN 1914 YEARS....TODAY TIMES..TORCH...HAYES,CRANE PUB NORTHHYDE RD.1.43 PM..UXBRIDGE HIGH ST.CARNIVAL FLOATS.......THEN TO UXBRIDGE LIDO.NEARBY...BE THERE 4PM.,,,..THEN NEXT. DENHAM..WESTERN AVE..NORTHOLA PK..LADY MARG..EVENING PARTY ARRIVES WALPOLE P... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jun-2012
    Thats good news be later, try to get pics between Ascot & Somerset.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Jun-2012
    My eye has just caught the name Scarbrow in Yvonne's entry. There was a Doris Scarbrow in my class at North Road. Some time back I did have some correspondence with some members of the family-can't remember who,but there was no news of Doris

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2012
    DENIS SAYS ..5 PM..NORTHALA PK.goes afterwards lady marg.bbc.london 2012..MIKE..SO PLEASED..THOUGHT YOU KNEW...YES WHEN PHYLIS GETS CHANCE SHE WILL SEE..NORTH AVE.SHRUBBERY ETC..COUSINS AND HER BROTHER..ETC......LOTS LUCKY PHOTOS FOUND SOUTHALLBOARD51@YAHOO.CO.UK..FASCINATING TO SEE..TOWN HALL HIGH ST BROADWAY..KING ST THROUGH DECADES.rare photos.......white swan.nice one for fred....child pool so... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Jun-2012
    I think Scarbow was a local name to west Middlesex. I've never heard of it anywhere else

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jun-2012
    Thanks Yvonne.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2012
    ok denis..such coincidence.lady marg again 1948 2012..wow..fireworks party ealing broadway pk...evening..keith..photo .1938 hanwell broadway..belisha beacon install..zebra crossing...sainsbury..corner.hanwell broadway..........on flickr..southallboard51@yahoo.co.uk..with also 4 engravings of 1845 viaduct and iron bridge..1845 people under bridge gwr,steam train,,waiting for oxford rd uxbridge rd.c... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2012
    bbc tv another series..living through time..house clothes etc..tuesdays..turn back time..grif rys jones..good series bbc tv..on computer also..lost routes..around the country...very good...24 june...vintage bus day greenline..owners..annual....uxb pinner..ruislip..harrow..yeadiing.....at ruislip lido..98 ..and 211..free rides.....because today it is H13 and e7.modern buses....other photos on displ... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2012
    keith..if of interest YOUR.hanwell..southall west ealing..post office directory free in google...type...historical directories.click.....arrow to middlesex..fact file..click......then click..private residents.....renting..places....alphabetical order surnames names...................also section streets in alphabetical order...............fred stephen scarbrow 8woodbine cottage.mine were 13...1914... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jun-2012
    Olympic torch Peterborough tomorow.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2012
    good they are gt items tall of flame.67 day relay...10 miles from everybody..........midday today....live tv..82 /80/channels...82 ooo poppies lancaster over green pk.piccadily....factory tucked under hill richomnd by bus stop from ealing 65.....top hill star garter closed special 4 smaller places now.....5 tornadoes fly past.....amaze well done..bronze huge statue..portland stone..canada sent ro... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jun-2012
    Sorry misread its next Tuesday in P/boro

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jun-2012
    Remember Star & garter across from ice rink

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2012
    huge up top of hill...by entrance richmond pk.1920 queen mary..done gt job all these yrs..went in there for couple yrs..staff gt..closed now 4 new places opened elsewhere...they hope to make it back to hotel, again...gt famous view bend thames painted by turner...poets...such beauty..

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jun-2012
    Wasnt it the poppy factory across the river from the ice rink also was it Turner who painted a Southall windmill.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 28-Jun-2012
    Yes, it was JMW Turner's painting of Southall Windmill.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2012
    YES SEVERAL OF IT ON GOOGLE...ON OUR PHOTOBOARD..HEARD FEW WEEKS AGO .on tv his style...HE LIVED ON HOUSEBOAT THAMES..he loved water and the sky..born covent garden..working class....lived houseboatBRENTFORD...SEVERAL PAINTINGs,,.....THEN UP WINDMILL LANE 1805 THEY ARE NOT SURE....1810 THEY SAY IT IS NO LONGER ON MAPS....BY 3 BRIDGES...google has....few yrs ago..was christie sale..bought by london... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2012
    dilys..denis..everybody you will be surprised how many photos.southall etc....in google...easy.....guildhall collage....images photos....enter southall....loads...then..ealing ..has more southall etc...hanwell..greenford....etc....before 1970 they must have come to capture..times gone by before changes too much...lma..archive london.....western rd king stregina rd..etc lady marg.dormers..high st..... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 29-Jun-2012
    Hi everyone. Sorry for the delay in replying to the question about my maiden name and the Scarbrow name. Yes, that was my name. My Dad was one of eight, and originally came from Norwood Green - Woodbine Cottages along N/G Road. Doris Scarbrow was my cousin, daughter of my Uncle Charles. They lived in North Avenue, and I knew Pat best, as she was about 18 months older than me, whereas Doris was qui... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jun-2012
    HAPPY birth day..to your brother.......nice photos board52..norwood green..king st..sweet shop by north rd school..the grange..pre 1970.....also easy in google.........guildhallcollage........southall...heston...etc..........st marys norwood green.old ones......vine cottage ..norwood rd..tentlow........bulls bridge rd.all cottages...

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Jun-2012
    Thanks for Southallboard52 Yvonne. The best photo for me was the one of the Midland Bank on the corner of Regina road and King Street Southall. It brought back all the times we walked down Regina road to get to North Hyde Lane when we lived there for a short time. It was quite a long walk to my mum's then when my daughter was in a big pram and we walked from Southall station. That was when we were... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jun-2012
    yes that is a long walk from bank..king st regina rd..and yes loads walking from the station....glad you liked photos...denis...several on aviary on there now......sultan brunei..place.................2 open front wet fish shops..the old holy trinity hall at top of lady marg...quite selection broadway high st through the decades...west ealing...prefabs..dormers rise..numbers of each and the parade... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 29-Jun-2012
    Phyl:Thanks for the interesting resume' of the Scarbrow family. I am 83(84 in September), so guess Doris is/was about my age

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Jun-2012
    Is the famous Turner windmill painting still in existence? If it is, does anyone know where it is kept? Was the windmill there after the 3 bridges came into being?

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jun-2012
    YEAR AGO READ LOTS IN GOOGLE.......1805 1807 PAINTING THEY ARE NOT SURE..OILS....1795 GRANDJUNCTION...CANAL..WINDMILL BRIDGE...1837/8 RAILWAY///THEN BRENTFORD LINE........GOOGLE SAYS....CHRISTIES LONDON SOLD IT FEW YRS AGO TO LONDON WEALTHY MAN..ROBBERY STOLEN FROM HIS PLACE...........ASKED NAT GALLERY ASKED CHRISTIE,,,,,THEY SAID SALE......BUT TO PRIVATE BUYER SECRET,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SHOULD BE EALIN... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Jun-2012
    Thanks Yvonne

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jun-2012
    wikipedia...has it 1810...seen all dates...wikipedia..says usa copyright at moment........so could be last bought by usa person.private ..if gallery they would say for visit and enjoy....historical import...ealing librarian of 30yrs there..local hist dept might know more..........artistic licence near of lock to bridge .mill nearby.east side..no asylum then.....3 gt pictures...windmill bridge winc... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jul-2012
    Just looked at Southallboard50 what a nice walk down memory lane. theres even a picture of the 50s bus conductors ticket rack i talked of on here sometime ago.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jul-2012
    glad you got it..yes couple of old bus ticket...conductors...and.board51 and 52...lots memory lane...half dozen of aviary etc..111 lady marg built 1929......so gradual.wait for longest road in southall....

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Jul-2012
    My dad was a bus conductor,retiring in 1954. For some years he was on the 120.Pre-war he was on the 17 which then went from Southall to(I think) London Bridge. In his last years he was on the single decker which went from Ealing Broadway to Greenford and Ruslip(Lido during summer months.)

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jul-2012
    thats nice the 120.....now northolt tube station...lady marg rd to heston hounslow..still small bus eal broad greenford to ruislip..sundays lido,,....not boating swim lido now..more bird sanctuary ,swans coots mallards egyptian geese ..gulls..swifts house martin..get soft soil swoop insects..wood lands train.hoots away...rare bread cattle.horns..in field......but cormorant heron at canal.fast flow... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Jul-2012
    Michael, it was the 17 that ran from Southall Garage to London Bridge in pre-war days. It was cut back to save petrol in the war as it duplicated the trolleybus route (6O7) as far as Shep Bush. Then the single deck route from Greenford to Ruislip was the 211 and stayed until 1968. It was called the "old man's route" because those conductors had an easier life not having to climb stairs all da... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Jul-2012
    My dad was on the 120's during the early years of WW2. He was on early turn the morning after the bomb fell on Barrat's shoe shop. Evidently there were shoes scattered all over South Road. It was only later that he learned of the tragic deaths of the Purcell sisters.
    Later in the war, he was on the 55's. One night the bus was coming through Acton late at night.They ... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Jul-2012
    Michael, Was your Dad one of those who retired in 1964 when the 211 went from single to double deck for 4 years, before becoming the E1?. . . . Going back to the 17, it started from Southall Garage, but in those days it was called Hanwell garage as the trolleybuses were kept at Hanwell "depot". The name was changed to "Southall Garage" in about 1951 as before the war as that part of the Uxbr Rd ... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Jul-2012
    Keith, dad retired in 1954. You are right, he was put on the 211 to finish his years without having to climb stairs.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jul-2012
    Michael. . . .The 211 was a sort of "reward". An easy route for drivers with light buses and easy schedules, and no stairs for conductors, but full pay nonetheless - the same pay as if they were driving heavy double deck buses through central London.

 
Evergreen magazine by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 6-Jun-2012
I have been looking through this little book and found some really funny little ditties. - "to write with a broken pencil is pointless" - "a will is a dead giveaway" - "a boiled egg is hard to beat" - "he had a photographic memory which was never developed". I thought these were well put.   
  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 6-Jun-2012
    I have just found another one, thought you might like it, "Talking to myself is not a source of aggravation, for it's the only time I get a decent conversation!!!"

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jun-2012
    you say eggs...reminds so many.......egg on face..which comes first chicken or egg..cant make omlette without breaking eggs...hes a good egg.........clever egghead.......walking on egg shells....brave little soldiers dunk bread fingers in boiled egg.......egg shell paint...........they open..left side buck palace..displays..like..royal family faberge eggs...is beautiful inside..displays.............. more >>

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Jun-2012
    Talking about eggs - I often wondered where the expression came from "She always tried to egg him on!"

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 7-Jun-2012
    I came across this Pauline,

    Meaning
    To egg someone on is to encourage them and urge them forward.... more >>

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Jun-2012
    Thanks for that Fred - very interesting, specially the translation of Horace. It's good to know where the word derived from all those years ago.

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 8-Jun-2012
    Yes wasn't Horace the bane of Billy Bunter's life? Him & Latin declensions.

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Jun-2012
    I knew bits about Billy Bunter, but didn't read the Magnet. Horace Hacker (referred to as "the Acid drop").

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 10-Jun-2012
    I don't think he liked The Acid Drop but he was also frigthened as they all were by the translation of Horace. I remember Dennis Norden recalling how one of the pupils, Hurree Ramjet Singh was always saying "Oh the awfulness is terrific.

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Jun-2012
    I don't know about any of that Fred, but when Dennis Norden was mentioned, who I really liked, I wondered if he is still alive. He would be 90 now, as he was born in 1922! He had such a dry sense of humour. I hope he is still with us.

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 10-Jun-2012
    From what I can gather Pauline, he's still alive at 90. Though I liked the work of Frank Muir on My Word the stories of Dennis were always the funniest.

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2012
    yes ok 1922 born..tv know them comedy..with frank muir..liked him call my bluff....they were take it from here....sad the tv awards and theatrical...tv shows when they show all those passed away.as tribute..so familiar to us..such gt entertainment...radio.4 extra is good..showing repeats of the best..digital radio or 708 freeview tv sound...