Ealing Swimming Baths
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 28-Nov-2011
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Does anyone know when the Ealing Baths closed. It was such a wonderful
building with so many options for swimming with a few different pools
& also Slipper Baths & Turkish Baths. We used to go there each
Wednesday via a coach from Grammar School. I tried to google it but
couldn't find it. I think Arthur Haynes used to live near it.
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 28-Nov-2011
I was at Southall Tech
1942-1945, and also went to Ealing Baths on Sports afternoons- I learnt
to swim there. Sometimes our acconpanying teacher was the headmsster Mr
EH Morgan-he used to see us in, then go for aftetnoon tea at the Forum
cafe.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Nov-2011
1981.closed....I lived ealing
broadway 70s...remember longfield ave...side of percival house old town
hall..old firestation...long time car park open area.....opposite built
new civic centre...dolphins.ealing swim club google has lots on pools
etc...they just replied 1981 but smooth change to new built gurnell
...olympic size 50m......husband myself went to when new,,,,ruislip rd
east opposite side from
cuckoo estate hanwell....brent fields .......acton swim pool closed for 3
yrs ,,new complex 2 pools gym etc library all leisure centre...old
gothic..victorian pools....charles jones 1900s architect......northolt
glass high huge pool.by tube station....ruislip lido 200yrs firewks
saturday...1811 reservoir for feeder to canal...by hayes bridge spikes
bridge...1930..lido...1945 miniature steam train..daily today..40mins
£2......uxbridge outdoor pool opened new 2010...dormers pool sports
leisure centre.......highgrove ruislip many yrs modern pool...ealing
civic society good photos heritage on google....and interiors 1930s
baths in google.......laurie dormer and son luke..did so much southall
ealing club swim..huge club etc bournemouth ringwood many yrs.now ... more >>
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 28-Nov-2011
Arthur Haynes lived in Gunnesbury Ave. Ealing there is a blue plaque on his house.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Nov-2011
if you put in dickens yard ealing
broadway,st george develop.....demolish photos there and,,,new pictures
of complex.in google...large area behind old town hall percival
hse..swim pool.longfield hall..gothic buildings...old
firestation........contructing now modern..225 apartments,spa...... 3
piazzas jazz ..st theatre..mkt...new supermkt car pk...new high speed
rail......forum cinema abc still getting nudged to complete new cinema.. ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 28-Nov-2011
I seem to remember that there
were also public baths in WEST Ealing too. I think they were somewhere
to the north of the Broadway between Singapore Road and Kirchen Road.
Can anyone confirm??
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Nov-2011
yes in google says williams rd
west ealing...just behind singapore north side.....google says several
of them about old..public baths... slipper baths etc.....says called
slipper because edwardians shy. towel over short bath..wrapped around
for modesty...looked like a slipper........photos board48
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2011
today..archive all regional local
papers on line from british library..gazette chronicle etc..australia
etc members may like...£6.95 for 2 days look....to pay the firm that did
it....or many yrs at archive search visit free..was colindale think
moved to boston spa to british library huge archive..items
microfilm...my family cousin would be in it...lived off cranford lane
1928.heston.old cottage over
3 generations huge families kids grew up...billy wallbanks..fell out of
tree ,back orchard..brothers saw ambulance arrive from west mid
hosp.but he died age 8.......life magazine thursday picture tells 1000
words...bbc4 digital 9pm..unique captured on film..so precious... ... more >>
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 29-Nov-2011
My memories of Ealing Swimming
pool were for a few years before transfering to Acton Baths, the
winternvenue fot Southall Swimming Club. Once again using Flexmans
Coaches.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2011
lots of articles photos in google
of laurie dormer southall pool .and his son luke still running swimclub
bournemouth ringwood..rotary club etc...echo local paper.....president
ealing swim club replied 1981 closed they were happy to transfer modern
olympic size 50m new gurnell opened...1880 ealing gothic opened 1910
expanded to turkish slipper.1981 closed..architecture would have delayed
it..acton closed now
3yrs opens new pools leisure centre.gym.library etc..photos acton pool
with town hall library architecture our boards...I worked thomas huxley
teacher training college along road closed now.......and had marriage
bands posted on wall inside registry office town hall there... ... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 30-Nov-2011
Thanks Yvonne, I had look at some pics of the baths on photoboard48, very good.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2011
thanks fred...amazes me that
captured photos pictures maps of so long ago...are around for us to
see.....pictures tell thousand words...capture memories
..fascinate....gothic design of great architects likes ealing broadway
charles jones...have been english heritage listed buildings many
yrs...newer lottery today with others helps to pay preserve
protect,,,,,southall manor house in middle of revamp...grounds done party was out there......look forward to your memories ..threads best wishes to you and yours ... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 1-Dec-2011
Thanks for your best wishes
Yvonne. That is exciting to think that the Manor House is getting a
revamp. I hope at some stage the public will get a chance to view it. I
have always been fascinated by the building, having gone to school next
door.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Dec-2011
in google........greenford
grammar kids viewed it before closed for conservation ...2009.george
twyman southall local history society took them round photos our board
and in google.....wood carve fireplace wall is oldest part
1570........photo thomas family last to live there in garden there .1911
census in google 3 kids servants there.......sold to council by
1920........Awsister..cheseman and all
the gentry who lived there through the hundreds yrs...henry 8th
mulberry tree in grounds keeper says they continue ...pond
conserved..they have asked public view...await decisions....money to get
back..other conserved manor hses surrey etc...they hold weddings there
and charge,,,,chamber commerce have always had office there...yes your
school great history and exactly there with church...wiseman catholic
secondary now....by redlion greenford huge crane there...with dormers
schoools got £30 million each revamp extensions now..1300 students
with6 th form ..... ... more >>
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 2-Dec-2011
Ealing swimming baths was where I
learned to swim too. We used to walk down in file from the girls'
grammar school once a week.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Dec-2011
dolphin president swim club
southall ealing said they were pleased go new gurnell glass 50 size
olympic 1981 when gothic ealing closed`1880 built1910 extend ..new
complex there now dickens yard glass buildings all along
back.huge...photos board48...
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by Alan Sabey (Member 10273716) on 12-May-2012
I worked at Ealing Town Hall from
1971 and several of us used to swim in the old baths at lunchtimes. It
was as old-fashioned as Hounslow Baths in Treaty Road used to be!
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yeading and general
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Nov-2011
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louise asks.......history any knowledge her mellor cottages yeading
lane....you do not say date family lived there.what number your family
found haunted.......1920 built..delay because off war they were white
cottages.slum.google says to replace..1800s long time
overcrowded.labourers farms brickies old dwellings...there ...industry
pub along...was old st edmund tin church..1960 new st edmunds buil t
opposite..by lothian rd.west side...2-4-6 mellor..now 137-139-141
yeading lane ..mellor plaque on wall.......2 deaths in france of
war...son of 19mellor 21 yrs old george langley of james ada.16 aug
1917 tyne cot cemetery..1/8 battalian middx reg.lance corporal...4
mellor.was pte george hammond son of george hammond 19.5.1917 arras..8th
batt middx reg22yrs old...keller and sherwood bks in google have
yeading lane..pte harry langley of 19 mellor died arras 28 .4 1917 17th
batt.middx reg..son of james ada...google does not say
haunted.....overcrowded 200yrs labourers.often babies kids died disease
etc.....accidents brickies...kiln there....1940 across rd..willowtree
brookside ici ammo factory munitions..photos on hayes site..of cottages
road etc.....1827 were called white cottages brickies....number 4 brian
of hayes site his gmum annie tom.lived......barry raymond family lived
at yeading fork as I did.... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Nov-2011
Does anyone remember
Chamberlains junk yard on Yeading Lane had a pole outside on
top where three large copper balls like pawn brokers
1940/50 poss 1960s
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Nov-2011
was that at the fork...we lived
there 1961 on.......was something like that.old scrap cars etc...nice
photo parade shops with the behind B/W on our board48.middle haf way
along yeading ane east side...west side industry pub library...barnhill
school huge now.......yeading at willowtree that went to walnut tree
willowtree pubs....2011 summer they have finally cut all the old tree
itself to just trunk
left...over 400yrs old jollys willowtree labourers pub gone
there......had lewis farm cows pigs etc..managers ran it to 1980ish.... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Nov-2011
I think it was on a bend, sold all sorts secondhand building materials mostly.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Nov-2011
yes that is the bend
there....half way down yeading lane...yeading fork area..were loads
green fields up to white hart and around now built on huge estates
flats.......large parade shops goes around..and off to east willowtree
lane down to the 2 pubs were horses down track path lane....now huge
parkway hayes by pass cuts through.....photos queen visit few yrs ago
hayes pedestrian precinct visit shops..canopy mayor.....wore deep red.. ... more >>
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by LOUISE (Member 10267633) on 5-Dec-2011
Hi Yvonne,
Thanks for the information. My family and I lived at number 157 Melior
Cottages during the mid 1980's to the mid 1990's. We often heard strange
noises upstairs, like walking around and my toys being played with etc.
One of the bedrooms was always extremely cold and eery.Was so glad to
move out of there!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Dec-2011
157 yeading lane.....nice long
lane...so your mellor would be one of the row of about 9ish....those 2
soldiers died from TWO of the numbers...plaque on wall saying
mellor...they were called white row cottages 1800s on all the
censuses....wanted to pull down 1912 slum old condition but war so
rebuilt 1920....I lived by the fork...industry pub of 1800...ancient
labourers brickies farms...ancient white
hart pub was westend farm several generations 1900.....toys move and
cold...eerie.....they are still there sunny photos on our flickr
southallboard 48 photostream.......happy xmas you yours from yvonne
tony.......yeading lane people on hayes hillingdon .com in
google.....remember all .....and ammo factory munitions
..gpo..cows..across field brookside past the kids playground and 1960
new church st edmunds 1950 new barnhill school....cinema top road grapes
pub....borstal now macdonalds and supermarket...uxbridge rd with new
hayes bypass......yeading 1960 all fields but changed to huge estates
flats....140 bus to northolt central line....1911 census says who lived
your mellor ..........1913were rented 2/6 week by only shillings payed
labourers overcrowded kids often with lodger labourer to help pay
rent..penny pint beer,,,, ... more >>
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by LOUISE (Member 10267633) on 6-Dec-2011
Thanks Yvonne, you have provided
some very interesting information with regards to the cottages and
surrounding areas.I'm pretty sure those cottages are haunted. Would love
to find someone who also lived at 157 Yeading Lane and ask them if they
experienced any strange happens.I can totally see those homes once
being overcrowded, as very small inside. Only two bedroom...each house
still has an outdoor
toilet round the back with high cistern and old pull chain which must
have been installed after the war.I was told by an elderly neighbour
that after the war each cottage had a small channel out the front and
they had to cross it over railway sleepers. Have no idea if this was
part of Yeading Brook or some sort of drainage. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Dec-2011
thats interesting....yes yeading
brook came across yeading lane just there....to brookside..fields and
over towards spikes bridge canal berwick road.brookside rd the little
step stones bridge there.........your channel and rail...huge
brickfickfields were there ..old mellor cottages were called white row
cottages then...rail to help haul the wagons bricks to road and
transport off.......friends reunited
free google........put yeading lane mellor...in places
streets........members put house number they lived at......might be
lucky get those 8 people living in your terraced row......browse members
click...........google has house sellers ...mellor yeading lane has
couple photos mellor cottages tiny front door stairs straight up ,living
rm..........yes many of our families just like your outside
toilet...tiny inside...kids every 2 yrs from age 20 labourers they had
about 8 kids..and lodger helped pay rent....industry pub busy
brickfields farms there labourers tried to lodge.....plaque on google
photos outside mellor says mellor cottages.....lansbury drive round the
back....what yrs were your family there//////shakespeare warley where my
husband was born from....out to uxbridge rd cinema...grapes pub borstal
coldharbour...happy xmas to you yours from yvonne tony ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Dec-2011
good see you are at 157
already..hope you get reponse....mention the haunting and you might get
reply....1950 seems the oldest person there.........put your request on
the large popular site......hillingdon hayes . com........people there
talk of yeading lane they might know of it......yes my husband had chain
high cistern outside 1950........rail sleepers yes strong wood to make
little step bridge over
brook.......it meandered flooded all over..boggy..out to spikes
bridge...that with reservoir water from ruislip lido 1800s was feeder to
canal,,,from gunshoot area charvill area ickenham.ruislip..golden
bridge by barnhill school.....across yeading lane...water top up feeder
channel to canal ..spikes bridge to hayes bridge area.......they sell
those little terrace cottages high like everywhere today....prices on
google.....1920 built from old demolished there.............deaths would
have been old cottages...like everywhere 1920 and before....so burials
be hayes church .burial books..plots.records....to know those from
mellor cottages....babies 1920s when cottages built..disease etc
died...old cottage on site before to 1800s had poor families..deaths in
cottages.......the small pox hospital 191s 1920s .was opposite over
brookside near gpo...north of willowtree lane.....accidents by your
workers cottages the busy northolt hayes brickfields.people died....war
ammo opposite gunpowder munitions factory people died pill boxes over
brookside opposite you.....we had hung in one our old cottages 1908
poverty 4 kids he seasonal work...age 26 he hung in outside toilet
poverty..was hard times ...all decades.. ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Dec-2011
Yeading is an interesting place.
It seems that ley lines avoid it. Yet one of the world's oldest
trackways runs just a mile to the north/west. The tackway that runs
atop the hill Down Barns Charville Lane - Sharvil Lane was a prehistoric
road from somewhere near the New Forest/Salisbury Plain to East Anglia.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Dec-2011
have been collecting info downs
barns..west end...farm ......white hart pub..charville....nice photos
maps etc.our flickr photostream boards.....happy xmas you your keith
from yvonne tony,,good pages in google history northolt has all areas
info,,,,,,,people..social history and work and village....all yrs
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Dec-2011
Brilliant . . . . Yvonne this
will repay a lot of research. That is a prehistoric trackway, the ends
of which have been lost in time. . .That is one of the oldest roads in
England. The is so much history attached to it that needs to be
discovered
Keith
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Dec-2011
yes famous golden bridge
charvill....bernard miles famous british actor fought to have it
preserved...he lived there......bad area now behind barnhill huge
secondary school.....but they try have it for ramblers....hillingdon way
footpaths..historic.....in google.....
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by LOUISE (Member 10267633) on 7-Dec-2011
Yvonne, the information you have
provided is extremely interesting.Many deaths in cottages. Sounds like
very hard times back then.I will definately check out the Hillingdon
Hayes website to try and track down previous owners / tenants of 157.
Interesting also about brook.I was a child in mid 80's to mid 90's and
remember Yeading Brook bursting it's bank one year and severe flooding
in surrounding fields. Water was quite high in the park/playground...could only see half of the slide.
With regards to Sharvil Lane, I used to keep a horse at Down Barns up
until 2 years ago..sadly he died..very old farm..have family and friends
that rent stables there now. End of Sharvil Lane goes into a public
byway/ bridleway. Ridden down there many times and over Golden Gate
Bridge. Did not even realise that it is a very ancient road. That's
incredible. I just thought it was an old bridleway. It is used almost
everyday by horse riders from Down Barns and nearby stables such as
Abbeyfields on Charville Lane and Home Farm in Hayes end. Seems to be
lots of Muntjack and various deer in the woodland and rabbits too. I
heard that years ago there was also wild boar in those woods. Moated
Site (site of old manor house and moat) next to Down Barns very
interesting. Think Reading University own it or look after it or
something like that anyway. There are bee hives in there. Uni must be
the bee keepers? ... more >>
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by LOUISE (Member 10267633) on 7-Dec-2011
Apologies...I meant Golden Bridge..not Golden Gate Bridge! Completely wrong country!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2011
well done louise happy xmas you
and yours keith has studied charvill etc some time now he knows gt
deal........yes that yeading brook like brent river deadly
flooding,,,,members zeta ron.pauline.spoke of boggy brookside near
spikes bridge..flood back gardens new berwick rd built houses over brook
running up to hayes bridge was old bridge at uxbridge rd at ancient
toll turnpike bridge uxbridge oxford
rd at toll house pub waggon horses..before canal hayes bridge built
18000......photos our photostream flickr........those labourers in old
cottages like my nan gdad families all lost baby 1900s.in cottages.no
penicillin innoculations etc..no health safety accidents manual work
deaths..there was also suicide young out of work poor .lots kids men
known to hang self....1908.3 soldiers died from number 4 number
19,..,137 147 to your 157 row cottages then..on hayes people in
google.terraced and end terrace £200000 now old cottages 2/6 .5/6 to
rent before1920...at 150 opposite you 1950woman may know something..put
item in st edmunds church newsletter .opposite. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2011
reading uni has last 50yrs good
museum local social history...northolt hayes heston etc....rural
life......open to public..husband I were that way yr ago .but not time
find it and park...will try again.......on google......photo west end
farm white hart pub our photostream...farmer daughter there
1900,,,,,,,now council estate limes....barnhil school library may have
info ancient area it sits on,,,deer
rabbits sounds gt your horse...gdad and member our site here..used to
catch rabbit local help stew pot with garden veg 1920s.....uxbridge and
ealing local history libraries would have stuff.........ealing broadway
librarian 30 yrs jonathan oates writes books for 15 yrs now....loves
haunting,,,,,,,titles in google...murder mystery hauntings strange tales
local...some fiction some true stories.....highwayman dick turpin
gibbert trees local..old mud tracks of yeading lane gedding...bath
rd.hounslow heath bell pub...uxbridge rd up by hanwell heath..murders
pistols masked robbery....ha.... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Dec-2011
This has prompted a lot of
interest > I will do my best to write more later in the month.
Certainly I will have more time in January.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2011
look forward to it...louise has
lot local info...yeading library is in yeading lane they would collect
info...primary schools get local info packs from their
libraries.northolt library......lord hillingdon coat arms still on his
farm house barns behind polish war memorial,,he owned all up to
hillingdon mansion hse..along northolt raf airport lands..horses all
about..cows fields charvill sharvil.shooting
range,,cycle track and horses.along ruislip rd west end
rd......harefield huge fields of lots horses.....british history on line
in google has all areas....and wikipedia...happy new yr .time later
..keith and yours from yvonne tony... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Dec-2011
Yvonne, yes I will do, but first
let me ask, does ANYONE have a sort of intuition, a "sixth sense" that
Yeading, especially the area between the Willow Tree and the White
Hart/Ruislip Road East, once had a very dark past?? Does anyone get
this. Why was it avoided for centuries and not built on?
Might be an idea for you to start a new thread with this?
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2011
so true it was never built on..we
moved there 1961...lovely.....lots green grass.....140 bus went along
to northolt tube central line great for me to work white city bbc
tv.....grass spaces all up to northolt village....1965 big change ..went
from southall council to borough hillingdon......hayes to uxbridge
hillingdon council....then top part northolt under 80s borough
ealing,,,,,google said ealing
allowed out to spaces all their extra numbers...huge crowds..they
wanted to house...many babies being born and more flooding in from
everywhere ,,, green grass goes......huge flats council estates built on
every blade grass..school has grown massive.......charvill edged onto
green belt ..western ave still some long spread of green belt...but some
more and more housing...northolt airport was benefit from empty space
green belt,,around.......huge decision of ealing council to gobble up
greenery empty spaces of yeading lane....they cant build on flood
plains yeading brook brent river so some park ramblers walk trails
survive.......town life many benefits and central london tube good,,and
west london onto chilterns with car now...have enough countryside
village life...if live far enough out.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2011
could not build on willowtree
lane area many decades,,,just off ruislip rd white hart yeading lane
because soil toxic was toxic dump...see google....and huge war munitions
factory...kids found ammo in fields play..pill boxes...kynack
ammo...canal used transport......in google...articles....in more recent
yrs tests done...byron burnt down and up spring more and more
houses.spread over every inch....all
the cows fields built on...only bit brookside sport field left.flood
plain of yeading brook......were not the shops high streets out your
greenery keith so rows houses did not spring up like southall hayes
factory towns.uxbridge rd buses rail urban. .....but with everybody car
now it does not matter.... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Dec-2011
You see Yvonne, a place which
already had bad karma, such as one where there had been a big slaughter
in prehistory would be a prime candidate for a spot for a munitions
factory many, many generations later. See what I mean. Some people
can "feel" this. Some people definitely 'feel' these things via
intuition such as also Culloden in Scotland. This is why the land was
"chosen" - it was already "bad". Can anybody local get someone to check the let lines? - there aren't any! ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Dec-2011
I meant "ley lines"
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2011
yes see what you mean..it had
huge brickfields of 1800s 1900s at canal docks wharfs inlets of
water...were there... rail tracks cranes.......so useful area to ici
factory ammo war..transport......and huge area of non farm non arable
fields...so circle pill boxes concrete erected for shells safety.one
pillbox conserved.....open space empty fields holes of ponds rain water
where brick earth gravel been
dug out for decades....so scrap land ok for factory war ammo...my aunts
worked munitions........1980s eventually population explosion moving
in...they spent long time there seeing to the old soil testing levelling
so massive number houses there now.....spread over huge area.into
yeading lane also.... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Dec-2011
Yes, non arable (why??) land.
As you said "scrap land". Bad karma there. Why? Perivale grew
best wheat in Britain - Q Victoria insisted on bread from there. Yet
Yeading "scrap" land, nothing but good weeds/scrubland.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Dec-2011
......especially the nearer you got to the Willow Tree.
Dark place. Bad feelings.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2011
yes had good read in google ley
lines..good.....eliz 1st had bread from heston good soil wheat...but
clay soil places west middx.southall hayes botwell yeading
northolt.....they dug out clay gravel kilns coal from canal baked
bricks......so farm good soil land was west end by white hart
pub.....but london areas famous clay bed...good for all the
houses..gravel dug out for runways heathrow....meadow
land heathlands areas around..so not arable..........we loved the
stonehenge tv and our visits ...avon river...spiritual water lay
line...goes back to ancient see face reflection and oh its magic
imagination no science knowledge
logic.understanding...then...LOUISE..her cottage over ancient yeading
brook wood railway sleeper out front door using to step over,,,,so ley
line...water there spiritual.....seems.......wonder if people there
still suffer.C of E huge church bell tower opposite the
cottage.......berwick rd zeta said was built over yeading brook by
spikes bridge flooded gardens....ley line....water dowsing all part of
it...thanks keith ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Dec-2011
Good to read "ley lines" on
wikipidia. Good stuff there. That part of Yeading is spiritually
inert. I felt it 55 years ago as a kid. Down Barns
Charville/Sharvil VERY spiritual ancient prehistoric tackway. Iron
Age. Loads of "feelings", probably became ancient tribal or kingdom
boundary (Hanwell Stone famous marker)
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by LOUISE (Member 10267633) on 8-Dec-2011
I am so glad that I found this
website. Yvonne and Keith...you have so much local history knowledge and
it is fascinating. I am currently in Australia, but I will be returning
home to Yeading (Barnhill area) when I return for good in March 2012. I
am definately going to Yeading library etc to do some research on local
history. Thank you both for inspiring me to learn more about our
ancient past. I never really thought about it much before,but now I am eager to learn more.
I too get the feeling that Yeading has some kind of weird feeling to it.
From my experience and my parents experience of hearing strange noises
and seeing things in that old cottage, I always get a bad feeling when I
am near that part of Yeading Lane.It really feels dark and eery. Also
get that feeling when walking dogs over Greenway and being around Down
Barns or riding along track to Golden Bridge/ surrounding Hillingdon
trail. I know a few other horse riders who have ridden their horses in
the field at the back of the shooting range...the one that backs onto
houses on Kingshill and horses have freaked out and misbehaved, even
though usually quiet.Maybe they sense something sinister perhaps? ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2011
yes often heard that horses have
the most sensative feelings...ley lines on google interesting magnetic
energy out of earth and water streams etc...dowsing.....your neighbour
said wood heavy sleeper across brook by your door....some people are a
meadium to it sense see it ..others do not.....your family may have been
been sensative to it.....water streams etc they have always said
people around the world
spiritual about...yeading brook goes from your cottage west.. north
...along the back to your areas with the horse golden bridge downs barn
farm 1830 map on our flickr board ...shows it charvill track prehistory
saxons druids........beck family long time owned downs farm 1800s1900s
the local theatre named after them beck theatre pantos etc,,uxbridge
rd.,,...ruislip bury st and uxbridge libary has always had local
history society papers and books on it all......as keith says one of the
oldest tracks.middlesex.......council does preserve it ramblers and
hillingdon footpath trail walks footpaths,,,...master brewer pub up by
ickenham was the walkers watering hole beer..now being a
supermkt..........happy 2012..I was sydney canberra melbourne darwin jan
1970....1986 sir bernard miles lived yeading there 1929...he fought to
have new bridge there at ancient golden bridge lane..photo of it 1986 on
our board flickr......bits of ancient crossing bits there
before........northolt has the new library now....uxbridge and ealing
main local hist libraries...maps books papers societies study groups
there....ruislip bury st also,,,,,,our member new zealand zeta suffered
yeading brook across brookside berwick houses built over brook floods
back garden,,,many times I jumped over yeading brook or stepping
stones....short cuts across fields rather than buses all the way
around..happy new yr louise keith from yvonne tonyxx ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Dec-2011
Louise, I think "you've got it".
Whilst in Oz, if you speak to one of the indiginous Aboriginal people,
they would know what I mean and understand exactly. Not all people
can "feel" these things, but Yeading always did it to me especially near
Willow Tree area. Also VERY LITTLE is known about the Down Barns
pre-historic trackway - I am sure it is the oldest road in the London
area although others,
without 'intuition' might disagree, I think it might pre-date
Stonehenge. Most of yeading's history is too ancient to be revealed,
but its ghosts remain. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2011
lovely ramblers association
extremely good leaflet map nature trail there on our flickr of louise
paths.....local history society ruislip hillingdon uxbridge have
50/70yrs collection...downs barn farm and charvill golden bridge yeading
brook..and ancient track.they really do have loads...ruislip and
uxbridge libraries..they probably covered the sensitivity medium karma
as well,,,feel sure they would
have done...email write to the local history society...council and
libraries...........many yrs people walk the ancient track there
charvill yeading brook...pub at each end .....refreshments.....famous
known by many ..many yrs nature conserved area...hillingdon council have
lots free leaflets they post out to you and they are in google........ ... more >>
- Re: yeading and general
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Dec-2011
Yes Yvonne, Down Barns trackway
pre-history druid times, but well before Saxons came, (by Saxon times
roads on low, flat land as forests had been cleared and Sharvil route as
good as abandoned by then), - they built new settlements Southall,
Hanwell etc, but not on land with bad karma that had no population.
Horses, yes, they are intelligent and can "feel" things that went
before. I have a very
old map hanging up in my office, (Thomas Seutter about 1600ish) I'll
look at it later or tomorrow re Yeading area and tell you what I see on
it. ... more >>
- Re: yeading and general
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Dec-2011
Yvonne, yes pub at each end local
bit that's left but this track was once about 200 miles long. Down
Barns route shows the general direction. Went to Norfolk from
Salisbury Plain New Forest areas and ancient trade and migration route
and possibly ancient tribal/kingdom boundary hence probability of major
ancient battle site near Willow Tree but lost in time now.
Also I mentioned some time ago
other one that was Trumpers Crossing Hanwell, across Osterly Park and
has had route of the path destroyed across Heathrow. But this one is a
much later road. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2011
yes thanks keith sounds
good....your map etc...look forward to it.......thankyou....yes saxons
druids prehistoric...and I went to famous huge jahnahan caves aborigine
west sydney out by blue mtns ...was good .cave paintings..also they
still try preserve laseaux france paintings...many aborigine paintings
art work on antique roadshow.........they survive in desert...find water
roots of moisture berries
and live where others die..in harmony with desert earth..find by custom
knowledge feeling....last week tv more knowledge of stonehenge was
interesting river avon.link...etc..... ... more >>
- Re: yeading and general
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Dec-2011
Don't forget, the current main
road from Hayes, past "the Grapes", via Yeading White Hart crossroads up
to Northolt duplicates "the old road". It superceded the Down Barns
hillier route in Saxon times. Whereas prehistoric people preferred the
hills as they were less wooded and gave better direction points, the
Saxons generally went around them.
- Re: yeading and general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2011
so interesting ..hills higher
ground but saxons prefered to go round them....stonehenge avesbury tv
couple weeks ago more research there spoke of higher ground and down to
river avon.....less wood yes....the local history books by sherwood and
everybody remind us of how dense woodland...200 yrs ruislip reservoir
lido last week fireworks,autumn colours ancient oak woods..
bluebells....and highwaymen
google says oxford uxbridge rd by yeading bath rd hounslow heath
etc..trees heath and month ago read loads on hanwell heath around
viaduct chivy chase high way men etc..yes your boundary stone...loads of
readig on google bolls bridge ..boundary stone.etc......yes read 2
weeks ago that only recent times they built road for yeading
lane...being rural for so long just dirt mud track...grapes to northolt
village west end farm.....yeading lane rd now goes over louise cottages
area.ofyeading brook..... and behind westerly.... houses road of
shakespeare ave..... goes over the brook.........berwick ashford ave
roads go over the brook by spikes bridge.........dear ickenham has the
brook as it goes north hillingdon swakeley...way....the other one is the
middlesex society.... who have worked for over 50 yrs... with russell
grant,,his family generations uxbridge.......huge reaearch knowledge
they have...ancient middlesex,,,,all,,..in google west middlesex
society...heritage etc group well over 50yrs ... more >>
- Re: yeading and general
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Dec-2011
My Seutter map is about 1700 but
has no printed date. It covers about 30 mile radius from London (it is
in a big glass frame). "Yeding" tiny spot, no roads near it, and ditto
for "Downe Barnes". Roads on map from Greenford and Northolt go to
"Dormanswell" then to Hayes. Uxbridge Rd is main road, Hanwell more
important than "Eling", Greenford, Greenford Green and Perivale shown
as separate villages by
road link. Main road in N.W. direction went from Twyford Abbey to
Sudbury - "Yeding" completley avoided, then major SW-NE direction road
is Uxbridge-Ickenham-Swakeleys-Ruislip. Greenford Road is clearly shown
with current crossroad, but then road from Hanwell goes around where
Allenby etc is now to Dormanswell and avoids "Yeding". ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2011
thankyou all that info.......have
been reading...one of my maps gedding yeding,,,,,track called mud lane
grapes area north to northolt village...poet wilkes 1870 and moncrieff
prose 1907..descibes yeading brook floods boggy.....ickenham marsh it
passes edge northolt airport ruislip gardens tube......crane heron
paddle feet in water mallards,,freezes in winter....meanders east to
eastcote raynors lane
pinner harrow...called river crane then changes name to yeading
brook.for sharvil golden bridge lane downs barn..across as feeder to new
1800s canal.along south spikes bridge bulls bridge..into cranford
....famous watersplash lane...changing name to crane river going bedfont
shot towers of gunpowder napolionic wars,,feltham to isleworth..like
the brent into the thames.......hanwell yes huge tollgate turnpike
oxford uxbridge rd hatt pub......white hart red lion pub southall
coaching to london stop off,,,,waggon horses turnpike tollgate pub hayes
bridge......but ealing not so much...1800 old feathers pub ealing
broadway was old coaching stop....doomsday book....has some as oldest
proudly displayed in the local libraries....but not the later more
modern growth towns.hamlets...thanks will keep your info... ... more >>
- Re: yeading and general
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Dec-2011
By the way, the prehistoric hill top road along "Downe Barnes" is not on the Seutter map of 1700.
Don't forget, the Catuvellauni came some generations afterwards and
their capital was only at St Albans.....Their kingdom boundary was the
Icknield Way, again a prehistoric trackway heading almost parallel to
ours and leading to The Wash........But the map does show Middlesex
boundary going right up
& along the Lea Valley up to the S.W. sector of Waltham Abbey
crossroads. Everything to the S.W. of it was Middlesex. Also, the
Lea Valley was a "kingdom" boundary in pre-Roman times. ... more >>
- Re: yeading and general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Dec-2011
will now google read
catuvellauni..we visited st albans couple times..very
interesting....several times myself and dennis have researched
dormanswell.we both have 1500s maps dormans moat with around walled deer
pk manor house,,,,,mill pond off..golflinks overshot flour mill..bakery
there..area of.henry 7th of his advisor cheseman there....lord
manor..walled mansion hse by snells farm telford rd.deer
falconer for king at windsor......northcot uxbridge rd.lord of manor
hse spread area to high st southall.....dormanswell spring there had
heal power .one well left in allotments there...excavate done
1965.......lord manor dormans was dacre 1500 before 1574 manor hse
southall..and 1500 the oldest hse in southall was THE romans family hse
by the folly opposite manor hse turned into dairy now....just done some
more today..loads on google and hanwell.....mt pleasant allenby......old
windmill lane greenford field dormans river brent..hanwell of the king
like dormans.....henry 8th...good open land out of london before
windsor..falconry deer.......got down manor 1890 map woodend lane from
northolt to yeading called mud sometimes love lane..west end
farm.......back to yr 1700.janes street northolt area...ruislip rd
sharvil lane....southall local history society chairman lives dormers
wells lane many yrs........george twyman.he has fought conservation
norwood green many yrs and southall manor hse etc,,,,,, ... more >>
- Re: yeading and general
by LOUISE (Member 10267633) on 9-Dec-2011
So much history...I used to think
we lived in such a boring area! I actually can't wait to get home for
good.Feel quite proud to be associated with Yeading.I wish people knew
more about the place, then they might respect it a bit more.
- Re: yeading and general
by LOUISE (Member 10267633) on 9-Dec-2011
Yvonne..you have been to many places in Oz. I haven't visited Canberra...Darwin was a very nice little city.
Keith- I will speak to some aborginal people.They seem very spiritual and in tune with the earth.
PS: Merry Christmas everyone
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Dec-2011
agree every word you say...the
more reading photos films....and it is so interesting so rich...pity
those who are shallow and know nothing..salt of the earth our past
families...they made everything so good for us all...struggle suffer but
content full working lives..left their mark on yeading and
everywhere...you know the new bendy bus uxbridge rd.207 long double
length..boris scrapped now new double deckers take over ...today the last one goes to hayes......they get shipped to malta ... more >>
- Re: yeading and general
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Dec-2011
LOUISE, Yes, absolutely. They will understand everything I have said on this, and about your horse
- Re: yeading and general
by LOUISE (Member 10267633) on 10-Dec-2011
It's a shame they don't teach
some local history in schools. I went to Brookside Primary(1987-1994)
and then Walford High (1994-1999) and never learnt any local stuff.I
only know a few things from reading a couple of local history books in
my spare time. Maybe if more people knew just how special Yeading and
surrounding areas were in the past then they may take more pride in the
place. I reckon a lot of
school kids would find it quite interesting, especially the spiritual
side of things it might make them want to get out a bit more.
I remember hearing something a while back about the bendy buses getting
scrapped. Didn't a few catch fire a few years back? I know a lot of
people used to sneak on via the back doors and ride for free.
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2011
yes the news said fare dodge main
reason..and london middx traffic too unwealdy.long traffic
problem...yes local history books lovely...most libraries have
some..popular for over 50 yrs....but less get issued out to younger
people.......yes its good to know your own areas....ask
grandparents....age 11 have had it on the curriculem for about 10 yrs
now..project but only done for couple weeks..local
history the high st parish church .old shops.. architecture etc..and
family tree..they do...expect some schools
dont...............pity.......america has know your country
heritage.pride...sense of belonging .civic.behaviour.love loyalty to
their surroundings and its past growth.development....yes should have
been here since 1950s onwards... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2011
EXTREMELY good article
google....history northolt village....and around...12 century down barn
farm manor hse.....english heritage put it over to nature walks all
birds wildlife...because too boggy ..streams flooding ....deep layer
silted...drainage problem of dewatering...watery lane is named
near...they could not build yeading lane road till 1920 because such bad
flooding of the track path...hunt
farm west end farm by white hart......1st to 3rd century.abandoned
several farms there because annual flood problems...yeading
brook.......1951roman pottery found ...iron age
..prehistoric....extreley good article pages.in google....borough ealing
down barn...sharvil lane...priors farm by polish war memorial still
there,,,but there glebe farm of 1700s lord hillingdon ended
1980s......ruislip rd west end rd.........excellent maps items in baord
48 our site....... ... more >>
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by LOUISE (Member 10267633) on 11-Dec-2011
Can't wait to look at some old maps. Back to Mellor cottages...
- Re: yeading and general
by LOUISE (Member 10267633) on 11-Dec-2011
Oops sorry I clicked 'post
message' by mistake before I had finished typing...back to mellor
cottages...I have some more information.Talking to parents last night.
They used to know someone who grew up in the house next door to 157
Yeading lane. Sadly, he was very old...passed away now, so I can't get
any more info.However,the cottages have 100ft gardens...very long and
narrow.Apparently the gardens
used to be much longer before the houses in Lothian Avenue which back
onto them were built.The old man said old or sick dogs were taken to
house next door to 157 to be culled..many dogs buried under
garden...very strange info! I think this was around time of 2nd world
war? ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2011
thats sad about the dogs in the
1940s..got otganised with rspca clinic.eventually,one at uxbridge rd
hanwell one at canal wolf pub area southall...best wishes to your
parents from us...yes you on the main road..but when housing was
desperate they build lothian behind....your yeading brook
there.centuries of flooding,bad drainage.,,,to the left of it
southerly.in..1813 they built feeder channel water
from ruislip reservoir across brookside to canal up towards hayes
bridge....so 2 lots of water area.mellor....if you had cold damp..or any
kind of movement in the 1920 built mellor..unsteady subside
.crack......1900 they would not pay for yeading lane road to be built
because flooded so badly...up by downs watery lane 1991 english heritage
could not pay for the low laying ground of downs farm manor hse
moat..deep silt dewater problem...so put it over to nature reserve
..famous rambers footpsths..lots birds creatures...on that green belt
area...clay pigeon shoot..1951 dig found roman pottery....iron age
bits...sharvill ancient...all our maps photos ...flickr southallboard48
photostream...and 47 .and 46 .etc..best wish your parents ... more >>
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 14-Dec-2011
Hi Yvonne..we brought our first
house just of off Yeading Lane (Wyatt Close)nearly Forty Years ago..all
four of us became very ill with breathing problems ..it was so bad could
not walk to get into the car..ended up with us all having
inhalers..sold the house 9 months later..moved back to Southall never
had problem since..must have been the Boggy ground which we did not know
about at that time,the day we moved into that house i said to my husband i am not staying here.just did not like it.Merry Xmas to all.regards Josie. ... more >>
- Re: yeading and general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Dec-2011
happy xmas josie jimmy june from
yvonne tony........so interesting wyatt...so sorry your problem
breathing.....yes wonder if damp air in house or even
outside.........yes on map...behind louise.....by shakespeare
ave,,,,,,,right by the green expanse of yeading brook 200yrs of flooding
recorded...........seems bad history of it just there,,,they could not
build rd 1900 because of it,,so just track there..1913
1919...they built rd yeading lane to join 2 rail stations....wyatt
houses site on the canal feeder channel from ruislip lido...since
1813..going across brookside...spirits of dark forces water .C of E
church huge bell tower opposite edmunds...surveyors council
planners..how do they sell those houses £200000.2 bedroom terrace on
google.......glad you went southall..so sorry bad start......number 11
richard cope len doris to 1950 then canada..jessie haynes mitchell at
wyatt 1962 then canada.....2004 photos..and 1945 photos ve day about 25
really good photos wyatt on middx.net photos in google...the hayes
hillingdon uxbridge photo messages site.........my husband born from
near warley rd 1950.....mrs bradley her 2 daughters they lodged with as
his dad home from war army monte cassino,,etc.....so lovely to hear you
...lousie you us denis might meet up norwood green fete sunny
day..2012,,, ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Dec-2011
.............as I said before,
there has to be SOME reason to explain why some parts of Yeading were
underpopulated until very recent years. Perhaps our ancestors were
aware of things that we are not.
- Re: yeading and general
by LOUISE (Member 10267633) on 1-Jan-2012
Haven't been on for a while due to internet problems...Happy New Year to all
- Re: yeading and general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2012
LOUISE...happy new yr to you and yours
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Bonfires at the Prefabs
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Nov-2011
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Does anybody remember the wonderful bonfires we had on the green at the
Prefabs. Whereupon each year people would bring their old burnable
stuff together with fallen trees from the golf links & on Guy Fawkes
Night we'd have a right old burn up plus let fireworks off. Of course
occasionally certain miscreants put a match to the bonfire before Nov 5
and spoilt it for everyone, no one ever owned up t o it though because parent & child alike were angry at what happened.
... more >>
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 18-Nov-2011
Where Faraday and Telford roads
met, there was a bit of wasteland where the bonfire was usually built.
Quite often, the fire brigade had to be called to control the blaze and
sometimes the older boys would try to spoil the fun so our 'friendly
neighbourhood copper' would pop round on his bike to stop them throwing
bangers at the kids. Holes were made in empty tins so that long string
handles could be
threaded through, the tins would then be stuffed with rags and set
alight which were whizzed round our heads and called Winter Warmers.
The exercise without the tins would have warmed us but not so much fun! ... more >>
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Days of Hayes
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Nov-2011
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Just seen a doco about the life of Jimmy Saville who died last week. It
reminded me of those Mod days when we all used to go to the Blue Moon
Club in Hayes and such great performers played there inc Long John
Baldry, Rod Stewart & Julie Driscoll (who together were The Steam
Packet), Georgie Fame, Cliff Bennett (I think he lived in Hayes), Alan
Price and so many who've gone on to be big names. Perh aps others can recall names that I can't. ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Nov-2011
in google...hayes hillingdon
photos chat,,,...,friend and member barry raymond local. runs...social
historian etc lifetime..your age..there is.blue moon..cliff
bennett..maurice burchell.1960...also has ace..mcc.aec...george orwell
pub..white hart hayes southall,,lady talks of using elains dresses
southall.high st.....also frith photos site uxbridge memories b
moon....pkt boat inn still there..photos
our boards...husband.tony had searchers lad of his 6th form hounslow
grammar...we went to see them lampton pk next door.as bootleg beatles
good group also there.......dawes of rugby his chemistry
teacher..granada greenford on our site of pop...... ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 14-Nov-2011
I used to work as a window
dresser at Elands dress shop the broadway Southall in 1959 Mr & Mrs
Shack were the owners very strikt but quite pleasant. Remember going
for interview (I smoked then) Ipinched my ciggy out before I went in
halfway through interview my coat pocket caught fire Very embarasing.
Smoking realy is bad for you Ha! Ha!
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Nov-2011
thats funny sandy...lots people
remember ellands....even 1960...the huge net petticoats and full skirts
good for dance jive etc....people on other sites mention ellands
southall.....saw at hayes site......hillingdon hayes chat....and frith
photos memory site uxbridge hayes....they speak of liking southall high
st ..1950s60s...photos 607 trolley bus our boards good........bamboo
stick under bus for adjust trolley bus high wire pole............kerr cup....waterways...photo.............. ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 14-Nov-2011
Cliff Bennet lived down Long Lane. Most of the group were local.
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Nov-2011
my husband said the who..... etc
local.....hounslow .etc...adam faith nelhams acton council estate..many
were at granada greenford and oldfield pub..north greenford.....jazz
.skiffle. white hart southall high st...liked george harrison and paul
ringo over weekend..dormers girls all had beatles black felt tip pen
drawn over everything...status quo my husband always likes
- Re: Days of Hayes
by roy mcclean (Member 10250673) on 14-Nov-2011
i went to the blue moon every
sunday to see Cliff Bennett,i travelled in their van sometimes to gigs.i
also courted a young lady who went out with the drummer called ricky.i
cant remember her name ,i rember she lived in violet ave ,somewhere off
the Uxbridge road Hayes end,her family emigrated to Australia.there was a
place along the Uxbridge road as well further along from the Adam and
Ave pub that had skiffle
music during the week.i went there as well.and Burtons Uxbridge ,Brian
Poole and the Tremeloes were often there.and i believe the park
hotel,hanwell.most of the fellas those days wore suits,mostly from
Burtons in the broadway Southall.i also remember screaming lord such and
Gene Vincent at the southall community centre.my favorite of all though
was the boathouse Kew,sadly no longer there. ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Nov-2011
that hayes site is good...talk of
white hart uxbridge rd hayes...lots photos 607 trolley bus on our
photos...etc....hayes hillingdon chat .com.....in google..and knowhere
hayes and frith photos memories hayes sites..jazz eaing broadway
club...near station.....southall community centre,,now
finished........60s free audience tickets bbc tv shepherds bush white
city studios,,,top pops.......this yr closes...going
manchester way,,,strictly dancing about last show.....worked there was
gt...circle offices finished..new news block they built.......modern
glass offices bbc...there....but studios finishing,,,,,,,itv,,at south
bank audience gd and teddington.....eel pie island teddington rolling
stones.....dormers trevor baylis inventor still lives there.....but west
end theatreshow gt...we like to go...25 group and best seats cheaper ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by thompson (Member 10241148) on 14-Nov-2011
Remember the Shows at Southall Cominity Centre,
Cliff Bennet etc. Also the artist like Cliff and the Shadows at the Dominion; compere was Des Oconnor.
Recently saw Marty Wilde with Graig Douglas,have met Graig several times
as he is friends with our nieghbours, also met Marty before.
Until his death Jet Harris lived on the Isle of Wight paths crossed in Tesco's and at the local hospital. Back in 1960 worked with his first wife Carol's uncle at Cliffors Bakery in Heston. ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Nov-2011
was that the bakery along the
parade by war memorial opposite hestonchurch...generations my family
from there..elm tree pub rose crown..old queens head...the
george........we lived new wheatlands built behind church.my gt uncle
wingrove worked heston farm of there all his life horses..........martys
daughter has been nice..clever girl........des we went to his shows
teddington tv studios by bridge
over thames there.....he is west end musical at the moment........emi
records my cousin worked my goodness all the records we used
..singalongs .pop and musicals..including des lps... ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 14-Nov-2011
I remember going to the Bush
Empire at about age 7 to see Peter Brough & Archie Andrews had heard
them on the radio every Sunday Educating Archie was disapointed to see
he was a Puppet?
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Nov-2011
roy...everybody cliff of blue
moon...photo on hayes hillingdon.com....in google .......he on left
photo...playing 4 in group there..girl etc....in gazette......rare photo
colour 1974 gas holder train...on boards 47/8.....george 6th funeral
train past emi steam.1952 feb...townhall 1950 211 607 buses
greenline..with family there.george dragon pub.....1974 cenotaph photo
crowd....kerr cup photo waterways canal.....king creole photo granada start film 6.35 photo greenford.......et etc all there ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Nov-2011
lovely old theatre there
shepherds bush green..bbc tv bought it..we went see stars show and
little large there 1970s...........huge new shop mall complex there now
all white and glass with new stations and bus new roofed place.....old
shep bush mkt went many times.......brough and radio comedy 40s 50s on
free...tv 708 channel each week...radio on tv free........or more 4
extra on the bbcradio...daily all past comedy etc...loads on every week of memory radio.....all yrs.... ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Nov-2011
Been to the Bush market lots
of times with mum shopping in the 50s on the 105 bus
from Rutland rd. also so bush Empire must be 60yrs ago.
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Nov-2011
was stroll through mkt 60s
lunchtime from work veg at front then down..left side lots fabrics lace
ribbons...clothes tops etc...google says the who at blue moon
1965.....les sane.. sax. of levin way hayes 1960 march gazette photo
with cliff bennett rebel rousers b.moon...dave wendels with bennett then
with lord sutch.had...vic briggs friend of the animals group....moon
had the cream eric clapton there.sept
1966.......1959 cnd march hayes uxbridge rd photos....ytube films of
groups on google.......7/8 tony paid his first
single....EP...LP..vinyl... ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Nov-2011
I remember meany yrs ago
passing a bomb site that was to become the bbc tv center at
the bush i think it was the rubble from the anglo French
exhibition center, also i was told the reason the BBC building
is round is that there is a London underground roundhouse
underneath.
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Nov-2011
yes they did have big national
exhibition there...bbc tv opened 1960 there.all the studios b/w...then
1968 changed to colour......shape.doughnut knickname.........white tower
high nice on roof..could sunbathe..blue peter in there......8
studios...some big ones...etc etc..lovely place really lovely
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Nov-2011
Does anyone remember Donald Peers
- a very popular Welsh singer in the late 40's. He had a large
following, and had a regular spot on the BBC. My friend and I got free
tickets to go and see him, and were among a mass of screaming teenagers.
Can't even remmeber where it was held - somewhere in London.
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 15-Nov-2011
Pauline: "In a shady nook by a
babbling brook, I spend hours amid the flowers everyday". I can remember
hearing Donald Pears on the radio but not sure if he ever appeared on
TV. My mother and cousin absolutely loved his singing voice.
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 15-Nov-2011
Roy McClean: Are you the Roy who knew Maurice Johnson and used to come to our house in Northcote Avenue?
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Nov-2011
dear hearts gentle people..can
remember the songs....radio...had tv show...1950was on royal variety
show...did a palladium show..died 1973......some lovely welsh talent to
this day...gives such entertainment and pleasure
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 15-Nov-2011
We didn't have TV until the late
1950s and then a second-hand set. My father went out to buy a new
bicycle and came back with the TV, my mother was furious. Anyone
remember the bikes with a little engine attached to the back wheel? You
had to peddle like mad until the engine kicked in and you could sit back
and pootle slowly along.
- Re: Days of Hayes
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Nov-2011
Yes Winged Winged wheel, power pack ect a friend of mine collects them has 4 different makes.
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Nov-2011
at west ave by you...we 1st had
tv 1958.....they would only put itv on......my goodness all those
adverts jingles....brush your teeth with pepso
dent......persil...cigarettes ..etc...rented and man came in to adjust
repair...those valves.....one set was 6 pences in the side......tony had
colour before me......I had b/w for ages....thought colour would be too
gaudy..reds etc.....but saw nice green fields as it got better...and never looked back colour and quality is wonderful.......... ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by davo (Member 10030212) on 20-Nov-2011
I lived at 13 Wyre Grove in the
early 1960 . I remember there was a group of shops on the corner and i
remember quite distictly the toy shop that has a dolls hospital my
sisters dolls make quite a few trips there
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Nov-2011
friend mike collier sister
jean......lived by wyre grove and roseville rd...shops there........he
was north hyde rd...hayes................on google he writes bbc war
memories....4 yrs old...bombing there and cranford pk...watersplash
lane...1914 my family lived the common at canal played
splash........1952 did you hear of barracks parade ground orphanage beig
demolished.the huge stone war memorial
disaappeared..aeradio there 1960....heston airport BA took over
area........now golflinks on airport.......tunnel from wyre to cranford
pk stables building area........mikes photo with jean on tail of heinkel
111...in botwell green 40s collected money for spitfires.....my family
lived up from wyre at number 1 corner cul de sac..northfield park.....as
main rd and station...they worked emi 3 generations.......slater and
west........nestle opposite there the old cocoa factory emi being
developed modern.offices now...best wishes davo...cousin still nestle
to retire travels brussels switzerland now for them....european common
mkt..still we dont do euro coins...
1971 decimalisation..was gt the lessons we did £ ..shilling pence..10 bob..tanner etc ... more >>
- Re: Days of Hayes
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Nov-2011
http://www.londonmotormuseum.co.uk/
hayes couple yrs now...open..£8.....on google photos all about it
- Re: Days of Hayes
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 21-Nov-2011
Sandy you said you worked at Ellands did you know June Parker lived in Grange Rd turning off Beaconsfield Rd.
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southall and nearby...general..and gazette
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2011
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today gazette...emi hayes....sold for£250million..photo shows lakes
modern glass walls design large letters across...the old vinyl
factory....purplexed developer felt keep name history of site....14000
people worked war memorial of many deaths bombed,,,,150 acre blyth
rd...my family employed there....good 50s60s records we had....gilbert
willis deco design like nestle ...and hoover which said que en
eliz most favourite building......site for homes offices to be finished
by spring 2012......the ruislip 1700s dynasty vase sold auction office
by west ruislip aerodrome usa site..£43million.2010..this week gazette
remembers he kept it in box by bed..crowded auction 20 people bidding
millions,,then 2 chinese took it to 43m....most expensive chinese art
work ever sold...medium size....photo very beautiful indeed,,,from
emperor palace...son daughter found it in mums ruislip loft..none knew
how precious it was........ ... more >>
- Re: southall and nearby...general..and gazette
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Nov-2011
ladies working emi records
1965.hard days night beatles...we have ours......board47....10000records
day pressed.......are you in crowd.mrs hilton on our photos 1974
chamber commerce at southall cenotaph.designed after lutchen
whitehall//but not money names so st johns holy trinity featherstone sch
statue has names .mr pooley of southall and his parents and his
descendents he attended regularily and
to paradis of terrible war murder barn.photos our board........15 nov
1964 sun newspaper born.those born then electroplate silver mug...on
antique roadshow,,with not our gwr..but edinburgh train 1860 name plate
value £15000....6hrs to london..but pre 1860 1st trains took days... ... more >>
- Re: southall and nearby...general..and gazette
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Nov-2011
those especially
australia...etc........might like to see dozen photos greenford war
memorial today..........usual large crowd bigger than ever,,,,,,brit
legion.children..brownies scouts.....at shops...near southall allenby rd
along ruislip rd........in google.......greenford middlesex
facebook.............1974 southall cenotaph 1974 mrs hilton chamb
commerce photo with crowd..our photoboards,,,1937
chiswick bus works crowd,,,,,king george6th train steam past emi they
went out to see 1952 feb...as mine did at southall bridge..views
distance southall gas holder....lyons greenford george queen mary visit
etc prefabs etc..jewellers on corner was bewlay tobacco........emi open
day 5nov 2011....displays tour..photos there..vinyl records...hayes new
development....... ... more >>
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southall...general..and tv
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
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weekend antique roadshow..over yr ago.so on digital
freeview12..martinware southall.£30000..famous wally bird...unique
sculptured robert wallace martin.21nov 1896...eldest of 8 .4 brothers
pottery by canal..small blue tobacco jar..but novelty..not airtight and
hole too small.use..head comes off rotates round....so 1953 mum told
him...if you mischief.will know when come back becauuse bird head tur ns
round.....grotesque..scary huge beak eyes..head.....salt stone
glaze..shop fultham charles but hide.items under floor refuse
sell...fire..found pieces...he put in asylum...brothers buried havelock
but poor business not doing well.......1923 ended ..kiln fire 1942
demolished bits pottery found in tow path..near norwood rd wolf pub..my
gt aunt cranford lane married potter from stoke...he went work
there.died 1913.son stacked kilns a knocker.....glad saw wonderful
collection pitsanger yr2000 before break in .....now locked away.. ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
wally was found wiltshire....also
sold for £100s..unique rare film boxed in loft..malcolm campbell blue
bird speed at brooklands ..on banking......we walked it..several of us
visit it only south of feltham....copied computer disc..museum should
have it..conserve...photo bluebird ruislip lido on our boards...steam
mad bess miniature train 12 inch guage daily...after bess wood ancient
oaks...wood that covered
most middx medieval times..autumn colours ..buses pull up...new houses
flats.road...1945 beach train lido from reservoir grand union canal
1800s feeder....photos board shops yrs greenford...password
middlesex47..flickr photostream..coop milk float old hanwell..old Ud
horse float hayes....photo there....3rd pt bottles free school photos
there etc.. ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 7-Nov-2011
Just seen they have demolished
the Pavillion and Bowling green in Spikes Bridge Park nothing left for
all the old Southallians.
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Nov-2011
Len in Spikes park on Saturday all long gone only part left is running track all tennis courts new.
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 7-Nov-2011
When my son left school he went
to work for the councils parks department. Started at Spikes Bridge Park
and eventually looked after the bowling green.A friend sent him
pictures of how it is now. Very sad.Even their old tea hut gone.
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 7-Nov-2011
Having lived in East Avenue,
Spikes was my 'very' local park I used to run for Ealing and Southall AC
and the running track was our home turf, regular athletic meetings
during the summer it really used to buzz, even Lillian Board competed
there once, the last time I saw Spikes BP, about 5 years ago I could
have cried at how it had been neglected and become just an annonymous
open space. It was then that I realised Southal was slowly but surely descending into the dump it is today! ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
photo ..2 olympic gold medals
kelly...of.kelly holmes there at spikes bridge race track....year ago we
stroll tow path.took photos...new anti slip tar path bridge...nature
pond in bridge corner of spikes pk....hedges but can walk in from tow
path...summer...20 people over far side some football...also at durdans
pk.........tennis we played spikes from dormers ..but empty......huge
indoor sports centre
swim pool dormers.....pay huge amounts machines gym.s......but free
walk...or yrs ago kids free out in pk etc.....indoors computers etc
today.... ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Nov-2011
I was so sad to learn that the
Pavilion and the Bowling Green in Spikes Bridge park had been
demolished. When we were kids, living in Northcote Avenue, we spent most
of our lives in Spikes Bridge Park (the Municipal Sports ground)
playing rounders, running races and going on everything in the
playground. I am so grateful to my brother, David Hackman, for taking me
back to Southall in 2000 for a birthday
treat to see all of our old haunts as children. I remember the Pavilion
looked splendid and had been painted with white anti-graffiti paint,
and we were surprised to see how good everything looked. The tennis
courts brought back many memories during the war when my brothers and I
used to climb over the top to get the shrapnel that had been dropped
from the raids the night before. David especially remembered when he and
his mates dug a channel from the canal through the towpath to the park,
allowing the water to flow through. The next morning however, they were
scared stiff to see that a whole section of the park was flooded, and
made a hasty retreat home!! He also said that for a 1d (old penny) you
could hire a shot, discus and javelin, completely unsupervised on the
sports field with all the other participants. In fact, while he was
putting the shot he was approached by a man in a track suit who asked
him if he would like to join the Thames Valley Harriers. That was the
start of his athletic career, and he won several Borough Championships,
three Middlesex Championships, and finally winning the All England
Schools Championship. The only pupil at Southall Grammar school to win
an All England title. All starting off with a 1d. So whatever is
demolished in Southall we all still have our memories, and they can't
take them away from us.
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- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2011
thought had read something about
it all couple mths ago......in google.......£600000 raised june july
2011....january lottery money....by 12 mths hope to achieve
£2million.....ready complete for olympics time.....rejuvenate park
pavllion..4 changing rooms etc......money from tigers maida vale
london...ealing council..southall community alliance..............£30
million..dormers high and wiseman
catholic greenford schools 6th forms each got for expansion ..new
buildings demolish 1934 original..for computers science technology maths
art modern facilities....glad your david did so well sport...dormers
also did have huge field so javelin discus etc girls did there as
well.......dame kelly holmes photo at spikes track pk..........2007
google says original pavilion demolished another put there,,,,gazette
and council sites.........hedge gaps we strolled into spikes field from
tow path took 20 photos sunny lunchtime.......all along dormers lane
sports..open green sports back of faraday.and indoor sports gym etc
centre swim pool by senior school....new sports going up with their
£30milion 2 huge cranes building there..street view
birdseye.google...white clothes...huge often attendence bowling
green...so smooth well kept grass..surrounded by hedge rose
bushes...pavillion teas.....many decades.....ruislip,,,norwood green had
one......etc..........bunny pk bowling green is now a maze..... ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Nov-2011
Yvonne
So pleased I was able to help you with "House of Bewlay" name on 'School
milk' thread. Did you see photo of shop sign in "Wiki"?? Sign says
founded 1780 but there was no Trades Descriptions Act in those days, so
shops put whatever they wanted within reason, and you can see from Wiki
that "Founded 1780" statement wasn't true. I've never forgotten the
interior of that shop in Greenford,
but there were two other shops in Greenford in the 1950s that still
hadn't been refurbished and so still had their 1920s interiors. I
remember that one was a ladies dress shop, and it seemed so old
fashioned in the '50s. ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2011
yes the interiors of old shops so
interesting..and huge glass plate nice today..but little windows of 20s
30s shops..special...2 others in greenford 50s....may be ellands
clothes or sydney clothes.........google says
gluckstein.shops.bewlay.shops....SGsouthall broadway west...member lived
near hayes bridge....mum went in SG tobacco shop library ...borrowed
bks.30s40s.she was never allowed in waited
outside....wonder if mum payed for pinch snuff......just few women did
indulge....my gt aunt heston bornn 1882 died age 97........took
snuff.expensive 1970s....may be husband was soldier 1st war
etc...perhaps she got the idea there......photos on our boards..old
shops greenford 1st tesco pre 1960 between coombs baker and
butcher...macfisheries,,old sainsbury there....2 long narrow marble top
counters...historic photos interiors in google...interesting.....chair
for lady to sit.....cut and grease paper packaged in front of
you....fold neatly while chat pass time day.....tv show last yr...1940s
etc shops..back in time...was nice.........interesting you remember
carpet.1950s...list stall holders mkt have put
here.......gluckstein...of nigella lawson dad chancellor......her
interesting family tree..tv..and lyons.corner hse... war catering and
starving camps.nutrition.he helped...lyons greenford lots stories photos
on our photoboards...my aunt my neighbour worked there many
yrs...........thanks again...lido vintage211 bus recent yrs from ruislip
station to lido.photos..lido still nice.huge amount birdsducks
etc...new parts at beach...and restaurant pub...steam train..ancient oak
woods that covered all middx medieval times..... ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2011
in google flickr photo of shop
sign hanging..hse bewlay crest est1780..obituary of founder .from
ireland..chester has one now used by thornton choc.has ghost...brit
pathe film of park lane london bewlay shop ,display exotic and unusual
easter eggs also..online member went to southall school now totnes,,,,we
have been many historic places country..and totnes chester york great
for oldy worldy interior
exterior...so good we preserve.greenford old shop interior down several
generations..corner shoe repair key cut.opposite stall..going down hill
to brent river.had key cut before they closed recent yrs......one
historic at hanwell in triangle space by royal clock..wood beams.outer
decor..but pubs etc historic fronts interiors.the oxford rd..coaching
stop offs.........down bond st ealing broadway old radio etc shop photo
on our board...many decades long back been there..jam full crowded stuff
interior.......old hardware greenford.round by war memorial.sell you a
screw out of old wood drawer...think dot perkins old inside slide pull
out wood drawers...rouses photos on our board.1950 ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Nov-2011
Yes Yvonne, House of Bewlay certainly sold various different snuff
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 8-Nov-2011
My Dad bought snuff from Bewlay's it was cheap not to be sneezed at.
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2011
been looking at the bullseye
glass on google..but 1954...cant see what might have been sold there
then...it was table piece...large shallow bowl..mirrored..japanese
figures and japanese bridge etc....still got the bowl.....thanks ....
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 8-Nov-2011
Was the house of Bewley so called
because they sold tobacco pipes made by Bewley? there was also a large
tobacconist that sold all tobacco products in the South Rd.Southall
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2011
yes seems so bob...in google
about 4 sections...house bewlay..string of shops selling tobacco
etc,obituary of irish founder of the company......,became with imperial
tobacco .......yes can remember south rd there with the oldfashioned
ornate,design front tobacco shop....on our photos pictures of the old
maypole shops....with picture tile design tiles entrances.step.and
maypole design pictures on the
dairy containers.......monstead margarine southall green...meant to say
it was a member who waited outside southall tobacco shop west end area
of southall broadway...while HER mother went in 30s 40s to use library
books they had inside....but wonder if HER mum was buying pinch
snuff...samual gluckstein tobacco shop southall she said.....they walked
from their home hayes bridge southall........ ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Nov-2011
Yes
There is even a "Pipedia" website about old pipe/tobacco retailers etc.
Who do you ever see these days smoking a pipe in the street?? Used
to be so common to see.
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 8-Nov-2011
Lewis's Bob corner of St Joseph Drive.
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2011
several enjoyed heston swim
pool...bike or 120 bus.....this week hounslow chronicle......renew so
close.2013 open 2015...plans meeting..say...new.pool and training pool
gym cafe.dance studio,,,£5million.........local stories memories social
history historian...many yrs now at chronicle...ed mundey...lifetime
local age 90......online....nice read..........new heston
library.open...many local libraries new now open...
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Nov-2011
When I looked at the photo of
Greenford Broadway on Page5 of Southallboard47, I couldn't believe it.
It was like stepping back into the past, but it said 1965. I thought
surely this can't still be the same when it looked like the Greenford
that I remembered in 1945 when I was only 14, and often used to walk
there in the lunch time.
Having a better look at the photo it said "Greenford Broadway 1938"
so that's why it's so familiar to me. Wonderful! I know there was a
fish shop there because I used to buy fish heads for the office cat
(horrible smell when they were cooking), and it was either a Boots or a
Woolworths where I used buy my Brunitex shampoo and the odd lipstick. ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Nov-2011
Where can l see this Southall board 47 please??
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2011
so pleased pauline,,the magic of
images...most people so enjoy..memories..interesting...thrilled you
liked....yes keith 47 boards now 2 yrs collection photos....local..all
areas.........in top address...type..www.flickr.com.......click
enter......sign in......ID...southallboard47@yahoo.com.....password
Type...middlesex47.....click sign in..............otherwise in google
some come up with subject.......greenford
high street.....or north road southall...flickr photostream........let
us know if not see..............46..and most of the others....they
accepted as southallboard46@yahoo.co.uk............ony TWO are .com ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Nov-2011
To see the photo of Greenford
Broadway 1938, tap in Google "Photo of Greenford Broadway 1938." To get
into Southallboard 47 is a little bit more complicated.
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2011
yes...good pauline there ae some
quick ways to get into some of them in google......keep putting subjects
in google in and up comes our boards.....will try put date on that
photo.....or you can click comment there and put dates you remember
shops so well...lovely......anybody help..would be gt,,,,,any photos in
drawer...let us know ...put on.......hanwell .costons....brent
river...floods etc.....hardly
anything that is not there....ha.....southall.ruislip close north rd
heard bombs demolished houses there...photo........all yrs....click
enlarge full screen......... ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Nov-2011
Don't know whether this will work for you, but try tapping in Google
"flickr southallboard47@Yahoo com's Photostream"
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2011
yes have found that sometimes
works in google.........flickr.southallboards47photostream......or
47@yahoo.com photostream..........in google...............once you get
them used once on computer memory......quick...www.etc......and list of
all boards comes up on your own computer memory screen....just click new
photoboarduser to each number...as dylis does.......to each
one...........1938 can you tell us some shops...or whatever yr...........postcard sometimes white ink date is on..... or printed on..... ... more >>
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Nov-2011
I was walking into Greenford Broadway from
1945-46. It took a long time to walk from the Cow & Gate Milk Depot
where I worked by the Western Avenue to the Broadway, so it was usually
just a case of a quick look, or buying the cat's fish heads at the fish
shop and either Woolworths or Boots for the shampoo and lipstick!
I can't remember any of the other shops Yvonne as it was a long time ago. The
reason I remember the fish heads is because when it was very hot one
day I used the bus back, and when I got to my stop, some pieces fell out
on to the floor of the bus and the conductor was not very pleased and
kicked some of it off. It did smell though!
The date 1938 is on the postcard in white, so that helped. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2011
lovely...they used to paint on
ink in white date sometimes....I used to walk mansell rd to top oldfield
for tube train...board46@yahoo.co.uk....has large number photos
greeenfordhigh st enlarge full screen scroll side arrows.zooom...if
anybody knows shops put comment there.also.....see.page
6/7/8/10/11....1950s they seem........only TWO boards are .com
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Nov-2011
The reason I put "com" in Google, is because when I tap into Google "Southallboard47" the normal way, the title comes up as
"flickr southallboard47@Yahoo com's Photostream", even though I entered "co.uk" when I first opened up the new board.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2011
thats good...computers
amaze.........have tried to put list of shops greenford broadway
different yrs at photos....from research
google.....40s50s60s...........granada and 2 interiors looks
good....pubs etc....mansell to southall keats...every spring different
cherry blossom.lines trees....thick huge blousy deep pink..and
others....many yrs..still today.....ravenor pk had carnival....photo1937
55 bus coming through
greenford bridge they raised the ruislip rd.higher to avoid flood
across...poor field sports opposite.............today high wall along
costons.1920s deco maisonettes.......1977 aug terrible brentflood tony
could not get through for work........police in dingy boats paddle
sticks..new brentside school...buildings huge now........swim pool
opposite cuckoo at.gurnells... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Nov-2011
That wonderful photo of Southall
Town Hall with the covered entrance, the trolley bus heading towards
Delamere road, the old cars and the greenline bus, and the lavatories
which were at the side with steps going down - this is the Southall that
I remember and loved. I can remember we were all given a tour inside
the Town Hall when I was at Southall Grammar for my short time there.
Can't remember much
about it though. Even the wet road and the pudddle seems to add to it
all. Looking at this photo, all the places come flooding back with the
Pawnbrokers' brass balls along to the right, The Three Horshoes
opposite, and round the corner Butlers with the newspaper vendor
shouting 'Evening Standard'. We have lots of lovely photos on our
Southallboards, but there are just a few that really seem as if time
stands still for me, and this is one of them. Thank you. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Nov-2011
so good that you enjoy yes
puddles great 1950s...and in distance left north side old ...george
dragon pub...gone now...I enjoy them...they get lots viewings......town
hall.greenline bus....emi photo of steam train george 6th funeral feb
1952 think you said saw go by hayes emi....one also at ealing broadway
but not one of train going southall bridge......only luck if anybody
takes snaps and we find
them.......nice full screen...and even further zoom bar..and use arrows
side to bring up down....see little detail......family crossing at town
hall.....southall carnival souvenir programme there carnival queen page
photo 1958...cant remember them all of hand...trolley buses bamboo pole
under bus ..photo adjusting top wires...bus staff rule
books.40s...photos southall and hanwell bus garages etc,, ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Nov-2011
Yes Yvonne, we did watch George
V1's funeral train go past us on 15th February 1952, but that photo on
Southallboard48 wasn't where we were standing. We all came out of the
door of the EMI building, and were standing directly in front of it by
the sidings. I remember it was very cold waiting for the train to go by,
and it went by so quickly. I remember how shocked we all were when we
were first told at work that he had died. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Nov-2011
yes they said was cold time..feb
can be cold month.he would be so proud of monarchywork done since his
and his fathers death....other photos are sidings of ealing broadway as
steam funeral came by,,,,,,nice thing is a screen saver...like photo of
rain buses cars town hall.1950....or the 1940s of high st opposite
northcote ave along to woolworths......it fills screen when you switch
on..each time...change
screensaver when want to.......or put favourites into folder then see
when want to.......rare colour of from canal across rail with train and
gas works holder and spikes of high pipes..1974..on our photos etc
etc.......blossom at canal brent river ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Nov-2011
I remember telling mum the
king was dead she told me not to be silly, dad came in at
tea time from Wimpeys and told her the same the
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Nov-2011
just shows how much huge media
etc communication there is today..we look back see photos of him so ill
waved them off from airport to africa trip....says he went out shot
birds day before as usual.passed in his sleep....easterly sandringham
we went once open gardens and in house ,,lovely,,,but feb cold...yrs of
lung trouble..yrs stress would not help his heart circulation.good man
devote family....so
surprised read emi had open day 5 nov.2011.weekend.....see all history
displays etc.....sometimes not hear things till too late.....vinyl
factory.take over now...redeveloping.... ... more >>
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by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 16-Nov-2011
i stood on foot bridge over
railway to see Kings train go by . Funny how everything seemed to be
black & white when we were kids the mind plays funny tricks on
memory!!!!
- Re: southall...general..and tv
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Nov-2011
thats nice...that would be the
southall bridge then........steam train smoke......seems a lot of these
rich deep bright colour dyes..teashirts things...came 1970
onwards....think way back...brown coats etc..grey....streets etc seemed
black white grey...less gaudy bright coloured advertising..posters
etc...those liveing near rail and gasworks talk of washing coming back
in grey because of industrial
factories chimneys soot.....coal then huge smokeless zone thing came in
buying coke of man lorry....those leather tunic tops...shoot coal coke
in coal cellar..pay the man.was expensive....fog walking or at
busstop,,,,think got better after smokeless
zone..drive...encourage....polution must have been really bad......all
kids seem to have asthma today...never heard of it so much yrs ago.. ... more >>
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by Robert Dormer (Member 10260778) on 26-Nov-2011
Hi Yvonne, I see you mention
Heston Swimming pool, I was a life guard there I think in the mid-late
70's worked with a guy called Dennis Eggleton, met a lot of people
their, but only one I communicate/see, occasionally now is Mick
Drawmer, became friends with a Kim Gardener who used to use the pool a
lot, he was the base guitarist for Ashton, Gardener and Dyke.Used to go
to the "White Hart" a lot and the Greenford ???? had a club there, I lived in Heston, but stomping ground was Southall ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Nov-2011
best wishes robert .good to hear
you..1971 I lived wheatlands behind the church...family lived cranford
lane springwell rd.huge number decades.and heston farm horses and
worker.cottage to 1960......heston church and fete still good....scouts
at heston hall from fenton...my family went to the schools....norwood
green fete.good.....pool we swam..1930 built closes for 3 yrs
revamp.........uxbridge is
incredible now olympic size..dormers wells southall pool and huge
sports centre........photos our board48,,and other boards photo laurie
dormer echo bournemouth...jazz was white hart uxbridge rd
southall...white hart greenford rd by kings ave golflinks estate....both
pubs and allemby gone now....greenford granada cinema pop theatre now
tesco....kindest regards to you ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2011
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new tin tin film by spielberg..looks cleverly done..herge belgium 1929
but translated 1950 by bucks couple..borrowed all the time at my library
70s 80 s 90s by kids still enjoy .comic strip.etc...asterix goscinny
also....annuals were bunty..etc..comics..eagle .beano..etc..josie let us
know today that photo board of cafe on top of southall station...has
closed.........had been kebabs etc over yrs.. .flickr
boardphotos47/46..of canal common to bulls bridge.... industrial
cottages....and up on hayes by pass..view of gas holder...hayes
factories... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Nov-2011
Shame about the cafe on the bridge cant remember when it wasnt open.
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by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 7-Nov-2011
That cafe was open in the early
40's my granded used to go there for coffee, he worked for GWR at
Paddington, and went there before he walked home.I have never been in
there has anyone else??
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
first part of the war..he could
tell some tales..in google kebab.southall station.shows colour photo
..comment june 2010 used,,,but josie driving past says closed ..or if
our b/w photos on board47@yahoo.com....that cafe photo there
closed.....my dad and brothers used to cycle over bridge 1930s 40 for
work,,,from north southall always traffic..
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Nov-2011
The original cafe had been replaced by a modern P.V.C structure in recent years.
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Nov-2011
I see Southall post office is up for rent or sale
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 7-Nov-2011
Hello Yvonne...The Cafe top of
Southall Bridge has been demolished...Flats and shops where Greenford
Market used to be..Think the Market may have cloesd in the 70's..Buses
still going around by the Catholic School...Parking facing west and
North.regards Josie.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
you are wonderful
josie..thanks.....you probably remember the very oldy worldy shop corner
west windmill....after leaving hole in wall greengrocer,,,tobacco glass
ornaments pipes window..small.packed full inside think 20s may been
there till he retired bewlay...still perivale greenford bewley in google
photography.....yes thanks for dates my dear.....yes loved it when bus
came straight up to millets
bus stop after work dark late evening then dash home after loads
traffic through hanwell ealing......we all hated long round back..to
windmill then walk.......good wishes jimmy june ... more >>
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 7-Nov-2011
Post office moving to Hayes..Josie.
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
yes read on gazette tywman
southall local history society said pensioners..silverdale cant get
to..to collect.........from the generations yrs sorting huge building
south rd...........have photo big hayes post office on
ourboards.......do you remember oldy worldy.tiny.tobacco shop west
corner windmill lane high st..............think may have been there
since 20s30s...1925 greenford rd built.......
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 7-Nov-2011
Is there any one remember all in
wrestling in a hall in St.Georges Ave behind the Popular fish and chip
shop Mr Coleman was the proprietor of the fish shop on the other corner
was Sanders just inside the door was a large enamel bowl full of peas.
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 7-Nov-2011
Yvonne, you asked about stories
of the Station Cafe, well at Southall Grammar we had a very strict
Scottish, Metalwork Teacher called Mr. Fannon (obviously Jock to us) He
was a funny man and I can remember he gave me a couple of whacks, when I
first started to make a Toast Fork, I think I miscut something or other
and it wasn't a hard caning or anything but he took me under his wing
after that & would
help me all the time & even sent me on many occasions (during lesson
time) up to the Bridge Cafe (on top of the Southall station bridge) to
get him an egg & bacon sandwich, I know from the Friends Re-united
site that he sent others on this mission in later years. He must've had a
good heart really because he did help me after that initial whacking
& he was fine if you were on the right side of him. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
the number of hard times most
schools..north road talk of it...etc.....rare luck I bypassed it new
school dormers primary and girls school seniors.......something we didnt
have to put up with...........yes jean from australia,,,her gdad used
cafe 40s.....she will be pleased all tales.....josie drove passed saw
demolished now...was kebabs recent times.......thanks fred.....husband
tony was at catholic
nuns primary feltham...was ok...so lucky..his cousins went catholic
gunnesbury...solicitor .surveyor..seemed ok...tony went hounslow grammar
john dawes of rugby fame their science chemistry teacher....tony did
6th form sciences and maths then.college...worked NPL teddington...and
tanks feltham...wave science..his scientists..started lasers.huge giant
size start of those early computers....and had very early tried bounce
effect of bomb at tanks...etc....so lucky good teachers for him...myself
32 yrs worked senior school 6th form librarian C of E school was lucky
gt school.....tony network IT at great college catholic....900 great
students and staff...our friends ..the best... ... more >>
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 8-Nov-2011
When I saw the message about the
cafe at the top of Southall Bridge being demolished I thought it was
referring to the one at the top of Southall Station Bridge, and felt
quite sad as that was always my Dad's place to stop off for his
elevenses when he worked at Hansons the Builders. However, having driven
past at 11 this morning I can report that one is still there, albeit
now a kebab hut, and was
open for business. Another thing we noticed is that part of the old
Palace/Gaumont cinema in South Road is now open again as a Costa Coffee.
Some of you might also be interested to know that there is a meeting
being held at the Dominion Centre in The Green, Southall at 7pm on
Wednesday, 16 November - "Future of Southall Meeting", where the
speakers are Virendra Sharma MP, Councillor Julian Bell, Andy Rowell,
Borough Commander, and the Deputy Leader of the Council. We have been
invited, but are unable to attend. They say space is limited, but I
can't imagine them turning anyone away. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2011
thats interesting phylis..been
reading google and tories say support renew spikes bridge pk..and film
of labour at gas works...speaking about not wanting 3750 houses flats
there..because conjestion traffic.car parking.shop etc,huge complex
plans,say not space ..or encourage too much......so be interesting what
comes published info of the meeting thanks.phylis
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 8-Nov-2011
Reading between the lines Yvonne,
are you saying that they are going to build 3,750 houses/flats on
Spikes Bridge Park? If so it is an outrage. Hope I've misunderstood.
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 8-Nov-2011
Ah, re-reading it you may have
meant the gasworks site. Phew, I thought the place of so many childhood
memories was going to be destroyed. I really enjoyed the golf putting
over there, we had fierce competition amongst our firends.
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 9-Nov-2011
Obviously that should read "amongst our friends".
It's a pity the site doesn't have an edit feature.
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Nov-2011
yes 3 good google items about gas
works plans and spikes pk...interesting...but will be slow even slower
with recession.....but as look back for example 10yrs.....can see
generally west middlesex and central london great strides.......also
lots golf everywhere
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 9-Nov-2011
Dear Fred. Are you any relation to Charlie Gough who used to work at The Tube ( H G Sanders) ,and lived near Old Oak Bridge?
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 9-Nov-2011
I'm afraid not Bob. The only
Charlie I know of in our family was my Grandfather Charles Frederick
Millard who died 1 month before I was born. My mother however tells me
that she worked at The Tube during WW11 making ammunition.
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2011
expect hg sanders tube kept it
secret that they payed compensation 1936..death..hillingdon hospital
drained pints fluid.died pneumonia..lungs effected..all our family born
by old oak..1917..so 19 yrs old.ackers.money just payed for stone
funeral havelock and bit of black..nan never got over it..in google,,man
writes report in 1970s bad conditions there.he cant believe open so
many yrs..but it still
never closed till 80s think...3 generations etherington our family lived
gordon rd..tube by them.....nice photos whole areas on our boards..all
aunts munitions war...southall...shift long hrs...1st time they had ever
been able to earn good money,which was badly needed ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 11-Nov-2011
Dont know what the Tube were
manufacturing in 1936? for i served my apprenticeship from 1954, six
years plus, and never heard of any health hazards. And im sure if there
was they would have protected us, For they were a good company and were
good to me, and other employees
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Nov-2011
good that you enjoyed apprentice
and yrs there..my cousins had good apprentice different places..dad did
his and career heston airport and heathrow...all born next door to old
oak 1920yrs.gdad and his father used from 1870s..frith photo in
google....several good memories there southall...tube..oak pub etc..mich
nye manager 16 yrs there soc club sports..bowling..used oak pub..1820
start sanders,,1950s
mich there 150 yrs celebration..tooth tubes ali..flares MOD
pharmaceutical glue etc..70s there barry paul mayhew..alison fardon
janet wheeler..late 70s compaints need air conditioning,fumes etc..toxic
word used...our john 19..healthy family lived to 87ish.nan poor.. but
yrs of garden veg lentils catch rabbit...so they had hot stew all
growing up...etc...photo him 18 1st pay packets tall slim..new
clothes.quiet lad.age 19 dead they payed compensation...nan kept his
photo silver frame on wall at coffin place.all life..his brothers
war..so he may have died war....older had shrapnel til died 87 yrs doc
said blood low pressure heart etc..shrapnel caused...my dad lucky home
ok....photo 25 men locals oldoak treepub 1925 on our boards gdad with
landlord.....other one was by bar even to 1980s took my uncle aunt to
see...................tube back of gordon rd old terraces.1900s my
etherington family there to 1990s..regina rd my aunt always spoke of rec
pool betts.arthur chauleryan managers there,,,laurie dormer swim
..photos our board...cowan butcher.ridgwell grocer 1/-king
edwards..boyscouts adelaide salvation army gdad sisters there....pearson
draper.stokes fish chips.1950s.john lennon of gordon rd memory went to
draymanor grammar hanwell ... more >>
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 11-Nov-2011
Hi Yvonne, I also worked at the Tube, (not for long.)
I do remember the constant smell of Fumes regards
Josie.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Nov-2011
best wishes josie...may have been
ok 50s,,,,but 1970..frith photos memory site southall girls there
worked there.....have found 3 articles on google today..on what they
made since there from 1899..and take over merge and close 80s...john
miller in google of brunel university was there 9 mths wrote account of
poisonous toxic fumes.how did they ever be allowed to stay
open..1980.........funny thing was
I worked for beecham library brentford..we had collapsable toothpaste
ali tubes macleans.then 1970 they brought in fancy press button tops
etc..airgas.containers....so dont know who made them....fog wet air but
have nice weekend..1974 at southallcenotaph photo on 47..mrs hilton
president chamber comm.in 1974 long black high heel boots...crowd there ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Nov-2011
may be nice for you
bob............eric spires at tube 1957 to 65.toolroom.wife draw
office.marion prentice...now cambs 2girls boy 7
grandchildren......friendsreunited free site..click
places....workplace...sanders..then scroll dowm members browse..hg
sanders gordon rd....josie.......also 1967 pat terry buy office..wendy
shanksternebundle..helen jackson
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 12-Nov-2011
Thanks Yvonne. Amazing,I was Eric
Spires best man at his wedding to Marion in 1964. Will now be trying
to get in touch with them. Will keep you informed.
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Nov-2011
absolutely thrilled
bob,,,,,,,google friendsreunited........left top...click
places.......click workplace.......sanders.....scroll
down....click.....hg sanders......there are 2.........click one ..and it
has him..on his own.............can send private email to him there and
his email reply to you will come in your own email.......cambridgeshire
now,,,,,,,,thought his dates looked good......wonderful
bob have great time.......some dont reply on that site...often done at
millenium....phase.....and if their email changed,,,,,,or not computer
now....but 192.com ....cambridgeshire should have telephone adddress
electoral role 2000 to 2011...what wonderful success////ytx ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Nov-2011
oh dear.......dearest
bob....hoped eric might be in google 192.....but saw
geneology........click...his family has put there......put his name in
google.......so very sorry ..seems passed away 21 dec 2003...his dear
family there....hertfordshire..........marion..lovely family there
..bob...
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 12-Nov-2011
Thanks again Yvonne for all your help. very sad outcome. Certainly gets the brain cells working.
- Re: annuals .gifts at xmas...and general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Nov-2011
ok..bob...marion would probably
reply to email reunite sends......telephone number there
address,herts,,...and prentice family still greenford..her geneology on
google.......greenford site and photos nice....2 men been there all
lives..6 other ladies many yrs there..memories......in
google...greenfordmiddlesexfacebook,,,,,,,,,,,free in google,,,,,,,,our
wedding photos nice but get sad...our best man
passed away..and lost all our uncles aunts now,,,,but got all cousins
still ..13........nan had 7 babies large southall family acres..... ... more >>
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FREE SCHOOL MILK
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 2-Nov-2011
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Who remembers being MILK MONITOR......I do. I also remember in the
1950's going to school during the School Holidays to get our free bottle
of milk. We had to drink it there & then - our one/third of a
pint. MRS JEFFERIES used to hand it out at North Road School, does
anyone remember her. She wasn't a teacher but was always there in the
background. She also used to assist NITTY NORA.......wh o used to come to check our hair for NITS. Chris x xx ... more >>
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by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 2-Nov-2011
Remember it very well, delivered
fresh every day, in wire crate and you were always as pleased as punch
to be the milk monitor! but could be warm sometimes in the summer (urgh)
but was still welcomed. When it went to cartons it just was not the
same, although they did make good bombs to aim at certain mmebers of our
society!!!!
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Nov-2011
Not only do I remember it, but at
Cuckoo infants school, in Laurie Road Hanwell (it changed it's name to
Brentside as people had forgotten that it is at the foot of Cuckoo
Hill), it was delivered by United Dairies horse and cart until about
1954.
The old milkman's name was Mr Grinter and he just delivered to the
Brentside schools with one of the big old orange U.D. drayman's carts.
The horse was lovely,
but circa 1953/4 overnight replaced by a milk float. I certainly
never ever saw any other working horse drawn milk float. I don't know
where the horse and cart came from, but United Dairies still had a large
depot just north of White City Und station until more recent years.
Could the horse and dray come from there every day, or did U.D. have a
nearer depot to north Hanwell? ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2011
wondered about ruislip victoria
road large milk place...ruislip rd coming to brentside cuckoo
school..google says 1950s UD horse drawn float long lane ickenham.glebe
ave.photo horse drawn float there...big milk depot hillingdon circus and
victoria rd south ruislip....huge fields green belt graze black white
fresian cows high milk yield...farms there.....josie hillingdon circus
of famous master brewer
pub becoming morrison supermarket....gazette....this week
cuckooites..photos 1950s children brentside school drinking 3rd pt
milk...with straw....bottles horse etc..on board47 ... more >>
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Nov-2011
Was Victoria Road South Ruislip
an Express Dairies depot and not United dAiries?? I know the Co-Op
used a depot at West Ealing station where there was a special milk dock
for dedicated milk trains arriving from Carmarthenshire every day.
Traces of that Co-Op milk dock were there quite recently until they
re-built the new London bound platform at West Ealig station a very few
years ago.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Nov-2011
I can certainly remember those
little bottles of milk in the crates at Tudor Road school in the 1930's
and 1940's. In the summer they were revolting when they had been out in
the sun too long and turned sour. The teacher would insist that we drank
every last part of it despite nearly throwing up at times. I can still
see the milk in the winter when the ice used to push through the top of
the bottle! I often used
to put my bottle only half drunk back in the crate while the teacher
was distracted. Can remember being milk monitor, but not often. My best
memories of horses pulling the milk carts was when I worked at Cow &
Gate Milk Depot at Greenford by the Western Avenue. The horses were all
stabled on the premises, looked after by two young lads and a very
attractive lady who was in charge of them, and who kept the horses in
tip top condition. The milkmen went out in all weathers delivering in
the Greenford area to customers and shops. This was in 1945, but by 1946
a few electric milk floats came into service. It wasn't the same! The
milk was delivered by a huge scammell daily, but I'm not sure where it
came from. Wood Lane comes to mind though. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2011
more recent yrs definately was
express dairy,,victoria rd big place there..1950s dont know what it was
called......read that hayes had united dairy.also...1950s....also nice
joke.....dalton dairy hayes 1950s horse drawn float....asked the milkman
how early he started,,,he said hour earlier than regular start
time..had to go round the field to catch the
horse.....ha............lovely photos on flickrsouthallboard47@yahoo.com..photstream.of it all......... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2011
acton had lot
dairy........pauline cowgate lane still called...opposite new flats
called dairy close...photos show bridge hotel pub extended 1990.....huge
behind....today they do quiz nights ......meetings in private
rooms...etc......photos 1950s greenford..hanwell.. on boards
46/47.......new buildings of brentside school etc.........
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by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 2-Nov-2011
I remember being a milk monitor
at Tudor Rd, about 1943 and with one other boy carried crates up stairs
to the cloak room.A couple of bottles up to the teachers rest room. I am
not sure if we carried the girls crates up for them. The tops of the
bottles were used to make wool pom poms.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Nov-2011
Just read something I didn't know. Evidently in 1959 United Dairies merged with Cow & Gate to form Unigate.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 2-Nov-2011
I also remember that in winter
the milk bottles were rested on the radiator inflow pipe at an angle so
that they wouldn't be quite so cold.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 3-Nov-2011
In the huts at North Road School
the milk bottles were put around the donkey boilers in winter to thaw
out the milk, which was frozen solid. It was awful - hated it! Janice
(nee Johnson) will remember this. Only thing I did like was the
cardboard tops we used to make the woollen pom-poms. Those old boilers
were run on coke, which was stored in a big heap behind the bike sheds.
Remembering winter at
school, we recently visited the Guildhall Museum in Windsor, which is an
excellent record of life in Windsor. They had a good old film of boys
at school in Windsor (may have been Eton) who had made a big slide in
the frozen playground. It reminded us of the slide we had in the
playground at North Road in winter. No "'elf n safety" spoilsports
around then! ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Nov-2011
Dormers & Lady Marg. Rd.
school milk came from Norwood dairy Havalock Rd now the site
of the biggest mosque in Europe
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Nov-2011
You remembering Winter at North
Road school Phyl, reminded me that during the war some weeks we only
went into Tudor road school in the mornings or afternoons. There was no
heat on, as I can remember my feet were absolutely frozen!
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2011
coke pile at back of annexe huts
dormers..last day of school...girls posed.all over the place for my
camera photos..good ones of them all standing high laughing on top of
coke pile.....yes card rings poms poms and cotton reel pin nails french
knitting...juniors dormers had bridge at playground...slope going down
each side...ice...but gave wall effect in playground itself...handstands
ball..against
wall......nearly went to windsor that last day of summer..blue sky
hot..friday28oct.thought of parking problem traffic..so went richmond
instead..gt deer autumn colour ducks swans....view hill over west.thames
river famous bend.poets artists view......saw SOUTHALL gasholder blue
tower.with mosque gold dome in front.....windsor castle heathrow..so
clear....horizon with binoculars...east way famous hole in hedge view
clear blue sky st pauls city london..telescope there..henry8th view at
behead wife...his deer hunting...photos on board47/46 etc......will go
windsor museum next time while since been there,,,but parking...... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Nov-2011
No Denis, the biggest mosque in Europe is in Rotterdam
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 3-Nov-2011
I also remember heating the milk
whilst in the huts at North Road. You mentioned the pile of coke
.........do you also remember the awful toilet block at the end of the
girls playground. Very Victorian! Despite all, we coped, as we knew no
better and it made our generation tough. Chris xx
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2011
yes mosque different yrs they
talk of largest..neasden as well..but gets superseded..huge gold dome
southall see from hill richmond pk............girls playground
CHRIS...so you may be talking of dormers....milk.may be of north rd.and
coke........dormers senior girls had terrible toilet block behind
cloakroom.girls....dark long.nearly openair concrete freezingage 11 to
17 girls.unbearable..cobweb airraid
concrete shelter behind......1965 got new sci block 6th form room
upstairs brand new posh girls toilet.only 6th form...........1934
built....dad aunt went there...may 2012 demolish new opens by
2013,,,1400 students...2 huge cranes there....swim pool sports
centre,,,IT maths sections..art gallery art rooms.......photos on our
boards.......coke 1960 pile outside back field coots music
hut........milk 3rd pt bottles 1960 little rm corridor to
hall....opposite lewis cookery room..........smelt....little closed in
room...dormers...etc etc memories ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Nov-2011
Ah North Rd. the smell burning wet coke in winter, thanks Kieth thought it was Havalocl Rd.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Nov-2011
Yvonne you mention Southall
gasholder it could soon be gone i think harrow & Brentford
are no more, one in Soutport Lancs same type whent 2 yrs
ago
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Nov-2011
I spent 2 winters in the wooden huts in North Rd now long gone, had a look around early this summer.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2011
denis ...yrs in gazette saga of
gas holder...boris gave go ahead new £millions.complex houses cinema
leisure parks over canal to hayes etc....hillingdon ealing council keep
saying no....recession now...nothing more said about..money to do
anything.....wait dont know how long......photos our board old brentford
gas going gone....1970ish....southharrow had gas holder northolt rd
,,,gone by 1970ish.........my
uncles worked southall gas got their redundancy 1973 ish......derelict
since.......bright blue tower in the sunshine from richmond hill see
southall..and huge view off new hayes parkway bypass......will be
strange to so many people when gone.......LH......heathrow insisted on
it to stop that near crash that happened from northolt area mistake 2
airports....long time ago now,,,but still LH ...modern technology...but
wonder about pilots......136 ft richmond hill........high ft also
southall gas holder......loads photos blue tower on our boards ..end
trinity road ..many roads view the tower........gas holder...ometer ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2011
in google ...youtube film
talk...of labour council members along by gasholder...moaning about
tories etc.........they say southall green people not want more houses
complex dense people there...because cars parking traffic density of
more people coming there...say roads neighbours traffic not
cope.....cinema sports leisure plans to open loads plan to open,there
huge area land .fear of dense crowds
move in flats.....the 2 councils say no for yrs now...not afford it
etc..problems theytalk of....probably gazette in google......articles
discussions in google.......diagrames pictures of several yrs of plans
on our photo boards.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2011
google...they talked of huge
white with carvings often on tv...nesden.north london mosque yrs
ago....temple.....now largest west europe mosque morden south
london....10000.enter....says 2011........2012 plans largest mosque
europe near olympic pk.open 2012.40000 to enter...over 3 storeys
high.....press says.......
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Nov-2011
Yes,I do remember the huge pile
of coke in our Junior Playground at Tudor Road school. It was right near
to where we girls, all stripped to vests and navy blue knickers in PE
"jumping like frogs" while Miss Jones stood in her thick fur coat. This
was in freezing weather, and I've always thought it was a wonder that we
didn't all end up with pnuemonia! Tough old bunch in Southall.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2011
1927 built school I worked
caretaker went down basement cupboard door to do the old heating..room s
nearest the heating place were hot...but others farthest away
chilly....started to get gas boilers in huts annexes,,but went wrong
froze....council say oct march he says not allowed to divert so we
roasted or froze....plimsoles black whitening if tennis ones..we sewed
on treddle machine pleat navy skirt
white for tennis to go around pants...pneumonia was gt fear
decades...lucky your mum fed you well strong.outdoor play strong..all
our houses were cold one little coal fire....vests handknited
jumpers.knit scarves hats gloves..socks.......weaker and not good no
antibiotics... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Nov-2011
Southall gas works used as back drop for professionals & sweeney tv shows
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by josie (Member 10235627) on 3-Nov-2011
Does anyone remember having a
sleep in the afternoon in the small camp beds ..also the smell of
Varnish coming from Abbess...bottom of school alley.regards Josie.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2011
only remember dormers infants.5/6
yr olds....head on desk last 15 mins day told to shut eyes unwind
before going home......wonder how many schools that happpened fashon of
the time...bit of chance for teachers tidy pack up....photo of old mkt
top windmill lane on boards 46/7 josie....went passed stall and wiseman
school recently huge crane expand school.....inside basket at stall pay
till at end......we used queue up pavement pass over bag apples pass money back..over top.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2011
yes denis photos on our board of
dr who sweeney filmed there 1975 bodie doyle..passed away now gordon
jackson.....old white lion pub before pulled down ..down the
straight...huge dr who monsters etc...photos ...in google and on our
board......3D film of southall gas holder in google....295 ft tall built
1930ish german design...mike dad went up 6 pence....4 mls heathrow...LH
not to confuse with northolt airport...help pilots....car storage now...... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Nov-2011
Mum whent up Southall
gasholder 6d whent to Southall cottage hospital, Joise we had
nap Lady Marg. infants every afternoon.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Nov-2011
Josie, we also had a little nap
at Tudor Road school in the 5/6 years old class. Not that I ever slept
as I was too busy having a look around. We also sang a little hymn every
night "Hands together, softly so. Little eyes shut tight. Father just
before we go, hear our prayer tonight." I found the last line that I
couldn't remember on google, and I was so pleased to find it. I can sing
most of it, but I'd love to hear it sung again. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2011
had never remembered..but
think.now you say we did that end day prayer...wonder if it was dept
educ southall..routine..before some lenght walk home age 5..tiny table
chair.....denis yes mike and dad went up there 6pence 1930s money to
southall cottage hospital...had not long opened....view from top
photoboards..4 mls aerial photo to heathrow....be strange thing when old
gas holder LH goes..but waste
space...brentford high st by river huge gas holder our photos when
went..my northhyde gt uncle worked off canal northhyde southallgas
worker..born 1869 so about..1891 census...akers also spelt hackers..gas
pipes in at polish war memorial field from harefield 3 ys now..huge
pipes dug deep...milford haven to london gas....from abroad..all in the
news ... more >>
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 3-Nov-2011
YVONNE. The toilet block at
Dormers was sheer luxury compared to the toilets at the end of the
playground at North Road School. They were built well away from the
main school building, a treck especially during bad weather for little
ones. Those at dormers did at least adjoin the clockroom area which was
linked to the school via a corridor. Chris x
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2011
thats true chris...oh they must
have been terrible north rd.....1851 origin school..oldest southall...so
1934 dormers were lucky..liked all the school classrooms
hall.etc.except back toilets were so cold.......etc..best wishes
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2011
north rd school.....visit by
harry rowntree on google and spoke of by mike.30s.....such fine
illustrations artist.child fantasy.....wonder if school still has them
on display......he lived local dormers wells lane died age 72......
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 4-Nov-2011
I think the only times we were
ever sent home from North Road School during the winter was when the
girls' toilets froze and couldn't be used. Just think if that happened
today, what an uproar there would be!
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 4-Nov-2011
I remember that when needing to
visit the toilet block at the bottom of North Road school playground, we
had to ask to 'visit the offices'. I've never been able to find out why
they had to be called by that name, any ideas anyone? And I can't
remember there being anywhere to wash our hands afterwards! I remember
the extra classrooms in the huts, each one had a stove in the corner
(think it was called a
tortoise stove) with a fireguard around. The milk bottles were warmed on
this during the wintertime but I liked to drink mine cold and still do.
And any boy caught running up and down the coke pile during playtime
would be punished, perhaps with the cane, but it didn't deter some of
them, they were just got more careful not to be caught! I can remember
'story time' and then having to rest our heads on our arms on the desks
for a little nap in the afternoons but don't remember any beds/cots. It
seems that "our Southall" is fast disappearing as has Brentford, my
mother's home town. It's so interesting reading these postings as I have
no intention of visiting my old home town again. ... more >>
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 4-Nov-2011
Did any of you ladies do French
Knitting using a cotton reel with four little nails knocked in? I once
completed 17 feet of multi-coloured knitting but my mother got impatient
with me lugging it around and threw it out. I used to use the milk
bottle tops to make pom-poms and also made little dolls from clothes
pegs, the kind that were bits of split wood held tight with a metal
strip at the top (not
the spring-loaded ones). Then there would be a craze for playing
five-stones or bead swapping. My brothers played 'flick-ems' with
cigarette cards and also marbles were popular too. As for handstands,
well I wasn't very good at this but I finally managed to 'get up the
wall' only to bang my head on the second attempt, needless to say I
didn't try again! And there was skipping - all in together girls - and
kiss chase and tag (we called it something like releasy-oh). And in the
wintertime sliding down the playground on the ice to see who could get
the furthest without breaking a limb. And so on ...
... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2011
your french knitting much longer
than mine..pompom.made good top to knitted hat....5stones and
jacks...peck yes dormers juniors brought it home ..homework...go back
with skirt on it etc etc doll..nedlework teacher was pleased.....google
says lots school did head on desk rest end day or so.rememeber that
prayer..by flo hoatson..on google ..c of e schools still use it today
..she died 1964..wrote poems
kids booklets.etc..autumn poem..and baby moses kids hymn song...we did
the 2 lunchtime prayers dormers seniors for what about to receive and
the other one...funny thing last night realise can never remember where
had lunch dormers infants juniors.will put it on reunite...much is blank
from that school only 10things can remember..but stupid cant remember
lunch at all..playground yes...perhaps too scared to find go
eat...ha...scared when so young there...was brand new school..know did
not walk home too far.... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Nov-2011
Yes, like you Janice, I did some
french knitting with different coloured wools. Don't know where it ended
up though. I know our cat used to like playing with it. The game I
remember we played the most was hopscotch. Most summer evenings we would
chalk the numbers on the pavement outside two neighbours houses - Mrs
Bream's and Mrs Fuller's, and I can't ever remember them grumbling at
us. The five stones was
also well played. The only drawback for me was that our dad had made our
five stones from brass (or some metal coloured gold)at the AEC, and woe
betide if they dropped hard on your hands! Such happy days. ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Nov-2011
Talk of the loos at North Road
reminds me that when we went out at playtime, there was a eush for the
boys loos.After a few minutes a big cloud of steam arose in the air! In
my day, the Infants School had the huts, and the building which was to
become the medical centre
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Nov-2011
For the life of me I just can't
remember the loos at Tudor Road Juniors. I can remember the little ones
in the Infants playground. They had doors on them like barn doors, but
only half the size, with no locks on. The first day I joined the school
I was busting to go, and it was one of those times when it just didn't
seem to stop. The teacher was shouting in the playground for us all to
stand in a line, and I was still in the loo! I remember being so frightened, but then I was only five! ... more >>
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by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 4-Nov-2011
Yes I did french knitting at
school could never think of anything to make from it. However have
taught my two youngest grandchildren to do it Charlie was about seven
when he decided to make himself a rug for his bedroom he did about
3feet of it & guess who made the rest? It washed well and lasted
until April this year he was 12. His sister did not want to be left out
so I made her a shoulder bag she still uses it with dressing up she is now 8. She still has her moment when she comes to stay of doing french knitting. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2011
lovely that the do the french
knitting..some kids things last many generations...1970 think the phase
for crochet squares made ponchos...but many yrs they made blankets and
for the pram...long knit scarves with the purl one plain one....old
singer shop still seems to be near 3 horseshoes pub sewmachines
etc..embroidery stitches we made pin cushion.felt top . holes in
fabric.silk thread stitches fray
the edge....basket making.got the hang of it was nice...B/W photo of
old penny for guy photo on boards46/7....straw out of old trousers cloth
cap..dont see it any more.....standard. lion...benwell boxes
fireworks...board 44 has photo of old market top windmill lane..sold
most things....just type greenford high st ingoogle and up come couple
our photo boards...or southall broadway etc...use as subject index..like
north road ..high st..or king st...etc..southall cinema
photostream..north road school flickr.photostream etc... ... more >>
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by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 4-Nov-2011
Pauline, the toilets at Tudor Rd
were in a block in far corner of playground (junior) across from the
link and tunnel where the caretaker lived, I think, and were the boilers
were stoked up, the toilets were freezing in winter as the roof and
walls did not join up! could'nt see the cosseted youngsters of today
putting up with that, there would human rights trials galore
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Nov-2011
Thanks Vince,but I still can't
get a picture in my mind. When I think about it though, we all went home
to dinner, so perhaps I didn't use them much! I can vaguely remember
where the
air-raid shelters were - somewhere to the right of Miss Trent's sacred
fig tree, but it was over seventy years ago when I started in the
Juniors.
I seem to remember the times I got into trouble there though, like dropping
the bakelite records when I was carrying them up the stairs to Miss
Trent's room, and breaking a window in the hall when we were playing
netball. Then being the only one getting caught sliding down the
telegraph pole at the back entrance of the school, after school! Still
loved that school though. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Nov-2011
Sorry wrong thread, in Greenford today buses still stop at site of old market as they did years ago.
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by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 5-Nov-2011
Hi folks, haven't been on message
board for a long while had sickness in the home and then we moved
house, but had a browse this morning and you were talking about free
milk, I seem to remember paying twopence halfpenny a week for milk,
maybe it was another school. It was iced up in the winter and we used
to put it under the radiators to thaw out and then it was awful.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2011
so great to hear you zeta hope
all well now...take care...saw a great photo on google of few bottles
milk on step..frozen with silver top raised high sausage shape milky
white ice pushing up high...some with blue tits pecked in for
cream..........denis yes many many years buses stop and turn around at
top windmill lane at shops..cubicle there for inspector to stand and
telephone,,,cafe along they have
tea breaks....lots lovely greenford and north southall photos on our
photostream 46/47///flickrsouthall board....stall..granada cinema.king
creole elvis..load hay pub..litten....lists baker.redlion....greenford
one of the largest different number of buses many yrs passing ..photos
all old buses our board and flooded brent there.......hare hounds 1928
top allenby rd..and still there nice photos...rectory park along there
had marvellous firewks guy fawkes...but not now....best wishes you both
and all... ... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 6-Nov-2011
You mention Windmill Lane, Yvonne
& it immediately took me back to a paper round I used to do whilst
living at Dormers Rise on the pre-fabs Golf Links Estate & there was
a farm on the left as you go down Windmill Lane towards Greenford the
letterbox was way up the farm driveway & on a snowy icy morning it
was an absolute pig to go up there, it was at that point that I decided I
was made for better
things & told the newsagent (well actually I got my Mum to tell him)
that for 13/-6d a week I would rather go caddying at West Middx Golf
Club & earn 7/-6d a round, you could easily get 4 rounds in a
weekend and be much better off but after a while gave that away &
decided to wash golfers cars at 5/- instead, you could do 3 cars in the
time it took to do a round of golf. The paper round was very poor
compared with that & very unsociable hours. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2011
well done fred.put you in good
stead for keep branching out and off to australia..tony husband from
side hounslow heath .his dad over golf course..back garden shed full of
ball...bag up sell in the end..they always had dogs ..labrador set of
mass of puppies born under stairs.tony age 6 fell in river. neuts.tin
red paint near .his mu could not tell paint from blood at head...left
side windmill...walked
it many times..white hart pub..dr cohn...stone mason cemetery..had
church redemer and vicarage there...snells ewers farm dormers lane..by
top of telford faraday.called farm close now..out to burns ave.......we
were 13..8th parade prefab...photos prefabs on board 47@yahoo.con...by
the opening path to tube boles bridge bunny pk..we were same age..so
dormers infants juniors when 1st opened...my friend pam hughes lived top
dormers rise .diane squires family lived by the green...then little
shops in dip with huge wall..photos of all on our boards...now on mound
an old peoples home my aunt worked yrs...water regulator pump hse over
back towards millpond..photos our boards..dormers went science lessons
stream..wood..biology...seniors.we went to salzburg mozart..walking the
square film crew shouted out way.at fountain...home teachers found out
sound music cinema filming..so we all went leicester sq to see it
1965,,,,£19 train little hotel..19 saturdays woolworths payed for it.... ... more >>
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by thompson (Member 10241148) on 6-Nov-2011
I remember the name MRS JEFFERIES
at North Road, but I always thought she was a teacher; as I am sure the
class photo that I have includes her.
From that school I transfered to Tudor Road where I was a lot happier;
remember runing away from North Rd one day as I did not like it there.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2011
see if you can have look at our
southallboard ..flickr photo stream teachers.....and north rd tudor rd
sch........also photos on friends reunited schools.best wishes...old
swimming pool in hut north rd ,,they pulled down children had to walk to
new pool built dormers seniors......north rd ..looked good in sunshine
this summer took lots photos..school 1851 had banner up 160
yrs.....tudor rd built 1906/7
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Nov-2011
Denis
Is that really so??
I understood that the buses all face north these days when parked there,
whereas 50/60 years ago, they faced south towards Dormers wells.
- Re: FREE SCHOOL MILK
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2011
they are only allowed to come
into windmill..at entrance opposite catholic church school post
office...coming round..to old market so they face north...then go off
into broadway shops and off.....bit of one way around several yrs now
...to stop congestion.....but flyover westerna ave relieved greenford
high st..of worse bottle neck that used to be around 1970.....nice
photos old times buses there on our boards....
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Nov-2011
Keith i didnt say which way the buses faced only that they still park at the old market
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Nov-2011
Sorry Denis, When you said
"............as they did years ago".........my reply was because I
didn't think it was as they did years ago because I was told they now do
clockwise instead of anti-clockwise and your info suggested to me that
it was actually not waht I was told. I haven't been there for 40
years, so I do not know, but one of the other answers suggests my info
was right. Does that
mean the buses park on the other side of the road too??........as they
used to park on the side of the road where the market is/was when doing
the anti-clockwise circuit. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2011
narrow there....buses parked
facing north all the yrs I have known.........buses along old mkt side
rd ...now flats......and always many yrs in the road that comes into
windmill lane..they park there many yrs now.......coming in from
greenford rd...at postoffice....so buses cming in behind red lion
pub.........into windmill lane ...but some have to park in that forst
road also....then the others east
side windmill....and then go into shops and off.......it is a one way
system abit since before 1970.....to avoid traffic shops.,,,..so long
yrs no right turn to iron bridge at red lion pub......just shouted to
tony yes he says go all way round left costons to bank hsbc corner and
back .....a circle then go up to ironbridge........ ... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 6-Nov-2011
Yvonne, you mention your friend
Pam Hughes did she go to Southall Grammar? If so she was in my class. A
tall dark haired girl. Also as you lived on pre-fab estate do you
remember the boy (John I think) Webb he was a a few years older than our
lot (me b. 1950) but we used to hang around with him a bit he had this
wonderful singing voice & taught us many of the songs from the
musicals of the day & believe
it or not about 6 of us would just go around the streets near the green
of the pre-fabs just singing out loud. Sadly (John) Webb was killed on
his motorbike one night going down the lane that ran off Uxbridge Rd at
the side of the golf course, the side where Duncan the drunken dentist
had his practice. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2011
nice getting gazette articles on line..in google.............
http://greenford.ealinggazette.co.uk/2011/07/box-junction-extended-to-make.html
residents say july 2011 want buses to change...... turn left into
windmill lane as come into shops....then go around into little rd otter
rd...into greenford rd then left to redlion pub...because...the big
yellow boxes at traffic lights are terrible for fines..if
just put couple inches in at traffic..2yrs ago was £60 fine..cameras
everywhere.....welsh harp brent opened.greenford flood so bad aug
1977..police little dinghies paddle sticks...cars not get anywhere at
all...brent river costons etc....photos onboards,,,etc etc.. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Nov-2011
Keith the buses still park on the market side so they still face north you where right.
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Nov-2011
I have not been there for so
long, I can only remember the buses being parked facing south towards
Dormers Wells. When did that all change?? Similarly, the market
was still there when I was last in Greenford. When did that go??
Flats now?? Inside the market, I can remember one of the biggest
stalls was a fishmonger, and another large one had large rolls of
fabric.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
yes 1956 I can remember fish in
market etc.....josie would know dates changes.................1970s they
were sending buses around back instead because of bottle necks in high
st...but less bottle necks now because of western ave and new flyover
they built there at greenford bridge hotel.......new flats went up 80s
90s...help...JOSIE....DYLIS........not remember.....dates.......lovely
photos old greenford.shops
coombs lists ..butchers ..old tesco ..mac fisheries boots..moss chemist
..dorothy perkins..millets..discs record shop...sydney sinclair..shoe
shops ..curtains shop did tick...hp......creamery fare,,,,granada....I
can remember buses turning into windmill from shops..so pointing south
but vague was so long ago....remember when they could not any
longer...so all around back...pity ..longer time to get home from work
..some tried to jump off quick save going all around back..then
walk..into shops to walk home..........greenford library many times over
yrs...huge display boards...changes of greenford social history etc
photos......keith put your request on greenford middlesex facebook.they
know everything there....ladies and their parents memories are great and
couple men lived there so many long yrs......... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Nov-2011
Williams Brothers had a shop there. They gave out tin "tokens" as a savings scheme
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
windmill lane in google
good.....has 192.com ub69dw....has aerial google view otter little rd
round....3/4 buses at otter as I have always seen ..and jumped off
there.....before think they had to get off at postoffice...or bus stop
down near brent bridge.......get on all the buses opposite down there
near costons..queue for 80s 90 s now e1..e2..e3 etc buses.....to ealing
etc......aerial is good see
4/5 buses queue along old mkt now flats...facing north...inspector to
1990 in cublicle my knowledge,,tried to get the crews from tea breaks
lunch...his phone there.....your keith site comments...red RF .com....in
google........says cateen crews in old mkt.....there........nice photos
ealing greenford hanwell...211 bus ....lido bus etc......lido still
good....buses pull up...modern rd now...new hoses flats..huge nature
reserve..reminds me of slimbridge...winter visitors..huge number gulls
swans canada geese.coots morrhens.malards greebs..cormorants out on
isands no ski now..new beach water kids places..photos train steam our
boards..all yr.runs since 1945 ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Nov-2011
Thank you Yvonne. I can see it
all clearly now on the google map and see that Windmill is one way, and
so the buses can no longer turn in there from Ruislip Road. The
google map makes it all so clear. I also remember that the first shop
coming up the hill from the Red Lion was "House of Bewlay" a wonderful
old 1920s style shop inside with wood panels and carpets, selling
different tobaccos and
pipes for smokers. That sort of business would be unsustainable today -
I wonder what happened to them? also up the hill was a "Dorothy
Perkins" and on the corner of Costons Lane was a newsagent/sweetshop
called "H. Allum". Then there was another parade of shops that had a
wonderful toy shop and "50/- Tailors" ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
yes dot perkins there yrs......do
you remember top windmill..west side corner shop...very antique little
windows lovely full tiny displays pipes ornaments..my mum bought item in
there 1954..tobacco very old darkwood decorshop...list mkt
names....george rosy thorne sweets cigs....fabric mr mrs
gilliann...haberdashery gilbert...fashion greens..chemist
philips...greengrocer john king....gillhams fabric..peters
fish..charlie manager mkt.....broadwaysketchley...fish chip shop near
postoffice..goddards...yes was very old empty sweet shop near....sparse
1980s.on verge closing...catholic school using sweets but lavells
martins on stall corner they used..note window only 2 kids at
time.....in...deb gdad thorne mkt sweets..her dad bus driver southall
garage......police box tardis corner near redlion...all photos board47/6 ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Nov-2011
Yvonne, I think the shop you are
describing with the little windows (Bullseye glass l think) IS the House
of Bewlay that I was referring to. I had forgotten the windows until
you mentioned them.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
yes wondered if that you spoke
of..thanks so much...all life yrs have been wondering what
called..liitle windows looked in as child...tiny things and lots
pipes...yes west corner windmill...suppose it closed 1960ish..if he
retired...very old..of historic style...tiny inside.dark tiny and dark
wood..old fashioned counter.sure one of 1st shops as old maps on our
photo boards show red lion..brent cottage
shops not much else...30s.my aunts cycled there all fields.....dark
paint wood outside sweep corner windows.full to brim pipes
etc.tobacco...high holborn grays inn rd of dickens .lovely.ancient pipe
tobacco shops and few round the country...but age 4/5 remember this
one...thanks so much will keep that title..you are good kind
thanks...francis frith another good greenford photos memories
site......if anybody ever does a 3 pages across sketch of length
southall broadway shops 1940s 50s.60s.will put on our 3 abreast photo
board flickr..and all reminisce...shops went in all the time...long
sketch names and what sold would be gt for our board....please thanks ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Nov-2011
Yvonne...............Put House of
Bewlay into google - - v interesting. I think Greenford shop was on
corner back of Red Lion car park, (wide space there shows on google
map), not corner of Windmill (I Think)
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
yes got flickr so far ..photos
shop tobacco..etc..ornate oldy worldy...20s etc ...so old greenford
there...got part of my mums item..pottery base she had mirror top glass
items .stood in middle herdining table..all life..fromm 1954....between
josie me...1976/7/8 good guess for buses going round back instead of
coming into shops straight up past redlion pub from east...mkt closing
around that time..my
little tobacco shop definately west corner windmill....think it was
still there all through 1960s...used greenford 1954...and through
60s..then 1974 onwards..gone by then in 70s gone ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
thats lovely read yes 1790 shops
bewlay...says like salmon gluckstein.shops....our member talked of west
part of broadway southall SG tobacco and had library inside...30s
40s...her mum used bks....tried for days not get anything google but
ealing local history library probably have something........they lived
by hayes bridge berwick.....will look aerial street view
tonight........hanwell costons cuckoo
brentside school gd clear sunshine midday 2008 july great views....in
google aerial and street view...birdseye.....brent river higher wall at
costons..1937 photo 55 bus coming along they had to raise the ruislip
rd.east.....to help stop some flooding,,,old bridge there back medieval 2
bridges near infact across brent...,,,tony 1977 aug like all could not
get to work dingey police paddle sticks......poor 1020s dec costons
maisonettes flood again...brent harp reservoir they opened onto
greenford.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2011
such luck you gave me the name of
the shop...since 1954 never knew....often wondered.....great sunshine
birdseye 2008/9...long row red buses...narrow of windmill old ancient
lane........west.left white corner tiny shop at very corner was tobacco
shop..1954 1960.....think may be there 1920s30s beginning of greenford
high st...1911 census has windmill lane redlion...few cottages
shops...rest fields....the
gap you say......is birdseye off to right towards redlion..but always
been gap there...lay far back a hut fresh shell fish.....then corner red
lion...and off to iron bridge....so side pub gaps...car park areas
always been there.......lovely reading about bewlay...posh shop it
was..pipes tobacco etc.1920s design....still have the ornament item mum
bought there 1954...after in mkt to get shopping then long walk back to
prefabs.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2011
FRED.........just seen
yourreply....went a bit busy......yes exactly my pam..went to
grammar.long dark hair even when it dormers primary.tall..what did she
do on leaving what career...myself over 40yrs libraries..she lived
prefabs top dormers rise..used to drop her off then continue walking..to
13 ..8th parade over near path to bunny.pk....maze over there now for
millenium celebration,,,,,john webb
sorry..but never knew kids primary school names...william.ferraday
yes..anthony barnfield but he went to harrow now new foest near
ferraday..they meet up,,,,william comes back southall often his rugby
connection...yes pam went to grammar...quiet girl nice....snap my
husband 1950..myself few months older than you both...ha.....dads came
home from war italy.....hillingdon hospital busy births......we joke bet
left my cot for him....ha...few months later he born there......my gran
and her gdad born lived southallgreen..no church there 1806 so have
not found baptsm yet...small hamlet only 33 people and manor hse....done
loads geneology and social local history many yrs....was A stream
dormers 1954 to 6th form seniors....so if webb was he would have been in
my class....tore dress once short cut water pump near building from
juniors... barbed wire to get over into back prefabs home with school
friend chris hardman.....mum went berserk.1957ish..won only prize in
life exercise bk pencil sports day.that day but.........mattingly girl
age 10 over back of me...took me 4pm walk...top ironbridge to 3
horseshoes to station bridge...dark 6pm...I refused high hill
bridge....think she was making for her gran...police came dad home from
work...ha...me age 6..short...tired feet......red shell painted tortoise
I found on prefabs path 12th parade probably...ok with small fire..2
bedroom gas fridge stove .seperate toilet bathroom...photos over our 47
boards prefabs....we knew charlie bridges family fleming rd .. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Nov-2011
my cousin......left west ave for
sydney australia......1958........motor bike side car husband from hayes
4 yr old daughter....2 yrs difficult....then ok....worked sony to
retire......I went 1970 holiday £50 dad worked for
boac........warragamba dam...woolangon caves...paintings........3
sisters blue mtns.........we drove night to melbourne..through burnt gum
trees.....canberra .....melbourne huge
war memorial.......tour harbour sydney....home darwen.out plane
steps....heat.....orange soil......hongkong home....round world ticket
..new york los.angeles fiji...........she has been back 5 times
holiday...other cousins left west ave opposite woolworths towards spikes
bridge....went swindon jobs houses........1957.............still got
all my 13 .were southall cousins........nan havelock 1961 ... more >>
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 10-Nov-2011
Janice, I think there were some
washbasins in the girls toilets at North Rd. Trouble was, in winter they
were usually frozen up too!
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Nov-2011
When Mrs Thatcher stopped free school milk, she was dubbed;
Maggie Thatcher
Milk Snatcher
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Nov-2011
yes they did....her of
churchill....robert hardy just been on desert island discs...so
interesting...we had him at perform churchill projection horseguards
parade..so well he does it..his dentist was churchlls and made a plate
to get churchill voice and lisp..shakespear with judy dench..they were
at buck palace that week..reminisce..1925 born father headmaster
cheltenham college..CBE..and his BA english from oxford...james herriot tv...marvellous..and nickname edwina currie of strictly dancing..her tory eggs comment. ... more >>
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october.retired policeman asks does anybody remember ufo sighting by 2
public and several police horsendon hill 12 may 1970......rosina bishop
and brian french....lots good photos local and greenford
perivale,etc,,hanwell,,,,and 1977 flood brent river greenford hanwell
bridge....police blocked off row boats we could not get through to work
8am..all day...harp reservoir river brent let flood to gre enford excess rain...photos all and general photos also on boards 46/45 /etc etc... ... more >>
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by Hannah (Member 10258318) on 30-Oct-2011
Hi looking to contact Rev. Derek
Barnes regarding my cousin Gwen Wotton. Can anyone please text me on
07717325657 with any contact information or please pass on my telephone
to him if poss? My email is hani_morris@hotmail.com Thank you!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Oct-2011
http://ak.imgag.com/imgag/product/preview/flash/bws8Shell.swf?ihost=http://ak.imgag.com/imgag&brandldrPath=/product/full/el/&cardNum=/product/full/ap/3125133/graphic1
best wish halloween.today..card from stephen fry comedian off tv.....bit
long to type...but good to view...card..sound images etc......
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 31-Oct-2011
The Imag. com site has been rejected by Bullguard my security software. as unsafe
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Oct-2011
we have been using it..for a
while now... sent it the clever nice hallowen card to friends....they
just click my link....but cant put link here like on email......it is
good...shame not able to do a click link on our site here....just got
1932 1938 street map common southall.......and the west end of common up
by western rd bridge the common has different name 7 letters but cant
quite read ends in
y......manor way is above.....now it is called the common all
along........please do you know bob...thanks...........on our
photoboard46..enlarges full screen......it shows 1930s dog track
havelock etc....boac on corner southall lane...watersplash lane yeading
brok river crane............. ... more >>
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by Kathleen Campbell (Member 10236272) on 1-Nov-2011
I am looking for the Johnson
family Elizabeth Johnson was married to Harold Stephenson Lily Kemp
was her Niece . the Johnson`s lived over the green . a big family.
wondered if any one can help me. Please .
kathleen Campbell.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2011
went to school with cherry
kemp...if she is related.....think she lived off around somerset round
way...tall..long straight blonde hair...1960 to 66........was going to
be nurse leaving 6th form..but think she went in army......born 1949 if
daughter of your one
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Nov-2011
Hi Yvonne just wondered is there a connection between Stephen Fry and Southall
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2011
no dont think so...he just put
good halloween card out..clever funny..sent the link to friends..and put
link here but you cant just click it here..TOPICAL..penny for the guy
pictures on our board46....b/w.....think it is so long that seen boy on
corner with guy made full straw old clothes cloth cap in old
pushchair.....1937 map of southall shows no roads built yet spikes
bridge rd northcote etc there
up to tudor school lots empty spaces pre 1937..street map...greenford
old glass cover mkt top windmill lane photo there....so many photos cant
remember them all of yrs people remember.....local..... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Nov-2011
I remember glass covered
market Greenford used to go shopping there with mum when young
now looks like flats, didnt the buses park down the side
of it 105 ect.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2011
yes all the buses..and pull up
there tea break...hut for bus inspector to stand...flats the covered
mkt..we used to go in there 1954 etc....,big greengrocer hole in the
wall opposite....little tobacco shop on corner...and cafe the other way
towards red lion for bus staff........2011 oct...huge crane catholic
wiseman school..extending right out onto pavement edge...huge 1400 like
dormers...making 2 big
schols 6th form now.......veg fruit the famous stall looked inside ..now
they go in it round inside basket to buy..till at end....we used to be
all along front queue,,,and hand over money at front row of
staff...especillay xmas holly mistletoe..dates fruit..etc....photos
getting loads viewings king creole 1958 granada cinema. now tesco and
new tesco expanding......alley with flowers did funerals etc.millets
..lists baker..sinclair jewelers sydney dress shop corner..opposite war
memorial.50s 60s photos...westbrook est agent dorothy perkins..hsbc bank
along barclays....flood greenford brent bridge costons 1977 aug photos
there...46.... ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 2-Nov-2011
Do you remember the horse meat
shop,in the Green opposite the Manor house, with long zig zag queues
waiting outside, very popular after the war, owner was man called Bill
Clegg. Also Whale meat being sold at the Co-Op butchers opposite Taylors
newsagents,in King St,all for human consumsion.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2011
no bob...denis josie myself all
remember covered market...top of windmill lane from prefab
estate...corner of greenford high st.....stalls inside 50s 60s sold kids
toys....fresh meat ...fish...items home....kitchen stuff
etc.......opposite was open greengrocers hole in the wall......then long
walk home to prefab golflinks....bunny park path opposite..brent
park..west middlesex golf links..iron briidge
uxbridge rd...was greenford hotel.pub..became disco now
macdonalds....thanks bob best wishes.......read the ive family
transactions southall in google last night names roads southall.....king
st after king prussia pub...clarence st..featherstone ..dudley .all the
long list 120 southall road names there...reason so called...southall
green etc.........western rd called heathen lane before.because.heath
land..... ... more >>
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 2-Nov-2011
I remember that shop Bob the meat was yellow I think the Belgians bought it quite a few came to Southall.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Nov-2011
Yes Bob, I remember it as well.
As Len said, it was all yellow fat, and I hated it. I used to think of
the poor old horses! There was always a crowd of people waiting to buy
it.
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Nov-2011
I think Len is right. I remember
the refugee we had with us for a big chunk of the war,Mr van den
Branden, once brought some horse meat home. He cooked it, and offered us
some-we declined!
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 2-Nov-2011
About 1950, my father used to
train greyhounds, some of which my father trained for Bill Clegg the
owner of the horse meat shop. All the greyhounds were fed horse meat
which was cooked and minced, my job. I would sometimes have bite ,It
wasnt that bad.The greyhounds raced reguarly at the Southall track, at
Havolock Rd. and Harlington track,Bath Rd.
Len did you know Bill Clegg as he lived in Wentworth Rd?
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2011
our member..........john
w.....lived wentworth rd by the canal northhyde....1932 /37 street map
on our photoboards shows clear the old greyhound course.....north to
south track....havelock...pointing up to back end osterley pk
rd.....white city my aunt uncle went in the 30s.....alas the whole area
site going..new skyscraper office modern blocks there now......bbc tv
doughnut O design studios ..goes
now to manchester way...1960 built with demise of the dog track white
city.....back of bbc onto shepherds bush market ...so central line and
off the piccadily line..at each end....fond memories bbc..white city and
all from northolt station.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2011
the southall ....frith photos
..site...google.....has nice southall memories..overlaps with greenford
norwood green heston hayes northolt sections of people..........1949
dressmaker kershberg northhyde rd....off from wentworth
rd.....woolworths memory dance over top floor in the high st
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Nov-2011
In Greenford today buses still stop at the old market as they did years ago.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2011
well done denis...nice visit to
greenford......huge high crane by post office opposite red
lion....cartholic church secondary 6th form school got millions to
expand now.....those flats built all along old mkt.......stall still
busy on corner.....all yrs never could turn right at red lion...all
around costons then back up to go straight across to iron
bridge....borough ealing policy of humps in road...only
ones to gone so mad with it....allenby..mansell mornington.kings
keats..all suffer it.wentworth rd northhyde with its convent rd..also
humps.........tony goes mad about it..glad other boroughs did not do
it...... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2011
try new northola next time you do
greenford....josie liked,,it....tony myself did....wembly stadium...all
rubble...went into huge hills......ponds fish ducks....walkways up
hills..photos on our board and in google...at dusk lights
london..gerkin..canary wharf..new arch stadium...views...easter they put
cross on top.........month ago we had on the news..super moon....huge
largest....photos from top.grass
northola hills moon are great...north of lady marg rd by ancient smith
farm now house alone stands.........or off western ave..slip road to
it....on south side.....nearly opposite alladin factory tower became BQ
store now closed........good weather for you mild dry....autumn colours
middx are good....... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Nov-2011
Yes will have have a look on mounds next visit.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2011
yes..car parking areas a
bit...see in google lots peoples photos there and views etc.....you may
have been bus to greenford broadway from top lady marg...bus stops
opposite tay wood and greenford grammar...we walked from prefabs
golfinks...behind civil engin pub..new estates...off willowtree lane
left at traffic lights..modern flats shop restaurant marina
barges..grand union village...1950 famous sculpture
teamwork 3 working men..in green there....ravenor pk along to rectory
pk opposite was byron pub..south was kynack ammo factory war..and gpo my
aunt worked..... ... more >>
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by Alan Sabey (Member 10273716) on 12-May-2012
Hannah,
Did your cousin Gwen Wotton live in Kenton Avenue, Southall?
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by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 18-Oct-2011
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Anyone see the article in the daily Mail this week!!
Here in Australia we gan get the paper through Google and it sure broke
my heart to see Southall as it is today - all those houses with
extensions, I wonder how many people live in these places??
I remember Southall as it was in the 1930-1960 period
before the influx of migrants just after the war. Lady Margaret road had lovely houses with one
family living in them and were considered quite posh. I lived in
Carlyle Ave then and travelled up and down L.M. road quite a lot.
Have we any members of Southallboard still living in the area. I know Len Goddard lives in Hayes - is he the closest.
Jean Edwards. Henley Beach. South Australia ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Oct-2011
I hadn't seen it Jean, but have just looked at it on the "Mail Online" today. Unbelievable!
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 18-Oct-2011
Hello Jean, I still live in
Southall,it is not just Southall where this is happening ..if you look
on google earth over Hounslow Hayes for instance you will see plenty..We
all know who is doing this..and nothing is done about it..This Country
is the dumping ground of the world..People may live in parts of this
country who never see any of this ..but were all paying for
it..Politicians should hang their head's in shame for what they have done to this ONCE GREAT Country..rant over Regards Josie. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2011
best wish josie and last 10yrs
read so much about the midlands etc.over country..so spread so quick so
much..and europe buckling under...and..read of parts australia north
america etc.....good wishes to jimmy june you...still DIY improved
properties see..all over pvc etc...roads been retar..etc.modern shop
fronts centres etc...50s was poor and long wait money gradually see
money spent as well....improve...as phylis said just where ..should not be...but ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Oct-2011
Hi Jean i lived Lady Marg.
Rd 1943/60 in the flats last one upstairs on Durdan field side
have a pic of it on Flickr now very run down, can remember
mum polishing the brass window catches & stays also the
letter box, the flat down stairs is the only one left with
an original front door but now painted over, alas time moves
on
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 18-Oct-2011
As Josie said it is not just
Southall as you know I live in Hayes it is the the same the rogue
landlords driving round in their Mercs. and BMW's I go to my Doctors in
Southall very sad to see what a lovely Town it was in the 30's and 40's
crime is rife South Rd. and King St.that came from the Police.
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 19-Oct-2011
A very large part of the problem
would seem to be the fact that a council inspector needs to give 24hrs
written notice before he inspects the property. That's just ludicrous,
certainly here in Melbourne if a council wants to inspect something they
just turn up & why shouldn't they!
I agree it is very sad about how Southall has turned out but it is still wonderful on this site to hark back to the
earlier Southall & the safe & peaceful place it was. Doesn't
stop me visiting the place when I go back, who was it said "The past is
a foreign country". ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Oct-2011
that is a nice way of putting it
fred.thankyou...go between novel made into a film..by L P
Hartley.opening sentence of the novel.past is a foreign country they do
thing differently there...leo elderly man loks back on his childhood
with nostalgia all through novel..hartley died 1913.hope mail newspaper
helps get inspections..council government.do more.cameron had general
subject in hse commons start
fortnight ago..but topsy has grown so long.in general everywhere...huge
developments 30yrs in 6th forms ..myself .librarianover
30yrs..education intelligence skills.huge majority .modern good quality
people.living modern good full quality lives..nan and her gdad southall
green northhyde..but all the troubles and poverty of different type of
yrs.......read google fortnight ago..labour section southall by gas
holder video.blame the other and the other blames them...huge 40yrs
debate what to do with huge area gaswks.houses cinemashops.or not want
even more increase population etc..brentford gas holder at thames and
south harrow demolished..housing estates replaced over 20yrs ago..red
rover in 1959 bus..gt trip jump on off buses from southall to tower
london.etc..great days out london today...beautiful parts so
interesting..shakleton of our southall hall.huge new exhibition in buck
palace gallery.edward7th has his items from pole..etc etc ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Oct-2011
I remember early 50s boats
from Brentford to Westminster pier on sundays, like you Fred i
visit Southall as often as i can.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Oct-2011
river is so good boat
trips..according to the tide...kew bridge to richmond hampton ct...they
said month ago to open more commuter service.from middx west
london...use river for workers more...chelsea to central london
service...fast ones........central london lovely commentary tours...and
up to greenwich thames barrier..olympics will use....cable car across
greenwich to stratford......was the old
ferry brentford across island there ait and into back side kew
gardens...brentford new marina expensive posh appartments....by
river...... ... more >>
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by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 19-Oct-2011
How far behind the times is the
local authority, this has been happening since the 80's and at long last
Southall is rightly being depicted as a slum. The amount of illegal
building Southall puts Dale Farm in the shade, what will or is being
done ....nothing as it will be seen as a racist act! My dear Southall
what a festering you have become, so much for 'cosmopolitan'
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 20-Oct-2011
Ah, the mention of the Red Rover
and it's more expensive sister ship the Twin Rover (both Bus AND The
Tube) whereby for 5/- or for 7/6d in the case of the Twin Rover you had a
whole day in London and from the age of 10 my mate Kenny & I would
go each year during the School Holidays to see all the sites.
We would start at Trafalgar Sq & then go down Whitehall & hop buses to Tower, Madame Tussauds,
walk through Regent's Park or go for a boat ride on The Serpentine
(come in Number 66 your time is up, are you in trouble number 99!).
We were even there the first day the Queen's Gallery was opened in 1962.
I remember there was a public appeal outside the National Gallery
(always popular because it was free) to pay for the Leonardo Da Vinci
cartoon Madonna & Child & I proudly put a 3d bit in, so I always
say to my wife when we visit "I helped pay for that"
A couple of times we rode from Southall to Trafalgar Sq on our bikes
(made mostly from parts taken from the Greenford Tip) can you imagine
letting a 12 year old ride all that way today! You know whenever I go to
London these days I can still find my way around all gleaned from early
visits there. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2011
national gallery still marvellous
free.but went in queens gallery free this yr because ticket allows 2 nd
visit free..george 4th treasures..victoria albert
splendid.items.faberge queen mary..and now scott south pole and
shakleton items from royal collection..da vinci often on display windsor
now...august go around palace ..3 hrs I spent because so much so
wonderful to see....50s my cousin I went bus
southall shepherds bush.bayswater down to traf sq..along st pauls .now
gone billingsgate fish mkt wet there smell,thames,,tower london...for
few pence jump on off buses...can still see zoo from regent pk.open
fence.giraffes etc marvellous...queen85 philip 90 in canberra largest
flower show southern hemisphere.16th visit..1954.went 6mths round
world..now quicker.jet travel..melbourne perth..I went sydney blue mntns
dam and aborigine caves..drove night through some gum tree fired black
to canberra then melbourne...up to darwin walked steps plane massive
heat..then home 1970..cousin out there since 1957 ... more >>
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by davo (Member 10030212) on 20-Oct-2011
I was having a look at some
photos of modern day Southall on this site
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=471987 and i couldn't
see one white person . ( not meaning to sound racist ) I havent been
back there since we left in 1969 and i'm glad i havent , don't want to
spoil the memories.
Just a bit of info , i work with alot of Indians here in Oz and they all know someone who lives there or used to live there . ... more >>
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 20-Oct-2011
Davo you can walk through Hayes town and not hear a word of English spoken.
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 20-Oct-2011
The forgotten word NO.
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by Kathleen Campbell (Member 10236272) on 22-Oct-2011
Hello Jean Do you remember the Stephensons and the Campbell families in Carlyle Ave ? Kathleen Franck
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by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 22-Oct-2011
Hi KATHLEEN, No I dont recognise
the names, we lived a number 53, next door to the Wye's. I was quite
young when we left prolly about 9 or 10. My mum died around that time
and we moved in with her mother (my gran)
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by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 22-Oct-2011
Hi Josie, You are the only one
who replied to my question of still living in Southall, so I think you
must be the only one. I think the rest of us are spread around the
World lol. I was back on my last visit in 1990 and stayed with my
husbands sister in Uxbridge but I did borrow a car and have a drive
around and it had changed beyond belief - even 20 years ago. Best
wishes.
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by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 22-Oct-2011
Hi to everyone: Has anyone seen
the article in today's Daily Mail (22nd October) entitled "Suburban
Slumdogs - scores of desperate migrants crammed into a shanty town of
sheds and garages by ruthless landlords - no, not Mumbai ... London".
(i.e. Southall). There is a large photograph showing the particular
area written about but I can't identify it from looking at Google Earth.
Has anyone managed to read this article and identify the particular part of Southall? Memories are best left in Memory Lane sometimes. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Oct-2011
Hi Janice filling every where
with immigrants is not new to Southall it was going on in
the late 50 and 60s.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2011
jean kathleen gdad nephew george
hackers..wife kath from york ...4 small kids....he died there young.age
40ish.had been army all life ..may be malaria etc...1930s.lived carlyle
next to municiple pk spikes entrance gates...number perhaps small
number...perhaps not up as far as 53..we were west ave 1928 to 1961
/66.....friends reunited site under places,,,streets,,,,,,,has southall
members of house numbers
yrs they were there......mr d,bryne southall garage busconductor photo
on our boards,,,your relative driver there 40yrs.....no garage no longer
there...opposite asylum....had big canteen upstairs...recreation
there......uxbridge 20yrs ago...nice so old uxbridge still nice there
preserved...st margaret church historic mkt pillars......library local
social history good there,,,,new chimes shop mall centre opposite 3 tuns
pub..pedetrian precinct....multistorey car pk...esculators .high shop
mall modern...odeon cinema top floor......ring road round dual
carriageway...raf now houses but bunker HQ still open there....swan
bottle pub at canal river fray..my cousins gdad ran uxbridge pub his
daughter went to frays nursery,,,uxbridge outdoor swim pool new last yr
olympic size...huge uxbridge civic centre there now..borough hillingdon
uxb high st... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2011
carlyle with the yr
onwards....1953 williams 48....1952 collins dixon 52....1954 tubb
39.....1930 campbell 30.....1946 currier 44....johnson
15..1947.....photos carlyle in the 40s/50s..on our photo
board.........lots such rare good photos of all.....lots photos yrs gone
by uniforms bus ticket machine etc.there...rowses daniels rare photos
west ealing...etc etc.......good tvbbc2 and channel 4...1940s..documentaries lately...... ... more >>
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by johnwendy (Member 10249696) on 24-Oct-2011
Hi it says its Scotts Rd and
Marlborough Rd.We left Southall 2010 because it just isnt a safe place
to be either when youre out doing a bit of shopping or even at times sat
at home.I would add that those extensions at the end of the gardens are
nothing new and started popping up in the 80s.Hayes is just an
extension of Southall now,God we used to think Hayes was posh compared
to Southall!unfortunately
some of the friends of our parents have been left there in a place that
no longer resembles the place they grew up in,we do pop back to see a
couple of these "old uns" and its heartbreaking to see them left
behind,keep your memories of southall of old because it just isnt home
anymore. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2011
thought probably old
southall....southall green...scott rd..over by railway old gasworks
etc......but everywhere.........also some of the near towns....30yrs now
they have been building extensions on what was our side gate areas to
garden coal man around back...so 2 rooms extra now one above
another.....no garage...car on concreted over front...high like flats of
the 1930s houses..extended up in loft
to make rooms up there...square top on top of houses.....push planning
permission to limit........yes some is the population problem...but some
is massive high morgage rates council tax......greater
london........rent out side bit or top bit ..or extended family
share.......my cousins 1957 and.many moved out because could not afford
get morgage buy house flat ...some of the outer towns villages
neighbourhood watch residents committees try hard to keep standard we
and our families have always had in past......many towns
improved..modern ..and modern shops roads etc....huge amount
good...smaller amount not.....countrywide........queen further out to
brisbane today....so sorry about floods heartbreaking for them.... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Oct-2011
I remember being told of a
row of houses in the 50s before we left Southall all the
owners could hear movements in there lofts on inspection
found them full of workers on shifts at Wolfe rubber
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2011
to 2011 loft extensions seem big
business...square block built on top of 1920s30s houses..rooms up
there...so can split the morgage with lodger or extended family..presume
split share the council tax as well........car on concreted
front........google street view 2008...goes round most roads
....jean........most of us have had look..most white pvc new windows
doors double glazed...........jean pauline.lovely
photos 1955 langley on board46,,slough museum site in google is very
good..etc etc photos there..southall carnival.1958........just done my
side of family talbot 1890 heston onwards.then back 3 generations to yrs
back at langley cowley iver........whipthong leather
skill..makers...for cattle cows rural life...the father leather harness
maker.... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Oct-2011
It was lovely to see all the old
photos of Langley village again Yvonne. Thank you. Every one of them
brought s whole heap of memories back. We moved in to the village in
1956, so it is like having a quick glimpse into the past. That first
photo of the "Rose & Crown" had the public bar with sawdust on the
floor, and I remember seeing people coming out with a jug full of beer!
When I last had a trip
to Langley with the google map,it was completely unrecognisable so, like
Southall, I prefer to remember it as it was. You wouldn't get me back
to Southall again for love nor money! ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2011
so glad langley pleasure...hope
jean sees board46.......norwood green was ok last yrs of fete.70 yrs
good fetes..lovely everybody says...as phyls says it is where
exactly.....like so many parts of the country..which roads
where......gorgeous sunny 2011 visit north road green..took loads
photos..west avenue ok....and took lots photos lady marg rd allenby
dormers.....was ok sunny afternoon.the schools
are good on ofsted..exam passes 6th form uni skills
achieved.......bankside tudor rd ok hayes bridge.........never go to old
dense back ways.areas.or at night...like other parts country
also.....but spikes is lovely walked tow path and across municiple
pk..ok sunny lunchtime.carlyle greenford ave ok......pop in out around
the edges not go in dense areas.....daytime.greenford oldfield lane
ruislip rd ok.......our boards photos memories etc had many
viewings....king creole elvis granada 1958 greenford.....prefab
photos...1940 aerial maps prefab square block.on our photo
boards.....long list photos 50s 40s local
there...........flickrsouthallboardsphotostream 46 boards put the number
in....bridge hotel has regular quiz night and xmas
event..greenford..library has for yrs social history nostalgia boards
displays........ealing library annual 7pm talks local social history of
nostalgia families interests.....most towns have family history society
residents society local interesting facts..for last 70 yrs they still
exsist....members..publish booklets etc...queen sunny oz melbourne tram
today.85 /90 yrs old gt...16th visit ... more >>
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by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 26-Oct-2011
Yes Yvonne, I have seen board 46,
managed to get in today and loved the pictures of Langley in the 50's -
that is when we moved there. And to see the pond again, I knew it had
been filled in but great to see it again. Both my children were
baptised in St Mary's church, and the photos brought back a lot of
memories.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2011
wonderful jean...so
pleased....baptism seems to loose custom..we were all baptised holy
rinity southall uxbridge rd....nan gdad s crowd heston church and before
that they were hayes church...try the other 45 boards...rare and lovely
photos etc..local......just done talbot side family going back to 1800s
langley iver cowley they were craftsmen tradesmen ...whip thong makers
for cattle cows..and leather
makers harness.....before moving in as rural decline did 1800s into
middlesex west london...heston....modern times we move out over crowding
massive house morgages and council tax.etc..move out to greenery outer
london bucks etc...ha.....canal then railway came in factories main new
roads.rows rows tight housing...and now people long for greenery and
villages.....southall green my family tree 1800s only 33 people said
vicar book..tiny hamlet manor hse 4 farms.and workhouse for travellers
passing through...navvies just cut the canal....best wishes you and
australia.. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Oct-2011
Yes, my eldest daughter was also
christened at St Mary's church, Langley. I remember quite clearly that
the whole family on both sides walked to the church from Raymond road,
and my sister-in-law (the godmother) pushed the pram. No cars in those
days, only bikes!
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by Ricky Singh (Member 10242207) on 30-Oct-2011
WELL DONE TO THE MAIL! Finally
this problem has been recognised by the media. My parents moved to
Southall in the 60's and have always told me how nice it was and they
are disgusted with what is going on in southall now.
The streets are filthy, so many illegal immigrants and the building of illegal buildings in peoples back gardens.
I even complained to Ealing council about some of these buildings
around my area, i mentioned that these buildings are blocking the fire
escape path that runs behind the houses. Ealing council did NOTHING!
Being a taxpayer im sure you all know how pissed off I am with this situation. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2011
1960s and before...best wishes
ricky..you gave us nice info maypole margarine factory southall library
manor house..couple yrs several try get to norwood green fete july..tea
drinks canopy tables chairs,,with photos books etc chat...see you
there..birds prey dogs event skills..music 11 am to 5pm...lots parking
round and on grass...denis gdad southall green etc..sure he myself
husband others etc would
like chat...nice memories etc..st mary church there open all names
famous old southall in side there..took 20 photos inside.plough pub low
beams open log fire.built there yr1200s..fullers now...horticulture hall
there....arena events ...all schools dance sing...all southall
greenford hanwell hayes heston etc photos all yrs ..flickr southallboard
46 photostreams.....in google or top left address bar..... ... more >>
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by davo (Member 10030212) on 31-Oct-2011
LEN , I lived at number 13 wyre grove ( spelling) in Hayes in the mid 1960,s
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Oct-2011
davo 1952 along by you.did you
hear of the demolition...they demolished the orphanage..old
barracks..front parade ground...top southall lane...just before
you.......1960 aeradio house.offices..boac...BA....map1938 later...
street map shows it as boac there..our photoboard46.....nestle canal
opposite you..my cousin lived northhyde pk cul de sac number 1 on
corner...at top as it meets station rd......new
hayes by pass now...with huge tesco at corner........pedestrian
precinct hayes high st now....cranford pk..subway from back of yur road
into stable block... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2011
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in google 15 mins film...poetry prose so nice..sweet shop..yellow light
when dusk comes.families memories......tv flog it visits parts
country...kings lynn...family memories...type true yard click northend
memories..several films.narrates...sherbert dips liquorice
allsorts.jars...scrubbed step...steam train..2 kept as museum yard of 10
cottages one central tap...as the common southall mt pleasant 1800s
old dwelling s were.atcanal.by old oak 13 of them..brickfields
opposite..............pity flog it axed bbc ecomony..interesting
compared to rubbish tv.... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Oct-2011
I think we are about to see a lot more rubbish bet they dont cut the licence.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2011
itv payed for by the advertisers
has lot rubbish..photos board 45 target pub...castle ruins mansion hse
burnt down southall pk...cattletrough outside ealing
hospital...foundation stone countess jersey 1897 town hall..hayes
football club last day photo .northolt village as was...woolly mammouth
norwood green skeleton found 1887 in museum london..northolt pony track
etc photos..
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2011
shops...greenford broadway
etc..photos all yrs ..popular viewings board46 etc//josie dilys pauline
lists bakers fred...members have mentioned..crossrds all yrs photos
granada cinema deco burtons costons keith....josie old glasss covered
open front mkt windmill lane old church and rectory in lane before went
to allemby and old catholic church father crealy.died 101 yrs
old.greenford..photos..organ
6 pages and photos granada cinema..board46.....floods.river
brent....war bombing photoruislip close of close mornington bombing
photo.mike....load hay litten tree pub....len spoke of
boxing..southallgreen lightweight family came on our site.....lived
ealing buried st mary hanwell by bunny pk.is 1967 age77 bombadier billy
wells heavy weight..gazette article lots google..photo our board 6ft 3
inch..5 kids.gold londsdale belt...photo civil engineer denis and lady
marg juniors and cranleigh jubilee pks..cottages opposite
beehive...kelvin gdns photo close up wreck plane...prefabs southall
greenford northolt photos there ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Oct-2011
Thanks Yvonne is that old engineers or new cant seem to get pics up on sreen
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2011
yes nice picture engineers there
now..carvery they do...some of old taylor in ruins...teamwork sculpture
still there..photo...lady marg school...etc etc..........sometimes in
google...type southallboard46sphotostream ...comes up.........or in top
...www.flickr.co.uk..click entry..sign in.click
...ID..southallboard46@yahoo.co.uk....password is
middlesex46......invinca ave prefab there by there northolt....all
race tracks....sometimes in google type a subject..put southallboards
photostream civil engineer pub.........or taylor woodrow...or greenford
high street,,,,and up comes......featherstone rd western rd there
board45 etc etc..all years.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2011
in google 4 of the photo boards
come up........if you type.......southallboards photostream high
street.............buses greenford good on board46..all years..interior
old tesco and sainsbury high st memories there...lyons,,,,,,,last bomb
borough ealing defused was keats way..near allemby...lovely thick pink
blossom annually there.....cherry trees.....allemby photos there....etc
etc everything really....cranleigh jubilee pks.....hare hounds one oldest pubs litten now flats ravenor pk all years there..... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2011
in google it comes
up.......type.....flickrsouthallboard42photostream...comes up ok...43
has sainsbury interior of nostalgia....interior granada cinema elaborate
ceiling etc lights...exotic...theatre pop groups.greenford
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Oct-2011
The cottages opp the Beehive
at the side of these was an old sawmill it was still
working when i was at Dormers but now there is a modern
building in its place.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2011
sawmill thats
interesting.....josie would know...with it being by allemby
rd......photos cottages all by there are good......going over spikes
bridge 1950s seem to remember covered long length sheds.on west
side....long planks wood piled high....by canal edge.....also hayes
bridge davis and victoria sawmills.......old map shows sluice up
there..swing bridge up to 1935 spikes bridge............and further
along weir..by allotments bankside towards gas works..........modern
photo coots nesting there...glad if you are getting flickr photos hope
so... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Oct-2011
I think the G.W.R had big rail sleeper depot. at the canal nr Bankside towards the gasworks
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2011
some lovely photos bankside on
board..kates gran dot lived mum dad tom eliz harrison
ruth...1947..allotments end he had chiickens down there..photo map of
gas works..now seems huge carpk..weir at canal there coots
nesting...planes on photo board of approved redevelop..but now money
wait for..recession.plan to join beaconsfield across canal to hayes
springfield as was many yrs ago intended.......may
be long time.wait........1973 2 uncles redundent at gas close....and
wingrove family 3 men worked there 1897 before and after....gas holder
seen for mls all directions..amazing if gone...they call it blue tower
in film made.... ... more >>
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by davo (Member 10030212) on 17-Oct-2011
I have a couple of small videos on my facebook page of southall in the late 1960's taken by my father .
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2011
thanks davo..will try find..facebook southall.....thanks
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Oct-2011
Just been wading through
Southallboard45, and although there are lots of nice photos, the ones
that stand out for me are those that I remembered exactly as they were
when I was young.
The first one must be the 607 Trolley bus to Shepherd's Bush having just
passed Ealing Town Hall with its clock and tall spire. Memories of EMI
dances at the Town Hall, with the Forum just across the wsy, and working
opposite J.Lyons in Ealing Broadway in the forties, with the photo of
Bentalls - that wonderful Department store on its corner. The photo of
the Northcote Arms was a sad sight to see, now boarded up, unlike the
pub it was in its heyday. Also, Butlers corner, unrecognisable from the
store I once knew. A lovely painting of the Iron Bridge of years ago,
with the AEC proudly being advertised across the bridge and the traffic
passing underneath as we once walked and cycled and passed underneath in
buses. Then there is the Millpond just before you crossed the Greenford
road where all the kids skated on it when it was frozen hard, and the
boys fished in it with their rods and nets. What lovely memories of a
lovely Southall and Ealing we all once knew. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2011
glad joy..the interior tesco
sainsbury old stores counters greenford..aec gt picture comic 3 bridges
routes for lyons..yes several 50s buses there.....bentalls used to go in
1970 when lived there...dusty worked there 1960 she went ealingcatholic
school mary obrien..the priest has fled italy etc.now.wanted for 20 yrs
abuse there..dusty nice grave front door henly church hse lived
there.....northcot
another photo onboards...cant get 2 precious films of davos dad
yet...tony says try facebook ask them if type in their search...tried
google all ways not get it.....oldfield lane you walked .photo1940s one
of bridge pub old road was there....cowgate,,greenford rd stall..mansell
mornington rds there...high st...the stall.....photo s davis corner
shop 1939 if anybody heard of it greenford what sold or.... ... more >>
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by davo (Member 10030212) on 18-Oct-2011
Just re read my post Yvonne and
if sounded wrong . What i ment to say was that on My Facebook page
there are 2 videos of Southall
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Oct-2011
Yvonne - the shop S.Davis on a
corner in Greenford high street has a sign "Gowns" and in the window
there are lots of hats, and I think there is a model wearing a coat and a
hat. This is all with the aid of my handy magnifying glass!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2011
thanks pauline gowns will have
look with my magnify glass and will look mail sunday...thanks davo will
try see your dads 2 videos.if find...jean..most people moved
southall..60s 70 s80s...a few still local....
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2011
thanks pauline..it takes so much
time research etc..dont get time sit back and have nice look till much
later...yes full screen magnify..gowns..hats....my good guess is 1939
top windmill lane opposite corner to where open glass covered roof mkt
was....so west side corner...little windows up along and going round
into windmill lane..1950s when I first was down there .corner shop was
the oldest quaint corner
it had tobacco and little fancy ornaments in window pipes etc....yes
jean mail photo..says 20/30 yrs approx increase in it all...against
law..but....so many large towns midlands and over country have problems
also..as europe etc.....london still many most wonderful parts ..off to
wiz oz group us low price top quality seats..crawford saw near at
majesties when 1st created phantom..tv girl of dorothy gt...gt sets
costumes palladium refurbish webber is so beautiful inside...100 yrs
chew gum today wrigley etc...nice comment on booard46 photo granada bond
mini car mortorbike engine.he went in penny pomegranate from famous the
stall..greeford rd ... more >>
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by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 18-Oct-2011
Davo, How do we access your facebook page? I would love to see the video's. Thank you.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2011
yes have tried all facebook ideas
to find davo....but cannot.....seems oldfacesouthall gone.after quite
few yrs of good use......used to be nice to read .in google....some nice
friends chatted interesting.threads etc....expect they are diappointed
.it is shame
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2011
SEEMS planes went over
1947..perhaps take photos for maps....only shot of prefabs found...we
were there 1947 to 1960s ......then 1970 to 1989....13 8th parade.to
right top square white shape regimented..rows rows huts prefabs...little
garden out back.mattingley behind us..was it greaves in front...right
by path to bunny pk...photos on board46.prefabs.golflinks...long
greenford rd lady marg rd white....etc etcphotos there all yrs all sorts.... ... more >>
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by davo (Member 10030212) on 19-Oct-2011
Contact me at baconandeggs626@hotmail.com
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2011
tv freeview 12 yesterday...going
from strength to strength.....so interesting.........tonight 9pm find my
past.....2nd wwar dunkirk cockleshell heroes...etc
descendents.......speak of ancestor etc........tonight...........bligh
tahiti...fletcher christian...fry...........3 descendents stick up for
their ancestors...trace whole story etc......gt stuff.......also channel
9 free bbc4 daily .....art .crafts....etc...science...social
family history.....music...60s pop history ,,,,our photo granada cinema
greenford 1958 king creole elvis 6.35 start film...3 wheel car
outside....ALSObristol cafe youth club 1960 southall cafe..guitar delta 5
pop....on google..local school......hayes bridge
lived........descendents going in queens gallery buck palace
today...scott antartic exhibition..so much there..wilson speaks of race
or not...etc etc...mews next door splendid exhibits gold coach etc
etc...60 yrs next feb...olympic yr ... more >>
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Barrie Mead
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by penny (Member 10265839) on 2-Oct-2011
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Does anyone know whereabouts of Barrie Mead. Had an older brother
Keith. Both loved football. Went to Southall Grammar 1958 - 1965.
Lived near the recreation ground.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2011
different mead families go long
back in heston northhyde and heston...long ago we had one mead married
in.and member here b raymond had mead connection..barriekeith dont seem
to be friends reunited schools streets etc there..we all knew of bubble
chew gum factory as you have on short page .dennis steve hill etc
said..aeradio on corner ba there 1950s..old orphans barracks..1952
demolished huge stone
soldier war memorial disappeared.all played over the mounds old
gunpowder factory..and gravel pits.you spoke of..of brickmaking
and.1940s50s lorries took off gravel dug out for runways of
heathrow...dad worked heston airport....my aunt went western rd.sch from
the common...penny turner brown grammar 1959 to 63.westermn rd sch1952
friendsreunited site,,veronica creech hounslow st mark sch 120 bus from
southall green1961 to 66..but often see creech name.think on
oldfacesouthallsite..or a facebook.she has....yes we often talk of the
ice cream ...broadway was tonys...rossi you remember of southall
..oldfacesouthall facebook has 1950s 60s people..in google...and 2 sites
facebook for southall grammar google.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Sep-2011
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hot weather..northolt has weather reading daily..monitored it was
hottest in country..british pathe film 1960in google southall rec swim
pool..1st apr season opening..60 degrees but oxo...white rubber hats
white floats..laurie dormer was instructor .his father a
dignitary....still up to olympics swim club bournemouth now...member mr
thompson dolly was there.....mr betts manager there..we went uxbr idge
outdoorpool 1st october one yr hot day......tonight 6.30 archive film
found 50s seaside........bbc2.....phantom 25yrs this weekend albert hall
200 orchestra top soloists..wonderful music of webber..saw twice her
majesties..taken 2.3 billion at box office...costumes wonderful.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Oct-2011
phylis...........................norwood green new photos of the ye olde
cricket match .7ftcricket bat with 2 young people..standing on beer
crate, gone on bords7....17...etc....it says winners.carved.wolf being
the 1st winner aug4..1938 of bat made,,wolfe being the last winner on
bottom of the bat 1960............today from australia library,,,,,,they
have sent photos of southall hospitals...............specialised
amputation with harefield hospital.......................very good of
australia to send...............monstead institute.they used.with
australia nurses given awards.....building later southall community
centre...............................at south rd they used grand large
marylebone house school .west side. which was there for many
decades......1st war australia used it ....................photos will
try squeeze on our photoboards.....several photos old white cottage
bulls bridge of our member and phylis known residents..our boards...etc
etc ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Oct-2011
just found rare photo
..............................never thought would see long length
clarence st houses couple people also in 1930s..space on photoboard 4
when get time............dilys asked for in between yrs photos..she had
seen1900s older ones and more recentphotos....hope she did her
grandchildren the book she was going to...........taken 2 yrs to find
this one...rare 30s 40s 50s,,to find..............nice
from oz this week lots on southall war hospital...at beaconsfield
school to catholic st joseph school south rd...1916 to 1919.demolished
1933...was at trees by kings hall photo.....made walkway 400 yards to
use beaconsfield as well..1000s treated artificial limbs.....on our
photo boards...and more photos cricket team 1960 wolf lamb pubs..and
several of ye olde annual cricket match bat..lamb inn wolf inn
winners...then listed 1938 4 aug.wolf..trophy prize displayed at pub
winner.7ft high..with couple youngsters and team and pub
landlord......photoboards7.17.5.2.39.30.25.29.20.45.36.12.pathe film
free google of opening southallnorwood hospital 1930s..dignitaries
crowds southall..green...... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Oct-2011
Thank you Yvonne for the photo to
me of Heston church Lychgate restored in 1974 by the people of Heston
and our friends in Braunsfeld, Cologne on page 4 of our Southallboard12.
Our wedding was in 1954. It would be interesting to know the connection
of Braunsfeld, Cologne helping with this restoration. I didn't realise
that this ancient Lychgate was circa 1450. That's seen a lot of
weddings, etc.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2011
yes it is one most famous lynch
gates in country....oak...chalfont st giles has nice one..rest of
coffin......our family photos cranford lane heston went down
there..weddings baptisms...large groups at lynch..photographer.......big
trees at side.......lovely rare large entrance car spaces swoop outside
church..they have annual fete in that area,,,...red bus white ribbon in
one photo.there....the church
is so good there...mrs hardy....ann coleman the vicars wife.....many
been there 20 yrs and more.......they have newsletter on google
secretary replies lovely to emails........english heritage helped cost
new oak for lynch....they and church bound to know connection
germany....hounslow council too,,,,,,lovely to find out......ours all
buried there 1800s 1900s...........my cousins were getting married holy
trinity same yrs as you.....they worked southall factories had short
dress..white wed albums,,bridesmaids..saved uo their wage pkts...pretty
curve arch door holy trinity like kates gran 1953 photo........hounslow
heston town like many in country bound to be twinned with
europe.....uxbridge hillingdon are...harefield with australia in village
green sculpture oz and hare yr 2000 unveiled.......1974 lynch if twin
with germany.if they contributed...119 war graves in heston church white
war stones,,,many pilots...heston airport near.......residents
contributed...church warden there..would know....war memorial 1st
2ndwars opposite church ..residents payed and gentry hse down church
ave,,mrs becker or something...... payed and she unveiled it....best
wishes.famous bounty sir joseph banks ..botany of kew gardens with ship
of darwin buried there,,and queen victorias famous nurse.......and last
man to be flogged...of hounslow barracks ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2011
was it not cologne cathedral
badly bombed as our coventry cathedral...war......may be heston vicar
connects..europe churches..reconciliation...church years of connection
with bonding with other churches.....may be something
there,,,,newsletter they travel go trips europe....1450...yes earl
jersey land of osterley house..queen elizabeth favourite wheat .best
bread she said..heston.........by church
cornfield horses tractor.hestonfarm.....1901.age 12/13 nans brothers
worked there ag labs..school next door heston church....married there
age 18..lived opposite kirby tythecottage till thrown out age 70.died
next yr.he had prizes for horse work...1960 wheatlands estate built on
farm.....other brother on memorial died war 1917...wingrove.......so 10
kids siblings of their dad fern lane and norwood green..married at lynch
gate..1860s 1870s......book says vows exchanged in porch outside at
door.labourers....law said proclaim any lawful impediment.village public
out in open.air.....like election or village business done at porch
door...gentry had interior posh pews and alter hymns etc.. they payed
for...... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2011
as wild guess..might even be
heston airport involved.....cologne cathedral bombing........heston
reconnaissance...and..usa and raf and polish planes war from
heston......braunsfeld...2 mls from cologne cathedral.......which was at
the great big wide rhine river..........pick up river at night...as
guide.route.. ...as nazis picked up the thames so easily to come down
bomb london...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2011
with braunsfeld area cologne 2
mls east......google raf war photo....huge photo braunsfeld........25
july sunday night 1943....raf sortie 542D 0865 frame 3144..raf..aerial
photo.....................used in bbc documentary operation
crossbow.......so raf involved there..heston church connection it
seems..........bbc cuts economise but bbc 4 bbc3 digital freeview to
continue said news yesterday...
my poor 1960 tvcentre to
go demolish.famous architecture 0 of studios.white city shepherds
bush....manchester get studios..1966..I walked in their wonderful
place.my library research dept...restaurant studio observe rooms gt
daily see shows etc.....tube from northolt......
bbc came to my school ..did schools many yrs...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2011
in google......partnership
friendship reconciliation...braunsfeld and heston church...translate
click...it is their site.....mike could help us translate.........pity
lots members not see photos...such chat lovely memories they see...cant
wave magic wand for them to see chat photos so nice........anglican
church heston to st clare evangelical church area cologne....1957 to
1995...1974 they helped pay
for heston lynch gate......1450 and tower bells there 1300s.......may
2000 heston visited cologne..and return visit photo
there.......clarenbachgemeinde koln......bet got spell wrong
mike...ha.......my nan of venice cortina alps..said german learnt at
dormers..no sorry said only french,,,,ha...no italian either school
those days...she bought me dictionary at train station 27 hrs home
rail.those days 1961 ha......3rd class or what...wood bench.... corridor
old trains ...ha ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2011
not easy to find all things in
google......but at.type..the lynch gate.mccurdy co ltd.com.......lovely
photos text...answers your memory of gate missing,,,,,yes 1970s..major
repair restore,,but metal bolts not last...mccurdy improved yr
2000,,,,,,,2001 he received english heritage timber award....weight
closing mechanism.,,really is only fine one like that in country...so
lucky....hayes has one but
lots vandal..lead off roof etc read......heston vicar and people so
good at heston church..our poor families of 1800s.vicar buried lots
babies etc there diseases.etc..my cousin in touch today of len goodman
accent.bethnal green so good.family tree.....she in wales now they ask
of her accent heston lived opposite church and her mum kent edge of
london.came work emi and munitions....accents strong.......my uncle and
aunt had..southall..cockney and rural also combined.....google has st
catherine stained glass 1820 special heston church and sir joseph banks
botany of cook australia.vault there.... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Oct-2011
That was really interesting
Yvonne. So now we know the connection with Braunsfeld and also the
restoration by McCurdy & Co.Ltd. It was a lovely photo and write-up.
I also watched Len Goodman last night in "Who do you think you are". It
was fantastic, and he got so excited as he found more and more about
his family tree as it emerged. It was one of the best ones I've seen,
and can still be viewed on "BBC I-Player Len Goodman 6 October 2011" ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2011
yes felt it might be best one so
videoed it...good because needed se again,,to get to grips with
poland,,,,,several have been link polish..1830 so interesting away from
zsar and prussia....my canada southall cousin his wife..dad fled poland
to south france to england 304 sqad raf..took her to the huge polish war
memorial northolt and long list names she saw known surnnames...took
photos back alberta...polish
southall middx....good old len...my aunt uncle west ave southall.had
bit cockney accent and expressions.londoners shepherds bush
influence..dilute today we all go modern schools mungrel tv.cars move
loose any accent...individual..chat strong accents of old times
gone........yes cologne..1950s anglican church uk tried friendship
reconciliation germany and evangelical church near the destroyed cologne
cathedral.1960 pals with heston church...photos google...cologne
flattened..3D glasses photos studied house bucks M14.good
tvprogramme..studied war reconnaisance photos......just sent birds eye
6shots of church and huge trees graves,,,large area to cousin....roads
there her old cottage opposite old george pub.....heston had one hanging
suicide outdoor carsee.bucket....24 yr old labourer 4
kids,,aglabourer.1906.seasonal work poor...lodging in with overcrowded
in laws cranford lane..they put his name in bible buried
heston......west mid hospital site was huge wkhouse to 1920s..huge
graveyard........many babies cranford lane and mums died lists in church
book......1900.......25/30 yr old labourers died broke back etc..babies
left destitute.....tb and killer diseases..ours heston.12 yr old ours
out at work and 8/9 yr olds helping work for pennies,,eldest look after
baby.,,,mums work fields and washing ironing for house up the road... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Oct-2011
we all like street view////but
googlebirdseye is extrememly good........type lynchgate heston
birdseye.......and huge loads mature trees around large church
area,,,,,school expanded there now...huge estates 1966 onwards built
around back church..swimpool library heston park......ancient rose crown
pub heston rd down to norwood green etc...lovely click up down side
side arrows ..travel over ..zoom in...lovely......josie
told us of another which gave aerial over watertower allemby
rd..similar to birdseye in google..zoom in...google earth.satellite ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-Oct-2011
Yvonne-re German spelling-the
city is Köln-the two dots over the o are important-affects
pronunciation. In German, all nouns have a capital letter.
"gemeinde"-means borough/municipality/parish.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Oct-2011
lovely thanks...the heston
cologne site was not uk one....nut lucky looked google the other way
round from german site...and bingo found it....they are proud heston
church link...visit each other...german on google but click
translation..reading...cologne itself linked twin liverpool both so
badly bombed...but heston linked with area district suburb only 2mls
from cathedral and river rhine there......you
saw lynch gate when worked farm there by 120 busstop.....I was there to
1971 but never saw lynch go for repair 1974.......heston
splendid.lynch.....stoke poges has one......but they are drab looking
around country........italian my favourite..dont like german or french
for that matter but 4 yrs french at dormers good grounding..start point
roots of continental language...had very old large thick german
dictionary at my library...huge stock clear out....it was of very old
german text dictionary...teachers said get rid of it........of course
nan and cousins generation s ,back,dolomites alps cortia
dampezzo.....spoke german italian.....married only next town down the
moutains male......best wishes ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Oct-2011
heston connection germany..says3
june 1932.amelia earhart puss moth plane with gordon
selfridges.heston.he lived norwood green .of famous family..lunch heston
then flew to brooklands..30 sept 1938lockheed munich to heston
chamberlain peace in our time waved paper heston...ba and imperial
airways joined 1939 to be boac...u.s. forces went into cologne march
1945 even though bombed to ground took 4 days
to take...freeview 12 monday dday to berlin tv.....freeview monday
.channel 10...ron cox...griff jones presenter comedian hour tour
sydney.....tony says 1989 berlin wall came down east west merge...part
wall stands upright outside imperial war museum london their graffiti on
it.....119 white war grave stones heston.....says largest church
graveyard in country...19000 burials in just one period time...but goes
back 1400s etc......1850 onwards my family cranford lane and
northhyde..all yrs heston church...... ... more >>
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 27-Oct-2011
Just going of track abit...Southall last night was like being in BEIRUT..Fireworks going off the size of bombs.regards Josie.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2011
diwali....think josie...festival
of light........yes lots fireworks...best wishes.........5 nov penny for
guy.yrs of kids fun..sparklers wav catherine wheel.bangers ..high sky
rockets.hot potatoe toffee apple bon fire..tesco seem to sell boxes for
weeks now.......kep pets in hedgehog out of high bonfire
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 6-Nov-2011
Little Cafe top of Southall Bridge opposite Southall Station has gone..photo's of it on Boards...regards Josie.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2011
oh yes thanks josie....greenford
old mkt behind bus..on board 44 and board 47@yahoo.com..went in there
1954/55 liitle toy section.....length walk back to prefabs..found half
crown under hedge...little row hedges always down the windmillold lane
at footpath.......little cafe yes we have in on recent board ....rectory
pk had good fireworks.guy fawkes..not now.......wiseman built right out
onto pavement
now,,huge.....crane there......photo boards up white hart pub...old
stone mason there 4 shops cemetery...greenford dump refuse place... ... more >>
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 9-Nov-2011
Hello Pauline, you are right Kebab shop is still
there...i must have been having a BLONDE MOMENT.
cannot beleive i did not see it, was sitting in
the traffic as there was Celebrations going on,
Food and soft drinks distributed to everyone
along South Rd..cooking being done in Marquees.
Regards Josie.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Nov-2011
JOSIE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,my goodness
such celebrations......best wishes to you ..take care....have put photo
kebab on photos now.....emi hayes loads changes blyth rd,,,,,,our
relations emi...got gt records 60s.........boards 46/47/48.......should
be nice photos all interesting local things..............thanks.for
all...11 nov 1974 crowd at cenotaph southall photo on board..chamber
commerce woman.......lots on greenford all yrs...photos......etc....1958 king creole granada cinema ... more >>
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Couch Family
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by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 22-Sep-2011
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Yes, Len. Ray certainly worked at Price`s, as did my brother John.
Sadly, Ray died earlier this year and Doug died on 22nd June. I lost
John and Barry this year. There is only me left. I am afraid your name
does not register with me, but I went to Dormers Wells with Norman
Goddard.
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 22-Sep-2011
I am sad to hear that my wife died this year also our son died where do you live now Roy?
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by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 22-Sep-2011
My wife and I now live just
outside Luton, and without a car, I have no chance of going back to
Southall to visit the old hunting grounds. Sorry to hear about the wife,
but time is catching up with all of us. I am now aged 82.
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 22-Sep-2011
Sitting here thinking it was
John's wedding I went to did his wife come from Clarence St. knew the
Sayers and Micklewright's they all worked at Price's Fred died recently.
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 22-Sep-2011
You are not missing much in
Southall it's not the town we knew sixteen pubs closed including the
Legion I went to Dormers where about in Southall did you live Roy I
lived in Abbotts Rd. when I was single I am 86 I count myself lucky to
get this far.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2011
best wishes your 86,,len...as you
and your friend knew aunt doll at school.....yes she was born your
year,,,july 27 1925....last one of 7 babies....at the common by
canal.....1925 old 1800 yr labourers dwellings there 2/6 week rent by
old oak pub........cluster one tap in middle yard.........pulled down
modern flats square area there now by rec..........she was 3 when new
west ave built...dad was builder...they
all moved in 16 west ave neighbours elsie bob cornell..and boylan....so
doll must be 1927 ..age5 ..going through alleys to tudor....her nephew
charlie ackers followed her 1955...last one to....doll married holy
trinity 1952 after he came home from army eygpt with malaria...lived
flat wembley... then twins and girl made like triplets moved back into
into 16 westave.with me......5 yrs wait got house garden north
ave...........worked all her life.........tales you could all tell of
dormers and tudor.....she did all the shopping for them with ration
books down broadway war yrs..... ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 22-Sep-2011
Roy-Norman Goddard-there's a name from the past.
Artistic chap.lived in Burns Avenue. His dad Toby was a bus driver. Memories!
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by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 23-Sep-2011
Yes, Fred. Brother John did in
fact marry Peg Micklewright, and I must have met you at their wedding. I
lived at 9 North Avenue from 1930 to my marriage in 1955. Ah, memories !
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Sep-2011
micklewright lady is on gazette
photo lives clarence st now.roayal wedding day photo.was at street party
for kate middleton marriage her families of southall....micklewright
spoke of southall family long time southall....on google and in the
press...think they are on old face southall facebook site
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 23-Sep-2011
It's all coming back now did you
know the Drinkwater's the Goodalls in North Ave. also a girl called
Leila Lawrence one of the Couch family use to use the Working Men's Club
one of the Micklewright girls lives in Hanwell she is on Facebook
thanks Roy for all the memories.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Sep-2011
beverley owen micklewright..on
street wedding photo told camera...been clarence since 1955.......royal
wedding day photo board31 page 2...and in google...robin boultwood local
spoke and kevin barrett caretaker feathers school of kates mum..
charles christy 40 yrs there..spoke...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Sep-2011
fred micklewight in google wife
irene..alan chris jeanette..he was borm southall..loct 1927..sadly
passed away 25 july 2010.age82
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Sep-2011
roy.......you are on
facebook...if you put your 1920s 30s southall photos there we can see in
google......or facebook ..old face.southall..photos go
there....micklewright say clan....jean stan southall...siblings alb fred
edna eddie peggy vimmy queenie ..in google of southall.....fred wife
alan 2011 still southall...christine bev..30 clarence
st......clive......board photos 12,,,,,,,used ticket item
platform trolley bus...acton every year good open day lots there buses
etc see...of nostalgia.....etc 30 photos to recent chat on board12.,,,, ... more >>
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by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 24-Sep-2011
Yes Fred, the Lawrences lived at
No 1, and the Drinkwaters at No 2. I have a copy of the census for
around the 1940`s (?), for North Avenue and the surrounding streets.Can I
be of any help to anybody?
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 24-Sep-2011
Roy I am still in contact with
Eileen Goodall do you remember the Spring family I actually spoke to Len
Spring after 70 years Reg was a boxer I would like to know if Lelia
Lawrence is still about did you know Sylvia Giles thanks again Len
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by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 25-Sep-2011
Sorry, Len. The names Spring and
Giles do not register with me,but I certainly remember Leila Lawrence
and Eileen Goodall. Good hunting !
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2011
to see your photos roy perhaps
have to fill form in at facebook....in google...just you name type and
up comes photo you and dormers..facebook..but not see your
photos.......pathe news film...google type.entry of the gladiators good
close up faces at southall 1936 10000 crowd....watford southall 3rd
round fa cup...good photography of crowd faces etc,,,,..western rd
couple photos times gone by board45 ....20...12 .39.etc.southall green.....high st ..broadway etc..schools.... ... more >>
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by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 5-Oct-2011
Roy, Does your copy of the census include Alexander Avenue?
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2011
best wishes dilys will try
squeeze photos on board45..street view bright sun july 2008/5 allendale
60.ackland my relatives..one of the newer little buses now
E5.alendale....all go greenford way..seems allendale..like many little
roads have new Ebuses.. bet you did not have bus up there yrs
ago...street view all parade shops and post box outside what was
postoffice sweet shop of dormers kids opposite
...beehive pub on records back to 1850..cattle farms up there down to
high st mkt.......ruislip rd there to lido on bus....beach money
reburbish yr ago..extremely nice..train kept gloriously...steam little
carriages polished brass engine.hooter..3 station halts £2 trip...half
size to festinog wales..longest 12inch guage in country...round
reservoir..woods oaks..1928 photo row boats....tea icecream now
restaurant pub...ducks swans gulls cormorants on islands in middle...no
ski now...americans of west ruislip uxbridge bases lived south ruislip
housing complex...long road from back lido..so went often 1950s...the
painting on beach cafe wall.......victorian of 1st train...as york
museum...painting tall narrow tube chimney steam train...2 dogs at rail
side excited with crowds victorian 1830s costume outfits..... ... more >>
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by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 13-Oct-2011
Yes Yvonne, the E5 bus was up and
running before we left Allendale Avenue in 1991.Had probably been
running for about a year.Our road didn't seem the same after that.Not
quite right to have a bus route there but handy at times.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Oct-2011
oh thats lovely dilys...yes lots e
buses started then go all little rds.yes 1991.....e7 started at last a
route to ruislip.....1975 14 yrs extremely bad...52 weeks of the yr
would not go.nothing could be done about it......privatised and now
little buses go gt.ruislip e7..over 10yrs now.excellent.......e routes
handy but problem for hses...saw it on street view...took photos ...on
boards 44/5........46 at
weekend mentions all things everybody has remembered...think everybody
will see things they have chatted of...10 members have mentioned things
so very fondly...found photos will put on at
weekend..nostalgia......best wishes..and your lovely beach.....indian
summer been extra bonus week warm for some of us..grateful lovely... ... more >>
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by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 17-Dec-2011
I have a number of old
photographs of Southall going back to around 1900. If only I knew how to
post them onto the Knowhere site !!
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by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 22-Sep-2011
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To Len Goddard. I have cousins Ray, Doug and Terry, who lived in Clarence Street. Did you know them ?
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 22-Sep-2011
Hello Roy I worked with Ray at
Price's bakers did he live in Ealing at one time went to one their
wedding at the British Legion are they still around? I live in Hayes now
after moving from Southall.
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 25-Sep-2011
Roy, there were couch's next door but one to us in Queens Rd.
Johnnie and Rene Couch. Mr Couch used to take bets for the horse races back before the betting shops.
Always a big day on Derby Day and the Grand National.
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by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 27-Sep-2011
Hello, John W. I had an uncle who
was a bookmaker, known as Jack. I assume that he was the bookie that
you were referring to. I have posted on facebook an old photo of
Southall Athletic Football Club from the season 1921-1922. My father is
in the front row.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2011
have tried all different ways in
google to find photos roy..cant..saw your facebook..photo of you says
dormers wells school.,,best wish john w..hope you wife enjoyed annivers
visit uk..yorkshire favourite....pauline everybody in
google....video..view UB2......1958 and back through yrs..abbot printers
high st made...no.w.here with greenford high sch..put on google...dee
ferrishaigh our member your dad
mayor........30 mins..carnival..close up queen princesses..deep crowds
both sdes at butlers store...nurses float.ladies
leisure..swimmers..dancers..scots ...brass bands..all shops views
history southall.......etherington...tall narrow chimney behind white
hart pub.....so much there......george twyman dormers wells many yrs
local history society..put his couple yrs ago inside manor hse film
there ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Sep-2011
What a wonderful piece of old film
"Video view UB2 1958". I will have to watch it all over again as there's
such vintage material of Southall there. Thanks Yvonne.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2011
yes need to watch few times so
much there...only photo have seen of odeon uxb rd..with film poster
outside .steps up actually cinema then looks like1936...abbot charles
pryce.1893 to 1972.frps..was newspaper printers southallhigh st and
father before him......commentary excellent refers to several photos we
have on our boards..illustrated london news his father helped fire boyd
southall park....one
google did not have commentery...make sure get talking one...forum
cinema....carnival..red cross..st john ambulance..dormers pioneers
1958..crowds pk..some of you faces may be there....that dance we have
photo of on lorry american shirts...flower huge dancer made
90s...british legion.flags there.banners..coming along broadway to
pk....gas lorry float...lady from belgium lifetime southall made queens
dress..cloak.animal heads waving streamer sticks............leggett
begin southall hamlet on coaching rd oxford..became butlers store
corner...horsebus to hounslow..other film speaking by george twyman
local hist soc..southall manor oldest is fireplace timbers
1301....outside wall two cornice statues white hindu gods.left wrist
bands of friendship...yr 1100 from india.. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Sep-2011
Strange you should mention John
W. and his visit to Yorkshire. I was there last weekend with my family
as the final celebration of my 80th birthday. A must was to visit York
Railway Museum again. There is so much to see there, but a few things
stood out for me. On entering the Grand Hall, there are the original
entrance gates from Euston station. They are magnificent and there is a
lovely photo of them on
google in flicker with their brass petals. Then we all boarded the
Japanese "Bullet" train - Shinkansen and seated in the luxurious seats
inside and waved to tourists outside the soundproof windows.
A replica of "Stephenson's rocket" was also one of my favourites with
its tall black chimney in four sections. 50 locomotives were built
1803-1829 at 4/6 miles an hour! All the train buffs were busy
photographing "The Mallard" and the young boys were all wanting to climb
on the footplate of this magnificent locomotive. The crowning bit for
me was when a large locomotive was turned round on the huge Turntable.
Last time I saw it, it was a small turntable, but this was magical, and
all the kids got very excited. I wished it would turn again, but sadly
it only does one turn. What a glorious outing, and I am sure it won't be
the last. One mention is that although there is no entrance fee, the
car park is £9, but well worth it. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Sep-2011
what lovely description you have
descriptive way of writing like your brother..york couple visits,,so
much..shame did not not do rail...must do next time..tv has shown us so
well...dear stevenson/ brunel..and gods wonderful railway 1837 the great
viaduct we have queen victoria liked the view..bunny pk brent
fields..so had train stop..southall rail society museum......bullet
train british inventor spoke
on tv,,sold to japan.....but they keep talking of ideas to use
since...marion at austin capital texas photos seems type rail similar
there.....so thats where euston went...we were british library by
elabourate new st pancras hotel opened now..huge victorian architecture
amazing .great by kings cross station....modern glass euston railway
station.down the road bus took us.. like airport glass front
plain..modern concourse........glad children loved all as you did..happy
80th...dame shirley basseys mother came from yorkshire 1920s 2 children
there.fled to cardiff.7/8 babies born there..such hard life and lives
then...good actress tv... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Sep-2011
One thing I forgot to mention was
that I walked, after much persuasion from my youngest daughter,
underneath the whole length of an engine, hoping that no stray drop of
oil would drip on me! Also, there was a whole locomotive cut in half on
display. The one thing which was most apparent on entering the Museum
was the lovely smell of engine oil and grease, and all those things
associated with the railway of old! It was wonderful. That wssn't there the last time I went. ... more >>
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by John W (Member 10082501) on 30-Sep-2011
Yvonne, Had a great time in the UK, Yorkshire mainly.
A week in Paris and then the Eurostar to St Pancras, Lunch at the
Betjeman Arms, St Pancras Station. Wish I had more time at St Pancras as
my family were originally from that area, having recently dicovered
online where the family had lived in that area. My Dad's father moved to
Southall in the early 1900's. My father was the only one of six children born in Southall.
Pauline I did get a chance to go the the York railway museum, the
Malard wasn't there when I visited, but the GWR George V was, and I must
have seen it many times steaming through Southall back in my train
spotting days.
Steam must have been in my blood as my mothers father was an engine
driver for LNER, driving many of that lines iconic engines out of Kings
Cross.
As fast as todays trains are, they don't match the old trains as far as
travel experience. The grand old Pullmans and Cornish Riviera Express,
being served Dinner in the dinning car, and coffee in those silver coffee pots.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2011
gt you did train to paris..as
your links..mine yes southall northhyde..dad was one of 7 babies nan
had,,,southall....1806 1850 both sides my families from area.....st
pancras..my husband and I were there easter.....wonderful work done to
restore listed english heritage building.restaurant hotel.splendid and
amazing new british library next door...kings cross station.old my hull
yorkshire cousin came in
there regulairly 1950s.her dad railways so cheap ticket...planes to do
lots to old kings cross area.....farringdon rd goes south there goes
down to london greater and london record office ..lots on pancras
etc...huge archive ..lma....photos record books church book.s....so good
to hear from you and wife best wishes...my southall cousin and wife
came from alberta easter went midlands of her and up to scotland durham
university where he went..they love our cathedrals..york minster
beverley wonderful....they went west coast late 1960s..2 university
grown up children...she works google san francisco,,,,,he comes every
year drives archive offices done geneology to 1600s....southall the
famous rail society history gwr...with swindon ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2011
put your surname in google with
southall middx.........see family tree work.w family line.....louisa w
born southall....1900s and before.with hounslow barracks fuselliers
brought many in...your surname there..heston and hounslow living all
census dates....my one came into hounslow barracks from army india
married local girl and stayed.......we went paris...perfect visit saw so
much..tube great and
hot till midnight to get to arc de triumph..saw all our days
beautiful...........our abbott special archive film 1958 going back to
1900..famous leggett vet and farriar smithy corner before
butlers1905..his daughter was born kansas usa.was his shorhand
typist..but wife kids born southallnorwood.there...find my past ancestry
have to 1911 census,,,,john.....electoral roll southall at ealing
library....school registers..rolls there...think you said queens rd
area..1909 onwards kate family goldsmith chandler white.........there at
clarence dudley spencer and hartington rds.....harrison gran dot.side
from durham at bankside by canal 1947.. ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Oct-2011
Hi John W. Glad you were able to
visit the York Railway Museum. I'm pretty sure I saw the GWR George V,
but when I have just looked up on the net to see a picture of it, there
apparently was a large bell on the front of the engine and a plaque,
presented by the Baltimore & Ohio Railway Co. when it was shipped to
them for inclusion in their centenary celebrations. I can't remember
seeing this, but there
were so many to see. I also noticed on some of the photos of this
magnificent locomotive that there was the caption "Cornish Riviera
Express 6000" on it, but not on all of them? We also had a quick peek at
several stationary steam engines out in the open at the Museum, with
all the drivers inside with the steam belting out of all of the engines.
Didn't have long enough to have a really good look at them as my family
had to get on the road, ready for work the next day. It's quite true
what you say about the old trains being far superior in travel
experience though. One thing which has pleased me however, is that my
family have promised to go back to York probably in the Spring. Maybe
we'll travel by train this time! Congratulations on you and your wife's
50th Anniversary. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2011
happy visit york spring sounds
wonderful.....john w ..just realised you were at southall tech just
about same time as my cousin john west ave...willans.1950 though.did
engineering and they put him to bp...oil tankers..became their youngest
chief..loads exams yrs hull,,,then aden durban..etc the world home to
southall after 6mth trips.supertankers terrible responsiblity stress
worry,,..he did not do
national service..his southall cousin allan did...my southall teachers
son barraclough senior at boeing..married at tall spire church ealing
then california..los angeles then sanfrancisco..son hugh at
ibm..there....southall cousin lives alberta daughter works google
sanfrancisco took my cousin to alcatras tourist visit...etc..small world ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2011
john meant to say find my past
free index 1911 census...southall...w family..ada ann doris glad alf
alice flo jane john nellie philis queenie....1911 heston w family..your
name caroline ellen joseph collin queenie tom...born 1880s to 1911
births....similar to mine heston southall spread early yrs....and you
grew up at the mounds as mine did at the common..all spoke of playing
over the mounds...1914.to 1928..then after ... more >>
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marion humphreys asking of parents humphreys .wren ave by canal
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2011
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you are so excited have fogotten put their christian names...yes
picture prints frame factory...some of them are on google normill with a
number on the back southall.......was in famous london exhibition
1927.......tell frank lamb still open last heard...wolf open with garden
does football flags outside..tv.....let us know if you cant get friends
reunited...........we are all same no computers of life
till recently.....it is easy here after little while.........so new
thread click......email .type in ..then later comes up automatically so
does password...click log in......good luck to remember 3 of you what
school..helps.........lovely to have you great that you were there till
1974......we were many of us......... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2011
woops ....looking for those who
knew ODONNELL family meant to say.......typing and watching home movies
tv,,at same time..not used to keyboards computers
etc...ha.....,,,,,,1977 silver jubillee....roads southall parties...any
memories.........clarence st had kates family home wedding party for her
and wills........
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 21-Sep-2011
Definately not computer wise here
my family name is Mc Donnell - I have a brother Frank and a sister
Sheila. I think my brother was friends with Freddie Gough name seems to
ring a bell am going to try to post another with right subject line.
ty so much for all your help.
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 21-Sep-2011
We used to go to St Anslems on King Street, then to Our Lady and St Anslems in Hayes.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2011
you may know freddie think he was
st anselm.......too tired evenings.been busy day.....saw mc after
typed..but tired......then cant go back and rub out....they are all on
friends reunited site.......glad you are pleased.....
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2011
the other site that knows people
is ...are you old face southall..facebook in google.......guess of mine
that st anselm from surname.McDONNELL.southall green...yes also
hayes...picture prints framing is famous of haigh..there many yrs....
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 21-Sep-2011
Hi Marion
What class were your brother & sister in? Was it Mr. McGrath's or
Mr. Watson's? I'm usually pretty good on names & I think I sort of
remember the name Sheila McDonnell but Frank is a mystery to me.
Certainly it would have had to have been a St A's because I went on to
Southall Grammar & did not got to the Hayes school. If you look me
up on friendsreunited & send me a message I'll give you
my email. I've previously done an Excel spreadsheet of our (Mr.
McGrath's) class showing everyone I can remember & where they sat
& through friendsreunited added to it from the memories of others,
I'll send that spreadsheet to you once I get your email. Did John
Fedorow live in Hammond Rd? If so I think I remember him. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2011
You probably have not noticed
photo reunited st anselm infants 1978 ....anthony mcdonnell..... if it
helps....have been reading southall green because my family started
there 1806 only 33 residents.. 4 farms...and 1891 there opposite at
waltham rd...barn area given over to start st anselm church school..the
manor hse and pond gardens huge money spent on it at moment......my
husband and where we married
was from catholic at feltham school.with cousins..was good
school...myself librarian 32 yrs C of E school and 6th form.middx.were
lucky excellent school.annual highest ofsted.....they do well..as all
types school do with curriculem today.....norwood green photos on our
board new school 2010 in old horticultural college famous listed
building of yr 1700s.preserved..... ... more >>
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 22-Sep-2011
My children went to St Anselms
Martin and John Mr Moore was the Headmaster I remember Mr Watson he use
to wear a beret I also remember a Nun was killed in her car.
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 22-Sep-2011
I remember Mr Moore too he was
the headmaster at St anslems then Mr Hughes at Our Lady and St Anslems
omg I can still see that teacher in his beret.
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 22-Sep-2011
I was in St Anslem's in 1968 so guess I am older I am now 56 I do remember some of the names just trying to get in touch
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 22-Sep-2011
I was in St Anslem's in 1968 so guess I am older I am now 56 I do remember some of the names just trying to get in touch
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 22-Sep-2011
lol - not computer literate so keep on posting the same message forgive me
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 22-Sep-2011
Then we had Mr Tranner
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 22-Sep-2011
My Mom stayed in southall untill her death in 2005, that was the first time I had been back there. So much had changed.
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 22-Sep-2011
Yvonne I was born in 1955 so not
sure if you can look me up ty so much for all your help..I would love to
be in touch with you. Marion
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 22-Sep-2011
omg I feel so old now.
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 22-Sep-2011
Fred Gouch - I am not registered
with friends re-united now, I just seem to remember your name. We all
lived in Wren Avenue and went to school at Our Lady and St Anselms in
Hayes. Do you remember Reggie and Ruth Short who had the sweetie
store??
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2011
dear marion humphreys
McDONNELL....yes 2005 much changed...but dormers school over 30 million
new school being built opens may 2013..got swim pool sports covered
centre etc now.....what were your parents christian names.....if you put
yourself on friends reunited you can do private emails to the 3
chaps........tonight do you want me to put sentence to the 2 at
wren.,,,to say see your memory on southallknowhere
site..........your email is ok ..it is only on the short one page part
of this...not many people go to it........nobody sees there....so email
should be ok.......click southall in mauve at top of this page and you
will see it........many people have spoken of sweet shop king st on
pages back..........my cousins born 1955 southall.they went to north rd
and dormers....myself few yrs older.........are you far away gone
abroad....good luck...my husbands mum family mcelroy mcgregor catholic
glasgow...so thought st anselm school...anthony 1978 thought might be
your brothers boy.....on st anselm school southall infants ... more >>
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 22-Sep-2011
I am now 56 - I do not see the
purple in order for me to respond, would love to chat with you and
rememeber all things southall of my youth.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2011
they dont reply much or take long
time...........top page word southall in purple click takes you to a
short one page.you are there.......tonight can send sentence to your 2
wren ave friendsreunited site to say you are here to correspond ...or do
you want me to give them your email....you perhaps do not or might like
to..
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Sep-2011
Dear Marion
To give you an idea of whether I was actually at St A's with your
brother or sister, I was there from 1954 till 1961. Yes I remember Mr.
Trainor he was a real character.
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Sep-2011
Dear Marion
To give you an idea of whether I was actually at St A's with your
brother or sister, I was there from 1954 till 1961. Yes I remember Mr.
Trainor he was a real character.
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 22-Sep-2011
Dear Fred Gough,Just for the
record, Franks surname is spelt Treanor, remember his bad
breath.Brilliant artist.Remember his first day, at St A.
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Sep-2011
Dear Bob
Thanks for the tip on correct spelling of Mr. Treanor. On one of my many
trips back to UK, I met up with Mr. McGrath (I'd say it was about 1984)
and we were talking about Mr. Treanor & how eccentric he was and he
told me that Mr. Treanor decided he wanted to learn how to drive &
Mr. Moore was enlisted to help him, anyway they were going along towards
a roundabout and Frank said "what shall
I do" & Mr. Moore said "just go right through it" and that's
exactly what he did, drove right through the middle! A very literal man
our Frank. He did teach us a lot of sea shanties though inc Bonny Bobby
Shaftoe & Hurrah for the Arethusa (or hurrah for the dustbin user. ... more >>
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 23-Sep-2011
ty all for your responses - I am
going to register on friends reunited - I was at St Anslems from 1961
-1966. I found myself humming along today to Bobby Shaffer song, so many
memories came flooding back.
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by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 26-Sep-2011
Marion I have seen this school mentioned many times and decided to ask where it was situated?
I shall look you up on Friends Reunited in the next day or so.
RON
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Sep-2011
st anselm hayes..ron...springwell
rd..west of the canal...off uxbridge rd...south side...left after hayes
bridge...secondary school.....opposite delemere brookside
roads...across the canal from beaconsfield rd
direction............primary school st anselm..southall green with
catholic church...south south of manor hse southall green....opened
there when manor house gave it part of brn side building.......
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Sep-2011
springfield rd meant,,big sikh
primary next to it now..minet park fields..had the wilsons greeting
cards factory down there...,,part of my family came from springwell rd
heston......on frith photos memories southall..patricia shakespeare went
there..and also southall anselm primary..worked aec..then quaker
oats..walked canal havelock in lunchbreak....pat of osterley pk rd...3
tuns pub library fish chip shop corner...southall green...................... ... more >>
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by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 26-Sep-2011
Thank you Yvonne. Looked up St Anslems on F-United ,not there so punched up Marion`s name and had success. Regards Ron
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 27-Sep-2011
By the way Ron the last time I looked the primary school St. Anselms was there on FRU.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2011
see your point ron......capital
letters across says no school found...but arrow scroll under...and says
spelling try these and they are there......our lady st anselms..with s
on end etc...kind photos southallgreen one.....photos of springfield rd
.jeff winter 1967 to 72 wonder if related to our southall mkt man....you
remember..opposite delemere.brookside.ron...long rd springfield going
south....behind the area
of waggon horses pub ..sadly demolished last few yrs.....over hayes
bridge...you being our corner of southall up there......bet you went to
oz over 40 yrs ago..wonderful to have memory far back.......1906 st
anselm ..by mr meads on our boards 12/2/and others.....north rd
school.from mr meads 1904,photo there,,when his siblings went
there........from his next door cottage 1 grove terrace,,,,,,,,by grove
house photos on boards......gas redo...when money....plans on our
boards...huge area develop...and beaconsfield bridge across to
springfield..so the 2 catholic schools nearer at last....1800s new canal
they always wanted bridge there but did not get... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2011
the southall primary
school..comes up if just put st anselms.otherwise says no
school......secondary hayes seems needs put our lady and st
anselms......eddie franck of 1931 .his family on our short single page
here...he remembers big guns by war memorial.....keep of grass signs
manor hse garden...birds aviary,,,,,,,he remembers funeral of father
buckle....old photo st anselm with father buckle in doorway
our boards.12/2..sheila haxton mcdonnelly there 1968...greenline bus
good photo there.......reunion hayes st anselm wants 2012.... ... more >>
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by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 27-Sep-2011
Yes yvonne over 40yrs ,celebrated 60 yrs last June. In all 7 of the family came out and now total 52, spead out all over Aus.
Regards Ron
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2011
thats lovely ron....54 yrs my
cousin left front door west ave ..sunday goodbye visit to us and
nan..think they went monday.1957ish..age early 20s..I went out 1970
month to see her sydney.......in google...type.....video view from
UB2...................sound commentary...1958 carnival hot day deep
crowds opposite butlers store..from west going to southall
park.....going back in time southall photos
films..30mins..done by newspaper printers high st c p
abbott..frps....fellow of photographic society his dad 1880 1890s was
famous beekeeper fairlawn..brothers one at shrubbery....fairlawn hall
became conservative club by town hall had my 21st there....post office
big dial float..sewer to mogden giant pipe float..1958 square dance
float of southall community centre....gingham frocks white socks...sun
hats..waving hankies...park deckchairs sit at stage.council officials
posh hats.mayor goldchain..best wishes to family ron from middx..indian
summer here week often get to october ..pushes up from africa and gulf
stream ... more >>
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 28-Sep-2011
St Anselms school in the Green ,
Southall. was secondary modern up till 1954 when I left, there was 53
pupils, boys and girls in my final year, cant imagine that being allowed
today.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2011
thats interesting rare piece info
bob.thanks.old photo old st anselm on board20 father buckle google
member who was at funeral....1956 new springfield rd st anselm hayes
secondery.changed name to walsingham.35yrs catholic.....nice member
remembered smell of rubber tiles entrance hall..even after new guru
nanak sikh1991 there now,,,my husband baptised botwell modern church
catholic...seems borough hillingdon
cath secondery ickenham duay martyrs..borough ealing wiseman at
greenford...30 million spending enlarge dormers now and more also to
wiseman greenford rd catholic....cousins of my husband went to
gunnesbury catholic..around time and after war..ok solicitor other
surveyer,,,new photos board45@yahoo.co.uk.carnival mr harold halliett
helped community centre .of.huge flower gay 90s oldtyme dancer 1958
float......1st prefab may 1946 was mr mrs l fuller.on snells farm
built.....mill pond canal froze 1947 skating... ... more >>
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 29-Sep-2011
Thank you all for messages about
StAnslems, I have found myself day dreaming about my time spent there, I
have not lived in the UK for a long time, so it is really great to have
this site and such lovely people here. Have a great day, Ron Cox to my
knowledge I am not registered on Friends Reunited I was perhaps 5 yrs
ago. I need to pay my subscription lol.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2011
marion it is free ..friends
reunited.....think saw sheila mcdonnell there 1968 hayes st anselm..hot
here..bonus.summer.....how far away are you,,,we have members around
world here..so nice.....best wishes to you
- Re: marion humphreys asking of parents humphreys .wren ave by canal
by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 29-Sep-2011
Yvonne - I did not know Friends Reunited was free ty for that info. I moved to Austin Texas many years ago.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2011
yes free..good luck...southall
green to texas how amazing...my husbands cousin was mexico texas
border.many yrs ago for 10 yrs then back home.now......and my dad had a
link to family member went out that way couple dozen yrs ago she is
settled there,,,very hot but used to it now....small world.....tv and
films gives us our idea of it all...
- Re: marion humphreys asking of parents humphreys .wren ave by canal
by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 30-Sep-2011
Yvonne - thank you so much I have
now registered with Friends reunited, apparently I may be there twice
as I changed my email addy since last there 5/6 yrs ago. I have
received 2 responses from friends I went to school with, I am thrilled.
Yvonne thank you again, have a great weekend.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Sep-2011
have gt weekend...so pleased
..good...,nice pictures austin texas on google etc......members over yrs
wren ave....is at places......scrolls down to streets...click...put
southall middx .wren avenue....seem 10 to 13 houses.....allotments
behind north...lots swans canal along there,,,,,,,,,some freezes over
abit in winter.....southall rec swim club film 1961 on british pathe in
google...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2011
marion .....your sweet shop wren
ave rectory rd..seems called cosy corner.....penny for the guy bonfire
night outside,,where horses water trough for towing horses at
canal.....it was moved to wolf pub..water pump 1860 is there now
preserved by norwood green history residents society 1982..annual green
fete every july....used to be cricket matches and huge bat
prize...photos all on our photoboards..
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by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 3-Oct-2011
The huge 7ft cricket bat, you
mentioned was the prize, for a cricket match played every year on
Norwood green, between the Wolf Public house and the Lamb Public House,
the winner would then display it on the front wall of the Public house
for the year.It was a looked forward to event every year, as the rivalry
was very intense between the players. there was writing on the front of
the bat, but i cannot remember what it said.. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2011
there is photo of bat on our
boards with man holding it outside pub.norwood green meads
book....phylis our member is church warden norwood green ......residents
society have restored pump outside the wolf..she mentioned not been
known where huge bat went to.yes prize lamb or wolf won it...yrs went
by....yes some of the cricket photos on green on our boards......we have
been to couple of recent green
fetes .....every july for over 70 yrs now......barnes on the short one
page section this site...has barnes of farm asking about it....thanks ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2011
gorgeous rare photo
board17...tall higher than the man taller than door of the wolf
pub.....long list winners...date left name pub right...last 2 are lamb
then wolf winner.....saloon bar glass etched window of
wolf....1960..bill lewis seniorholding it at door wolf......ye olde
cricket bat trophy....board 7 photos wolf etc....google has british
pathe film of 1938 match..........
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2011
RARE now this
site.................especially photos............weekend seems ended
old face southall.facebook...says no admin.....used to be last 2 yrs
chat photos came up to see all in google..........the bedfont feltham
lady there month ago said it was being dropped...none use no
replies.....madeleine cox filby of georgia,carolina usa..she uses a
little bit ..middlesex.facebook....eddie mundayage90
MBE.hounslow feltham chronicle history.there has family tree history
feltham... middxfacebook...,for madelaine tried her family tree and
anyhistory.......since she was at school feltham and left as a
girl...for usa.many many yrs ago ...........her sons run the furniture
place south states usa...facebook.she asks for likes people to facebook
ticks to put their furniture adverts on.otherwise they cant
advertise....her birthday and hurrican passed not effecting them
chat,...,..madelaine in usa asked for oldfacesouthall archive history
nostalgia photos...........spent hours looking for groups middx
facebook...seems really only...cycle...golf...football
.cricket..sports..homosexual middx pubs...teddington
twickenham.........///southall hanwell hayes to have their own
conversation site photos ..extrememly rare.. .....only southall has
this.....dont know how much longer......lucky arent we............flickr
photostream.share..southallboard.hard work collection photos through
yrs..enjoyed by many regularily ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2011
thought it probably landlord
holding bat at wolf door..yes google has william lewis 1934
landlord....and 1914 1926........before then records 1866 1887 wolf
pub.......170 norwood rd......photos all yrs our boards......weekend saw
that southall grammar was considered to be moved to norwood green
.to.lots land of famous listed building norwood hall.behind phylis tea
tent fete,,,,,,,,,,,but now sikh school......well
conserved looks nice landscape garden.......says over crowding 1950s
southall grammar huts used....we were told 1959 no room few spaces
grammar......now villiers high sch..............photos to do with
uniform 50s on boards..etc etc ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2011
phylis...........bob.......amazing just found different photo
bat.....young will lewis and boy...7 ft bat on orange crate.....wins
have not been carved yet.......top says......ye olde annual cricket
match.lamb inn wolf inn....one winning entry carved...wolfe so lewis of
landlord pub...display bat...probably they had bat made.......disappear
...probably lewis wolf kept it in the end........photo on.southallboard17@yahoo.co.uk.photostream
sharing.............. 4 aug 1938...seems 2 films pathe free google of
matches.....and bat shown..........board20 etc southall
football......board 19 white house canal bulls of our member.........my
family born norwood green 1830s60s....then fern lane also the common and
also northhyde ..then.north southall........... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2011
your mum......worked for haigh
...picture framers.....by canal normill...many yrs ...they were in
london exhibition 1928.......our photoboard 38.page6...photo item haigh
frames prints......and google has list of people linked to haigh
frames.normill stamped on back of ebay items being
sold.........factory.in the old flour mill at canal by wren
avenue......lots local....etc.... and nostalgic photos.... etc ....46 boards ...... ... more >>
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Old Southall
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by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 21-Sep-2011
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I have photographs of Southall in the 1920`s and 1930`s, but I am
unable to put them on our site as I don`t know how. Can somebody please
help ?
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2011
sounds gt 20s 30s
thanks........scanned into your computer...............you have got into
flickr photoboard ok...have you....then click upload..........your
picture file of your computer comes up....highlight your photo
there....click insert .....and it goes in....click description......save
and it is on our board for all to see..........denis and len have their
own flickr..middlesex etc...if you find theirs easier............would be so good to see photos..thankyou.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2011
DILYS and ron cox have put photos
on if they can help you as well............north road school
southallknowhere members have put photos on...
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2011
roy you have been kind offering
photos since you asked last year also..........if you can put as
attachment to email......a member might be able to put photos on for you
via attachment email..............roy you are on facebook.......went
dormers school...........like many did..................if you put
yourself on friendsreunited site....private emails possible there and
photo attachments can be done that way........... ... more >>
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 22-Sep-2011
Hi Yvonne - I have posted my
emaill address by mistake on main page have asked for it to be removed
but no reply as yet. TY again for all your help.
Marion
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Dick Turpin's Hideaway.
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 21-Sep-2011
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I'm sure it's urban myth but when we were young & living on the
pre-fab estate, we often used to go over to the Bunny Park & just
beside the park is St. Mary's Church & to the left of the church
half way down the hill is a little dome shaped brick shelter. We were
always told it was Dick Turpins Hideaway but I'd like to know just
exactly what it was. Also the swampy land to the right of church wit h a mill pond & small cottage on it, does anyone know anything about that? ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2011
some nice pages back a bit of
bunny pk....photos on our board...cricket pavilion passed on way after
prefab path off greenford rd...dilys spoke of leeches in the brent river
at tube bridge....mike pauline so many of us went over there from the
southall roads .over more than 20yrs.icecream palour cafe..monkeys..maze
there now...60 yr old photos from prefabs hot summer
sunday.toddlers.out on the green
hills up to bunny pk......harry secombe brother was vicar st
mary...rose garden rockery down from zoo gate..connelly dell..into the
huge viaduct arches...hermitage thatch cottage listed building
.ancient....whole area was hanwell heath 1800s..on our old maps on photo
boards...several of us lived prefabs...cohen the doctor house before
white hart pub greenford rd...photos on our boards of all and large
round.mill pond many yrs they have fishing...dormers juniors walked
there wood section...nature science lesson..samples but boggy swampy.to
our shoes socks.stepping stones...natural springs under..land
wet...dormers wells...old maps show all the wet areas...back of prefab
estate denis just had his photo of water regulate concrete.large square
building....kids played all out there... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Sep-2011
Hi Fred the buried brick
dome you talk of is 17/18 century ice house, ice was
collected in winter and stored in them through the summer, i
have been told the Dick Turpin story
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2011
son of friend moved into
bromley..tall grand house of famous celebrity..went once it had ice
house out back............more recent times to brent bunny
pk...wallabies of oz...rhea mongoose peacock.parakeets.goats etc.
there.....this old stable block of zoo is only remains of mansion house
there burnt down 1930s.....hanwell park lands of...hanwell.heath fox
hounds chase etc...bridge 1760built but uxbridge
rd bridge since 1300s......ramblers use the famous old track path there
to greenford then up north via harrow................the hanwell site
cuckooites.....members chat of kids over there 40s 50s.....they went in
via church vicarage entrance we went in via greenford rd little
path.....tony as kid was next to hounslow heath crane river .fishing
etc.played........books are full of highwaymen...down to bell pub
hounslow photos show the gibbet tree outside pub....display highwaymen
to deter ... more >>
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 21-Sep-2011
Can anyone please walk me through how to send a question it does not appear anywhere????
- Re: Dick Turpin's Hideaway.
by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 21-Sep-2011
I am trying to find out if anyone remembers the McDonnell family who used to live in WREN AVENUE.
thanks for your help.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2011
well done marion..it worked best
wishes to you...the tiny road opposite lamb pub..by canal..couple our
members lived worked near clifton rd school on other side norwood road
there........what years.....nice memories norwood rd down to norwood
green and king st shops.....wolf pub bridge.police station by they have
closed....etc..good wishes
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 21-Sep-2011
Thanks for the reply my parents
lived in Wren Avenue just near the Lamb pub. I am trying to post a
message to ask if anyone knows them not sure what to put on first lane
of thread have put southall board and it just comes back to help...
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 21-Sep-2011
I click thread then put southall
board then re; Wren avenue then message and it just does not appear
sorry to have replied on dick turpin.lol
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 21-Sep-2011
I no longer live in the UK - but
would love to try to find people who remember the McDonnell family. I
have a sister Sheila and brother Frank anyone remember them.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Sep-2011
thats lovely...dont you worry
yourself my dear..........so sheila.and other..whats mum dad christian
names..............down the bottom page.clicking new thread....just put
name email in and click that...up comes.subject put humphries....and
message can fill in....................but here it is fine.....dont
worry ..lots good luck to you.....perhaps they were there during the
war.........worked nearby
workmates remember....on friends reunited site under places...has
roads...so wren has 4 members....john fedorow number 8 1957 to 72..ron
payne 1960 to 70.number 18..other 2 are too recent...you can send
private emails to them free........norwood mill there at bridge.....was
famous haigh frames.....we have members here gone abroad
oz..newz..france usa..etc ... more >>
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 21-Sep-2011
Thank you will try that now. I
lived in Wren Avenue from 1962 untill 1974. I know Ron Payne he lived
at #18 and also the Fedrows two sister also called Sheila and Christine.
wow I am so excited ty for all your help.
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by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 21-Sep-2011
ty for the help I think I may
have posted a board not sure though as cannot see it - they did not have
computers when I was in school.
- Re: Dick Turpin's Hideaway.
by Marion Humphrey (Member 10207638) on 21-Sep-2011
My mom worked at Freddie Haigs it was a picture factory.
- Re: Dick Turpin's Hideaway.
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2011
turpin........hanwell
heath...uxbridge road areas..through bentr pk hanwell.......in
google..olde hanwell by residents association,,,,,,,along hanwell asylum
known as chevy chase 1800...still road called that now opposite
aec...........oxford to london turnpike toll gate..stage coaches fox
hounds across heath///inclosures act law stop all farms there graze,,so
rows houses started.....hanwell bridge
waggon horses stables.grew huge overnight stay,,,frightened dark travel
robbers...1850s named viaduct.....gdad used it 1900s all wagons had
breakfast 4am beer on way to covent garden mkt garden produce from
northhyde farms...hat pub..kings arms pub used hanwell
broadway,,....north of heath brent lodge montague sharpe
gentry.demolished 1930 house at cafe of zoo........left of church ice
house ne corner of park,,,,,just at side of main path.....half acre by
side viaduct pub almshouses for poor.stocks there and cage for law
breakers..gallows bridge south of there,,highwaymen....,,piece on our
photoboard....cuckoo schools for poor.1850.chaplin there..community
centre was kept as memory of buildings.....tv spitfire was good other
day..75 yrs...and dambusters.tv.scientists tanks experiments.1st
started..spin bounce achievements.......bounce bomb...barnes wallace ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Sep-2011
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Spotted this barge at Orton Lock nr Peterbrouogh Sunday
18.9.2011. Marked Kearley & Tonge took pic put on Flickr
d.sexton428
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2011
thats amazing to see it..... will
try find your flickr......old jam ole...the bargees used to call
it..the dock into the factory opening ..canal brent rd..aunt was
spervisor there yrs...the girls came to visit her when she
retired...coal for the boiling fruit...their biscuits we had friday
nights silver tins mixed..layered
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2011
yes comes up easy in google..top
lock one of best seen.nice...so good kearley.boreas...southall closed so
long ago..grand union south preserve quite few historic
narrowboats.....brooklands banking good... we walked bit of it..the
vintage cars go up there pay ride.......waterbuilding back of
golflinks..yes we have some southallboard.photostream photosharing ...in
google...44 numbeed back.....quaker
oats yes gas behind....hampton ct.good at your norwood green
visit.....grave havelock 1stwar belgium...yes our military stone white
there for willans 1944 northcote ave..they named the next baby born
after him david in remeberence..119 white war graves heston
church.....google site yesterday 120 bus and 111 bus...tour
memories.....he said why called lady marg.....we know now dont
we...margaret wife.of........as we said....your flat gd photo....... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Sep-2011
Thanks Yvonne glad you liked
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2011
our lady marg rd one
2011.....easy in google...typed flickr.flower beds used to be airraid
shelters southall..........and up came 200 photos...north rd shrubbery
dormers cranes new build etc..photos...........index like that in google
often works to see our sublect photos southall.....dixon pharmacy there
you spoke of....your gdad boot shop gd.....weather quite nice before
winter...we have had lots
trips waters edge........canal rivers...boats swans etc....grab hour
between showers...lovely..sites....glad orton lock.....locks weirs etc
are gt ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Sep-2011
Dad worked at Kearley in the
late 50s didnt like how dirty it was left and whent to
Hygrade Trumpers way Hanwell
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2011
in google...nice site.......old
jam ole run...they do with original barges left coal to kearley
southall...1970 closed tongs.......2002 photos there..raymond...they
went.into old dock ceremony.memorial for.last man had past away then
back past willowtree restaurant as you know they had meal.....flickr
southallboard24s photostream.......in google has flower beds dixon lady
marg 200 photos...44 boards come up in google different numbers ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Sep-2011
Yvonne, can you please state how
to get into google for flower beds which used to be air raid shelters.
Try as I may, typing what you said, and I am not getting any photos.
Thanks.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2011
yes I tried it fiest time
worked....then later tried did not work.....mystery this memory computer
base,,,,ha.....will find and give you board.....took nice..colour ones
from open car window july 2011..came out gt..north road also....hang on
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2011
yes board24.......put it in
yesterday comment when realised index did not work 2nd time......often
in google with subject like flickr palace cinema southallboards
photostream works....different photo
subjects........19@yahoo.co.uk....popular today heston church...plaque
on lynch of 1974 restore by people contibution money..and 1900 and 1925
village photos after war memoria.church..my family would have
walked along there then..wedding photos groups at lynch..if your 1952
was...lovely setting trees tower yr1400....rare 1400 yr lynch......the
jam ole photos there...bridge dock mitre..kearley jam marmalade 1913 to
1074....concrete over now...every couple yr they come down memorial run
to was uxbridge swan bottle pub cinema uxbridge ..now willowtree
brookside marina restaurant before 246 mls 194 locks back..famous as
1970 last london coal run was southall....let me know if cant get lady m
flowers will put on board you can get...board12...19 .22.24.all good.17
39.5.was looking last week...loads viewings some nice comments by old
southallions...who found them..thrilled with nostalgia ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2011
index does not always work in
google,,,,,,but some do.....google......type..... flickr north road
southallboards photostream .........and up came 7 different boards..200
photos each of,,,,general with north rd included......board39 good...the
jam ole coal barge canal run 1913 to 1970,,,and every couple yrs
memorial runs...photos...kearley southall...brent rd...concrete dock
entrance bridge gone to
tring......last of 200 yrs colliey coal run........southall is.barge
people do today in memory of men and southall....20 pages in google
videos....youtube loads there photos stories southall......etc.... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Sep-2011
Thanks Yvonne - the flowers in
the container certainly looked much better than the air-raid shelters of
old. Didn't know the North road area very well, but certainly
recognised some of the photos on Southallboard24. They are really nice. I
can see in my mind quite clearly the school passage with the "White
Hart" at the side, and the railings of North road school. From then on
it's a bit of a blur.
Thank goodness we've still got photos on our Southallboards of most of
the pubs which now no longer exist. However, the one photo for me which
is the very best is the one of Southall Broadway 1950. It is exactly as I
remember it. Just a pity it just misses the top of Northcote Avenue.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2011
yes that was lucky southall
broadway photo was taken then...so few photos ever taken to find.40s
50s...precious.....yes every single pub on our boards...always black
railings I remember.......windsor tonight tv........thurs bbc2 new 9 to
10pm..spitfire....our board.new one heston hanger and article.more
photos this week there of author woodley bk 1st 25 yrs heathrow our
member holt..today emailed said
heston airport website he knows him.........THE MEMBER WHOS RELATIVE
LIVED WHITE COTTAGE BULLS BRIDGE different photo there today..board39
think.....phylis knew them...... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2011
yes images of up the northcota
ave end of shops 1940s50s etc.....would be great for everybody
nostalgia........ .went to ealing local social history library over
2hrs...photos broadway etc.......did not notice that end..............he
said get the king st southall green ones next....oh no too tired will
come again....but never have time......saw the good maps books
etc......map pre 1935 swingbridge
spikes before permanent bridge built and sluice up half way to hayes
bridge...........ernest ham 1920s went round streets southall painted
scenes ..200 in southall library now at ealing to see...............so
len dilys every member has given names shops broadway northcote ave end
and east end towards butlers 3 horseshoes..........anybody has
time...sketch......the line northside of cousins draper newsagent swt
shop.toy shop cycles....parkers bread salvation army hut....etc..tonys
icecream..guilespie .ives greengrocer......sketch the north
side....sketch south side...going east...stalls..labour club. woolies
.stationer jeweler .bank drapers
hairdressers..shoes..arcade,,sainsbury..wool
shop.....etcetc..........photo board goes 3 across...lengthwise
sketch..scanned in could go 3 across for whole
broadway.................another page could be king st...another could
be high st singers sew etc etc shops both
sides...sketched...................when no photos exsist...............a
frieze...everybody enjoys.....late 1940s gazette article there ....is
good.... of woman saving 2 boys from oswald rd out of canal
spikes.....photo flower beds lady marg has over 60 yrs old dixon
pharmacy still there..... ... more >>
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