Local boxer Reg "Buster" Spring
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 17-Sep-2011
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My grandson found his boxing records online. I thought they might interest you all.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=33594&cat=boxer
The address for his record is above.
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local paper.............and general
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2011
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photos this week shows lots viewings.board39 etc..article there 1950
approx.tuesday37 yr old housewife mrs lilian cooper ashford ave..spikes
bridge crosses shopping with sister often.saves 2 boys fell in
canal..ian wallace clive thompson.of oswald southall..she often tells
crowds kids be careful.they play near edge......heston ..fred spoke side
odeon flat ladders.photo side there....films showing old
photos odeon south rd 1961 to 70.webbs shop to right.......granada
greenford.flood brent bridge coston there and war bombed load hay
there....billy smart visit there...havelock dog stadium there.cricket by
gaswks..heston airport ltd aerodrome works old map wentworth rd..etc
there...........flm cameras top northcote ave old cinema,now
bank............FOR PHYLIS full screen close photo dragon head teeth
etc...hers and other member people worked...........nice quiet photos
palace cinema.south rd,,through changes names no traffic..names times
films showing..u certificate.........etc etc etc...willowtree lane 1930s
40s diagram..factory isolation hospital..long inlets off canal..docks
wharfs........etc etc etc ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2011
different people interested
different things..memories etc...1st 25yrs heathrow..on photoboard12
today...pages of book photos in it etc there..by woodley hist
press...etc etc...board12 has email from jack8730....he says gdad in
glory photo ceylon...len.........more good memories photos all interests
boards 12 onwards added..recently.....tremendous amount viewings very
active memories local and interests.....picture
tells thousand words helps jog memories chat......social history is the
word for up to the last 50yrs..the generation...family tree and people
of their lives and parents...all sites cover that type of thing a
bit....school friends of long ago etc ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2011
len....page 5..of
board12.........ceylon hms glory...never get time read comment or
email...but saw today....gdad in photo standing 3 rd from right...oz
hat......larry davis...4mths ago asked...reply to
him....jack....australia probably as 5.30 am our time email...june
2011.............he is thrilled to see it........flickr jack 8730
member....you can click email at board......pass word..middlesex12.......as
you know when you have used photos before......other photo
glory......the comment....click it says....group hms glory aircarrier
like it very much.........sounds group you would like to know
of.....flickr group presume..............best wishes ... more >>
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rare to see picture or film..of southall we would see daily..but now only in far gone memory of imag
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2011
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1950s or any yrs...have found some last 2yrs but today....not seen
these before..rare..squeeze on board39 at moment....webbs right side of
odeon.cinema..2 logos odeon signs there..magnigy glass and enlarge full
screen but cant see fim yet..couple crossing to go flicks..she
handbag...no traffic....one parked car outside cinema.....south
rd..photos...new parade southall broadway photo etc etc etc yr s
gone by old..50s 40s etc....lucky arent we...nobody had camera or movie
film..to capture it but now crave it...all give eye teeth for photos
film of days gone by...bbc2 6.30 daily.1930s..new housing.get rid old
1800s bad housing....terrible conditions of our forebears.......cox
filby..trinity rd there for you....... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2011
of course meant odeon south
rd..also was gaumont..palace...red post box opposite...sherrys chemist
corner..50s no traffic photo...new parade southall broadway photo along
boot shop.....south rd photo.....faulding fenn 1945 veday st party
laburham grove by ascot gdns west of lady marg rd along off durdans pk
canal...our photos waste land off lady marg rd1953 coronation party
canopy..fancy dress crowns
kids adults....etc etc..most all different sites complaining dead no
chat memories.or never even got off the ground at all.....unique rare if
people lucky enough to get.....appreciation.......so visual ..instead
of verbal memories....but parts of the year less time less
memories...and humour tales also enjoyed.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2011
for
denis...mike...all.....southall air cadet squad 1846.TA centre southall
bridge..sept 15 2011..activities diary gallery..flight lieutenant
rattan...in google photo on our board39.......with 1930 photo the new
parade southall,,boot stores sweet shop....broadway..photo.odeon south
rd post box opposite..no traffic..old car parked at webbs next to
cinema...name film there..dragons roof chinese design
george coles grade 2 listed english heritage.closed now..laurie dormer
instructor 1950s southall rec pool.with 4 girls swim.photo..article..son
of george mayor of southall....was of office opposite the gem.drove a
rover car..photo him southall rec swimmers etc our board......good film
bbc2,6.30 today daily,begin motorways service stations..seat
belts..speed limit.mini car..tony passed age 17 in his white mini..cats
eye inventor on google ... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 15-Sep-2011
As to the Odeon, I remember
cycling over to it after it closed for the last time & watching in
awe as the lanes were laid down for the bowling alley & a few years
later working at the bowling alley as an after school job. I worked
behind the counter giving out scoresheets also making hamburgers also
going up to The Rank Organisation's headquarters in London on various
messages for the manager, Jeff
Fairweather (an American and of course given the nickname Stormy)
including one time taking a birthday card to HQ because Jeff was sucking
up to the Chairman. If you look at the photo on Southallboard39 you can
clearly see the emergency ladder on the roof & out of view is (was)
a little flat that the Manageress of the Catering used to live, her
name was Sylvie and a very glamourous girl from Devon she was. She put
me in mind of Kathy Kirby. If ever one was going up there to see her one
was told to always knock twice. I think her boyfriend one of the
bouncers was sometimes in residence. Just remembered one of the bouncers
(not the boyfriend) was a guy called Roy and he claimed to be Adam
Faith's cousin, he certainly looked like Adam. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2011
dad was in a team there..wore
team shirts.etc..he brought home gold coloured tall trophies..we had
them on the sideboard...went couple times..heavy black shiny.bowling
balls.only just about got the hang of it.position..hold it and get it
down the middle not the gulley..will look at photo...my cousin
disappeared with his mates..saturday morning pictures.sweet shop then
sure he got in down that right
hand side door.of cinema..listed building deco and palace grade 2
listed chinese george coles..2 members family worked on the roof
dragons........kids6D entry.cinema.westerns,,,comedy...sing song...and
oh dear if film broke....projectionist...we cut through school passage
white hart pub side down to home..north rd school railings look just the
same.....several items on white hart in google..chris barber site jazz
white hart now demolished and ealing broadway jazz and viaduct pub
hanwell jazz... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Sep-2011
I bowled a few times at the Oden in the early 60 on visits back to Southall
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 15-Sep-2011
I remember the old Odeon so well.
Firstly when I was quite small going to Saturday morning pictures with
my friend Sheila. Then going with Mum and Dad on a Friday evening, and
when I was a teenager going with boyfriends on a Saturday night. After
it was turned into the bowling alley Brian and I played there several
times just after we were engaged. One time I stupidly took off my
engagement ring when i washed my hands in the Ladies and walked out without it. Panic! But someone had handed it in so panic over. ... more >>
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 15-Sep-2011
Also noticed only yesterday when
driving through South Road that there is scaffolding up on the old
Palace/Gaumont cinema and they are starting work. Don't know what they
are doing, but part of that building is listed, as least the roof
ornaments are.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2011
yes definately listed
phyl..george coles chinese architect..2001 english heritage payed on
protection....work there..your man worked on dragons and another member
did..thanks for info scaffolding....glad you got your ring....awkward
the heavy bowling ball.finger holes and all swing down that alley try
curve or get those pins down..ha...airport had big team there..dad
worked boac then ba. so bowl team
near airport.....left doors to go in back stalls..big cinema
inside....steps up..queue..pay metal flip up
ticket..usherette..icecream...cap hat glamourous uniform... ... more >>
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 15-Sep-2011
Going back to Fred's message i
had a Boyfriend who said his cousin was Adam faith..he was a Mod and
drove a Scooter..can't remember his name..he had dark hair..but i did'nt
think he looked like him ...this was in the Sixties..i also used to go
to the Bowling Alley..(BrockHouse ..as it was once known is now a Post
Office AS well as Sweet Shop..(North Parade North Rd)..regards Josie.
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 15-Sep-2011
The Odeon was opened in 1938 and the first film was "PENNIES FROM HEAVEN"
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2011
thanks len lovely..best
wishes...mods rockers..josie remember that starting at dormers..seaside
groups used to gather..rolling stones rock...beatles hair cut pin stripe
suits mods...girls dormers some had leathers...faith born acton
vale.off uxbridge rd..council estate..early tv pop and his
hits...business man at end used fortnam masons queens grocer shop
piccadily as his office.restaurant cafe area,.met chat clients..but his early heart attack. ... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 15-Sep-2011
Hi Josie
The fellow Roy I'm talking about had fair hair also remember he was a boxer thus became a bouncer.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Sep-2011
I must admit I was very confused
when I first started reading this thread as I hadn't realised that the
old Palace that I once knew had it's name changed to "Odeon" when the
original Odeon opposite "The White Hart" closed in 1961, and eventually
became a Bowling Alley. Although I left Southall in 1954, I still have
very strong memories of the old Odeon in the late 1930's and early
1940's. The memories I
have firmly in my mind are the Saturday morning pictures. The noise and
excitement before the film started was ear shattering. Kids rocking back
and forwards in their seats, some climbing over them, and shouting
across the rows when they saw someone they knew! In the midddle of the
film, usually about cowboys, there would always be someone shouting out
"Look behind you Mister". We all loved it. I used to take David, my
youngest brother. One morning they showed a film - I believe it was
called "The Ugly Duckling". There was a competition after the film for
two different age groups to write a story about the film. We both wrote
one, and sent them in. My brother, who was seven, won the first prize in
his age group, and had to walk on to the stage to collect his prize -
the handsome sum of 7/6d. He was over the moon as that was a small
fortune in those days (1943). He invested the money in a real Waterman's
pen which he cherished.Memories. I have also so enjoyed reading about
Fred Gough's memories of the Bowling Alley, but I was long gone from
Southall then.
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by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 16-Sep-2011
I can never recall the "Palace" being called the Odeon I will ask my sister who worked there.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2011
amazed..dig dig google...photos
rare as hens teeth......odeon cavalcade.clicked ad 1961 photo
odeon,,,south rd...so that is 2 now put on board 39.....lots rare photos
there..fred saw flat ladder memory...we did not go round taking
photos..as dylis said she had 1900s or modern photos but middle yrs
1940s 50s 60...dylis asked for photos.......all sites craving
photos.....too late to go photo the memory
now....photo tells thousand words.....people not got more memories on
all sites but photo prompts their memory....1961webbs store next to lens
sister job at cinema south rd.....bus stop never changes..next to shoe
shop of mikes memory sisters died bomb war...and bbc memory site..lady
there witnessed those going into bombed shop....dragon head full size
board39 for phylis ...........who with another member knew those
terracotta.at roof pantiles george coles..dragons 1929 architect.....how
found today south rd odeon..never know...long but bit luck as
well............. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2011
photos jog memory for
chat....other sites not got local chat really..all yrs......photo victor
mature palace.safari..gaumont palace dads army southern star....coffee
huge advert poster wall.....cinema treasures site tells all 1st film
shown open close dates...17 aug1936 odeon is there uxbridge
rd..........there would be famous film nov 27 1936.later.......waterman
pen....often heard they sell more
than parker etc.........antique show this week tv box 5 fountain
pens...the waterman brought huge price value.............lovely he
carried on writing....my best friend was like that..teenager wrote every
day..and continued...sent short stories to antonia frazer aurthor,,,and
marilyn sent short stories to magazines as well....if we had all
written diaries....what memories could tell..interests of southall and
funny bits ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Sep-2011
films....tv bbc2...today....nhs
1948 5july.......1/6 for doc private wales before..west ave 1936 birth
he wanted 2/6 not afford got districtnurse rolph clarence st
instead....nan had 7 births but could not do more for bad birth of
daughters labour...ok hes 75 today..lens wife nurse career....within
10yrs loads saved....also penicillin helped.I worked med library
beechams we did antibiotics brentford...tony
I both born hillingdon hosp..ha..hope not same cot .ha...1st baby of
millenium..1st welsh girl born hang on mum 2 mins into 5th ..named baby
after bevan...west ave aunt doll..did not know twins 1957..they said 10
mins after heres another born after midnight they have 2
birthdays.....1946 our 1st cousin after dad back from war west ave,,died
2yrs meningitus.no nhs..buried havelock...hats masks nurses etc...dont
see today smell of corridors.....some our nostalgia photos 200/300
viewings .thats just when they click...windsor tonight
tv..........words.north rd still easy in google photos 7 boards of 200
each......other index names dont come up in google probably google
memory just brings up our verbal pages using the same words..... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2011
in google..........half way
through the film..607 bus..looks like 3 horseshoes...or would it be
kings arms ornate front on right hand side seems uxbridge rd....607 to
shepherds bush bus...excellent draper shop just like cousins.southall.we
went in to get nans under wera etc..walls of glass front.wood drawers.
pulled out look through to see choose item liked............bygone
britain in google.films
videos archive..........1940s etc...film at the shops..half way 607
bus........films .holidays...film home front 1939 onwards...home guard
good faces lots men..osterley park..........gas attack masks try avoid
fear .try out in tent van people got inside to get an idea .......... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2011
says the contibuters to the west
middlesex dvd of films are ....uxbridge hillingdon....hounslow....so
they gave 607 bus and osterley home guard...etc....lovely film of shops
and inside...free click to see there......sw middlesex also
there........in catalogue click..trailers..commentary also
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general
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2011
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denis you spoke osterley headquarters home guard..monday excellent 20
episode series is there.bbc2 6.30...barry madelaine cox filbey
1940s50strinity rd.you ask photos do you have any or comments
southall..we can help you to 44 boards photos...daily mail this week was
74 yr old.trevor baylis dormers school .he went to 2000 reunion.daily
mail on line computer also...so you can get their articles pho tos
there.....newspaper photo of his room eel pie island full of windup
clock radio.for africa..phylis len.......all his photos etc around
him..obe for inventions.1997....photo radio on our boards......tony put
photo of his 1950 radio took to local shop for parts valve..suitcase
type of his dad..large...got hot...monday bbc 1 tv..9 pm dolls hse queen
mary windsor castle....we often went windsor from southall..swans river
and in castle......fishing..boating.. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Sep-2011
Thank you Yvonne shall watch that dad did training there all Home guard did from all over country
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2011
yes every.episode good about
20..daily.many times been to osterley pk
mansion.lakes..nice...madelainebarry cox filbey you asked help...scroll
to bottom page click new thread use .or click any reply....southall
knowhere gives you membership number..easy after that.....click next and
goes back 11 yrs pages..scroll.arrow down.headings quite easy
fast....broadway southall shops of trinity .jobs schools.clubs etc...40s 50s...southall war etc...mayor was our member dee ferris haigh...buses trolley etc...... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Sep-2011
Yvonne the person that held
Lady Marg. Rd going thro in 1925 was a Mr Winchester a
night watchman at Maypole he fell in the dock and drowned
allowing his house to be pulled down
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2011
yes famous the hold up building
of lady marg rd..so 1925..the photos southave gdns 1920s
built..shakleton hall side nan moved in new west ave youngest was 3 yrs
old.doll....the number people fell in canal or dock...wonder if tired
from work or bit of beer....my cracknell worked maypole 40 yrs to
1950s..would have know nightwatchman....the old maps show top part lady
marg built...then abrupt stop....wonder
how his house was...in way of digging and continue staight rd up
north...such long rd..or what....photo of pharmacy dixon..yes still
there..huge flower beds think 6 along..were airraid shelters..think they
said r t warren famous builder company lived lady marg rd...photos
cranes new build dormers etc boards.taylor woodrow demolish ruins..new
marina village estate and 1956 sculpture teamwork taywood photo
there....pub has victorian gent antique looking sign swinging for
enginneer pub.....today photo veday street party board42 could be off
lady marg roads or off southall pk roads.off uxbridge rd...thanks for
the info....josie says hold up now to get house from a retired dormers
teacher who wont move out...lady marg rd project... ... more >>
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by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 11-Sep-2011
Clare, sent E`mail to Mike and
one to you, yours came back as address not known? The mystery deepens? I
hope Mike received his.
Ron
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Sep-2011
Hi Yvonne most enjoyable not
just the Home guard but Osterly Park spent meany happy hours
there as a kid on our bikes
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2011
yes was good cedar trees.lake
.there.deborah kerr cinema film was there...v2 rockets at eeekend
tv..crossbow..find the ski ramps launch site and slave labour in the
mountainside factory..P I...as dirk bogarde..30000 photos 3d glasses to
view..heston airport planes went up for reconnaisance..photos on our
board..loading the camera on....kate middleton gdad,,later boac
pilot...war trained in canada pilots...he
tipped the bombs over kent to stop some at blitz london...eileen has
just written book..maths clever leaving school at 16..but calculated the
curve...to help find the launch sites..she came on tv last week and is
on google...dday..they destroyed them...labour could not get them made
again quick enough..huge dome bunker by calais..barnes
wallace.bomb.bashed at ground around created earth quake effect,,so
destroyed...pennamunda far up north..the such good cinema
film...chiswick 1st v2 bomb landed plaque there now bad deaths...my aunt
lived chiswick by chiswick mansion hse...partner was 6 yrs war
fireman..... ... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 13-Sep-2011
Yes Denis, Osterley was great as a kid & the very best conkers much bigger than Southall Park
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2011
they still do fishing over the
far side lake goes to the back woodland..and back entrance windmill
lane...glass plate photos of norwood green camera man in 1900s osterley
pk and little lane back footpath..on our boards.rare photos..skinny dip
as well.....stables gt icecream...used to be little round pond opposite
there in front of huge pillars portico..steps of mansion..what yr was it
filled in 30s
probably...west path goes along fields farm track to heston church we
lived there also....hole in wall famous..huge wall gap gate to osterley
tube....there....now osterley farm organic produce sold in hut along
there.....costume events at osterley...film show in stables museum
etc...picnics on lawn ... more >>
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by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 13-Sep-2011
When I was fourteen I worked at
the far mat Osterley in school holidays picking runner beans etc. Then
one day they had me picking plumbs IN THE CHICKEN RUN I hated chickens
we had them at home & they would peck me constantly when I fed them.
Also at age 5 my dad made me some paper wings out of crepe paper &
said "If you go into the garden you will Fly" I did our cockerall
chased me flew up my back
clawing my legs, back & ended up on my shoulders pecking my neck.
So when I was up the tree picking the plumbs I was so scared I droped
all the plumbs I had picked on the floor & the chickens had them I
got the sack!!! ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Sep-2011
Thank you Yvonne for your prompt
of "The Queen's Palaces" on BBC1 last night. It was absolutely fabulous,
made all the better by Fiona Bruce and her wonderful description of it
all. What splendour it all was, and Fiona even accompanied Andrew Gant,
the organist, by singing to a piece of music "How Lovely are the
Messengers" by Felix Mendelssohnn. So, she can also sing! It's still on
BBC1 i-player. A really wonderful programme. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2011
lovely smile at your story we had
cockerell next door at 18 west ave..chicks eggs in hut.loud
cockerell..early morning....apple tree gdad planted...I put mistletoe
seed squelch white fruit in bark...wonder if it matured..,,,sandy you
spoke of southall film studio.........in google type.......that and up
comes their very good site...photos all....yrs back....
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2011
yes she sang well///perhaps
church or uni upbringing..she is gd antique show and she did philip few
weeks ago...her description palace extremely good and to george
4th,marble arch is better now ..easy walk from tube gardens layed,,,73
yr old nash..wonderful architect...just been to the current buck palace
gallery and it is carlton house pieces..display...from france the
items..everything..those chandeliers.clever
remote slide down to clean and view..albert philip.consorts
clever.organise improve.they say of many things..went in palace tour 8
yrs ago,,,one of the best days..so beautiful everthing perfect...yrs of
well looked after.....next week windsor and mary dolls hse..saw
once...film archive 6.30 bbc2daily..next week good episodes..they showed
chapel buck palace king queen just escaped..I asked staff and he said
chapel was the room was in at art gallery now.....9 hits bombs the
palace.....google site for bbc.rare films found...is hands on history
films..... ... more >>
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by maggie shaw (Member 10255238) on 15-Sep-2011
To Fred Gough
Good morning Fred. Just read your piece on Southall Bowling Alley and
wonder whether you remember by brother David Robinson who also worked
there for a while. My mum made clothes for the managers wife - at least I
think it was his wife - and remember them being a very handsome couple.
Thanks for the memory. Regards from France.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2011
maggie just to say heard from
linda marilyn crank step brother..was geoff dunkin..wemt lady marg and
greenford grammar .became top job..head college oldham up north...his
wife sons still up there..he died far too young..oliver his son wrote to
me trying to trace the girls and memmories...allemby rd bungalow.oliver
solicitor central lodon.....said linda carloina usa many yrs
married..he died young,,has
son...marilyn not well has gone to be with linda...hope all ok.sounds
not....cant get reply from linda friends reunite...think they sign on
yrs ago..people tend computer 2000 millenium then loose interest...so if
changed email or computer lost then she would not get their
email...edna their mum husband dunkin died 2war.his egypt on
commonwealth war graves info.,,from southallgreen family..widow young so
only had geof....remarry crank 2 girls but never saw or heard
him...wonder if mr crank not there.....she was lovely their mum......new
domers entrance by her bungalow...new building over back her fence..2
huge cranes building..all best you yours.ytxx
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by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 15-Sep-2011
To Fred Gough, Hi there I used to
work at the bowling alley, from when it first opened,I'm not sure for
how long. I was one of the men who looked after the machinery. I started
off as a junior, went on a course, then I was made Assistant Chief
Engineer, went to Golders Green for a while, and then came back to
Southall as Chief Engineer. I do remember Mr Fairweather, and when he
left, the next manager I believe came from Brighton. They were good times,made a lot of friends. ... more >>
- Re: general
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 15-Sep-2011
In reply to Maggie Shaw yes I
remember the name Dave Robinson now that I see it, if it's who I'm
thinking of he had a slicked back haircut in the style of Tony Curtis.
Also remember Dave Gahan an Irishman with orange hair.
To Graham Laidlaw yes I remember your name & also Dave ? (he had a
sister Maureen who went to Grammar School with us) lived at the back of
Southall Park overlooking the railway line. Also Michael West & John Rowbottom & one engineer who was not very popular Ian Massey. ... more >>
- Re: general
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 16-Sep-2011
Hi again Graham
Just remembered Dave's surname was Drury and do you remember Tony
Blanchard a very good bowler? Also the Americans who used to bowl there a
lot, they came from the Northolt Airbase I think.
- Re: general
by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 16-Sep-2011
Hi there again Fred, You have
brought out a few names I remember, Dave Gahan, friend of mine for a
while, Ian Massey, now I don't think he was an engineer, I seem to
remember him behind the control desk, as they were called, where you
used to work. Tony Blanchard, certainly remember him, used to bowl with
him in the leagues, and David Drury. The other guys that I worked with
down the back, were Don,
nice guy, Jimmy, whizz with electrics, and a chap called Ernie, started
off as Chief Engineer there, and finished up working out of Head
Office. And the Americans, out of West and South Ruislip. They used to
like the lanes very much, they had a reputation of being the best around
for a long time. The lane man was a big fella, can't remember his name,
but very good at his job. ... more >>
- Re: general
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 16-Sep-2011
Yes as to the lanes Graham, they
were very good & a lot of places I've bowled since don't seem to
take much care of their lanes & the terms 'fast' or 'slow' lanes
don't seem to apply, well at least not here in Australia. Mind you it's a
few years since I've bowled but I've still got my ball in the garage.
Do you remember the woman who replaced Sylvie as Catering Manageress a
rather large lady & one
day she was taken I'll at the centre & they took her to hospital
& she gave birth, it turned out she didn't know she was pregnant. It
seemed rather strange at the time & still does. ... more >>
- Re: general
by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 16-Sep-2011
Hi Fred, I do remember the lady
who took over the Cafeteria, I did pick her up and bring her to work a
few times, she used to bring her dog with her, and it used to sit on the
parcel shelf at the back of the car. I used to have a Mini in them
days. A real live nodding dog.
I think the lane guy's name might have been Eric.
Anyway if I think of anything else, or anybody pops up I will let you know.
- Re: general
by maggie shaw (Member 10255238) on 16-Sep-2011
Hi Yvonne,sounds like you are
getting closer to finding Marilyn. Good luck. On a different subject,my
brother Phillip Robinson, is here at the moment and he mentioned working
at a pattern makers in Norwood Green for a few years around 1963
although he can't remember the name. He worked there with a very
handsome chap called Malcolm Candy who went on to be an actor of sorts.
Phillip's best friend
was Jeff Moore whose father ran a grocers shop in Norwood Green. He went
on to be a barrister's clerk in the City. Unfortunately they are no
longer in touch. Ring any bells for anyone? ... more >>
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2011
jeff moore on friends reunited
site..1961..dormers..photo with brian george cricket featherstone rd
...eltree aeroclub.....best wishes to you both maggie
- Re: general
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Sep-2011
So Graham, you gave her a lift to work eh! I don't suppose? Sorry just my little joke. Best regards, Freddie Gough
- Re: general
by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 17-Sep-2011
Anything for a free meal, eh Fred
Regards Graham
- Re: general
by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Sep-2011
Ha, ha Graham, mystery solved after all these years.
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Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
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by Clare (Member 10264576) on 29-Aug-2011
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Hello. I am trying to find Raymond Winter born in 1941. He used to help
his dad Jack (John) who was a sign writer in Latimer Road. He worked
with horses and the last we heard of him he was still selling them at
Southall Market. Any information would be gratefully received. Many
thanks.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 30-Aug-2011
The market has closed it has been so for about 3 years.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 31-Aug-2011
I've read that it was run by 3
men and when 2 retired, the other decided not to continue with it. Am I
correct in thinking that the market transferred to Langley? Many thanks.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by josie (Member 10235627) on 31-Aug-2011
There is a Horse Market in
Langley not sure what day it is on or who runs it ..just hope it's
better than The Southall one for the animals what get sold there..my
Father in law worked at Southall had to leave could not stand seeing the
cruelty what went on. regards Josie.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 31-Aug-2011
Yes I've heard there were cases
of cruelty - my dad tells me a story of his granddad seeing a man
whipping a horse because he wouldn't get up. When his granddad finished
with the bloke he wouldn't get up either - don't condone violence but
hey! Knowing the family's love of animals I'm suprised Ray would have
been connected with a market with a bad reputation. Ray went everywhere
by pony and trap and
could be seen certainly within the last 20yrs around the streets of
Hayes and Southall. Two of Ray's cousins have found each other and
they're now looking for Ray/Raymond and his sister Sylvia. They would be
in their 70's now but I'm sure they're both still characters! Any help
would be appreciated. Many thanks ... more >>
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2011
1941..sometimes in old days might
have been bit better but made to close yrs cruelty in more recent
yrs....google says many were gypsies...says some people felt sorry payed
cheap£50 for pony just to get them out of bad conditions..bad condition
they looked .mkt cattle horse proud award given to southall hundreds
yrs ago make it market town old high st oxford rd london..white hart
redlion pub.coaching
inns.......hay carts along there from hayes bridge farm.......but tiny
space there modern times traffic....not right modern times ... more >>
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Aug-2011
Have just got a copy of
R.J. Meads Growing up with Southall after 1904 theres a few
items on the horse and cattle market in there.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2011
langley has e,mail on google but
1941..or if they know of him in later yrs....smith gypsy cobs market
lane parlaunt road langley field every wednesday ...3 times yr horse
fair...horse hounds says southall closed 1aug 2007..was given award to
be mkt town there 1698 to famous merrick welch of village ..only 697
lived there then......we visited mrs foot teacher dormers who retired
cottage north wales next
to williams family generations horse dealers farm...nice people they
dealt with horse dressage championship people of princess
ann......proper horse boxes they travelled to burley etc........1941
southall mkt went on during the war..men away in services ...southall
hayes munition factories ..fire and arp workers.....essential factory
work..... ... more >>
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 31-Aug-2011
Thank you all so much for the
information you have given......researching all the items you've
mentioned....not going to get anything done today! Hoping Ray still had
something to do with horses but after phoning Langley market today I
don't think he's there anymore. I'm sure he's still alive but don't
know where!
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 31-Aug-2011
Got some more information - He
had a daughter called Susan born in 1964 I believe and I think his wife
was Kate although I can't be 100% sure of that......It may help!
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 31-Aug-2011
No, I'm mistaken, his wife's name may have been June.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2011
susan winter on friends
reunited..free site.....about that year...1976 hanwell grammar
school..draytonmanor..little ealing primary....all near southall.east
side...bowles winter........but highly populated west london....so if
other winter family.......
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2011
photos those at southall horse
mkt 1983..your winter 1941 so 42 if he was there or they knew
him.....google type....gypsy horse dealers image pictures southall horse
market.......2007 end firm that ran it was michael lovelace dealer in
harefield middx......partners richard steel anthony lovelace..89/77 yrs
old retired then....alan stubbings 55yrs used the horse mkt by
2011...if knows winter
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 1-Sep-2011
These accounts of Southall Market
have aroused some old memories. On the rare occasions when dad had a
Saturday off, he sometimes took me to Southall market. I have memories
of men getting a large squealing pig onto a lorry. Also a man near us
who had a goat on a lead-the goat was trying to chew the pocket of an
unsuspecting man in front of him!
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 1-Sep-2011
Thank you Yvonne. I've found a
number for an A Stubbings in Hairfield - no reply yet but I'll try this
evening. Aslo been on Fox and Hounds site.......there may be some people
who know of Ray on there.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 1-Sep-2011
I wish I'd gone there Michael - it sounds quite a day out! I wonder if there's anything on Pathe News........worth a try.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 1-Sep-2011
My memories of Southall market
were in the 30's after school I went there after all the pigs had gone
out of the sties I cleaned them my pay was three old pennies and a mug
of tea they herded the pigs out on to the Uxbridge Rd. down Avenue
Rd.then into pens at the station the family that owned the market were
the Steele.s
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2011
thanks len...richard steel was 89
2007 retired when his partner decided close 2007......google
says.........the northolt willowtree yeading lane sites memories
good........lewis chick pigs cows farm over willowtree bankside..off
canal by southall.....those that lived yeading lane or near yrs ago..it
was not unusual to find pig wandered into front garden....rural to 1970s
80s...saw huge green fields
there before flats estates.green belt.........nans family were cranford
lane and northhyde...orchards around ...1900s...and old cottages back
yard kept pig fed by use up scraps veg of dinners.....trotters brain
cheeks.chitlings...sausage...1800s her family and everybody..helped with
a bit of meat in stew to survive....piggery opposite school rising sun
pub cranford lane...... ... more >>
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 1-Sep-2011
Clare go on to you tube there are pictures of Southall market in the 80's.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 1-Sep-2011
Thanks Len......off to look on site now!
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 1-Sep-2011
Len, don't know what I'm doing
wrong but can't find anything. Would you tell me what you entered to
get the search hit. Many thanks. Clare
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 1-Sep-2011
Yvonne. Spoke to Alan Stubbings
tonight - he knows Ray well but hasn't seen him for a few years now.
Such a nice man, he's going to help me find him. Thank you all so much
for your help.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2011
what luck he knew him well..55
yrs he spoke well of visits and friends..so that is great....am so
pleased helped...it gives me pleasure..a good result....kindest regards
to you.....photos our boards ..new in google flickr
southallboard19@yahoo.co.uk....44 boards.....photostream......I went
there saturdays few times inthe 50s..stalls shopping...xmas wrap paper
they sold..long tubes..good price..etc....veg
all things.....ytube has southallmarket...it is huge sound...but tried
to the end..only shopping broadway 1980ish clothes etc...........list of
ytubes southall but seems asian clothes etc shopping.........google has
films.1959 award film to 14 yr old carnegie boy kelvin plane
crash.southall.......southall rec pool film....laurie dormer.his.photo
recent interview dolly thompson..swimteams.....southall ivy snellling
1937 film diving...went to school 1954 brenda snelling sure she is
related.....ron brewer film donkey king st........and some more southall
films there ... more >>
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2011
alan and you might try in google
192.com....costs to see whole address but gives age and town...elect
role bt telephone..........he does not seem to be on friends reunite
site in google.......if people pass away....ancestry .or find my
past.....deaths comes up yr 2000 2002 etc.....names age town is at
site.....
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 1-Sep-2011
Well have more news! Ray was seen
this morning! He lives somewhere near The Favourite Pub Hollands Park.
So pleased to hear he's alive and well now all I've got to do is find
out where. May pop up there on the train and have an ask around......so
excited!
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Sep-2011
I know this has nothing to do
with the ongoing subject Yvonne, but when you mentioned Southallboard 19
there was a photo of Northcote Avenue on there. I wished to myself that
I could send it to my sister who lived there as well, and just tapped
on the envelope at the top. I couldn't believe it as the facility to
send photos is now back!! It has been unavailable for such a long time.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2011
oh good..so pleased...19 is a
funny one.....think there are 2...ha.....19@yahoo.co.uk.....and
19@rocket.com.........not sure but plenty photos all through to 44..all
areas all yrs......several of northcote pub...josie was kind told us
boarded even till recently.....
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 2-Sep-2011
Clare re .Southall market on you
tube I just typed in Southall market I am pleased you have traced Ray
the phone number for the pub is 08721482679 hope this helps you you get
out at Latimer Rd. tube station.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 2-Sep-2011
Thanks Len. Tried that number and
another one I came across on the internet but neither of them work. I
wonder if the pub has closed down.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2011
photo ..of the pub..on
google..looks like boards......so many pubs closed these
days.......looks old...seems to look abit closed think they look like
boards......
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 2-Sep-2011
Clare I checked St Annes Rd. there is a Raymond Winter but the age is deceiving, age group is 55 to 60 he lives alone
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 2-Sep-2011
Thank you for checking Len. He's
definately younger than my dad who's 75 and we're all pretty sure he
was born in 1941 which puts him at 70. Raymond Winter's are like
busses......none for ages and then two turn up! :-)
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2011
it is on street view if the
camera van went round 2008....on corner green.modern square pub.a little
bit old..windows above look like flats above......solid dark green wood
front around corner with a door.tel 0207603 4783..favourite name
there.could it be irish,,,.it is queensdale cresent parade shops..st ann
rd.holland pk...next door to it is shop called london carpets with
their tel number above the shop.....
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 2-Sep-2011
Clare it's getting very
interesting I do hope you finally get a result did you live in
Southall? I suppose I am the oldest member on the site I am 86 I live
in Hayes, at the moment I am in Plymouth, my wife died recently we are
having a tree planted in memory of her.leonard.goddard@yahoo.co.uk
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 2-Sep-2011
Yvonne - found the picture....I
think they call these character pubs!Found a comment on the carrier
pigeon post describing it as "possibly the worst local....only saving
grace is a good darts team and a shelf full of discarded novels".
Doesn't sound as though it has a lot going for it!
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2011
27 st ann rd is the pub and the
shop next door is 27 st ann.called london carpets tel.0207603 1808.post
office along a bit 37 st ann..tel o845 722 3344..,postcode all have is
london w11 4st...nice green front flats opposite 2008,,,pub like a wood
front club...ok..just one window protected by bit of boarding but ok
neat looking in 2008,,camera van.,perhaps 192 type error to say 45 yrs
old...good luck..
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2011
the picture on google has 2 men
standing in door think 2007....age about 50/60 ish......but 2008 street
view of pub looks ok.look like one room flats above..rented or B and
B.......reasonable area..lawn flats opposite...but take care if you go
alone....that different telepnone number might work......or a letter to
the address 27....if he can contact you....good luck take care..pension
might be post office.....or over 70yrs old if local authority help ... more >>
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2011
scroll down the 192 site.....and 2
entries....2002 to 2009....ray winter 57 to 61 yrs..with other occupant
robert winter.londonW11 ..........................2010 to 2011 ray
winter alone 55 to 59 yrs.london w11......electoral roll..telephone
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 3-Sep-2011
Yvonne - thank you.......you're a
good detective! All this Southall talk has got my mum going through old
memories too - thought I'd share them with you - her name was Janet
Fox...
"I lived at No.38 and further down was my friend Jill Sheppard. Behind
the house where June Anderson lived (in Dane Road) were the Markwick's -
a big family who I'm sure everyone knew. There was a back alley
between the two roads
where I learned to drive - My Dad used to let me go forwards and
backwards (no room to turn the car around) and a fair bit of 'courting'
went on there too!!! - (turning the car has always proved a bit of a
problem!!!)
At the top of the road was St George's Church Hall (now a Life
Councelling Centre I think). I lived most of my free time there -
Guides, Cubs Sunday School Youth Club and Socials and my Drama Club -
all the plays were put on there run by Alf Lylie - a lovely old 'ham' if
ever ther was one. Loved every minute of my youth.
Dad and I were married at St George's Church at the top of the road in
1958. I went to school at Tudor Road Juniors. Dad lived in Rutland
Road and went to Lady Margaret School.
We both worked at AEC Ltd. where we met - me later at EMI Hayes.
We both remember the the shops in the high street. I worked in Lists
the Bakers as a Saturday girl. There was John's the Book and Stamp
shop, The second hand shop opposite. I remember the Barbers - had a big
striped pole outside I think. And of course there was the Co-op rooms
where Cleo Laine used to sing before she was famous - Later at the Pub
by the traffic lights and Chris Barber with Ottalie Patterson. I think
also Norman Wisdom owned a Sports shop opposite the odeon." ... more >>
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Sep-2011
Clare - I went to Tudor road
school Infants and Juniors. In 1936/7 there was a very pretty little
girl with long blonde hair called Elsie Sheppard in our Infants class.
She was a very shy little girl. Wonder if she was related to the friend
you knew?
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 3-Sep-2011
Pauline - I've passed the details
to my mum - Janet Fox, her sister some 5 years younger was Susan Fox.
They would have just returned from South Africa where they had emigrated
to but after 18 months they realised it wasn't for them and returned
home to Southall.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 3-Sep-2011
Yvonne - I've got a telephone
number for the carpet shop but they've moved now - The Favoutie Pub put
some tenants in there so they didn't have to pay empty premises rates.
The man at Horizon car parts was very helful but told me the nearest
post office is now at Shepherds Bush - I was hoping I could send the
newsagents a letter which they could pass on to Ray next time he went to
get his pension. I
guess Sheperds Bush Post Office may do the same but I'm thinking he may
have his pension paid into an account if he has to go that far to get
it. Anyway it sounds as though the Favourite Pub, their novel collection
and darts team is still going strong so will try and get my husband on
board with my quest and ask him to go with me tomorrow. ... more >>
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 3-Sep-2011
I've got a possible address!
Penzance Place! Does anyone know it? There are some flats called
Crossways or something similar........feel we're getting closer.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 3-Sep-2011
Pauline - My mum says her sister
was Pauline Sheppard. Mum was at Tudor Road about 1949 but my Auntie
Susan was there 50 - 55ish. Her friend was Beryl Flunder. Mrs Jones
was the teacher there. They went on to Dormers Wells and Mum went to
Drayton Manor. My Uncle Mikes (not real Uncle but I still see him
regularly now) Mum and Dad owned a house in Tudor Road. He went to
Dormers Wells too - family name of Rudge.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Sep-2011
Thanks Clare. I'm afraid I'm a
bit more ancient than your mum - have just turned 80! However, Mrs Jones
was teaching there when I was at Tudor road. She was a Welsh lady, and
an extremely good teacher who didn't stand any nonsense from anyone, but
I loved Tudor road school.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2011
we have just got in claire this
fantastic weather...riverways,boating and huge number ducks swans.....we
were west ave 1928 to 1961,,,cousins went tudor pam born 1935/7
margaret,,1950 born charlie ackers.....pauline hollywood musicals prom s
tonight good....rest of us cousins born west ave 1947 /9......broadway
woolies top of rd spikes pk bottom....canal bridge....the stret view
site st ann s rd...gave
list of shops 27../..37.../ etc.with telephone numbers...there might be
another shop there who knows him..or does he live in flats opposite the
pub..several there....the officials can trace people because they have
accesss to all the council etc..computer info......will read all your
memories southall and get back to you sounds great...keith our member
went drayton manor....my dad aunt myself cousins went to dormers..ours
got married holy trinity..best wishes to your mum family.husband from
yvonne tony....chris our member loved st george club..she will chat to
you,,,, ... more >>
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2011
put it all in google and london
w11 4pe..and zoopla..........then click map you get streets.......so it
is north of holland pk tube to right east side of st ann
rd.........click birds eye and see several flats cluster there.....off
shepherds bush station..off notting hill.........realised I means your
mum...her yrs...in your nice memories...my cousins and myself....alley
ways from dane to grubans grocer
northcote pub and west ave....younger cousins 1956 to 1960s....all went
dormers and north rd schools........denis ..our member went lady marg
rd school...our john willans went southall tech tudor rd.born
1936.....my friend brother lady marg those yrs .geof dunkin..tim lott
who wrote southall bk went there back then.......friends reunited
site....click place and dane rd...has list numbers residents..members
all yrs.......and tudor rd members..etc there........husband past test
age 17 in his white mini...but girls had not been known in our crowd to
drive no money for car or lessons either,,,so neverdid..scared of
traffic..tried but...should do it age 18/21...best brain for it.... ... more >>
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 3-Sep-2011
I went to Tudor Miss Hannet was
the Headmistress a petite lady with glasses Miss Jones was a short lady
with a strong Welsh accent other teachers were Miss Pouncey and Miss
Ball on Monday we had to take our milk money in tuppence halfpenny
Empire day we paraded round the play ground with our Union Jacks then we
got half day I started there in 1931 eleven years later I joined the
Navy after going to Dormers.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2011
crossways flats are under
princedale rd in google..same rds area..just north walking from holland
pk tube...londonw11 4nr.........type zoopla......click and birds eye
shows..then click map street map shows where flats are in the road......
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 3-Sep-2011
Sounds like you've had a
wonderful day Yvonne. I've gone onto zoopla as you suggested and can see
the flats. Can't beleive how close this all appears to be to
Westfields Shopping Center. I was there 3 weeks ago with a friend and
our daughters! Don't expect to get any more memories from mum and dad
tonight - they're watching the Proms - Hooray for Hollywood on BBC2.
It's fantastic!
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2011
fantastic proms..me too....so
excellent..hope you see it pauline..orchestra..soloists the best
ever.choir..radio times huge photo fred ginger and article.....we saw
ginger at bbc tv audience show free tickets.nice........more from your
mum next week ....any photos can help you put them on our 44
boards......new westfield mall went couple yrs ago so white
light..great....worked across so many yrs..out
from white city from notholt station......bbc tv and radio
also..reference libraries.....terrible they pull the o.down soon..blue
peter out in horseshoe tap dance..tv and pull it down..only 1960
built...white city dog stadium next door.....all those new offices
there.......derelict opposite the beeb and now nice new white
mall....yes new shepbush station tube and bus is good.....yes your flats
rds are just near.....have been to the area once...never yet fear of
nott hill carnival..but will go kids day keep saying...love
costumes....but they say hyde pk from now on...good easier we have been
to lots in hyde pk.....good luck your flats......local estate agent
might know who of the flats to ask which is his........ ... more >>
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by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 4-Sep-2011
Clare, you mentioned Mike Rudge
as a family friend. Please ask him if he lived in Palgrave Ave in the
1940/50 and worked at EMI Hayes.
If he is the same ask him if he remembers me,Ron Cox, in Australia now.
Tried to trace him afew years ago through this message board but with
out success. I lived in Saxon Rd 1939 to 1951.
Ron
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by Clare (Member 10264576) on 4-Sep-2011
Hello Ron
Sent your message to Mum and Dad - they will be seeing Mike on Wednesday
but will speak with him before that I'm sure - hope he is the Mike
Rudge you're looking for......did he have a sister called Molly? Clare
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2011
george markwick dane rd.aec.now
newzealand...every family had somebody emigrate..1959 my cousin turned
up at west ave motorbike sidecar.to say goodbye they went oz.still
sydney...friendsreunited.nice list dane rd.southall..our hse is on site
the little lad he was when his mum moved in as we left..will get in
touch soon...time long list things to do..never time..we left as his
young mum and young kids.moved
in so gave.things left in 3 bed house because we had been there since
1928..went to a flat......my other cousin of yours and mum yrs locally
...suz brook.david.northcote ave.......if west ave was tudor rd..wonder
where catchment was back then ..so greenford ave was north rd
primary.....emi my family worked...aec my cousin ted ackland was
draughtsman there to retire . tall had limp..born 1913........your mum
if hobby tries small computer.google easy..she will have war rationing
to 1954 our square of roads there of southall.....wimpey at lancaster
rd...wolf rubber works canal..brookside fields...salvation army hut..all
the broadway shops.snooker hall..palace cinema...white hart pub
jazz....clinic at alley by dane....northcote pub boarded...st george now
large car park at side..macdonalds beef burgers...tudor rd sch opened
1906.....with st george..1904ish...organ has been renewed famous
historic one........607 bus of yrs ago..trolley...gdad went uxbridge rd
to shep bush with family to music hall..now bbc
theatre........lunchtimes bbc tv..we went down to famous shep bush
mkt....ribbons material..all sorts there............. ... more >>
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by Clare (Member 10264576) on 4-Sep-2011
Yvonne - mum remembers George
well - I've suggested she has a look at this site as she can then get
involved in the message board herself. Out of interest, do you ever have
any reunions?
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2011
love to your mum.......yes
reunions..last couple yes norwood green fete...member phylis kindly has
table for us.labelled....canopy chairs tea stall.....had great natter
look photos...couple there last month came july 9th.who live
locally.their kids liked it..arena all day......their.family long time
southall....denis enjoys every yr..phylis loves to see us....janice
hopes she can come 2012..len lives
near wants to....tony and I hope to go 2012....plenty parking easy and
can go on grass also over far side.birds prey arena..dog show scots
pipes..lots music dance...josie jimmy june loved it.they brought
photos..some had maps books southall etc......flower show in
hall..church open young mum vicar is so nice..took photos of all in side
church..tea biscuits..one yr they had model trains....plough yr1200 pub
low beams gt garden.........so keep it free you hubby mum and all
...see you.......dormers should do reunion for demolish 1934 school..but
time to get there..my class 2 girls would go..if time...reunions on
friends reunited at schools..and some rugby .football club people
southall get together.......hope your mum can put message on
here.....later on can get you to see all our photos people put
on.....too far for many members to go..although they would like
to....everybody lives far from southall......now..and america newzealand
france we have dear members on these pages.... ... more >>
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by Clare (Member 10264576) on 8-Sep-2011
Ron, yes Uncle Mike does know you
and was quite excited that you had made contact. Please mail me @
mail@inabag.co.uk and i'll give you details. Regards. Clare
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by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 8-Sep-2011
Thank you Yvonne for the prompt as I would not have looked at the board till this afternoon.
Have Emailed Clare.Ron
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 8-Sep-2011
Clare I sent e`mail to the following address but it failed, mail@inabag.com.uk
Please repeat address.
RON
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2011
so pleased help...good..have
lovely time....pauline tony has just said bbc htreat may have to cut
free 9 channel bbc4....he read..must have missed that bit of
reading......oh no...so much gd on it..historian lady tonight waterloo
bridge penny to walk over 1817 at first...lovely london parts....hayley
westerham gorgeous newzealand girletc concerts so good there,,,,really
do hope they cut lots other
rubbish...keep bbc4.....bbc walks canal rail etc...all
bbc4..freeview.....madelaine barry cox filbey you ask photos..can give
you the google to type.....let us know..you are not on friends reunited
for trinity rd so cant send you email..automatic...there,....,roads
schools.etc southall memories.....1940s 50s of barry...... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Sep-2011
Ron - the e-mail address Clare gave you was: mail@inabag.co.uk. You have used mail@inabag.com.uk
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 8-Sep-2011
Thank you for prompting Ron for me. Hello Ron - yes, its- mail@inabag.co.uk Clare
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 9-Sep-2011
Thank you all for putting me right.
The most intresting item in the address I used was I had not only put com but also au. no wonder it came back!
Regards Ron
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Sep-2011
Join the club Ron. I find I am using the keys Control and + more these days, and that's with my glasses on!! Regards Pauline
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Sep-2011
Yvonne - I agree with you that it
would be a dreadful shame if the free Channel 9 BBC4 was axed. Although
I am not on this channel, I would personally really miss it. As you
say, there are a lot of wonderful historical programmes and concerts and
music on there as well as canal walks and matters of interest. Like
you, there are a few programmes I would prefer to be axed!
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Sep-2011
I've just thought Yvonne, that a lot of BB4 programmes are available on BBC4's i-player.
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Sep-2011
good idea yes i player use bbc on
computer....film .etc that sort of think...tony says aloud so much time
use broadband...then if go over limit time...have to pay extra
money..they charge you extra at the regular bill.....but use film
sometimes on computer so good lucky to have it....daily bragg bbc2 is
good films of 40s 50s etc..6.30 pm....bbc2
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 12-Sep-2011
Just wanted to tell you all we've
found Raymond and my dad's cousin has spoken to him this morning! Thank
you all so much for your help and suggestions - Clare
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2011
well done clare...so pleased //was it ron trying to get you email..problem
- Re: Does Anyone Remember Raymond Winter?
by Clare (Member 10264576) on 12-Sep-2011
Yvonne. So pleased. Yes, I've
received a mail from Ron now so hopefully all ok. Uncle Mike was
excited to learn Ron was trying to make contact with him. Hopefully the
start of many late night trips down memory lane, and you never know,
perhaps some new adventures - I hear Ron, Mike and Ray who's surname
escapes me but a very tall man, had quite a few adventures in the past!
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MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 28-Aug-2011
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I've just been showing my grandchildren the FRONT PAGE of the Middlesex
County Times dated August 27 1955. I have cherrished this newspaper
for the last 56 years. My family are featured due to the fact that
they made CHAIN MAIL from string for films...listed films are the BLACK
KNIGHT, THE BLACK PRINCE & KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE.
Whilst showing my grandchildren the paper I realised that there
is also a feature on the front page stating that the MARTINWARE
FOUNTAIN was recently erected in the Lily Pond at the Manor House. A
request was made by MR E L BRISTOLL for a plaque to be placed near the
foiuntain to commemorate a local genius.
I have looked at this paper so many times over the years but failed to notice this article before. Chris x ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Aug-2011
glad you noticed chris...I went
to the collection martin at pitsanger ealing museum....yr2000 around
that time......several roms glass cabinets..full.....wonderful...and
fireplace they made victorian tiles.......in large glass front was the
fountain ...it said was damaged abit at manor hse and brought to the
museum...looked ok...most of it there ok.........very
ornate..........photos manor hse family
1913 kids playing there before council took over...on our photo
boards............pitsanger had breakin 2007/8 so all taken off
site...no money yet poss for council to pay for secure to display
again.......such huge value now..genious.they were...buried havelock by
1923..men........seen your films at tv many times recently digital as
well....think of your gdad chain mail....marvellous....1955 wish we
could see the pages...great show gkids..lovely..........happy bank
holiday weekend...ealing library has issues going
back...................gazette can be lovely 40s 50s of local nice
things..... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Aug-2011
on tv last week digital freeview
lady 50s..film chain mail..also knitted it in thick wool and spray
painted silver...probably for all the long distance extras..alan ladd in
other film...pauline..your flynn....nice site photo his mum tasmania
1940...robin hood
etc.google....errolflynnfilms...adventures..downunder....photo fountain
mr meads ourboards 17....39.....131...manor gardens..dutch style sunken
gardens areas elmhedges...elm topiary..mulberry tree said planted by
henry 8th...1912 photo our board44.scaribrick family children in grass
at manor hse they lived there 1898.to.1913 council bought it........mock
tudor wc in shrubbery manor hse.photo there........1943 they had
emergency water tank....3 rink bowls..tennis..croquet..800 sq ft
coldframes nursery 20000 plants annually..gt flower beds...quiet
walk...now huge plastic playground crowds....1890 orchards.wrenns 1500
to awsiter 1572 city merchant..to 1821 coat arms above fire...to welch
to thompson....bailiff cottage grounds catholic mass barn...aviary brit
foreign birds..gold carp....other nice photos ..general ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-Sep-2011
You mentioned "Middlesex County
Times". Does it still exist?? I live in S. Sussex now and have done
since 1976. It was known simply as "The Local Paper" at the
newsagents (Douglas's in Hanwell) as a kid.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Sep-2011
is interesting in google
keith....ealing broadway local history library has copies all..or on
film to use there...says middlesex county times 1866 to 1974.mainly
northolt greenford ealing perivale....but including southall 1923 to
1974.........then they have middlesex county times southall edition 1954
to 1974.......they have west middlesex gazette southall 1923 to
1954............they have local gazette
now to current issue..........it is sold comes out wednesdays...office
was ruislip times building 20 yrs ago...but last many years moved to
bakers rd uxbridge.......separate gazettes sold now for each
town...hayes..southall..greenford...ealing..uxbridge....wednesdays in
door and free piles at estate agents...the leader local paper similar
articles.to gazette.free in the door ...different issues for the same
different towns.............on line gazette has most articles there free
in google on line...best wishes to you and yours from tony and I....... ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Sep-2011
Thank you Yvonne.
When l did my paper round in Hanwell, it was quite popular, but I read
the papers as I went around and it seemed to contain more "West"
Middlesex news (Hayes, Uxbridge etc) than our Greenford/Ealing area.
It was quite a heavy paper because of all the advertising, but my
parents stopped buying it mid-'60s and I expect they were not the only
ones. I think the early '60s was when
many of the Middlesex communities lost their own identities. In the
'50s we regularly used to cycle to Heathrow Airport to see the planes
after school from north HAnwell via the 3 Bridges, Tentelow Lane and
Cranford, but it would be madness for a 10 year old to do that now. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2011
they have lost lot readers local
paper for several yrs....recent times..it is expensive and start of free
paper in the door.must be 1970s start leader free paper.....people read
the free paper similar to the gazette...schools advertise for stafff in
free leader more read that...and dearer for them to put in the
gazette.......gazette similar articles each local town....pile of ealing
hanwell actongazette
also..in tesco sainsbury weekly....retro by gates is on line free
read.....30 yrs or more he has been doing local history articles...with
rickes....with librarian oates local history library
ealing.......uxbridge local history library is good also...articles 100
yr olds...60 wedding photos celebrations......raf uxbridge..lots nice
articles weekly......on line collection archive articles is nice
read....I read all the mr munday historian local history for 40yrs in
hounslow....feltham..cranford....local paper...hounslow
chronicle...great articles of mr munday free on line.....he is in his
late 80s now........yes heavy huge centre wad on motors....take that out
and paper is lighter to read..huge wad of advert loose sheets..but boy
bike not really much today...collect weeks milk paper with weekly
supermkt shoppping at weekend....job adverts and local tree plumbing
workers adverts etc.in it also.........wrote to munday..because tonys
family 1800s1900s bedfont hounslow and heathrow are munday..but he could
not quite see geneology ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Sep-2011
Yvonne, I am sure you are right,
free papers would have killed off the County Times. Also, with T.V.,
people took less interest in what was going on all around them. Clubs
and societies atrophied away as people just stayed in and watched the
TV., which they found more comfortable than joining in things or taking
any interest in local news. I think the 15 year period from about
1955-1970 saw more
change than we'd ever experienced in this country before, OR since.
Peoples lifestyles turned completely around as the country changed from a
community based society to a consumer based one. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2011
the local weekly paper still has
weddings..babies born.....anniversaries...we were down chichester areas
summer...often pick up local paper from estate agent pile when holiday
around country.....nice read ..interesting...but huge rain.going east
off bognor day..so not get to arundel again....photos 40s..items on our
boards from our local history visits weald open air and
amberley..emsworth..nice beaches
.jane austen.fishbourne..gt holiday..portsmouth london rd devil punch
bowl just before tunnel opened...lifetime never wasted good money on
national papers...library work often read telegraph etc..but computer
now people use fill in info news gaps with computer news reuters
etc...tv news and documenteries all visual now..brave cameramen ... more >>
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 3-Sep-2011
Been busy with grandkids this
week so just catching up. re Knitting chain mail My husbands mother used
to knit this they lived in Grove Terrace No3.
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Sep-2011
Sandy-What was the surname of your in-laws at No.3 Grove Terrace, and when were they there?
It is possible I knew them-I lived in North Road 1934-1954
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 3-Sep-2011
Sandy...........my family lived
at 5 Grove Terrace. My parents employed several local housewives to knit
the chain mail, they were all glad of a few extra shillings a week. I
know your husbands family very well, I left Grove Terrace in 1958 but
my parents kept the shop in North Road open until 1973. They were there
for appx 40 years Love to you all.......Chris x
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Sep-2011
Thanks Chris-I should have remembered.
Sandy-Leslie Nelhams was a close friend of mine for many years. They
were a big family-I remember Leslie's younger sister Pauline.
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 4-Sep-2011
I am married to Charlie Nelhams
Les Jim & Pauline my inlaws. Remember the cottages went there for
the last time when Mum died.
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 4-Sep-2011
I remember the landlord had
fitted a bathroom in just before she died never did get to use it.
Charlie remembers the bath in the Kitchen and outdoor toilet. Used to
be friends with Johnie spencer got our first tele from hime when we
married in1963 walked round the room for ages trying to get a signal He
was best man to Jim. George died July last year in Newzealand.
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 4-Sep-2011
Hello Sandy.........Charlie must
remember my brother Ron (from 5 Grove Terrace). Ron died a few years
ago, he went to Australia in 1960. Ask Charlie if he remembers the shelf
he put up for my Mum in the cupboard under the stairs! When he'd
finished she filled it with all her pyrex & glassware and then
CRASH, the whole lot fell down - she still laughs about it now (she's a
young 97). Chris xx
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Sep-2011
Hello Sandy,
I have vivid memories of meeting Leslie on "The Green" on
North Road, often with a small girl(Pauline) and a younger boy. This may
have been George or Charlie. This would have been late thirties- 1945.
(I am 83 on Tuesday next). It is likely that I saw Charlie
occasionally-unlikely he will remember me! I lived at No74 North Road,
next but one to Sellars the Newsagents. Please say hello to Charlie for me. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2011
happy birthday mike tuesday next
many happy returns of the day to you.love from tony and
yvonne....sunshine sunday couple weeks ago..we drove to the green north
ave for the first time there since I cut through there and up school
passage for weekly saturday morning pictures...has not changed much have
put photos on our boards...telephone box still there opposite with the
plough pub.....benches on the
green....shrubbery ivy cottages...school passage dorothy cottages row
and maisonette cottages....1851 plaque on north rd school...black
railings...same windows along front...pinnacle point like pigeon coop at
that historic victorian roof...playground out back.........rows of
shops at each area off the green....church hall..top of kingsley ave..3
alleys to my infants junior school dormers.....dormers senior 2 huge
tall cranes..new modern building ..opens sept 2012 1400 students new
entrance by bungalows allemby...old 1934 of dad and aunt pulls down may
2012.olympics yr and queen diamond 60.since her father died...tony a
feltham hounslow lad went down mr meads author and sandy chris grove
terrace..he had never known southall.........but his gran and dad was
from bedfont..1800s date workers cottages..sunny sept indian summer last
heat pushes up from caribean and africa..so blue skies birthday to you
mike..ytxxxx ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 5-Sep-2011
Yvonne-Thanks fot the birthday
wishes from Tony and yourself. Your walk was certainly a walk down
memory lane. One of my classmates at North Road lived along School
Passage-Desmond Dear-he had an older brother, Beresford.
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2011
yes just that row of cottages on
the left as you go along school passage to the high st.dorothy villas
1890 maisonete villas...lovely 1851 on wall of north rd
school........tony went down grove terrace with me but sat in car
opposite grove hse number 77..listening to cricket on radio...ha.....I
dashed up to shrubbery took photos...ends with big police
station...photos of rows shops..the green on our
boards.......my dad aunt the 2 youngest of nans babies born 1921 and
1925..so babies good of the 20s....lived healthy lives retired..worked
all their lives........we nearly lost both as children...whooping cough
dolly.......dad age 4 fell in canal brother got him out and peritonitus
was touch and go.......nan gave birth 7 babies old navvy labourers
cottages by old oak pub 2/6 week 1914..common southall rec.......mrs
ayres old lady next door helped her birthing.....but told not to have
last 2 as prolapse...I slept with her west ave she still suffered
it....heavy washing in old copper..lifting etc......worked ticklers jam
many yrs............they all walked to dormers school...home for lunch
eldest sister gave them bread jam or breadpudding or bread
dripping........north rd sunny day took great photos..my aunt lived
north ave her kids waked to north rd school,,,,.cousin greenford ave 5
of hers walked north rd.school..past shackleton hall our weddings
receptions.....cheers birthday have drink with us...... ... more >>
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by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 5-Sep-2011
I was pleased that Yvonne wrote
about school passage ,and the little cottages that led down to the high
street ,A family named Perks lived in the first one.They had four or
five girls and they used to play in Shrubbery Road with Phyl and me. I
am still in touch with the O Sullivan family that lived in Dothory
Villas.Iremeber the name of nelhams from Grove Terrace ,you mention the
phone box opposite the
Plough I used to phone a boyfriend from there most nightsHe was in the R
N . I also learn to ride a bike going round and round that green
falling off so many times .I did master in the .Bet Phyl will remember
these times and have a laugh ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2011
lovely smile sheila your
bike....dorothy villas still looks nice 2 weeks ago,,,,quiet
street......school playground entrance opposite.......bbc2 tv 6.30 daily
lovely 20 episodes ..today evacuees....they talk of times to melvyn
brage...40000civilians total died...blitz times...........shrubbery
looked lovely in sunshine....quiet afternoon....ivy villas it said on
the 6th one along.........building work
over back.from demolition....77 north rd grrove hse looked neat listed
building..victorian now child centre...conservatory extension at
back.......sweet shop with window front all dark brown paint board..so
it is storage place entrance at back........telephone box raised a
chuckle...lovely notes from you my dear..........benches on green
now........plough looks same..........open front across pavement large
area veg salad.....that row couple shops after the plough
there..............church hall built 1930 still there...........last
night proms saturday and strictly dancing back...should be
great...................would be nice if we ever got invited back in our
old home few yrs later for nostalgia..but bound to be
different............mr meads our southall author of 1906 to 1982 lived
far 1st one grove terrace...........photos on our boards...all plus
other nice ones ... more >>
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by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 6-Sep-2011
Yes those villas were lovely. I
used to know a girl that lived in one them, Janet Mussard, went to
school with her at Southall Grammar.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2011
still look neat today.terrace
row....southall grammar on google had couple of reunions..photos...they
went in southall park..the ruins castle playwall of the fired mansion
house.of dr boyd asylum....is on our photos.......reunion went in holy
trinity.year 2000 and I think in more recent yrs........we were all
baptied holy trinity...and weddings there lovely archway door trees
grounds in photos.....like
the wedding photo gran of kate duchess cambridge...harrisons of
bankside canal terrace..and goldsmith of clarence st......grammar is
villiers high school now..modern photos on google.........manor hse huge
money has renew work there now by english heritage..st anselm still
neat next door...... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2011
dear mike len..............your
dads work on the buses.......dont suppose you ever heard them speak of
george richard wingrove bus conductor 1937 age 37 approx........of
heston so perhaps 120 bus..........thought would try london transport
archive chiswick huge depot so hounslow southall.hanwell garages..if
they have union pension records.or anything.....he is nans uncles
boy.....buried heston church...thankyou.....
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Sep-2011
Yvonne-the name of the bus conductor you mention rings no bells with me-sorry.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2011
thankyou mike...thanks so much
reply..kind of you...have put it for hounslow bus garage ..hounslow
site...thanks......many of us have been to local places of
interest..windsor a favourite saw queen mary unique amazing dolls
house..on tv monday night bbc.........tonight channel 5 8pm...denis and
all....good documentary tv war burma rail
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Sep-2011
Sandy-I have a recollection of Grove Terrace which msy ring a bell with Charlie or Pauline.
Early on in WW2, a fsmily moved in who had come from the east end
(possibly bombed out?) The family consisted of a mum, and six girls, the
eldest one being Winnie, dark hair,~14, and tough! Woe betide anyone
who attempted to bully her sisters. They didn't stay too long-may have
found accomodation back in the east end.
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Sep-2011
Sheila- I also learnt to ride a bike going round the Green-I lived at 74 North Road, right opposite the green.Happy Days!
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 12-Sep-2011
I can place were 74 was I
remember Joyce kimmins sheila Rose fred lovelock they all lived on the
block of houses just pass the paper shop Anderson and Pope You might be
younger than me Mich ael
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Sep-2011
Sheila-you are probably right! I
was 83 last Tuesday! I was nexr door but one to Sellars
newsagents-almost opposite The Plough.I remember Norma Amsden.
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 12-Sep-2011
Michael you were the other side
of north road to what I was thinking. Im 9yrs younger than you so
prehaps the people had changed you would have been a teenager and at
work when I was learning to ride the bike, It was a nice place to
live. I know it has all altered now ,and I have lived away for over
50yrs but Istill think of it as home. My parents moved to Ashford in
Kent with the London overspill in 1968. Imove to Thanet in the 80s . ... more >>
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2011
sheila mike...our photos green
and north rd...3 weeks ago..chap cycled past as took photo church hall
built 1930 on corner kingsley...so still bikes..my cousin married hiett
boy of kingsley 1956...reception shakleton hall..kids all played around
outside...then back in for musical chairs..4 bridesmaids pretty
dresses,,holy trinity weddings.....happy 92 birthday sheila..let us know
the month....congratulations...plough
on corner..on corner by it..now indian restaurant them pavement huge
spread of veg fruit stall then goes along to north ave.....we had nice
holiday kent and thanet...over to beach sheppey..rochester
castle..dickens...chatham museum....down to canterbury...know some
people at seaside resorts..whitstable.ramsgate..famous rickets museum of
the 30s in margate.huge deep sands ... more >>
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Sep-2011
No Yvonne, Sheila is 9 years younger than Michael. She's a mere 74 I think.
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2011
thanks thought seemed mistake..thanks for putting it right...good...
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 13-Sep-2011
Thank you Pauline for pointing
out that Im not 92 I was really worried when I read that . Your right I
m 74 .and in my head 18. its just when you look in the mirror that you
realise that you need ironing .
- Re: MARTINWARE FOUNTAIN - AUGUST 1955
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Sep-2011
Never mind Sheila, it's the really wonderful sense of humour that I enjoy on this super Southall Knowhere site of ours.
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general
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Aug-2011
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photos at board43.....adverts..40s 50s....parkers hygenic bakers.nan of
spring worked........dixon chemist photos lady margaret rd...abc minors
6d morning pictures...southall.....josie remembered metal teeth wave
hair......football 1957 godwin southall station...martin bubs spikes
pk...broadway wallpaper shop rogers papers..woolies labour
club....devils tunnel....thompson owned 3 horseshoes.....co ttage
right by odeon cinema uxb rd..gran hodges lived......more details with
photos...glad photos uxb hq.ops bunker has had nice
viewings......reunited site under places...left location...put greater
london....pubs there.memories people....white swan white hart uxbridge
rd...white lion..plough southall.........off greenford way..littern
hotel ..red lion .load hay....comments.....photos hanwell
etc....there...glad bletchley on tv today..flog it................ ... more >>
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Aug-2011
Dixsons chemist still going in L.M. RD.
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2011
thought you might recognise
it...advert says photographs developed there.....lady marg as we all
said open area 1921...says bert lake pig farm he died 1979 lady marg
rd.....says bulls bridge poultry pork.....says piggery island called
there.....canal photos details messages at each photo......1979 thank
goodness long time ago..riot southall...lester shoe shop..nationwide
building society along..broadway
and outside southall pk.photos riot.1979.........2 of our members
family worked on dragons roof palace cinema,thornton grandad drove the
van carrying the dragons..best wishes denis..thanks.....kindest
regards..... ... more >>
- Re: general
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Aug-2011
I enjoyed the photos on
Southallboard43 and several of them brought back memories for me. My
sister used to live in the council houses in Allenby road, which used to
back on to Cranleigh Park. We used to hear all the children shouting
and laughing in the park, but never saw them. It reminded me that I used
to walk from Southall station with my two kids and the big pram to her
house! In the photo of
Spikes Bridge park, you mentioned Spikes Bridge Yvonne. I recently
looked up in a 2000 diary of mine to find a birthday date, and the page
flicked on to when my brother David took me to Southall to visit our old
haunts. I had written in my 2000 diary that Spikes Bridge iron bridge
had gone, so it had been replaced then, and the old iron one we all knew
as kids had gone. The photo of the old mangle with the two wooden
rollers looked very much like the one we had in our passage at Northcote
Avenue. When I used to do the washing when my mum was convalescing, it
was hard work carrying the thick wet flannel sheets from the sink in the
scullery to the mangle and having to fold them properly to feed through
the rollers. It's a breeze nowadays with the advent of the washing
machine. ... more >>
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2011
oh yes we folded through
rollers..and through again......glad you liked.photos.paddlimg pool
gone...allemby beehive pink now....long walk yes..spikes so gd info
thanks sorry your fall that day...best wish....hughenhaut hse of disrali
on tv today..1990 more war info.secret said ..as photos there hitler to
take out site and dambusters etc...reconnaisance 100staff studied there
high wycombe....bletchley also chosen near london..middx ... more >>
- Re: general
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 14-Aug-2011
Pauline, The council houses in
Allenby Rd backed on to Jubilee Park not Cranleigh Park which was by the
canal nearer to Spikes Bridge Park I believe.
- Re: general
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Aug-2011
Thanks Dilys. Trust me to get it
wrong. Yes, when I looked on the map of Southall, Cranleigh Park was
quite a way from Allenby Road, but the houses that backed on to it
looked the same. At least I can tell my sister it was Jubilee Park. Her
memory is worse than mine.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Aug-2011
Sad 68yr old died Ealing.
- Re: general
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 22-Aug-2011
I was a member of the ABC
Dominion cinema Southall won a competition for making a Christmas card
& won a brush & comb set I was only 7 the trouble was i had 8
brush & comb sets for Christmas so did not real appreciate the prize
Ha! Ha!
- Re: general
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 22-Aug-2011
Does anyone remember the
Coronation Party in Portland Road it took in Osterley park Rd Grosvenour
Rd, We all squashed into a friendly family in Portland Road to watch
it on their TV as it rained on & off we went to the British Legeion
Hall behind the Dominion to finish of the party.
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Aug-2011
good to hear your memories 1953
coronation sandy,tiny screen...clarence st did party for kates wills
wedding as she family came from there 1906 onwards...,,,photo brit
legion ..featherstone rd..dominion..working mens
club..hospital..havelock.. library .manor grounds all on photo boards
and 44..think next one....in google....flickr southall board photostream
all yrs..board43 backwards.......3 times have reported today to delete the silly top one of page ... more >>
- Re: general
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 22-Aug-2011
have just discovered this
brilliant site. Have many memories. The bad smogs we had I remember my
dad taking me to the Gem picture house at the top of our rd. (Osterley
Pk Rd) and gradually we the screen got mist aventually we had to leave
as we could not see the screen when we got outside it was so thick we
actually walked past our house No27
- Re: general
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 22-Aug-2011
Does anyone remember living in
Osterley Park Rd. 1943 to 1959 we lived opposist the Mulenger family
(the fishmongers nr Featherstone rd) I remember his two daughters
getting married they had a rare double wedding I sat on our front gate
watching with awe!!!
- Re: general
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 22-Aug-2011
what's with all the little red flags?
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Aug-2011
Hi Sandy welcome, go to the
bottom of this page go to previous page then back to this
page flags should gone.
- Re: general
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Aug-2011
Thank you Sandy your mention
of the British Legion has bought back memories of Geo.
Wimpeys Xmas kids parties we used to go to in the 1950.
- Re: general
by peter hillary (Member 10254122) on 23-Aug-2011
There was a very good fish and
chip shop on the corner of Osterley Park Road opposite Southall
Hospital,the greengrocer I used to help as a lad delivered potatoes
there
- Re: general
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 23-Aug-2011
Yes the fish & chip shop at
top of Osterley Park Rd. was always very busy especially on Saturdays.
Sometimes you could que for over half an hour.I remember people coming
from the other side of Southall (lady Margaret Rd area) which was no
mean feat those days not many private cars around then. I beleive there
was a Basket weaver had a place around the back of the shops we used to
watch him weaving them. Also the fresh fish shop round the corner used to see them deliver the blocks of ice. No fridge freezers then!!!! ... more >>
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2011
they all talk of your fish chip
shop...paper shop next door...steve roberts pat shakespeare lived
kingston rd then remember it..frith photos memories site
southall.........southall firms jobs there if nrp printers...is
remembered there............gem the oldest.1912 electric theatre then
1929 the century......so old nickname bug ...now penthouse flats..was
music place also.......kept architecture front.........fog
got in mist screen.......27 yes top rd by hospital....phylis member
here aunt uncle lived along opposite library....martin pottery ernest
ham paintings of southall streets 1930s.were displayed there.....double
wedding perhaps st john or anselm catholic church and
school....there..featherstone rd school..1943 your parents remembered
war..regina road bad bombing....shelters etc....gas works and
targets......maypole factory jobs..etc....several members here worked
southall green firms..all yrs ... more >>
- Re: general
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 23-Aug-2011
I used to play with a friend over
the Dump at bottom of Road Near the new cemetary as it was then called.
Used to find all kinds of interesting junk over there Old hand grenade
cases (we used to think they would blow up!!! Old reels of film from
Southall Film studioes You could hear the Greyhounds barking on race
nights at the dog track. I was born in my Aunts house in windsor Road
33 it is now part of a bypass .
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2011
yes the greyhounds havelock,,,did
it end which yr after the war...len was telling us......many of us
north southall....again shrapnel etc finds.....bombing around gas works
and factories...munition works........new hortus..many of us families
havelock.graves.........maypole marg factory bridge rd bottom your
rd....top lock glade rd......where did your dad work...many of us
southall firms worked.........havelock
pub now betting office.............3 tuns now hotel......king prussia
pub victory pub now hotel............railway hotel pub now glassy
pub...........palace cinema closed this yr........odeon on uxbridge rd
now lidl supermarket............ ... more >>
- Re: general
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 23-Aug-2011
My father worked as a dustman he
was air raid warden at begining of the war then joined the RAF as ground
crew he was with bomber comand when they bomed the dams and I was told
he went over after the raid to see & film the damage.I like to think
in the film The Dambusters at the end of the film they show real
footage of the destruction my dad was actualy in that plane? he remained
a dustman just after
the war then he went to work for the S.E.B on road working before going
into the stores where he stayed until retirement. He had an allotment
near Havelock Rd. and entered many of the vegetable shows He won the
Buckingham Cup a couple of times I know he was very proud of his
achievements. The people next door to my Aunts in Windsor rd were the
Yules and the other side The Peabodys My Aunts Name was Cresswell. ... more >>
- Re: general
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 23-Aug-2011
My mother worked for the Maypole
when she left school at 14 she met Albert Pooly and I think they walked
out together for a short time when they broke up he joined the Army and
the rest is History. i.e. The Vengence of Private Pooly. Mum also worked
for the jam factory down Brent Road and did cleaning for the off
licence near the allotments Mr & Mrs Pugh were the owners then.I
contracted Scarllett
Fever when I was six and had seven weeks in St. John's fever Hospital
Uxbridge It was awfull no contact with my family only through a glass
window !! ... more >>
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Aug-2011
mr pugh was on short page of this
site....click southall word at top..........pooley yes we have whole
page on him back a bit...len knew him..he attended memorial every 11
nov..retired lived up by canal roads..beaconsfield way....lens son
delivered him a drink..evening...his relative pooley is on the short
single page off our site here....nan worked ticklers jam many yrs...aunt
worked kearly tongs jam
biscuits.charge hand supervisor......dad worked engineer planes heston
airport then onto heathrow to retire..............dambusters is
favourite film of many of us.....went to pennine chain up north we drove
through water where the planes practised..pub they had
there..........maypole my cousin gdad worked 40 yrs lived havelock
rd....huge havelock housing estate flats there now......bypass merrick
rd.....good in google...put southall film studio society loads
there........... ... more >>
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Aug-2011
pauline...everybody.......lots
reading on greenford church site..photos..bridge hotel..western
ave...peter dormer.altar boy now australia..saw load hay pub at river
war hit.war demolished..he went down to get parachute string shrapnel
etc.303 polish squad of northolt ;he saw tip bombing away..so
clever.......peter.lived flats oposite granada cinema saw gracie fields
opening it 1937.closed 1966 tesco,,,gazette
now says expanding....photos litten tree pub hotel.KEITH.we lived there
1974 used it.........peter worked aec southall when making bren gun
carriers......greenford new church built 1939 opened 1941 wood beams
from canada..queen mum photo 1941 medway estate greenford with father
harris....bad bombing.....etc etc ... more >>
- Re: general
by josie (Member 10235627) on 24-Aug-2011
Hello Yvonne..The Litten Hotel has gone (demolished)..looks like a Nursing Home has been built there..regards Josie.
- Re: general
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 24-Aug-2011
My Mums name was Hilda Leech & Dad was John Leech anyone remember them ?
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Aug-2011
thanks josie yes read had gone
did not know.home there now..thanks will tell tony we enjoyed drink in
nice pub garden......best wishes to you...nice photos greenford years on
southallboard44@yahoo.com..kindest regards to jimmy june....remember
guitars window music shop was opposite little parade shops...carnival
fete ravenor pk was good..local dance group did can can was
clever.........have reported
over 6 times silly top bogus....he is doing it everywhere..hounslow
knowhere also....but they dont delete or cancel memmbership... ... more >>
- Re: general
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Aug-2011
Hi Sandy - Although I didn't know
your parents, my parents were friends with a Dick & Amy Leech, who
lived at the top of Northcote Avenue. I wondered if there was any
connection with your family?
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Aug-2011
and mr mrs pugh ..detail in
google says he died feb 2011...of 171 beaconsfield rd then.message from
wife and son........mr pooley was elderly at cherry ave up by
canal..hayes bridge..think it said his ashes taken to paradis cemetery
france of his extremely sad war story...........fever hospital..kingston
lane uxbridge rd hillingdon by uxbridge.........now the big nhs general
hospital..maternity hospital...........uxbridge cottage hospital park lane ..then moved to harefield rd......photo on our board.........best wishes ... more >>
- Re: general
by Sandy (Member 10264317) on 24-Aug-2011
High Pauline the two people you
mentioned would not have been any relation to my Dad he came from
Birmingham have done tha family tree and certainly they would not have
been related but thanks anyway. Also Yvone the Mr pugh who died in 2011
would not have been the same man as he moved I think to wales about 1957
when he retired.
- Re: general
by josie (Member 10235627) on 26-Aug-2011
Glassy Junction has closed.regards Josie.
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2011
thats surprise josie.......they
closed 3 horseshoe while ago then reopened it....so..have to
see....thanks......2 hug high cranes dormers..boards up new entrance
allemby rd..security gates most tend to put now...swipe card on way in
swipe card for school library and attendence.......old 1934 building
they demolish may 2012 .dad aunt went there.then.........new build opens
2012 sep 1400 students
- Re: general
by josie (Member 10235627) on 26-Aug-2011
Hi Yvonne..My neighbour told me that the owner of
Glassy Junction apparently had a dream telling
him to close it so he did..he also owns The
Bee Hive..hope you both have a great weekend.regards Josie. ... more >>
- Re: general
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Aug-2011
When we were kids, the Glassy
Junction was always referred to as "The Glass House". I'm sure though,
that when we danced with some of the Welsh boys at the Working Men's
club in Southall, they used to say they were lodging at "The Railway
Arms". Was it called that before the "Glass House"?
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2011
yes pauline many yrs the
railway.pub...bottom of station..the rail came into southall
1837.......many windows all around that corner,,,,nickname
glassy...happy weekend everybody..thanks josie....funny dream....ha...oh
owns beehive pink painted................photos all on board 44
back...opposite dormers school ancient gate entry,gate photos the
greenfield cul de sac dwellings etc.......north road etc...............22..21..24..boards have added to...... ... more >>
- Re: general
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Aug-2011
On our Southallboard 44, would
that "Greenford Hotel" have been near to the Western Avenue roundabout
where I worked at the Cow & Gate Milk Depot at Greenford. I'm sure
we had a lovely Christmas dinner there when I was all of fourteen! It
was probably the first "posh" dinner I had been to, especially as it was
in 1945.
- Re: general
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Aug-2011
yes......still open.....by cow
gate western ave..after1975 they started build flyover..underpass...took
yrs ,,,huge fly over...large roundabout under...poor tony back
then......ages to get through daily tail back traffic...went on so
long...ok now....but they all suffered long time..building.huge
amount..just about slip down to greenford church and oldfield lane..tiny
slip road.......western ave there and target roundabout.northolt always on news traffic rush hours...all pub s etc on the photo boards interiors too........ ... more >>
- Re: general
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Aug-2011
Thanks Yvonne, and I also hope
you and Tony have a great weekend. Come to that, I hope everybody else
has a good weekend as well
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Fire fighting-WW2
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Aug-2011
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I have just come across a Certificate of Proficiency I was given alomg
with other pupils of Southall Tech,dated 21Feb 1944. This was to certify
profiency in Incendiary Bomb Control. This was presented after doing a
one day course, involving actual incendiary bombs, and attacking the
fire with a Stirrup Pump.
The certificate was issued by Borough of Southall Civil Defence, and signed by, among others,the Chief Warden and Controller GD Pargiter ... more >>
- Re: Fire fighting-WW2
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Aug-2011
thats marvellous to have
certificates after all theses yrs......in google..1939 opened greenford
grammar....reunion and they said during war...the students went and got
incendiaries dealt with at times when that corner greenford got it
bad,,,munitions factories and northolt airport near.......2008 lot of
them gathered served tea cake by today students..chat photos all on
google.....2008 the deco tower
front school bulldozed....new photo new modern computer etc buildings
on our board42 new entrance lady marg rd..like dormers to have allemby
rd sept 2012 new security entrance....mornington rd greenford close near
allemby rd accounts bombs on google.. frith photos memories..bbc
peoples war memories greenford/southall..and cuckoonites site
hanwell.....my aunts partner came from swales age16 1920s.to escape his
family coal miners...london rd to brentford worked pub.did apprentice
carpenter..lived chiswick was firefighter 6 yrs war...and factory
worker..made many items own furniture at home clever and very nice
person..... ... more >>
- Re: Fire fighting-WW2
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Aug-2011
mike and some of you have said of
villiers rd and areas there..scouts etc......short page here.the other
page of this site.......infants school in hut shed 1950 back garden
house number 15 villiers.....1950s.brown roberts teachers.......yr 2000
was still there.......comments from kath leonard.colin laidlaw phil
marris..
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North Road Press - The Cotters
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by Mike Hayler (Member 10264019) on 6-Aug-2011
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HI, I am doing some research for my uncle (Roy Prichard) who now lives
in New Zealand, and I am hoping somebody here may be able to help me.
He used to work for NRP when he was 16/17 (so I guess around 1955), and
has been back several times and enquired about the fate of NRP and the
Cotters (Tony & Jimmy). Todate he has not been able to find anybody
who could give him any information.
Can anybody out there please help us?
Thank you.
Mike Hayler. ... more >>
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Aug-2011
only north london press in
google......north rd southal middx...is road off high st long
history...houses..little parade shops..southall high st is at one end
with history of king printers..etc..press..... southall local paper
there..became gazette.....what is north rd press....any info...to
say.....dates etc...info.....at colindale archive free to public..the
british newspaper press library is at colindale north london archive...all......in google..part of british library....main archive of country ... more >>
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Aug-2011
is it a printers....or a newspaper.press
or..some other press
archive addresses etc press.. newspapers email..brit library.................newspaper@bl.uk
north road southall...1955....historic north road primary
school......senior schools today have a press and
newsletter........factories southall hayes.middlesex.uk..what address
where what was he..what was his job.....newspaper press info..tel....02074127353...is something google called north london press ... more >>
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Mike Hayler (Member 10264019) on 6-Aug-2011
HI Yvonne, Thanks for the replies. Have already gone done the Google route, and have a visit to the BL scheduled for next week.
North Road Press were based at 1 Clifton Road, Norwood Green (I think they were a printing company).
Companies house had a NRP which went in to voluntary liquidation in the
early '90's, but not with this address. Also got one with the same
company number based in Ireland.
Was just looking for some local knowledge as to what may have happened to them.
Regards,
Mike. ... more >>
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Aug-2011
are yes..the little more info now
might help jog people...so school 1950....featherstone and clifton
rd....schools.....colindale newspapers yr now been putting records on
line....willings reference book has all info papers and press....as you
say printers......british brary on line and telephone...often visited
euston...2 mins from kings cross station.....colindale section many yrs
going to boston spa the
hd office of BL....none of the peoples names you give on friends
reunited site.....no nrp...on site..under places..ref
workplaces........schools are there......good luck we all know norwood
green..norwood rd well...clifton rd and the king st shops...best wishes
your family and newzealand....wonder why they called themselves north
rd...norwood rd or clifton...but......high st by north rd...20th century
had many yrs the printers..king and think arnold or
something.....became the southall newspaper at high st..opposite north
rd...printers......lots small firms down towards the canal...mill
there..had famous haigh picture prints. picture framers.......employees
lived clifton rd houses....earlier 20th century.....your gdad would
remeber the southall carnivals along by clifton...up regina..king st to
southall park.....if he lived norwood green way..several of our members
live or had family living that way.....best wish ... more >>
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Aug-2011
google says.1955 time the famous
many yrs john king printers..local paper..with hutchings.........bought
out...........high st southall...local paper...king at uxbridge...local
paper....which originated bucks gazette.............brit lib may not
have so much local as borough ealing local history public library ealing
broadway jonathan oates librarian many yrs.........he keeps southall
green to norwood green
area seperate photos all info...then has north southall high st as other
amount...lots stuff and his own gt knowledge.....he has collection all
printed ...all local newspapers going back yrs............open
evenings..weekends also....then perhaps printers of leaflets papers
etc......clifton rd houses staff of haigh picture printers......lovely
prints.and they were famous for their framing...down by canal
way.....used old mill opposite wolf pub at canal..norwood rd.......they
are on google.........couple of our lovely members lived clifton
rd....and near...jean edwards stirling don hemmings...of that age those
yrs.......the well known story of the donkey...ron brewer of those
streets there then............ ... more >>
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 7-Aug-2011
Hi there, on the subject of North
Road Press, I did work there as a trainee printer, and indeed it was at
1 Clifton Road. The name Roy Prichard rings a bell with me as well, did
he drive the delivery van?
Used to frequent the shop next door, run by a man called Bernard. As to what happened to the firm, can't help you there.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Aug-2011
miracle of this site 1950s and
people pop up...so pleased nrp.......why called north rd..1
clifton.....2 ends of road..adelaide rd. end or.....with norward green
rd..off ...and montague way and rd there with rec and feathers
school........what print perhaps poster leaflets etc....colin of your
name on short other page here villiers rd
infants......relative.perhaps,,,....,hayes...my dad worked 1936
printing house lane 75 yrs anniversery emi printed record covers...75
yr anniversery emi music.records...hayes mill..paper printing..near
canal....,,,.... ... more >>
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by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 7-Aug-2011
They printed almost anything apart from papers,I remember brothers Jimmy & Tony, and their Dad.
Regarding the short story you mentioned, that's my Brother, and also my Dad worked for EMI.
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Aug-2011
the other site to put out for
trace contact....if cotters family...is in google....are you an old face
southall....and good memories and contacts on frith photos site
southall...hayes ..memories....john cotter was ex principalof southall
tech..........died age 90 jan 30 2011....in wales......born
1921...english degree...../anthony john cotter age 70 living lymington
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Aug-2011
graham best wish...your comment
page back...wilmot coaches featherstone rd.you drove......in
google...flickr.wilmot southall..fml514B 1964 bedford sb5 harrington
crusade c41f....photo.s.coaches.......good wishes to you and
brother...all of us good memories coaching days.....perhaps to coast or
mystery trip...sing song...drinks in back...half way stop off....the old
narrow roads...my cousins husband
was a driver norman brook..and husband tonys uncle arthur
bricknell.......switch arrows you said had use of...etc...southall rec
pool used coaches..clubs etc.....down at featherstone coach firms many
yrs...... ... more >>
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by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 9-Aug-2011
Yvonne, Regarding Wilmots
Coaches, FML 514B I did drive that for a while, before I went on to the
52 seater with the four wheel steering. Boy did have fun with that going
round corners. Arrow Switches we did the contract, picking up workers
in the morning and taking them home again in the evening. American air
force contract, involved their schools and trips to Mildenhall, for
personnel going to and
from the States. And I was privileged to be able to take the famous
American Band around the country, to their various gigs. They were good
times. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Aug-2011
photo on our photos
board40........american airforce..always knew west ruislip base school
shop etc..families....but been reading south ruislip..victoria
road...hospital..families...etc..1950s....they used ruislip
lido.....gone now all big stores wicks..homebase etc.........raf
northolt nato..queens flight now....ruislip west gone houses
now...housing going on uxbridge raf site but keeping the bunker
ops room of churchill visit headquarters...girls doing the plan
map...coordinate..my cousins mum worked by watford..when her nephew in
the field phoned sight of nazi she contacted on to uxbridge...97 she is
now in canada... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Aug-2011
Whent in Uxbridge No 11 group bunker with Southall A.T.C 1956 was still secret then.
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Aug-2011
was so pleased we went...lots
local schools go to it every yr.....we went 7 yrs ago.......so
interesting..up in the gallery churchills red phone....sticks of
plotting table,,,,,bells,lights going on around walls...each
group..headquarters to organise....clever to get up...know they are
coming......will always keep it ...it has been open every
yr........steep steps down.....couple of the ladies came
on tv couple yrs ago anniversary...they chatted about all......glad you
went.....houses on the uxbridge airfield now........southruislip on the
eastcote side victoria rd..just for american.airforce.accomodation etc
1946 1950s 1960,,they were sad to close go back to america...lots on
google ruislip sites...they put comments memories ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Aug-2011
just seen google...raf uxbridge
bunker museum..you tube...very well done film...all on it and
guide.........fibre glass 303 polish hurricane......could be the one
they have moved to northolt now..spit model has always been
northolt........hillingdon hse 1700s uxbridge being kept.....lawrence
arabia uxbridge airfield...bader hospital there ali amputee legs..met
thelma at pantiles pub near...pantiles
shop centre mall and multi storie car pk now....king queen went couple
times...churchill 4 days before hse commons spoke speech never in field
human conflict so much owed by so many to so few.....on leaving having
thanked them for long shifts duty there....battle britain...many mumber
hurricans organised from hq,,less number spitfires.....still public
footpath through there now........2010 parade close....since 1910 and
all.... ... more >>
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Aug-2011
billy smart digit free tv 9....9pm tonight,,,hour....of southall pk...local...circus
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 9-Aug-2011
Denis- were you in 1846 ATC squadron
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Aug-2011
Yes Mike mid late 50s.
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Aug-2011
7.30.pm tonight dylis denis
tunnels dover bbc tv....we went twice is so good whole day so much
there...next week portsmouth...then shakespeare stratford......last
couple yrs new at dover castle...bright colours rooms interior tower..to
reconstruct..king living at castle.....on google..
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by Mike Hayler (Member 10264019) on 10-Aug-2011
Bringing this thread back to the original topic...
Yes, Graham he did used to drive for NRP.
I'll mention your name next time I speak to him.
Regards, Mike.
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Aug-2011
Re: 1846 ATC Squadron. Denis I was 10 years eaelier. CO was "Dickie" Downe
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 10-Aug-2011
Ok thx Mike.
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Aug-2011
Mike still got 1957 xmas party invite wiil look at name on it.
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Aug-2011
Thank you Yvonne watched most interesting.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Aug-2011
glad you liked dover
programme...we just got in in time....day out bletchley at last...so
much there very good.great tour...tony sale in google...whole lists all
his sites ..colossus enigma etc....so good.........sunshine lake...car
on grass just there handy.........4 lanes M1..then 3lanes..then long way
of centre roadwork....ok hour journey...but returned a5.pretty
fields.......1st time saw the grid
of milton keynes..so famous.layout.........great day out......best
wishes....model train hut....NPL where tony worked also in computer
section display there...........tony said 3D glasses were best ones very
good for film.........huts where all the women worked so hard...24 hr
shifts 365 days yr....gt achievements ...saved 10000s lives at
times....and gt achieve for dday and caen the panzers.......clever
mathmaticians and complete secret...well done to them......9000 worked
there...huge memorabilia..rooms....40s kitchen school
laundry..clothes..toys....medicines....shave etc
toiletries..............huge amount all...........huge room of
churchill.hundreds thousands items.......all 40s songs played....pigeons
war saved lives..........40s cinema there................007 ian
fleming room spies...........history computer..wireless radio etc..... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Aug-2011
mike....denis ...........put 1846
and all in google........and click pages at the bottom...several pages
on it all southall......friends reunited.....group...section....2
members 1960 ivor phillips..lauren tillett.....at centre hayes
bridge.......
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Aug-2011
Thanks tor 1846 Google, want
to go Bletchley Park myself, talk of m/ways took me 6 hours to
go South London to south Coast M25 again 30 ml tailbacks
closed until following day.
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Aug-2011
we flt sad on tv..m25 the othr
day...lorry went over ..closed till next day as well reigate......keep
fingers crossed all time.......we were lucky..but a5 was quite nice
..lovely countryside...harvest hay rolls huge...massive field sheep cows
mixed.............£10 bletchly whole thing museum huts house.......on
the west side town after rail station.....on google....map of
site...best to study.......see
all huts..not miss anything need whole day...midday couple tour
guides...so good..jokes and lots info.......picnic lake..car just
there...american wonderful trees...landscape beauty.....cafe
etc..........miniature model trains wednesdays...........films to sit
down to..3D glasses clever...if they get lottery money..ready to do the
last 2 huts where women sat all hrs..saved 10000s lives uboats batt
atlantic..crack code.-90 bikecouriers came from everywhere daily.all
weathers..thousands messages studied.....and dday and greece/italian
navy.nazi episodes etc..........best tv is family tree..new series dot
cotton so good..rowling of potter bks next week....... ... more >>
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Mike Hayler (Member 10264019) on 11-Aug-2011
Whilst this thread is very
interesting reading it has now gone way off topic...Can we please keep
this thread to the original theme, and a new thread be started for
anything else? Thanks, Mike.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Aug-2011
sent to brit lib email when you
just said nrp.......they replied email...said willings ref bk ....not
listed...3 places records looked......but as later said printing
works..........new thread click bottom page but many try quick not much
time to spare.........why north rd...perhaps there other place you spoke
of....origin of north rd name....best wish......are you old face
southall..in google...some people have memories 1955,,best wish ... more >>
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Aug-2011
@ Mike Hayler - I'm afraid every thread does.
I do remember seeing "North Road Press" as an imprint on some
candidate's elction literature once. Is that the sort of thing they
did? I have a feeling North Rd Press had disappeared in the early
1970s due to one of the many boom and bust recessions we had around that
time
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by Mike Hayler (Member 10264019) on 13-Aug-2011
Keith - I know that's what
happens on these type of threads, but it does distract from the original
topic and people interested understandably can't be bothered to read
through all the stuff that is not relevant to get to the stuff that is!
It's just frustrating that people cannot create a new thread for their
own topic!!
Anyway, in response to your question. Yes, I believe that is what they used
to do. Everything but newspaper printing. I have conducted some further
research this week and it would appear that they moved from Clifton
Road to Compass House, Lea Road, Southall but have no idea as of yet as
to what date this was. They were there until around the mid 1990's
(1994/4 I think), but know I idea after that. Regards, Mike. ... more >>
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Aug-2011
@ Mike
Totally agree with your first para. That is one reason why I lost
interest and rarely bother now. The last thread I started went off-beam
immediately
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Mike Hayler (Member 10264019) on 14-Aug-2011
FAO Graham - Roy says can he please have your email address? As he would like to contact you.
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Mike Hayler (Member 10264019) on 14-Aug-2011
I have a couple more names of
former NRP employees ... John Singleton & Danny Murphy. If anybody
knows them can they please ask them to post on here. Thanks.
Still looking for more information as to what happened to NRP or the Cotters... Thanks, Mike.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2011
if at any chance a
relative.....john singleton 1969 northolt....friends reunited
site.....daniel murphy 1977 gunnesbury boston manor.....and 1993 hayes
middx......our price friend found hers through a brother recently...best
wishes....email on friends reunited is private...open to all they can
get corrupted by bad scam etc...causing terrible damage to
computer..need to wipe computer of all.reimage the harddrive. and hope ok after......change email etc etc..... ... more >>
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by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 14-Aug-2011
I worked at North Road Press for
some years leaving in 1979. Jimmy and Tony Cottis ran the firm after
their father retired.I think Jimmy had the biggest say in things at that
time.Jimmy fair curly hair and Tony darker hair and beard.
Had a good few laughs there.
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by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 14-Aug-2011
John Singleton rings a bell.I think he may have been the guillotine operator.
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2011
tony cottis.......on friends reunited site....1952 featherstone school southall........best wishes mike..and gdad
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 15-Aug-2011
Hi there Mike,
Address is gradon1942@blueyonder.co.uk
Regarding John Singleton, that name rings a bell with me as well.
Regards, Graham ... more >>
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Mike Hayler (Member 10264019) on 19-Aug-2011
Dilys - Thank you for your reply.
John Singleton was indeed the guillotine operator. Do you remember any
more names? Or know what happened to the business or the Cottis family?
Graham - Roy should have contacted you by now.
Regards to both,
Mike.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Aug-2011
tony cottis.....is on friends
reunited site in google...1952 was featherstone rd. ..........they can
send on email to him ..........and you can reply email to
him............val on oldfacesouthall seems urgent to trace her
cousin........he seems to be on reunite site....was of featherstone rd
.southall........
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Aug-2011
My g/father worked for King
& Hutchings in Uxbridge around the turn of the 20 century i
think they also had an office in the South Rd. Southall.
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 20-Aug-2011
Yes thankyou Mike, Roy has contacted me.
Regards Graham.
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Aug-2011
king hutchings printers newspaper
gazette is good on google and refers to 1972 photos..in the
archive........kept at local history public library and national archive
kew..........so sure ....nrp .....would be the same.......nrp southall
at ealing broadway librarian and kew archive open
daily..................king hutch uxbridge....times house ruislip bridge
high st.which is now flats....and bakers
rd uxbridge...good original water paper mills manufacture bucks.and
harefield.....our old photos southall high st their king poster large in
photo...and our 1913 corner butlers..south rd arnold
tobacco..bank.edward thompson est agent..broadway butlers mr scott
manager.. sainsbury.richardson boots.chambelings ladywear.home
colonial.hallam corn..drug store.hutchings butcher.shellshears
ironmonger elgiel...haddrell furniture herbert rd....replied straight
away to denis above with info of ealing broadway but hounslow link but
had to delete cancel the sentences.should have used a nickname as
membership ... more >>
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Aug-2011
I lived in North Road 1934-1951-almost opposite The Plough-where was North Road Press??
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Mike Hayler (Member 10264019) on 20-Aug-2011
Michael - NRP was actually in Clifton Road, Southall. Don't know if they started in North Road...
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Aug-2011
Thanks Mike
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Aug-2011
Correction G.G/father worked for King & Hutchings.
- Re: North Road Press - The Cotters
by Tony Freer (Member 10259893) on 12-Feb-2013
I believe there was a Jim Willis
who worked there. Do not have details, but I was trying to locate Jim on
another matter. Anyone have contact info for Jim. Thanks, Tony
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tv and also heathrow
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jul-2011
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tonight channel 5 8 pm..boeing 747 jan 17 2008 crash land heathrow.from
beijing..ice clog fuel engines clog heat exchange.on wikipedia.photo
and map runways...creech hardware must have moved into southall...none
on post office directory 1914 yrs...organ palace/paragonopened
1912....on google.....names 1929 etc...gaumont..odeon..himalaya
palace..liberty mkt....but now being sold....interior photo e xteriors
on our photos...foyer says goes wide as cinema itself at
entrance.projector offices above....interior chinese lantern
lights..relative usherette many yrs.....chinese oriental dragon temple
roof....unique in country architect coles......bus stop always
outside.....memory museums south coast has projector of a cinema huge
thing......had guide tour of barbican london he took us in
projector..and showed ..very interesting....holiday pubs yr1500...beams
had old tales...eat drink be merry tomorrow may be illegal...old seth
according to his tale was twenty and hundred yrs old by drinking his
good ale.... ... more >>
- Re: tv and also heathrow
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Jul-2011
Thanks for the information on
Creech Yvonne. What a wonderful programme about the crashed 777 Boeing
in 2008 at Heathrow. It kept you in suspense right until the end, and
the culprit being ice! Such an easy fault to correct, but the hours and
hours spent and the brains involved to find the ultimate cause of the
crash.
- Re: tv and also heathrow
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jul-2011
yes good british crew he did
flaps avoided perimeter obstacle.seeing all houses hounslow...they
always come down gt west rd like runway length..straight.....seattle
triple 777..boeing..7 yrs old.so all planes now can have that smoothed
off fuel..bit..ice not clog so....such smooth flight over siberia..no
boost to clear turbulence no chance to melt ice till near grass
heathrow.....mrs foot Eng/librarian.dormers
1958 to 1974..her soninlaw boeing seattle career..family all moved out
there then grandson university seattle computer
career...barraclough......glad you saw it pauline...glad you got the
paraffin..good girl you were gt to you mumdad and siblings.... ... more >>
- Re: tv and also heathrow
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jul-2011
bbc peoples war on
google...southall.hayes.northolt..lists of peoples memories...typed
accounts of their memories...shoe shop by palace 2 girls killed..shop
bombed shoes everywhere..people scavenged..lived high st
broadway..jewellers opposite incendury..sweet shop..her dad worked
hoover toolmaker mum munitions southall..landmine flattened hse bay
.window out..had her piano out front ve day street party
sing...june richards.lived ascot gdns...jane johnson says gliders
northolt......history maypole dock says from brentford barge navy beans 7
flight locks..to dock.poulton noel.make baked beans...towed by
horse....palace jan12 1929..pagoda dragons...compton rank organ.....next
week is crash hudson river not long ago good crew also.......if miss
coronation st.. etc..forget video....plus 1...and put 33 in freeview and
watch hour later......... ... more >>
- Re: tv and also heathrow
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Jul-2011
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- Re: tv and also heathrow
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Jul-2011
Thanks for the info Yvonne really enjoyed the program.
- Re: tv and also heathrow
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Aug-2011
1946 victory march past king
queen mall..our photo board..heston airport 20 boys 2 teachers fly over
parade.bader fly past......today email from geneological society says
itv tv doing show..parellel lives like to hear from born 10 may 46..near
me but not quite..maureen lipman born then...war babies..dads home from
abroad....board42 extremely good southall and 1st v2 land chiswick 8
sept..nov churchill
announce commons after hitler says it..3 died 22 injured 11 houses
demolished near chiswick hse..aunt and partner lived near there 1930s to
1980s...often on bus
visits....email..parallellives@itv.com....brentford amazing photos
cargos straight to southall factories....gt west rd etc etc......in
google easier..type flickr southallboard photostream....each number to
42..gazette greg johnson born ruislip nasa space twice..last mission
this yr....space station russians continue a bit usa later to
restart.........over back garden evening saw go by in sky lovely clear
then 40 mins over australia.....greg so proud brit roots loves london
history culture.transport and even weather..could not have put it better
myself..ha ... more >>
- Re: tv and also heathrow
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Aug-2011
On Boards 40,41 and 42 I was very
interested to see a photo of Stephen Deacon with a crowd of girls
outside Trinity Parish hall, and also with three other men obviously at a
wedding at Holy Trnity Church. One of the Deacon boys was in my infant
class at Tudor road school, not sure of his christian name, as there was
also a James Deacon I think. They were rather handsome boys as I
remember them, who lived
at the top of Lady Margaret road, opposite the Parish Hall. I think
Stephen Deacon is the one at the end - right hand side. Also interested
in John Creech and wondered if he could be the son of the Mr Creech who
used to serve me in the Hardware shop in Southall. Very likely! ... more >>
- Re: tv and also heathrow
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Aug-2011
yes stephen on friends reunited
lives america....twin brother stan.....1960s photo holy trin hall lady
marg rd.......3 creech children parents lived beaconsfield..stephen was
in touch but last heard from gdaughter long time ago...all
dormers...kids......white button holes men then pink females.at
weddings..picturesque weddings holt trinity...my family nice photos.mock
design stone walls arch doorway.....
- Re: tv and also heathrow
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Aug-2011
happy birthday today world wide
web....invented......live camera photos today on news from venice
etc..and world...families australia etc like to use it for family chat
to england seeing kids say hello..camera..etc...amazing...and all in
such short time....channel 12 freeview still good.....natale cassidy of
eastenders her gdad gma..east end of 1st war........this thurs night tv
new ,a different view of
the blitz..now kitchen through yrs..tv..to see ..good
programme........lots photos local and all yrs.....board 42
backwards...in google easier type flickr.southallboard photostream.... ... more >>
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Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jul-2011
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When I was looking at the photos on Southallboard40 of bus conductors
in 1961 and 1976, it occurred to me that my memories of travelling on
the buses were with a conductor in a navy blue uniform and peaked hat.
Obviously I realised that their uniform changed later on, but can't
remember which year they actually changed. The conductor in the photo of
1976 was minus a hat, and had a light coloured j acket
on. Conductors on buses also disappeared, and apart from the more
stressful job of both driving and collecting the fares, they would also
be unable to help old people get on and off the bus, and also help young
mums with their young children and pushchairs like they used to do. I
don't even know if they allow pushchairs on buses now. ... more >>
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 22-Jul-2011
Pauline, you are right. My dad
was a bus conductor, retiring in 1954. He was based at Hanwell Garage,
and certainly wore the uniform you described. Part of WW2 he was on the
55route-during the blitz, his bus was damagesd in Acton by a bomb
dropping nearby. Mercifully there were no passengers aboard, and he and
his driver were OK. Later he was on the 120 route, and in his latter
years on the single decker that ran from Ealing Broadway to Ruislip. ... more >>
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Jul-2011
I have just remembered-preWW2 dad was for a long time on the 17 route, which then went from Southall to London Bridge.
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2011
vague kids memory but cheap day
ticket southall to london bridge 1960..jump on any bus..my cousin and I
from west ave...smithfield fish market got off..wet and smell
pavement..lower thames st north bank thames.....saw other sites..then
home......pauline and I remember..conductor stamp foot above driver cab
signal drive off...pull cord twice or ring bell twice..signal to driver
go....now lady drivers
do it all money change drive....but swipe prepayed card now no money
changes hands,,,,,white uniform old photos...metal heavy ticket machine
at neck..shoulder strap leather pouch.....3 hapence.kids.....the old
truppenny bit....tanner 6 d saturday morning pictures....E7 ruislip..55
wembley.buses.....watched entrance southall garage opposite st bernards
bad weathers..hoorah bus coming..leisure and canteens they had was
good...board41@yahoo.co.uk now......KEITH your arundel ..just back from
chichester areas beaches solent..south downs national trust areas
wonderful..devil punch bowl...etc...rural and also .working
lives.industry.skills open air visits are so interesting roman mosaics
villa..jane austen wrote gt works at alton..marvellous talks there
cottage. darcy and all...twicw to dover castle and tunnels..extremely
good..churchills look out to calais tunnel balcony.binoculars.. ... more >>
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 24-Jul-2011
Hi Pauline - I think the bus
conductor in the light coat without a hat would, perhaps, have been in
summer uniform. I'm not sure about the London buses but here, in the
West Country, the local buses have a platform that lowers so mums can
wheel their pushchairs on without disturbing the babies and park them in
the space provided. When I lived in the London area and my kids were
tiny, the conductors
would get off the bus to take the pushchair or sometimes grab the baby
while I folded the chair. When on a visit to my daughter in Reading
recently, I used the bus to solve the problem of parking and paying big
money to do so in the town. I was amazed to find that most of the
drivers were blocked in by transparent (and probably bullet proof)
screens. Not being used to this, I didn't have the right money and
needed change and obviously caused upset from the grunted response that I
received so I made sure it didn't happen again. I upset him again later
on by pressing the bell too early for the stop that I needed. Certainly
made his day! It seems that all bus drivers are grumpy old souls these
days. ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2011
yes cheaper oyster card now
janice....prepay from newsagent or tube station..just swipe
card.....free over 60 over whole country now...freedom
pass...buses....yes photos light colour uniform on our boards,,,lady bus
driver does it all now.swipe card light goes green ok to board....then
she drives off,.,,,.bullet proof glass..night midnight troubles.if
happens......some grumpy most nice..in central
london ask..way or..let me know get off nearest stop and many
help...some dont grumpy...but traffic gets them down etcetc.....cant
park anywhere..isle wight we go...on off bus day ticket anywhere
...now...because cars hopeless.....cant park high streets..so tesco best
get all and got huge car park...ha... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jul-2011
Hi Janice - I agree with you that
the bus conductors were always very helpful years ago when you had very
young children and push chairs to fold up. However, I think that the
majority of bus drivers nowadays have enough problems driving with the
increased traffic problems, and shouldn't have to be dealing with the
public as well, and collecting fares. Having said that, if they are now
behind protective glass
screens and, as you say, possibly bullet proof, it says it all! I can
still remember the 'fog' in the double deckers with all the smoking, of
which I was one. Gave it up fifty years ago though. ... more >>
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by peter hillary (Member 10254122) on 24-Jul-2011
Smoking was only allowed on the
upper deck of a double decker.There was a very capable conductress on
the 105 route who used a large hat pin with painful results if
youngsters got out hand on her bus, she was a good sort but knew how to
look after her self
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2011
oh yes smoking upstairs.....round
mirror..could see the stairs....room for one more inside
standing!....about 5 allowed..dont stand on platform and get off before
stop swing off pole.....ha..routemaster...now long bendy bus goes
through broadway southall...double length low by rubber join to
lenghten...many little single decker.now..often called E with a
number..going round more of the roads...
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 24-Jul-2011
The Ealing to Ruislip route was
the 211 until 1954, then the 97 which ran via Pitshangar Lane rather
than the 211's Drayton Green took over with double deckers
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2011
white hart yeading ruislip
rd..west end area.......in recent yrs now 120 and 140 goes...then E7
little bus across to ruislip piccadily station high st.from ealing..they
tried to extend to brentford but yrs drivers complained length.so
ruislip did not get end survice many yrs..was so bad...for workers and
pensioners at busstop all weathers wait in vane.........1970
onwards......recenty yrs new company and good now..after many 14 yrs so bad.. ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 24-Jul-2011
thanks for the reminder that it was the 211in dad's time. In the summer months it ran through to Ruislip Lido
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2011
yes..a bus route for lido still
goes daily..reservoir feeder from lido across brookside to southall
hayes bridge canal...recent 2 nd age canals on tv.cleaned .repair
barges tc...today gazette more money put to use at hanwell
canal....working horses good at open air centres exhibits.....lovely
near chichster beaches horses along beach stretches trot to gallop
recently....now barges with solar panel
and small windmill on top can be seen house boats for power..the
dwellers....photos board 41...40s 50s A/B press button telephones
etc..etc etc..less red telephone boxes about now... ... more >>
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by peter hillary (Member 10254122) on 25-Jul-2011
The Lido at Ruislip brings back
many memories of many visits.The small steam locomotive,the donkey rides
and the sandy beach and the occasion in the late fifties when the
Sunday Pictorial held a summer fete at the Lido with swim suited young
ladies,people parachuting into the water and Donald Campbell and
Bluebird.They rigged a system that allowed him to talk from his cockpit
to the crowd by way of
linked loudspeakers.When he started the engines there was a huge flame
which then disappeared leaving just noise and turbulence.Campbell
explained that he could only blip the throttle as the lake was too small
for speed ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2011
thats lovely
interesting..campbell blue bird at beaulieu abbey now new forest and
home of secret agents to france 2nd war exhibit..been few times....lido
site on google..film the knack...teenage michael crawford of later
excellent phantom opera,,,train good always there...beach but no
donkeys.....photos swim suit parade benny hill judge on our photo
board......ski ramp..motor boat ski was often there..and
for national competition...but gone now.....cormorants sit on old
ramp...swans ducks..donkeys gone.......row boats on our old photoboard
but gone...ice crean tea deco 20s white pavillion shape there but now
pub restaurant..........best wishes ... more >>
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jul-2011
I remember going to the Lido
on the bus or bike the railway and the beach also many
American service people from Ruislip in the 1950s
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2011
bus stop still always there right
at entrance no turnstyle now...roll towel cosi on bus...wet on way
home...H number bus now...from uxbridge station
depot.............hanwell depot with greenford section depot is the
other......brentford ealing greenford southall buses.......jessie
matthews lived pinner buried ruislip village church...dales diary.radio
and greensleeves musical films...........30s my
aunt used to cycle west ave to ruislip sunday tea shop was
fashion..popular...........beaulieu has chitty bang bang fly car of film
also........photos .a/b telephone and interior gubbins.board41...horse
wheel turned clay to break down pliable all winter frost helped..and
southall many brick making..moulders..made summer..kiln bake..photos
there....ironmonger old shop photos.....old cottage
interiors..photos.... ... more >>
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Jul-2011
Going back to LT busman's
uniforms in earlier days(dad retired in 1954), there was a summer and
winter outfit. Dad would collect his uniform from LT at Chiswick-I used
to go with him occasionally.
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2011
the london transport collection
photos site in google has quite a lot of photos..huge place at
chiswick..stores....canteen...bakery....uniforms being modeled by
staff...light and dark caps..etc..50s 40s..best wishes
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Jul-2011
Michael - Would the bus conductors have been able to go hatless in their summer uniform in the 40's and 50's?
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Jul-2011
Pauline-definitely not!
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jul-2011
photos page 1 board40...mr d.
bryne.conductor southall garage..1961......photo driver 1930 to 40 dark
uniform bus white peak.cap hat..badge on front there......they used to
wear their staff number.....liked the buses yrs ago had route on board
inside bus...many cant see anything in bus...but tannoy they do have
recording..next stop is such and such....bus going to
destination..tannoy.....love the bus
stops like richmond station has digital...board..next bus 5.mins or 15
mins..due to arrive......suspended.lite up.....rest new photos board41 ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Jul-2011
I had completely forgotten that
you had to hang on to your bus ticket in case an Inspector jumped on
board, as he did check everyone's ticket. Had also forgotten how cold it
was in the winter if you sat just inside the bus, and the 'Used ticket'
box just before you got off. I do remember that the conductors had a
very good memory!!
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2011
folded push chair or
suitcase..under as you got on at conducters place...on platform....no
standing on platform until got off....yes cold wet inside.bad weather
days....some tickets inspected today....many with oyster or freedom pass
swipe now so no ticket....tickets please he called out upstairs and
down regular checks..stage code to know where you should have got
off....pay to each destination...hold
hand out if red not white busstop or it whizzes by...full bus ..one
coming behind..ha...uxbridge rd had loads buses...that 105 southall to
greenford..shops.. .. lucky roads today extra little buses...E.....go
around extra housing estates..... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2011
interesting 1960 spiral steps
cafe opposite bowling alley was odeon..says off south rd junction lady
marg,,jazz juke box.used by southall tech lunch.....on ealing
knowhere..................perivale knowhere...western ave behind
factories war aa gun.on a wagon....and others on golf course..by
perivale church.....
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 27-Jul-2011
The present buses with their
doors have spoiled all the fun of being able to jump on and off the bus
at the lights. I sometimes had to run in my high heels to catch the bus
at Southall Town Hall if I missed it at the top of Northcote Avenue (I
was young and fairly fit. Grabbing the pole and swinging onto the
platform gasping for breath, I'd find a seat and my fare and one
conductor told me I'd have
to start getting up earlier in the morning! He was right but it was
tempting, on a cold morning, to have just five more minutes before
confronting a freezing bathroom. ... more >>
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Jul-2011
I had a good laugh at your antics
of swinging on the pole on the bus Janice. It also brought back my own
memories of running up the length of Northcote Avenue to catch the bus.
You, like me, lived right down the bottom of the road, and it was no
mean feat with high heeled shoes on. The 'wedge' shoes were the worst,
as you were so high up in them that you almost fell off! At least
waiting for a bus at the
top of Northcote Avenue you could shelter in the shop doorways, but
waiting in Lady Margaret road to go to Greenford you got soaked when it
rained. ... more >>
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2011
as kids the conductor would tell
off for pole and platform.dont jump off too early....kitten
heel.pointed...mens winkle picker beatles time mods rockers....platform
shoe etc..all those different ones.....105 to greenford..often get off
105 at the holy trinity hall side lady marg......apparently so called
when it was part of original old tin metal church 1900 demolished to
build new one at park.........ballet dance at the hall 1950s thought it was doreen venerbles....photo of the hall and bus stop 1950s on our boards ... more >>
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Jul-2011
Dad had a little rhyme (actually many)
" See 'em run, see 'em fall
Ring the bell and leave 'em all!
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 31-Jul-2011
That was a bit cruel Mike. lol!
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Jul-2011
dilys mike..all..it never ceases
to amaze me..only 2 yrs started computer...google ..etc...just put
couple words into google and up comes to fascinate...pakistani bus
conductor......only room for 6 inside please..so sorry..plenty of room
in my heart...bus is full......smile on faces became the queue......know
how they feel...traffic bad long wait ..bad weather...school or
work...ages to get home.....hand
goes out make sure he stops....hope to get on ..ha........today antique
roadshow...we spoke of andy pandy bill ben tv....paul expert.child he
was the model for andy pandy...his mum was puppeteer ...was ali pali
then before new tv centre1960 ,,white city now closing going to
salford.....my librarian started the infancy tv..she retired when I
worked with her.there.lovely lady.........teddy was on tv today..foot
tall...cross wood strings working..kicking his legs.....seen several of
the others in museums.......museum this yr near chichester all 30s 40s
50s stuff..dick barton radio etc etc..lots there.....all subjects of the
yrs....most there...hardly anything missed out...so much thee.... ... more >>
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2011
report of
conductor......approaching southall town hall.........calls out,,,town
hall ..henry hall...god bless you all...off you get.....mind your
step....goodbye..........google has nice rhymes jokes bus
staff........sayings........
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Sep-2011
the 1950s pea souper
fogs....later brought in smokeless fuel which helped..decline of coal
fire..coke......the bus conductress sat on the nearside mudguard rt type
bus..telling her busdriver where the side of the curb was...90b
ruislip...rural open areas yeading..northolt......1st bus stop from iron
bridge stand in fog...or rain watch for 607 to come out of southall
garage....ah...bus coming...full...standing
only...room for one upstairs......ding ding pull the wire.......ring
the button bell........conductress had a code to tell the driver to
start move off....... ... more >>
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2011
please................if
...anybody....knew.....george richard ..wingrove ......1930s 40s..a bus
conductor locally.1937.age 42......he was born heston..1895.....died
buried heston church age 61.....please...thankyou........nans uncles
boy.................
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Kathleen Campbell (Member 10236272) on 18-Oct-2011
I wonder if anyone remembers Paddy Glyn he was a bus driver at Southall garage Wifes name was Nora . .
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2011
in google .2004 7 july patrick
john glynn.is entry there.....site,,,,greater london missing
persons.........also.short page this site
glynn...glyn...champion....have sections there....no busgarage opposite
asylum no longer exsists..
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Dick Wingrove (Member 10268118) on 14-Jan-2012
I remember George Wingrove well. He was my uncle!
I often used to travel to Southall from Heston and Uncle George would sometimes be the conductor.
I would Have travelled to Southall in the '30s and '40s but I remember
my mother pushing a pram from Heston to Hamborough Road to visit my
grandparents, and back again in the evening and I would walk with her!
- Re: Bus conductors in the 40's and 50's
by Alan Sabey (Member 10273716) on 12-May-2012
My father was a bus conductor
then a driver attached to Southall Garage. They wore a white cover over
the top of the peaked cap and remember my mother saying they had to be
kept white and fresh looking.
He died 5/11/53 driving a 105 in Mornington Road, Greenford.
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Southall Local History Society Update
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by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 16-Jul-2011
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I have now added all the Transactions and Newsletters I have in my possession to the website, the URL remains the same:
http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/SLHS/
Colin
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 16-Jul-2011
Colin, thank you so
much........it is all so interesting & also contains names I can
recall; especially MR WHEELER of Park View. Chris x
- Re: Southall Local History Society Update
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jul-2011
thankyou colin ...enjoyd reading
all the others....so looking forward to this...very good of you..much
appreciated..thankyou... best wishes to you
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QUERY
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Jul-2011
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Has the format changed on everybody's Southall Knowhere Subject 1-20?
There are no margins on mine, and the script to the right hand side
disappears off the page. Although I can still use the slider at the
bottom, I don't normally have to do this. This was ok until last night.
From Subject 21 onwards everything is ok. HELP!
- Re: QUERY
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Jul-2011
My name isn't coming up on my page
Pauline Sykes
- Re: QUERY
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Jul-2011
Subjects 21 onwards are all ok. HELP
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jul-2011
thanks pauline thought it was my computer..yes 2days now margin all problems....
- Re: QUERY
by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 6-Jul-2011
If you hold Ctrl down and use the mouse wheel you can make smaller or larger!
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Jul-2011
Thanks for trying Vince, but it
doesn't help on this format. It just makes it all worse. If you try and
make it larger the margin on the left disappears as well. Just have to
keep using the slider at the bottom.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2011
yes have ben using slide bar 3
days now..........email is at bottom this page...sent 2 emails to
them.......no reply...........if just pauline yvonne ..perhaps it is our
computers..we 2 do cont plus minus..for photos etc...if that has
effected our computers..us 2 only....cant ask tony try 3 days now he is
up to his neck in work..2 weeks now his busiest 2 weeks....dont think he
can drive me to fete........it
is his worse fortnight busy....weekend will try see if he can cure
margin...........says rain saturday cool..dry sunday...fete sunday would
be best but....... ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Jul-2011
Yvonne, I can't think it's just
you and me who have this problem with margins. Could anyone with the
same problem please let us know. Thank you.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jul-2011
Will you miss the fate Yvonne.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2011
will see friday..will put on here..to say friday......
- Re: QUERY
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jul-2011
Ok.
- Re: QUERY
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 7-Jul-2011
Me too........text goes right across the page - not user friendly to read; hope it's corrected soon. Chris x
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Jul-2011
Pauline, Chris-me too!!
- Re: QUERY
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Jul-2011
I HAVE SENT AN E-MAIL TO "SUPPORT@KNOWHERE.CO.UK"
I EXPECT THERE ARE A LOT MORE OF US AFFECTED.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2011
thats interesting ...perivale knowhere..etc ..they are ok.....could only be southall.....strange ..wonder why....
- Re: QUERY
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jul-2011
Almost forgot will be gone
south early morning tomorow have put map ect in the car
anyway Yvonne, no problem with my computer.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2011
will speak to tony tonight and
put message on here tonight to try say if we can.go to
fete.............nobody else seems to be going.to fete.......think
margin goes off page because.....stuck..usually goes to next page at
full......may not be going with their..auto turn to next page...stuck
and effect margin...have sent 3rd email to them explaining......hope
they rectify...3 emails marked urgent......all other southall pages ok...... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2011
DENIS.thankyou realise
map...yes......thanks...will put message on here tonight...see what tony
can manage.........have spent this week on maps southall hanwell on
google..struck lucky...have stored them on computer .......will put on
board41 when chance..years1600.1800s etc...map dormers mount
pleasant....waxlowfarm durdans north rd.....no roads houses.all
brickfields.canal useful all along.......yes
springs water wells dormers....and wall around dormers mansion house
says with its deer etc...mill pond....with windmill just north of mill
pond...on edge where prefabs built.an actual windmill there ..flour
bakersshop .turnover mill all along golflinks area.......full screen the
maps are amazing...swing bridge spikes..yeading brook streams off of it
into canal spikes...causing bog ...drains waterfall later etc.....only
found maps this week google...stored but need to get on our boards
during summer..later on....busy at moment... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jul-2011
I think you have the same map as me approx 1600s.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2011
bring yours just in case....mine
talks of deer but only shows shadow of wall..around area of mansionhse
chesman.1600s....have just packed my usual 3 bags photos books etc..to
bring...will ask tony tonight...cant think 11 am ...hope 1pm or
so...hope not rain bad saturday..think most of it friday.......have
printed off copy of colins southallstreet names 200...meanings of them
packed to bring...have
norw green church stuff show phyl..etc...hope to see you both.....will
put message tonight...thanks your map etc...appreciated.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2011
dear phyl denis...just been
through my bags ...nice fullscap photos to show you as you said not able
to get our board site.,,junction pub canal1900s..st mary church..north
rd shrubbery... etc..,,,,some lovely things ...josie liked last
yr.....so all ok.....we can come bit later than 11...perhaps up to 1
pm..then afternoon....lovely seat table makes it so lovely...you will
like things bringing you....see
you then ..red top.and.black skirt........canopy over by church hall
west corner green norwood rd..table...perhaps...so grateful that you go
to trouble for us thanks....have lovely day everybody.. ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jul-2011
See you Saturday Thanks what time.
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jul-2011
Ok thanks forget last message.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2011
hope to get there before 1pm..says only little shower ..or may not be any...perhaps..thanks...
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by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 8-Jul-2011
Have faith - Saturday will be a beautiful day! Look forward to seeing you.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jul-2011
look forward seeing you,,,sure
you will like some photos have show you....of interest to you........bbc
tv weather friday..shows saturday west london 24 degres nice...and
seems miss ..11 to 5... no showers....seems to be.ok..so faith.....best
wishes thanks for everything......the southall hanwell bk oates..has
lots nice photos etc...photo gem cinema 1950 bet davis all about
eve...will have red top black skirt phyl...thanks so much... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jul-2011
ok again now chris mike
pauline.....sent 4th email to support etc today and now margin
ok.......bbc doomsday done by most towns 1986.on google...southall says
still fishing there..ponds river canal...says has roach perch beam rudd
tench dace carp......says old st john king st gave its original 1837
font for bapt to new st john when opened newy built 1910 church
ave......old photo old st john little
spire..and whole church covered high all over with ivy..some tomb
stones around....helmet sword on display norw green st mary and ancient
chest.....local scenes..waterclolour paintings on board
35/30/40.....mayor garrod southall 1930..lots viewings of haugh dee
photo of her dad mayor johnson southall photo of all southall mayors in
photo 1958....on our boards,,,ranleigh rd up by bankside built newly
built.. photo at opening 1936 photo..town hall 1900 was built on site of
1870 old brentfords iron holy trinity church..which was transfered
there..but leaked badly......hence holy trinity hall next door
there.......new holy trinity payed for by deloitte accountant london of
dormers opened park opposite 1900... ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-Jul-2011
My KnowhereSouthall site has been restored to its normal self. Hurrah!
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jul-2011
JOSIE.........and jimmy probably
know of ...boxing southall.....20s 30s....alf crane owned gym alley
behind king st..then pub wolf...alberto crane boxer....bubsy....young
conners boxer southall......southall green near 3 tuns pub......uxbridge
boxers jack decourey...james thompkins..seems...len and if mr thompson
know.....photo board40....and jimmys photo bricks..have another copy
from northolt yeading workers there then ..on our boards ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jul-2011
PHYL///////thanks table chairs
canopy..so comfortable...hope your friend continues enjoy site and does
her replies........denis so much interesting stuff you brought and glad
you liked our stuff....gives so much good chat........time
flies....interesting loads..amazing chat......first time hour in st mary
tea biscuits lovely chat...took a complete set photos they came out so
well...and looked up loads
on google merrick etc..1570 chesman dormers wells all in norwood green
because only one church then.......only pub so low long low ancient wood
beams..historic pub plough was nice again......birds prey display one
of the best we have seen..such gd commentary..eagles vultures hawks
falcons.............the new school looks perfect...high white ancient
building still kept beautifully and landscaped...was horticultural
college .ancient villa house hall norwood
green....conserved..................scottish pipers clowns
etc.......tannoy was good and pleasant nice music all day..........,,,we
had old maps windmill on the old prefabs site greenford rd...walled
mansion hse behind..deer park with dormers farm etc.............wexley
waxlow farm on all old maps...not much roads .dirt tracks....only river
brent east side meander...and lots bits yeading brook west side bog
meander.......even before mail post coaching came to build uxbridge
road.......no houses roads only farms brickdfields....... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Jul-2011
Thank you Phyl & Yvonne for a very good and interesting afternoon, lovely chat and pictures ect.
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jul-2011
glad you got back ok.....3pages
back....general titled section.....member val jenkins as kid from her
window saw fly fortress plane near gas works...she explains gasholder
never crashed....meads bk......other member lived queens rd said bombs
etc near there.....says white st and gates gas works..bombs etc.....fly
fortress our long page came down heston airport..only over back a
bit........terror from
sky in google says saw from back verander.......heston war crashes in
google.....bbc war people site says b17 fly fortress crash.......boxers
southall...couple pages back son don has put comment reply...under
boxing section.....gina coles 9 april couple pages back says saw fire
wolf rubber........today red replies there ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jul-2011
also says german bomber crashed
gasworks
area.........http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/64/a5383064.shtml....................
2nd war..5friends went to site.....in google also at bbc etc.
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jul-2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/71/a5118671.shtml....................norwood
green village fete goes ack so many yrs.....nice article bakers post
office woodbine villas behind phylis tea canopy....where 1914 post
office book has phylis yvonne family there at
woodbine.............vicarage bombed war.....fear of bombing etc to
heston airport near...cricket..bat winner displayed lamb or wolf..gone
missing...display church aerial photo shows site pond filled in and
worn yellow shape cricket pitch.....lines old trees so
famous.....ancient pub plough..southalls only church back in history so
gentry tombs carvings in church 1590 1660,,,chesman darcy merrick
robins.. trumper.child.....etc.........well done in preserve old norwood
hall white architecture looks good as new school...little biscoe 1770
still behind closed 1950s.......several of us had family went
there.....proms starts..last night will be great..... ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Jul-2011
Thanks for the info Yvonne.
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jul-2011
friends reunite site ..good on
places section..streets...lady margaret rd..some photos..northcote ave
has 50s colin peter martyn southall 1st st george scouts......groups
there has scout clubs etc.......southall rec swim club there.....sally
scarbrow lived north ave of janet roberts there if related to
phylis........julia bbc2 repeat canal series and bbc2 friday special
evening canal tv programme......
- Re: QUERY
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Jul-2011
Got S/Number Southall
Spitfire Meads date right but poss. not Canadian Northolt
and Heston plentyfull Spits. but polish at both airfields late
1942 have to dig deeper.
- Re: QUERY
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Jul-2011
Does anyone remember the
fatal shooting of an asian chap at Dormers Wells in the
school hall about 1984 or is my mind playing tricks.
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jul-2011
google says early 1990s..shot
dead dormers sch..a cult gang....c.kala.......evelyn strickland skul
smashed died 4 jan 1936 23 north rd.....spinster.........says new
windmill estate on old st bernards...drugs gangs stabbings......ealing
broadway bus 2 blokes from there stabbed police at bus stop....last xmas
3.30 pm..............june green dress shop 2 doors from
dominion...neighbour castle family........gold
age canal homemade films 30s 40s 50s...22 july bbctv.....my photo old
oak pub men 1925 charabanc strckland one of the middle aged men..luck
chidley ives ayres shortland..acres..jo dines...jellyman.. ... more >>
- Re: QUERY
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Jul-2011
The shooting at Dormers was 11 November 1987
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jul-2011
ah..that report on
southallknowhere short page siteother info they call it....person must
be wrong to say early 90s............the boat that guy built another
canal tv been on recently...southall swim club 1959 pphoto we have judy
grinham olympic star with them.......several seem work at crown cork.jo
dixon ted drew dot green.colin taylor...says 2007 /8/9new windmill est
oposite aec..troubles gangs......guiness
bk records at the time said was yr that higest number a levels achieved
by student dormers...........the church organ in st mary n green very
elaborate if very old ..or victorian to appear medieval...took
photos.....medieval type painted figures elabourate wood etc.......... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jul-2011
on google your 11 nov
one....under chacha ji.....mahraz jee ..both shot
dormers...........greenford catholic wiseman seniors...both schools got
so much money renew rebuild..new this yr..huge crane at opposite redlion
greenford catholic school build......expanding....today british museum
map canal southall 1867........written word dock....3 of them long
inlets...into brickfields ...one at marina...one
at footbridge huge curve.bridge.......3rd one at became taylor
woodrow...........middle dock at bride filled in ..huge mounds
there.......water goes in at other areas still....ponds etc.....off
canal.....says willow tree at pub and schoolhouse..at larch cres manor
farm was..industry pub...yeading brook charvill barnhill area golden
bridge ancient lord bernard miles actor saved bridge yrs ago....have
photo his family lived near him age 5 with teddy bear.............smiths
farm on map northola..josie will know ...name is still on farmhouse
still there the house........
... more >>
- Re: QUERY
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Jul-2011
Dormers now much changed two large cranes playing fields nearly gone
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jul-2011
large colour interior photos
dormers..in google,,,2 prospectus...photos old halls.field.....dad and
aunt went but demolish 1934 first built may2012..opens 1400 students
security new alemby rd entrance sept 2012.........last bit read of
dormers lane..mineral springs wells..chalybeath..health giving...says
one still there allotments....1590 mansion hse dacre fiennes chesman
family...walled deer pk....says
elizabeth 1st visited osterly mansion bankers gresham childs and asked
for it to be walled amazed he got men overnight and it was done straight
away...aviary sulton brunei..behind high wall windmill lane
there............fishing in lakes..sir bernard miles 1907 family photo
lived hillingdon yeading.saved ancient golden bridge..photo worley
family also.......worley on my 1925 photo old oak pub charabanc 30 men
trip easter southend....knew worley well........ ... more >>
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jul-2011
they often repeat the digital
freeview tv....today 1pm to 2........channel 38.......narrow
boat......film of bulls bridge................dover
barge.........brentford to birmingham carry steel..................based
at bulls..........................tom smith family...1930s 1944.....war
family f.rice barge..........sugar coal...we know dock going into
kealey took for jam making.................13 nov
1991 it was deposed.but put up for auction being restored and last
another 70 yrs......archive has boat families and slips paper of men..
carry ..destinations etc..weight......my gdad sister emma married
bargee.....akers to jack garland his father theo garland bargee,,but
jack got off white st settled worked gas..there had 4 kids twins boy
went s africa....emma born northhyde 1887 married 1907.........tv shows
dried open air oak not in kiln...good oak..water or swell...but good oak
restorers use long window frame barge etc..on tv show....today...board 5
etc.....gina coles has north rd school photos....... ... more >>
- Re: QUERY
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Jul-2011
Yvonne, I was very interested to
see your reference to Sally Scarbrow of North Avenue. When I was North
Road School(1934-1940), there was a Doris Scarbrow in my class- as far
as I recall she lived in North Avenue
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jul-2011
yes and page back phyl asked a
scarbrow person if related.......so there are a few of them in the area
shrubbery...sally north ave...on friends reunited photo......best
wishes.....a father was fred mcguire was jazz southall.....francis frith
photos amd memories southall hayes canford hounslow heston.....is good
free site ..google....odeon 6p kids cinema she was 5 at end war
..rationing..watched blacksmith
shoes horses smells forge uxbridge rd....3 horshoes pub...,,trolley
bus... trams to 1936..more photos to put on bikes avoiding gap tram
lines road ...another different one of trams hanwell bridge vehicles
traffic wall asylum to bridge..old view of viaduct pub then.........6
different pictures st mary norw green over all the yrs....rare picture
of old queens head pub before pulled down 1970 for house estate..new
heston rd heston up from church...... ... more >>
- Re: QUERY
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 16-Jul-2011
Michael, Doris Scarbrow was my
cousin. My Dad's brother, Charles and his wife, my Aunt Sarah, lived
with their family in North Avenue. There was Lily, Flo, Doris, Pat and a
boy who passed away quite young, and who's name escapes me at the
moment. Pat was the one I knew best when we were teenagers. Sadly she
died many years ago and I've lost track of all the others. I wonder if
Sally Scarbrow was my Aunt Sarah?
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jul-2011
dear phylis sally photo of her 4
of them on.... friends reunited site...free type into
google.....section.group...street... north ave........will try later see
what it was..but you mike may see it...best wish......unusual
surname....sometimes with e at the end.....and your gdad my gdad
neighbours 1914 woodbine....ackers.charles arthur edward....
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jul-2011
sally scarbrow photo girl right
side ...in southall pk...on board40 of ours....left elaine
aspell...sheila glynis..janet roberts maiden name..of tate channing who
lived 17 north ave no 1960 to 78..they went to dormers senior....gina
fairhead coles at 31........sally could be niece perhaps phyl..best
wish......they are on reunited...
- Re: QUERY
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 16-Jul-2011
Thanks Phyl-now I come to think
of it, I think we corresponded on this on FriendsReunited.What is a
little sad is the people of yesteryear we would like to contact, but
can't
- Re: QUERY
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 21-Jul-2011
Michael, I've now remembered, the name of the Scarbrow family brother who lived in North Avenue was Freddie.
- Re: QUERY
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Jul-2011
Just found on Amazon copies
Maypole and Southall Green £25, and Growing up with Southall
after 1904 £75 both s/hand.
- Re: QUERY
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 23-Jul-2011
I have an original copy of
Growing up with Southall which I purchased from the bookshop in The
Broadway Southall. I was working at W Strakers at the time and bought it
for my mother-in-law who was born in Southall in 1902.I claimed it back
after she died.It mentioned her father Robert Dean as being the
landlord of The Plough North Rd and of course many other things that she
remembered. Also have the other book by R Meads "Southall 830-1982"now worth quite a lot. ... more >>
- Re: QUERY
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jul-2011
Both are for sale in the
U.S.A at $50 & $175 have ordered Growing up with Southall
from the library, my G/dad in Maypole & Southall Green
Fetherstone Road, Wyatt bootmenders Cass barber & Wardlaws
florists.
- Re: QUERY
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 23-Jul-2011
Denis, you can read this book on-line. Just put Growing up with Southall in your search engine.
- Re: QUERY
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Jul-2011
Dilys - thank you so much for the
"Growing up with Southall" by R.J. Meads which I've just tapped into
Google. I've only read a few pages, but it's so interesting.
- Re: QUERY
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Jul-2011
Dilys - the other book you
mention is also on line in Google. Southall 830-1982 by R.J. Meads. This
goes up to 97 pages. Another good read.
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2011
PHYLIS.......you may not have had
chance....back a page and roy has just put on scarbrow......electoral
role he has ......north ave..arthur scarbrow louisa s.l. scarbrow.number
26...doris was at school......my family number 27 I think...so near
lady marg rd end,,10 yrs there..rows veg and flowers back garden long
narrow....3 bedroom....narrow kitchen..cold larder cupboard....toilet
bathroom room under stairs hall area.... ... more >>
- Re: QUERY
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Jul-2011
Thank you Dilys.
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2011
dilys......your mother in law
would have had tale to tell.....old north rd school..1900s...the houses
gradually beig built...high st old cottages turned into little row old
shops..like meads tells us ..she was born there 1906.went north
rd..might have known your dean.....lady marg long time to be continued
1940 think......durdans rd works canal she would know waxlow
farm..cattle farm coming down to
market from mt pleasant...isolation hospital....1934 dormers seniors
built beehive pub..nan moved in 6 kids new built west ave doll youngest
age 3.....she and gdad born 1890 northhyde....oldoak pub rec
..common..1912 .1914 her 1st kids born there...very old bad
cottages......we should have got them talking writen it all down
but..not happen..meads wrote lovely detail his yeading parents wife jobs
all 1900s onwards......free in google..and in top left with colin
harris site.......rare lovely old photos also........1900s old
shops..cobbler..smithy and all......at least the plough and north rd
green still survive......redlion of 1700 still hotel and park.1900s new
holy trinity was new church.....trams horse then electric...dilys
motherinlaw tale to tell ... more >>
- Re: QUERY
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 24-Jul-2011
Yes Pauline, Have this on my
favourites. Southall History. Also includes includes "The Maypole and
Southall Green" Nice to have a browse through on a wet and windy
afternoon.
- Re: QUERY
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 24-Jul-2011
Three generations of Boot's went
to North Rd School.When my son went there Mr Rogers and Miss Gregson
were both still teaching there and they actually remembered me and my
husband. They both seemed quite old when I was there but hadn't changed
at all meeting them later when my children attended North Rd. Used to be
terrified of Mr Rogers and his "Betsy" (slipper)but always liked Miss
Gregson.
- Re: QUERY
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2011
norwood green fete 2011 and st
mary interior on board41...1934 new dormers dad aunt went.. 1928 living
west ave....now 2 cranes huge money new school opens 2012..old
demolish...sad the ghosts of those classrooms 6 yrs myself....historic
oldest north rd..must be due to go on forever..amazing the
generations......they say more discipline for teachers coming
now..clever verbal..of.trained senior staff can work..with some...but bad schools.sad for staff ... more >>
- Re: QUERY
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Jul-2011
In R.J.Meads "Growing Up With
Southall" I noted there was mention of a Mrs Creech, who was the pianist
playing the music at the Paragon Palace in South road when only silent
films were being shown. The name "Creech" definitely rang a bell for me
as a Mr Creech used to serve in the Hardware & Oil shop on the
opposite corner to Evans the bicycle shop. I don't know if he was the
owner, as he also served
in another shop in Featherstone road when I was touring the town for
paraffin during the war. Does anybody else remember him? He always
managed to find some paraffin for me when no-one else had any. ... more >>
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Lewis Price
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by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 5-Jul-2011
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Does anyone remember Lewis who was born in March 1948 and lived in
Montague Road, he had a sister Valerie who is my birth mum who Im trying
to find. I thought if I could get any leads on Lewis it may lead to
Valerie, thank you.
- Re: Lewis Price
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jul-2011
norcap charity 26 yrs now on
google..high success rate...email...and letter to them with all info
every scrap known...to them.oxford....they are allowed official private
records to trace today addresses and contact...like nat ins number
etc.identity records......they get birth marriage death records
also......192 is for them and official users..... norcap forum on google
people pleased there.........they do first contact to help ease incase rare chance of difficulty and they can ease the choice of disturb... ... more >>
- Re: Lewis Price
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jul-2011
just thought can be expensive
thing...certs...192 is charging,,,,,but council depts get it free...they
have 192 for addresses........how about full page of every detail you
know..dot timms price 1944 val 48 lewis louis...etc etc.......photocopy
and send to each council hounslow ealing hillingdon..mark it clear ref
local adoptions trace parent dept........lewis seems 1948 born ..living
to 2009 uxbridge
ickenham 192.index......coucils help adopted people nowadays..you could
send photocopy your cert to prove you are genuine......barnardos also
help adoptions in general on google.....all these have access to
identity records 2011 which you need,,,computer private records they can
tap into for you.........take care...well done ...best wish...councils
have burial records also..... ... more >>
- Re: Lewis Price
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 6-Jul-2011
Good news, I think we have found
Lewis and he lives about 5 miles away from me!!! Also found who Valerie
married, still unsure about present location, but Im closer than I have
been for years, Ive given Maureen the address I was given for Lewis as
it may be better if she contacts him as she knew Valerie, thank you so
much Yvonne for all your help, Ill keep you posted!!
- Re: Lewis Price
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jul-2011
so good..marvellous..good maureen to ask.and ease the way.....always best....very good indeed...well done
- Re: Lewis Price
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 6-Jul-2011
Valerie is in Fife in Scotland, been there for 27 years!!!
- Re: Lewis Price
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jul-2011
good gracious.....I did wonder of
australia because many southall in 60s £10 pom to australia....how
lovely found her...well done...pity far...take care.best wish......so
many southall or middx or west london....moved so far all places in last
decades........but yrs ago..before mass travel.....southall people were
local generation after generation.......featherstone infants seems 1957
built opened western
ave..1954 1st yr of dormers infants built...featherstone was your local
boys school down southall green...featherstone seniors unless went to
grammar villiers rd.....feathers demolish and western rd closed photos
on our boards... ... more >>
- Re: Lewis Price
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 6-Jul-2011
Yvonne said "southall people were local generation after generation"
This is so true. Mass movement has only really begun since the end of
the last war. Communities now destroyed/wiped out via dispersal.
All closely knit, even the canal folk who went to Birmingham and back on
their narrow boats. Complete breakdown of society as nobody any
longer has any responsibility within their local community - West Middlesex probably more than anywhere else as all the people/families who worked on the land have vanished ... more >>
- Re: Lewis Price
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jul-2011
yes keith..our southall family
started in 50s...to get job and house..when married....move out
west.....then £10 pom or canada.same......then 60s onwards cars....nan
lived local like her geneology all their lives so did not know where
france was at 2 wars........but they had roots whole family and their
neighbours..knew local jobs........tried to get place to
live.........70s onwards.....houses none
and huge cost....move to rural cheaper house places.and hope to get
more greenery..........most go for work....jobs take them
off.........hubby wife used to be local.....same roots.........but hubby
found from all over country now....move to his area etc....ha...accents
less...tv... mungrel accent ...merge blend with young
people.......thick accents of past generations..were..... ... more >>
- Re: Lewis Price
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Jul-2011
That is so true i have lost
my West Middx accent due to living in the north a thing i
regret but the funny thing is my mother was always on to
me to talk posh and not use West London slang.
- Re: Lewis Price
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Jul-2011
Yes. I remember that it was
noticable that people spoke differently in different parts of London.
S, S.E., N and of course E. London once had distict accents. Bucks was
not unlike W. Middlesx, but again was dfferent, so by the time you got
as far as H. Wycombe you knew you were in a different place and N. of
Aylesbury was like a different country.
- Re: Lewis Price
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Jul-2011
Also, the people who had spent
their lives on the canal were with different dialect and words, some of
which were archaic from mid-Victorian times and had generally fallen out
of use elsewhere. If you read books like "Lark Rise to Candleford"
you get an idea of how the railways brought so much change and
population movement in a very short space of years, and once populations
started to move around the country, accents and dialects got diluted. ... more >>
- Re: Lewis Price
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2011
oh yes lark rise..did it at
school...have a copy on shelf.....tv recently....village post office and
rural poor folk...only west of middlesex.....we were modern north
southall..new schools..bit more modern..50s etc...but nan gdad were
southall green northhyde norwood green cranford lane.....rural folk back
to 1850 1806......120 bus to see the old ones...very agricultural
labourer coloqueal chat..old
fashioned in 50s 60s but...just saw the end of the old ways 100yrs
before.......geirrl....was always for girl......old womans hands narled
with crack hard labour....thing..with k....so many words rural
twist..school few yrs to their decades...much time spent helping over
fields.to earn pennies instead...with older folk whose rough lingo they
picked up........50s saw my uncles aunt...uxbridge rd near for shepherds
bush...so they had slight cockney as well.....phrases were well known
and used.............we had yorkshire come down to see us and they felt
my aunt was real cockney of southall......canada now visit and say we
are londoners cockney twang...ha........gt fun in 50s 60s 1st grundig
spool tape recorder......get my aunts gossip microphone behind
chair...gt laughs when played back..they had no idea how they sounded
when...deep in family chat...carried away...ha...strong coloqueal real
londoners......knees up mother brown..conga..old bull and bush.. ... more >>
- Re: Lewis Price
by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 7-Jul-2011
I've been in South Australia 44 years now, and my accent hasn't changed at all its pure Southall - lol
though local people here think is just "London"
- Re: Lewis Price
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2011
thats marvellous jean....my
cousins my aunt were of your year and moving but they never changed
their pure southall london type accent....language perhaps so strong
then.....but jean who lives sydney since 1958 lived worked with original
australians all these ys..quickly turned ozzie.....gt laugh when I went
1970 for month..she taught me the oz lingo...when walked in the door
from heathrow...my aunt
was amazed...I had oz accent...only lasted couple days ...ha...so strong
oz...it rubs off on you....my 2 canada cousins are still english accent
since 1970..canada..but not really canadian accent.... ... more >>
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flags
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 24-Jun-2011
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Suddenly all the entries on my KnowhereSouthall site have got a small
flag by them. How on earth can this happen,and how do I get rid of
them????
- Re: flags
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Jun-2011
Mike go to the bottom of
this page click to the previous page and then click back
the flags should have gone
- Re: flags
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 24-Jun-2011
Thanks-they have gone! Mike
- Re: flags
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Jun-2011
Eh???
- Re: flags
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jun-2011
it is ytube film site on google..polish film..of 303 squadron of raf northolt wwar2...
- Re: flags
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Jul-2011
Thanks Yvonne.
- Re: flags
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jul-2011
good films in
google....construction heathrow 1944.5.6....1st runway concrete wimpey
trucks....7sq miles..planes descend..C.O.I......great western is top of
page....http://wn.com/heathrow#...............
other films there and dover tunnels castle...2 magpies pubs there etc etc....
- Re: flags
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Jul-2011
Been in the Dover tunnels
very interesting well worth a visit as is the castle history
from Rome to the nuclear age.
- Re: flags
by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 19-Jul-2011
Will definitely visit when we go to Kent from Lincolnshire for a weeks holiday in August.
- Re: flags
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Jul-2011
Dilys there are more tunnels open since i was there.
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Belgian Refugees during WW2
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Jun-2011
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Many years ago on this site I put a piece in on Belgian refugees, with
little response, although I did get some West Middlesex Gazette cuttings
reporting theit arrival. We had in 1940 two young Belgian men lodged
with us.Later they moved on-one joined the Belgian Army, and were
replaced by one middle-aged gentleman, a Mr van dem Branden. While it is
likely that most returned home at the end of th e war, I often wondered whether any settled down in Southall. ... more >>
- Re: Belgian Refugees during WW2
by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 21-Jun-2011
Michael I do not know of any of
the B/refugees stopped in Southall but in my stay in Folkestone Kent
during the war it was reported that some thousands of Belgian where
housed in the Kent County. I believe it was the same during WW1.
Josie I missed Yvonne`s yes to the cottage name "HILL HOUSE". The
Mullard`s moved into 8 Green Fields when the cottage was demolished.
Ron
- Re: Belgian Refugees during WW2
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 21-Jun-2011
There were a fair number in
Southall, and they formed a social club, which used to meet at
Shackleton Hall for a get together, with lots of English people(us
included)invited.A prominent Southall man was Mr Neighbour
- Re: Belgian Refugees during WW2
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2011
photo easy to see on are you old
face southall..in google.....and on our photos.......jim neighbour..one
of the group mayors southall 1956...from dee ferris haigh whos dad on
it..........have always seen neighbour family on census
southall.....1911/1891...in google.....van dem der den branden...name
shows there...middlesex......think one at staines...best wishes
- Re: Belgian Refugees during WW2
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Jun-2011
In Havelock road cemetery is
a grave of a Belgium soldier killed in WW1 the name is
Henderik Minck does any one know of this person would be
interested to know.
- Re: Belgian Refugees during WW2
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jun-2011
I have just collected
R.J.Meads book, The Maypole & Southall Green from the
library looking forward to a good reead.
- Re: Belgian Refugees during WW2
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jun-2011
maypole also southall green..60 pages...lovely lots interesting chat there .photos.info...
http://www.southall-history.co.uk/history/the-maypole-and-southall-green/9.....................
60 pages to click and photos..shops jobs
roads.manor..hospital..chesnuts.working mens club........maypole
institue community centre used 1st war hospital..1934 southall hospital
opened.....dave neighbour mayor southall.... all there..decades info...
a.e.boot.living 1920ish heathern rd number 217....which was old name for western rd. ... more >>
- Re: Belgian Refugees during WW2
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jun-2011
Yes Yvonne been trying to
get it for months worth the wait g/dads boot menders mentioned
Featherstone road,
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southallboard37
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by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 13-Jun-2011
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This must just be one of those things, on southallboard37 there is a
picture of of two young lady's Daisy & Lillian, who posted this
photo? it is just my mum was Lillian Powell and her sister was Daisy
(who married Bert to become Daisy Howard of British Waterways Bulls
Bridge cottage) I can see a resemblence of mum but that may just my mind
playing tricks, can anyone help, if so I'd really be grateful
- Re: southallboard37
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jun-2011
found it page 1....several weeks
ago now.....probably might be ....... hillingdon hayes .com...photo
board...in google...free site.........says bulls hayes border
canal............have a look at photo s ..hayes site..there.......nice
for you.......good
- Re: southallboard37
by Maureen (Member 10262383) on 13-Jun-2011
Hi Keith, I used to live opposite
Valerie Price in Montague Road. We were good friends. I moved to
Australia and lost contact with Valerie years ago. I do know that
Valerie had a brother Lewis. You mightbe able to trace him. I cant
remember Valerie's fathers name but you can find that out by getting
Valeries birth certificate. I think Valeries father was Welsh.
Sorry I cant be of more help. If you find her could you let me know as I would love to contact her myself.
Regards Maureen ... more >>
- Re: southallboard37
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jun-2011
vince 2..POWELL.........entries
apr2011...on our short board click mauve southall at top
here........maureen..... di ....Of PRICE..........was in touch with
me.....have put your message ..ALSO on..2.entries she put on other
short pages site....thankyou...........
- Re: southallboard37
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 14-Jun-2011
I remember Daisy and Bert Howard
very well. When we first came to live in Bulls Bridge Road, and for many
years afterwards, we used to see them daily. Daisy used to walk past
every day on her way to and from the shops - a long walk back to their
cottage at Bulls Bridge. I think Bert was an employee of British
Waterways? And used to keep an eye on the men fishing the canal.
- Re: southallboard37
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jun-2011
at 8 stratton gardens off lady
marg rd after they married.so 1925photo is daisy may weaver married to
cyril laming a 1924 brickie from clarence st....lillian weaver
sister...born 1909 died 1971 age 62 registered uxbridge...says married
southall registry office around 1926 so new council..did they have
weddings at southall town hall then...
- Re: southallboard37
by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 14-Jun-2011
Thanks Yvonne xx
- Re: southallboard37
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Jun-2011
Bert Howard worked for the
Waterways in the 1960s when my Dad worked for them too. The other name
he often mentioned was Eric LANSDOWNE
- Re: southallboard37
by Robert Dormer (Member 10260778) on 16-Jun-2011
Hi Vince I knew a girl in the
60's 70's named Wendy Powell, she lived just off the High Street in
Southall and worked for BOAC (British Airways) at Turrif Building are
you any relation as I have been trying to make contact with her for
several years now, I left UK 30 years ago an now live in South Africa
(Kloof Natal) and work in Chingola Zambia
- Re: southallboard37
by Vince Jackson (Member 10004627) on 16-Jun-2011
Sorry Robert but she was not
related to me but on Friendsreunited.com there is a Wenday Powell who
worked for BOAC from Southall, perhaps that maybe her, good luck
- Re: southallboard37
by Robert Dormer (Member 10260778) on 17-Jun-2011
Hi Vince, many thanks that is the
Wendy Powell I knew in the 60's, Ive been out of UK for nearly 30 years
now, live in Kwa Zulu Natal, but work in Chingola Zambia. Used to
"drink" in the White Hart Southall and knock around with Mick Drawmer,
who I still keep in touch with and visited my Wife and I in RSA a couple
of years ago, nice communicating with you and thanks for your help
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Telephone Exchanges
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by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Jun-2011
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On the "Price Family" thread there have been references to Waxlow
Manor. . ,It has reminded me that WAXlow was the old telephone
exchange name for Greenford, with the northernmost tip of Hanwell, and I
believe a bit of south Northolt included too. We had a WAXlow number
on the Cuckoo Estate, Hanwell. I think north Northolt was given
HARrow numbers. . Hanwell didn't have it's own exchang e
name unlike ALPerton, PERivale (which included some of West Ealing),
EALing, SOUthall & HAYes. Most of Hanwell got EALing numbers, but
because of the increasing demand for telephones, in the early '60s,
GEOrgian was allocated to south Hanwell, and SKYport was allocated to
the expanding airport and I think parts of Heston and Cranford too.
Were there any other LOCAL exchange names that you can think of that are
now fading into history?? ... more >>
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Jun-2011
.....and I've just remembered VIKing which I think was mostly for Yeading.
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jun-2011
yes thanks viking yeading...and
the cluster rds.east of spikes bridge yeading...road names viking saxon
dane norman lancaster..tudor... what with the tudor red rose emblem of
the school.......ah..southall council..liked history...nice choice all
the 200 roads southall on colins site poets writers scientists as well
as generals gentry etc.....thanks keith most did not have phone ....but
mike remembers his
waxlow early number one.......durdans works carriage cart factory was
telephone number 11.......so tiny the numbers started 1900s ... more >>
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jun-2011
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/3357554/Unlocking-Londons-best-kept-secret.html
those who worked taylor woodrow or lived up there....2007 was build new
marina,photo demolish woodrow on our board...lovely stroll..durdans king
george pks up to ruislip rd bridge..photos will squeeze on
later,,,coots moorehens.,fishermen...£180.000 2 bed apppartments
now,,£5000 yr to moor boats.....blue green restaurants
shops..eco .solar.. green.insulated..flats...civil engineer pub still
there...uxbridge photo shows planks wood stored under covered sheds
wharfs 1950s canal.as I remember along stretch spikes canal....pdf file
on google lovely pictures of new grand union canal village...tow path
shrubs nice....mobile phone mast high parakeets nest.....swans
sometimes..willowtree so many hses there now.. ... more >>
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Jun-2011
Sorry Yvonne, but you've totally
confused me. My article was on telephone exchanges. Are you saying
that there was a Taylor Woodrow telephone exchange? Otherwise, you
have completely confused me and I have 'lost the plot'.
Or was your posting meant to be on a different thread. Please advise. Sorry.
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jun-2011
no just the yeading side
there..taylor woodrow demolish photo on our photoboard..new photos this
weekend of canal up there.....on our photo board...couple of our members
worked there......
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Jun-2011
Oh.
Thanks for the explanation
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jun-2011
ok best wishes.......some rare
photos on board40........norwood green long pond ..before filled
in..diffferent one.............butlers hatters hosier on
corner...tram...and some items more visable now in
distance......photos.denis durdans and king george pks..and the new
marina at canal..new pub.there but still civil engineer over the
back....etc etc.,,.....so much board40
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jun-2011
On Board 40 in the photo of Butlers, could that be "Auction and Estate Offices" on the opposite side of the road?
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Jun-2011
Thanks Yvonne yes walked on
canal 3 wks ago saw marina and new flats shops very nice
to. Pauline would the estate agents you mention be Austin
Farrs in the South rd.
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jun-2011
yes we alked it took photos...15
mins up there..nice quiet ..attractive..eco flats...pub
restaurant...canal village they call it on woodrow site....yes pauline
..gd enlarges auction and further distance is clearer than we had
before...could be georges or flour mill bakery or tudor rd early
houses......thanks
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jun-2011
Don't know about that one in the
South road Denis. If you tap "Control & +" several times, you can
see clearly Auc, & "Est Off" in the building on the corner of Lady
Margaret road - page 5 Southallboard40.
- Re: Telephone Exchanges
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jun-2011
yes ,,photo around 1900s
1907...ish.....looking west....full screen gives distance some
building..........some other photos on our boards have south rd through
the yrs.....couple auction estates agents around.....the diary yrs of
residents on google have told us of all the decades massive
building..tight rows terrace houses,,,..small time builders running out
of money..half built..long yrs before complete...huge
brickworks...rent people could not afford hammond rd early days doing
moonlight flit..etc etc..down by gas wks hard times housing........nice
photos..in general ... more >>
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Price Family
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by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 1-Jun-2011
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This will be mainly directed to older members. I was adopted in 1963
and Ive spent several years trying to trace my birth mum. Her name was
Valerie Price, a telephonist who lived in Montague Road Southall, Ive
recently learnt that her mum was called Dorothy Price, their last known
address was at Sheringham Tower Baird Ave, I believe Dorothy died
between 1978-1983. Any info however small would be m uch appreciated, thank you. ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jun-2011
married into my family puttick
lived flats and baird roads.golflinks but not know..price...best
wishes..keep trying..tower has about 12 floors..storey....many one
bedroom
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 2-Jun-2011
sorry Yvonne, can not understand your reply..who married into your family?
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jun-2011
puttick family married into ours
lived over by your ..price..estate ,,,but email back today said did not
know price..it is a huge estate...loads lived since 1970 approx
onwards...several tower rise flats..price does not seem to be on friemds
reunite either...for local schools jobs streets neighbours there..but
she would probably be married different name
- Re: Price Family
by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 2-Jun-2011
Hello Di I subscribe to 192.com
the only Dorothy Price that came up was her middle name E also a Ronald
Price as the other occupant, my sister has lived on the Golf Links
Estate for the past thirty years at the moment I am in Plymouth she
might have known them I will ask her when I get back.
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 2-Jun-2011
Thanks Len, wondered if Ronald was Dorothy's husband ( my Grandad?)
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2011
birth yr............on cuckoonites site.....or use this.........http://whathappenedinmybirthyear.com/
yr then click?
myself olivia dehavilland broderick crawford oscar best
actors....sampson delilah best film..15 yrs on tells you top song radio
film....
- Re: Price Family
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Jun-2011
Yvonne, the site is - cuckooites -not cuckoonites
It was set up originally for people having connections with the Cuckoo
Estate, (Cuckoo Hill, North Hanwell) and seems to be of interest to
everyone "of a certain age". It is amazing how many have emigrated to
US NZ Australia & Canada. Worth a look, - cuckooites.org on google
will find it.
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2011
yes my computer google brings it
up cuckoo ..google is gt.adapts.......gd site many abroad .last
reuinion..local hall sept 2012 ..5 reunions......
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2011
price.....di......telephone if
the exchange...near her rd...was 1963 and my cousin worked there nearly
10 yrs later.........bt or telephone exchange in friends reunited site
..places click workplace.......if somebody knew her......building at
ruislip rd northolt yeading white hart corner was the
exchange.......dont know what called but google can find out waxlow used
to be the old area.............or she may have been telephonist office like taylor woodrow nearby....taylor woodrow workers on friends reunited site..... ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 9-Jun-2011
thank you :)
- Re: Price Family
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jun-2011
Yes, that was WAXlow because it
was on/near the land of the old Waxlow Manor. Exchange area covered
mostly Greenford with bits of north Hanwell & Northolt
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2011
thats keith nice square building
1960s..exchange.on ruislip rd.south side.just before white hart pub
yeading lane.....my cousin left grenford grammar was her 1st job a
year..
- Re: Price Family
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jun-2011
Sheep worrying at Southall
In late 1917 at Uxbridge County Court William Goddard of Waxlow Manor
farm, Southall sued William Morgan of the "Hare & Hounds" Northolt
for £37, 8 s, 9d being damages for injury to twelve in lamb ewes by the
defendants Airedale terrier dogs at Waxlow Manor Farm, Southall on the
morning of 29th December 1916
- Re: Price Family
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Jun-2011
Part of waxlow farm is now Jubilee park.
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2011
boards 34 /36 etc...photos maps
etc.1900.1800s 1757 rocques cary....brit hist on line..1930 dormers lane
opposite new school starting 1934.dormers farm.poultry sheep
cattle...muddy lane 1930s renamed to allemby was cattle track to high st
mkt..only cottage farm mansion house...in whole
area...........ourphotos there old building dormers coming down..new
structures open sept 2012....1450 students....pool
leisure sport centre..out on olf field faith field allotments for
domestic sci...science field..pond.....mount pleasant leisure gardens
recent map west faraday by dormers..with old peoples home on mound area
where kids played..burns ave oposite so old snells farm.....was ewers
farm..earlier...prefabs by brent fields path...map to 1930..mill shop
flour..south of path 100yrs.....1800s windmill on left side up at prefab
area..just after millpond.........west ealing says
1800s1900..1760number of fruit trees ...plum apple cherries..osier
willow trees made baskets,,.jam factory brentford..bottles off
river..fruit to covent gdn kew bridge mkts........loads interesting
reads..............glasgow clyde blitz tonight continues bbc series..so
much they suffered..........clever sets bbc rodney fools horses series
goodnight sweet heartcomedy 40s.east end..eiderdown..pub... shelter
.arp...hairstyle clothes etc..song jokes all...noel coward all... ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jun-2011
Yes it was a muddy lane until
1930, and it was re-named Allenby Road then, before which it was SPARROW
LANE. There were 10 islated cottages up there called Durdan's
Cottages
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2011
yes sparrow farm sparrow lane
says as north rd....prob be harehounds still there ruislip rd top
allemby rd before what used to be entrance gate greenf grammar,,,,new
buildings entrance in lady marg rd now..demolished old 1980s...invited
all 1939 start people back..photos on google.......lovely read old maps
greenford rd was windmill...acres to east says owned by northolt but in
parish greenford...all
using land by brent river........my aunt moved in allemby after buliding
up by allemby pub 1937/8ish.....remember hall hut by 105 bus stop
before beehive pub...dormers rehearsed lady bracknell.me..ha..importance
being ernest.....lots on our photo boards...southall green.cenotaph
800killed 3500 enlisted southall.eal library list names ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Jun-2011
Could someone tell me anything about the Durdans please.
- Re: Price Family
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 10-Jun-2011
I found out a bit about Durdans when l put "Waxlow Manor" into google. There was something there.
- Re: Price Family
by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 10-Jun-2011
Denis l've tried twice: once with
"Waxlow Manor Durdans", and once with "Waxlow Manor Farm Durdans", and
you will get some different thread answers coming up. Worth a look.
On one of thm yesterday, I saw reference to the "ten isolated cottages"
up there. . Sorry but today is a busy day here and I'll be off line
for most of it - but all the info I got was from google yesterday
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2011
Di.....another place to put price
..ask.......curious fox southall site in google.....durdans rd between
allendale and lady marg,,,scott will flo living........1942 bradshaw
ayton lived..............durdans pk cricket....1900 carriage cart works
durdans being off there top north rd exactly on canal.spur off canal
then into factory..catalogue ebay on google...on our photo
board.........brickfields durdans
canal......durdans pk aug 2010 mum daughter stabbed each otheer from
hse they lived at pk......king george pk took over as name...all along
canal there..........canal turnover bridge horses go from lack tow path
to other side..high arch....willowtree marina old brickfields other
side......durdans orchard old days....durdans pk primary sch.......the
works at canal durdans still at canal..sheds factory...stroll
canal..factory.huge roar men listening pakistan won cricket they were
watching listening to,,.....10 isolated durdans cottages..area named
after man owner................waxlow viking seem telephone........now
new grand union village on site taylor woodrow..coots
mallards..nests.....the outlet of canal still there into area of houses
with their own bridge..as woodrow used before............type in
google.......googleanswersthedurdans.....nice bit there......1833
built.......the cart carriage wks before 1900 many yrs there....at
canal...durdans their address north rd before 1900 on address also...as
the area.............roy mills glaxo 1954 worked also on google fly club
he did ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2011
durdans rd on slhs colins pages
he gave us.....built 1933...shortened unlike most
lengthened....originall y joined lady marg says kellys post
office......named after resident hence 10 cottages durdans and durdans
orchard..1900 william moore company durdans works carriage carts by
canal inlet into works..£50 durdans catalogue of carriages on ebay
address north rd telephone no 11...photo on our photstream
and on google...old start of telephone numbers yr1900...sparrow
farm..north rd now puely directional used to be sparrow lane leading to
sparrow farm..meadow way at school 1930 many meadows around.near sparrow
farm,,the green outside grove hse part of the farm...important highway
lane sparrow lane up to kings mornington rd....then1930s allemby got
called lords allemby pub after army high commissioner egypt.....southall
local hist soc research of colin...new hses opened allemby helped
married couple kids started in the late 30s........where build now not
blade grass left space ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2011
google.....has snells farm as
farm close now......opposite burns.at bend..with farady the other
side.......1891 census free on line has ewers farm dorm lane...the
school seot08 archaelogy research...has 1891 1930...william deloitte
hill hse mt pleasant opposite dormers sch cattle sheep poultry..and 6
deloitte labourers cottages..cattle so much down muddy lane sparrow lane
north rd to famous southall
mkt centuries..and main trunk rd oxford london uxbridge rd at ancient
high st,,,,,,publican king at plough..boot at grove cottages...mr
fountain at mount pleasant farm....russell at beehive pub.....mr webber
at southall farm north rd.......only 1 cottage dormers even though canal
1800.rural..... ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by josie (Member 10235627) on 10-Jun-2011
Hello yvonne.William Deloitte
Hill House..was that the Detached House opposite DWS entrance,it was at
the end of the Cottages that lead up to the Beehive, it has been
Demolished along time..a large foreign lady and small husband lived
there..she always wore old fashioned wrap around apron.regards Josie.
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2011
what gt info from you
josie..thanks..yes...2008 set aoc..archaeology for new build
dormers...research said yes right opposite sch in 1930 ...1934 school
opened..doll went there 1936 age 11 ..on reunite some people talk of it
then......need to see upstairs hist geog and down re and by hall cookery
before they pull it down but rush......2012 new build opens
sept......yes he took house on sheep cattle
poultry........lots on google dormers and allemby/..lovely...hap
weekend.....tony printed off street names info etc southall.will bring
it to fete.......ytxx ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2011
lovely about lady if related
1930s 40s need kelly directory or electoral roll 1940s.......1891 census
free in google on line has him.....yes hill hse..opposite entrance ,8
cottages his name ..so often they owned labourers cottages tythe,,kicked
out when lost labouring job 12/- a week 12 hrs
daily...rented....beehive 1891 pub..always had beer for them water not
drinkable...must be bees as well near......new
entrance sch sept be in allemby security all involved
technology......wow what changes..ha...specialise maths computers
etc.....over 1400 students..using mt pleasant leisure gdns as well....to
south...largest school google says......spikes they have half money new
pavillion ..hope 2 million to build by olympics.......gazette.... ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2011
brit hist online in google...as
gentry sometimes did they payed for almshouses for poor
destitute........to commemorate queen victorias jubilee yr1897 will
welch deloitte name on opening almshouses terrace red brick north rd top
masefield ave where zeta lived.......demolished 1961 about same as
pulled down frogmore almshouses by wolfe pub.......but by beehive he had
called deloittes labourers cottages also...think the 6 yrs I went through those tall dws.black gates opposite ha.....all weathers..hour to get there....ha ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by josie (Member 10235627) on 10-Jun-2011
Hello Yvonne small row of alms
houses in North Rd beginning of Mount Ave nearly opposite Masefield Ave
...still there..regards Josie.
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2011
google has ..london gazette dec
1940...hill hse dormers wells lane..court ..paying 31 dec
1940.monies...harry montague guy .. canal gravel pits
iver...................listed buildings southall cattle trough drinking
fountain bollards opposite odeon cinema uxb rd......bees if hives
complex making honey..old pub so 1800s.........there is old drink pump
up by iron bridge on left north by bus stop and .....cattle horsed drinking trough in middle duel cariageway opposite entrance new ealing hospital... ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by josie (Member 10235627) on 10-Jun-2011
Sorry Yvonne ...Alms Houses
behind Beehive..entrance to them in MaseField Ave also in Dormers Wells
Lane opposite DWS entrance next to where the demolished house stood..the
house was still there in the early sixties when i was at Dormers.have
nice weekend Josie.
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2011
oh good...google said
not.....1961 was query....thanks.....will look if ever get
there........street view is good and satellite google showed durdans rd
well....canal to taylor woodrow now new buildings on photo......durdans
orchard says was south bottom of allemby at north rd ..10 isoloted
cottages durdans..were north rd says.........
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2011
yes clear on street view ,call it
greenfields..looks nice refurbished complex low cottages.....brings
back memories top masefield used to cut through there.........post box
outside sweet shop postoffice opposite beehive....nice view on
google.2005 think camera went round hot july scorched grass...nice blue
gates now ent dws...says new gates going to be in allemby rd security as
well.......
- Re: Price Family
by josie (Member 10235627) on 10-Jun-2011
Hello Yvonne Grove Terrace isolated cottages.Josie.
- Re: Price Family
by josie (Member 10235627) on 10-Jun-2011
House in Dormers Wells Lane still
has Orchard..many years ago it belonged to Corn Merchant who had a shop
in Southall...it is the one on right hand side of the entrance to what
used to be the Allotments now Swimming Pool,the Orchard runs along the
back of the ajoining houses..trees were protected ..new owner cut them
down to build on was refused permission now house is let out and is the
pits ...this house many years ago had Swimming Pool in side garden..then Bowling Green very sad to see now.Josie. ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2011
thanks josie..thats
marvellous,,,spent a long time enjoyed street view today..whole
dormers.........top.masefield and alley I used to cut through 50 yrs
ago... ha....allemby.......then down north rd..old sweet shop brown
looks like storage from through back...meadow sch passage.........saw
plough must ask chris exactly where her boot repair shop was.....grove
house victorian listed building but says
council using it....yes 10 isloted grove terrace,,thanks.........yes
saw terrace row cottages behind beehive...50yrs ago back brain...did
remember how almshouses layed back at school gaate.......dash round to
105 bus..or ...rush walk home.....not observant enough age 11...old hut
hall by bus stop.. gone...dormers used it to rehearse,,etc........will
go sept 2012 see new entrance and posh new build..........greenford
grammar ..they build quick..a yr..1939 opened 2008 all old students of
1939 ish invited back when bulldozer there..... tea cakes....we ought to
get invite,,,quiet july end term............mrs coutts music wonder if
she could go again........swim pool yes have read all their new posh
stuff they have there now......street view did telford ..mt pleasant pk
behind ..........then faraday and farm close of snells.......and junior
infants alley to wood stream millpond....3 alleys to kingsley north
rd.........clear camera hot july 2005 van......see now incase they ever
take it off some people used to complain..........thanks yr gt valuable
info....saturday sunny make most of it.......ytxx ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Jun-2011
The sweet shop gto which you refer was Goldswains-bubble gum, Spanish Wood etc.
- Re: Price Family
by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 10-Jun-2011
Cottages Beehive Pub down Dormers
my family lived in No 5 with friends the Dennis family for a few months
in 1939/40 after we were moved from Andover Air Force Base. Mr Dennis
was a coal merchant and delivered coal by horse & cart, had two
children John & Ron.
The cottage at the end of the row opposite DWS was known to me as Green
Fields and No8, two families lived there ,Ault`s & Mullard`s. Ault`s
had a couple children Mullards no children. As Josie said a large woman
& small husband the Mullards.As kids we would call in to see Mrs
Mullard (Emmy} after school and get treat,a lovely motherly person. ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Jun-2011
Thanks Keith will try that.
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jun-2011
thanks ron wonderful info all the
way from oz....on street view the cottages looks good nice and strong
and beehive strong colour decor..sweet shop post office stiil
opposite....greenfields they call the estate you drive into now opposite
sch gate,,,refurbished low properties lay back indide there...old
almshouses..laying back to masefield.....our old dormers pulls down now
...new by 2012 sept..new
entrance security gates etc allemby rd......best wish...and mike...old
sch pass swt shop...gold/bax....on our photos and on streetview
google..still tough blocked in brown front..looks like go in around back
building.goes back looks like storage..no sign of ever being pulled
down srong place..got your lovely list of house numbers all there with
renee m thompson.shop shoes.....got the number so will get eventually
see it all again..thanks..gd grove cottage section back few pges so many
of you contributed ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 11-Jun-2011
Yvonne RMT SHOE REPAIR SHOP was
at 45 North Road. Opened in the early 1930's and closed in 1973. It
was run by my Grandad & Mum & Dad. Next door one side was
Hurdwells Grocers, the other side was Jayne's Haberdashery. Jayne was a
character. A very old lady (in my mind) who wore an ill-fitting black
wig & thick make-up; bright red lips too. Across the road, on the
corner of Kingsley Avenue was
Petrie's the Chemist Shop. Along the road was GOLDSWAINS the sweet
shop - also known as BAXTERS. We also used Ansdom & Pope
Sweet/Newsagents shop which was a step or two away from the local
Blacksmith's who worked at the back of MR BROWNS House. It all seems
like another world to me now. Chris xx ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jun-2011
across the rd was corner
kingsley...that is the key...the best....I know kingsley well.....so 45
should be able to make out from that...bet your life all shop fronts
much changed no numbers showing....but kingsley is the best..always
remember little shops acoss there,,,see if one of chemist still
there.....yes and brown heavy front blocked in sweet shop still
there...so whole bit there known now...my
aunt lived north ave so used grocer greengrocer down that end of green
on her way take 3 kids north rd primary 1960s.............3 alleys off
right from kingsley going east to dormers primary walked daily all
weathers.......my cousin married boy of kingsley born 1930 so about
1954.hiett......read all chris and everybody excellent page grove
terrace... one of best sections in whole sight..unique memories our
members people...never find real memories in any library book...thanks
chris have nice sunday.......will go eventually put all photos on our
site here ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 12-Jun-2011
Hi Chris, and thanks for naming
all the North Road shops again. Brings back lots of childhood memories,
especially the blacksmith. I can still remember the burning smell when
he put the horseshoes on the horses. I think he was busiest on
Wednesdays, market day, but he never minded us kids standing in the
doorway watching him work.
- Re: Price Family
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 12-Jun-2011
SHOP NAMES......the other side of
North Road to my parents shop: MAX SMART...gents hairdresser/second
hand book shop. MAY SWEETING....greengrocers (she was a scary looking
woman) and I remember her dog PETER. I remember buying small white paper
bag of lemonade powder from May Sweeting. I used to dip my finger in
it; then ended up with a yellow tongue & a yellow finger-tip. Then
there was a Butchers....and
Sellars the Sweet Shop/Newagents, this was run by MR HECKFORD. I can't
recall the others - can anyone else??? Chris xx ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Jun-2011
Thanks Chris for bringing the
memories flooding back. The Heckfords had one son,Teddy, who was in the
Merchant Navy during WW2. In my time, the butcher was a Mr Howard, who
cut up meat with a fag in his mouth. Many is the time I had my hair cut
by Mac Smart-if someone came into the second hand shop during one's hair
cut, he would abandon you while he served the customer. Pre WW2, next
to Howards was a fried fish shop. ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Chris (Member 10220786) on 12-Jun-2011
mmmmmm the name HOWARD does ring a
bell re the Butchers Mike, but I don't remember a Fried Fish
Shop......must have been before my 'time'... I recall having to walk
along the Broadway to get our Fish & Chips; a long walk there &
back from Grove Terrace. Chris xx
- Re: Price Family
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Jun-2011
Chris- Howard would I think be before your time-the fish shop closed~1939-your mum may remember.
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 14-Jun-2011
This is directed to Maureen who
used to be friends with Valerie Price..she was my birth mum who gave me
up for adoption in 1963, Ive been looking for her since I was 18 can you
please message me thanks x
- Re: Price Family
by josie (Member 10235627) on 14-Jun-2011
Hello Di..have seen your messages
re your Mother..The name Lewis Price rings a bell he was nown as Louie
Price..just a thought have you tried placing a message on old face
southall..good luck Josie.
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 14-Jun-2011
Thanks Josie..is that on here? x
- Re: Price Family
by josie (Member 10235627) on 14-Jun-2011
Hello Di ..just put old face southall in google...Josie.
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 14-Jun-2011
thanx hun x
- Re: Price Family
by Maureen (Member 10262383) on 16-Jun-2011
Hi I've just been going through
Free BMD'd. I found a marriage for a "Price" also a birth of a Lewis
Price in the same area with the same parents but no Valerie??? Perhaps
she was also adopted. Maureen
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 16-Jun-2011
hi Maureen, what site did you
find that info on..is there anyway I can give you my email address as
you said you were good friends with Valerie :)
- Re: Price Family
by Maureen (Member 10262383) on 16-Jun-2011
Hi Di, I did definately did know Valerie but I left Southall before she did. I left in 1962.
You just need to write in "FreeBMD's" on google. I have be doing my
family history and on Free BMD's It gives all Birth Death and Marriage
information so you can then you can order the certificates. Well up to a
certain date that is. The area I was looking for Valerie only went to
1965.
I'm staying at 22 Stoneway, Hartwell. Northampton until September.
The information I found had Lewis,s mother as Rachael so if it is the
correct Lewis Price I could have been right about her Valerie's mother
name as I thought it was Rae. Also it said his father was Alfred. I
found the marriages of an Alfred Price and Rachel Timms all came under
the Uxbridge area. Maureen. ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 16-Jun-2011
hi Maureen is there any way we
can chat via email, Im getting confused I was told by an ex neighbour on
friends reunited that Valerie's mum was called Dorothy, but as you knew
Valerie Id be more inclined to believe you!! who is Rachel Timms did
Valerie's dad remarry? where can we chat other than here?! :)
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2011
valerie if adopted../her 2
surnames would be in the apoted books...now at kew....online also.....if
1st born ..and lewis was later...she may have been born before couple
married...may be birth under mother maiden name......1943 to 46 perhaps
vals birth..war times..........if then when dot married price took on
price name for school...montague location.....clifton rd western rd
featherstone schools.....
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2011
find my past is the other site
for births etc.........only 1 valerie price born 1941......register
district uxbridge.........1941 uxbridge covered large local
area,,,,,,,,,heston etc came under brentford register
district............click side and details ...but credits pay £10 or
so...........on line in google.........
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2011
bdm on line...birth valerie
price...register district uxb which covers southall//1941 volume 3a page
248 for getting birth cert details....her mother down as
strutton.....no christian name given...so price seems dads name.......
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2011
june 1941meant to say all birth
records said valerie price......marriage on find my past pay credit few
pounds for whole marr cert, details.........marriage 1964 district
uxbridge covered all areas local..as southall..........age 23 that would
be.......
- Re: Price Family
by Maureen (Member 10262383) on 16-Jun-2011
Rachel Timms married Alfred
Price. Possibly Valeries parents. Valerie should have been born around
1944 as that was the year I was born in and we were both in the same
class at school. I dont want to put my email address on here but you can
send me yours to the address I sent you.
Maureen
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2011
free in google index ...find my
past....dorothy rose price..died 1980 place was hillingdon....from the
tower hillingdon hosp probably.....several male deaths...local area some
ron............pay credit and all details give..........also dorothy
p.r. price died 1969 place hillingdon.....if vals grandmother.
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2011
marriages later would be borough
hillingdon..civic centre.reg office...it says hillingdon as
place........louis a.n. price .married 1973///pay credit and would give
wife and address job etc.....lewis a.h.price.married place
hillingon..probably means borough...1973.......but there are couple
price on friends reunited ..live ickenham which comes under
hillingdon......
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2011
yes lewis price mother timms born
distr uxb 1948.......on records...........friends reunited can send
email and photo....without others seeing email ...
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2011
find my past....alfred l price
marr uxb district 1941....and says rachel timms marr uxb 1941....1944
val born your class your school....would be same age you....not yr
different.older.....
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2011
war yrs...away in services or
local factory essential work..louis could easily be his middle
name........like son as was common
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 16-Jun-2011
wow thanks for all that Yvonne!! will send you my email address Maureen, thanks again! x
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jun-2011
you said death cert poss dot
price,,3 yrs ago sheringham towers,,golflinks...informant could be son
lewis or val...with their name address on it..and local gp.who signed
death or unless was at ealing hospital uxbridge rd.....cert registered
district borough ealing.......gd luck
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 1-Jul-2011
Latest update..have found out
that Valerie was living at Sheringham Towers but has sold her flat and
moved,Im going to Ealing library to look at the electoral roll but now
feel like Im back at square one!!
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jul-2011
well done gd luck....estate agent selling flat may have forward address...solicitor name...etc....
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 1-Jul-2011
Dont think estate agents are
allowed to give out any info, if I can get her old address I may knock
on immediate neighbours to see if they know.
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jul-2011
never know..ask..gd luck...13
floors tower...several on google sold in yrs 2008 and around.....if not
living there but selling because inhereted it...but neighbours..would
have known..comings go.a bit......ealing hospital if towards
end......best wish....ealing library is nice....
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 1-Jul-2011
Thanks Yvonne,just to get her old
address would be such a big step for me, can do so much more with an
address to go with a name..have a good weekend!
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 2-Jul-2011
No luck with electoral rolls dating back to 2006, Valerie not found on them :(
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jul-2011
she may have travelled into
southall..the tower flat to visit her mum..then if she and lewis
inherited the flat..probate office in london.they are slowly putting
records on line......opposite high holborn station.records free to
view...........electoral roll..either price or married new name......192
on google yrs 2002 2011.......many moved out west..slough
etc....brother lewis price born 1948 seems
to occur.....google.....hard work good try....the agencies are allowed
to look up names.for you..national insurance stamp etc ..on computer
rolls of the country.....identity. ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 3-Jul-2011
thanks Yvonne, yes Im thinking
she has married because Im drawing a blank for Price, maybe look for
Lewis..what agencies help you look for names?
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jul-2011
adpoted people have long used
trace agencies who help them......on google.....sincere gd wish.....free
index on google...find my past... val price married 1964....district
uxb registered...southall came under uxb then....would be uxb reg
office....pay couple credits and it gives you details husband
etc..........
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jul-2011
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/all/refine?rT=ALL&e=M&fY=1963&tY=1965&iSnV=false&sn=price&iFnsV=false&fns=valerie&fnS=F&rC=51
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 3-Jul-2011
Thanks Yvonne, no wonder I
could'nt find her if she married!! I think I will go to Ealing Town Hall
and do an index search, it costs £18 for 6 hours and a registrar helps
you look, may even do a search for Lewis at least he can't change his
name!!
- Re: Price Family
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jul-2011
yes gd luck....past site has to
2005...marriages....registry office.........and section to 2005 mariages
parish churches.........she is not on church one..........but is
uxbridge registry office 1964...........my southall family..some of
thewm got married uxbridge reg office.........address ..job..district
parish of each at marriage......etc on certificate.....£9.headquarters
on line ..gro registrar
general for whole country...pobox2.southport lancs.pr82jd..tel 0845 603
7788.....they do not charge extra now for them to search couple yrs
either side.......cert would say witnesses ..may be dot and
lewis.......ealing broadway old town hall percival house.uxbridge rd..
now.... has nice lady registrar who holds her copy of all birth death
marr cert records borough ealing and going back...20th century..for
towns now under bourough ealing....southall changed 1965ish......she can
also search and issue cert..... cost same......letter cheque to
her....she returns cheque if not found......£9.20 approx ... more >>
- Re: Price Family
by Di Taylor (Member 10261760) on 5-Jul-2011
Saw that, thanks Yvonne. Trying
now for Lewis, all I got was his birth March 1948, thought it would be
easier to trace a man but proving just as hard! Is there anyway to
contact you away from here?
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Southall Local History Society
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by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 30-May-2011
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Hello all,
It's been a while since I posted anything to the message board, but I hope this will be of interest.
I recently acquired from Ebay some newsletters and booklets (called
Transactions) for the History Society from the early 1960's. I am slowly
working through them converting them to PDF format and have uploaded
the first of them to the web today. The 1960 Transctions file is mainly concerned with a history of St Mary's, Norwood Green.
If you would like to read them the link for the relevant page is
http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/SLHS/
The page is not exactly pretty but it will do for now.
Regards
Colin ... more >>
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2011
thankyou colin early 60s ..nice and st mary..gd...will look tonight...always grateful to you best wishes..
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 31-May-2011
Thank you Colin. I look forward
to reading the report on St Mary's Norwood, where I am Churchwarden, and
it will be interesting to see if there is anything in it not already
listed in the history of the church. Fingers crossed I can open it! Will
let you know.
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 1-Jun-2011
Colin, sadly I'm unable to open the link you gave.
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jun-2011
I cant either...saw your other
you gave us months ago,,and ...-.....in my ivefamily.....also after/
should there be something......you are good to us all your time
thanks..will wait as you are trying to get it to us..sincere
appreciation thanks colin
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 1-Jun-2011
Very intresting Colin. Had no trouble in opening site.
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Jun-2011
I couldn't open it yesterday - tried twice, but tried again this morning and it opened straight away. Very interesting.
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jun-2011
yes tried 4 times last
night..today quick comes up...after night web seems to
process......thanks so much colin loads there..phylis...top left
type....put stops..hyphen..slashes.......1959 organist 1961 1963 items
so gd....photos good....1190 diagramn inside...pages history will read
in minute..as nans gdad 1806 born bapt..wife in frogmore almshse age 80
widow.marriages burials st mary wingroves..........broadband
helps......flickr 39.8./.7 good latest our photos....beaconsfield model
village gt this week so much so clever took
photos...........middlesex..canal herons....heston airport planes had
loads viewings....southall manor interior photos ......george twyman
visit with greenford grammar high ...video talk.in google...view from
ub2........ ... more >>
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jun-2011
gradually reading...so mike
braden..pages say michael hilson born 1940/41 went north rd to age
9..then latimer..engineering..norwood green society age 19 keen
member...........brian hanson 1960.started card index 6000 entries
parish church books bapt marriage burials.......for st
marys..........colin will bring my books photos papers to norw green
fete 9 july sat 11.to 5pm... ,,if you are not far..cars pk easily and on green.arena excellent events teas food etc all there..music..so good.. ... more >>
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Jun-2011
Dont't forget as print is small Type CONTROL+ to enlarge (several times if wanted) and CONTOL- to reduce.
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jun-2011
41 pages photo interior st mary
1934..burials closed 1858 went to new st john burials yard king
st....sorry mike was thinking 30s but this michael was 40s......expect
the punch card system bapt bur marr records.are . at ealing local hist
library now with oates........1/- yr clerk payed by act parliament start
church records 1654..but 1757s clerk neglected records..poor state
building to 1824 and 1850s..rebuilt
1896.........so problems getting my wingrove bap t...1806......st mary
virgin with st mary hayes....................southall green across to
fern lane ..living....... ... more >>
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jun-2011
http://www.southall-history.co.uk/history/southall-a-brief-history
continues from colin.....thanks again 3 sections have read now
colin.nice photos......click.brief hist by southall.librarian 1965..fire
king st .martin bros.maypole.roman coins.mammonth found gravel pits
bricks norwood green 31 pages.click bottom page brief history
pages...paul kirwan also on google ..photo bk on board39 lots there...julie canals gd last night....tv
... more >>
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Jun-2011
Yes, Julia Bradbury's Canal Walk
along the Caledonian Canal was wonderful. What about the 8 locks
"Neptune's Staircase" and the winding bridge. Julia is prepared to have a
go at anything! I will certainly be watching this series on BBC2 now on
a Friday night.
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 4-Jun-2011
I have now added Transactions No.
5 to the site. No pictures in this one, it comprises two articles the
first about local street names and the second about local charities.
Colin
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jun-2011
thanks colin will have look..it
is all so interesting..grateful to you...yes pauline wonderful 8
locks.took some time to get barge whole length.but water up hill...first
in world ,,,telford..he was so excited to build..started months before
he got permission...navvies worked wonderfully,,,,will look bbc2
yes..she is so good...she did the lake district.series..wonderful.....we
have enjoyed it there............interiors
southallmanor board39.slhs.g tywman took greenford grammar around.his
chat on ytube.........6 model 1930s coal steam trains go around
bekonscot last week...little train kids go round..extremely gd there
clever.....short page our site lady asks if her milkman gdad is known
havelock he delivered many yrs.......southall chiswick pubs went coach
derby ..my uncles went..queen not quite win ..gt horses gd race...kates
mum horse 2nd in other race..carole photos southall etc board35 ... more >>
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jun-2011
colin ite.200southall
streets.research 1965.abbot rd.after local family founded local
firebrigde..townsend because leggetts forge herbert and as end of town
town..north rd was sparrow lane to sparrow farm.with durdans off it 1833
durdan orchard.waxlow farm.meadow rd by school because yr1900meadows
there.grove house listed building and green was part of farm.....lady
marg named after earl jersey wife
1874 to 1908....elizabethan manor called southall pk.fire 1883 dr boyd
died with 7 asylum patients thre..ruins wall mounds on our photos
today..allemby rd muddy lane just cattle track..cattle mkt 100s yrs
southall.high.st.gas started 1868 at £22000.hortus means garden orchard
the.king st after king prussia pub.south rd all way king st was called
southall green lane..western rd was heath lane because whole area all
around the rec..was common land heath..tently lane southall lane..my
family moved there ag lab and brickies 1851 census has them tentlow
tently lane by old canteen pub.cranford high st...tentlow farm on
barrack row which was orphanage napolionic war barracks gunpowder. ... more >>
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Jun-2011
Thanks for that wondered where Lady Marg. name came from.
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jun-2011
ok..site says..ewers farm was
dormers dormans lane gentry hse there,,natural springs,one in
allotments..dormers school badge has spouting springs in
it.....hambrough thought to be by brook..and yeading brook.bits off goes
by......most road names after famous gentry.....rt warren named his
built estates after home town dorset.....1920s his roads around norwood
green..gdad with his dad brickies..northhyde
their cottage...age 30 1920..warren liked gdad...gdad known as leader
bolchy.strict but matcho got on well with blokes......warren had him as
gaffer chiefganger man teams hse building.everywhere many yrs,,.warren
gave gdad his suits......strict apprenticeship which gdad insisted his
eldest son followed..quality.......nans brother worked warren..gazette
article funeral warren wrote thanks work and sent group to
funeral.heston cottage by church as he wingrove worked 12 yrs old to
death 61 heston farm seasonal so all did building as well....found out
what happened to famous turner painting southall mill......1806 100yds
east 3 bridges......artist.son .dad1874. son sir francis cook
collection..lived richmond then 1948 to jersey..died 1978..widow
gson....christies sold it 2006...to private collector.no reply who has
it now.....called grand junction canal and southall mill.....earl jersey
farm land warren farm etc,,,hay,corn,flour windmill those
days.......widow should have made sure southall ealing had it back
secure on show..gazette this week pitsanger failed bid lottery heritage
money..security needed there to put martin pottery back display after
robbery..saw it all 10yrs ago lucky.....1908 lady margaret died old map
shows top part lady marg built then....but 30s before shakleton rd
northwards gets built photos in ealing library,,,, ... more >>
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Jun-2011
I have a very old map that shows Dormers as royal deer forest
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Jun-2011
Dad told me old lady had
cottage across the route L.Marg was to take she would not
move and had to wait until she died before it could be
completed.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jun-2011
lovely..please can you bring map
to fete....I can bring paper pen and copy draw it out,,,dormers had
dormans mansion house,,it was its own district of ancient
norwood..........snells farm ..ewers farm at faraday rd....springs
wells...one still in allotment......allemby was only muddy lane cattle
track down to mkt.........big old trees were dormers lane.........yes
makes sense old cottage..ealing library
photos of 20s30s,,trying to build north lady marg rd....builders stuff
in photos..seems long time...wait expect....1929 west ave houses there
doll was 3 ..nan moved in 1928/9...........love to see your map and I
can draw it out quickly..thanks.......cooler this yr..not that 90
degrees bad luck of last yr..big hayes carnival same day as
usual.....meant to say many southall rds after famous people as well as
generals aristocracy gentry ...etc.....200...........thankyou
denis..grateful...ta ... more >>
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Jun-2011
Snell's Farm-brings back memories-pre WW2, mum used to send me there to get new laid eggs.
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jun-2011
think they expanded dormers
senior school to right over snells farm ..perhaps....the big open area
to 1950s new primary school being built...is dormers lane there
westwards....as you pauline walked through to brent pk...open on all old
maps...faraday golflinks estate prefabs allotments..path to woodland
and bit water..that we kids lessons there nature...huge mill pond to
right fishing..across was ncient
windmill lane..flour mill and shop..to right of path to bunny pk
rabbits and bridge ovr brent river...golf..but huge area open old
maps......chivy chase bit of rd at balastrade bridge brent to iron
bridge.....royal chase noisy of the hounds royal hunt..so all up to
north rd high st outhall open areas.......green ..woods etc......google
says...that..southallpark being the name of the elizabethan mansion
hse........google says they wanted the sovereign to use it instead of
windsor castle..being nearer to london..roads rough...board39 had lots
viewings yesterday photo pond manor hse trees etc may 4 party
2011.........there at suthall green ... more >>
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Jun-2011
Where exactly was Snells Farm?
I've read back on the Site that it was in Dormers Wells Lane, but I
still can't place it. Can only remember the opening in the lane itself
where we used to walk through, across open fields and trees until we got
to the stream with the frogs in and further on the large pond just
before you got to the Greenford road.
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Jun-2011
Pauline- From where I lived in
North Road, I walked up to Palgrave Avenue, where there was a series of
allys that came into Dormers Wells Lane about half way down, more or
less opposite the farm entrance.
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 6-Jun-2011
Hell Pauline ...If you came from
the Beehive Pub down to the bend in Dormers Wells Lane where Burns Ave
Starts Snell's farm was onthe opposite side of the road.we used to go
there alot as my Father along with others used to park their lorries
there..regards Josie.
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 6-Jun-2011
SORRY meant to say Hello Pauline..regards Josie.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Jun-2011
Thanks for that Michael. Just
shows how ignorant I am about the roads in Southall. Even had to look up
Palgrave Avenue on my map! I think we used to walk straight to the top
of Burns Avenue to get to Dormers Wells. I didn't even realise that
Dormers Wells was a Middle School for 8-12 year olds until 1954 when the
Junior and Infant schools were built.
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by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Jun-2011
Thank you Josie. I've been trying
to visualise all the old places. The Beehive was always a pub you
remembered, especially on the bus route. At least you and Michael have
given me some idea of where Snells Farm was.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jun-2011
thanks josie..those 3 alleys
mike.I used daily.....came out opposite new infant school high
gate.50s....burns so opposite just off there at faraday golflinks
estate..all area started to be built......says 1900 ewers farn at
faraday rd..so all good farms lands .lot of open land dormans areahuge
area springs wells......eggs sound good....allotments there many
yrs...but jammed full of homes there now.....yes
we walked lesson stream woods then back to school your junior school
pathway......big mill pond fishing was to south right..greenford
rd..straight across..kids still walk path to bunny pk.... ... more >>
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jun-2011
phylis...if helps....type in
google....southall history pictorial compendium....click....then see
pages bottom page click each...see section to the right click.....but
street names 5...not there..colins site for that...best wishes......
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jun-2011
yes definately ..deer pk
dormans.......british hist on line..reference13,,,says map in book
vulume but NOT..shown on computer on line.........lord dacre owned
dormans mansion and land.and says surrounded by park
pale..deer....1592......dormers wells springs wells..and that mill
pond..so became space there for all the houses to get built up and big
schools....dormers millions this yr started new build
seniors....got pool .leisure..sports centre..all that land behind row
of houses east side lane......top lane to right southall park mansion
hse and grounds....1800.......little high st red lion pub...oxford
uxbridge rd and along to hayes..church rd freemans lane ..hayes manor
house and deer park and pleasure pk 1398..........awsiter owning old1578
manor hse southall green he extends adds yr1100hindu sculptures statues
in cornice still there.....yew trees he has clipped into shape of
temples.......pale term used wood stake fence used deer...just all open
green..across to manor hanwell gentry and brent river fields fox hounds
chase....100s yrs.. ... more >>
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by josie (Member 10235627) on 13-Jun-2011
Post Office opposite Beehive is now Sri Lanken Convenience store,regards Josie.
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jun-2011
thanks josie..still red post box
outside perhaps..street view done about 2005/6......beehive is amazing
paint..some time now...wasnt so bright when we walked by same yrs for
sch...ha.....old photo on our board shows before...old pub on 1891 and
before census
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 19-Jun-2011
Now added Transactions No 6, this one is mainly on the history of Holy Trinity Church.
http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/SLHS/
Colin
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by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jun-2011
thankyou again
colin...trinity...we were christened..and family members married
there...so grateful to read it today...great...arent we
lucky..........your info........old ones of southall park on boards
photos.....ruins kids played on the castle......old mansion hse burnt
dow 1883...etc etc....
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by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 19-Jun-2011
Thanks Colin. Holy Trinity was my
parish church in the 30's and 40's. Of the clergy listed I remember Mr
Evans and Mr Wilson, and curate Evan Pilkington. Evan was one of the
founders of the Pioneer club
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Jun-2011
I was christened at Holy
trinity we also had our church parades with the scouts every
month on the road outside church.
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 19-Jun-2011
I was also christened at Holy
Trinity, and confirmed-the actual confirmation sevice was at St Georges,
Bishop of London officiating-Geoffrey Fisher, soon to be Archbishop of
Canterbury. I also went to Sunday School, often at the parish hall.
Once, for mucking about, I was made to sit in the girls class!
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Jun-2011
I went to Sunday school at Lady Marg. rd junior school.
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by Chris (Member 10220786) on 19-Jun-2011
I went to Sunday School in the
Parish Hall, Lady Margaret Road, just round the corner from the Town
Hall; the teacher was MISS HAYDEN. I still have an Easter Card from
her........ must be at least 60 years ago. Chris xx
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by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Jun-2011
I still have a few birthday cards from Sunday school like you Chris its 60yrs ago.
- Re: Southall Local History Society
by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Jun-2011
I also have my road safety certs. from Lady Marg. road juniors.
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